WFMU: Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from April 11, 2018

Listener comments!
	10:01pm hyde: hi
	10:02pm Funky16Corners: Hey Hyde!
	10:02pm coelacanth∅: howdy
	10:03pm Funky16Corners: Hey C!
	10:04pm Parq: Baby baby baby...
	10:04pm Parq: Baby baby baby...
	10:05pm Funky16Corners: Parq!
	10:05pm Parq: Baby b[ ]aby..
	10:07pm hyde: good sounds
	10:07pm Funky16Corners: Thanks!
	10:15pm hyde: my fave Byrds song!
	10:15pm Funky16Corners: Mine too!
	10:18pm geezerette: Larry! Parq! Hyde! Byrds! :D
	10:18pm Funky16Corners: Hey Geezerette!
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: my favorite byrds song must be their version of you ain't goin' nowhere. also the soundtrack version of the ballad of easy rider.
	10:23pm geezerette: grab a sand witch at the psyce deli!
	10:24pm northguineahills: I just finished my Byrds section Wednesday. Sorry Larry, texting the missus, gonna see my friends' bands play curious sounds in a wee bit. If I don't get back. Cheers y OOOs! tak tak!
	10:25pm still b/p: I regard 65 as an interesting year — Brit invasion well underway and hair and fashions and attitudes already shifted some, but rrrreally turning corner and swinging wider in freakyness in 65, winding up for even fuller blast/blossoming/boogie-ing/ counterculture bounce-bash to come.
	10:25pm Funky16Corners: Hey NGH!
	10:25pm northguineahills: (I have a crap ton of Byrds, but lack this LP).
	10:26pm hyde: ah, this set
	10:26pm Funky16Corners: I did an episode of my Iron Leg podcast about the period IK call the "sweet spot" early 65 to early 67 where things were really meshing together stylistically. I'll have to duplicate it here some time
	10:30pm northguineahills: ahem, sweetheart of the radio! :)
	10:30pm geezerette: It is an incredibly cohesive period. Lots of SF/LA cross pollination.
	10:31pm coelacanth∅: (i guess the st version of ballad of easy rider is not the byrds but just Roger McGuinn) ...i'm not much of a byrds fan in general but there is a lot i really like; it's just that i can't stand most of the radio stuff and the Dylan covers (except you ain't goin' nowhere)
	10:32pm geezerette: haha! good one, NGH.
	10:32pm Parq: "Feel A Whole Lot Better" figures wonderfully in the denouement of the book "The Commitments", which is very different than the epilogue of the movie.
	10:32pm Parq: Hya, Geezie! I'm on KP, but trying to follow along a teeny bit.
	10:32pm hyde: i should go to bed but...white light teaser...
	10:33pm northguineahills: Now I'm off to see my friends' noises. Thanks Larry and Woofmooers!
	10:33pm Funky16Corners: Nite NGH!
	10:34pm hyde: farewell, ngh!
	10:35pm geezerette: Howdy,Parq! Dawdle awhile,Hyde. Happy noises,NGH!
	10:36pm hyde: @geez am dawdlin'!
	10:37pm rw: Good evening!
	10:37pm Funky16Corners: Hey RW!
	10:37pm geezerette: ! :)
	10:37pm hyde: the Gosdin stuff is my Gene Clark blind spot
	10:38pm rw: Hey Larry! Here's your chance to change coelacant's mind about the Byrds. Don't blow it.
	10:38pm Funky16Corners: You don't like it?!?
	10:39pm rw: I do! Looking forward to the entire show. I don't think coel's the biggest fan though.
	10:39pm Funky16Corners: I meant Hyde
	10:42pm hyde: @Funky16Corners it's not that i don't like it, it's that i don't know it
	10:42pm rw: Oh, sorry. I don't know this stuff (Gosdin Bros) either. Good to hear it. Thanks. I'll shut up now and just listen!
	10:42pm Funky16Corners: Oh OK. Whew...This is one of my favorite albums ever.
	10:44pm coelacanth∅: i like everything played so far, except one i'm "kinda okay with"! ...i actually heard a bunch of byrds at some point last year that made me realise i need to explore some more...but i know i don't want to hear all the Dylan version hits or anything that uses that formula.
	10:44pm geezerette: Hi,Coel! Had to scroll back. I'm a sucker for this sound. I have a huge blind spot for Carpenters though. These things are mysterious,taste.
	10:44pm Funky16Corners: You could miss all the Dylan covers and still have an amazing catalog.
	10:45pm coelacanth∅: ...i really like "i found you". heard that one before, somewhere.
	10:46pm hyde: haha. "White Light" i think is one of the underrated records of the 70's, which is why i thought you were teasing that
	10:46pm geezerette: David Hemmings?!
	10:46pm rw: Larry: Okay, I guess I can't keep my mouth shut. That comp you were talking about (LA Nuggets). I'd been eyeing it but it's kind of pricey. I know what you're going to say but I'm going to ask anyway. It's worth the dough?
	10:47pm geezerette: From"Blow-Up?
	10:48pm Funky16Corners: Well, LA 65-68 is a huge deal for me, and they really cover it very thoroughly. You get stuff from all the big names, Byrds, Love etc, but also lots of amazing obscurities. I have a bunch of the original singles, but it was worth picking up anyway.
