WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 18, 2018

Listener comments!
	🤖 12:08pm herb.nyc: (oh, the commentboard is open?!) as GAMECHANGER is a common term used (tho not as much as in past), i'm not a fan of it. but i'm just being a curmudgeon, i apoloize. ---- did i read that NKorea has a whole buncha kids playing video games, making money for the state, and that money being used to...or am i dreaming. maybe Pres* Trump and Kim Jong-Un discussed this.
	🤖 5:34pm herb.nyc: Fashion alert: I saw young woman w GOOGLE tee. Back said NOOGLER TEAM. I'm curious. (Filed from subway underground)
	6:02pm listener james from westwood: Recalls the supposed Warcraft gold farmers of the Peoples' Republic of China. Hey hey, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:03pm Bas NL: Hi Mark & techtonites!
	6:04pm ultradamno: The Onion reports on new tactics to discourage users from quitting Facebook: www.theonion.com...
	6:05pm Warren in Australia: Hello all. *Laurel
	6:05pm melinda: Hi everyone
	6:06pm queems: oh boy
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and Techtongs. How 'bout the news that China will mandate all new cars to include RFID chips to track where the cars are going?
	6:07pm Fuzzy: Tetris or GTFO
	6:08pm Michael 98145: Barrel-Pong !!
	6:08pm Tommy in Neversink: Wait, WHO is saying online games are addictive ?
	6:08pm melinda: I'm at the Philadelphia airport, where they have replaced half of the regular seating with bar-style counters with mounted iPads. It's kind of sad.
	6:08pm Torbjørn: Diagnosis aren't diseases as such, I think. More like a definition. So that if someone comes into the office and says "I'm ruining my life due to excessive time spent on computer games", we have an agreed-to standard definition of what that means. I think this is a good thing. We should probably investigate social media and it's predatory attention-grabbing practices in the same fashion.
	6:09pm northguineahills: I love video games, but I just don't have time to to play them. I had a friend 7 years ago sell his Starcraft profile for close to $3K.....
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: I watched a Douglas Rushkof docu that talked about e-gaming among young boys (in Korea?).
	6:09pm queems: i hate that instagram is facebook
	6:10pm Michael 98145: y'know what makes me angry this week? going to see a film and being bombarded with pharmaceutical and Facebook commercials before the previews. yes.
	6:10pm northguineahills: have a fun trip, melinda!
	6:11pm ultradamno: Krazy!
	6:11pm Tommy in Neversink: If you have paid for the film you shouldn't have to put up with that
	6:11pm Ghoffman: I just recently permadeleted my facebook and my instagram. i officially have zero social media accounts and i feel so free
	6:11pm Torbjørn: I'd like to add that I think computer game addiction is comparable to gambling addiction. Not exactly similar to drugs, especially the drugs with physical addiction properties.
	🤖 6:12pm Ken From Hyde Park: The band Klown should provide the music for their commercials.
	6:14pm Greg from ZONE 5: Evening, Mark & Tektites!
	6:14pm Carmichael: Like this, Melinda? www.google.com...
	🤖 6:15pm herb.nyc: nyc MTA buses have vid cameras for security. Drivers fear it will be used against them (catching minor infractions, for instance)
	🤖 6:15pm Folsom: I played so many games back in the day I was eaten by a grue.
	6:16pm northguineahills: I've been using duckduck go for over four years...
	6:16pm Carmichael: Defender was my game. Still is, if I could ever find one somewhere ...
	6:17pm northguineahills: what Tommy said....
	6:18pm thedunkel: Yoyoka Soma is fantastic!
	6:18pm thedunkel: www.free80sarcade.com...
	6:19pm melinda: @Carm yes, but it's also in the middle of the gate seating areas. The bathroom soap dispensers and water fountains are out-of-order, too, it's a weird combo of high tech and shabby.
	6:19pm Mac: This is very important. George Saunders wrote a great short story about this
	6:19pm Jack: I've been playing the same game since the early 90's. Am I addicted? Hell yeah!
	🤖 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park: Yet another to-do list of ways to improve ones internet privacy: www.inforum.com...
	6:22pm Carmichael: Blocked at work, thedunkel!
	6:37pm sim: Once you age out of the half-gods' games, the full gods' games arrive. EVE Online, ftw.
	6:38pm geezerette: Hello, Mark,John, gang!
	6:38pm northguineahills: suck, Carmichael, I control the firewall here at work.... (there is no firewall, I prefer anarchy).
	6:38pm Tommy in Neversink: Wait, WHO is saying online games are addictive ?
	6:39pm Phil with the phone: @tommy the world health organization
	6:41pm Tommy in Neversink: WHO ?
	6:41pm queems: third base
	6:41pm Phil with the phone: the world health organization how many times do i have to say it
	6:42pm ultradamno: Who who, who who. I really want to....oh never mind.
	6:42pm Phil with the phone: call me up friends! 201-209-9368 Also torb plz switch or I'm throwing
	6:42pm Tommy in Neversink: Phil...I know
	6:42pm Phil with the phone: @tommy THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
	6:43pm sim: John, Twitch used to be game oriented, but now seems to be dominated by soft porn. Is this a problem?
	6:44pm Buffalo's Tom: Whoooo are you...gaming too much?
	6:44pm listener james from westwood: "your nephew, or your cousin, or your son"—don't forget the nieces and daughters!
	6:44pm Phil with the phone: there's porn on twitch!?
	6:45pm cherish: any thoughts on the future regarding longterm effects on child development from behavioral economics applied in game design?
	6:46pm sim: John, do you think AR games such as Pokemon Go has a brighter future than traditional e-sport games?
	6:46pm listener james from westwood: My point was not just male players, as John had said, but also female ones.
	6:46pm queems: i really liked pokemon go
	🤖 6:47pm Ken From Hyde Park: Does Twitch still have that invincible deer that runs around GTA?
	6:48pm northguineahills: @Ken: That was hilarious when i discovered that!
	6:48pm sim: Phil. Yes, webcam girl kinda stuff with Amazon wish list.
	6:49pm geezerette: Grahame Weinbrun predicted interactivity as the hook in digital media 40 years ago. I may have mispelled his name.
	6:50pm sim: Peacemaker. Not a popular game I guess.
	6:51pm ultradamno: I always liked Centipede and Frogger. Sometimes a nice game of video Mah Jong
	6:52pm sim: John, not everyone with talent gets eaten by the big studios. Steam has indie devs. Stardew Valley, Cuphead, etc.
	6:52pm Phil with the phone: what john was referring to: www.youtube.com...
	6:53pm cherish: slot machines arent particularly 'fun' or great works of art but they get people hooked regardless. neuromarketing/behavioral economics are huge area of r+d in game development. its a huge market and ultimately under capitalism the bottom line is profit extraction. young and unsupervised minds are much more maleable than adults. regulation is miles behind these technologies and techniques.
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: Indeed, my son is an indie gamer developer/writer/designer/composer.
	🤖 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: My college buddies knew some way to scam Galaga machines by pushing a penny into the coin return and play for cheap.
	6:55pm ultradamno: The Residents' game Bad Day On The Midway was fun. The CD Rom of (or Freakshow) doesn't work on any system I have anymore, which is a shame
	6:55pm JakeGould: Late to the party… Just here to say, “Dig Dug” sucks! “Mr. Do!” rules!!!
	6:55pm sim: Dwarf Fortress!!!!
	6:56pm sim: Dwarf Fortress!!!!
	6:56pm Evan from Seattle: Elite Dangerousis a great game.
	6:56pm Phil with the phone: Team Fortress!!!!!
	6:56pm Evan from Seattle: Elite Dangerous, even
	6:56pm northguineahills: In Japan, I would use 10 yen coins in the arcades on base (back then, about 7 cents) b/c they were the same size and weight as quarters....
	6:57pm Tommy in Neversink: Hey ,, maybe all the people addicted to games could be causing trouble if they wernt' gaming ....maybe we should leave them alone
	6:57pm geezerette: Another valuable show! Thanks, Mark and John!
	🤖 6:58pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & John!
	6:59pm geezerette: NGH, I love the sound of Pachinko macines. Never played though.
	10:55pm John Keating: Thank you Mark and all of you Techtonites. I had a great time and am grateful and honored to have been a guest.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 18, 2018

