WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from February 17, 2019

Listener comments!
	🥁 8:48am duke: You'll find me napping in the back until the show starts
	8:58am listener james from westwood: ::gently nudges duke in 2 minutes::
	🥁 8:59am duke: Huh, what? I'm awake
	🥁 9:00am duke: I was just resting my eyes
	9:04am TDK60: Morning out-destined.
	🥁 9:06am hyde: hello?
	🥁 9:06am hyde: ah, there's Roscoe
	🥁 9:07am doctorjazz: Hi this doesn't sound right .. Ah, there it is!
	9:09am Jeff Golick: Hi! Hello there!
	9:10am Listener Gregory: Got my tatas, waiting for the matoes.
	🥁 9:11am hyde: Threadgill tribute. nice!
	9:12am TDK60: WKCR has great music. Yesterday I listened to their reggae, then soul, then blues hours.
	🥁 9:12am doctorjazz: Looking forward to the Threadgill tribute.
	9:13am Listener Gregory: Please keep the rustling down during the Threadgill!
	9:14am TDK60: ...and turn your cell phones off!
	🥁 9:16am doctorjazz: Pretty vocal, reminds me a bit of Petra Haden...
	🥁 9:16am doctorjazz: Of course , it predates her quite a bit
	9:17am Jeff Golick: Norma Winstone is one of the vocalists.
	🥁 9:20am doctorjazz: WKCR is where I cut my teeth radio-wise, but I'm at FMU mostly these days (find the student DJ's difficult to listen to sometimes, and then there's Schapp...)
	9:20am Stanley: I've managed to escape the in-laws, while they're at the cinema. Thank god, your show is just what I need, Jeff.
	9:23am TDK60: I have one E. Weber album: Yellow Fields. Wonderfully melancholic.
	9:23am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Stanley. Will try not to invoke the in-laws.
	9:24am Jeff Golick: Proper hellos to: @duke @listener james from westwood @TDK60 @hyde @Listener Gregory @doctorjazz !!
	9:27am TDK60: Jazzy Doc: yeah, of course Woofmoo Univ. is the best. And KCR is also an oasis, compared to most other radio.
	9:29am Listener Gregory: I feel bad that I never gave a proper hello, Jeff. If my mother were alive, she'd be horrified.
	9:30am Jeff Golick: I like improper hellos, too.
	9:30am Listener Gregory: I think "Orly-Ivato" is "Tatas-Matoes" translated into Serbian. I could be wrong though.
	🥁 9:31am doctorjazz: Agreed TDK60! In the NY area ,there's not much else I can listen to WBGO on the background, NYC for news, sports radio, and that's it.
	9:33am TDK60: Doc: sometimes WNYU FM has adventurous shows, an Arabic music one, etc. NYC radio is not bad compared to...some other places..
	🥁 9:34am doctorjazz: No, for what it does, WNYC is great
	9:35am Jeff Golick: What were y'all saying about good radio...?
	🥁 9:36am doctorjazz: Once upon a time WNYC actually had a good amount of interesting music programming, but now all that's left of that is New Sounds.
	🥁 9:38am doctorjazz: Haven't checked out WNYU, though , college?
	9:38am Jeff Golick: (I think @TDK60 is noting NYU's station, not WNYC.)
	9:39am TDK60: ..was talking @ WNYU, am not familiar with WNYC. I do listen to WBGO once in a while. But it's about 85-90% FMU for me.
	9:42am Jeff Golick: When I commute to Long Island, from Brooklyn, by car, I listen to the WFMU fm signal for as long as possible, lose it in outer Queens, then shift over to KCR or NYC, which have stronger signals. When I think of it, I start listening to FMU via app, but my cassette radio aux converter is not working, so it's just the phone speaker.
	9:43am TDK60: NYU a college station sharing the 89.1 FM signal with WFDU. Oh! and, being a lefty, I do listen to WBAI some too; but back to Drummer Radio here...
	9:44am Scraps: ——— asleep, aaaaaaeeee, yup yup yup yup. Yawn. In my sleep state, I heard Threadgill. My nose directed me here. (Threadgill! Threadgill! Threadgill!)
	🥁 9:44am doctorjazz: Ahh, I see, it used to be a radio station that only broadcast near NYU, they boosted the signal some 10+ years ago. Brooklyn College had a radio station like that when I was there.. You could hear it in a radius of a few blocks near the college .
	🥁 9:45am doctorjazz: And now, they can all be on line .
	9:47am Listener Gregory: If Todos Santos would play Tatas-Matoes, I could die happy.
	9:48am Jeff Golick: @Scraaaaaaaaaps!
	9:50am Scraps: @Jeff Gggggggggg!
	9:52am listener james from westwood: Yay, Scraps! I heard "Eberhard Weber" and thought it might have been a reference to Eberhard-Faber pencils. I brake for writing utensils.