	10:48pm Funky16Corners: @Geezerette - The very same!
	10:48pm Funky16Corners: I'll explain the Gene Clark/Byrds connection at the break
	10:50pm hyde: must sleep. good night!
	10:51pm Funky16Corners: Nite Hyde!
	10:51pm coelacanth∅: Larry @10.44 that's what i'm considering. - although... i once worked for someone who would get into something and play it over and over all day every day for weeks or months and sweetheart of the rodeo and another full-on country album got that treatment and i didn't like it in the beginning and my dislike only increased. (as opposed to when he got into Patsy Cline or the ink spots)
	10:52pm geezerette: 'Night,Hyde!
	10:52pm Funky16Corners: I was heavy into Sweetheart when I was getting into Gram Parsons. Oddly enough I haven't listened to it in a long time. My fave late Byrds lp is Dr Byrds and Mr Hyde with Clarence White.
	10:52pm coelacanth∅: this is great!
	10:52pm coelacanth∅: gnight hyde
	10:53pm Funky16Corners: Bernie Leadon (future Eagle) on banjo
	10:53pm geezerette: Right?
	10:54pm still b/p: It is great...portions sounded like a pickin’ version of A Taste Of Honey.
	10:55pm geezerette: Great version of a great song. :)
	10:56pm Funky16Corners: Indeed
	10:56pm coelacanth∅: yeah he bombarded me with Gram Parsons and the flying burrito brothers too. i hated it! sorry! ...i don't hate i now... or at least not all of it. i really don't know, but my openness to "country" music is very different than it was in the '90s.
	10:58pm Parq: Okay, I admit it. I can never hear "Don't Let Me Down" without thinking of that viral video from years ago with the guy singing it with his two year old son. Hey, that kid's a teenager now; let that sink in.
	10:59pm geezerette: These are all great singin' & drivin' songs. Unless "rush" hour.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: (...and as i eluded to, i love "you ain't goin' nowhere" from that album)
	11:03pm Funky16Corners: A lot of that stuff is really country rock, or country-inflected rock music. If you're deep into "real" country, a lot of it sounds thin and undercooked. If you take the time to dig into that specific sound, there's a lot of good stuff
	11:05pm Dean: Almost played some Booker Ervin earlier this evening. Opted instead for Manuel Mengis (trumpet, but featuring alto and tenor sax, too).
	11:06pm doctorjazz: Missed the country rock, here for the jazz (catch up in the archives, looks like great sets). Booker, Mingus' main man! Hey Larry and folks!
	11:06pm Funky16Corners: He's one of my faves. I was turned on to him by an older jazzbo/hippie guy I used to work with who raved about him. I quickly fell in love with his sound.
	11:07pm Dean: Come to think of it, played some J.D. Souther just a couple nights ago. He's, I suppose, easy to hate L.A. rock.
	11:09pm Funky16Corners: Some day I'm going to hit the record store and buy up as much of that 1972-1980 LA singer songwriter stuff and deep dive into it. While there is sure to be lots of cocaine induced excess, I expect that the quality of the people involved means that there's some great music, too.
	11:12pm coelacanth∅: Larry (sorry i'm not on top of the comments!) my tastes in country are pretty specific. i love Hank Williams, but my favorite HW songs by far are his starker songs; and demos of just him w guitar. some songs ("mansion on the hill,ie) are good songs - just ruined by inane steel git fills. other songs are pretty stupid but are redeemed by his stellar singing. ...i like Roy Acuff; i like Slim Whitman sometimes! i'm thoroughly repulsed by hank jr. and nearly every country "giant" i've heard who's been active during my lifetime.
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: country rock - i like some. i'm not sure where the lines are.
	11:13pm geezerette: Loving this.
	11:13pm Funky16Corners: I love Hank, Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Bobby Bare, most of the late 50s into early 70s stuff. I also love old, old country blues stuff too.
	11:13pm Funky16Corners: Thanks Geezerette!
	11:14pm Dean: Well, there are the Eagles and everybody else. I myself can't bear those guys, yet I enjoy Souther (likely because he is not an Eagle). I love Linda, enjoy Andrew Gold, etc. Never quite caught on to the Byrds, though, but I enjoy Parsons. I definitely appreciate the pop aspect of the L.A. sound, the fact that it is not country. My experience with country music is narrow: I love Larry Hosford, sorry he died. But even he is pop.
	11:15pm coelacanth∅: big country blues fan here. and i like Merle and the very little i know of Buck.
	11:15pm Funky16Corners: I find most of the stuff I like right away, is "unpure" i.e. people messing around and mashing up styles.
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: it's so easy for the lines to be blurry,after all.
	11:17pm Dean: Aaron Copland? Classical? Country? Pop? Who knows?!
	11:18pm Funky16Corners: The early 20th century classical guys like Stravinsky, Copland, Milhaud, Gershwin, all style-mashers
	11:18pm Dean: (In fact, Copland's early piano work is rather difficult.)
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: i like a few early eagles songs. even the doobies were considered country rock at first. that stuff's pretty good. -is JJ Cale considered country? i really like "really?"... really.
