WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from May 10, 2018

Listener comments!
	9:33pm Trouble: good morning thursday-ites. drum roll: please welcome today's co-host Nina Katchadourian! go to her bandcamp page for links to music: ninakatchadourian.bandcamp.com
	8:47am Webhamster Henry: Hi Trouble and Nina! Nina, play your Ice Cream Headache Song: www.jhhl.net... I'm in a Gamelan, so I think it's oddly authentic and satirical! I also made some songs for the Ice Cream Headache project, which didn't happen when the organizers couldn't get their hands on the ice cream truck they wanted to use.
	9:00am Aaron Working In Newark: Good Morning Trouble
	9:00am N.A.R.D.: Good morning Trouble and Trouble-makers!
	9:00am Aaron Working In Newark: Welcome Nina
	9:01am N.A.R.D.: My goodness, the comments board was up VERY early this week...
	9:01am themutante: Thursday's highlight - Trouble!
	9:01am sphere: hullo Trouble, Nina, and the rest of the Troublers. :)
	9:01am N.A.R.D.: Welcome Nina! Parev, my fellow Armenian!
	9:02am Planet Tyler: WFMU seems to be playing Epic quite a bit these days
	9:05am d rice: Good morning Trouble! Good morning all!
	9:06am d rice: And welcome Nina!
	9:07am steveo: hi Trouble & Nina! I hope there will be radio bee gee lip synching :)
	9:07am BronwynB: hello trouble and nina and everyone :)
	9:09am Matthew: Trouble I love you. You always mention you teach — where? You must be a great teacher.
	9:09am Sem: Hello, Trou ble, welcome Nina, greets, Modern Worlders.
	9:10am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Hi! Going to Poland in July!
	9:10am Webhamster Henry: Trouble teaches LP Album Cover Remixing.
	9:13am Chris from DC: Hello. Yay, Durutti Column.
	9:13am N.A.R.D.: I must've missed that class in the course selection catalog when I was in school, sounds like a fun class
	9:13am northguineahills: Nice Durutti Column! Jealous, Wild Neil. Had to postpone my NYC trip due car maintenance. Have fun (I really want to see Krakow sometime).
	9:14am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble (and her ever-present assistant, Miss Fortune).
	9:17am d rice: Yes! Love this Volta Jazz track!
	9:17am Kerbo in red hook: easing into Thursday is always a pleasure.... thanks trouble.
	9:20am meredith: Morning all! So glad to have a Thursday morning w/no meetings so I can listen in real time rather than later on the archives! :D
	9:23am sphere: never heard of Louise Huebner and that is my loss!
	9:23am queems: brb going 2 witch orgy
	9:24am Webhamster Henry: This kind of disc is why I used to go to the WFMU record fair.
	9:24am Aaron Working In Newark: just decided to join a coven
	9:24am risky: GO TROUBLE!
	9:24am Webhamster Henry: There's an orgy minyan?
	9:25am melinda: hi Trouble, enjoying the vibe
	9:25am The Oscar: Mornin'! I love the fact that I'm hearing Louise Huebner on the radio before 10:00 AM. God bless WFMU.
	9:25am d rice: "plan your orgy with care"--sage advice
	9:25am themutante: Nice transition!
	9:26am MD: GOOD MORNING FREEFORM FREEDOM FIGHTERS!
	9:26am MD: FFF!
	9:26am steveo: les oiseaux love witchcraft
	9:26am themutante: Ha! @d rice
	9:26am sphere: if you invite the required number of guests but some of them don't show up, are you still ok with the cosmos?
	9:27am queems: imagine how sweaty a 22 person orgy would be
	9:27am MD: FFF...ARMY!
	9:28am listener lee: Hi trouble. Excited to hear you and Nina this morning!!
	9:28am MD: are those peas? LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE PEAS!!!
	9:29am d rice: I wonder if those folks in the picture are gathering for an orgy?
	9:33am Webhamster Henry: Yes - Moomins speak Swedish!
	9:36am queems: this is so great
	9:37am queems: this is satan’s bird
	9:38am themutante: This is madness... I love it!
	9:39am The Oscar: This is the best.
	9:39am N.A.R.D.: I'm going to have to replay this for my husband later. He will just die for this recording!
	9:40am Lucky: Oh, those sneaky ghosts!
	9:41am queems: HAHAH i downloaded this pacman theme song on napster when i was 11 because it was marked as “taylor hanson R@RE”
	9:41am EG_Astro: Goodmorning!
	9:42am Aaron Working In Newark: you were 11 when napster was around?? Lucky. @queems
	9:42am queems: @aaron i’m a millennial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
	9:43am exile-on-hicks-st: Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-
	9:43am steveo: luck? or excellent planning?
	9:43am N.A.R.D.: I think I was 13-14 when it was around, queems, you must be the same age as my younger sister
	9:45am Webhamster Henry: M&M represented ... It was the 40th anniversary of Josef's death the other day.
	9:46am queems: @nard i’m 30, so i might have been more like 12
	9:47am N.A.R.D.: I'm 33, my sister is 29
	9:47am N.A.R.D.: Go millennials!
	9:48am Webhamster Henry: Brian and I did a show on April 30th in Poughkeepsie. I made the "other" fansite mentioned on the official maraisandmiranda.org
	9:49am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Aaron-curious. Why join a coven?
	9:49am queems: @nard keeping it real with our iphones and avocado toast
	9:50am MD: Dirty mouths from Sverge!!
	9:51am melinda: Why did avocado toast become a thing?
	9:52am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Advacado toast sounds pretty good right around now. Munching on freshly popped popcorn from Western NY Fun Foods.
	9:52am d rice: What IS avocado toast?
	9:52am queems: @melinda good question- i’m not a fan
	9:53am βrian: I can't imagine toasting avocados is a good idea. Love these loons.
	9:53am d rice: I enjoy avocados, but I can't conceive of them in toast form.
	9:53am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: How about deep-fried advocados?
	9:54am Ken From Hyde Park: I was slicing up a yellow bell pepper for lunch and it looked pretty good, so I ate half of it for breakfast.
	9:55am βrian: I read that a lot of people cut their hands when preparing avocados. I just don't get it. My technique is to use common sense.
	9:55am fred: Hello Trouble and listeners. It's a holiday here in France, so I can listen for a change
	9:56am βrian: Though I have seen folks actually lightly chop into the stone to try to get it out. I don't advise that.
	9:57am SSS: My favorite way to eat an avocado is out of the half shell, with a spoon, and only salt and black pepper. Yum!
	9:58am βrian: @fred: What, another jour férié ? In the U.S. we have a number of holidays where most everyone has to work. Go figure.
	9:58am d rice: Is it true that avocado stones have arsenic?
	10:01am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @D rice-I heard apple pits do. Arsenic can dissolve gold, also. We used it as a gold stripper when electroplating precisely.
	10:01am fred: @βrian: May has 4 over here. There's another one left, but I don't know when. I often learn about the religious ones from coworkers a few days before, or when I mistakenly show up at work and can't get in
	10:01am Dominick: Slits always a fun thing
	10:02am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Corpus Christie is a big holiday in May in Poland.
	10:02am frozen_peas: @d rice: I'd be more concerned about the arsenic in rice.
	10:03am d rice: @Wild Neil--Oh, maybe I was remembering apples. Weird about arsenic and gold.
	10:04am d rice: @frozen_peas--Arsenic probably isn't the worst thing in me. Oh, you were probably talking about food.
	10:04am βrian: I stumbled upon Easter Monday when I was in Avignon. I had no idea. Then I wondered if there might be an Easter Tuesday as well.
	10:05am steveo: really great, Nina K., thanks for being here!
	10:05am d rice: I like the chimes and bells in this track.
	10:05am melinda: Avocado on toast sounds ok, I've just wondered why it came to represent millennial trendiness.
	10:06am SSS: My wife is actually allergic to avocados. Strangest allergy I have ever heard of. They make her violently ill.
	10:07am northguineahills: The arsenic content in apple seeds is so minuscule, you'd need a a couple of gross of apples just to make a slightly effective poison.
	10:07am βrian: Ah, so it's toasted bread with avocado. That sounds like a good after-school snack. Add a squeeze of lime and some coarse salt.
	10:09am northguineahills: I've done open faced sandwiches w/ avocados, but they were Mexi recipes via my wife. (she is technically a millennial, I'm Gen X [7 years her senior])
	10:09am βrian: "Three unlikely things, in combination." That sounds like a kind of koan.
	10:09am northguineahills: @SSS: That is weird, never heard of it!
	10:10am JakeGould: Avocado toast is just regular old cafe $7 toast made with thick bread and it has avocado on it among other things. This brings the cost up to $10 to $12. It allows cafe workers to make lots of money off of something and also provides tons of entertainment as they take, prepare and serve the order.
	10:10am northguineahills: Typhoid Mary ended up at Little Brother Island.
	10:10am steveo: did you know each other in Providence???
	10:11am Webhamster Henry: If you want to read more about Roosevelt Island, my friend Stacy Horn has a book on this subject coming out next week, Damnation Island: www.amazon.com...
	10:11am queems: north brother island
	10:11am SSS: Yes, @northguineahills, it was difficult to believe, but while uncommon, other do have it.
	10:11am frozen_peas: What is really delicious is mashed avocado (plus salt and pepper) mixed with a little olive oil and red pepper flakes, spread on toast. They sell it at Pret but it's easy enough to make it at home for next to nothing.
	10:12am βrian: I love accordion when played in the France/Spanish style. And bandoneon.
	10:12am N.A.R.D.: I've literally never had avocado on toast and I have never owned an iPhone or iPod, I'm a black sheep millenial
	10:12am Roger Roger: So glad you have Nina K on the show. She's one of my faves!
	10:13am northguineahills: My bad, it was North Brother Island for Typhoid Mary.
	10:13am The Oscar: I feel like a lot of the accordion stigma is fading the further we get from Lawrence Welk. For people my age, I think the soprano sax has taken its place.
	10:13am Mick: I love accordion, bandoneon, the whole box of wine!
	10:13am frozen_peas: ditto, Roger Roger. Nina K is an amazing guest!
	10:14am northguineahills: I love Paulina Oliveros style of accordion.
	10:14am fred: @βrian: You're more French than I am. I can't stand accordion, except Pauline Oliveros
	10:14am βrian: As in, "home on the range." That works.
	10:15am Rev. Turnip Druid: FOKES.
	10:16am βrian: A big part of the mission of libraries is to maintain the illusion that books are free. ("Books," that is.)
	10:16am northguineahills: GTDS's Kris Holmes used to live near Marfa, and Little Danny is nearby as well.
	10:16am maestroso: For virtuoso Finnish accordion you can't get much better than Maria Kalaniemi.
	10:16am Davy Gravy: Oh Nina! I love your voice. Still remember you playing around the dinner table with Bill Frisell.
	10:17am karlward: This jingle stuff reminds me of Nilsson. It's awesome.
	10:17am Webhamster Henry: I bet you Oliverosian accordion lovers would also like Guy Klucevsek's work.
	10:17am βrian: Polka-esque accordion leaves me cold. Or lukewarm, anyway.