	9:58am Jeff Golick: What's your pencil of choice, @ljfw?
	10:00am Listener Gregory: I have this record (Lost) and have no memory of this track whatsoever. Also, where are my pants?
	10:00am Jeff Golick: PS. This is a great store for the pencil-curious: cwpencils.com
	10:01am Scraps: [ecstatic smile]
	10:04am Scraps: Flute Force 4!
	10:05am Dean: As is this Berkeley supplier to students in the architecture program: http://www.theinkstone.com/ In Southern California, B&W (as in black and white) was the go-to architecture supply store.
	10:08am Listener Gregory: The pencil perfume is sold out at cwpencils, Jeff. Why did you raise my hopes, only to dash them?
	10:09am Jeff Golick: Hello, @Dean, good morning. Love a good pen store.
	🥁 10:09am doctorjazz: I also have Lost .., and didn't remember the track interesting
	🥁 10:10am doctorjazz: Love the Sextette!
	10:13am Jeff Golick: I think "Great Wall" must've only been on the CD release, not the original LP?
	10:13am Scraps: This is beautiful. Still, after hundreds of plays.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: Man, is this a great track (Soft Suicide...)
	10:16am sit n squeeze: ever felt like youd pooed yourself but u werent 100% sure?
	10:18am Listener Gregory: This is a classic.
	🥁 10:20am doctorjazz: As is this... Such a fabulous group !
	🥁 10:20am hyde: i love this record
	10:21am Dean: Pens, pencils, straight-edges, compasses, graph paper with r-e-a-l-l-y tiny cells, erasers, t-squares... I've taken a couple drafting classes in my time, and I originally prepared to go to architecture school, until I realized I have no talent for visualization. Realized I really wanted to be an architectural historian, which I'm not.
	10:21am sit n squeeze: what's brown and sticky? my white underpants
	10:23am Jeff Golick: Were these records big in the 80s when they came out, I wonder?
	10:24am Scraps: The first side of Easily Slip is ecstatic, first to last. Wrapped yourself in New Orleans.
	10:24am sit n squeeze: Pens, pencils, straight-edges, compasses, graph paper with r-e-a-l-l-y tiny cells, erasers, t-squares... I've taken a couple potty classes in my time, and I originally prepared to go to the bathroom, until I realized I have no talent for finding it. Realized I really wanted to be a scat historian, which I am.
	10:25am Listener Gregory: I bought them back in the 80s, Jeff, which is not an answer. But he did have a record contract and was able to regularly put out albums. They certainly were well received, so I think he did ok. Not Kenny G level of course.
	10:26am Scraps: Jeff G, well, RCA let them go out of print quickly. Stupid RCA
	🥁 10:26am hyde: i bought "Easily Slip" when it came out. I remember it having some cachet, but not necessarily "big"
	10:27am sit n squeeze: talking of easily slip...well, i'll leave that to your imagination
	10:30am Listener Gregory: The men's pencil sweater is also sold out. This is heartbreaking.
	10:31am Scraps: And my very favorite, You Know the Number. Ten favorite alltime for anything
	🥁 10:31am doctorjazz: I had all of them .. They were critically well received , and the Sextette could fill a decent sized club (saw them a number of times, think once in Sounds of Brazil...)
	10:31am Dean: Review of When Was That, Musician magazine (Oct. 1, 1982): "It's easily one of the strongest entries of the year, and the other day its distributor told me he expects it to do real well and sell about 3,000 copies..."
	10:34am Jeff Golick: Do real well! Wow.
	10:35am Scraps: That was before RCA, the first real non-Air album... he was still slotted an avant-garde
	10:36am Listener Gregory: A lot of independent labels are printing only 500 CDs now, I believe. If it does do "real well," they run out.
	10:38am Scraps: Still gorgeous!
	🥁 10:39am doctorjazz: Doing well is relative, of course... Another great band (getting kind of redundant here). I go back far enough to have seen Air.
	🥁 10:40am doctorjazz: Still have all the vinyl releases of these records
	🥁 10:45am hyde: @doc man, i was a huge Air fan but never saw them.
	10:52am Stanley: Henry 'Pigbag' Threadgill? Digging!
	10:52am Scraps: He said (alternately) the Sextette was two drummers but only one drum part? Sort of, like you said. Anyway, he also said the band was the sextet: him, and the band (Threadgill, and the sextet)
	10:54am Jeff Golick: @Scraps: ah, Threadgill and the band = the extra T! That makes sense.
	🥁 10:54am doctorjazz: Downtown Manhattan, caught lots of these guys, Lester Bowie, Arthur Blythe (the In The Tradition band was a great show, as was the tuba band) a bunch of others .. Was an exciting time.
	10:55am Listener Gregory: I'm guessing there's no personnel listing on this?
	10:55am chresti at work: Sounds good...
	10:55am Jeff Golick: Deidre Murray is ripping this cello solo.
