WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from March 26, 2020

Listener comments!
	9:00am David (in London): Hello Trouble, and fellow Troubled Ones.
	9:01am Dances with Moomins: Good Morning to the troubled. There is hope, there is Trouble!
	9:01am sphere: good morning. thanks for being here Trouble. :)
	9:01am mariano: Hey Trouble and everyone.
	9:01am TDK60: Good morning DJ T! Are you in the studio? They made you a Skeleton? Wow!
	9:01am duke: Here comes Trouble
	9:02am p20: Hi Trouble! Thanks for all the great music. Are we going to hear from Dorothy Ashby today?
	9:02am John from Florham park: Morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:02am Irene Trudel: Goor morning Trouble and all listeners. Glad you're here for us!
	9:03am Snoochienucci: morning all
	9:03am Julien à Montréal: Bonjour Trouble, bonjour/hi fellow amis troublés (or "inquiets" or "préoccupés".
	9:03am John from Florham park: @DIL anything for the president to do today:)
	9:03am melinda: Morning everyone!
	9:03am Handy Haversack: Hi, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	9:03am John from Florham park: @Melinda morning
	9:04am ranjit: Good morning!
	9:04am p20: this is great! very pretty and very strange at the same time
	9:04am waters7: hey! good morning, trouble!
	9:06am mariano: Peut-être "dérangés", Julien? ;)
	9:06am Trouble: good morning thursday's homebound people! I am not one of the skeleton staff, I am one of the dj'ing from home peeps. we are all in this together even though we are working far flung
	9:06am David (in London): @John President - You have a conference call with the head of the World Health Organisaiton later. They wish to record a short interview, so your Churchillian authority can be used to encourage people around the world.
	9:07am Julien à Montréal: @mariano: "dérangés" sounds about right. Thx!
	9:07am John from Florham park: @DIL thank you oh wonderful chief of staff
	9:08am TDK60: Oh, bonjour Trouble from home. Glad you're able to DJ from there.
	9:09am John from Florham park: @Trouble you are on the air that is all that matters
	9:09am Trouble: in case you have some time on your hands: www.rollingstone.com...
	9:09am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and shut-in listeners. The station should have a noble Latin motto, like E Pluribus Woofum or some such mission statement.
	9:09am Crudbringer: aayyy trouble glad you're broad casting live & die-wrecked, morning ever buddy.
	9:09am mariano: Our ears can't tell where you're sending the music from, Trouble.
	9:11am David (in London): Trouble, how the Hell am I going to get ANY work done after looking at a link like that!
	9:11am sphere: The whole remote setup seems to be working well.
	9:12am Trouble: I could never have done this without the fantastic help of my musician husband. thanks andy!!
	9:12am VT Knit Girl: so happy to be working from home so I can enjoy your show. Thanks for being here.
	9:12am p20: @Trouble: I picked up Keith Richards book. I didn't read the whole thing, but the parts I read were surprisingly good. "Life" is a pretty good title too (I joked that he could have stolen a title from the inimitable Georges Perec ... "Life: A User's Manual" ... with a different sense of "user" of course)
	9:13am ?: Trouble thank you for turning it from confinement to cozy
	9:14am Dances with Moomins: Bonjour Andy!
	9:14am steveo: neat, thanks to Trouble & Andy, & good morning everyone
	9:15am p20: .... and if anyone needs a long, involved book to distract them during this time, you could do worse than that Perec - one of my all time favorite books, maybe #1.
	9:15am David (in London): P20 - Your Perec OuLiPo joke there is giving mariano's earlier hair / cat one some serious challenge. Hats off to you!
	9:16am Aaron Working In Newark: Good morning trouble
	9:17am John from Florham park: Thanks Andy for getting ione if my favorite DJs on the air
	9:17am Julien à Montréal: I had no idea Agnès jaoui was also a singer. This show is always full of surprises.
	9:18am mariano: Oh I see, David: throw me under the bus for some Johnny-Come-Lately ;) Seriously though, happy to concede to any Perec reference.
	9:18am Handy Haversack: Yeah, @p20: that's a good one!
	9:19am allanToronto: @p20. Hats off to you for reading Georges Perec's: Life A User's Manual.
	9:20am Kevlicki: Hi Trouble, Thank you for providing this essential service to us listeners!
	9:20am p20: @HH, @allanToronto: what's your favorite novel (or one of your favorites?)
	9:21am David (in London): mariano - I said 'serious challenge'. I think you are still reigning champion. And don't forget, as Confucius once said, 'Only by being tested by good opponents will your true comedy strength be properly understood'.
	9:22am mariano: Fair enough, David :)
	9:24am p20: @mariano: I come in peace! And not really such a johnny-come-lately, I've been listening to this station for 35 years and commenting on and off for a long time too. I change nicknames a lot :)
	9:24am Shagalov: Still Good Morning Trouble <3
	9:25am allanToronto: @p20. Weirdly, because it's so commonplace, Melville's Moby Dick remains one of my fave books. The whole world is in it. Plus, in its way, it goes well beyond what Greil Marcus termed "the old weird America". There are many others of course.
	9:26am David (in London): p20 - No, he didn't mean that. Earlier on I proclaimed a gag mariano had made as Gag the Day', and he was digging at me for seeming to recant on that. It's was a gag about a gag, nothing more.
	9:26am Trouble: lots of innovative switches in the art and music world: joe's pub is streaming archived shows: publictheater.org...
	9:26am thedunkel: GBV "I shoot myself with Rock n Roll" GBV
	9:26am p20: @p20: sure, I get it
	9:27am johnk77: @trouble enjoying the selections of music thanks for posting memoir list i would add all the rage by ian mclagan
	9:27am p20: I have to stand up and jump around when GBV comes on....
	9:27am p20: @thedunkel: I can never tell if it's "shoot myself " or "shit myself". It really sounds like the latter...
	9:27am mariano: @p20 - No offense intended, sorry for dragooning you into my quip!
	9:28am TDK60: Good news from Kosovo --its leader was ousted for refusing to take the pandemic seriously. I wish that could happen in my country...
	9:28am p20: @mariano: No offense taken!
	9:28am Erella: Hello there Trouble. With the world so topsy turvy, I am so glad you're there (and that I am here to enjoy it)
	9:28am thedunkel: @p20 I cant tell when I shouting the lyrics :)
	9:28am Threemoons: Goood morning from the home office here in Astoria
	9:28am p20: @TDK60: YES!
	9:28am David (in London): Hey Threemoons.
	9:29am Phil in Charlotte: Greetings everyone!
	9:29am ken krimstein: la wally
	9:29am Snoochienucci: this is an amazing set
	9:29am p20: @allanInToronto: Me too! I love Moby Dick and I tell everyone to read it, despite what they might think. What a fantastic book! Definitely one of my top 5
	9:29am Trouble: good morning erella! glad to hear from you, and glad to hear from everyone here today!
	9:29am ken krimstein: amelie
	9:29am Handy Haversack: @p20, wow, it varies by the day! Infinite Jest? Ulysses? Perdido Street Station? Middlemarch? Moby-Dick? At the Mountains of Madness? All of Jack Vance? Brothers Karamazov? I'm better when I can break it down into tranches. Favorite nineteenth-century English mystery! Favorite queer space opera! Favorite China Mieville of specific years! Favorite Jack Vance Planet of Adventure installment!
	9:29am John from Florham park: Hey guys try to be good to each other please, I know we are all on edge
	9:30am ken krimstein: on cello
	9:30am allanToronto: Trouble, I never knew this existed as an instrumental' I only know the uber beautiful vocal aria.
	9:30am ken krimstein: c'est triste et belle a la meme chose, vivant (with apologies to madame szabo and the entire freshman french class...)
	9:31am p20: @HH: Thanks!! Now I have to read Perdido Street Station.... and At the Mountains of Madness... and I guess all of Jack Vance :)
	9:31am woj: present and listening! thanks to you and andy for making it happen, trouble!
	9:32am Handy Haversack: (My inability to easily access diacritics and non-ASCII characters on this stupid laptop is a real frustration.)
	9:32am p20: @HH: I usually do a Google search for the foreign word I need, and copy/paste
	9:32am Handy Haversack: (@p20: The Kraken often vies with PSS for my favorite China Mieville, which means vying with it for favorite novel du moment aussi.)
	9:33am Trouble: @allantoronto: it's on the soundtrack to Diva, one of the best soundtracks evah
	9:33am johnk77: for more on old weird usa melville's the confidence man
	9:34am David (in London): Handy, I'm still very fond of The City and the City.
	9:34am P-90: Good morning, DJ Trouble. Primo choices.
	9:35am ParUbi: Having a most excellent birthday here in Pittsburgh. I'm getting a budgerigar!
	9:35am Handy Haversack: Me, too, David! I am already feeling bad about all the books I didn't mention. I am pretty sure the James Branch Cabell section of the shelf is mad at me.
	9:35am allanToronto: J.G. Ballard's HIGHRISE might be a timely read.As with all his stuff, society unravels...it opens with a great scene of this guy roasting a dog out on the balcony of his swanky modern apartment in the sky. No one goes outside anymore....O_O
	9:35am Handy Haversack: ParUbi!!!!! Happy birthday, friend!
	9:36am listener james from westwood: ::waves toward coat closet::
	9:36am John from Florham park: The birds are going nuts today @Parubi morning
	9:36am TheoC in Sharon CT: Love your play list Trouble!
	9:36am David (in London): Recently, I loved Jeff Vandermeer's Southern Reach trilogy.
	9:37am James in ATL: Thank you so much for this live show! WFMU is my lifeline at this point. So terrific to hear your voice.
	9:38am mariano: Happy birthday ParUbi! It's Colleen's birthday too, we have the makings for one hell of a party. I vote for piñatas.
	9:38am jmr3: @David (in London) - I really liked the City and the City. Can you remind me the author's name? Can you recommend anything else by him?
	9:39am John from Florham park: Have a great one parubi
	9:39am p20: @HH: totally impossible to pick just one (or 10), I know! As for me, let me just name-drop Walser, Sebald, Sorokin, and Jesse Ball.
	9:39am allanToronto: DIVA sdtrk....wow...guess I have heard that version of La Wally, because I've seen that film at least twice...like a hundred years ago
	9:40am Crudbringer: Regarding Cabell, I left my old copy of _Jurgen_ in the little-library nearby... that ol' boy and his staff...
	9:40am TDK60: I need to read more. Reading Cider With Rosie by Laurie Lee now.
	9:41am Trouble: please spread this link to any artists or arts organizations affected by shutdowns: artscovid.org
	9:41am ParUbi: Thanks guys, and hello! :D Love Sebald and Walser, p20, so I guess I have to check out those others. What about Thomas Bernhard? I am also partial to Kafka and Lispector. What was the question?
	9:41am David (in London): @jmr3 - The author is China Miéville. 'Perdido Street Station' always emerges as a firm favourite in his catalogue.
	9:41am p20: @HH: Pynchon used to be on the list but he has slipped a bit. And when I was younger I devoured everything by P.K. Dick and Stanislaw Lem. But I don't really read much sci-fi any more.
	9:41am Handy Haversack: @DIL: I was much more taken with the first book than the other two. Someone recommended New York 2140, which is a great and long read and book that shows political work of and by people (though KSG's characterization is maybe an acquired taste!). Also recent: Charlie Jane Anders's _The City in the Middle of the Night_ similarly shows the work of new and difficult politics. And _Amatka_, by Karin Tidbeck tries to glimpse through the singularity to see what might be on the other side of Revolution.
	9:42am p20: "Leaving the Atocha Station" by Ben Lerner was great.
	9:42am waters7: I like the art today. will look up prunella Clough
	9:42am steveo: any yogis out there just hear lokah samitah sukino? probably just me (ex-yogi)
	9:43am p20: @HH: These are fantastic suggestions, thanks!! How do you find time to read all these books when you are listening to WFMU and commenting here all day long?
	9:43am ParUbi: My wife got me an excellent "literature in translation" series from our local foundation, "City of Asylum"-- the authors are largely refugees. I'm getting a book a month for half a year.
	9:43am Stanley: Hi Trouble. Thanks for the links to the list of music memoirs. Funny, I do have a bit of time at the moment. To the list I would add the memoirs of Tracey Thorn.
	9:43am David (in London): Oh lord, I would jump off a cliff if it would bring Sebald back. I have deliberately never read The Emigrants so that there will always be some Sebald in the world left for me to read. Hopefully I can time it right and read it just before I cark it.
	9:44am TDK60: Handy, I read Kim Stanley Robinson's New York 2140. It's ok. I like some of his others better.
	9:45am Irene Trudel: Sounding great this morning, Trouble! So glad you were able to work out the technical issues to broadcast from home.
	9:45am David (in London): Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman too. That book still hurts / delights my head like Sun Ra's 'Astro Black'.
	9:45am Crudbringer: Man, SAM would like this one.
	9:45am Trouble: ri audubon society is streaming a live cam: peregrine falcon laying eggs. their eggs are sort of dark rust in color: so cool. goggle it
	9:45am Threemoons: Love the book suggestions!
	9:46am Trouble: thanks Irene!!!
	9:46am p20: @D(iL): I read "The Rings of Saturn" in English, then I got a copy in German, which I am slowly making my way through. My German is not that great - I can make my way through Kafka, but Sebald is harder. Like you, I'm comforted by the fact that I'll probably never finish it.
	9:46am allanToronto: p20.Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain, if you really have the time and the ambition, and if you like the German writers...and if you're grappling with the meaning of life.
	9:47am sphere: If you want deep SF, try the Book of the Sun tetralogy by Gene Wolfe. Guaranteed to knock your socks off, especially if you like Vance.
	9:48am Crudbringer: that serious _tribal robot_ shit
	9:48am Itzall Gön'gett-Bettresuhnn: Good morning Trouble, good morning pajama-people!
	9:48am ParUbi: I only revisted Sebald recently because of that great series of episodes on FMU's "the Blind Tourist." What a trip that was! Now I'm hooked again.
	9:48am p20: @allanToronto: Yes, I must read that one. I used to read a lot more books before the Internet took over my life. I've got to find my way back to that head-space.
	9:48am Handy Haversack: @p20: well, I used to have my 40-min. commute by foot and subway in which to read ... Oh! And _Famous Men Who Never Lived _ by K. Chess and _This Is How You Lose the Time War_ by Amal el-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. Need to get reading worked into the current situation. I have been very slowly finishing _Split Tooth_, by Tanya Tagaq.
	9:48am Crudbringer: you guys haven't even mentioned _Lizard Music_.
	9:49am allanToronto: Uncle Bill Burroughs' queer sci-fi western trilogy: Cities of the Red Night, The Western Lands, The Place of Dead Roads...ok..gonna drop out and LISTEN now
	9:49am Phillippe Bastille: Good morning Trouble and friends
	9:49am briania: Aw, Haystack. Thank you.