	10:18am N.A.R.D.: I actually used to very much dislike polka-accordion, but it grew on me like a brain-eating fungus and now I listen to it on purpose
	10:19am Rev. Turnip Druid: @fred: accordion can be marvelous but limiting it to drones. Same for any free-reed instrument. Heroic joy. But played tunefully? Not so much..
	10:20am fred: @Rev: I tend to prefer when instruments are not played tunefully
	10:21am Magda: A little late today, but I hope all is well in the world.
	10:23am Webhamster Henry: Doug Skinner needs more exposure.
	10:24am Rev. Turnip Druid: I discovered much joy in combining harmonicas with bicycle pumps. Oh the tuneless joy..
	10:24am queems: i love this
	10:25am northguineahills: My wife has a over a dozen harmonicas of different sizes and tonalities. (I need to steal them!)
	10:25am N.A.R.D.: This entire show is terrific today. I have so many clicky stars today.
	10:25am EG_Astro: this song is fantastic. "Gatorade in the back of the van"
	10:26am northguineahills: @WebHamster Henry: Of course I love Guy Klucevek's work!
	10:26am fred: @Rev: A guy I know used a bicycle to power a siren, playing trombone while pedaling
	10:26am sphere: One day some rogue DJ will do an entire hour of science-fiction folk song (aka "filk")._
	10:26am Webhamster Henry: I'm a melodica player. I also wrote the Srutibox iPhone app. I talk about myself way too much.
	10:27am sphere: anyone who wrote a Srutibox app should be encouraged in everything they do.
	10:27am βrian: Was Françoise just dumped??
	10:28am N.A.R.D.: I was just thinking that, what could she have possibly said? Did she drop the "M" bomb?
	10:28am karlward: Oh man, Fontaine is my jam.
	10:28am Magda: Last night I went to this great show at Sid's Gold Request Room. It was called Apologies from Men. Apologies from Charlie Rose, Dustin Hoffman, Louis CK were sung in various song styles.
	10:28am steveo: sorry, i was reaching for some bon-bons and my hand bumped the record
	10:28am Trouble: not exactly @brian, i hit the off button by mistake...
	10:28am The Oscar: @sphere I once found a filk album from the early '70s at a Salvation Army. It's kind of fascinating-- it's before the mainstream scifi explosion, so all the songs are about books I've never heard of.
	10:30am βrian: Lyrics: genius.com...
	10:30am Barbara: I saw her perform at a theater in Paris when I was 19, that was a long time ago, unforgettable
	10:30am Magda: www.facebook.com...
	10:32am sphere: @The Oscar i'm a SF/F fan so I've watched filk circles at conventions. some (but not all) WFMU fans would be very intrigued, though your mileage will definitely vary.
	10:32am melinda: @Henry I love melodica. But I don't play.
	10:33am Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Trouble and all!
	10:33am FletcherNyc: Such a gorgeous show this morning. I am happy to live in this world. Thanks y’all!
	10:34am Magda: Hey Greg!!!
	10:36am steveo: this is making me uncomfortable! hurrah!
	10:37am queems: britney spears circa 2007
	10:37am βrian: Single-prop planes are the best drones.
	10:38am d rice: This kinda creeps me out, too.
	10:38am Rev. Turnip Druid: who has shruti cake?
	10:38am Devin B.: amazing
	10:38am thatpatsmith: burp
	10:39am βrian: Is orgy.org already taken?
	10:40am Jeff Moore: "Communing"
	10:42am Linda Lee: what a lovely voice you have, Nina. could listen all day!
	10:43am βrian: New Orleans in June? Oy.
	10:44am !ke: A lady I've called on a few times says she can't ever go to a renaissance fair because she's afraid she'd "laugh at all the bosoms." I can't figure out what that says about her, if anything.
	10:44am Jeff Moore: That Relay Project found sound piece is much-played on WFMU. Trying to remember by whom - Ken? Irwin? Wondering if it's credited with a different title elsewhere.
	10:44am northguineahills: There's a new library branch being built around the corner from my house. I was so surprised when I found out!
	10:44am Linda Lee: i last saw NO in August. oy vey.
	10:44am sphere: I don't think you can have an orgy app.
	10:44am gregory: Sterling Forest still has the Faire ?
	10:44am Linda Lee: good for you ngh! what promotes community = good. what depletes it = bad.
	10:45am Linda Lee: bet someone will figure it out, sphere. just wait.
	10:46am Linda Lee: with you 100% on sound, Nina. absolutely. also, sound transcends cultural context.
	10:47am melinda: @!ke that's funny. People using the word "bosoms" makes me laugh.
	10:48am exile-on-hicks-st: Isn’t there one called 3ndr for threesomes? Just askin’.
	10:48am melinda: I think I've seen the Flemish series.
	10:48am βrian: My medium is UPC labels.
	10:49am melinda: Lavatory is one of those words my parents used when I was little, somewhere along the line it fell out of fashion.
	10:50am frozen_peas: @melinda: haha.
	10:51am slugluv1313: Good Morning, Trouble and Nina! Nina, your music is wonderful and enchanting and perfectly lovely -- THANK-YOU! (especially love the song about LIBRARIES!) and yes -- The Slits documentary is amazing -- i consider myself lucky and blessed that i got to see them when they came to the States many many years ago and i appreciate them more and more every day! the honesty, integrity, creativity, . . . especially when i see crap like the latest Il Makiage ad campaign while just walking about ("How's that no makeup thing working out for you?" etc. -- BARF!!!)
	10:51am frozen_peas: I read an article a while back about how talking to strangers makes you a happier person. I totally agree.
	10:51am sphere: @melinda - "lavatory" is a good word. it should be rescued.
	10:52am northguineahills: I have a problem of constantly talking to strangers. That's how I make friends.
	10:53am Webhamster Henry: Just throw "-chen" on the end of your nouns, and that'll neutralize them!
	10:54am coelacanth∅: greetings Trouble and guest, whomever you are and others
	10:55am melinda: @sphere I agree.
	10:55am northguineahills: I know German vocabulary very well, I can even watch German films w/o subtiles, but when it comes to German grammar.... nope!
	10:55am βrian: "She did it on a der."
	10:55am steveo: cool!
	10:56am Sem: Wonderful stuff, Trouble and Nina. Engrossing.
	10:56am northguineahills: err... subtitles
	10:56am βrian: How about "Ablutoir." Same sense as lavoratory, really.
	10:57am slugluv1313: @ northguineahills -- re: new library branch -- oooooo lucky you! that is wonderful! @ !ke and melinda -- when my younger sister was about seven? eight? she discovered the word "bosom" -- and, knowing that it was somewhat of a naughty/forbidden word, she road around the whole neighborhood on her bicycle screaming "BOSOM!!!" at the top of her lungs for what felt like hours . . . !
	10:58am Trouble: @steveo: no we didn't know each other in providence
	10:58am danomatika: Project sounds great! I empathize as transplant with a deustche Frau und deustches Kind. Muddling through B1.1 in the evenings after work. The intensive weekly classes you can focus on are really the best ... nur Deustch.
	10:59am exile-on-hicks-st: @frozen_peas - i’d be interested in that article.
	10:59am coelacanth∅: haha slugluv! wish there was a film of that
	11:00am βrian: Is it true that the text of War and Peace was consolidated to a single word in the German translation?
	11:01am danomatika: @ßrian: I don't know about that, but there are enough words like Vegangenheitsbewältigung that make for fun daily times, especially government paperwork.
	11:01am Magda: @northguineahills I can understand it I hate writing it. Especially past tenses with prepositional phrases.
	11:03am coelacanth∅: dano, i like "sitzpinkler" myself
	11:03am steveo: @Trouble: ah, well, that might have been fun. i'm so inspired by this show, i'm going to treat myself to a little moma visit at lunch.
	11:04am melinda: @slugluv that's hilarious
	11:04am northguineahills: I couldn't tell which francophone African country this was from until I realized pamelo was name checking a whole bunch of african countries and cities.
	11:05am fred: @βrian: I believe vowels and spacing are optional in German, used for aesthetic purpose only. Then again, I ended up being a coder in part because I never could get that language (and now my main boss is German)
	11:05am Priscilla: We used to send my sisters tapes of our family eating dinner when they were overseas with their husbands in the service. Very 1960s-70s
	11:06am Magda: @fred Its the capitals for nouns that always help.
	11:06am βrian: @fred: What's your preferred language?
	11:07am frozen_peas: @exile-on-hicks-st: Here's one summary. I think there were a lot of news articles based on the study itself. Not sure which one I read at the time. www.businessinsider.com...
	11:08am βrian: Mr Cage makes me think of mushrooms.
	11:08am northguineahills: John Cage, my bodhisattva! BOSOM!
	11:09am Linda Lee: of course he does! he started the new york micological society out of a new school course that he refused to teach unless they let him teach about mushrooms. ( dear friend of mine was their first treasurer. )
	11:09am kuba: mr cage made me think of david dockery's "w/ drums" series - highly recommend to check that out on youtube... is there a name/song title to that cage piece?
	11:09am Linda Lee: micological? mycological?
	11:10am coelacanth∅: ngh haha
	11:10am fred: @βrian: American English. It's the only one that feels natural to me. But if I only have to look at it and not understand it, I like Mongolian a lot. Thai too
	11:10am Webhamster Henry: Heh! My app Minute is partly based on Indetermancy, and also on Essay.
	11:11am βrian: The latter. The first has to do with dropping microphones, I think.
	11:11am βrian: Ah, but which computer language?
	11:11am rich the greeb: My grandparents were members of the new York mycological society. Fun fact.
	11:12am Linda Lee: ngh ~ he was the best dinner guest you could imagine. the kind everyone wanted to sit with. always a twinkle in his eye.
	11:13am Linda Lee: @rich the greeb ~ really! original group? maybe they knew my friend! what were their names?
	11:13am melinda: I just had a myco beverage. Cacao with cordyceps, nothing zany.
	11:13am jt: Nina shows us where art begins ( which is infinite) not where it ends ( which is the end point) Go NIna!
	11:14am fred: @βrian: C++. It's delightfully impure. Makes any committed computer language theorist puke
	11:15am Linda Lee: i have a photo of Cage at the dinner table that i should post to the flickr page.
	11:15am northguineahills: I love being bored! I gravitate towards boredom, and all things boring!
	11:16am βrian: I'm fond of ruby. Started with perl with which I did a lot of text processing.
	11:16am rich the greeb: @lindalee - Joseph and Lillian Grebanier are their names. I'm not sure of the years
	11:17am slugluv1313: ahhh Mr. Cage :) Mushroom IS King! somewhere i have a VHS tape of a documentary about John Cage (recorded off the TV back in the 80s) -- wonderful scenes of him among the mushroom plants :)
	11:17am northguineahills: John Cage died when I was 16, I just started to listen to music, and the alt rock station played one of his collage pieces in his honor, my brain was blown open.
	11:17am Linda Lee: are they still with us, rich?
	11:17am frozen_peas: Nina, you're a genius!!