	🥁 10:56am doctorjazz: I remember reading that explanation as well, of the 2 drummers being counted as 1. They never played the same patterns though
	10:56am Jeff Golick: Hey, @chresti, good morning!
	🥁 10:57am doctorjazz: Great Boot!
	10:57am Scraps: I saw Billy Bang lots in downtown jazz in those days, too
	10:57am alanr: It's wonderful to listen to Threadgill and friends here in sunny and quite warm Mexico City. Good morning, Jeff!
	🥁 10:57am hyde: @doc those guys almost never made it to Boston, sadly. i did see a few in Amherst, since they had a forward thinking music program (with teachers like Max Roach, Archie Shepp, Marion Brown)
	10:58am Jeff Golick: Morning, @alanr!
	11:00am Jeff Golick: @LG: this discographical page for Threadgill [discography.backstrom.se... notes the following for these recordings (which are also up at youtube): On four clips from Hamburg, we see Henry conducting. The first clip finds Bob Stewart on tuba and Booker T. soloing on tenor sax. The right clip finds Ted Daniel soloing on trumpet and John Stubblefield on soprano sax. The third clip is dominated by Craig Harris' trombone, followed by Sherri Scott's and Drew Richards' singing. This duo continues on the fourth clip, followed by Jerome Harris on bass guitar and John Stubblefield's return, this time on tenor sax. Drummer (to the right) is Reggie Nicholson and I think the percussionist is Roberto Maldonado.
	11:01am chresti at work: listening via itunes
	11:02am Listener Gregory: Thanks, Jeff. Impressive that Hamburg found the money to bring the group over there.
	11:04am Jeff Golick: Was part of a festival, I think.
	11:04am Doug Schulkind: Happy Henry Threadgill’s birthday, everyone!
	11:06am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff,Doug, OUTies
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug! And to you. Here's that Threadgill interview that Ethan Iverson did (for BBC radio):ethaniverson.com...
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Hey, @coelacanth∅!
	11:06am coelacanth∅: rest in peace Ken Nordine.
	11:08am Jeff Golick: Yeah, @coel. 99!? A little too much RIP-ing lately, for my tastes.
	🥁 11:10am doctorjazz: discography.backstrom.se... Looks pretty thorough, and interesting.
	11:10am coelacanth∅: yeah, so young! i think he was professionally active until very recently too, if i'm not mistaken.
	11:11am Stanley: This is fun!
	🥁 11:13am hyde: cutting out early to eat some Osaka style ramen. thanks for the tunes!
	11:13am coelacanth∅: (no clickystars available)
	11:14am Jeff Golick: Bye, @hyde! Happy noodling.
	11:15am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @coel. Should be seeing stars now.
	🥁 11:15am doctorjazz: This is great! And very danceable.
	11:15am coelacanth∅: i was eating coelacanth style ramen yesterday when Mayuko played that track about the donner party. had to finish it quickly!
	11:16am coelacanth∅: ciao hyde
	🥁 11:17am doctorjazz: Have fun, Hyde!
	11:18am Dave in Vermont: Hey, i just finished reading Black is the Body by Emily Bernard. She thanks Ethan Iverson for "creative and intellectual support" in the acknowledgements which I just read during this show. A quick search of both their names led to a page on the same wordpress blog that contains the Threadgill interview you linked to. Cool confluence. The book is beautiful by the way.
	11:18am coelacanth∅: haha now you get 3 for the price of 1! it's okay, likely anyone clicking one star would like all 3 tracks anyway.
	11:19am Jeff Golick: Oh, nice, @Dave. Thanks for the rec, and good to see you!
	11:19am Scraps: A couple of good science fiction people died in the upper half of the nineties in the last week, too: Carol Emshwiller, a avantgarde writer, and publisher Betty Balllentine (Ballentine, Bantam), both of them I knew. But at least, if you’re going to die, 97 or 98 is good to reach!
	🥁 11:22am doctorjazz: Sad this band doesn't have official recordings. Just see the YouTube clips.
	11:22am Dave in Vermont: She and her husband are professors up here at UVM; I took a class with him, and used to let her into her office when she got locked out and I was doing my work-study in the admin office of the English Dept.
	11:23am Jeff Golick: @Scraps, thanks for that. I did read the Ballentine obit; quite a literary life. You knew her? V cool.
	11:24am Scraps: New York science fiction publishing world is very small....
	11:25am Listener Gregory: There is a definite beat to all these pieces, but could you actually DANCE to them?
	11:26am Scraps: This was (again) “Black Hands Bejeweled “, I think
	11:27am Scraps: The third one....
	🥁 11:27am doctorjazz: The last tune sounded easily danceable.
	11:27am Dave in Vermont: Have you all heard of (Beranrd's husband) John Gennari? He writes about jazz. I haven't read his stuff, except for a piece he wrote about Do The Right Thing.Bernard also wrote a book about Carl Van Vechten and the Harlem Renaissance.