	11:18pm geezerette: Dean do you know Wendy Waldman? Andrew Gold was a friend of hers and appeared on her early albums. He was great. I love his albums.
	11:19pm doctorjazz: Like the old time country guys, the bluegrass guys, Honkey Tonk, and some modern stuff too (depends on who; don't know tons of it, but some, but the best stuff is generally the best stuff, whatever genre to me. Hey, I love a great Polka...)
	11:20pm Dean: Waldman definitely rings a bell, but why? I don't recognize her album covers, but I'm sure I encountered her stuff in the '70s.
	11:22pm Dean: (By the way, geezerette, my buddy Ray named the English teacher you believe you two shared, but I don't remember it!)
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: yeah, dr j i never saw polka coming!(Thank you Stashu) but yeah not all of it. i only know one Andrew Gold song, and it's not country at all, if i remember correctly.
	11:24pm Funky16Corners: He was on the pop/rock side of things. He was also the son of Marni Nixon, the singer who dubbed in Natalie Wood's vocals in West Side Story
	11:24pm Dean: "Lonely Boy," no doubt. Pure pop. But he was long connected to Linda R., and did some great country-ish stuff on, e.g., the Prisoner in Disguise album (a Souther song), which also featured Neil Young, Dolly Parton...maybe the best version of Dolly's "I Will Always Love You."
	11:25pm coelacanth∅: really...with Dolly singing or Linda?
	11:25pm Funky16Corners: He was also in a band called Bryndle with Wendy Waldman, Karla Bonoff and Kenny Edwards
	11:26pm geezerette: Doc, true,it's all music! Gold made a wonderful album of Beatles covers too. Very sweet.
	11:27pm doctorjazz: Hey Geez!
	11:27pm Jeff Ash: Have a good evening, Larry. Gotta go!
	11:27pm Funky16Corners: Nite Jeff!
	11:27pm Dean: Criminy, Peter Asher was Linda's producer! Talk about pop! Yes, Bryndle! Great stuff. Just picked up a fairly recent Edwards album, engineered by Warren Dewey, a guy who has both a stereo store and a record store a few short blocks from my place.
	11:29pm coelacanth∅: oh that's a Ronstadt album. i knew it was familiar. i never heard it though. ...but i will.
	11:29pm Dean: (Have to admit that when I first heard the Dillard and Clark above I thought it might have been Goose Creek Symphony!)
	11:31pm Funky16Corners: I've heard that name but am not familiar with their music. What are they like?
	11:32pm geezerette: Howdy Doc! All those people turned up at McCabe's. A lot of them canyon or hill dwellers in those days.
	11:32pm still b/p: No familiarity with Gold’s other work and adventures, but Lonely Boy...oy, so awkward, those lyrics and the sketch of the “boy.” Remained a permanent sour face inducer.
	11:34pm Dean: GCS is pop country out of Kentucky and Arizona. They had a series of albums on Capitol in the '70s. I think they're still plugging along. McCabe's. What a venue. What an amazing venue.
	11:35pm doctorjazz: Ervin is actually pretty "technical", can play fast if he wants to...always thought of him as the mellow foil to Dolphy and some of the other monsters in the Mingus band.
	11:36pm Dean: I've heard at McCabe's: Jonathan Richman, Steve Lacy & Roswell Rudd, and Hamza el Din.
	11:36pm doctorjazz: "mellow" not actually the right word, soulful was more like his role...
	11:37pm doctorjazz: That's a wild trio of different musicians, Dean, cool.
	11:37pm Parq: Talking about that era, and Rondstadt in particular, reminds me of Linda's cover of Tracy Nelson's "Down So Low", which a friend of mine hipped me to in 1979. Me, I distinguish Country Rock (Poco, the Riders) from west coast singer-songwriter (Eagles, America, Jackson Browne). It's the latter I've practically no use for.
	11:37pm Dean: Different nights, of course. The venue. It's all about the venue.
	11:39pm Dean: Yes, love Poco, can't come around to Browne. Gave up and broke down and started acquiring America stuff. Can't shake them, but I suspect it's due in part to George Martin.
	11:40pm Dean: But I love Iain Matthews' take on "These Days."
	11:40pm Funky16Corners: I like early Poco a lot, but I think a bunch of it dovetails with the Buffalo Springfield sound
	11:40pm doctorjazz: Grew up listening to Jackson Brown, Eagles, still have a soft spot for them (though I don't pull the albums out)
	11:43pm doctorjazz: Not many venues in NY area with that eclectic booking policy I know of...maybe the Bottom Line was close when it was around.
	11:45pm Dean: McCabe's is sui generis. It's a guitar store. The walls are lined with string instruments. They resonate during shows.
	11:46pm still b/p: Haven’t understood the hot venom that Eagles stir. Some of the music’s insipid, and their crazy-money reunion antics are scoffworthy, but altogether just a flavor of pop, not all awful, some with medium nostalgia appeal. The ritualistic hammering and burning....’sup with that?
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: i make a distinction between poco, nrps & the ca. stuff, but i can't say i like - or dislike, one realm more than the other. i do like some songs by each of those artists. i like early Browne. (influenced by a group of girls i hung with as a teen) my older brother got into nrps and i followed suit and got a few albums around the age of 14 (?) soft spot, yes, when i hear it; but i never put those records on.