	11:17am Ken From Hyde Park: You know it's nerd talk when the response to a question about language isn't Dutch, Italian, Tagalog, etc., but rather a computer programming language.
	11:18am northguineahills: I love Julie, she's an old friend of mine!
	11:18am Webhamster Henry: I used to use Arecibo myself!
	11:18am ranjit: I still use Arecibo!
	11:19am steveo: what they changed it???
	11:19am Linda Lee: there's a great short film that Cage made with Rahsaan Roland Kirk .. youtu.be...
	11:19am northguineahills: ahhhh..., I believe I met Nina at least once at one of Shakey's parties back when I was in NYC.
	11:19am emily: Hello! Just tuning in now as I was out. Hello! Haven't been on hold for Arecibo but love their vibe!
	11:20am slugluv1313: @ Linda Lee -- WOW John Cage as a dinner guest how cool!!!
	11:20am Tyler: This is kind of surreal coming out of my cell phone speaker. Loving it. Kitchen dance party.
	11:20am rich the greeb: @linda Lee - unfortunately they have both passed on. My grandfather died in his 60s but my truly amazing grandmother loved until 93. She was a major influence in my life.
	11:20am Linda Lee: yeah he was really fun.
	11:20am northguineahills: Please give us links to Nina's works, por favor!
	11:20am Adriana of DC: I am loving this show so much. Nina K. is my new inspiration/crush/muse! Trouble, you rock!
	11:20am Devin B.: Love this!
	11:21am Mick: Hold Music Dance Party!
	11:21am fred: @Ken: Hey, the question was specifically about computer language
	11:21am Linda Lee: we're so lucky to have these elders in our lives, rich ~ for the short time we do. my friend Jean has passed as well.
	11:22am βrian: while phone == "hold" do \|muzak\| listen( muzak ) end
	11:24am rsj: bryce does good hold music
	11:24am Ken From Hyde Park: @fred - Er, I see that now. My brain computer is apparently not working right today. Sorry for any confusion/misrepresentation.
	11:24am N.A.R.D.: There was a pharmacy I called, and I can't remember which pharmacy it was now, but the on hold music was the end them from the first Portal video game. Someone turned it into a jazzy tune and removed the lyrics.
	11:25am N.A.R.D.: I was so excited I had to tell everyone at the office and no one there had ever even heard of the game.
	11:25am N.A.R.D.: It made me feel a bit like a deflated soccer ball.
	11:25am steveo: are hold music and dj talkover bed related genres?
	11:26am ranjit: this is the weirdest hold music i've ever heard!
	11:26am will: Sounds like breakcore kinda
	11:26am Mick: Linda Lee & Rich, I am right there with you. Lost my grandfather a few weeks ago, and keep reminding myself how lucky we were to have him so long.
	11:27am Lixiviated Life: turned on. tuned in.
	11:27am Linda Lee: yes. we are. what they give us can't be found anywhere else. i'm sorry, Mick.
	11:27am N.A.R.D.: This particular hold music reminds me of a video game, too, actually...
	11:27am Jeff Moore: "on hold music party excerpt 2" sounds partway between a bedroom composition to be used in a kid's homemade horror movie and the music for a spooky-ish video game.
	11:27am northguineahills: Too bad I didn't have a car that needed maintenance when I lived in Williamsburg.
	11:28am fred: @Ken: No offense, it served as a reminder that I should only talk about or do computer stuff if I'm paid for it. True story: when Nat Roe asked me to help with a software project, I had to install a compiler on my personal computer for the first time. That thing is gone by now
	11:28am Webhamster Henry: I'd be in favor of drones as hold music .. with a drop in every 40 seconds of different versions of "All our agents are occupied right now"
	11:29am βrian: I think food carts should hire small acappella groups to sing hold patterns while customers await their orders.
	11:29am steveo: @fred I don't even do programming jobs for friends if they offer to pay me
	11:29am ranjit: Great idea, βrian! "Your falafel is very important to us, please continue to hold"
	11:29am Devin B.: I kinda dig the freeconferencecall.com hold music
	11:29am N.A.R.D.: @Jeff Moore, I thought it reminded me of the Monkey Island game series
	11:29am Webhamster Henry: I was working on some lyrics for GoToMeeting's hold music.
	11:30am Linda Lee: ranjit :-D
	11:30am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Fred-I did some coding at NMSU about 15 years ago in C. C++ I hear is not for purists!
	11:31am fred: This would never work as hold music: the whole point of it is to be so grating that you give up before speaking to anyone, while still paying for the call
	11:31am Linda Lee: haven't been able to do sound work without an actual home. this show is making me crazy. :-D
	11:33am northguineahills: That reminds me when I made a d&b mix from REM's "Pilgrimage" just by cutting and pasting magnetic tape.
	11:33am steveo: gorilla tripod image: www.bhphotovideo.com...
	11:34am Sem: Razor blades and scotch tape: thanks for the many memories of paleo editing, @NGH.
	11:35am melinda: @steveo yikes, that would be an embarrassing item to publicly claim from a bathroom.
	11:36am Peter in Seattle: Just joining, so wonderful Trouble! Another WFMU zenith!
	11:36am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: I like George's work best. I was in Home Depot and some guy was really shocked when I walked by and he goes "You look EXACTLY like Ringo Starr." I should go as him for Holloween, wear the whole Sergeant Pepper costume and every thing. My son wants to be a talking toilet from Captain Underpants, which is awesome.
	11:37am jt: Ideas come out of thin air ...and the air is very thin up there, flying in a plane.
	11:37am βrian: She should've answered, "Michael Nesmith."
	11:37am Linda Lee: is that your picture, Neil? if so has this person ever seen Ringo Starr?
	11:38am The Oscar: Pretty sure the correct answer is "Yoko."
	11:38am ranjit: "John... Cage."
	11:39am βrian: @TOscar: Oh, no.
	11:39am northguineahills: Do it Wild Neil!
	11:39am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @LindaLee-I got the Ringo nose, but that's it. Yeah, that's me.
	11:40am Honeybear: now this is the perfect "on hold" muzak
	11:40am Linda Lee: sorry, i don't see it. you'll need a prosthetic proboscis.
	11:40am βrian: Someone should go as Chop Wickham!
	11:40am kevlicki: Hi trouble!
	11:41am Linda Lee: .. and an earring.
	11:42am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: I have a REALLY BIG nose. But I like your idea, I could go as a CARICATURE of Ringo which might get the point across much better. I could wear 20 rings too.
	11:43am Linda Lee: then you'll have to decide which Ringo. Fab Four Ringo? Magic Christian Ringo? Esteemed Geezer Ringo?
	11:43am northguineahills: digging the brass of daniel herskedal, new to me!!!
	11:44am melinda: I like this too.
	11:45am Linda Lee: me too. nice.
	11:46am joe mulligan: like this herskedal. reminds me of ben neill and arve henrikson
	11:46am Michiel: I think that was Chip Wickham, not Chop.
	11:47am βrian: Perhaps Chip has evolved.
	11:48am northguineahills: @joe mulligan, I love all of those artists, actually djed the same show ben neil played. He's fascinating to watch live.
	11:50am Linda Lee: thank heaven for regional accents untouched by media mush.
	11:51am Passaic River Blues: Tobago is, to many, the Mecca of birding.
	11:52am northguineahills: I've been told by my wife since I moved to FL I now have a Southern accent. When I moved here everyone told me I had a Yankee accent.
	11:52am βrian: I've seen videos of birds mimicking car alarms. Power tools, too.
	11:52am Passaic River Blues: Mockingbirds often mimic car alarms.
	11:53am joe mulligan: @NGH that is awesome, where was the show? I saw Ben Neill play at a loft in SF once, maybe '99? it was with Jhno and I think a guy called if.then.else. great performance!
	11:53am frozen_peas: I miss hearing those Viper car alarms that talk to you and tell you that you're too close to the car.
	11:54am jt: Audible Car Alarms! are illegal in NYC now, finally, that is why they have thankfully become rare ...but not obsolete since cars from out of town or older models still make noise ..
	11:54am northguineahills: @joe milligan: It was at Halcyon in Carroll Gardens around 2002 I go that cornell ornithology site all the time!
	11:54am queems: LOVE IT
	11:54am βrian: @jt: Is that right? Wow, very good news.
	11:54am northguineahills: (Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn)
	11:55am steveo: fantastic, and so on-topic for this show
	11:55am Webhamster Henry: Simply Loons would be fine, followed by "PROTECTED BY VIPER!"
	11:55am frenchee: Me too! So cool, I would love to have that installed in my car.
	11:55am northguineahills: I go TO that cornell orinthology site all the time. (I'll eventually learn English)
	11:55am Webhamster Henry: You need a bird imitating a car alarm!
	11:56am frenchee: the bird imitating all the sounds is amazeballs
	11:56am queems: birds are so weird and amazing
	11:56am PBastille: Interesting show. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
	11:56am Mick: Alarm & construction birds = Amazing. This whole show has been dynamite. Nina and Trouble, thank you!
	11:56am melinda: Fab show, thank you Trouble and Nina!
	11:56am frenchee: @webmaster H: we had several birds in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) doing that.
	11:56am Webhamster Henry: Bellbirds come pretty close to car alarms without imitating.
	11:57am N.A.R.D.: The bird hopes to impress females of the species by showing off its impressive range of sound mimicry, really.
	11:57am northguineahills: Bower birds are relevant to my interests. Thanks Nina y Trouble!
	11:57am βrian: Coming up on the hour: Underwater Theme Park with Meghan ====> wfmu.org...
	11:57am Barbara: Fantastic show, thank you!
	11:57am Webhamster Henry: Let the bowerbirds imitate you!
	11:58am steveo: i've enjoyed this show very much. thanks to Nina, Trouble, Trouble's class, and Phil's girlfriend
	11:58am Ken From Hyde Park: If I get put in charge of hold music, I'm going to have it insert some occasional mumbling in Russian in the background, to keep people on their toes.
	11:58am Devin B.: Thanks Nina and Trouble! This was fascinating and inspiring!
	11:58am frozen_peas: Fantastic show from start to finish. Thank you, Nina and Trouble.
	11:59am Rich in Washington: There is this crazy old record label from the New England called Droll Yankees Inc. and most of their catalog consists of nature field recordings. Some of them have hilariously peculiar narration on them. I especially recommend the one called The Frog Pond.
	11:59am Ken From Hyde Park: Yay, and happy Teacher Appreciation Week!
	11:59am sydnius: ooh Ummgumma
	11:59am FletcherNyc: I am re-listening to that one ASAP
	11:59am Linda Lee: hot damn! must check that out. thanks Rich.
	11:59am βrian: (Mimicking frozen_peas ... )
	11:59am ranjit: thanks Trouble & Nina & birds!
	12:00pm Linda Lee: are done with shop talk? can i tune in again? :-D
	12:00pm Webhamster Henry: Well this was a low-productivity morning for me! Thanks Trouble & Nina! Come on back some time!
	12:02pm Miranda: Nina, where can we get the on-hold songs you did? Is there an album for purchase? Very vaporware sounding, I love it
	12:56pm Trouble: ninakatchadourian.bandcamp.com @miranda and anyone else looking for nina's songs