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Mon. Nov 4th, 6pm - 7pm: Dystopia update (More info...)
Chatbots are now running rampant - appearing in new-model cars - as we're being told to "be nice to chatbots." Stores are using "digital price tags," which rely on surveillance to set the price to the company's liking. Meantime, Google's AI is giving wrong answers, in some cases, almost half the time. All these and more in Mark's dystopia update.
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June 18, 2018: John Keating, director, "Gamechangers: Dreams of Blizzcon"

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This week: John Keating, director of the new esports documentary, "Gamechangers: Dreams of Blizzcon":

• Gamechangersdocumentary.com, the film website

• @GamechangersDoc on Twitter

Not in tech news, but...

• Laura Bush on what's happening on the border: "I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart. . . . These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history."

Now on to recent tech news:

• World Health Organization adds gaming disorder to disease classifications: "The WHO on Monday proposed adding gaming disorder to its new comprehensive manual of disease classifications, raising an immediate debate over whether it merits a separate designation."

• In response to a CNBC story that people are switching from Facebook to Instagram and Whatsapp, Paris Martineau writes: "facebook is instagram and whatsapp facebook is instagram and whatsapp ..."

• Update on "building a surveillance state": Amazon shareholders call for halt of facial recognition sales to police.

• On that same topic: Prison bus or rental car shuttle? You make the call, below.

• Break Up Google, says the Boston Globe: "Never in the history of the world has a single company had so much control over what people know and think . . . [and] Google’s power is bound to grow still more. Last year, it spent more on federal lobbying than any other company. By tweaking the way information appears on search pages, Google can already promote its own websites and banish competitors to digital oblivion."

• Our friends at WFMU's In Real Life shared this video of an 8-year-old drumming to Led Zeppelin. There's hope in the next generation!

• Finally: how gaming used to be...