	11:30am Jeff Golick: Oh, thank you, @Scraps.
	11:31am Jeff Golick: @Dave: I've heard of Gennari, but have not read anything.
	🥁 11:32am doctorjazz: Really loved Miller's last album ,this sounds like a winner as wel(and y'know, it follows Threadgill beautifully! Give the DJ some !)
	11:32am Jeff Golick: I was just given Hanif Abdurraqib's book on Tribe Called Quest, which I am excited about reading.
	11:36am Doug Schulkind: My pops was two months shy of 98 when he died. His 100th is coming up this September. We had this running joke long into his dementia. When I would greet him he’d say, “I’m getting old.” And I’d say, “how old are you?,” and he’d say, “I’m shooting for 100,” and I’d say, “you have pretty good aim,” and we’d both laugh.
	11:38am Jeff Golick: Aw...
	11:39am Listener Gregory: The Lewis also follows well from Threadgill. @Doug, great story.
	11:42am Jeff Golick: Bass on this Lewis is Luke Stewart, who David W. played on a recent Ridgewood Radio.
	11:43am Jeff Golick: et voila: wfmu.org...
	11:43am JtotheK: Quick saying hello - digging the show Jeff, ahoy everyone.
	🥁 11:43am doctorjazz: OK, ordered the Miller album (looks like it was just released, I mean like the past day or so )
	11:44am Jeff Golick: Hey, @JtotheeverlovinK!
	11:45am Jeff Golick: Oh it's a good one, @doc.
	🥁 11:48am doctorjazz: Hard to find it only available on the label site .
	11:51am Jeff Golick: Miller's bandcamp page has it (though you prefer physical?): allisonmiller.bandcamp.com...
	🥁 11:54am doctorjazz: Yeah still prefer physical media (with a download option is best). Amazon also had the download version only. I bought the LP. (the last Boom Tic... Did include the download, I believe
	11:56am Doug Schulkind: Dear God is this gorgeous!
	11:56am coelacanth∅: Doug @11.36 that's beautiful. my father had pretty good aim too, i guess; but he didn't aim as high.
	🥁 11:59am doctorjazz: This is great , terrific show for that matter! Thanks ,Jeff. Great week all!
	12:01pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @doc! Same to you.
	12:02pm Stanley: Thanks Jeff. Always a weekend treat for us all. Take care, brother.
	12:03pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Stanely. Good luck with the fam.
	12:03pm Stanley: This reminds me I haven't had liver in a while.
	12:04pm coelacanth∅: i still have my liver, such as it is.
	12:05pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Jeff!!
	12:06pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff! Brilliant as always! take care, good ones
	12:08pm Listener Gregory: An impression of brown rice by Jeff Golick: excellent!
	12:10pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @coel, @ljfw, @LG...take care, one and all!
	12:10pm Doug Schulkind: Beautiful offering, Jeff. Or, just another Sunday morning.
	12:11pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug!
	🥁 10:59pm Granny Spicy Tuna: i was so far OUT i wasn't IN until this Eternal Now. Listening to the archives, and digging it completely!
	11:50am Jeff Golick: Yay, @GST! Thanks for listening & commenting!

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February 17, 2019: An impression of Henry Threadgill, et al.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:32 (Pop-up)
Eberhard Weber	Fluid Rustle "Fluid Rustle" by "Eberhard Weber"	Fluid Rustle	ECM	1979		0:06:15 (Pop-up)
Jean-Charles Capon / Philippe Maté / Lawrence "Butch" Morris / Serge Rahoerson ‎	Blues for Guy Labory	Capon - Morris - Maté - Rahoerson	Palm	1977		0:13:10 (Pop-up)
Jean-Charles Capon / Philippe Maté / Lawrence "Butch" Morris / Serge Rahoerson ‎	Orly - Ivato	Capon - Morris - Maté - Rahoerson	Palm	1977		0:19:14 (Pop-up)
Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris	Part Two	Current Trends in Racism in Modern America (A Work in Progress)	Sound Aspects	1985		0:26:02 (Pop-up)
Wayne Horvitz / Butch Morris / Robert Previte	The Road to Zamora	Todos Santos: Play Robin Holcomb				0:38:49 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					0:43:26 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill	The Great Hall "The Great Hall" by "Henry Threadgill"	Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Weill	A&M Records	1987		0:50:27 (Pop-up)
David Virelles	Water, Bird Headed Mistress	Antenna EP	ECM	2016	feat. Henry Threadgill	0:54:21 (Pop-up)