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May 10, 2018: close observation with guest Nina Katchadourian

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by Nina Katchadourian

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	New	Approx. start time
epic soundtracks	fallen down "fallen down" by "epic soundtracks"	rise above	rough trade			0:00:00 (Pop-up)
renee claude	sais-tu que je t'aime depuis longtemps	le debut d'un temps nouveau	barclay			0:03:28 (Pop-up)
durutti column	street fight "street fight" by "durutti column"	circuses and bread	LTM			0:08:16 (Pop-up)
laurie spiegel	Appalachian Grove III	the expanding universe	unseen worlds			0:15:11 (Pop-up)
volta jazz	mama soukas "mama soukas" by "volta jazz"	dougaba yala/mama soukas	sonafric			0:15:57 (Pop-up)
deux filles	belle's bell "belle's bell" by "deux filles"	space & time	mute			0:20:31 (Pop-up)
Louise huebner	orgies- a tool of witch craft	seduction through witchcraft	infinite zero			0:22:08 (Pop-up)

budgerigar /sparkie williams	budgerigar	bird mimicry	british library			0:36:30 (Pop-up)
fryman-gustaf	pappas papegoja "pappas papegoja" by "fryman-gustaf"	klass klattermus visor	europa gruppen			0:36:51 (Pop-up)
pac man	run for fun "run for fun" by "pac man"	run for fun	kid stuff			0:40:03 (Pop-up)
marais and miranda	how does a frog become a frog	nature songs	motivation records			0:45:35 (Pop-up)

matti viljanen quintet	mud in your eyes	the golden years of finnish accordian jazz	turun tahtituotanto oy			0:55:15 (Pop-up)
the slits	earthbeat "earthbeat" by "the slits"	earthbeat	cbs			0:57:01 (Pop-up)
nina katchadourian /brian dewan/doug skinner/meg reichardt	patient island	patient island	nina katchadourian /brian dewan/doug skinner/meg reichardt			1:00:50 (Pop-up)
nina katchadourian	jacob's barber shop	the essex st market songs	nina katchadourian			1:03:43 (Pop-up)
nina katchadourian	rinbo's cakes and more	the essex market	nina katchadourian			1:04:50 (Pop-up)