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Artist	Track	Album	Comments	Approx. start time
About esports: John Keating talks about his new documentary, "Gamechangers: Dreams of Blizzcon," about professional Starcraft 2 players from Korea.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with John Keating, director, "Gamechangers"			0:15:00 (Pop-up)
	Your calls and comments 201-209-9368 "Your calls and comments 201-209-9368"			0:35:49 (Pop-up)
RoccoW	Hello "Hello" by "RoccoW"		From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcYuPOMEjw	0:53:01 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🤖 12:08pm herb.nyc: (oh, the commentboard is open?!) as GAMECHANGER is a common term used (tho not as much as in past), i'm not a fan of it. but i'm just being a curmudgeon, i apoloize. ---- did i read that NKorea has a whole buncha kids playing video games, making money for the state, and that money being used to...or am i dreaming. maybe Pres* Trump and Kim Jong-Un discussed this.
	🤖 5:34pm herb.nyc: Fashion alert: I saw young woman w GOOGLE tee. Back said NOOGLER TEAM. I'm curious. (Filed from subway underground)
	6:02pm listener james from westwood: Recalls the supposed Warcraft gold farmers of the Peoples' Republic of China. Hey hey, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:03pm Bas NL: Hi Mark & techtonites!
	6:04pm ultradamno: The Onion reports on new tactics to discourage users from quitting Facebook: www.theonion.com...
	6:05pm Warren in Australia: Hello all. *Laurel
	6:05pm melinda: Hi everyone
	6:06pm queems: oh boy
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and Techtongs. How 'bout the news that China will mandate all new cars to include RFID chips to track where the cars are going?
	6:07pm Fuzzy: Tetris or GTFO
	6:08pm Michael 98145: Barrel-Pong !!
	6:08pm Tommy in Neversink: Wait, WHO is saying online games are addictive ?
	6:08pm melinda: I'm at the Philadelphia airport, where they have replaced half of the regular seating with bar-style counters with mounted iPads. It's kind of sad.
	6:08pm Torbjørn: Diagnosis aren't diseases as such, I think. More like a definition. So that if someone comes into the office and says "I'm ruining my life due to excessive time spent on computer games", we have an agreed-to standard definition of what that means. I think this is a good thing. We should probably investigate social media and it's predatory attention-grabbing practices in the same fashion.
	6:09pm northguineahills: I love video games, but I just don't have time to to play them. I had a friend 7 years ago sell his Starcraft profile for close to $3K.....
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: I watched a Douglas Rushkof docu that talked about e-gaming among young boys (in Korea?).
	6:09pm queems: i hate that instagram is facebook
	6:10pm Michael 98145: y'know what makes me angry this week? going to see a film and being bombarded with pharmaceutical and Facebook commercials before the previews. yes.
	6:10pm northguineahills: have a fun trip, melinda!
	6:11pm ultradamno: Krazy!
	6:11pm Tommy in Neversink: If you have paid for the film you shouldn't have to put up with that
	6:11pm Ghoffman: I just recently permadeleted my facebook and my instagram. i officially have zero social media accounts and i feel so free
	6:11pm Torbjørn: I'd like to add that I think computer game addiction is comparable to gambling addiction. Not exactly similar to drugs, especially the drugs with physical addiction properties.
	🤖 6:12pm Ken From Hyde Park: The band Klown should provide the music for their commercials.
	6:14pm Greg from ZONE 5: Evening, Mark & Tektites!
	6:14pm Carmichael: Like this, Melinda? www.google.com...
	🤖 6:15pm herb.nyc: nyc MTA buses have vid cameras for security. Drivers fear it will be used against them (catching minor infractions, for instance)
	🤖 6:15pm Folsom: I played so many games back in the day I was eaten by a grue.
	6:16pm northguineahills: I've been using duckduck go for over four years...
	6:16pm Carmichael: Defender was my game. Still is, if I could ever find one somewhere ...
	6:17pm northguineahills: what Tommy said....
	6:18pm thedunkel: Yoyoka Soma is fantastic!
	6:18pm thedunkel: www.free80sarcade.com...
	6:19pm melinda: @Carm yes, but it's also in the middle of the gate seating areas. The bathroom soap dispensers and water fountains are out-of-order, too, it's a weird combo of high tech and shabby.
	6:19pm Mac: This is very important. George Saunders wrote a great short story about this