	9:50am Handy Haversack: @sphere: good call! Those books (and the next series, too) are wild. Also _Fifth Head of Cerberus_ and _Seven American Nights_ by Wolfe -- very good.
	9:50am βrian: Sheltering in place means Fresh Roasted Coffee. And Trouble. Good Morning.
	9:51am p20: I'm going to print out a list of all the books mentioned here today and do my best to read them.
	9:52am ami ad: Hello D.J. Hello all.Brooklyn calling.Hope all are doing well.Thanks for the tunes.Shalom.
	9:52am mariano: Man, what a great reading list y'all are putting together. Definitely saving.
	9:53am John from Florham park: I just finished up listening to the wheel of time series and it is 14 books and a cast of thousands
	9:53am Erella: Oh my goodness! This ESG cover is either the worst thing ever or the best!
	9:53am Handy Haversack: @TDK60: NY2140 had special resonance for me since I am already a human-powered boater in the Hudson/Passaic estuary (and live in a place that will surely be underwater in 50 years ...)
	9:53am allanToronto: Maybe I'll try to tear off another 100 pages of tennis and depression (aka Infinite Jest) while there's downtime.
	9:54am David (in London): Samuel Beckett's 'Watt' is another brain-bender that I have always loved.
	9:54am Little Mexican Girl: Why not both?
	9:54am wizard frog: yea yea
	9:54am TDK60: Of course, Handy. I just thought some of the personal scenarios were a bit unrealistic.
	9:55am Handy Haversack: @sphere: Have you read Jack Vance's autobiography, _This Is Me, Jack Vance! (Or More Properly, "This Is I")_? Very fun!
	9:55am paul: Does anyone here like flannery o connor?
	9:55am David (in London): And Mark Danielewski's 'The House of Leaves' which is definitely my favourite of this century. Proper freaked me out when I read it.
	9:55am p20: I've been trying to read "The Man Without Qualities" for almost 20 years. Just keep putting it down, forgetting about it, and going back to the beginning. I know the opening pretty well by now. This is not a recommendation.
	9:56am David (in London): I look forward to the P20 Book Review Club muchly!
	9:56am p20: @D(iL) I have some weird resepect for Danielewki, but that book was just 100% impenetrable for me. (Not trying to start an argument! You are a stronger reader than I am)
	9:56am allanToronto: I wanna testify for Flannery O....yeah, Robert Musil...haven't gone there yet
	9:56am ottovonbqe: I tried to read man without qualities once and couldn't do it.
	9:57am Handy Haversack: Ha, @p20 (9:55): ME TOO! @TDK: I hear you. Sometimes I think KSR is running a very sophisticated narrative experiment with how his characters interact. And sometimes I'm just like, dude, have you ever had a conversation?
	9:57am mariano: Been thinking of rereading Invisible Man for a while now. I've only read it once but it knocked my socks off.
	9:57am ottovonbqe: I am working on a novel called The Man who read The Man Without Qualities. But I am thinking of just changing the name to The Man with Coronavirus.
	9:58am allanToronto: ONe of the best American novels there is, Invisible Man
	9:58am p20: @ottovonbque: Good one! I like to joke about "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For The Man Without Qualities"
	9:59am David (in London): p20 - No man, no need to qualify that. It's a dark, difficult and freaky read to be sure. I think it just rather suited my headspace at that time.
	9:59am TDK60: Handy, I think KSR's Mars Trilogy is fab.
	10:00am John from Florham park: Damn guys my TBR pile is going to be never ending:)
	10:00am johnk77: for pynchon on old & weird try mason & dixon for pkdick on post-apocalypse dr.bloodmoney, or how we got along after the bomb
	10:00am HRM Patti Ann I: Good morning, Trouble. Brand new listener to WFMU. Love your program.
	10:00am Handy Haversack: Agreed, @TDK60! I love Antarctica, too, and really think Aurora is a masterwork.
	10:01am βrian: The Man Who Mistook His Wife to California.
	10:01am βrian: Les mouettes !
	10:01am DJ Guin: @mariano...Ellison or Wells? lol
	10:01am David (in London): We should collate these into a proper Lockdown List.
	10:02am Snoochienucci: bring on the birds!
	10:02am TDK60: Handy, I did read Aurora - gripping. Haven't read Antarctica.
	10:02am P-90: Good birds in the coat closet today.
	10:02am John from Florham park: @Handy listened to aurora very good
	10:02am Irene Trudel: My cats love your birdsong background and come running every time they hear it.
	10:03am Crudbringer: she is consulting her menagerie of birds
	10:03am p20: @D(iL): My addition to the Lockdown List: "The Divers' Game" by Jesse Ball. Or "How To Start A Fire And Why".
	10:04am John from Florham park: @Trouble as long as I cab go out for walks I will be ok
	10:04am Trouble: that's funny, irene!
	10:04am V Priceless: yay Kevin Ayers! Hello!
	10:04am p20: YES KEVIN AYERS! He always makes me smile
	10:04am Handy Haversack: Ah, Scott W. began and ended with Kevin Ayers last night. Excellent. Trouble, definitely loving the songs while nerding out over here!
	10:04am DJ Guin: "HOME?? I have no home. Hunted, despised, living like an animal! The jungle is my home. But I will show the world that I can be its master! I will perfect my own race of people. A race of atomic Supermen which will conquer the world! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
	10:04am John from Florham park: I meant can go for walks
	10:05am David (in London): And then there's always James Ellroy. I absolutely love Ellroy. But it's a little bit like eating an entire chocolate cake: it's delicious but there comes a point when one starts to feel a bit nauseated.
	10:05am Bend Sinister: Funny, started "Planet of Adventure' again yesterday. Jack Vance my favorite author by a mile, one of a kind. www.sf-encyclopedia.com...
	10:05am Roberto: I think Scott kicked off his show last night with this one.
	10:05am PERSONATOR from Highland Park NJ: I loved the new order track I had never heard of it w the alternate singer. Thanks for playing great music I love your show. Your voice w the birds is very calming.
	10:05am Trouble: welcome aboard HRM patti ann I! @handy scott W is probably the biggest kevin ayers fan in residence at fmu
	10:05am p20: @Personator: Actually that was a totally different band
	10:06am mariano: Hey HRM Patti, welcome to the oasis! @DJ Guin: Haha! Wells, of course (j/k). Actually, aside from War of the Worlds when I was a kid, I don't think I've read anything else by him. Interesting guy, probably worth a deep dive. Love the Wood/Lugosi reference too!
	10:07am Handy Haversack: Also: a good book during weird confinements: T. H. White (of OaFK), The Goshawk. Trying to train a hawk using methods 400 years out of date while self-exiling to avoid being hated by his friends for being a pacifist during WWII. @mariano: Wells is def. worth a deep dive. There's a LOT.
	10:07am allanToronto: heard this on Scott's show yesterday...Soft Machine's easy listening side
	10:07am Marcel M: Morning, all
	10:07am p20: @Personator: OOPS, sorry my information was wrong!! Sometimes I wish I could delete comments.
	10:07am mariano: Ooh! Just remembered a Raymond Chandler project I began a couple of years back without getting very far. Can definitely see hunkering down with some Chandler.
	10:08am Handy Haversack: @Bend Sinister: There's no one like him.
	10:08am johnk77: from the summary of dr. bloodmoney: the scattered survivors take comfort from a disc jockey endlessly circling the globe in a broken-down satellite
	10:08am listener 126464: off topic- just got the green door kids mp3's from boomkat
	10:09am Handy Haversack: @mariano: Fitting the context: "Trouble Is My Business"!
	10:09am DJ Guin: @mariano...funny how no one is mentioning King's The Stand. circumstances are eerily similar. Captain Trips may have come to pass.
	10:09am Crei6hton: Morning
	10:09am squinchy: I just finished Ice by Anna Kavan. That is a disturbing book to read during these times. Really during any times...
	10:10am David (in London): @Handy - That first paragraph in Bend Sinister with the puddle is just frackin' amazing.
	10:10am Handy Haversack: @squinchy: YES! Excellent book! Agreed, DIL!
	10:10am Trouble: very cool that the green kids music is for sale, i got it years ago off a much loved english blog that is of course now defunkt
	10:11am John from Florham park: @DJ guin tge last thing I really want to read right now is the stand
	10:11am johnk77: kassav rocked the party live
	10:11am Trouble: two of my fave used book stores are selling via instagram in these closed doors times; check out brickbatphilly and papernautilus
	10:12am Bend Sinister: @ Handy Haversack Still regret not signing up for Vance Integral Edition (VIE) at the time - too expensive alas
	10:12am mariano: Yes, that allusion was 100% intentional, Handy. [clears throat] @DJG: The Stand has come up at least once in conversation recently. Actually, there's an English writer, Jim Crace, that I really got into in the early 2000s. Kind of lost track of him, but apparently he has one set in a post-Apocalyptic feudal USA, might be just the thing in these times.
	10:13am allanToronto: James Ellroy's work is my designated TP replacement, for when the going gets rough.
	10:13am mariano: I mean The Stand has come up in conversation with friends, not on the Accu far as I can remember.
	10:13am Handy Haversack: @Bend Sinister: Agreed. Though I am a real sucker for the DAW yellow-spine pbk. editions.
	10:13am Phillippe Bastille: @Mariano I've been on a bit of a Chandler run myself lately.
	10:14am John from Florham park: @Trouble there is a place in the short hills mall called indigos they are based out of Canada but the customer service is better then Barnes and noble
	10:14am allanToronto: Maybe Art of the Deal first, then James Ellroy...
	10:15am Handy Haversack: @Phillippe (hi!) and mariano: I got the Library of America editions of Chandler from a friend who worked there. Stories in one, novels in the other. Excellent stuff.
	10:15am listener 126464: found green door kids at boomkat limited
	10:16am Jack: I just had to comment; you've mentioned 3 of my favorite authors: HG Wells, Kim Stanley Robinson & China Mieville. Just finished "Red Moon" & "The Year of Rice & Salt", got in the mail yesterday "The 3 Californias" & "Icehenge". "Perdido Street Station" "The Scar" & "The Iron Council"= my favorite trilogy, also Mieville turned me on to "Gormanghast"
	10:16am David (in London): Handy, just reading that opening to BS made me completely rethink how to write and what could be achieved with the words you selected. Amazing.
	10:16am DJ Guin: @mariano...there are tons of dystopic post-apocalyptic novels out there..but, thinking about it..why nuke what you desire? a world population decimated by germs..those that survive could seize absolute power, if they wish
	10:16am David (in London): Hi Phillippe.
	10:16am Phil in Charlotte: Great song, and record (darker than blue)
	10:17am David (in London): Shit, we haven't even mentioned Cormac yet. Blood Meridian. Yikes! He always gives me the fear.
	10:18am Handy Haversack: (@Bend Sinister: Kate and I both just said to each other, "No, your response is nuncupatory"!) @DIL: I blew away my students once long ago by just reciting the first page of Lolita when they came into the room. Our transition from poetry to prose writing was chap. 1.
	10:18am Bend Sinister: @ Handy Haversack Have practically everything in Dutch. For mysterious reasons Vance was widely published and popular in Holland in the 70s and 80s. "Emphyrio" and "The Face" my favorites.
	10:18am Handy Haversack: @Jack! Gormenghast! How did we leave it off! Gah! The best!
	10:18am allanToronto: Yeah Jack, if you can get into Peake's Gormenghast, it's well worth it. Bring along a dictionary. It is THE highest form of the fantasy novel (s). It's....fantastic.
	10:18am squinchy: @DIL, my friends and I used to wax poetic at length about who we would cast as various characters for a film version of blood Meridian
	10:19am Trouble: @john from florham park: words bookstore in maplewood is a pretty great indie bookstore. lots of instore author events.
	10:19am Jack: "The Road" is the bleakest novel I'll never re-read (and I love post-apocalyptic fiction) "Blood Meridian" I couldn't read more than a few dozen pages and then...THE HORROR!
	10:20am Handy Haversack: @BS: My good friend told me he took down Emphyrio the other day for some comfort reading -- and realized he had never read it! New Vance! The best gift of all!
	10:20am David (in London): @squinchy - Good work. Any firm decisions?
	10:20am ken krimstein: nice groove from mr. burell
	10:21am Jack: @allan - I re-read the Gormanghast trilogy on occasion. I love Mervyn Peake.
	10:21am upstate sean: hey trouble, everyone
	10:21am sphere: @ Handy - Never read the Vance autobiography so I guess I have something to do! BTW, fantasy authors that are worth your while (ie great writers) are Patricia McKillip, Robert Holdstock, R.A. MacAvoy, and Paul Park.
	10:21am squinchy: I feel like at the time Christopher Walken was in there somewhere. Maybe, later, Michael Shannon. But to be honest these discussions were always late at night and sodden with booze and other things.
	10:22am Phillippe Bastille: Yeah, I think Chandler gets overlooked due to the genre but that man can paint some word art: “Man has always been a venal animal. The growth of populations, the huge costs of war, the incessant pressure of confiscatory taxation – all these things make him more and more venal. The average man is tired and scared, and a tired, scared man can’t afford ideals. He has to buy food for his family. In our time we have seen a shocking decline in both public and private morals. You can’t expect quality from people whose lives are a subjection to a lack of quality. You can’t have quality with mass production. You don’t want it because it lasts too long. So you substitute styling, which is a commercial swindle intended to produce artificial obsolescence. Mass production couldn’t sell its goods next year unless it made what is sold this year look unfashionable a year from now. We have the whitest kitchens and the most shining bathrooms in the world. But in the lovely white kitchen the average [person] can’t produce a meal fit to eat, and the lovely shining bathroom is mostly a receptacle for deodorants, laxatives, sleeping pills, and the products of that confidence racket called the cosmetic industry. We make the finest packages in the world, Mr Marlowe. The stuff inside is mostly junk.”
	10:22am mariano: @DJ Guin: You're probably right, though I was thinking that a post-apocalyptic novel might have the same strangely comforting effect as listening to sad music when you're down. Nah... Chandler sounds like the ticket. Plus some of the recommendations above.
	10:22am p20: Vladimir Sorokin "Ice Trilogy"
	10:23am Handy Haversack: Chandler is exquisite. So good.
	10:23am steveo: BJT RULEZZ
	10:23am Handy Haversack: You really started something, @p20!
	10:24am mariano: Baroque jazz? What next, bebop cowboys?
	10:24am David (in London): @Phillippe - Agreed. Chandler was a master with words. I think it's in The Lady in the Lake, Marlowe is being kept waiting deliberately in a reception area and Chandler chucks in a line about how "the minutes tip-toed past with a finger to their lips". Incredible imagery.