nina katchadourian	marfa public library	the marfa jingles	nina katchadourian			1:14:46 (Pop-up)
lady & bird	stephanie says "stephanie says" by "lady & bird"	keren ann/ lady & bird	yellow tangerine records	7"		1:16:33 (Pop-up)
tom ze	amar "amar" by "tom ze"	the return of tom ze	luaka bop/warner bros			1:19:13 (Pop-up)
doug skinner	rennaissance faire "rennaissance faire" by "doug skinner"	that regrettable weekend	doug skinner			1:22:25 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	j'ai jete mon coeur	c'est a l'amour auquel je pense	disques vogue	7"		1:24:40 (Pop-up)
brigitte fontaine	le gougron "le gougron" by "brigitte fontaine"	Comme à la Radio	Saravah Records			1:27:26 (Pop-up)
jaime fillmore	phil's baby "phil's baby" by "jaime fillmore"	the relay project	the relayproject.com			1:31:57 (Pop-up)

sesamstrasse	der die das "der die das" by "sesamstrasse"	sesamstrasse	sesamstrasse			1:53:28 (Pop-up)

pamelo moun'ka	samantha, tresor hindou	vol 1 des plus grands succes	karac			1:57:20 (Pop-up)
henri salvador	l'inspiration "l'inspiration" by "henri salvador"	le martien	disques salvador			2:03:44 (Pop-up)
nina katchadourian	telemarketing indeterminacy	telelmarketing indeterminacy	nina katchadourian			2:06:46 (Pop-up)
fun boy three	our lips are sealed urdu version	our lips are sealed	Chrysalis Records			2:08:07 (Pop-up)

nina katchadourian	on hold music dance party excerpt 1	nina katchadourian	nina katchadourian			2:18:14 (Pop-up)

nina katchadourian	on hold music dance party excerpt 2	nina katchadourian	nina katchadourian			2:23:44 (Pop-up)
chip wickham	pushed too far "pushed too far" by "chip wickham"	la sombra	lovemonk		*	2:35:22 (Pop-up)
daniel herskedal	the mistral noir	slow eastbound train	edition records			2:41:45 (Pop-up)
nina katchadourian	advice from a former student excerpt 1	nina katchadourian	nina katchadourian			2:45:28 (Pop-up)
nina katchadourian	advice from a former student excerpt 2,3	nina katchadourian	nina katchadourian			2:45:38 (Pop-up)

nina katchadourian	natural car alarm #1	nina katchadourian	nina katchadourian			2:53:39 (Pop-up)