	11:48pm doctorjazz: Just downloaded a file a friend sent me, speaking of West Coast venues-Masada, live at Yoshi's 5/27/00. That was one of the GREAT live bands, hope the sound quality is good (will share if anyone is interested...)
	11:48pm Funky16Corners: I actually like a lot of Eagles music. I can't stand Henley or Frey, two of the biggest egos to roll down the pike. I almost always leave them on the radio when they come on (Long Run stuff excepted)
	11:48pm coelacanth∅: still b/p -it's fashion! like hating the beatles or radiohead or led zeppelin.
	11:49pm Dean: @still b/p: I think you answered your own question... "Some of the music’s insipid, and their crazy-money reunion antics are scoffworthy, but altogether just a flavor of pop, not all awful, some with medium nostalgia appeal." But I remember hearing them in the early '70s and thinking, "This is just cloying crap."
	11:49pm doctorjazz: I agree, Coel...
	11:49pm coelacanth∅: (except i don't mean to place the eagles within 1700 miles to the level of those others!)
	11:50pm Dean: Granted, part of what made it cloying crap was that they weren't Mahavishnu Orchestra, but factor out that and...they're still cloying crap.
	11:50pm doctorjazz: Smthsonian really knew how to come up with catchy titles for albums, dontchathink?
	11:51pm Dean: If only hating Radiohead were fashion, I'd be a happier man.
	11:51pm geezerette: Yeah Dean,haven't been in ages bt it's a gem. Love Elizabeth Cotton. Stellar show Larry! Goodnight all, lovely hanging out.
	11:51pm Funky16Corners: They're like scientific notation
	11:51pm coelacanth∅: hahaha i don't mean that as harsh as it may seem! i'm not on that bandwagon. (just - i name 3 bands that either changed the world or that i'm personally passionate about)
	11:51pm Funky16Corners: Nite Geezerette!
	11:51pm doctorjazz: Kept me up too late, but was fun, thanks, Larry!
	11:52pm Funky16Corners: Nite Doc!
	11:53pm coelacanth∅: 'night geez' & 'jazz
	11:54pm coelacanth∅: Larry @11.51 you mean radiohead?
	11:55pm Funky16Corners: No, the Smithsonian record titles
	11:55pm still b/p: Lots of riders/recordmakers aboard cloying crapwagons of the period. Size of success perhaps corresponds to size and spikiness of bat brought easily to hand for the beatin’.
	11:55pm Dean: I think he means the Smithsonian titles. I'd suggest that Elliott Smith's title is more like scientific notation.
	11:56pm coelacanth∅: haha okay! cuz i could see someone who isn't really listening saying that about radiohead.
	11:58pm still b/p: Cotten stuff outstanding.
	11:58pm doctorjazz: Yup, have to look for the Cotton CD.
	11:59pm Dean: Dug it!
	12:00am Funky16Corners: I like her stuff a lot
	12:00am Funky16Corners: Thanks Dean!
	12:00am still b/p: Thanks, duggit, duggit, duggit.
	12:00am Funky16Corners: Thanks SBP!
	12:00am coelacanth∅: Most Excellent Larry Thanks! good night and take care, comrades
	12:01am Funky16Corners: Thanks C! Thanks to you all for listening and chatting!

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from April 11, 2018

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format
Funky16Corners	Testify! Intro "Testify! Intro" by "Funky16Corners"	Best of Funky16Corners Volume One	Funky16Corners	2017	MP3
Jimmy Robins	I Can't PLease You "I Can't PLease You" by "Jimmy Robins"	45RPM Single	Jerhart	1966	45
Ohio Players	Find Someone To Love	45RPM Single	Capitol	1969	45
Tommy James and the Shondells	Cleo's Mood	Hanky Panky	Roulette	1966	LP
Benny Gordon and the Soul Brothers	I Can't Turn You Loose	45RPM Single	RCA	1968	45

The Byrds	I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better	Mr Tambourine Man	Columbia	1965	LP
The Byrds	It Won't Be Wrong "It Won't Be Wrong" by "The Byrds"	Turn Turn Turn	Columbia	1965	LP
The Byrds	Have You Seen Her Face "Have You Seen Her Face" by "The Byrds"	Younger Than Yesterday	Columbia	1967	LP
The Byrds	Why "Why" by "The Byrds"	Younger Than Yesterday	Columbia	1967	LP
The Byrds	So You Want To Be a Rock'n'Roll Star	Younger Than Yesterday	Columbia	1967	45
Gene Clark	Los Angeles "Los Angeles" by "Gene Clark"	Where the Action Is! Los Angeles Nuggets 1965-1968	Rhino	2009	CD

Gene Clark and the Gosdin Brothers	Echoes	Gene Clark With the Gosdin Brothers	Columbia	1967	LP
Gene Clark and the Gosdin Brothers	So You Say You Lost Your Baby	Gene Clark with the Gosdin Brothers	Columbia	1967	LP
