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The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Favoriting Congliptious  Nessa  1968 
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Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 

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My Brother The Wind, Vol. I 

Saturn Research 

1970 

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Gerd Dudek  The Peacocks   Favoriting 'smatter  psi  2002 
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Jerome Sabbagh  Gone with the Wind   Favoriting Heart  Analog Tone Factory  2024 
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Spacemusic Ensemble  B - 2+3   Favoriting IS OKAY OKAY IS CERTIFIED  Motvind Records  2019 
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Teip Trio  Take 7   Favoriting Teip Trio  Sonic Transmissions Records  2022 
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Tim Berne & Bill Frisell  Eef Laat   Favoriting Live in Someplace Nice  Screwgun Records  1984/2024 
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Harmonia  Live at Onkel Pö In Hamburg (1975)   Favoriting Documents 1975  Grönland Records  1975/2015 
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Booker T. & The MGs 

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François Tusques & Sunny Murray  1 face b   Favoriting intercommunal dialogue 1&2  Ni Vu Ni Connu  2007 
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Max Roach & Mal Waldron  You Don't Know What Love Is   Favoriting Explorations... To The Mth Degree  Slam Productions  1995 
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Laura Jurd & Paul Dunmall  Fanfare 2   Favoriting Fanfares and Freedom  Discus Music  2024 
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Weird of Mouth  Proven Right, Then Left, Then Right   Favoriting Weird of Mouth  Otherly Love Records  2024 
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Charles Tyler + Brus Trio  M​ö​rkrost (Dark Blend)   Favoriting Autumn in Paris  Silkheart  1988 
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Andile Khumalo  Wade Through Water   Favoriting Tracing Hollow Traces  New Focus Records  2024 
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Music behind DJ:
Dick Khoza 

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Fela Kuti & Afrika 70  J.J.D. (Parts 1 & 2)   Favoriting J.J.D (Johnny Just Drop!!) - Live!! At Kalakuta Republik  Afrodisia  1977 
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Joe Gibbs & The Professionals  Tribesman Rockers   Favoriting African Dub All-Mighty – Chapter 3  Joe Gibbs Record Globe  1977 
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Orchestra Harlow  Grazin' in the Grass   Favoriting Presenta a Ismael Miranda  Fania Records  1968 
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The Knickerbockers  Lies   Favoriting Lies  Challenge  1965 
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Stevie Wonder  Boogie On Reggae Woman   Favoriting Fulfillingness' First Finale  Tamla Motown  1974 
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Don Muro  Getting Closer   Favoriting Souffrances et Extases du Jeune Amour  Flannelgraph Records  1974?/2014 
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Elvis Costello & the Attractions  Honey, Are You Straight or Are You Blind?   Favoriting Blood & Chocolate  Columbia  1986 
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The Lyres  You'll Never Do It Baby   Favoriting Lyres Lyres  Ace Of Hearts Records  1986 
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Roxy Music  Editions of You   Favoriting For Your Pleasure  Island Records  1974 
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Slapp Happy  Tutankhamun   Favoriting Sort Of  Polydor  1972 
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William Hooker - Billy Bang Duo  Blood and Coffee (Surviving)   Favoriting Joy (Within​)​!  Silkheart  1994 
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Dudu Pukwana & Spear 

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Flute Music 

Caroline 

1975 

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Listener comments!

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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz ~
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Jeff Golick:

Hey there, Revolution Rabbit Nov63, ya early boid!
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Andrew in Toronto:

Good morning, Jeff, and other jazzheads!
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chresti:

Morning Jeff and d'OUTers!
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hyde:

happy sunday
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Yvang:

Hi Jeff and DOlisteners!
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Jeff Golick:

Hello hello hello
Andrew in Toronto!
chresti!
hyde!
Welcome aboard.
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Jeff Golick:

Greetings, Yvang!
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ chresti @9:01
Morning, crestikins!
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tom tom the pipers son:

ooohhh, the bracing cacaphony of roscoe mitchel upside my head....
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fred:

Hello Jeff and listeners
Speaking of piano, I'm leaving in an hour to see a performance for 6 pianos (de)tuned to make something like white noise
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Jeff Golick:

Really gets the blood flowing, tom tom the pipers son. Welcome.
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Jeff Golick:

Hi, fred! That sounds like it will sound amazing.
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Yvang @9:01
morning, Yvang!
  9:04am
StringOFperils:

Yeah, verily, thee shopping Muzak shall in this way be smited…uh…smote…vaporized
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tom tom the pipers son:

good morning jeff and all...
  9:05am
listener james from westwood:

Morning, Jeff and all!
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

Good morning Jeff and Hello to my fellow Outronauts. Happy Sunday to you all from me and the dogs
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doctorjazz:

Hello Jeff G and distinguished Outies!
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Yvang:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:03
Morning Andrew!
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Jeff Golick:

StringOFperils!
listener james from westwood!
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA!
doctorjazz!