birds of new zealand	tui "tui" by "birds of new zealand"	birds of new zealand	viking			2:57:55 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:33pm Trouble: good morning thursday-ites. drum roll: please welcome today's co-host Nina Katchadourian! go to her bandcamp page for links to music: ninakatchadourian.bandcamp.com
	8:47am Webhamster Henry: Hi Trouble and Nina! Nina, play your Ice Cream Headache Song: www.jhhl.net... I'm in a Gamelan, so I think it's oddly authentic and satirical! I also made some songs for the Ice Cream Headache project, which didn't happen when the organizers couldn't get their hands on the ice cream truck they wanted to use.
	9:00am Aaron Working In Newark: Good Morning Trouble
	9:00am N.A.R.D.: Good morning Trouble and Trouble-makers!
	9:00am Aaron Working In Newark: Welcome Nina
	9:01am N.A.R.D.: My goodness, the comments board was up VERY early this week...
	9:01am themutante: Thursday's highlight - Trouble!
	9:01am sphere: hullo Trouble, Nina, and the rest of the Troublers. :)
	9:01am N.A.R.D.: Welcome Nina! Parev, my fellow Armenian!
	9:02am Planet Tyler: WFMU seems to be playing Epic quite a bit these days
	9:05am d rice: Good morning Trouble! Good morning all!
	9:06am d rice: And welcome Nina!
	9:07am steveo: hi Trouble & Nina! I hope there will be radio bee gee lip synching :)
	9:07am BronwynB: hello trouble and nina and everyone :)
	9:09am Matthew: Trouble I love you. You always mention you teach — where? You must be a great teacher.
	9:09am Sem: Hello, Trou ble, welcome Nina, greets, Modern Worlders.
	9:10am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Hi! Going to Poland in July!
	9:10am Webhamster Henry: Trouble teaches LP Album Cover Remixing.
	9:13am Chris from DC: Hello. Yay, Durutti Column.
	9:13am N.A.R.D.: I must've missed that class in the course selection catalog when I was in school, sounds like a fun class
	9:13am northguineahills: Nice Durutti Column! Jealous, Wild Neil. Had to postpone my NYC trip due car maintenance. Have fun (I really want to see Krakow sometime).
	9:14am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble (and her ever-present assistant, Miss Fortune).
	9:17am d rice: Yes! Love this Volta Jazz track!
	9:17am Kerbo in red hook: easing into Thursday is always a pleasure.... thanks trouble.
	9:20am meredith: Morning all! So glad to have a Thursday morning w/no meetings so I can listen in real time rather than later on the archives! :D
	9:23am sphere: never heard of Louise Huebner and that is my loss!
	9:23am queems: brb going 2 witch orgy
	9:24am Webhamster Henry: This kind of disc is why I used to go to the WFMU record fair.
	9:24am Aaron Working In Newark: just decided to join a coven
	9:24am risky: GO TROUBLE!
	9:24am Webhamster Henry: There's an orgy minyan?
	9:25am melinda: hi Trouble, enjoying the vibe
	9:25am The Oscar: Mornin'! I love the fact that I'm hearing Louise Huebner on the radio before 10:00 AM. God bless WFMU.
	9:25am d rice: "plan your orgy with care"--sage advice
	9:25am themutante: Nice transition!
	9:26am MD: GOOD MORNING FREEFORM FREEDOM FIGHTERS!
	9:26am MD: FFF!
	9:26am steveo: les oiseaux love witchcraft
	9:26am themutante: Ha! @d rice
	9:26am sphere: if you invite the required number of guests but some of them don't show up, are you still ok with the cosmos?
	9:27am queems: imagine how sweaty a 22 person orgy would be
	9:27am MD: FFF...ARMY!
	9:28am listener lee: Hi trouble. Excited to hear you and Nina this morning!!
	9:28am MD: are those peas? LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE PEAS!!!
	9:29am d rice: I wonder if those folks in the picture are gathering for an orgy?
	9:33am Webhamster Henry: Yes - Moomins speak Swedish!
	9:36am queems: this is so great
	9:37am queems: this is satan’s bird
	9:38am themutante: This is madness... I love it!
	9:39am The Oscar: This is the best.
	9:39am N.A.R.D.: I'm going to have to replay this for my husband later. He will just die for this recording!
	9:40am Lucky: Oh, those sneaky ghosts!
	9:41am queems: HAHAH i downloaded this pacman theme song on napster when i was 11 because it was marked as “taylor hanson R@RE”
	9:41am EG_Astro: Goodmorning!
	9:42am Aaron Working In Newark: you were 11 when napster was around?? Lucky. @queems
	9:42am queems: @aaron i’m a millennial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
	9:43am exile-on-hicks-st: Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-Waka-waka-waka-
	9:43am steveo: luck? or excellent planning?
	9:43am N.A.R.D.: I think I was 13-14 when it was around, queems, you must be the same age as my younger sister
	9:45am Webhamster Henry: M&M represented ... It was the 40th anniversary of Josef's death the other day.
	9:46am queems: @nard i’m 30, so i might have been more like 12
	9:47am N.A.R.D.: I'm 33, my sister is 29
	9:47am N.A.R.D.: Go millennials!
	9:48am Webhamster Henry: Brian and I did a show on April 30th in Poughkeepsie. I made the "other" fansite mentioned on the official maraisandmiranda.org
	9:49am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Aaron-curious. Why join a coven?
	9:49am queems: @nard keeping it real with our iphones and avocado toast
	9:50am MD: Dirty mouths from Sverge!!
	9:51am melinda: Why did avocado toast become a thing?
	9:52am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Advacado toast sounds pretty good right around now. Munching on freshly popped popcorn from Western NY Fun Foods.
	9:52am d rice: What IS avocado toast?
	9:52am queems: @melinda good question- i’m not a fan
	9:53am βrian: I can't imagine toasting avocados is a good idea. Love these loons.
	9:53am d rice: I enjoy avocados, but I can't conceive of them in toast form.
	9:53am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: How about deep-fried advocados?
	9:54am Ken From Hyde Park: I was slicing up a yellow bell pepper for lunch and it looked pretty good, so I ate half of it for breakfast.
	9:55am βrian: I read that a lot of people cut their hands when preparing avocados. I just don't get it. My technique is to use common sense.
	9:55am fred: Hello Trouble and listeners. It's a holiday here in France, so I can listen for a change
	9:56am βrian: Though I have seen folks actually lightly chop into the stone to try to get it out. I don't advise that.
	9:57am SSS: My favorite way to eat an avocado is out of the half shell, with a spoon, and only salt and black pepper. Yum!
	9:58am βrian: @fred: What, another jour férié ? In the U.S. we have a number of holidays where most everyone has to work. Go figure.
	9:58am d rice: Is it true that avocado stones have arsenic?
	10:01am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @D rice-I heard apple pits do. Arsenic can dissolve gold, also. We used it as a gold stripper when electroplating precisely.
	10:01am fred: @βrian: May has 4 over here. There's another one left, but I don't know when. I often learn about the religious ones from coworkers a few days before, or when I mistakenly show up at work and can't get in
	10:01am Dominick: Slits always a fun thing
	10:02am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Corpus Christie is a big holiday in May in Poland.
	10:02am frozen_peas: @d rice: I'd be more concerned about the arsenic in rice.
	10:03am d rice: @Wild Neil--Oh, maybe I was remembering apples. Weird about arsenic and gold.
	10:04am d rice: @frozen_peas--Arsenic probably isn't the worst thing in me. Oh, you were probably talking about food.
	10:04am βrian: I stumbled upon Easter Monday when I was in Avignon. I had no idea. Then I wondered if there might be an Easter Tuesday as well.
	10:05am steveo: really great, Nina K., thanks for being here!
	10:05am d rice: I like the chimes and bells in this track.
	10:05am melinda: Avocado on toast sounds ok, I've just wondered why it came to represent millennial trendiness.
	10:06am SSS: My wife is actually allergic to avocados. Strangest allergy I have ever heard of. They make her violently ill.
	10:07am northguineahills: The arsenic content in apple seeds is so minuscule, you'd need a a couple of gross of apples just to make a slightly effective poison.
	10:07am βrian: Ah, so it's toasted bread with avocado. That sounds like a good after-school snack. Add a squeeze of lime and some coarse salt.
	10:09am northguineahills: I've done open faced sandwiches w/ avocados, but they were Mexi recipes via my wife. (she is technically a millennial, I'm Gen X [7 years her senior])
	10:09am βrian: "Three unlikely things, in combination." That sounds like a kind of koan.
	10:09am northguineahills: @SSS: That is weird, never heard of it!
	10:10am JakeGould: Avocado toast is just regular old cafe $7 toast made with thick bread and it has avocado on it among other things. This brings the cost up to $10 to $12. It allows cafe workers to make lots of money off of something and also provides tons of entertainment as they take, prepare and serve the order.
	10:10am northguineahills: Typhoid Mary ended up at Little Brother Island.
	10:10am steveo: did you know each other in Providence???
	10:11am Webhamster Henry: If you want to read more about Roosevelt Island, my friend Stacy Horn has a book on this subject coming out next week, Damnation Island: www.amazon.com...
	10:11am queems: north brother island
	10:11am SSS: Yes, @northguineahills, it was difficult to believe, but while uncommon, other do have it.
	10:11am frozen_peas: What is really delicious is mashed avocado (plus salt and pepper) mixed with a little olive oil and red pepper flakes, spread on toast. They sell it at Pret but it's easy enough to make it at home for next to nothing.
	10:12am βrian: I love accordion when played in the France/Spanish style. And bandoneon.
	10:12am N.A.R.D.: I've literally never had avocado on toast and I have never owned an iPhone or iPod, I'm a black sheep millenial
	10:12am Roger Roger: So glad you have Nina K on the show. She's one of my faves!
	10:13am northguineahills: My bad, it was North Brother Island for Typhoid Mary.
	10:13am The Oscar: I feel like a lot of the accordion stigma is fading the further we get from Lawrence Welk. For people my age, I think the soprano sax has taken its place.
	10:13am Mick: I love accordion, bandoneon, the whole box of wine!
	10:13am frozen_peas: ditto, Roger Roger. Nina K is an amazing guest!
	10:14am northguineahills: I love Paulina Oliveros style of accordion.
	10:14am fred: @βrian: You're more French than I am. I can't stand accordion, except Pauline Oliveros
	10:14am βrian: As in, "home on the range." That works.
	10:15am Rev. Turnip Druid: FOKES.
	10:16am βrian: A big part of the mission of libraries is to maintain the illusion that books are free. ("Books," that is.)
	10:16am northguineahills: GTDS's Kris Holmes used to live near Marfa, and Little Danny is nearby as well.
	10:16am maestroso: For virtuoso Finnish accordion you can't get much better than Maria Kalaniemi.
	10:16am Davy Gravy: Oh Nina! I love your voice. Still remember you playing around the dinner table with Bill Frisell.
	10:17am karlward: This jingle stuff reminds me of Nilsson. It's awesome.
	10:17am Webhamster Henry: I bet you Oliverosian accordion lovers would also like Guy Klucevsek's work.
	10:17am βrian: Polka-esque accordion leaves me cold. Or lukewarm, anyway.