Gene Clark and the Gosdin Brothers	I Found You	Gene Clark with the Gosdin Brothers	Columbia	1967	LP
Gene Clark and the Gosdin Brothers	Is Yours Is Mine	Gene Clark with the Gosdin Brothers	Columbia	1967	LP
David Hemmings	Back Street Mirror	Happens	MGM	1967	LP
David Hemmings	Good King James "Good King James" by "David Hemmings"	Happens	MGM	1967	LP
Dillard and Clark	With Care From Someone	The Fantastic Expedition of Dillard and Clark	A&M	1968	LP
Dillard and Clark	Don't Let Me Down	Through the Morning Through the Night	A&M	1969	LP

Booker Ervin	Mojo "Mojo" by "Booker Ervin"	That's It!	Candid	1961	CD
Booker Ervin	The Second #2 "The Second #2" by "Booker Ervin"	Groovin' High	Prestige	1966	CD
Booker Ervin	The Trance "The Trance" by "Booker Ervin"	The Trance	Prestige	1967	CD

Elliott Smith	Angeles "Angeles" by "Elliott Smith"	Either/Or	Kill Rock Stars	1997	CD
Elliott Smith	Speed Trials "Speed Trials" by "Elliott Smith"	Either/Or	Kill Rock Stars	1997	CD
Elizabeth Cotten	Wilson Rag "Wilson Rag" by "Elizabeth Cotten"	Folksongs And Instrumentals With Guitar	Smithsonian	1958	CD
Elizabeth Cotten	Going Down the Road Feeling Bad	Folksongs And Instrumentals With Guitar	Smithsonian	1958	CD
Elizabeth Cotten	Vastopol "Vastopol" by "Elizabeth Cotten"	Folksongs And Instrumentals With Guitar	Smithsonian	1958	CD
John Martyn	Solid Air "Solid Air" by "John Martyn"	Solid Air	Island	1973	CD

Rex Garvin and the Mighty Cravers	I Gotta Go Now (Up On the Floor)	45RPM Single	Like	1966	45

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Listener comments!
	10:01pm hyde: hi
	10:02pm Funky16Corners: Hey Hyde!
	10:02pm coelacanth∅: howdy
	10:03pm Funky16Corners: Hey C!
	10:04pm Parq: Baby baby baby...
	10:04pm Parq: Baby baby baby...
	10:05pm Funky16Corners: Parq!
	10:05pm Parq: Baby b[ ]aby..
	10:07pm hyde: good sounds
	10:07pm Funky16Corners: Thanks!
	10:15pm hyde: my fave Byrds song!
	10:15pm Funky16Corners: Mine too!
	10:18pm geezerette: Larry! Parq! Hyde! Byrds! :D
	10:18pm Funky16Corners: Hey Geezerette!
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: my favorite byrds song must be their version of you ain't goin' nowhere. also the soundtrack version of the ballad of easy rider.
	10:23pm geezerette: grab a sand witch at the psyce deli!
	10:24pm northguineahills: I just finished my Byrds section Wednesday. Sorry Larry, texting the missus, gonna see my friends' bands play curious sounds in a wee bit. If I don't get back. Cheers y OOOs! tak tak!
	10:25pm still b/p: I regard 65 as an interesting year — Brit invasion well underway and hair and fashions and attitudes already shifted some, but rrrreally turning corner and swinging wider in freakyness in 65, winding up for even fuller blast/blossoming/boogie-ing/ counterculture bounce-bash to come.
	10:25pm Funky16Corners: Hey NGH!
	10:25pm northguineahills: (I have a crap ton of Byrds, but lack this LP).
	10:26pm hyde: ah, this set
	10:26pm Funky16Corners: I did an episode of my Iron Leg podcast about the period IK call the "sweet spot" early 65 to early 67 where things were really meshing together stylistically. I'll have to duplicate it here some time
	10:30pm northguineahills: ahem, sweetheart of the radio! :)
	10:30pm geezerette: It is an incredibly cohesive period. Lots of SF/LA cross pollination.
	10:31pm coelacanth∅: (i guess the st version of ballad of easy rider is not the byrds but just Roger McGuinn) ...i'm not much of a byrds fan in general but there is a lot i really like; it's just that i can't stand most of the radio stuff and the Dylan covers (except you ain't goin' nowhere)
	10:32pm geezerette: haha! good one, NGH.
	10:32pm Parq: "Feel A Whole Lot Better" figures wonderfully in the denouement of the book "The Commitments", which is very different than the epilogue of the movie.
	10:32pm Parq: Hya, Geezie! I'm on KP, but trying to follow along a teeny bit.
	10:32pm hyde: i should go to bed but...white light teaser...
	10:33pm northguineahills: Now I'm off to see my friends' noises. Thanks Larry and Woofmooers!
	10:33pm Funky16Corners: Nite NGH!
	10:34pm hyde: farewell, ngh!
	10:35pm geezerette: Howdy,Parq! Dawdle awhile,Hyde. Happy noises,NGH!
	10:36pm hyde: @geez am dawdlin'!
	10:37pm rw: Good evening!
	10:37pm Funky16Corners: Hey RW!
	10:37pm geezerette: ! :)
	10:37pm hyde: the Gosdin stuff is my Gene Clark blind spot
	10:38pm rw: Hey Larry! Here's your chance to change coelacant's mind about the Byrds. Don't blow it.