	10:24am sphere: Nice to see there are other SF/F readers listening to WFMU.
	10:24am TDK60: My fave writer is probably Ursula K. LeGuin.
	10:24am p20: @HH: Trouble posted the original book list, I just added a little Perec reference...
	10:25am allanToronto: Blood Meridian evinces the utter low evil savagery of 'the Indian Wars', the meridian being the line of longitude that served as the no-go boundary between Indian territory and "civilization" at that time. Every North American should experience the revulsion Cormac's novel sets off...and never forget it when thinking of the indigenous experience here in the 'new world'. Manifest Destiny. Yikes!
	10:25am Jack: "The Earth Abides" (by George R. Stewart) is considered by many to be one of the best post-apocalyptic tales.
	10:25am sphere: I am a huge Ursula K. Le Guin fan.
	10:25am Handy Haversack: @sphere: I get a lot of new books to pick up from reviews here: strangehorizons.com
	10:25am northcaroline: Good tunes as usual, Trouble. Thanks for working from your closet!
	10:26am steveo: rockin the harpsichord
	10:26am p20: re: Le Guin: Loved her "Wizard of Earthsea" as a kid. And now I love her translation of the Tao Te Ching.
	10:26am Phillippe Bastille: ...and there's “It seemed like a nice neighborhood to have bad habits in.” and “From 30 feet away she looked like a lot of class. From 10 feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from 30 feet away.”
	10:26am Handy Haversack: Station Eleven, from a few years back, Emily St. John Mandel, is a very good post-plague novel.
	10:27am βrian: Breakfast Nachos are in the oven. (I feel like were teaching the little one how to make junkfood out of perfectly wholesome ingredients.)
	10:28am David (in London): Handy, I loved Station 11, too. I bought copies for more than a few friends.
	10:28am allanToronto: @Phillipe. "Nice from far. Far from nice."
	10:28am listener 126464: that's natcho breakfast
	10:28am Jack: Also: "A Canticle for Leibowitz" by Walter M. Miller Jr. post atomic war. Everybody! Thank you for the book recommendations. And thanks again Trouble!
	10:29am mariano: Yeah, loved Le Guin's Earthsea trilogy, need to read more of her. Same with CS Lewis's Space Trilogy. Been intrigued ever since I was a kid when I found them on my grandparents' shelf.
	10:29am zivilars: love this harpsichord jazz!
	10:29am Phillippe Bastille: @allan love that!
	10:30am David (in London): @allanToronto - There's always a point in every Cormac novel where my stomach starts to tigthen up in dread. Often it doesn't even come to anything, but he's a master of getting you to that edge, even if he never actually pushes you off it.
	10:30am Handy Haversack: Also strong recommendation: The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson. And Space Opera by Cathereynne Valente. A love song to David Bowie, Eurovision, and the possibility that the species might actually save itself.
	10:31am steveo: @kenzo -- sets should be first class objects! (and clickystarrable!)
	10:31am David (in London): Peter Ackroyd's Hawksmoor, too. Very London-centric, but a real time-slip masterpiece.
	10:31am Erella: The Au Pairs!! Thank you I think I will dig up the Raincoats after this show. This is all perfect for me today. Thank you
	10:32am melinda: @mariano I read Invisible Man in high school because we had to pick a book off the shelf and write an essay after reading it, and Invisible Man looked like a short read. It turned out someone had put the Invisible Man cover on a different paperback for some reason, it wasn't a short read but yeah, knocked my socks off too.
	10:33am sue from brooklyn:
	10:33am Phillippe Bastille: I've always liked Thomas McGuane's early stuff, like "Bushwhacked Piano" and "92 in the Shade".
	10:34am sue from brooklyn: no emoji? beating heart!!
	10:34am Jay Goges: Trouble your show today is AAA+ <3
	10:36am Trouble: merci@jay goges!
	10:36am P-90: For what it’s worth, I recommend Cory Doctorow’s “Radicalized”, a quartet of four short stories set in near futures that that run from very dystopian to not do much. It’s a new book and very up-to-the minute in its point of view. And he writes well.
	10:36am TomDash: Hey Trouble. Thanks for doing the show remote. Love this Au Pairs song! Who’s doing the board op this morning?
	10:36am Handy Haversack: We haven't even TOUCHED on short stories. We really go through short story collections around here. @DIL: Have you read Jo Walton's Small Change trilogy? "What if England went fascist in WWII?": Farthing, Ha'penny, Half a Crown. Excellent.
	10:37am Vanessa bikes: We are dancing in the kitchen to your show...
	10:37am Micheal: Mask of the Red Death by Poe is apropos these days. Imagining it reset at Mar A Lago is entertaining. Stay safe all. Thank you for sounds of Spring, Trouble!
	10:37am P-90: *from very dystopian to not SO much...
	10:38am βrian: My habib'ti loved Station 11, though she was sure she wouldn't.
	10:38am Snoochienucci: this ones hitting me nice
	10:38am Trouble: big thanks to Matt Warwick superstar board op this morning!!! ( thanks tomdash for reminding me...)
	10:39am steveo: more harpsichord!
	10:39am Slaboch: Great to hear you Trouble!
	10:39am Jack: The first book I ever received as a child was a HG Wells omnibus: 2 novels and a bunch of short stories. "War of the Worlds" and "The Time Machine", but it's the short stories that have stuck with me almost 50 years later.
	10:39am allanToronto: @D in London. Cormac, for North Americans at least, I think, sorta draws you up close and demonstrates that you've fallen OFF the ledge already, quite a while back. He pulls back the curtain (almost cruelly) so that you see real violence at the heart of this house of cards that we live in. It's hard and merciless and you're all alone really...it's the desert, and there's you and the those buzzards giving you the eye. That whore wants your boots. The rotgut's almost gone. Yer outta smokes. The wind is calling your name.
	10:41am Handy Haversack: I recently edited a scholarly but very readable reassessment of Wells. THAT was a deep dive. Made me read some of his non-SF for the first time. _Tono Bungay_!
	10:42am ken krimstein: nice acoustic vibe here...mccord
	10:43am Crudbringer: You got your garbage in my trouble! You got your trouble in my garbage!
	10:43am Handy Haversack: Ugh, I have an 11 AM meeting that will tear me away from you fine people, and I don't know that I will be back before 12. Trouble, thank you so much. Thanks for being there and doing this and letting us all do the rest of this. Excellent show this morning! And thanks, Matt!
	10:43am mariano: @David: Yes, LOVE Hawksmoor. First Ackroyd I read. Perfect setting too: was staying in London with a friend, found it on his shelf, so I was able to go to some of the churches. Take care, @Handy!
	10:44am TomDash: Thanks Matt Warwick...and all the skeleton crew at 43! Great show Trouble
	10:44am DJ Guin: @Handy,,,just discovered that Wells had the Beets! Nice to know his zaftig girth had its drawbacks
	10:44am allanToronto: I wonder how H.G. Wells plays in America. He's quite a lefty really. The Time Machine is a warning about social disenfranchisement/haves vs have-nots, and the monsters that will come back to eat a society once that sets in....maybe.
	10:45am David (in London): @allanToronto - That's a good summation. I remember that scene in Outer Darkness where he lands the boat and sits around the fire with a group of unsavoury characters. The unspoken implication is that they are going to murder him, or maybe even eat him. I remember my heart starting to beat faster. They don't of course, but it was masterful writing.
	10:45am P-90: It just seems a bit of a symptom of the underlying thinking (or lack of) that has made the present situation so difficult, when I see folks identifying with stories, like The Stand, about apocalyptic plagues. This is NOT that, this is the kind of not-apocalyptic pandemic disease event that will continue to occur once every few generations or so. We just don’t seem to have learned that lesson very well, or learned to prepare and plan well for the (actually routine) arrival of these things.
	10:45am David (in London): mariano - Super cool. Do you remember which ones you went to?
	10:46am listener 126464: kevin morby is live tonight with katie crutchfield on her IG
	10:48am DJ Guin: @P-90...President SprayTan sez things will be just ducky by Zombie Jesus Resurrection Day. We have already surpassed the workdwide toll of H1N1 (which lasted 20 months) in a shorter span. THIS is not a FLU. There are no 'cures' for viruses. You either survive or you don't. Antibiotics are over prescribed and just result in newer, resistant strains of Staph, etc.
	10:50am P-90: None of which addresses my point...
	10:50am TDK60: Well, I'm going to take a shower, and plan to also wash my hands while doing so. Back soon..
	10:50am Earth Walker: ParUbi. Have Happy Healthy one !
	10:52am allanToronto: Anti-biotics are just that. They are living organisms (bacteria) that destroy other bacteria. A virus is a chemical structure (not really alive), so antibiotics have absolutely NOTHING to do with viruses. This seems to be a huge basic misunderstanding of basic science that many people adhere to.
	10:52am DJ Guin: My point is this going to much, much worse before people take it seriously. 1918 was a flu; 500 million contracted. 50 millions succumbed. Even with 'modern' medicine, we have become arrogant and reckless.
	10:53am mariano: Short stories? Alice Munro, Chekhov, Flannery O'Connor, William Trevor, and my go-to comfort reading, Borges. @David: Christ Church Spittalfields, St George's Bloomsbury, and St Mary Woolnoth. It was the pre-Google Maps 90s and I have no sense of direction, so it's a miracle I made it to those three. On another trip I saw St Alphege's but didn't go in (staying with the same friend who'd since moved close to Greenwich).
	10:54am P-90: Yes, when I hear folks bringing up antibiotics in the context of a viral epidemic, that’s exactly the lack of focus on the realities of these events that disturbs me.
	10:54am Trouble: surprised no one has mentioned patrick modiano. and also, weird that most of the authors mentioned are male...
	10:56am DJ Guin: @P-90..we are in agreement about that. I cringe when I hear parents give their children antibiotics everytime they fall ill. No matter what the illness.
	10:57am P-90: @Trouble: Good point. Sorry.
	10:57am David (in London): Trouble, then I will chuck in two personal favourites: Daphe Du Maurier and Shirley Jackson.
	10:57am Rich in Bay Ridge: Deerhoof makes things better for a few minutes at least
	10:57am p20: Scanning my bookshelves here - how did I manage to completely forget Roberto Bolaño?
	10:57am Jack: speaking of female authors...I recently read "Oryx and Crake' by Margaret Atwood. Boy, was that depressing! But I recommend it. Talk about dystopian!
	10:57am Bill W: I've been reading the 1951 Anna Seghers novel TRANSIT, basis of last year's Petzold film, about a man stuck in Marseille in 1940. It resonates...
	10:58am Priscilla: Happy song!
	10:58am waters7: Thank you thank you thank you!
	10:59am ratso: This makes me smile!
	10:59am James in ATL: I never get tired of hearing ELO. Always makes me feel better.
	11:00am P-90: duMaurier: great choice. “The Birds” is one of the all-time brilliant apocalypses in modern fiction.
	11:00am DJ Guin: @Jack..the way women started dressing as Handmaidens after the series premiered only goes to show today's celebs are just...well, you know.
	11:01am Carmichael: For later watching: www.youtube.com... And good morning, Trouble and skeletons.
	11:01am David (in London): p20 - Great call. 2666 is an absolute bloody monster.
	11:02am allanToronto: Even physicians prescribe antibiotics for patients with a cold for instance, for a virus, Why? Because the patients insist, and medicine complies for some reason....is it really evil big pharma sell, sell, selling? It has no effect whatsoever on ANY virus, and in addition, it constantly exposes all know bacterial pathogens to the few known antibiotics, allowing them to evolve resistance to them, because bacteria produce a knew generation about every 12 hours, so their time/evolutionary scale is much accelerated compared to that of other organisms on this rock. It's insane really.
	11:03am P-90: Atwood writes very well. And has played well the game of writing science fiction while skirting that label.
	11:04am mndave: @Trouble - Tuning in late but it sounds fantastic, as if you were in the studio. Kudos to Andy and Matt ww!
	11:05am melinda: I've read that antiobiotic use for cattle is a larger problem in terms of increasing the number of antibiotic-resistant strains. Not that over-prescription for humans isn't bad, but that the scale is different.
	11:06am wizard frog: I'm working from home with a tub of ben & jerrys - such is life
	11:06am morphe': David van der Stoke/book folks - I became angry/jealous when I first read Sebald because I was doing texts with images (getting nowhere$)except small magazines in NYC.. I let it go and just enjoyed him... was saddened at the early lost.. A good read: The Hidden Life of Trees - A German Forestiere who talks about the interconnectedness of trees and their environment and their active intelligence and their ability to communicate to trees around them..(rhizome communication networks!!! - fuckin' commies are everywhere!! Even in the soil!!!corrupting the tress!!!!)
	11:06am Reno D: Get Carter! Jonathan Something mentions that film in his hilarious song Had an Ass Like Gold. Cracked me up.
	11:07am Carmichael: I am sheltering in place at work. I'm in government procurement, and this is a high-stress and brain-twisting time for us.
	11:09am wizard frog: Government procurement, couldn't even begin to imagine how that works let alone in a situation like this...
	11:12am mariano: Muriel Spark and Doris Lessing - two more I've been meaning to get into for years after really enjoying some short stories. We should all get an extra life just for reading. @Carmichael - hope you're staying safe, thanks for helping to keep things running.
	11:12am Lewis: Melinda - important to keep bacterial and viral infections separate in your mind. SARS-CoV-2 is a virus and viruses are not living in the way that bacteria are. Viruses are a really weird combination of proteins that use biological cells to reproduce. To stop a virus you need to either break the virus or interrupt is functioning inside of its host cells.
	11:12am -Ken: Morning all!
	11:12am morphe': Allan in Toronto.. Highrise is frightening ... let us hope there are will be no actual food shortages... Have you read Ballard's WHY I WANT TO FUCK Ronald Reagan? A text for our time; Full text attached..Do not know if it is pre or post CRASH: https://spurleditions.com/blog/2017/6/22/ballard-ronald-reagan
	11:13am Lewis: Hi Ken!
	11:15am Trouble: some covid 19 resources : www.cdc.gov... nj.gov... www.nj.gov... www.fhfa.gov...
	11:15am Trouble: from aminatta forna lithub.com...
	11:16am TDK60: I'm back from the shower, drying off. Now I plan to watch the latest speech from the NYC mayor or NY State Govt. I will ignore any press conferences with the national chief executive (as I'm not in a mood to vomit).
	11:16am David (in London): Hello Kenmeister.