	10:18am N.A.R.D.: I actually used to very much dislike polka-accordion, but it grew on me like a brain-eating fungus and now I listen to it on purpose
	10:19am Rev. Turnip Druid: @fred: accordion can be marvelous but limiting it to drones. Same for any free-reed instrument. Heroic joy. But played tunefully? Not so much..
	10:20am fred: @Rev: I tend to prefer when instruments are not played tunefully
	10:21am Magda: A little late today, but I hope all is well in the world.
	10:23am Webhamster Henry: Doug Skinner needs more exposure.
	10:24am Rev. Turnip Druid: I discovered much joy in combining harmonicas with bicycle pumps. Oh the tuneless joy..
	10:24am queems: i love this
	10:25am northguineahills: My wife has a over a dozen harmonicas of different sizes and tonalities. (I need to steal them!)
	10:25am N.A.R.D.: This entire show is terrific today. I have so many clicky stars today.
	10:25am EG_Astro: this song is fantastic. "Gatorade in the back of the van"
	10:26am northguineahills: @WebHamster Henry: Of course I love Guy Klucevek's work!
	10:26am fred: @Rev: A guy I know used a bicycle to power a siren, playing trombone while pedaling
	10:26am sphere: One day some rogue DJ will do an entire hour of science-fiction folk song (aka "filk")._
	10:26am Webhamster Henry: I'm a melodica player. I also wrote the Srutibox iPhone app. I talk about myself way too much.
	10:27am sphere: anyone who wrote a Srutibox app should be encouraged in everything they do.
	10:27am βrian: Was Françoise just dumped??
	10:28am N.A.R.D.: I was just thinking that, what could she have possibly said? Did she drop the "M" bomb?
	10:28am karlward: Oh man, Fontaine is my jam.
	10:28am Magda: Last night I went to this great show at Sid's Gold Request Room. It was called Apologies from Men. Apologies from Charlie Rose, Dustin Hoffman, Louis CK were sung in various song styles.
	10:28am steveo: sorry, i was reaching for some bon-bons and my hand bumped the record
	10:28am Trouble: not exactly @brian, i hit the off button by mistake...
	10:28am The Oscar: @sphere I once found a filk album from the early '70s at a Salvation Army. It's kind of fascinating-- it's before the mainstream scifi explosion, so all the songs are about books I've never heard of.
	10:30am βrian: Lyrics: genius.com...
	10:30am Barbara: I saw her perform at a theater in Paris when I was 19, that was a long time ago, unforgettable
	10:30am Magda: www.facebook.com...
	10:32am sphere: @The Oscar i'm a SF/F fan so I've watched filk circles at conventions. some (but not all) WFMU fans would be very intrigued, though your mileage will definitely vary.
	10:32am melinda: @Henry I love melodica. But I don't play.
	10:33am Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Trouble and all!
	10:33am FletcherNyc: Such a gorgeous show this morning. I am happy to live in this world. Thanks y’all!
	10:34am Magda: Hey Greg!!!
	10:36am steveo: this is making me uncomfortable! hurrah!
	10:37am queems: britney spears circa 2007
	10:37am βrian: Single-prop planes are the best drones.
	10:38am d rice: This kinda creeps me out, too.
	10:38am Rev. Turnip Druid: who has shruti cake?
	10:38am Devin B.: amazing
	10:38am thatpatsmith: burp
	10:39am βrian: Is orgy.org already taken?
	10:40am Jeff Moore: "Communing"
	10:42am Linda Lee: what a lovely voice you have, Nina. could listen all day!
	10:43am βrian: New Orleans in June? Oy.
	10:44am !ke: A lady I've called on a few times says she can't ever go to a renaissance fair because she's afraid she'd "laugh at all the bosoms." I can't figure out what that says about her, if anything.
	10:44am Jeff Moore: That Relay Project found sound piece is much-played on WFMU. Trying to remember by whom - Ken? Irwin? Wondering if it's credited with a different title elsewhere.
	10:44am northguineahills: There's a new library branch being built around the corner from my house. I was so surprised when I found out!
	10:44am Linda Lee: i last saw NO in August. oy vey.
	10:44am sphere: I don't think you can have an orgy app.
	10:44am gregory: Sterling Forest still has the Faire ?
	10:44am Linda Lee: good for you ngh! what promotes community = good. what depletes it = bad.
	10:45am Linda Lee: bet someone will figure it out, sphere. just wait.
	10:46am Linda Lee: with you 100% on sound, Nina. absolutely. also, sound transcends cultural context.
	10:47am melinda: @!ke that's funny. People using the word "bosoms" makes me laugh.
	10:48am exile-on-hicks-st: Isn’t there one called 3ndr for threesomes? Just askin’.
	10:48am melinda: I think I've seen the Flemish series.
	10:48am βrian: My medium is UPC labels.
	10:49am melinda: Lavatory is one of those words my parents used when I was little, somewhere along the line it fell out of fashion.
	10:50am frozen_peas: @melinda: haha.
	10:51am slugluv1313: Good Morning, Trouble and Nina! Nina, your music is wonderful and enchanting and perfectly lovely -- THANK-YOU! (especially love the song about LIBRARIES!) and yes -- The Slits documentary is amazing -- i consider myself lucky and blessed that i got to see them when they came to the States many many years ago and i appreciate them more and more every day! the honesty, integrity, creativity, . . . especially when i see crap like the latest Il Makiage ad campaign while just walking about ("How's that no makeup thing working out for you?" etc. -- BARF!!!)
	10:51am frozen_peas: I read an article a while back about how talking to strangers makes you a happier person. I totally agree.
	10:51am sphere: @melinda - "lavatory" is a good word. it should be rescued.
	10:52am northguineahills: I have a problem of constantly talking to strangers. That's how I make friends.
	10:53am Webhamster Henry: Just throw "-chen" on the end of your nouns, and that'll neutralize them!
	10:54am coelacanth∅: greetings Trouble and guest, whomever you are and others
	10:55am melinda: @sphere I agree.
	10:55am northguineahills: I know German vocabulary very well, I can even watch German films w/o subtiles, but when it comes to German grammar.... nope!
	10:55am βrian: "She did it on a der."
	10:55am steveo: cool!
	10:56am Sem: Wonderful stuff, Trouble and Nina. Engrossing.
	10:56am northguineahills: err... subtitles
	10:56am βrian: How about "Ablutoir." Same sense as lavoratory, really.
	10:57am slugluv1313: @ northguineahills -- re: new library branch -- oooooo lucky you! that is wonderful! @ !ke and melinda -- when my younger sister was about seven? eight? she discovered the word "bosom" -- and, knowing that it was somewhat of a naughty/forbidden word, she road around the whole neighborhood on her bicycle screaming "BOSOM!!!" at the top of her lungs for what felt like hours . . . !
	10:58am Trouble: @steveo: no we didn't know each other in providence
	10:58am danomatika: Project sounds great! I empathize as transplant with a deustche Frau und deustches Kind. Muddling through B1.1 in the evenings after work. The intensive weekly classes you can focus on are really the best ... nur Deustch.
	10:59am exile-on-hicks-st: @frozen_peas - i’d be interested in that article.
	10:59am coelacanth∅: haha slugluv! wish there was a film of that
	11:00am βrian: Is it true that the text of War and Peace was consolidated to a single word in the German translation?
	11:01am danomatika: @ßrian: I don't know about that, but there are enough words like Vegangenheitsbewältigung that make for fun daily times, especially government paperwork.
	11:01am Magda: @northguineahills I can understand it I hate writing it. Especially past tenses with prepositional phrases.
	11:03am coelacanth∅: dano, i like "sitzpinkler" myself
	11:03am steveo: @Trouble: ah, well, that might have been fun. i'm so inspired by this show, i'm going to treat myself to a little moma visit at lunch.
	11:04am melinda: @slugluv that's hilarious
	11:04am northguineahills: I couldn't tell which francophone African country this was from until I realized pamelo was name checking a whole bunch of african countries and cities.
	11:05am fred: @βrian: I believe vowels and spacing are optional in German, used for aesthetic purpose only. Then again, I ended up being a coder in part because I never could get that language (and now my main boss is German)
	11:05am Priscilla: We used to send my sisters tapes of our family eating dinner when they were overseas with their husbands in the service. Very 1960s-70s
	11:06am Magda: @fred Its the capitals for nouns that always help.
	11:06am βrian: @fred: What's your preferred language?
	11:07am frozen_peas: @exile-on-hicks-st: Here's one summary. I think there were a lot of news articles based on the study itself. Not sure which one I read at the time. www.businessinsider.com...
	11:08am βrian: Mr Cage makes me think of mushrooms.
	11:08am northguineahills: John Cage, my bodhisattva! BOSOM!
	11:09am Linda Lee: of course he does! he started the new york micological society out of a new school course that he refused to teach unless they let him teach about mushrooms. ( dear friend of mine was their first treasurer. )
	11:09am kuba: mr cage made me think of david dockery's "w/ drums" series - highly recommend to check that out on youtube... is there a name/song title to that cage piece?
	11:09am Linda Lee: micological? mycological?
	11:10am coelacanth∅: ngh haha
	11:10am fred: @βrian: American English. It's the only one that feels natural to me. But if I only have to look at it and not understand it, I like Mongolian a lot. Thai too
	11:10am Webhamster Henry: Heh! My app Minute is partly based on Indetermancy, and also on Essay.
	11:11am βrian: The latter. The first has to do with dropping microphones, I think.
	11:11am βrian: Ah, but which computer language?
	11:11am rich the greeb: My grandparents were members of the new York mycological society. Fun fact.
	11:12am Linda Lee: ngh ~ he was the best dinner guest you could imagine. the kind everyone wanted to sit with. always a twinkle in his eye.
	11:13am Linda Lee: @rich the greeb ~ really! original group? maybe they knew my friend! what were their names?
	11:13am melinda: I just had a myco beverage. Cacao with cordyceps, nothing zany.
	11:13am jt: Nina shows us where art begins ( which is infinite) not where it ends ( which is the end point) Go NIna!
	11:14am fred: @βrian: C++. It's delightfully impure. Makes any committed computer language theorist puke
	11:15am Linda Lee: i have a photo of Cage at the dinner table that i should post to the flickr page.
	11:15am northguineahills: I love being bored! I gravitate towards boredom, and all things boring!
	11:16am βrian: I'm fond of ruby. Started with perl with which I did a lot of text processing.
	11:16am rich the greeb: @lindalee - Joseph and Lillian Grebanier are their names. I'm not sure of the years
	11:17am slugluv1313: ahhh Mr. Cage :) Mushroom IS King! somewhere i have a VHS tape of a documentary about John Cage (recorded off the TV back in the 80s) -- wonderful scenes of him among the mushroom plants :)
	11:17am northguineahills: John Cage died when I was 16, I just started to listen to music, and the alt rock station played one of his collage pieces in his honor, my brain was blown open.
	11:17am Linda Lee: are they still with us, rich?
	11:17am frozen_peas: Nina, you're a genius!!
	11:17am Ken From Hyde Park: You know it's nerd talk when the response to a question about language isn't Dutch, Italian, Tagalog, etc., but rather a computer programming language.