	10:38pm Funky16Corners: You don't like it?!?
	10:39pm rw: I do! Looking forward to the entire show. I don't think coel's the biggest fan though.
	10:39pm Funky16Corners: I meant Hyde
	10:42pm hyde: @Funky16Corners it's not that i don't like it, it's that i don't know it
	10:42pm rw: Oh, sorry. I don't know this stuff (Gosdin Bros) either. Good to hear it. Thanks. I'll shut up now and just listen!
	10:42pm Funky16Corners: Oh OK. Whew...This is one of my favorite albums ever.
	10:44pm coelacanth∅: i like everything played so far, except one i'm "kinda okay with"! ...i actually heard a bunch of byrds at some point last year that made me realise i need to explore some more...but i know i don't want to hear all the Dylan version hits or anything that uses that formula.
	10:44pm geezerette: Hi,Coel! Had to scroll back. I'm a sucker for this sound. I have a huge blind spot for Carpenters though. These things are mysterious,taste.
	10:44pm Funky16Corners: You could miss all the Dylan covers and still have an amazing catalog.
	10:45pm coelacanth∅: ...i really like "i found you". heard that one before, somewhere.
	10:46pm hyde: haha. "White Light" i think is one of the underrated records of the 70's, which is why i thought you were teasing that
	10:46pm geezerette: David Hemmings?!
	10:46pm rw: Larry: Okay, I guess I can't keep my mouth shut. That comp you were talking about (LA Nuggets). I'd been eyeing it but it's kind of pricey. I know what you're going to say but I'm going to ask anyway. It's worth the dough?
	10:47pm geezerette: From"Blow-Up?
	10:48pm Funky16Corners: Well, LA 65-68 is a huge deal for me, and they really cover it very thoroughly. You get stuff from all the big names, Byrds, Love etc, but also lots of amazing obscurities. I have a bunch of the original singles, but it was worth picking up anyway.
	10:48pm Funky16Corners: @Geezerette - The very same!
	10:48pm Funky16Corners: I'll explain the Gene Clark/Byrds connection at the break
	10:50pm hyde: must sleep. good night!
	10:51pm Funky16Corners: Nite Hyde!
	10:51pm coelacanth∅: Larry @10.44 that's what i'm considering. - although... i once worked for someone who would get into something and play it over and over all day every day for weeks or months and sweetheart of the rodeo and another full-on country album got that treatment and i didn't like it in the beginning and my dislike only increased. (as opposed to when he got into Patsy Cline or the ink spots)
	10:52pm geezerette: 'Night,Hyde!
	10:52pm Funky16Corners: I was heavy into Sweetheart when I was getting into Gram Parsons. Oddly enough I haven't listened to it in a long time. My fave late Byrds lp is Dr Byrds and Mr Hyde with Clarence White.
	10:52pm coelacanth∅: this is great!
	10:52pm coelacanth∅: gnight hyde
	10:53pm Funky16Corners: Bernie Leadon (future Eagle) on banjo
	10:53pm geezerette: Right?
	10:54pm still b/p: It is great...portions sounded like a pickin’ version of A Taste Of Honey.
	10:55pm geezerette: Great version of a great song. :)
	10:56pm Funky16Corners: Indeed
	10:56pm coelacanth∅: yeah he bombarded me with Gram Parsons and the flying burrito brothers too. i hated it! sorry! ...i don't hate i now... or at least not all of it. i really don't know, but my openness to "country" music is very different than it was in the '90s.
	10:58pm Parq: Okay, I admit it. I can never hear "Don't Let Me Down" without thinking of that viral video from years ago with the guy singing it with his two year old son. Hey, that kid's a teenager now; let that sink in.
	10:59pm geezerette: These are all great singin' & drivin' songs. Unless "rush" hour.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: (...and as i eluded to, i love "you ain't goin' nowhere" from that album)
	11:03pm Funky16Corners: A lot of that stuff is really country rock, or country-inflected rock music. If you're deep into "real" country, a lot of it sounds thin and undercooked. If you take the time to dig into that specific sound, there's a lot of good stuff
	11:05pm Dean: Almost played some Booker Ervin earlier this evening. Opted instead for Manuel Mengis (trumpet, but featuring alto and tenor sax, too).
	11:06pm doctorjazz: Missed the country rock, here for the jazz (catch up in the archives, looks like great sets). Booker, Mingus' main man! Hey Larry and folks!
	11:06pm Funky16Corners: He's one of my faves. I was turned on to him by an older jazzbo/hippie guy I used to work with who raved about him. I quickly fell in love with his sound.
	11:07pm Dean: Come to think of it, played some J.D. Souther just a couple nights ago. He's, I suppose, easy to hate L.A. rock.
	11:09pm Funky16Corners: Some day I'm going to hit the record store and buy up as much of that 1972-1980 LA singer songwriter stuff and deep dive into it. While there is sure to be lots of cocaine induced excess, I expect that the quality of the people involved means that there's some great music, too.