Flute Force 4	Paseo Del Mar "Paseo Del Mar" by "Flute Force 4"	Flutistry	Black Saint	1997	feat. Henry Threadgill	0:56:30 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Sextett	Soft Suicide at the Baths	When Was That?	About Time	1982		1:02:12 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Sextett	Black Hands Bejewelled	Easily Slip into Another World	RCA/Novus	1988		1:13:15 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Sextett	Silver and Gold, Baby, Silver and Gold	You Know the Number	Novus	1986		1:20:31 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill & Very Very Circus	Dirty in the Right Places	Makin' a Move	Columbia	1995		1:25:59 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					1:34:10 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill's Society Situation Dance Band	[unknown]	1988.10.23 - Hamburg	[boot]	1988		1:41:35 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill's Society Situation Dance Band	[unknown]	1988.10.23 - Hamburg	[boot]	1988		1:57:32 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill's Society Situation Dance Band	[unknown]	1988.10.23 - Hamburg	[boot]	1988		2:05:48 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dick Khoza	Lilongwe "Lilongwe" by "Dick Khoza"					2:18:32 (Pop-up)
Allison Miller's Boom Tic Boom	The Ride	Glitter Wolf	The Royal Potato Family	2019		2:22:09 (Pop-up)
James Brandon Lewis	Sir Real Denard	An UnRuly Manifesto	Relative Pitch Records	2019		2:29:45 (Pop-up)
Binker and Moses	The Valley of the Ultra Blacks	Journey to the Mountain of Forever	Gearbox	2017		2:38:19 (Pop-up)
DKV Trio + Joe McPhee	An Impression of Brown Rice by Don Cherry	The Fire Each Time	Not Two	2019		2:42:08 (Pop-up)
Eave	Liver-Eating "Liver-Eating" by "Eave"	Eave	Astral Spirits / Monofonus Press	2018		2:51:59 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:57:47 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 8:48am duke: You'll find me napping in the back until the show starts
	8:58am listener james from westwood: ::gently nudges duke in 2 minutes::
	🥁 8:59am duke: Huh, what? I'm awake
	🥁 9:00am duke: I was just resting my eyes
	9:04am TDK60: Morning out-destined.
	🥁 9:06am hyde: hello?
	🥁 9:06am hyde: ah, there's Roscoe
	🥁 9:07am doctorjazz: Hi this doesn't sound right .. Ah, there it is!
	9:09am Jeff Golick: Hi! Hello there!
	9:10am Listener Gregory: Got my tatas, waiting for the matoes.
	🥁 9:11am hyde: Threadgill tribute. nice!
	9:12am TDK60: WKCR has great music. Yesterday I listened to their reggae, then soul, then blues hours.
	🥁 9:12am doctorjazz: Looking forward to the Threadgill tribute.
	9:13am Listener Gregory: Please keep the rustling down during the Threadgill!
	9:14am TDK60: ...and turn your cell phones off!
	🥁 9:16am doctorjazz: Pretty vocal, reminds me a bit of Petra Haden...
	🥁 9:16am doctorjazz: Of course , it predates her quite a bit
	9:17am Jeff Golick: Norma Winstone is one of the vocalists.
	🥁 9:20am doctorjazz: WKCR is where I cut my teeth radio-wise, but I'm at FMU mostly these days (find the student DJ's difficult to listen to sometimes, and then there's Schapp...)
	9:20am Stanley: I've managed to escape the in-laws, while they're at the cinema. Thank god, your show is just what I need, Jeff.
	9:23am TDK60: I have one E. Weber album: Yellow Fields. Wonderfully melancholic.
	9:23am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Stanley. Will try not to invoke the in-laws.
	9:24am Jeff Golick: Proper hellos to: @duke @listener james from westwood @TDK60 @hyde @Listener Gregory @doctorjazz !!
	9:27am TDK60: Jazzy Doc: yeah, of course Woofmoo Univ. is the best. And KCR is also an oasis, compared to most other radio.
	9:29am Listener Gregory: I feel bad that I never gave a proper hello, Jeff. If my mother were alive, she'd be horrified.
	9:30am Jeff Golick: I like improper hellos, too.
	9:30am Listener Gregory: I think "Orly-Ivato" is "Tatas-Matoes" translated into Serbian. I could be wrong though.
	🥁 9:31am doctorjazz: Agreed TDK60! In the NY area ,there's not much else I can listen to WBGO on the background, NYC for news, sports radio, and that's it.
	9:33am TDK60: Doc: sometimes WNYU FM has adventurous shows, an Arabic music one, etc. NYC radio is not bad compared to...some other places..
	🥁 9:34am doctorjazz: No, for what it does, WNYC is great
	9:35am Jeff Golick: What were y'all saying about good radio...?
	🥁 9:36am doctorjazz: Once upon a time WNYC actually had a good amount of interesting music programming, but now all that's left of that is New Sounds.
	🥁 9:38am doctorjazz: Haven't checked out WNYU, though , college?
	9:38am Jeff Golick: (I think @TDK60 is noting NYU's station, not WNYC.)