	11:18am northguineahills: I love Julie, she's an old friend of mine!
	11:18am Webhamster Henry: I used to use Arecibo myself!
	11:18am ranjit: I still use Arecibo!
	11:19am steveo: what they changed it???
	11:19am Linda Lee: there's a great short film that Cage made with Rahsaan Roland Kirk .. youtu.be...
	11:19am northguineahills: ahhhh..., I believe I met Nina at least once at one of Shakey's parties back when I was in NYC.
	11:19am emily: Hello! Just tuning in now as I was out. Hello! Haven't been on hold for Arecibo but love their vibe!
	11:20am slugluv1313: @ Linda Lee -- WOW John Cage as a dinner guest how cool!!!
	11:20am Tyler: This is kind of surreal coming out of my cell phone speaker. Loving it. Kitchen dance party.
	11:20am rich the greeb: @linda Lee - unfortunately they have both passed on. My grandfather died in his 60s but my truly amazing grandmother loved until 93. She was a major influence in my life.
	11:20am Linda Lee: yeah he was really fun.
	11:20am northguineahills: Please give us links to Nina's works, por favor!
	11:20am Adriana of DC: I am loving this show so much. Nina K. is my new inspiration/crush/muse! Trouble, you rock!
	11:20am Devin B.: Love this!
	11:21am Mick: Hold Music Dance Party!
	11:21am fred: @Ken: Hey, the question was specifically about computer language
	11:21am Linda Lee: we're so lucky to have these elders in our lives, rich ~ for the short time we do. my friend Jean has passed as well.
	11:22am βrian: while phone == "hold" do \|muzak\| listen( muzak ) end
	11:24am rsj: bryce does good hold music
	11:24am Ken From Hyde Park: @fred - Er, I see that now. My brain computer is apparently not working right today. Sorry for any confusion/misrepresentation.
	11:24am N.A.R.D.: There was a pharmacy I called, and I can't remember which pharmacy it was now, but the on hold music was the end them from the first Portal video game. Someone turned it into a jazzy tune and removed the lyrics.
	11:25am N.A.R.D.: I was so excited I had to tell everyone at the office and no one there had ever even heard of the game.
	11:25am N.A.R.D.: It made me feel a bit like a deflated soccer ball.
	11:25am steveo: are hold music and dj talkover bed related genres?
	11:26am ranjit: this is the weirdest hold music i've ever heard!
	11:26am will: Sounds like breakcore kinda
	11:26am Mick: Linda Lee & Rich, I am right there with you. Lost my grandfather a few weeks ago, and keep reminding myself how lucky we were to have him so long.
	11:27am Lixiviated Life: turned on. tuned in.
	11:27am Linda Lee: yes. we are. what they give us can't be found anywhere else. i'm sorry, Mick.
	11:27am N.A.R.D.: This particular hold music reminds me of a video game, too, actually...
	11:27am Jeff Moore: "on hold music party excerpt 2" sounds partway between a bedroom composition to be used in a kid's homemade horror movie and the music for a spooky-ish video game.
	11:27am northguineahills: Too bad I didn't have a car that needed maintenance when I lived in Williamsburg.
	11:28am fred: @Ken: No offense, it served as a reminder that I should only talk about or do computer stuff if I'm paid for it. True story: when Nat Roe asked me to help with a software project, I had to install a compiler on my personal computer for the first time. That thing is gone by now
	11:28am Webhamster Henry: I'd be in favor of drones as hold music .. with a drop in every 40 seconds of different versions of "All our agents are occupied right now"
	11:29am βrian: I think food carts should hire small acappella groups to sing hold patterns while customers await their orders.
	11:29am steveo: @fred I don't even do programming jobs for friends if they offer to pay me
	11:29am ranjit: Great idea, βrian! "Your falafel is very important to us, please continue to hold"
	11:29am Devin B.: I kinda dig the freeconferencecall.com hold music
	11:29am N.A.R.D.: @Jeff Moore, I thought it reminded me of the Monkey Island game series
	11:29am Webhamster Henry: I was working on some lyrics for GoToMeeting's hold music.
	11:30am Linda Lee: ranjit :-D
	11:30am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Fred-I did some coding at NMSU about 15 years ago in C. C++ I hear is not for purists!
	11:31am fred: This would never work as hold music: the whole point of it is to be so grating that you give up before speaking to anyone, while still paying for the call
	11:31am Linda Lee: haven't been able to do sound work without an actual home. this show is making me crazy. :-D
	11:33am northguineahills: That reminds me when I made a d&b mix from REM's "Pilgrimage" just by cutting and pasting magnetic tape.
	11:33am steveo: gorilla tripod image: www.bhphotovideo.com...
	11:34am Sem: Razor blades and scotch tape: thanks for the many memories of paleo editing, @NGH.
	11:35am melinda: @steveo yikes, that would be an embarrassing item to publicly claim from a bathroom.
	11:36am Peter in Seattle: Just joining, so wonderful Trouble! Another WFMU zenith!
	11:36am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: I like George's work best. I was in Home Depot and some guy was really shocked when I walked by and he goes "You look EXACTLY like Ringo Starr." I should go as him for Holloween, wear the whole Sergeant Pepper costume and every thing. My son wants to be a talking toilet from Captain Underpants, which is awesome.
	11:37am jt: Ideas come out of thin air ...and the air is very thin up there, flying in a plane.
	11:37am βrian: She should've answered, "Michael Nesmith."
	11:37am Linda Lee: is that your picture, Neil? if so has this person ever seen Ringo Starr?
	11:38am The Oscar: Pretty sure the correct answer is "Yoko."
	11:38am ranjit: "John... Cage."
	11:39am βrian: @TOscar: Oh, no.
	11:39am northguineahills: Do it Wild Neil!
	11:39am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @LindaLee-I got the Ringo nose, but that's it. Yeah, that's me.
	11:40am Honeybear: now this is the perfect "on hold" muzak
	11:40am Linda Lee: sorry, i don't see it. you'll need a prosthetic proboscis.
	11:40am βrian: Someone should go as Chop Wickham!
	11:40am kevlicki: Hi trouble!
	11:41am Linda Lee: .. and an earring.
	11:42am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: I have a REALLY BIG nose. But I like your idea, I could go as a CARICATURE of Ringo which might get the point across much better. I could wear 20 rings too.
	11:43am Linda Lee: then you'll have to decide which Ringo. Fab Four Ringo? Magic Christian Ringo? Esteemed Geezer Ringo?
	11:43am northguineahills: digging the brass of daniel herskedal, new to me!!!
	11:44am melinda: I like this too.
	11:45am Linda Lee: me too. nice.
	11:46am joe mulligan: like this herskedal. reminds me of ben neill and arve henrikson
	11:46am Michiel: I think that was Chip Wickham, not Chop.
	11:47am βrian: Perhaps Chip has evolved.
	11:48am northguineahills: @joe mulligan, I love all of those artists, actually djed the same show ben neil played. He's fascinating to watch live.
	11:50am Linda Lee: thank heaven for regional accents untouched by media mush.
	11:51am Passaic River Blues: Tobago is, to many, the Mecca of birding.
	11:52am northguineahills: I've been told by my wife since I moved to FL I now have a Southern accent. When I moved here everyone told me I had a Yankee accent.
	11:52am βrian: I've seen videos of birds mimicking car alarms. Power tools, too.
	11:52am Passaic River Blues: Mockingbirds often mimic car alarms.
	11:53am joe mulligan: @NGH that is awesome, where was the show? I saw Ben Neill play at a loft in SF once, maybe '99? it was with Jhno and I think a guy called if.then.else. great performance!
	11:53am frozen_peas: I miss hearing those Viper car alarms that talk to you and tell you that you're too close to the car.
	11:54am jt: Audible Car Alarms! are illegal in NYC now, finally, that is why they have thankfully become rare ...but not obsolete since cars from out of town or older models still make noise ..
	11:54am northguineahills: @joe milligan: It was at Halcyon in Carroll Gardens around 2002 I go that cornell ornithology site all the time!
	11:54am queems: LOVE IT
	11:54am βrian: @jt: Is that right? Wow, very good news.
	11:54am northguineahills: (Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn)
	11:55am steveo: fantastic, and so on-topic for this show
	11:55am Webhamster Henry: Simply Loons would be fine, followed by "PROTECTED BY VIPER!"
	11:55am frenchee: Me too! So cool, I would love to have that installed in my car.
	11:55am northguineahills: I go TO that cornell orinthology site all the time. (I'll eventually learn English)
	11:55am Webhamster Henry: You need a bird imitating a car alarm!
	11:56am frenchee: the bird imitating all the sounds is amazeballs
	11:56am queems: birds are so weird and amazing
	11:56am PBastille: Interesting show. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
	11:56am Mick: Alarm & construction birds = Amazing. This whole show has been dynamite. Nina and Trouble, thank you!
	11:56am melinda: Fab show, thank you Trouble and Nina!
	11:56am frenchee: @webmaster H: we had several birds in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) doing that.
	11:56am Webhamster Henry: Bellbirds come pretty close to car alarms without imitating.
	11:57am N.A.R.D.: The bird hopes to impress females of the species by showing off its impressive range of sound mimicry, really.
	11:57am northguineahills: Bower birds are relevant to my interests. Thanks Nina y Trouble!
	11:57am βrian: Coming up on the hour: Underwater Theme Park with Meghan ====> wfmu.org...
	11:57am Barbara: Fantastic show, thank you!
	11:57am Webhamster Henry: Let the bowerbirds imitate you!
	11:58am steveo: i've enjoyed this show very much. thanks to Nina, Trouble, Trouble's class, and Phil's girlfriend
	11:58am Ken From Hyde Park: If I get put in charge of hold music, I'm going to have it insert some occasional mumbling in Russian in the background, to keep people on their toes.
	11:58am Devin B.: Thanks Nina and Trouble! This was fascinating and inspiring!
	11:58am frozen_peas: Fantastic show from start to finish. Thank you, Nina and Trouble.
	11:59am Rich in Washington: There is this crazy old record label from the New England called Droll Yankees Inc. and most of their catalog consists of nature field recordings. Some of them have hilariously peculiar narration on them. I especially recommend the one called The Frog Pond.
	11:59am Ken From Hyde Park: Yay, and happy Teacher Appreciation Week!
	11:59am sydnius: ooh Ummgumma
	11:59am FletcherNyc: I am re-listening to that one ASAP
	11:59am Linda Lee: hot damn! must check that out. thanks Rich.
	11:59am βrian: (Mimicking frozen_peas ... )
	11:59am ranjit: thanks Trouble & Nina & birds!
	12:00pm Linda Lee: are done with shop talk? can i tune in again? :-D
	12:00pm Webhamster Henry: Well this was a low-productivity morning for me! Thanks Trouble & Nina! Come on back some time!
	12:02pm Miranda: Nina, where can we get the on-hold songs you did? Is there an album for purchase? Very vaporware sounding, I love it
	12:56pm Trouble: ninakatchadourian.bandcamp.com @miranda and anyone else looking for nina's songs

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from May 10, 2018

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