	11:12pm coelacanth∅: Larry (sorry i'm not on top of the comments!) my tastes in country are pretty specific. i love Hank Williams, but my favorite HW songs by far are his starker songs; and demos of just him w guitar. some songs ("mansion on the hill,ie) are good songs - just ruined by inane steel git fills. other songs are pretty stupid but are redeemed by his stellar singing. ...i like Roy Acuff; i like Slim Whitman sometimes! i'm thoroughly repulsed by hank jr. and nearly every country "giant" i've heard who's been active during my lifetime.
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: country rock - i like some. i'm not sure where the lines are.
	11:13pm geezerette: Loving this.
	11:13pm Funky16Corners: I love Hank, Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Bobby Bare, most of the late 50s into early 70s stuff. I also love old, old country blues stuff too.
	11:13pm Funky16Corners: Thanks Geezerette!
	11:14pm Dean: Well, there are the Eagles and everybody else. I myself can't bear those guys, yet I enjoy Souther (likely because he is not an Eagle). I love Linda, enjoy Andrew Gold, etc. Never quite caught on to the Byrds, though, but I enjoy Parsons. I definitely appreciate the pop aspect of the L.A. sound, the fact that it is not country. My experience with country music is narrow: I love Larry Hosford, sorry he died. But even he is pop.
	11:15pm coelacanth∅: big country blues fan here. and i like Merle and the very little i know of Buck.
	11:15pm Funky16Corners: I find most of the stuff I like right away, is "unpure" i.e. people messing around and mashing up styles.
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: it's so easy for the lines to be blurry,after all.
	11:17pm Dean: Aaron Copland? Classical? Country? Pop? Who knows?!
	11:18pm Funky16Corners: The early 20th century classical guys like Stravinsky, Copland, Milhaud, Gershwin, all style-mashers
	11:18pm Dean: (In fact, Copland's early piano work is rather difficult.)
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: i like a few early eagles songs. even the doobies were considered country rock at first. that stuff's pretty good. -is JJ Cale considered country? i really like "really?"... really.
	11:18pm geezerette: Dean do you know Wendy Waldman? Andrew Gold was a friend of hers and appeared on her early albums. He was great. I love his albums.
	11:19pm doctorjazz: Like the old time country guys, the bluegrass guys, Honkey Tonk, and some modern stuff too (depends on who; don't know tons of it, but some, but the best stuff is generally the best stuff, whatever genre to me. Hey, I love a great Polka...)
	11:20pm Dean: Waldman definitely rings a bell, but why? I don't recognize her album covers, but I'm sure I encountered her stuff in the '70s.
	11:22pm Dean: (By the way, geezerette, my buddy Ray named the English teacher you believe you two shared, but I don't remember it!)
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: yeah, dr j i never saw polka coming!(Thank you Stashu) but yeah not all of it. i only know one Andrew Gold song, and it's not country at all, if i remember correctly.
	11:24pm Funky16Corners: He was on the pop/rock side of things. He was also the son of Marni Nixon, the singer who dubbed in Natalie Wood's vocals in West Side Story
	11:24pm Dean: "Lonely Boy," no doubt. Pure pop. But he was long connected to Linda R., and did some great country-ish stuff on, e.g., the Prisoner in Disguise album (a Souther song), which also featured Neil Young, Dolly Parton...maybe the best version of Dolly's "I Will Always Love You."
	11:25pm coelacanth∅: really...with Dolly singing or Linda?
	11:25pm Funky16Corners: He was also in a band called Bryndle with Wendy Waldman, Karla Bonoff and Kenny Edwards
	11:26pm geezerette: Doc, true,it's all music! Gold made a wonderful album of Beatles covers too. Very sweet.
	11:27pm doctorjazz: Hey Geez!
	11:27pm Jeff Ash: Have a good evening, Larry. Gotta go!
	11:27pm Funky16Corners: Nite Jeff!
	11:27pm Dean: Criminy, Peter Asher was Linda's producer! Talk about pop! Yes, Bryndle! Great stuff. Just picked up a fairly recent Edwards album, engineered by Warren Dewey, a guy who has both a stereo store and a record store a few short blocks from my place.
	11:29pm coelacanth∅: oh that's a Ronstadt album. i knew it was familiar. i never heard it though. ...but i will.
	11:29pm Dean: (Have to admit that when I first heard the Dillard and Clark above I thought it might have been Goose Creek Symphony!)
	11:31pm Funky16Corners: I've heard that name but am not familiar with their music. What are they like?
	11:32pm geezerette: Howdy Doc! All those people turned up at McCabe's. A lot of them canyon or hill dwellers in those days.
	11:32pm still b/p: No familiarity with Gold’s other work and adventures, but Lonely Boy...oy, so awkward, those lyrics and the sketch of the “boy.” Remained a permanent sour face inducer.
	11:34pm Dean: GCS is pop country out of Kentucky and Arizona. They had a series of albums on Capitol in the '70s. I think they're still plugging along. McCabe's. What a venue. What an amazing venue.
	11:35pm doctorjazz: Ervin is actually pretty "technical", can play fast if he wants to...always thought of him as the mellow foil to Dolphy and some of the other monsters in the Mingus band.
	11:36pm Dean: I've heard at McCabe's: Jonathan Richman, Steve Lacy & Roswell Rudd, and Hamza el Din.
	11:36pm doctorjazz: "mellow" not actually the right word, soulful was more like his role...