	11:17am allanToronto: @Melinda. Yes. Factory-scale animal farming is brutal to animals to the degree that anti-biotics are used extensively to keep them alive. Those cows are chained standing in steel milking pens, on concrete floors that can be hosed cleanf, so under theri own weight their hooves split open and become infected (they have no choice but to stand in faeces all day)...so yadda yadda yadda...this stuff's in yer milk, yer meat, etc.....I know,this is a big downer...but you're right, industrial scale agriculture puts a lot of antibiotics into your food and water
	11:18am morphe': Ballard's WHY I Want.... just re-reading it - forgot it was given out the 1980 convention on Republican letterhead (long live the Situationists!!!). Cannot believe I did not remember this in 2015-2014... The text needs a few name changes y Voila!! a text for our time "... Vaginal intercourse with “Reagan” proved uniformly disappointing, producing orgasm in 2 percent of subjects.
	11:19am meredith: Oh, it's really @trouble today? <3 <3 thank you for some normalcy. I hope everyone is safe. Checking in from Chapel Hill, NC where we are all at home
	11:20am P-90: Guten morgen, Herr Brodkastgruppenfuhrer Ken.
	11:21am Jack: Wow! Who are you people? I literally have "The Complete Stories of JG Ballard" sitting right here in front of me. Well, my cat is sitting on them.
	11:21am Artie: Listening at home in Raleigh NC today. Thanks, Trouble!
	11:22am Trouble: raleigh and chapel hill checking in within minutes of each other: what are the chances? good morning!
	11:22am melinda: @allanToronto I also heard that antibiotics are used routinely to increase growth, not just address infection.
	11:22am tim from Champaign (now washington): Hi Trouble and everybody!
	11:22am P-90: Ballard was always brilliant, and seems more and more relevant all the time, for his ideas AND his aesthetic.
	11:23am βrian: Yeah, and it's not even understood why antibiotics increase growth in livestock. But hey, if it makes money ...
	11:23am tim from Champaign (now washington): Mariano - I cant recommend Doris Lessing’s novels high enough. What are you going to start with?
	11:24am waters7: goin' dark, gurl
	11:24am Mick: Good (late) morning Trouble and all. What a literary chat today - I'll be returning to the archive just to read the book recs. Many thanks!
	11:24am allanToronto: @Melinda. That makes sense, in light of general health of the animals. A NOT SICK pig will grow unimpeded by difficulty into a bigger fleshier beast, a trait that can even be passed on to offspring. Health and growth are related.
	11:25am Trouble: c'mon @ emily: the cello is never dark, always beautiful!
	11:25am TomDash: My dog starting barking at the bells! Lovely piece...reminds me of Arvo Part
	11:25am waters7: maybe I meant deep
	11:25am βrian: We're all trying to do our Pärt.
	11:26am meredith: Cocteau Twins = my mood for the past 30 days
	11:26am meredith: Hey @Artie. Hope Raleigh is doing ok.
	11:27am mariano: @tim FC: Usually when I make a project of a particular writer or school I go chronologically. But Lessing was so prolific that I get a near-panic attack looking at her list of works. Any recommendations?
	11:28am morphe': Melinda/Allan: read about Thalidomide - was given in the 50s-60s as "morning sickness relief" med.. Led to deaths and birth defects - the most common was the hand coming out of the elbow(s)... When banned - it was sold to cattle farms as a growth hormone???? Found it ia a fiction: MY YEAR OF MEAT but true!!! Not the greatest novel but worth the read... = Desperate starving East Village writer(auto-bio part) takes on a paying project regading meat recipes..
	11:30am peter in SEA: Good Morning Trouble and Thursday people. Wow, what a voice this singer has, hadn't heard of him before, once again Trouble & FMU with the new music for me! Grateful.
	11:31am Trouble: start with the golden notebook @ mariano
	11:31am Trouble: hola @peter!
	11:31am peter in SEA: Also, was there a plague-times reading list posted before? Can someone please re-post that list? Obrigado ;-)
	11:32am mariano: Thanks @Trouble!
	11:32am Artie: Greetings, Meredith. My little corner of Raleigh is OK, AFAICT. Quiet/Surreal. Hope you're well. Best to ya.
	11:32am allanToronto: Doris Lessing's Briefing For A Descent Into Hell is a short novel that is quite a mindfuck. Maybe, due to its brevity, it might be a good place to start also.
	11:32am Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Trouble & all!
	11:33am peter in SEA: Bom dia, Trouble! Obrigado for the remote broadcast! Thanks Andy!
	11:34am mariano: Appreciate the recommendation, @allan. @peter - the list is scattered throughout the comments. I'm going to copy and paste the whole thing into a Word doc and extract the book titles.
	11:35am morphe': My Year of Meat..Recollecting - dangerous for me ...My Year of Meat veers fromSouthern use pot roast recipe contests using RC cola or Pepsi to spouse abuse in Japan.... and....
	11:36am allanToronto: Incidentally, (heh) I am really enjoying this show Trouble. I may never get out of this WFMU vortex that I've been sucked into now. Spending a lot of time exploring all of its mutant radio streams....getting tired..was up late listening to small change's set last night....
	11:37am Ken From Hyde Park: Huh ... just received an email form Uber Eats with a promo code to save $120 on my first two orders, provided I spend $150 or more. I wonder if that is worthwhile or not?
	11:37am tim from Champaign (now washington): Mariano - I agree that the Golden Notebook and Briefing for A Descent are great starters. The Good Terrorist is also a good one.
	11:37am David (in London): mariano - Are you going to do that? I was planning on doing it too.
	11:38am TDK60: In the NYC mayor speech I'm listening to he says, on the idea we can all be back together by Easter, he doesn't think so at all!, thinks April will be /worse/ than March in NYC. (Trouble I plan to listen to the rest of your wonderful show via the archive later).
	11:38am Carmichael: People are referencing lots of great reading material, but I have 2 movie recommendations: Bergman's Seventh Seal, and Gilliam's 12 Monkeys. Perfect downer movies for these plague-ridden times.
	11:39am Kevin-san: Barbara!!! <3
	11:39am Hubig Pie: My year of sugar, grease, caffeine and alcohol
	11:39am Julien à Montréal: La dame en noir..
	11:39am Jack: An old blog of post-apocalyptic fiction: thefinchandpea.com...
	11:40am mariano: With the list, you mean, David? Yeah, soon as the show's over. Thanks tim fc, going on the list.
	11:40am Carmichael: Dude, that's my adulthood ...
	11:40am peter in SEA: Thank you @Mariano! For the young ones amongst us: Feed, by MT Anderson ;-)
	11:41am allanToronto: @morphe. One of the guitar players that used to work with Tav Falco in Memphis (Panther Burns) was a Thalidomide baby I think. He was a really manic psycho-billy guitar player, so when I saw him live I was surprised to see that he was holding his pick in a 'flipper'. He made the best of a bad situation. Real bad muthaf***a.
	11:41am UncleMarty: So many novels ... upbeat - Zombie Survival Guide - Max Brooks ( I now have a machete under my bed) Less so: Earth Abides – George R. Stewart ‘Men come and go, but earth abides.’
	11:41am peter in SEA: Love the trilling "r" in so much French chanteuse music!
	11:43am ken krimstein: could be in the masterpiece by lubitsch -- trouble in paradise -- watch it right after this show...
	11:43am listener 126464: beautiful cardinal hanging around the back door here for a few days
	11:44am mariano: Haha! Speaking of Tinker, Tailor...
	11:45am morphe': In the time of Le Peste forget not Camus' THE PLAGUE(heard the film is not so good so stick to the text) also - for visual effect: Bosch y Breugal
	11:45am Stevel: Great show as usual! Thank you, Trouble!!
	11:46am Carmichael: @mariano, did you know that your reference (and John Le Carre's, by extension) is to a very old "skipping song"? I guess Yanks call them hopscotch songs.
	11:46am jdaAndAnoukFromKöln: hello from the home office. good thing: anouk is outside on the balcony laying in the sun…
	11:46am David (in London): @allanToronto - I don't think he was with them the one time I saw them here in London. Top man, though by the sound of it. Ian Dury was another who took his disability and turned it into rock and roll gold.
	11:46am Trouble: thanks @stevel!
	11:48am waters7: Thanks, babe! Until next week.
	11:48am Carmichael: I saw Roger McGuinn perform this solo back in the 90s. Great song!
	11:48am Marcel M: I've somehow never heard this cover.. love this song.
	11:48am allanToronto: @Ken! That sounds like a shit-ton of takeout for 30 simoleons...could be a good thing, provided the delivery is germ-free. Therein lies the unadvertised excitement factor. Take the plunge. G'wan. Heh heh heh
	11:49am steveo: marcel go listen to this whole album!
	11:49am sphere: recommended female authors in SF: C.J. Cherryh, Jo Clayton, Ann Leckie, Nnedi Okorafor, Octavia Butler, Nancy Kress, Martha Wells, Kameron Hurley.
	11:50am allanToronto: @David. Yeah, Ian Dury was unstoppable. He used to teach art in East London somewhere too I think
	11:50am esha: i love mole suit choir, such a pleasure to hear them on the radio, thank u
	11:50am Trouble: @sphere: add N K Jemisin
	11:51am morphe': Sphere : Octvia Butler!!!!!!!
	11:51am TDK60: Oh yeh Sphere, Octavia Butler is great.
	11:51am tw2sheds: Connie Willis
	11:52am mariano: I knew it was something along the lines of a nursery rhyme, Carmichael, though I never knew anything specifically about its origin.
	11:52am morphe': TDK - we might be cousins - the name of our band!!
	11:52am Carmichael: A line from Dury's Body Song that has somehow always stuck with me: The leg, a source of great delight. Distributes weight and governs height.
	11:52am allanToronto: Huh...I have Connie Willis Doomsday Book coming in the mail. Weird.
	11:53am Trouble: great news: Liz Durette just put out a new digital album on bandcamp!!!
	11:53am Jack: Karen Fowler, and don't forget Mary Shelley!
	11:53am David (in London): @allanToronto - He went to the same school as I did, so I used to get teachers' recollections of him. He was one tough bastard by the sound of it. When asked to write a song for the disabled rights community, he delived Spasticus Autisticus - I don't think it was QUITE what they had in mind!
	11:53am morphe': Thanks Trouble and all at FMU on Line University...
	11:53am Trouble: thanks for sitting in this morn. see you next week!
	11:54am listener 126464: Thanks Trouble!
	11:54am βrian: Unpossible! The show is almost over??
	11:54am Julien à Montréal: Merci mille fois Trouble! Thank you!
	11:54am 12539: Thanks for being there, Trouble.
	11:54am jim in the d: @sphere and @trouble, Pat Cadigan for female sf list
	11:54am P-90: Another, very contemporary female SF author is Peng Shepherd, whose recent “The Book of M” is a kind of “plague story”.
	11:55am steveo: Liz Durette is wonderful! Thanks for the stupendous show, Trouble.
	11:55am morphe': Ian Dury doc is amazing.. He got the polio in a public swimming pool never knew that
	11:55am mariano: Thank you Trouble and Skeleton Crew! Great talking with everyone as always, will turn the book recommendations into a list and later on if anyone is interested I can post/send a pdf. Be safe y'all!
	11:55am Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Trouble. Stay safe everyone!
	11:55am esha: also love liz durette. baltimore forever
	11:56am allanToronto: @David. Hah. Yup, I'm pretty sure Dury defied expectations. Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick was one of my fave early videos. And New Boots and Panties remains one of the finest album covers ever run off of a press. I loved that guy. He should still be here. Oh well.
	11:57am sphere: thanks trouble
	11:57am p20: I'm collating all the books and authors mentioned today here: docs.google.com...
	11:57am Handy Haversack: Back just in time to say goodbye. Thanks, Trouble, Matt. L8r, friends!
	11:57am Priscilla: Thanks Trouble!
	11:57am p20: Just getting started filling it out. But it will be completed soon.
	11:57am David (in London): @allanToronto - I second that emotion. Let's raise a glass to him tonight.
	11:57am Marcel M: @Steveo: will do!
	11:58am Phillippe Bastille: Thanks P20 -- I was just on WordPress trying to set something up but the Google doc is better
	11:58am David (in London): Thanks Trouble and all you wonderful groovers.
	11:58am mariano: Thanks p20!
	11:58am P-90: Catherine Asaro is another female SF author worth checking out.
	11:58am Handy Haversack: (Don't let Mark Hurst hear you say that, PB!)
	11:59am P-90: Thanks, DJ Trouble!
	11:59am peter in SEA: Thank you Trouble!
	12:02pm tw2sheds: Just occurred to me, you need a tiny little pen to address a point......TY Trouble

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March 26, 2020: in a minor groove

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	New	Approx. start time
aritomo	the depths of the trasparent something	fearful sunshine filtering through foliage					0:00:00 (Pop-up)
chico mello	achado "achado" by "chico mello"	do la do da voz					0:02:06 (Pop-up)
adventures in stereo	cry your love away	adventures in stereo					0:10:39 (Pop-up)
loving	only she knows "only she knows" by "loving"				Single	*	0:12:14 (Pop-up)
agnes jaoui	sur le pont de l'alm mia	dans mon pays					0:15:12 (Pop-up)
gray	drum mode ( paul mogg version)	anti ny					0:19:31 (Pop-up)
guided by voices	I Am A Scientist	i am a scientisst ep					0:25:29 (Pop-up)
kashmir boots	Tristesses de la Lune						0:27:41 (Pop-up)
Vladimir Cosma &the London Symphony orchestra	la wally ( instrumental)	ost diva					0:28:33 (Pop-up)
the casa loma orchestra with lee wiley	A Hundred Years From Today	art deco v/a					0:31:30 (Pop-up)

marianne	gu "gu" by "marianne"	even a tree can shed tears					0:37:21 (Pop-up)
gyratory system	thermidor "thermidor" by "gyratory system"	barons court turret					0:43:04 (Pop-up)
Kevin Hewick & New Order	haystack	from brussels with love v/a					0:48:29 (Pop-up)
the green door kids	moody (esg cover)						0:52:06 (Pop-up)
guerre froide	ersatz "ersatz" by "guerre froide"	des jeunes gens modernes post punk, cold wave et cuture novo en france 1978-1983 v/a					0:54:36 (Pop-up)
kaysound fashion	don't trust the brains trust	coffee table music v/a					0:57:47 (Pop-up)

kevin ayers	songs for insane times	joy of a toy					1:03:31 (Pop-up)
kassav	soleil "soleil" by "kassav"						1:07:44 (Pop-up)
kassin	digerido "digerido" by "kassin"	relax					1:11:49 (Pop-up)
ken boothe	Ain't No Sunshine "Ain't No Sunshine" by "ken boothe"	Darker than Blue: Soul from Jamdown 1973-1980					1:15:36 (Pop-up)
kenny burell	love is the answer "love is the answer" by "kenny burell"	god bless the child					1:18:18 (Pop-up)
baroque jazz trio	cesar go back home	Baroque Jazz Trio					1:22:13 (Pop-up)
au pairs	its obvious "its obvious" by "au pairs"	Playing With A Different Sex					1:30:10 (Pop-up)
janko nilovic	roses and revolvers	Paris In the Spring v/a					1:35:45 (Pop-up)
kathy mc cord	candle waxing "candle waxing" by "kathy mc cord"	fairytale lady v/a					1:40:20 (Pop-up)
kevin morby	my name ( recorded live at wfmu)						1:43:24 (Pop-up)
ALA.NI	away go "away go" by "ALA.NI"	acca				*	1:45:59 (Pop-up)
gal costa	lost in paradise "lost in paradise" by "gal costa"	gal costa					1:47:50 (Pop-up)
Martial Solal	new york herald tribune	ost breathless					1:51:20 (Pop-up)
blueboy	cloud babies "cloud babies" by "blueboy"	If Wishes Were Horses					1:52:03 (Pop-up)
deerhoof	vivid cheek love song "vivid cheek love song" by "deerhoof"	the runners four					1:57:57 (Pop-up)
elo	Sweet Talkin' Woman "Sweet Talkin' Woman" by "elo"						1:58:10 (Pop-up)

priscilla ermel	cristal de fogo "cristal de fogo" by "priscilla ermel"	origins da luz	music from memory	1986-94		*	2:05:52 (Pop-up)
luiz bueno	expirando a dor "expirando a dor" by "luiz bueno"	uno com o todo					2:13:40 (Pop-up)
helen money	midnight "midnight" by "helen money"	atomic	thrill jockey			*	2:20:25 (Pop-up)
cocteau twins	the itchy glowbo blow	blue bell knoll					2:25:22 (Pop-up)
piry reis	o sol na janela "o sol na janela" by "piry reis"	Outro Tempo (Electronic And Contemporary Music From Brazil 1978-1992)	music from memory			*	2:28:16 (Pop-up)
letta mbulu	welele "welele" by "letta mbulu"	free soul					2:33:11 (Pop-up)

barbara	si la photo est bonne "si la photo est bonne" by "barbara"						2:38:27 (Pop-up)
alberta hunter	soon "soon" by "alberta hunter"						2:41:20 (Pop-up)
mole suit choir	table saw "table saw" by "mole suit choir"	doomsday lamp					2:44:23 (Pop-up)
the byrds	You Ain't Goin Nowhere "You Ain't Goin Nowhere" by "the byrds"	sweet heart of the rodeo					2:46:52 (Pop-up)
big star	try again (movie mix) "try again (movie mix)" by "big star"	nothing can hurt me osst					2:49:22 (Pop-up)
liz durette	angel bells "angel bells" by "liz durette"	delight				*	2:52:57 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:00am David (in London): Hello Trouble, and fellow Troubled Ones.