What a crew! Great to see you.
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tom tom the pipers son:

good afternoon yvang
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WR:

Hello Jeff and folks.
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Jeff Golick:

Greets, WR!
  9:12am
Stork:

Schön guten Tag, liebe Outenheimers!
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Doug Schulkind:

Some people suffer with GERD. Personally, I can't get enough.
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ doctorjazz @9:06
Hi there, doc!
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Jeff Golick:

Guten tag, Stork!
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ hyde @9:01
Hiya, hyde!
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DJ Peter:

↳ Song: "The Peacocks" by "Gerd Dudek"
Good morning!

When did this tune become a jazz standard? I’ll have to look, I think the key versions are Rowles, Getz, Bill Evans, Wayne and Herbie, then Branford Marsalis probably seals it.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Doug Schulkind @9:12
Agree, Doug! As any major dudek will tell you.
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Jeff Golick:

DJ Peter!
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Yvang:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:08
Hey Tom Tom!
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hyde:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:14
hellllo AiT!
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WR:

Jeff, I see you already have made your Hellraiser plans.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ WR @9:24
Yeah, WR. Needed to give myself something to shoot for.
  9:26am
Stork:

This Spacemusic piece is written by Signe Emmeluth. Great sax player who recently gigged here in Münster. She‘s got 2 or 3 fine bands.
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Mxter Baba:

hey, Jeff and folx! IN for the OUT!!!
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Stork @9:26
Oh very cool, Stork. I only recently got turned on to Emmeluth.
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Mxter Baba:

and digfully digging the upcoming October theme!
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Jeff Golick:

Yeaaaahhhhhh, Mxter Baba!
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "B - 2+3" by "Spacemusic Ensemble"
Threadgill-ian!
Like it!
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doctorjazz:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:13
Hi Andrew!
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doctorjazz:

↳ doctorjazz @9:31
(then it goes off in it's own direction...)
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luka:

good morning
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Jeff Golick:

and to you, luka!
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alanr:

It's Mexican independence day here, and while listening, I am in the kitchen preparing ceviche from fresh mackerel (known as "sierra" here). Our Sunday D.O. habits are just the thing to begin the day.
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Jeff Golick:

What is the proper greeting on Mexican independence day, alanr? I am warmed by your presence.
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Jeff Golick:

Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in someplace nice.
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Eef Laat" by "Tim Berne & Bill Frisell"
Early Frisell-cool track!
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DJ Peter:

↳ Song: "Eef Laat" by "Tim Berne & Bill Frisell"
I’ve missed this Frisell
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Jeff Golick:

↳ DJ Peter @9:52
Yeah I know what you mean.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Eef Laat" by "Tim Berne & Bill Frisell"
groovy...
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alanr:

↳ Jeff Golick @9:45
No tengo un idéa!
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tom tom the pipers son:

have to step out but waiting til this is through...jeff please play something lousy after this so i can go out and get some breakfast
  9:55am
Sailor Dog:

This set is IDEAL
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chresti:

↳ Song: "Eef Laat" by "Tim Berne & Bill Frisell"
Screwgun Records is a nice label name.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:55
I'll try my best, tom tom.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Sailor Dog @9:55
Hey there, Sailor Dog! Happy to have you aboard!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "Eef Laat" by "Tim Berne & Bill Frisell"
Makes me think of 'Goodbye Porkpie Hat' somehow (which I first knew from JeffBeck actually - & whose version I still like)...
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Jeff Golick @9:58
i don't thinjk it'll work....be right back
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:58
...& which I always thot of as similar to 'Lonely Woman' in a way. If I consider it...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ chresti @9:55
Classic Tim Berne.
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Woo:

Good morning
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doctorjazz:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:58
John McLaughlin did a great solo acoustic version of Goodbye Poek Pie Hat (for later listening...)
youtu.be...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Woo @10:01
Hi there, Woo!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ doctorjazz @10:02
Aha. I'll bet.
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Live at Onkel Pö In Hamburg (1975)" by "Harmonia"
Like this!
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doctorjazz:

↳ doctorjazz @10:04
Nice balance of energy and stasis...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:03
...probly heard that ...Beck & McLaughlin mutually admired each other of course - pals even...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ doctorjazz @10:04
Yeah nice one.
  10:05am
StringOFperils:

That version of GBPPH on My Goals Beyond is great. A fave recording actually.
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doctorjazz:

↳ StringOFperils @10:05
Same (great album).
  10:07am
StringOFperils:

The LP cover made it sell like hotcakes
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doctorjazz:

Announcments time-
(Tom Tom can get breakfast)
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Mxter Baba:

↳ doctorjazz @10:07
yeah! and I'll prepare some tea
  10:09am
Stork:

Onkel Pö‘s musta been been quite a scene in the 70‘s. Soo many great live gigs, recorded beautifully!
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doctorjazz:

↳ Mxter Baba @10:08
Making me some coffee (Spelling Bee is making me crazy this morning).
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tom tom the pipers son:

back wit da cawfeee
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ doctorjazz @10:07
thanks jeff.... there was a line....
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:15
Just brewed up some Ethiopian Guji here
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tom tom the pipers son:

thanks dr. jazzz
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doctorjazz:

Mine is Rawandan Question Coffee.
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "1 face b" by "François Tusques & Sunny Murray"
Play Dem Blues!
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DJ Peter:

↳ doctorjazz @10:19
Don’t know about that one… tell me more!
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @10:18
ohhh jealous....strictly bunn coffee in my neighborhood but the panaderias serve decent stuff
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Jeff Golick:

Coffee just turned off here :( -- Kate made a pot earlier (pre-dog walk) of our local place's Counter Culture blend which they unfortuantely call South Slurp.
  10:25am
StringOFperils:

What would you call it?
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hyde:

just made spanakopita with puff pastry that's been in the freezer 11 months, and it is the most raggedy ass spanakopita ever
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "You Don't Know What Love Is" by "Max Roach & Mal ...
is this a standard...?
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:21
My Ethiopian is a natural, lately I’ve been getting into anaerobic ferments a lot. This one is “Cat & Cloud” roaster but I’m not sure yet how I like them. Current fave roaster is Stamp Act
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Jeff Golick:

↳ StringOFperils @10:25
A good question...I'd probably go with something boring like "Southside Blend."
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doctorjazz:

↳ DJ Peter @10:20
Was in Rawanda summer 2023, started drinking it then. Women farmed, sustainable, invests in small local farmers, yada yada yada (very good tasting)
www.questioncoffee.com
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Jeff Golick:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27
Yeah, pretty much. Lotta versions out there.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @10:27
hey...i said i was jealous, what are you trying to do to me?... ; )
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hyde:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27
yes! it was originally first in an Abbot & Costello movie, but it got cut from the final edit
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:29
thx
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doctorjazz:

↳ hyde @10:27
I have some Trader Joes spanakopita calling to me from the freezer...
  10:30am
WM:

Never heard Francois Tusques before. A quick Google search shows he has an extensive discography. Must listen to more of his music.
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hyde:

↳ doctorjazz @10:30
i'm sure it looks better than mine does
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Jeff Golick:

↳ hyde @10:27
I think Doug might've guested with Raggedy ass spanakopita when they toured by his high school.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ hyde @10:29
ah...i'm familiar with that detail....must be from another version i heard
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:30
haha!lol
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doctorjazz:

↳ WM @10:30
Same, a new name to me, like his playing.
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hyde:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:30
haha
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:29
I’m going to make it even worse, sorry: having it with birthday cake
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @10:27
almost completely lean to not having coffee in the house...just something ingrained from when i had no money to buy coffee by the pound...don't keep alcohol in the apt either... i keep it strictly a social activity
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Jeff Golick:

↳ WM @10:30
Hey, WM. I like some of his latter-day releases on Improvising Beings, e.g., improvising-beings.bandcamp.com... His earlier 70s stuff is more in the "traditional" French free jazz direction.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @10:33
ha! and are you still in seattle? is it 7:30 am?
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:35
I appreciate that. We still have liquor in house but I hardly ever touch it except with guests or a meal
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Fanfare 2" by "Laura Jurd & Paul Dunmall"
fanfare is an apt description ...title
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hyde:

this is a great interview with Francois Tusques, fwiw: www.psychedelicbabymag.com...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ hyde @10:37
Thanks, hyde! Will check that out.
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:36
Back home! (But yes stamp act is a Seattle area roaster.)