	9:39am TDK60: ..was talking @ WNYU, am not familiar with WNYC. I do listen to WBGO once in a while. But it's about 85-90% FMU for me.
	9:42am Jeff Golick: When I commute to Long Island, from Brooklyn, by car, I listen to the WFMU fm signal for as long as possible, lose it in outer Queens, then shift over to KCR or NYC, which have stronger signals. When I think of it, I start listening to FMU via app, but my cassette radio aux converter is not working, so it's just the phone speaker.
	9:43am TDK60: NYU a college station sharing the 89.1 FM signal with WFDU. Oh! and, being a lefty, I do listen to WBAI some too; but back to Drummer Radio here...
	9:44am Scraps: ——— asleep, aaaaaaeeee, yup yup yup yup. Yawn. In my sleep state, I heard Threadgill. My nose directed me here. (Threadgill! Threadgill! Threadgill!)
	🥁 9:44am doctorjazz: Ahh, I see, it used to be a radio station that only broadcast near NYU, they boosted the signal some 10+ years ago. Brooklyn College had a radio station like that when I was there.. You could hear it in a radius of a few blocks near the college .
	🥁 9:45am doctorjazz: And now, they can all be on line .
	9:47am Listener Gregory: If Todos Santos would play Tatas-Matoes, I could die happy.
	9:48am Jeff Golick: @Scraaaaaaaaaps!
	9:50am Scraps: @Jeff Gggggggggg!
	9:52am listener james from westwood: Yay, Scraps! I heard "Eberhard Weber" and thought it might have been a reference to Eberhard-Faber pencils. I brake for writing utensils.
	9:58am Jeff Golick: What's your pencil of choice, @ljfw?
	10:00am Listener Gregory: I have this record (Lost) and have no memory of this track whatsoever. Also, where are my pants?
	10:00am Jeff Golick: PS. This is a great store for the pencil-curious: cwpencils.com
	10:01am Scraps: [ecstatic smile]
	10:04am Scraps: Flute Force 4!
	10:05am Dean: As is this Berkeley supplier to students in the architecture program: http://www.theinkstone.com/ In Southern California, B&W (as in black and white) was the go-to architecture supply store.
	10:08am Listener Gregory: The pencil perfume is sold out at cwpencils, Jeff. Why did you raise my hopes, only to dash them?
	10:09am Jeff Golick: Hello, @Dean, good morning. Love a good pen store.
	🥁 10:09am doctorjazz: I also have Lost .., and didn't remember the track interesting
	🥁 10:10am doctorjazz: Love the Sextette!
	10:13am Jeff Golick: I think "Great Wall" must've only been on the CD release, not the original LP?
	10:13am Scraps: This is beautiful. Still, after hundreds of plays.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: Man, is this a great track (Soft Suicide...)
	10:16am sit n squeeze: ever felt like youd pooed yourself but u werent 100% sure?
	10:18am Listener Gregory: This is a classic.
	🥁 10:20am doctorjazz: As is this... Such a fabulous group !
	🥁 10:20am hyde: i love this record
	10:21am Dean: Pens, pencils, straight-edges, compasses, graph paper with r-e-a-l-l-y tiny cells, erasers, t-squares... I've taken a couple drafting classes in my time, and I originally prepared to go to architecture school, until I realized I have no talent for visualization. Realized I really wanted to be an architectural historian, which I'm not.
	10:21am sit n squeeze: what's brown and sticky? my white underpants
	10:23am Jeff Golick: Were these records big in the 80s when they came out, I wonder?
	10:24am Scraps: The first side of Easily Slip is ecstatic, first to last. Wrapped yourself in New Orleans.
	10:24am sit n squeeze: Pens, pencils, straight-edges, compasses, graph paper with r-e-a-l-l-y tiny cells, erasers, t-squares... I've taken a couple potty classes in my time, and I originally prepared to go to the bathroom, until I realized I have no talent for finding it. Realized I really wanted to be a scat historian, which I am.
	10:25am Listener Gregory: I bought them back in the 80s, Jeff, which is not an answer. But he did have a record contract and was able to regularly put out albums. They certainly were well received, so I think he did ok. Not Kenny G level of course.
	10:26am Scraps: Jeff G, well, RCA let them go out of print quickly. Stupid RCA
	🥁 10:26am hyde: i bought "Easily Slip" when it came out. I remember it having some cachet, but not necessarily "big"
	10:27am sit n squeeze: talking of easily slip...well, i'll leave that to your imagination
	10:30am Listener Gregory: The men's pencil sweater is also sold out. This is heartbreaking.
	10:31am Scraps: And my very favorite, You Know the Number. Ten favorite alltime for anything
	🥁 10:31am doctorjazz: I had all of them .. They were critically well received , and the Sextette could fill a decent sized club (saw them a number of times, think once in Sounds of Brazil...)