	9:01am Dances with Moomins: Good Morning to the troubled. There is hope, there is Trouble!
	9:01am sphere: good morning. thanks for being here Trouble. :)
	9:01am mariano: Hey Trouble and everyone.
	9:01am TDK60: Good morning DJ T! Are you in the studio? They made you a Skeleton? Wow!
	9:01am duke: Here comes Trouble
	9:02am p20: Hi Trouble! Thanks for all the great music. Are we going to hear from Dorothy Ashby today?
	9:02am John from Florham park: Morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:02am Irene Trudel: Goor morning Trouble and all listeners. Glad you're here for us!
	9:03am Snoochienucci: morning all
	9:03am Julien à Montréal: Bonjour Trouble, bonjour/hi fellow amis troublés (or "inquiets" or "préoccupés".
	9:03am John from Florham park: @DIL anything for the president to do today:)
	9:03am melinda: Morning everyone!
	9:03am Handy Haversack: Hi, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	9:03am John from Florham park: @Melinda morning
	9:04am ranjit: Good morning!
	9:04am p20: this is great! very pretty and very strange at the same time
	9:04am waters7: hey! good morning, trouble!
	9:06am mariano: Peut-être "dérangés", Julien? ;)
	9:06am Trouble: good morning thursday's homebound people! I am not one of the skeleton staff, I am one of the dj'ing from home peeps. we are all in this together even though we are working far flung
	9:06am David (in London): @John President - You have a conference call with the head of the World Health Organisaiton later. They wish to record a short interview, so your Churchillian authority can be used to encourage people around the world.
	9:07am Julien à Montréal: @mariano: "dérangés" sounds about right. Thx!
	9:07am John from Florham park: @DIL thank you oh wonderful chief of staff
	9:08am TDK60: Oh, bonjour Trouble from home. Glad you're able to DJ from there.
	9:09am John from Florham park: @Trouble you are on the air that is all that matters
	9:09am Trouble: in case you have some time on your hands: www.rollingstone.com...
	9:09am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and shut-in listeners. The station should have a noble Latin motto, like E Pluribus Woofum or some such mission statement.
	9:09am Crudbringer: aayyy trouble glad you're broad casting live & die-wrecked, morning ever buddy.
	9:09am mariano: Our ears can't tell where you're sending the music from, Trouble.
	9:11am David (in London): Trouble, how the Hell am I going to get ANY work done after looking at a link like that!
	9:11am sphere: The whole remote setup seems to be working well.
	9:12am Trouble: I could never have done this without the fantastic help of my musician husband. thanks andy!!
	9:12am VT Knit Girl: so happy to be working from home so I can enjoy your show. Thanks for being here.
	9:12am p20: @Trouble: I picked up Keith Richards book. I didn't read the whole thing, but the parts I read were surprisingly good. "Life" is a pretty good title too (I joked that he could have stolen a title from the inimitable Georges Perec ... "Life: A User's Manual" ... with a different sense of "user" of course)
	9:13am ?: Trouble thank you for turning it from confinement to cozy
	9:14am Dances with Moomins: Bonjour Andy!
	9:14am steveo: neat, thanks to Trouble & Andy, & good morning everyone
	9:15am p20: .... and if anyone needs a long, involved book to distract them during this time, you could do worse than that Perec - one of my all time favorite books, maybe #1.
	9:15am David (in London): P20 - Your Perec OuLiPo joke there is giving mariano's earlier hair / cat one some serious challenge. Hats off to you!
	9:16am Aaron Working In Newark: Good morning trouble
	9:17am John from Florham park: Thanks Andy for getting ione if my favorite DJs on the air
	9:17am Julien à Montréal: I had no idea Agnès jaoui was also a singer. This show is always full of surprises.
	9:18am mariano: Oh I see, David: throw me under the bus for some Johnny-Come-Lately ;) Seriously though, happy to concede to any Perec reference.
	9:18am Handy Haversack: Yeah, @p20: that's a good one!
	9:19am allanToronto: @p20. Hats off to you for reading Georges Perec's: Life A User's Manual.
	9:20am Kevlicki: Hi Trouble, Thank you for providing this essential service to us listeners!
	9:20am p20: @HH, @allanToronto: what's your favorite novel (or one of your favorites?)
	9:21am David (in London): mariano - I said 'serious challenge'. I think you are still reigning champion. And don't forget, as Confucius once said, 'Only by being tested by good opponents will your true comedy strength be properly understood'.
	9:22am mariano: Fair enough, David :)
	9:24am p20: @mariano: I come in peace! And not really such a johnny-come-lately, I've been listening to this station for 35 years and commenting on and off for a long time too. I change nicknames a lot :)
	9:24am Shagalov: Still Good Morning Trouble <3
	9:25am allanToronto: @p20. Weirdly, because it's so commonplace, Melville's Moby Dick remains one of my fave books. The whole world is in it. Plus, in its way, it goes well beyond what Greil Marcus termed "the old weird America". There are many others of course.
	9:26am David (in London): p20 - No, he didn't mean that. Earlier on I proclaimed a gag mariano had made as Gag the Day', and he was digging at me for seeming to recant on that. It's was a gag about a gag, nothing more.
	9:26am Trouble: lots of innovative switches in the art and music world: joe's pub is streaming archived shows: publictheater.org...
	9:26am thedunkel: GBV "I shoot myself with Rock n Roll" GBV
	9:26am p20: @p20: sure, I get it
	9:27am johnk77: @trouble enjoying the selections of music thanks for posting memoir list i would add all the rage by ian mclagan
	9:27am p20: I have to stand up and jump around when GBV comes on....
	9:27am p20: @thedunkel: I can never tell if it's "shoot myself " or "shit myself". It really sounds like the latter...
	9:27am mariano: @p20 - No offense intended, sorry for dragooning you into my quip!
	9:28am TDK60: Good news from Kosovo --its leader was ousted for refusing to take the pandemic seriously. I wish that could happen in my country...
	9:28am p20: @mariano: No offense taken!
	9:28am Erella: Hello there Trouble. With the world so topsy turvy, I am so glad you're there (and that I am here to enjoy it)
	9:28am thedunkel: @p20 I cant tell when I shouting the lyrics :)
	9:28am Threemoons: Goood morning from the home office here in Astoria
	9:28am p20: @TDK60: YES!
	9:28am David (in London): Hey Threemoons.
	9:29am Phil in Charlotte: Greetings everyone!
	9:29am ken krimstein: la wally
	9:29am Snoochienucci: this is an amazing set
	9:29am p20: @allanInToronto: Me too! I love Moby Dick and I tell everyone to read it, despite what they might think. What a fantastic book! Definitely one of my top 5
	9:29am Trouble: good morning erella! glad to hear from you, and glad to hear from everyone here today!
	9:29am ken krimstein: amelie
	9:29am Handy Haversack: @p20, wow, it varies by the day! Infinite Jest? Ulysses? Perdido Street Station? Middlemarch? Moby-Dick? At the Mountains of Madness? All of Jack Vance? Brothers Karamazov? I'm better when I can break it down into tranches. Favorite nineteenth-century English mystery! Favorite queer space opera! Favorite China Mieville of specific years! Favorite Jack Vance Planet of Adventure installment!
	9:29am John from Florham park: Hey guys try to be good to each other please, I know we are all on edge
	9:30am ken krimstein: on cello
	9:30am allanToronto: Trouble, I never knew this existed as an instrumental' I only know the uber beautiful vocal aria.
	9:30am ken krimstein: c'est triste et belle a la meme chose, vivant (with apologies to madame szabo and the entire freshman french class...)
	9:31am p20: @HH: Thanks!! Now I have to read Perdido Street Station.... and At the Mountains of Madness... and I guess all of Jack Vance :)
	9:31am woj: present and listening! thanks to you and andy for making it happen, trouble!
	9:32am Handy Haversack: (My inability to easily access diacritics and non-ASCII characters on this stupid laptop is a real frustration.)
	9:32am p20: @HH: I usually do a Google search for the foreign word I need, and copy/paste
	9:32am Handy Haversack: (@p20: The Kraken often vies with PSS for my favorite China Mieville, which means vying with it for favorite novel du moment aussi.)
	9:33am Trouble: @allantoronto: it's on the soundtrack to Diva, one of the best soundtracks evah
	9:33am johnk77: for more on old weird usa melville's the confidence man
	9:34am David (in London): Handy, I'm still very fond of The City and the City.
	9:34am P-90: Good morning, DJ Trouble. Primo choices.
	9:35am ParUbi: Having a most excellent birthday here in Pittsburgh. I'm getting a budgerigar!
	9:35am Handy Haversack: Me, too, David! I am already feeling bad about all the books I didn't mention. I am pretty sure the James Branch Cabell section of the shelf is mad at me.
	9:35am allanToronto: J.G. Ballard's HIGHRISE might be a timely read.As with all his stuff, society unravels...it opens with a great scene of this guy roasting a dog out on the balcony of his swanky modern apartment in the sky. No one goes outside anymore....O_O
	9:35am Handy Haversack: ParUbi!!!!! Happy birthday, friend!
	9:36am listener james from westwood: ::waves toward coat closet::
	9:36am John from Florham park: The birds are going nuts today @Parubi morning
	9:36am TheoC in Sharon CT: Love your play list Trouble!
	9:36am David (in London): Recently, I loved Jeff Vandermeer's Southern Reach trilogy.
	9:37am James in ATL: Thank you so much for this live show! WFMU is my lifeline at this point. So terrific to hear your voice.
	9:38am mariano: Happy birthday ParUbi! It's Colleen's birthday too, we have the makings for one hell of a party. I vote for piñatas.
	9:38am jmr3: @David (in London) - I really liked the City and the City. Can you remind me the author's name? Can you recommend anything else by him?
	9:39am John from Florham park: Have a great one parubi
	9:39am p20: @HH: totally impossible to pick just one (or 10), I know! As for me, let me just name-drop Walser, Sebald, Sorokin, and Jesse Ball.
	9:39am allanToronto: DIVA sdtrk....wow...guess I have heard that version of La Wally, because I've seen that film at least twice...like a hundred years ago
	9:40am Crudbringer: Regarding Cabell, I left my old copy of _Jurgen_ in the little-library nearby... that ol' boy and his staff...
	9:40am TDK60: I need to read more. Reading Cider With Rosie by Laurie Lee now.
	9:41am Trouble: please spread this link to any artists or arts organizations affected by shutdowns: artscovid.org
	9:41am ParUbi: Thanks guys, and hello! :D Love Sebald and Walser, p20, so I guess I have to check out those others. What about Thomas Bernhard? I am also partial to Kafka and Lispector. What was the question?
	9:41am David (in London): @jmr3 - The author is China Miéville. 'Perdido Street Station' always emerges as a firm favourite in his catalogue.
	9:41am p20: @HH: Pynchon used to be on the list but he has slipped a bit. And when I was younger I devoured everything by P.K. Dick and Stanislaw Lem. But I don't really read much sci-fi any more.
	9:41am Handy Haversack: @DIL: I was much more taken with the first book than the other two. Someone recommended New York 2140, which is a great and long read and book that shows political work of and by people (though KSG's characterization is maybe an acquired taste!). Also recent: Charlie Jane Anders's _The City in the Middle of the Night_ similarly shows the work of new and difficult politics. And _Amatka_, by Karin Tidbeck tries to glimpse through the singularity to see what might be on the other side of Revolution.
	9:42am p20: "Leaving the Atocha Station" by Ben Lerner was great.
	9:42am waters7: I like the art today. will look up prunella Clough
	9:42am steveo: any yogis out there just hear lokah samitah sukino? probably just me (ex-yogi)
	9:43am p20: @HH: These are fantastic suggestions, thanks!! How do you find time to read all these books when you are listening to WFMU and commenting here all day long?
	9:43am ParUbi: My wife got me an excellent "literature in translation" series from our local foundation, "City of Asylum"-- the authors are largely refugees. I'm getting a book a month for half a year.
	9:43am Stanley: Hi Trouble. Thanks for the links to the list of music memoirs. Funny, I do have a bit of time at the moment. To the list I would add the memoirs of Tracey Thorn.