	6:19pm Jack: I've been playing the same game since the early 90's. Am I addicted? Hell yeah!
	🤖 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park: Yet another to-do list of ways to improve ones internet privacy: www.inforum.com...
	6:22pm Carmichael: Blocked at work, thedunkel!
	6:37pm sim: Once you age out of the half-gods' games, the full gods' games arrive. EVE Online, ftw.
	6:38pm geezerette: Hello, Mark,John, gang!
	6:38pm northguineahills: suck, Carmichael, I control the firewall here at work.... (there is no firewall, I prefer anarchy).
	6:38pm Tommy in Neversink: Wait, WHO is saying online games are addictive ?
	6:39pm Phil with the phone: @tommy the world health organization
	6:41pm Tommy in Neversink: WHO ?
	6:41pm queems: third base
	6:41pm Phil with the phone: the world health organization how many times do i have to say it
	6:42pm ultradamno: Who who, who who. I really want to....oh never mind.
	6:42pm Phil with the phone: call me up friends! 201-209-9368 Also torb plz switch or I'm throwing
	6:42pm Tommy in Neversink: Phil...I know
	6:42pm Phil with the phone: @tommy THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
	6:43pm sim: John, Twitch used to be game oriented, but now seems to be dominated by soft porn. Is this a problem?
	6:44pm Buffalo's Tom: Whoooo are you...gaming too much?
	6:44pm listener james from westwood: "your nephew, or your cousin, or your son"—don't forget the nieces and daughters!
	6:44pm Phil with the phone: there's porn on twitch!?
	6:45pm cherish: any thoughts on the future regarding longterm effects on child development from behavioral economics applied in game design?
	6:46pm sim: John, do you think AR games such as Pokemon Go has a brighter future than traditional e-sport games?
	6:46pm listener james from westwood: My point was not just male players, as John had said, but also female ones.
	6:46pm queems: i really liked pokemon go
	🤖 6:47pm Ken From Hyde Park: Does Twitch still have that invincible deer that runs around GTA?
	6:48pm northguineahills: @Ken: That was hilarious when i discovered that!
	6:48pm sim: Phil. Yes, webcam girl kinda stuff with Amazon wish list.
	6:49pm geezerette: Grahame Weinbrun predicted interactivity as the hook in digital media 40 years ago. I may have mispelled his name.
	6:50pm sim: Peacemaker. Not a popular game I guess.
	6:51pm ultradamno: I always liked Centipede and Frogger. Sometimes a nice game of video Mah Jong
	6:52pm sim: John, not everyone with talent gets eaten by the big studios. Steam has indie devs. Stardew Valley, Cuphead, etc.
	6:52pm Phil with the phone: what john was referring to: www.youtube.com...
	6:53pm cherish: slot machines arent particularly 'fun' or great works of art but they get people hooked regardless. neuromarketing/behavioral economics are huge area of r+d in game development. its a huge market and ultimately under capitalism the bottom line is profit extraction. young and unsupervised minds are much more maleable than adults. regulation is miles behind these technologies and techniques.
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: Indeed, my son is an indie gamer developer/writer/designer/composer.
	🤖 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: My college buddies knew some way to scam Galaga machines by pushing a penny into the coin return and play for cheap.
	6:55pm ultradamno: The Residents' game Bad Day On The Midway was fun. The CD Rom of (or Freakshow) doesn't work on any system I have anymore, which is a shame
	6:55pm JakeGould: Late to the party… Just here to say, “Dig Dug” sucks! “Mr. Do!” rules!!!
	6:55pm sim: Dwarf Fortress!!!!
	6:56pm sim: Dwarf Fortress!!!!
	6:56pm Evan from Seattle: Elite Dangerousis a great game.
	6:56pm Phil with the phone: Team Fortress!!!!!
	6:56pm Evan from Seattle: Elite Dangerous, even
	6:56pm northguineahills: In Japan, I would use 10 yen coins in the arcades on base (back then, about 7 cents) b/c they were the same size and weight as quarters....
	6:57pm Tommy in Neversink: Hey ,, maybe all the people addicted to games could be causing trouble if they wernt' gaming ....maybe we should leave them alone
	6:57pm geezerette: Another valuable show! Thanks, Mark and John!
	🤖 6:58pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & John!
	6:59pm geezerette: NGH, I love the sound of Pachinko macines. Never played though.
	10:55pm John Keating: Thank you Mark and all of you Techtonites. I had a great time and am grateful and honored to have been a guest.

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