	10:31am Dean: Review of When Was That, Musician magazine (Oct. 1, 1982): "It's easily one of the strongest entries of the year, and the other day its distributor told me he expects it to do real well and sell about 3,000 copies..."
	10:34am Jeff Golick: Do real well! Wow.
	10:35am Scraps: That was before RCA, the first real non-Air album... he was still slotted an avant-garde
	10:36am Listener Gregory: A lot of independent labels are printing only 500 CDs now, I believe. If it does do "real well," they run out.
	10:38am Scraps: Still gorgeous!
	🥁 10:39am doctorjazz: Doing well is relative, of course... Another great band (getting kind of redundant here). I go back far enough to have seen Air.
	🥁 10:40am doctorjazz: Still have all the vinyl releases of these records
	🥁 10:45am hyde: @doc man, i was a huge Air fan but never saw them.
	10:52am Stanley: Henry 'Pigbag' Threadgill? Digging!
	10:52am Scraps: He said (alternately) the Sextette was two drummers but only one drum part? Sort of, like you said. Anyway, he also said the band was the sextet: him, and the band (Threadgill, and the sextet)
	10:54am Jeff Golick: @Scraps: ah, Threadgill and the band = the extra T! That makes sense.
	🥁 10:54am doctorjazz: Downtown Manhattan, caught lots of these guys, Lester Bowie, Arthur Blythe (the In The Tradition band was a great show, as was the tuba band) a bunch of others .. Was an exciting time.
	10:55am Listener Gregory: I'm guessing there's no personnel listing on this?
	10:55am chresti at work: Sounds good...
	10:55am Jeff Golick: Deidre Murray is ripping this cello solo.
	🥁 10:56am doctorjazz: I remember reading that explanation as well, of the 2 drummers being counted as 1. They never played the same patterns though
	10:56am Jeff Golick: Hey, @chresti, good morning!
	🥁 10:57am doctorjazz: Great Boot!
	10:57am Scraps: I saw Billy Bang lots in downtown jazz in those days, too
	10:57am alanr: It's wonderful to listen to Threadgill and friends here in sunny and quite warm Mexico City. Good morning, Jeff!
	🥁 10:57am hyde: @doc those guys almost never made it to Boston, sadly. i did see a few in Amherst, since they had a forward thinking music program (with teachers like Max Roach, Archie Shepp, Marion Brown)
	10:58am Jeff Golick: Morning, @alanr!
	11:00am Jeff Golick: @LG: this discographical page for Threadgill [discography.backstrom.se... notes the following for these recordings (which are also up at youtube): On four clips from Hamburg, we see Henry conducting. The first clip finds Bob Stewart on tuba and Booker T. soloing on tenor sax. The right clip finds Ted Daniel soloing on trumpet and John Stubblefield on soprano sax. The third clip is dominated by Craig Harris' trombone, followed by Sherri Scott's and Drew Richards' singing. This duo continues on the fourth clip, followed by Jerome Harris on bass guitar and John Stubblefield's return, this time on tenor sax. Drummer (to the right) is Reggie Nicholson and I think the percussionist is Roberto Maldonado.
	11:01am chresti at work: listening via itunes
	11:02am Listener Gregory: Thanks, Jeff. Impressive that Hamburg found the money to bring the group over there.
	11:04am Jeff Golick: Was part of a festival, I think.
	11:04am Doug Schulkind: Happy Henry Threadgill’s birthday, everyone!
	11:06am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff,Doug, OUTies
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug! And to you. Here's that Threadgill interview that Ethan Iverson did (for BBC radio):ethaniverson.com...
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Hey, @coelacanth∅!
	11:06am coelacanth∅: rest in peace Ken Nordine.
	11:08am Jeff Golick: Yeah, @coel. 99!? A little too much RIP-ing lately, for my tastes.
	🥁 11:10am doctorjazz: discography.backstrom.se... Looks pretty thorough, and interesting.
	11:10am coelacanth∅: yeah, so young! i think he was professionally active until very recently too, if i'm not mistaken.
	11:11am Stanley: This is fun!
	🥁 11:13am hyde: cutting out early to eat some Osaka style ramen. thanks for the tunes!
	11:13am coelacanth∅: (no clickystars available)
	11:14am Jeff Golick: Bye, @hyde! Happy noodling.
	11:15am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @coel. Should be seeing stars now.
	🥁 11:15am doctorjazz: This is great! And very danceable.
	11:15am coelacanth∅: i was eating coelacanth style ramen yesterday when Mayuko played that track about the donner party. had to finish it quickly!
	11:16am coelacanth∅: ciao hyde
	🥁 11:17am doctorjazz: Have fun, Hyde!
	11:18am Dave in Vermont: Hey, i just finished reading Black is the Body by Emily Bernard. She thanks Ethan Iverson for "creative and intellectual support" in the acknowledgements which I just read during this show. A quick search of both their names led to a page on the same wordpress blog that contains the Threadgill interview you linked to. Cool confluence. The book is beautiful by the way.