	9:43am David (in London): Oh lord, I would jump off a cliff if it would bring Sebald back. I have deliberately never read The Emigrants so that there will always be some Sebald in the world left for me to read. Hopefully I can time it right and read it just before I cark it.
	9:44am TDK60: Handy, I read Kim Stanley Robinson's New York 2140. It's ok. I like some of his others better.
	9:45am Irene Trudel: Sounding great this morning, Trouble! So glad you were able to work out the technical issues to broadcast from home.
	9:45am David (in London): Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman too. That book still hurts / delights my head like Sun Ra's 'Astro Black'.
	9:45am Crudbringer: Man, SAM would like this one.
	9:45am Trouble: ri audubon society is streaming a live cam: peregrine falcon laying eggs. their eggs are sort of dark rust in color: so cool. goggle it
	9:45am Threemoons: Love the book suggestions!
	9:46am Trouble: thanks Irene!!!
	9:46am p20: @D(iL): I read "The Rings of Saturn" in English, then I got a copy in German, which I am slowly making my way through. My German is not that great - I can make my way through Kafka, but Sebald is harder. Like you, I'm comforted by the fact that I'll probably never finish it.
	9:46am allanToronto: p20.Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain, if you really have the time and the ambition, and if you like the German writers...and if you're grappling with the meaning of life.
	9:47am sphere: If you want deep SF, try the Book of the Sun tetralogy by Gene Wolfe. Guaranteed to knock your socks off, especially if you like Vance.
	9:48am Crudbringer: that serious _tribal robot_ shit
	9:48am Itzall Gön'gett-Bettresuhnn: Good morning Trouble, good morning pajama-people!
	9:48am ParUbi: I only revisted Sebald recently because of that great series of episodes on FMU's "the Blind Tourist." What a trip that was! Now I'm hooked again.
	9:48am p20: @allanToronto: Yes, I must read that one. I used to read a lot more books before the Internet took over my life. I've got to find my way back to that head-space.
	9:48am Handy Haversack: @p20: well, I used to have my 40-min. commute by foot and subway in which to read ... Oh! And _Famous Men Who Never Lived _ by K. Chess and _This Is How You Lose the Time War_ by Amal el-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. Need to get reading worked into the current situation. I have been very slowly finishing _Split Tooth_, by Tanya Tagaq.
	9:48am Crudbringer: you guys haven't even mentioned _Lizard Music_.
	9:49am allanToronto: Uncle Bill Burroughs' queer sci-fi western trilogy: Cities of the Red Night, The Western Lands, The Place of Dead Roads...ok..gonna drop out and LISTEN now
	9:49am Phillippe Bastille: Good morning Trouble and friends
	9:49am briania: Aw, Haystack. Thank you.
	9:50am Handy Haversack: @sphere: good call! Those books (and the next series, too) are wild. Also _Fifth Head of Cerberus_ and _Seven American Nights_ by Wolfe -- very good.
	9:50am βrian: Sheltering in place means Fresh Roasted Coffee. And Trouble. Good Morning.
	9:51am p20: I'm going to print out a list of all the books mentioned here today and do my best to read them.
	9:52am ami ad: Hello D.J. Hello all.Brooklyn calling.Hope all are doing well.Thanks for the tunes.Shalom.
	9:52am mariano: Man, what a great reading list y'all are putting together. Definitely saving.
	9:53am John from Florham park: I just finished up listening to the wheel of time series and it is 14 books and a cast of thousands
	9:53am Erella: Oh my goodness! This ESG cover is either the worst thing ever or the best!
	9:53am Handy Haversack: @TDK60: NY2140 had special resonance for me since I am already a human-powered boater in the Hudson/Passaic estuary (and live in a place that will surely be underwater in 50 years ...)
	9:53am allanToronto: Maybe I'll try to tear off another 100 pages of tennis and depression (aka Infinite Jest) while there's downtime.
	9:54am David (in London): Samuel Beckett's 'Watt' is another brain-bender that I have always loved.
	9:54am Little Mexican Girl: Why not both?
	9:54am wizard frog: yea yea
	9:54am TDK60: Of course, Handy. I just thought some of the personal scenarios were a bit unrealistic.
	9:55am Handy Haversack: @sphere: Have you read Jack Vance's autobiography, _This Is Me, Jack Vance! (Or More Properly, "This Is I")_? Very fun!
	9:55am paul: Does anyone here like flannery o connor?
	9:55am David (in London): And Mark Danielewski's 'The House of Leaves' which is definitely my favourite of this century. Proper freaked me out when I read it.
	9:55am p20: I've been trying to read "The Man Without Qualities" for almost 20 years. Just keep putting it down, forgetting about it, and going back to the beginning. I know the opening pretty well by now. This is not a recommendation.
	9:56am David (in London): I look forward to the P20 Book Review Club muchly!
	9:56am p20: @D(iL) I have some weird resepect for Danielewki, but that book was just 100% impenetrable for me. (Not trying to start an argument! You are a stronger reader than I am)
	9:56am allanToronto: I wanna testify for Flannery O....yeah, Robert Musil...haven't gone there yet
	9:56am ottovonbqe: I tried to read man without qualities once and couldn't do it.
	9:57am Handy Haversack: Ha, @p20 (9:55): ME TOO! @TDK: I hear you. Sometimes I think KSR is running a very sophisticated narrative experiment with how his characters interact. And sometimes I'm just like, dude, have you ever had a conversation?
	9:57am mariano: Been thinking of rereading Invisible Man for a while now. I've only read it once but it knocked my socks off.
	9:57am ottovonbqe: I am working on a novel called The Man who read The Man Without Qualities. But I am thinking of just changing the name to The Man with Coronavirus.
	9:58am allanToronto: ONe of the best American novels there is, Invisible Man
	9:58am p20: @ottovonbque: Good one! I like to joke about "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For The Man Without Qualities"
	9:59am David (in London): p20 - No man, no need to qualify that. It's a dark, difficult and freaky read to be sure. I think it just rather suited my headspace at that time.
	9:59am TDK60: Handy, I think KSR's Mars Trilogy is fab.
	10:00am John from Florham park: Damn guys my TBR pile is going to be never ending:)
	10:00am johnk77: for pynchon on old & weird try mason & dixon for pkdick on post-apocalypse dr.bloodmoney, or how we got along after the bomb
	10:00am HRM Patti Ann I: Good morning, Trouble. Brand new listener to WFMU. Love your program.
	10:00am Handy Haversack: Agreed, @TDK60! I love Antarctica, too, and really think Aurora is a masterwork.
	10:01am βrian: The Man Who Mistook His Wife to California.
	10:01am βrian: Les mouettes !
	10:01am DJ Guin: @mariano...Ellison or Wells? lol
	10:01am David (in London): We should collate these into a proper Lockdown List.
	10:02am Snoochienucci: bring on the birds!
	10:02am TDK60: Handy, I did read Aurora - gripping. Haven't read Antarctica.
	10:02am P-90: Good birds in the coat closet today.
	10:02am John from Florham park: @Handy listened to aurora very good
	10:02am Irene Trudel: My cats love your birdsong background and come running every time they hear it.
	10:03am Crudbringer: she is consulting her menagerie of birds
	10:03am p20: @D(iL): My addition to the Lockdown List: "The Divers' Game" by Jesse Ball. Or "How To Start A Fire And Why".
	10:04am John from Florham park: @Trouble as long as I cab go out for walks I will be ok
	10:04am Trouble: that's funny, irene!
	10:04am V Priceless: yay Kevin Ayers! Hello!
	10:04am p20: YES KEVIN AYERS! He always makes me smile
	10:04am Handy Haversack: Ah, Scott W. began and ended with Kevin Ayers last night. Excellent. Trouble, definitely loving the songs while nerding out over here!
	10:04am DJ Guin: "HOME?? I have no home. Hunted, despised, living like an animal! The jungle is my home. But I will show the world that I can be its master! I will perfect my own race of people. A race of atomic Supermen which will conquer the world! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
	10:04am John from Florham park: I meant can go for walks
	10:05am David (in London): And then there's always James Ellroy. I absolutely love Ellroy. But it's a little bit like eating an entire chocolate cake: it's delicious but there comes a point when one starts to feel a bit nauseated.
	10:05am Bend Sinister: Funny, started "Planet of Adventure' again yesterday. Jack Vance my favorite author by a mile, one of a kind. www.sf-encyclopedia.com...
	10:05am Roberto: I think Scott kicked off his show last night with this one.
	10:05am PERSONATOR from Highland Park NJ: I loved the new order track I had never heard of it w the alternate singer. Thanks for playing great music I love your show. Your voice w the birds is very calming.
	10:05am Trouble: welcome aboard HRM patti ann I! @handy scott W is probably the biggest kevin ayers fan in residence at fmu
	10:05am p20: @Personator: Actually that was a totally different band
	10:06am mariano: Hey HRM Patti, welcome to the oasis! @DJ Guin: Haha! Wells, of course (j/k). Actually, aside from War of the Worlds when I was a kid, I don't think I've read anything else by him. Interesting guy, probably worth a deep dive. Love the Wood/Lugosi reference too!
	10:07am Handy Haversack: Also: a good book during weird confinements: T. H. White (of OaFK), The Goshawk. Trying to train a hawk using methods 400 years out of date while self-exiling to avoid being hated by his friends for being a pacifist during WWII. @mariano: Wells is def. worth a deep dive. There's a LOT.
	10:07am allanToronto: heard this on Scott's show yesterday...Soft Machine's easy listening side
	10:07am Marcel M: Morning, all
	10:07am p20: @Personator: OOPS, sorry my information was wrong!! Sometimes I wish I could delete comments.
	10:07am mariano: Ooh! Just remembered a Raymond Chandler project I began a couple of years back without getting very far. Can definitely see hunkering down with some Chandler.
	10:08am Handy Haversack: @Bend Sinister: There's no one like him.
	10:08am johnk77: from the summary of dr. bloodmoney: the scattered survivors take comfort from a disc jockey endlessly circling the globe in a broken-down satellite
	10:08am listener 126464: off topic- just got the green door kids mp3's from boomkat
	10:09am Handy Haversack: @mariano: Fitting the context: "Trouble Is My Business"!
	10:09am DJ Guin: @mariano...funny how no one is mentioning King's The Stand. circumstances are eerily similar. Captain Trips may have come to pass.
	10:09am Crei6hton: Morning
	10:09am squinchy: I just finished Ice by Anna Kavan. That is a disturbing book to read during these times. Really during any times...
	10:10am David (in London): @Handy - That first paragraph in Bend Sinister with the puddle is just frackin' amazing.
	10:10am Handy Haversack: @squinchy: YES! Excellent book! Agreed, DIL!
	10:10am Trouble: very cool that the green kids music is for sale, i got it years ago off a much loved english blog that is of course now defunkt
	10:11am John from Florham park: @DJ guin tge last thing I really want to read right now is the stand
	10:11am johnk77: kassav rocked the party live
	10:11am Trouble: two of my fave used book stores are selling via instagram in these closed doors times; check out brickbatphilly and papernautilus
	10:12am Bend Sinister: @ Handy Haversack Still regret not signing up for Vance Integral Edition (VIE) at the time - too expensive alas
	10:12am mariano: Yes, that allusion was 100% intentional, Handy. [clears throat] @DJG: The Stand has come up at least once in conversation recently. Actually, there's an English writer, Jim Crace, that I really got into in the early 2000s. Kind of lost track of him, but apparently he has one set in a post-Apocalyptic feudal USA, might be just the thing in these times.
	10:13am allanToronto: James Ellroy's work is my designated TP replacement, for when the going gets rough.
	10:13am mariano: I mean The Stand has come up in conversation with friends, not on the Accu far as I can remember.
	10:13am Handy Haversack: @Bend Sinister: Agreed. Though I am a real sucker for the DAW yellow-spine pbk. editions.
	10:13am Phillippe Bastille: @Mariano I've been on a bit of a Chandler run myself lately.
	10:14am John from Florham park: @Trouble there is a place in the short hills mall called indigos they are based out of Canada but the customer service is better then Barnes and noble
	10:14am allanToronto: Maybe Art of the Deal first, then James Ellroy...
	10:15am Handy Haversack: @Phillippe (hi!) and mariano: I got the Library of America editions of Chandler from a friend who worked there. Stories in one, novels in the other. Excellent stuff.
	10:15am listener 126464: found green door kids at boomkat limited
	10:16am Jack: I just had to comment; you've mentioned 3 of my favorite authors: HG Wells, Kim Stanley Robinson & China Mieville. Just finished "Red Moon" & "The Year of Rice & Salt", got in the mail yesterday "The 3 Californias" & "Icehenge". "Perdido Street Station" "The Scar" & "The Iron Council"= my favorite trilogy, also Mieville turned me on to "Gormanghast"
	10:16am David (in London): Handy, just reading that opening to BS made me completely rethink how to write and what could be achieved with the words you selected. Amazing.
	10:16am DJ Guin: @mariano...there are tons of dystopic post-apocalyptic novels out there..but, thinking about it..why nuke what you desire? a world population decimated by germs..those that survive could seize absolute power, if they wish
	10:16am David (in London): Hi Phillippe.
	10:16am Phil in Charlotte: Great song, and record (darker than blue)
	10:17am David (in London): Shit, we haven't even mentioned Cormac yet. Blood Meridian. Yikes! He always gives me the fear.
	10:18am Handy Haversack: (@Bend Sinister: Kate and I both just said to each other, "No, your response is nuncupatory"!) @DIL: I blew away my students once long ago by just reciting the first page of Lolita when they came into the room. Our transition from poetry to prose writing was chap. 1.
	10:18am Bend Sinister: @ Handy Haversack Have practically everything in Dutch. For mysterious reasons Vance was widely published and popular in Holland in the 70s and 80s. "Emphyrio" and "The Face" my favorites.
	10:18am Handy Haversack: @Jack! Gormenghast! How did we leave it off! Gah! The best!
	10:18am allanToronto: Yeah Jack, if you can get into Peake's Gormenghast, it's well worth it. Bring along a dictionary. It is THE highest form of the fantasy novel (s). It's....fantastic.
	10:18am squinchy: @DIL, my friends and I used to wax poetic at length about who we would cast as various characters for a film version of blood Meridian
	10:19am Trouble: @john from florham park: words bookstore in maplewood is a pretty great indie bookstore. lots of instore author events.
	10:19am Jack: "The Road" is the bleakest novel I'll never re-read (and I love post-apocalyptic fiction) "Blood Meridian" I couldn't read more than a few dozen pages and then...THE HORROR!
	10:20am Handy Haversack: @BS: My good friend told me he took down Emphyrio the other day for some comfort reading -- and realized he had never read it! New Vance! The best gift of all!
	10:20am David (in London): @squinchy - Good work. Any firm decisions?