	11:37pm doctorjazz: That's a wild trio of different musicians, Dean, cool.
	11:37pm Parq: Talking about that era, and Rondstadt in particular, reminds me of Linda's cover of Tracy Nelson's "Down So Low", which a friend of mine hipped me to in 1979. Me, I distinguish Country Rock (Poco, the Riders) from west coast singer-songwriter (Eagles, America, Jackson Browne). It's the latter I've practically no use for.
	11:37pm Dean: Different nights, of course. The venue. It's all about the venue.
	11:39pm Dean: Yes, love Poco, can't come around to Browne. Gave up and broke down and started acquiring America stuff. Can't shake them, but I suspect it's due in part to George Martin.
	11:40pm Dean: But I love Iain Matthews' take on "These Days."
	11:40pm Funky16Corners: I like early Poco a lot, but I think a bunch of it dovetails with the Buffalo Springfield sound
	11:40pm doctorjazz: Grew up listening to Jackson Brown, Eagles, still have a soft spot for them (though I don't pull the albums out)
	11:43pm doctorjazz: Not many venues in NY area with that eclectic booking policy I know of...maybe the Bottom Line was close when it was around.
	11:45pm Dean: McCabe's is sui generis. It's a guitar store. The walls are lined with string instruments. They resonate during shows.
	11:46pm still b/p: Haven’t understood the hot venom that Eagles stir. Some of the music’s insipid, and their crazy-money reunion antics are scoffworthy, but altogether just a flavor of pop, not all awful, some with medium nostalgia appeal. The ritualistic hammering and burning....’sup with that?
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: i make a distinction between poco, nrps & the ca. stuff, but i can't say i like - or dislike, one realm more than the other. i do like some songs by each of those artists. i like early Browne. (influenced by a group of girls i hung with as a teen) my older brother got into nrps and i followed suit and got a few albums around the age of 14 (?) soft spot, yes, when i hear it; but i never put those records on.
	11:48pm doctorjazz: Just downloaded a file a friend sent me, speaking of West Coast venues-Masada, live at Yoshi's 5/27/00. That was one of the GREAT live bands, hope the sound quality is good (will share if anyone is interested...)
	11:48pm Funky16Corners: I actually like a lot of Eagles music. I can't stand Henley or Frey, two of the biggest egos to roll down the pike. I almost always leave them on the radio when they come on (Long Run stuff excepted)
	11:48pm coelacanth∅: still b/p -it's fashion! like hating the beatles or radiohead or led zeppelin.
	11:49pm Dean: @still b/p: I think you answered your own question... "Some of the music’s insipid, and their crazy-money reunion antics are scoffworthy, but altogether just a flavor of pop, not all awful, some with medium nostalgia appeal." But I remember hearing them in the early '70s and thinking, "This is just cloying crap."
	11:49pm doctorjazz: I agree, Coel...
	11:49pm coelacanth∅: (except i don't mean to place the eagles within 1700 miles to the level of those others!)
	11:50pm Dean: Granted, part of what made it cloying crap was that they weren't Mahavishnu Orchestra, but factor out that and...they're still cloying crap.
	11:50pm doctorjazz: Smthsonian really knew how to come up with catchy titles for albums, dontchathink?
	11:51pm Dean: If only hating Radiohead were fashion, I'd be a happier man.
	11:51pm geezerette: Yeah Dean,haven't been in ages bt it's a gem. Love Elizabeth Cotton. Stellar show Larry! Goodnight all, lovely hanging out.
	11:51pm Funky16Corners: They're like scientific notation
	11:51pm coelacanth∅: hahaha i don't mean that as harsh as it may seem! i'm not on that bandwagon. (just - i name 3 bands that either changed the world or that i'm personally passionate about)
	11:51pm Funky16Corners: Nite Geezerette!
	11:51pm doctorjazz: Kept me up too late, but was fun, thanks, Larry!
	11:52pm Funky16Corners: Nite Doc!
	11:53pm coelacanth∅: 'night geez' & 'jazz
	11:54pm coelacanth∅: Larry @11.51 you mean radiohead?
	11:55pm Funky16Corners: No, the Smithsonian record titles
	11:55pm still b/p: Lots of riders/recordmakers aboard cloying crapwagons of the period. Size of success perhaps corresponds to size and spikiness of bat brought easily to hand for the beatin’.
	11:55pm Dean: I think he means the Smithsonian titles. I'd suggest that Elliott Smith's title is more like scientific notation.
	11:56pm coelacanth∅: haha okay! cuz i could see someone who isn't really listening saying that about radiohead.
	11:58pm still b/p: Cotten stuff outstanding.
	11:58pm doctorjazz: Yup, have to look for the Cotton CD.
	11:59pm Dean: Dug it!
	12:00am Funky16Corners: I like her stuff a lot
	12:00am Funky16Corners: Thanks Dean!
	12:00am still b/p: Thanks, duggit, duggit, duggit.
	12:00am Funky16Corners: Thanks SBP!
	12:00am coelacanth∅: Most Excellent Larry Thanks! good night and take care, comrades
	12:01am Funky16Corners: Thanks C! Thanks to you all for listening and chatting!

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from April 11, 2018

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