Thought I’d be on the road today which is why Nick is filling in at 7:00.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @10:39
ah right...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Song: "Proven Right, Then Left, Then Right" by "Weird of...
Weird of Mouth =
Mette Rasmussen – alto saxophone + preparations + bells
Craig Taborn – piano + preparations
Ches Smith – drums + percussion
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:41
The cover art for this one kinda feels like Philip Guston with a good pharmacologist.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:44
yes and guston only had cigarettes and the hard stuff to get him in the mood
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tom tom the pipers son:

"dark blend". just a little late for the thread
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "M​ö​rkrost (Dark Blend)" by "Charles Tyler + Brus...
punchy drums...nice
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Jeff Golick:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:50
There is also a "medium blend" on this record.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:50
was kind of a sharp hand drum sound...wonder if drums tuned for that sound
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:51
ah, the drumming was a bit 'jittery'....; )
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Wade Through Water" by "Andile Khumalo"
Pretty! (but not too pretty)
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Wade Through Water" by "Andile Khumalo"
there's an early morton feldman piece this reminds me of in regard to pitch
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tom tom the pipers son:

there was an artist named gunther brus who i believe was german
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:58
austrian
  11:06am
Tim Teardrop:

Slightly synchronous greetings, listening while on a short visit to Graz
https://www.museum-joanneum.at/en/neue-galerie-graz/press/guenter-brus
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Tim Teardrop @11:06
Oh fantastic, Tim Teardop! Thanks for checking in.
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TDK60:

Hi Jeff.
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Jeff Golick:

T! D! K! 60!
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hyde:

saw Fela once and it was at this weird night club that had a small stage. too small for Fela to dance on. he was SO MAD
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StringOFperils:

Not surprising. That band requires at least half a basketball court just to stay out of each other's way
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hyde:

↳ StringOFperils @11:11
yeah, they were super cramped
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StringOFperils:

I imagine that might prove difficult for the band. There's a lot of smoke around Fela. It might get confusing over time (over 4 hours the one time I got to see them)
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tom tom the pipers son:

been reading an overview of frankfurt school thought and one detail has to do with societies were value is reified, point of consumption/exchange is different from where the 'thing' is produced, and societies where the value exchange is direct....this regarding some african women on my block that established a hair braiding business for mostly african clientele...i'm talking out of my hat, but the presence of the women is quite interesting. internally they seem quite different, maybe value, but they seem immune to any negative effects of western commodity culture....i don't know where the come from but wonder if it's because they come from the second type of society that the frankfurt school talks about
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StringOFperils:

↳ StringOFperils @11:14
Then again...it might all be pretty baked from the outset
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:15
i hope this does not come across as exoticism
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Song: "J.J.D. (Parts 1 & 2)" by "Fela Kuti & Afrika 70"
"Recorded in autumn 1976, six months before the army attack on Kalakuta Republic, the title track is a lampoon of “been-to”s, Nigerians who had been to Europe or the US and who came back with inferiority complexes about African culture. Ghariokwu Lemi’s front-cover portrays a suited-up been-to, dressed like a cartoon British toff, as he parachutes into a Lagos street to the bemusement of passers-by. The back cover shows a more funkily dressed been-to, wearing US-style ghetto-chic, but looking equally out of place. See how these JJD’s dress and talk, sings Fela, they are trying to be foreigners. In response, the chorus repeat the single word “original.” This is a reference to Fela’s closing line on 1973’s “Gentleman” – “I no be gentleman at all-o, I be Africa man, original.” "
  11:19am
rw:

Good morning!
  11:19am
WM:

@tom tom: what essay or overview are you referring to?
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Jeff Golick:

rw!
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ WM @11:19
it's a series of lectures given by a britsh scholar...it's a verso publication....do i have some thing wrong?
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DJ Peter:

↳ Jeff Golick @11:18
“Been-to” is delightfully pithy. Frantz Fanon in his grave is kicking himself.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ DJ Peter @11:22
...or maybe that's just how he dances...
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21
gillian rose
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tom tom the pipers son:

actually let me take back my comment at 11:15 don't like the way it's leaning
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:15
If the overview was discussing classic Frankfurt School thought, then I’m going to opine that the Frankfurters could not anticipate the cultural formations of the 21st century: the return of authoritarianism that might have foreseen, but I don’t think they were great on empire and migration
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StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:15
'Exchange-value' a la Marx goes beyond trade in the everyday sense, and has more to do with a reductive template in which human beings are transmuted into market value based mainly on their potential to labour; a scenario in which life is worth nothing once work is removed. The so-called Frankfurt School were attempting to codify the DNA of fascism in order to perhaps take it apart utterly, so examining dehumanization in the 'marketplace' was a key piece of Marxian thought to build upon
  11:27am
WM:

That critique reminds me of a book I reviewed some years ago, Cash Values: The Value of Money the Nature of Worth by Craig Gay.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @11:26
thanks, i was over simplifying
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StringOFperils:

It's still not easy to comprehend...hard to examine the Matrix when you're it
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DJ Peter:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:25
Thanks for voicing it, and for taking the risk!

I think the issue is that the Frankfurters had a very pessimistic view of commodity culture. EG Adorno could not see that culture could be recycled in a resistant fashion. Sampling or remixing would be completely constrained by capitalism in his eyes whereas we might argue that it’s a form of speaking back to capitalism by reworking a musical commodity
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @11:25
maybe, but i see something there, though with the collapsing of the "formerly" colonized world into the developed world which resonates with the frankfurt school
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DJ Peter:

↳ DJ Peter @11:30
So the hair culture that you are observing is on that line.

Put another way: for Adorno there is no meaning to style. A car with tailfins is a car with useless ornamentation
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Lies" by "The Knickerbockers"
Best Wanna-be-Beatles song EVER!
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TDK60:

↳ Song: "Lies" by "The Knickerbockers"
I recall this was one of the first Beatlesque hits on Top 40 back then. Pretty good.
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luka:

↳ Song: "Lies" by "The Knickerbockers"
i used to listen to a lot of am sports radio in chicago. dark days. but, one of the better shows had a weekly segment about people being full of crap and this song was part of the medley/intro to the segment.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @11:30
yes, in my reading the lecturer says adorno's opinion about jazz for instance has been mis characterized
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Jeff Golick:

↳ luka @11:33
Love it.
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StringOFperils:

When Marx began writing about it in the last half of the 1800s, he was concerned (from an economist's standpoint) to see how local miners were being exploited by the power of capital held by the mine owners. He could see the kernal of social destruction in their de-facto dehumanization. He wrote about it while working as a young journaliist...before he ever move to London and expanded on his ideas.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ DJ Peter @11:31
right, exactly, that's what i'm trying to describe
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "Lies" by "The Knickerbockers"
NJ's own. A little too tight & Pro to be GarageRawk - but some Frat crossover & that spirit...
  11:36am
WM:

You might be thinking about the Austrian economist Carl Menger who wrote The Origins of Money, although he was not associated with the Frankfurt school.
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DJ Peter:

"party awn rey-rey wowwmn" ! (i usually think of Stevie as being very clear but that's the bluesiest, Joe Turner-iest delivery I've heard him do)
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Jeff Golick:

↳ DJ Peter @11:36
I had no idea what he was saying there, until I finally looked at the song title.
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TDK60:

↳ Song: "Boogie On Reggae Woman" by "Stevie Wonder"
Am I remembering correctly enough to say the synthy bass on this was fairly new, especially as a bass part.
  11:39am
mic_a:

Hello, Jeff and DOers. Dead man's switch -- still alive here. They kicked me out of the Frankfurt School for asking if I could have a hot dog and gladly pay them on Tuesday.
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StringOFperils:

Marcuse was the nastiest cafeteria lady
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ mic_a @11:39
ha!
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doctorjazz:

↳ TDK60 @11:37
I recall the same thing, it was a new way to lay down the bass.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Can there be Commercial FolkMuzix ? & have Pop ~ Rawk been it. Not to say Jazzes & HipHops...
& then that Corporate Distribution system collapsed too...
Both more Corporately centralized - & more available with New Media @ the same time (everyone can hear or see you ...but no support to do it - & no Promotion & who cares.)
More & More is owned by Fewer & Fewer - that's for sure.
Even the means by which Artists (...Influencers ...whoever they are. & whatever they do ...exactly...) might promote themselves. Especially these Tech means. In fact...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Rawk rose with the demographix of young people having more Money - & the Class & Race implications of this too...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "You'll Never Do It Baby" by "The Lyres"
BAWSTINRAWK
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...always been an element of having our own Culture sold back to us...
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StringOFperils:

↳ Song: "You'll Never Do It Baby" by "The Lyres"
I have this album and it's the bee's knees
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Eno positing - probly quoting someone else in fact - that Art is exactly everything's that's not strictly Necessary... But I think there's limits to that assertion - given Human Nature, & that of our Society, in fact... That is - we Need It very much actually.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:35
In 1966 there were two dance party shows on channel 9 in L.A. - Ninth Street West and Boss City. Ten year old me was smitten with both of them. The Knickerbockers were regular guests. As a matter of fact, the chubby guy with a sprayed pompadour was a great raconteur. Yes, they wore suits and had short hair, but they were adored.
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tom tom the pipers son:

@ jeff...really like your rock'n'roll final sets like doug's soul set something to send you home with
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DJ Peter:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:48
probably quoting Kant. art is purposiveness without purpose
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TDK60:

↳ Song: "You'll Never Do It Baby" by "The Lyres"
I saw The Lyres on a day the singer had apparently had too much fun before the show. He fell off the stage at one point.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ TDK60 @11:49
I also saw a very disappointing latter-day Lyres show.
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Andrew in Toronto:

What an excellent show!
Thanks, Jeff!
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StringOFperils:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:48
Artists make statements to put people on the back foot, to make them off balance so they're forced to reexamine their received notions about everything. Artists aren't worth much as artists if they don't....they're probably masquerading as artists.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Jeff Golick @11:49
the 90's liars were always keen on separating themselve from the lyres
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ TDK60 @11:49
Seems MonoMan is known for two things. Totally Bringing It. & Falling Over sometimes.
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doctorjazz:

Thanks, Jeff, dug the show!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

What a neat-o Set.
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TDK60:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:51
Rev: It was a good show, still.
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StringOFperils:

This is one album I've nevah hoid at all
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ StringOFperils @11:50
' To comfort the disturbed - & to disturb the comfortable. '
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doctorjazz:

(I-ahem- can't quote Kant, but interesting discussion nonetheless)
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hyde:

↳ TDK60 @11:49
as someone who has seen the Lyres a lot, that's not atypical
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tom tom the pipers son:

thanks folks for not tearing my comment apart and sharing your wealth of knowledge
@jeff enjoyed the whole show...:)
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StringOFperils:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:52
I like that!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:48
Yeah very Pro. But Bringing It.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ TDK60 @11:49
Ha! I saw them at Maxwell's one freezing night, and Mono Man drank a whole can of Hi C grape party punch and let most of it run down the front of his shirt.
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Jeff Golick:

Yooo Franco Twinkie!

Thanks for the elevated conversation, everybody.
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Franco Twinkie:

Hi/bye Jeff!
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TDK60:

Ho Franco. This leads me to a tangent of recalling, my asking friends in the '70s how concerts were that I missed. All kinds of stories were uttered about who got too high or who got lost or, other druggy escapades. I always stubbornly insisted on asking how the music was.
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chresti:

Thanks Jeff!
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hyde:

thanks for the tunes!
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mic_a:

Thanks! Be good!
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TDK60:

Gracias, DJ Jeff.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ TDK60 @11:56
The music was fantastic.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ StringOFperils @11:50
& as Boowie said - never play to the gallery.
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TDK60:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:58
HA!
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StringOFperils:

Merci bouquets, Jeff and attendant hive-mind. It's been lovely.
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WR:

Thank you, Jeff.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
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Listener Gregory:

↳ Song: "Eef Laat" by "Tim Berne & Bill Frisell"
Hey, Jeff, catching the show on archive and just a comment on the title Eef Laat. Obviously a pun (as you correctly pronounced it), but Eef is also the Dutch language version of Eve, pronounced "Afe." So I wonder if there is a real person connected to the title.
Surprisingly pleasant record. The original Frisell-Berne record is more aggressive and clang-ey. In this one, all the compositions are credited to Berne, and Frisell seems to be playing responses and accompaniment, at which he is the best in the world. IMHO.
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Listener Gregory:

↳ Song: "1 face b" by "François Tusques & Sunny Murray"
A little confused over your track listing. Doesn't "face b" mean Side B? We're clearly hearing the Monk tune Crepescule With Nellie (which is listed on the cover). Maybe you explained this when you announced it. I feel terrible about missing the live show... I apologize to you and to all the people heading outsward.
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