	10:20am ken krimstein: nice groove from mr. burell
	10:21am Jack: @allan - I re-read the Gormanghast trilogy on occasion. I love Mervyn Peake.
	10:21am upstate sean: hey trouble, everyone
	10:21am sphere: @ Handy - Never read the Vance autobiography so I guess I have something to do! BTW, fantasy authors that are worth your while (ie great writers) are Patricia McKillip, Robert Holdstock, R.A. MacAvoy, and Paul Park.
	10:21am squinchy: I feel like at the time Christopher Walken was in there somewhere. Maybe, later, Michael Shannon. But to be honest these discussions were always late at night and sodden with booze and other things.
	10:22am Phillippe Bastille: Yeah, I think Chandler gets overlooked due to the genre but that man can paint some word art: “Man has always been a venal animal. The growth of populations, the huge costs of war, the incessant pressure of confiscatory taxation – all these things make him more and more venal. The average man is tired and scared, and a tired, scared man can’t afford ideals. He has to buy food for his family. In our time we have seen a shocking decline in both public and private morals. You can’t expect quality from people whose lives are a subjection to a lack of quality. You can’t have quality with mass production. You don’t want it because it lasts too long. So you substitute styling, which is a commercial swindle intended to produce artificial obsolescence. Mass production couldn’t sell its goods next year unless it made what is sold this year look unfashionable a year from now. We have the whitest kitchens and the most shining bathrooms in the world. But in the lovely white kitchen the average [person] can’t produce a meal fit to eat, and the lovely shining bathroom is mostly a receptacle for deodorants, laxatives, sleeping pills, and the products of that confidence racket called the cosmetic industry. We make the finest packages in the world, Mr Marlowe. The stuff inside is mostly junk.”
	10:22am mariano: @DJ Guin: You're probably right, though I was thinking that a post-apocalyptic novel might have the same strangely comforting effect as listening to sad music when you're down. Nah... Chandler sounds like the ticket. Plus some of the recommendations above.
	10:22am p20: Vladimir Sorokin "Ice Trilogy"
	10:23am Handy Haversack: Chandler is exquisite. So good.
	10:23am steveo: BJT RULEZZ
	10:23am Handy Haversack: You really started something, @p20!
	10:24am mariano: Baroque jazz? What next, bebop cowboys?
	10:24am David (in London): @Phillippe - Agreed. Chandler was a master with words. I think it's in The Lady in the Lake, Marlowe is being kept waiting deliberately in a reception area and Chandler chucks in a line about how "the minutes tip-toed past with a finger to their lips". Incredible imagery.
	10:24am sphere: Nice to see there are other SF/F readers listening to WFMU.
	10:24am TDK60: My fave writer is probably Ursula K. LeGuin.
	10:24am p20: @HH: Trouble posted the original book list, I just added a little Perec reference...
	10:25am allanToronto: Blood Meridian evinces the utter low evil savagery of 'the Indian Wars', the meridian being the line of longitude that served as the no-go boundary between Indian territory and "civilization" at that time. Every North American should experience the revulsion Cormac's novel sets off...and never forget it when thinking of the indigenous experience here in the 'new world'. Manifest Destiny. Yikes!
	10:25am Jack: "The Earth Abides" (by George R. Stewart) is considered by many to be one of the best post-apocalyptic tales.
	10:25am sphere: I am a huge Ursula K. Le Guin fan.
	10:25am Handy Haversack: @sphere: I get a lot of new books to pick up from reviews here: strangehorizons.com
	10:25am northcaroline: Good tunes as usual, Trouble. Thanks for working from your closet!
	10:26am steveo: rockin the harpsichord
	10:26am p20: re: Le Guin: Loved her "Wizard of Earthsea" as a kid. And now I love her translation of the Tao Te Ching.
	10:26am Phillippe Bastille: ...and there's “It seemed like a nice neighborhood to have bad habits in.” and “From 30 feet away she looked like a lot of class. From 10 feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from 30 feet away.”
	10:26am Handy Haversack: Station Eleven, from a few years back, Emily St. John Mandel, is a very good post-plague novel.
	10:27am βrian: Breakfast Nachos are in the oven. (I feel like were teaching the little one how to make junkfood out of perfectly wholesome ingredients.)
	10:28am David (in London): Handy, I loved Station 11, too. I bought copies for more than a few friends.
	10:28am allanToronto: @Phillipe. "Nice from far. Far from nice."
	10:28am listener 126464: that's natcho breakfast
	10:28am Jack: Also: "A Canticle for Leibowitz" by Walter M. Miller Jr. post atomic war. Everybody! Thank you for the book recommendations. And thanks again Trouble!
	10:29am mariano: Yeah, loved Le Guin's Earthsea trilogy, need to read more of her. Same with CS Lewis's Space Trilogy. Been intrigued ever since I was a kid when I found them on my grandparents' shelf.
	10:29am zivilars: love this harpsichord jazz!
	10:29am Phillippe Bastille: @allan love that!
	10:30am David (in London): @allanToronto - There's always a point in every Cormac novel where my stomach starts to tigthen up in dread. Often it doesn't even come to anything, but he's a master of getting you to that edge, even if he never actually pushes you off it.
	10:30am Handy Haversack: Also strong recommendation: The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson. And Space Opera by Cathereynne Valente. A love song to David Bowie, Eurovision, and the possibility that the species might actually save itself.
	10:31am steveo: @kenzo -- sets should be first class objects! (and clickystarrable!)
	10:31am David (in London): Peter Ackroyd's Hawksmoor, too. Very London-centric, but a real time-slip masterpiece.
	10:31am Erella: The Au Pairs!! Thank you I think I will dig up the Raincoats after this show. This is all perfect for me today. Thank you
	10:32am melinda: @mariano I read Invisible Man in high school because we had to pick a book off the shelf and write an essay after reading it, and Invisible Man looked like a short read. It turned out someone had put the Invisible Man cover on a different paperback for some reason, it wasn't a short read but yeah, knocked my socks off too.
	10:33am sue from brooklyn:
	10:33am Phillippe Bastille: I've always liked Thomas McGuane's early stuff, like "Bushwhacked Piano" and "92 in the Shade".
	10:34am sue from brooklyn: no emoji? beating heart!!
	10:34am Jay Goges: Trouble your show today is AAA+ <3
	10:36am Trouble: merci@jay goges!
	10:36am P-90: For what it’s worth, I recommend Cory Doctorow’s “Radicalized”, a quartet of four short stories set in near futures that that run from very dystopian to not do much. It’s a new book and very up-to-the minute in its point of view. And he writes well.
	10:36am TomDash: Hey Trouble. Thanks for doing the show remote. Love this Au Pairs song! Who’s doing the board op this morning?
	10:36am Handy Haversack: We haven't even TOUCHED on short stories. We really go through short story collections around here. @DIL: Have you read Jo Walton's Small Change trilogy? "What if England went fascist in WWII?": Farthing, Ha'penny, Half a Crown. Excellent.
	10:37am Vanessa bikes: We are dancing in the kitchen to your show...
	10:37am Micheal: Mask of the Red Death by Poe is apropos these days. Imagining it reset at Mar A Lago is entertaining. Stay safe all. Thank you for sounds of Spring, Trouble!
	10:37am P-90: *from very dystopian to not SO much...
	10:38am βrian: My habib'ti loved Station 11, though she was sure she wouldn't.
	10:38am Snoochienucci: this ones hitting me nice
	10:38am Trouble: big thanks to Matt Warwick superstar board op this morning!!! ( thanks tomdash for reminding me...)
	10:39am steveo: more harpsichord!
	10:39am Slaboch: Great to hear you Trouble!
	10:39am Jack: The first book I ever received as a child was a HG Wells omnibus: 2 novels and a bunch of short stories. "War of the Worlds" and "The Time Machine", but it's the short stories that have stuck with me almost 50 years later.
	10:39am allanToronto: @D in London. Cormac, for North Americans at least, I think, sorta draws you up close and demonstrates that you've fallen OFF the ledge already, quite a while back. He pulls back the curtain (almost cruelly) so that you see real violence at the heart of this house of cards that we live in. It's hard and merciless and you're all alone really...it's the desert, and there's you and the those buzzards giving you the eye. That whore wants your boots. The rotgut's almost gone. Yer outta smokes. The wind is calling your name.
	10:41am Handy Haversack: I recently edited a scholarly but very readable reassessment of Wells. THAT was a deep dive. Made me read some of his non-SF for the first time. _Tono Bungay_!
	10:42am ken krimstein: nice acoustic vibe here...mccord
	10:43am Crudbringer: You got your garbage in my trouble! You got your trouble in my garbage!
	10:43am Handy Haversack: Ugh, I have an 11 AM meeting that will tear me away from you fine people, and I don't know that I will be back before 12. Trouble, thank you so much. Thanks for being there and doing this and letting us all do the rest of this. Excellent show this morning! And thanks, Matt!
	10:43am mariano: @David: Yes, LOVE Hawksmoor. First Ackroyd I read. Perfect setting too: was staying in London with a friend, found it on his shelf, so I was able to go to some of the churches. Take care, @Handy!
	10:44am TomDash: Thanks Matt Warwick...and all the skeleton crew at 43! Great show Trouble
	10:44am DJ Guin: @Handy,,,just discovered that Wells had the Beets! Nice to know his zaftig girth had its drawbacks
	10:44am allanToronto: I wonder how H.G. Wells plays in America. He's quite a lefty really. The Time Machine is a warning about social disenfranchisement/haves vs have-nots, and the monsters that will come back to eat a society once that sets in....maybe.
	10:45am David (in London): @allanToronto - That's a good summation. I remember that scene in Outer Darkness where he lands the boat and sits around the fire with a group of unsavoury characters. The unspoken implication is that they are going to murder him, or maybe even eat him. I remember my heart starting to beat faster. They don't of course, but it was masterful writing.
	10:45am P-90: It just seems a bit of a symptom of the underlying thinking (or lack of) that has made the present situation so difficult, when I see folks identifying with stories, like The Stand, about apocalyptic plagues. This is NOT that, this is the kind of not-apocalyptic pandemic disease event that will continue to occur once every few generations or so. We just don’t seem to have learned that lesson very well, or learned to prepare and plan well for the (actually routine) arrival of these things.
	10:45am David (in London): mariano - Super cool. Do you remember which ones you went to?
	10:46am listener 126464: kevin morby is live tonight with katie crutchfield on her IG
	10:48am DJ Guin: @P-90...President SprayTan sez things will be just ducky by Zombie Jesus Resurrection Day. We have already surpassed the workdwide toll of H1N1 (which lasted 20 months) in a shorter span. THIS is not a FLU. There are no 'cures' for viruses. You either survive or you don't. Antibiotics are over prescribed and just result in newer, resistant strains of Staph, etc.
	10:50am P-90: None of which addresses my point...
	10:50am TDK60: Well, I'm going to take a shower, and plan to also wash my hands while doing so. Back soon..
	10:50am Earth Walker: ParUbi. Have Happy Healthy one !
	10:52am allanToronto: Anti-biotics are just that. They are living organisms (bacteria) that destroy other bacteria. A virus is a chemical structure (not really alive), so antibiotics have absolutely NOTHING to do with viruses. This seems to be a huge basic misunderstanding of basic science that many people adhere to.
	10:52am DJ Guin: My point is this going to much, much worse before people take it seriously. 1918 was a flu; 500 million contracted. 50 millions succumbed. Even with 'modern' medicine, we have become arrogant and reckless.
	10:53am mariano: Short stories? Alice Munro, Chekhov, Flannery O'Connor, William Trevor, and my go-to comfort reading, Borges. @David: Christ Church Spittalfields, St George's Bloomsbury, and St Mary Woolnoth. It was the pre-Google Maps 90s and I have no sense of direction, so it's a miracle I made it to those three. On another trip I saw St Alphege's but didn't go in (staying with the same friend who'd since moved close to Greenwich).
	10:54am P-90: Yes, when I hear folks bringing up antibiotics in the context of a viral epidemic, that’s exactly the lack of focus on the realities of these events that disturbs me.
	10:54am Trouble: surprised no one has mentioned patrick modiano. and also, weird that most of the authors mentioned are male...
	10:56am DJ Guin: @P-90..we are in agreement about that. I cringe when I hear parents give their children antibiotics everytime they fall ill. No matter what the illness.
	10:57am P-90: @Trouble: Good point. Sorry.
	10:57am David (in London): Trouble, then I will chuck in two personal favourites: Daphe Du Maurier and Shirley Jackson.
	10:57am Rich in Bay Ridge: Deerhoof makes things better for a few minutes at least
	10:57am p20: Scanning my bookshelves here - how did I manage to completely forget Roberto Bolaño?
	10:57am Jack: speaking of female authors...I recently read "Oryx and Crake' by Margaret Atwood. Boy, was that depressing! But I recommend it. Talk about dystopian!
	10:57am Bill W: I've been reading the 1951 Anna Seghers novel TRANSIT, basis of last year's Petzold film, about a man stuck in Marseille in 1940. It resonates...
	10:58am Priscilla: Happy song!
	10:58am waters7: Thank you thank you thank you!
	10:59am ratso: This makes me smile!
	10:59am James in ATL: I never get tired of hearing ELO. Always makes me feel better.
	11:00am P-90: duMaurier: great choice. “The Birds” is one of the all-time brilliant apocalypses in modern fiction.
	11:00am DJ Guin: @Jack..the way women started dressing as Handmaidens after the series premiered only goes to show today's celebs are just...well, you know.
	11:01am Carmichael: For later watching: www.youtube.com... And good morning, Trouble and skeletons.
	11:01am David (in London): p20 - Great call. 2666 is an absolute bloody monster.
	11:02am allanToronto: Even physicians prescribe antibiotics for patients with a cold for instance, for a virus, Why? Because the patients insist, and medicine complies for some reason....is it really evil big pharma sell, sell, selling? It has no effect whatsoever on ANY virus, and in addition, it constantly exposes all know bacterial pathogens to the few known antibiotics, allowing them to evolve resistance to them, because bacteria produce a knew generation about every 12 hours, so their time/evolutionary scale is much accelerated compared to that of other organisms on this rock. It's insane really.
	11:03am P-90: Atwood writes very well. And has played well the game of writing science fiction while skirting that label.
	11:04am mndave: @Trouble - Tuning in late but it sounds fantastic, as if you were in the studio. Kudos to Andy and Matt ww!
	11:05am melinda: I've read that antiobiotic use for cattle is a larger problem in terms of increasing the number of antibiotic-resistant strains. Not that over-prescription for humans isn't bad, but that the scale is different.