	11:18am coelacanth∅: haha now you get 3 for the price of 1! it's okay, likely anyone clicking one star would like all 3 tracks anyway.
	11:19am Jeff Golick: Oh, nice, @Dave. Thanks for the rec, and good to see you!
	11:19am Scraps: A couple of good science fiction people died in the upper half of the nineties in the last week, too: Carol Emshwiller, a avantgarde writer, and publisher Betty Balllentine (Ballentine, Bantam), both of them I knew. But at least, if you’re going to die, 97 or 98 is good to reach!
	🥁 11:22am doctorjazz: Sad this band doesn't have official recordings. Just see the YouTube clips.
	11:22am Dave in Vermont: She and her husband are professors up here at UVM; I took a class with him, and used to let her into her office when she got locked out and I was doing my work-study in the admin office of the English Dept.
	11:23am Jeff Golick: @Scraps, thanks for that. I did read the Ballentine obit; quite a literary life. You knew her? V cool.
	11:24am Scraps: New York science fiction publishing world is very small....
	11:25am Listener Gregory: There is a definite beat to all these pieces, but could you actually DANCE to them?
	11:26am Scraps: This was (again) “Black Hands Bejeweled “, I think
	11:27am Scraps: The third one....
	🥁 11:27am doctorjazz: The last tune sounded easily danceable.
	11:27am Dave in Vermont: Have you all heard of (Beranrd's husband) John Gennari? He writes about jazz. I haven't read his stuff, except for a piece he wrote about Do The Right Thing.Bernard also wrote a book about Carl Van Vechten and the Harlem Renaissance.
	11:30am Jeff Golick: Oh, thank you, @Scraps.
	11:31am Jeff Golick: @Dave: I've heard of Gennari, but have not read anything.
	🥁 11:32am doctorjazz: Really loved Miller's last album ,this sounds like a winner as wel(and y'know, it follows Threadgill beautifully! Give the DJ some !)
	11:32am Jeff Golick: I was just given Hanif Abdurraqib's book on Tribe Called Quest, which I am excited about reading.
	11:36am Doug Schulkind: My pops was two months shy of 98 when he died. His 100th is coming up this September. We had this running joke long into his dementia. When I would greet him he’d say, “I’m getting old.” And I’d say, “how old are you?,” and he’d say, “I’m shooting for 100,” and I’d say, “you have pretty good aim,” and we’d both laugh.
	11:38am Jeff Golick: Aw...
	11:39am Listener Gregory: The Lewis also follows well from Threadgill. @Doug, great story.
	11:42am Jeff Golick: Bass on this Lewis is Luke Stewart, who David W. played on a recent Ridgewood Radio.
	11:43am Jeff Golick: et voila: wfmu.org...
	11:43am JtotheK: Quick saying hello - digging the show Jeff, ahoy everyone.
	🥁 11:43am doctorjazz: OK, ordered the Miller album (looks like it was just released, I mean like the past day or so )
	11:44am Jeff Golick: Hey, @JtotheeverlovinK!
	11:45am Jeff Golick: Oh it's a good one, @doc.
	🥁 11:48am doctorjazz: Hard to find it only available on the label site .
	11:51am Jeff Golick: Miller's bandcamp page has it (though you prefer physical?): allisonmiller.bandcamp.com...
	🥁 11:54am doctorjazz: Yeah still prefer physical media (with a download option is best). Amazon also had the download version only. I bought the LP. (the last Boom Tic... Did include the download, I believe
	11:56am Doug Schulkind: Dear God is this gorgeous!
	11:56am coelacanth∅: Doug @11.36 that's beautiful. my father had pretty good aim too, i guess; but he didn't aim as high.
	🥁 11:59am doctorjazz: This is great , terrific show for that matter! Thanks ,Jeff. Great week all!
	12:01pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @doc! Same to you.
	12:02pm Stanley: Thanks Jeff. Always a weekend treat for us all. Take care, brother.
	12:03pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Stanely. Good luck with the fam.
	12:03pm Stanley: This reminds me I haven't had liver in a while.
	12:04pm coelacanth∅: i still have my liver, such as it is.
	12:05pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Jeff!!
	12:06pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff! Brilliant as always! take care, good ones
	12:08pm Listener Gregory: An impression of brown rice by Jeff Golick: excellent!
	12:10pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @coel, @ljfw, @LG...take care, one and all!
	12:10pm Doug Schulkind: Beautiful offering, Jeff. Or, just another Sunday morning.
	12:11pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug!
	🥁 10:59pm Granny Spicy Tuna: i was so far OUT i wasn't IN until this Eternal Now. Listening to the archives, and digging it completely!
	11:50am Jeff Golick: Yay, @GST! Thanks for listening & commenting!

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