	11:06am wizard frog: I'm working from home with a tub of ben & jerrys - such is life
	11:06am morphe': David van der Stoke/book folks - I became angry/jealous when I first read Sebald because I was doing texts with images (getting nowhere$)except small magazines in NYC.. I let it go and just enjoyed him... was saddened at the early lost.. A good read: The Hidden Life of Trees - A German Forestiere who talks about the interconnectedness of trees and their environment and their active intelligence and their ability to communicate to trees around them..(rhizome communication networks!!! - fuckin' commies are everywhere!! Even in the soil!!!corrupting the tress!!!!)
	11:06am Reno D: Get Carter! Jonathan Something mentions that film in his hilarious song Had an Ass Like Gold. Cracked me up.
	11:07am Carmichael: I am sheltering in place at work. I'm in government procurement, and this is a high-stress and brain-twisting time for us.
	11:09am wizard frog: Government procurement, couldn't even begin to imagine how that works let alone in a situation like this...
	11:12am mariano: Muriel Spark and Doris Lessing - two more I've been meaning to get into for years after really enjoying some short stories. We should all get an extra life just for reading. @Carmichael - hope you're staying safe, thanks for helping to keep things running.
	11:12am Lewis: Melinda - important to keep bacterial and viral infections separate in your mind. SARS-CoV-2 is a virus and viruses are not living in the way that bacteria are. Viruses are a really weird combination of proteins that use biological cells to reproduce. To stop a virus you need to either break the virus or interrupt is functioning inside of its host cells.
	11:12am -Ken: Morning all!
	11:12am morphe': Allan in Toronto.. Highrise is frightening ... let us hope there are will be no actual food shortages... Have you read Ballard's WHY I WANT TO FUCK Ronald Reagan? A text for our time; Full text attached..Do not know if it is pre or post CRASH: https://spurleditions.com/blog/2017/6/22/ballard-ronald-reagan
	11:13am Lewis: Hi Ken!
	11:15am Trouble: some covid 19 resources : www.cdc.gov... nj.gov... www.nj.gov... www.fhfa.gov...
	11:15am Trouble: from aminatta forna lithub.com...
	11:16am TDK60: I'm back from the shower, drying off. Now I plan to watch the latest speech from the NYC mayor or NY State Govt. I will ignore any press conferences with the national chief executive (as I'm not in a mood to vomit).
	11:16am David (in London): Hello Kenmeister.
	11:17am allanToronto: @Melinda. Yes. Factory-scale animal farming is brutal to animals to the degree that anti-biotics are used extensively to keep them alive. Those cows are chained standing in steel milking pens, on concrete floors that can be hosed cleanf, so under theri own weight their hooves split open and become infected (they have no choice but to stand in faeces all day)...so yadda yadda yadda...this stuff's in yer milk, yer meat, etc.....I know,this is a big downer...but you're right, industrial scale agriculture puts a lot of antibiotics into your food and water
	11:18am morphe': Ballard's WHY I Want.... just re-reading it - forgot it was given out the 1980 convention on Republican letterhead (long live the Situationists!!!). Cannot believe I did not remember this in 2015-2014... The text needs a few name changes y Voila!! a text for our time "... Vaginal intercourse with “Reagan” proved uniformly disappointing, producing orgasm in 2 percent of subjects.
	11:19am meredith: Oh, it's really @trouble today? <3 <3 thank you for some normalcy. I hope everyone is safe. Checking in from Chapel Hill, NC where we are all at home
	11:20am P-90: Guten morgen, Herr Brodkastgruppenfuhrer Ken.
	11:21am Jack: Wow! Who are you people? I literally have "The Complete Stories of JG Ballard" sitting right here in front of me. Well, my cat is sitting on them.
	11:21am Artie: Listening at home in Raleigh NC today. Thanks, Trouble!
	11:22am Trouble: raleigh and chapel hill checking in within minutes of each other: what are the chances? good morning!
	11:22am melinda: @allanToronto I also heard that antibiotics are used routinely to increase growth, not just address infection.
	11:22am tim from Champaign (now washington): Hi Trouble and everybody!
	11:22am P-90: Ballard was always brilliant, and seems more and more relevant all the time, for his ideas AND his aesthetic.
	11:23am βrian: Yeah, and it's not even understood why antibiotics increase growth in livestock. But hey, if it makes money ...
	11:23am tim from Champaign (now washington): Mariano - I cant recommend Doris Lessing’s novels high enough. What are you going to start with?
	11:24am waters7: goin' dark, gurl
	11:24am Mick: Good (late) morning Trouble and all. What a literary chat today - I'll be returning to the archive just to read the book recs. Many thanks!
	11:24am allanToronto: @Melinda. That makes sense, in light of general health of the animals. A NOT SICK pig will grow unimpeded by difficulty into a bigger fleshier beast, a trait that can even be passed on to offspring. Health and growth are related.
	11:25am Trouble: c'mon @ emily: the cello is never dark, always beautiful!
	11:25am TomDash: My dog starting barking at the bells! Lovely piece...reminds me of Arvo Part
	11:25am waters7: maybe I meant deep
	11:25am βrian: We're all trying to do our Pärt.
	11:26am meredith: Cocteau Twins = my mood for the past 30 days
	11:26am meredith: Hey @Artie. Hope Raleigh is doing ok.
	11:27am mariano: @tim FC: Usually when I make a project of a particular writer or school I go chronologically. But Lessing was so prolific that I get a near-panic attack looking at her list of works. Any recommendations?
	11:28am morphe': Melinda/Allan: read about Thalidomide - was given in the 50s-60s as "morning sickness relief" med.. Led to deaths and birth defects - the most common was the hand coming out of the elbow(s)... When banned - it was sold to cattle farms as a growth hormone???? Found it ia a fiction: MY YEAR OF MEAT but true!!! Not the greatest novel but worth the read... = Desperate starving East Village writer(auto-bio part) takes on a paying project regading meat recipes..
	11:30am peter in SEA: Good Morning Trouble and Thursday people. Wow, what a voice this singer has, hadn't heard of him before, once again Trouble & FMU with the new music for me! Grateful.
	11:31am Trouble: start with the golden notebook @ mariano
	11:31am Trouble: hola @peter!
	11:31am peter in SEA: Also, was there a plague-times reading list posted before? Can someone please re-post that list? Obrigado ;-)
	11:32am mariano: Thanks @Trouble!
	11:32am Artie: Greetings, Meredith. My little corner of Raleigh is OK, AFAICT. Quiet/Surreal. Hope you're well. Best to ya.
	11:32am allanToronto: Doris Lessing's Briefing For A Descent Into Hell is a short novel that is quite a mindfuck. Maybe, due to its brevity, it might be a good place to start also.
	11:32am Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Trouble & all!
	11:33am peter in SEA: Bom dia, Trouble! Obrigado for the remote broadcast! Thanks Andy!
	11:34am mariano: Appreciate the recommendation, @allan. @peter - the list is scattered throughout the comments. I'm going to copy and paste the whole thing into a Word doc and extract the book titles.
	11:35am morphe': My Year of Meat..Recollecting - dangerous for me ...My Year of Meat veers fromSouthern use pot roast recipe contests using RC cola or Pepsi to spouse abuse in Japan.... and....
	11:36am allanToronto: Incidentally, (heh) I am really enjoying this show Trouble. I may never get out of this WFMU vortex that I've been sucked into now. Spending a lot of time exploring all of its mutant radio streams....getting tired..was up late listening to small change's set last night....
	11:37am Ken From Hyde Park: Huh ... just received an email form Uber Eats with a promo code to save $120 on my first two orders, provided I spend $150 or more. I wonder if that is worthwhile or not?
	11:37am tim from Champaign (now washington): Mariano - I agree that the Golden Notebook and Briefing for A Descent are great starters. The Good Terrorist is also a good one.
	11:37am David (in London): mariano - Are you going to do that? I was planning on doing it too.
	11:38am TDK60: In the NYC mayor speech I'm listening to he says, on the idea we can all be back together by Easter, he doesn't think so at all!, thinks April will be /worse/ than March in NYC. (Trouble I plan to listen to the rest of your wonderful show via the archive later).
	11:38am Carmichael: People are referencing lots of great reading material, but I have 2 movie recommendations: Bergman's Seventh Seal, and Gilliam's 12 Monkeys. Perfect downer movies for these plague-ridden times.
	11:39am Kevin-san: Barbara!!! <3
	11:39am Hubig Pie: My year of sugar, grease, caffeine and alcohol
	11:39am Julien à Montréal: La dame en noir..
	11:39am Jack: An old blog of post-apocalyptic fiction: thefinchandpea.com...
	11:40am mariano: With the list, you mean, David? Yeah, soon as the show's over. Thanks tim fc, going on the list.
	11:40am Carmichael: Dude, that's my adulthood ...
	11:40am peter in SEA: Thank you @Mariano! For the young ones amongst us: Feed, by MT Anderson ;-)
	11:41am allanToronto: @morphe. One of the guitar players that used to work with Tav Falco in Memphis (Panther Burns) was a Thalidomide baby I think. He was a really manic psycho-billy guitar player, so when I saw him live I was surprised to see that he was holding his pick in a 'flipper'. He made the best of a bad situation. Real bad muthaf***a.
	11:41am UncleMarty: So many novels ... upbeat - Zombie Survival Guide - Max Brooks ( I now have a machete under my bed) Less so: Earth Abides – George R. Stewart ‘Men come and go, but earth abides.’
	11:41am peter in SEA: Love the trilling "r" in so much French chanteuse music!
	11:43am ken krimstein: could be in the masterpiece by lubitsch -- trouble in paradise -- watch it right after this show...
	11:43am listener 126464: beautiful cardinal hanging around the back door here for a few days
	11:44am mariano: Haha! Speaking of Tinker, Tailor...
	11:45am morphe': In the time of Le Peste forget not Camus' THE PLAGUE(heard the film is not so good so stick to the text) also - for visual effect: Bosch y Breugal
	11:45am Stevel: Great show as usual! Thank you, Trouble!!
	11:46am Carmichael: @mariano, did you know that your reference (and John Le Carre's, by extension) is to a very old "skipping song"? I guess Yanks call them hopscotch songs.
	11:46am jdaAndAnoukFromKöln: hello from the home office. good thing: anouk is outside on the balcony laying in the sun…
	11:46am David (in London): @allanToronto - I don't think he was with them the one time I saw them here in London. Top man, though by the sound of it. Ian Dury was another who took his disability and turned it into rock and roll gold.
	11:46am Trouble: thanks @stevel!
	11:48am waters7: Thanks, babe! Until next week.
	11:48am Carmichael: I saw Roger McGuinn perform this solo back in the 90s. Great song!
	11:48am Marcel M: I've somehow never heard this cover.. love this song.
	11:48am allanToronto: @Ken! That sounds like a shit-ton of takeout for 30 simoleons...could be a good thing, provided the delivery is germ-free. Therein lies the unadvertised excitement factor. Take the plunge. G'wan. Heh heh heh
	11:49am steveo: marcel go listen to this whole album!
	11:49am sphere: recommended female authors in SF: C.J. Cherryh, Jo Clayton, Ann Leckie, Nnedi Okorafor, Octavia Butler, Nancy Kress, Martha Wells, Kameron Hurley.
	11:50am allanToronto: @David. Yeah, Ian Dury was unstoppable. He used to teach art in East London somewhere too I think
	11:50am esha: i love mole suit choir, such a pleasure to hear them on the radio, thank u
	11:50am Trouble: @sphere: add N K Jemisin
	11:51am morphe': Sphere : Octvia Butler!!!!!!!
	11:51am TDK60: Oh yeh Sphere, Octavia Butler is great.
	11:51am tw2sheds: Connie Willis
	11:52am mariano: I knew it was something along the lines of a nursery rhyme, Carmichael, though I never knew anything specifically about its origin.
	11:52am morphe': TDK - we might be cousins - the name of our band!!
	11:52am Carmichael: A line from Dury's Body Song that has somehow always stuck with me: The leg, a source of great delight. Distributes weight and governs height.
	11:52am allanToronto: Huh...I have Connie Willis Doomsday Book coming in the mail. Weird.
	11:53am Trouble: great news: Liz Durette just put out a new digital album on bandcamp!!!
	11:53am Jack: Karen Fowler, and don't forget Mary Shelley!
	11:53am David (in London): @allanToronto - He went to the same school as I did, so I used to get teachers' recollections of him. He was one tough bastard by the sound of it. When asked to write a song for the disabled rights community, he delived Spasticus Autisticus - I don't think it was QUITE what they had in mind!
	11:53am morphe': Thanks Trouble and all at FMU on Line University...
	11:53am Trouble: thanks for sitting in this morn. see you next week!
	11:54am listener 126464: Thanks Trouble!
	11:54am βrian: Unpossible! The show is almost over??
	11:54am Julien à Montréal: Merci mille fois Trouble! Thank you!
	11:54am 12539: Thanks for being there, Trouble.
	11:54am jim in the d: @sphere and @trouble, Pat Cadigan for female sf list
	11:54am P-90: Another, very contemporary female SF author is Peng Shepherd, whose recent “The Book of M” is a kind of “plague story”.
	11:55am steveo: Liz Durette is wonderful! Thanks for the stupendous show, Trouble.
	11:55am morphe': Ian Dury doc is amazing.. He got the polio in a public swimming pool never knew that
	11:55am mariano: Thank you Trouble and Skeleton Crew! Great talking with everyone as always, will turn the book recommendations into a list and later on if anyone is interested I can post/send a pdf. Be safe y'all!
	11:55am Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Trouble. Stay safe everyone!
	11:55am esha: also love liz durette. baltimore forever
	11:56am allanToronto: @David. Hah. Yup, I'm pretty sure Dury defied expectations. Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick was one of my fave early videos. And New Boots and Panties remains one of the finest album covers ever run off of a press. I loved that guy. He should still be here. Oh well.
	11:57am sphere: thanks trouble
	11:57am p20: I'm collating all the books and authors mentioned today here: docs.google.com...
	11:57am Handy Haversack: Back just in time to say goodbye. Thanks, Trouble, Matt. L8r, friends!
	11:57am Priscilla: Thanks Trouble!
	11:57am p20: Just getting started filling it out. But it will be completed soon.
	11:57am David (in London): @allanToronto - I second that emotion. Let's raise a glass to him tonight.
	11:57am Marcel M: @Steveo: will do!
	11:58am Phillippe Bastille: Thanks P20 -- I was just on WordPress trying to set something up but the Google doc is better
	11:58am David (in London): Thanks Trouble and all you wonderful groovers.
	11:58am mariano: Thanks p20!
	11:58am P-90: Catherine Asaro is another female SF author worth checking out.
	11:58am Handy Haversack: (Don't let Mark Hurst hear you say that, PB!)
	11:59am P-90: Thanks, DJ Trouble!
	11:59am peter in SEA: Thank you Trouble!
	12:02pm tw2sheds: Just occurred to me, you need a tiny little pen to address a point......TY Trouble

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from March 26, 2020

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