WFMU: Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from November 8, 2017

Listener comments!
	10:01pm Gary: Yee-haw!
	10:02pm Funky16Corners: Hey Gary!
	10:02pm hyde: hi
	10:02pm Funky16Corners: Hey Hyde!
	10:03pm northguineahills: Finally, got sound again (laptop is stroking on me)
	10:04pm Jeff Ash: Man, that top of the hour sneaks up on you. But here I am, reporting from the shadow of Lambeau Field.
	10:04pm Funky16Corners: NGH, Jeff! Good evening!
	10:04pm cupcakejenny: Hi. I texted you
	10:05pm Funky16Corners: NGH you can't not have sound!
	10:05pm Funky16Corners: Hi Jenny!
	10:10pm northguineahills: Even w/o sound, there is music.
	10:10pm Funky16Corners: Hmmm, that sounds like a zen koan.
	10:13pm northguineahills: nah, just getting inside of the noggin of John Cage. wait, you're right, that would work as a flowing koan! If I had commentary from wfmu 24/7 I'd be a much more creative person!
	10:14pm Dean: I pretty sure Cage held that "without sound" is not the same as "silence."
	10:18pm Funky16Corners: But what would Cage have made of these funky New Orleans drums?
	10:19pm hyde: gotta go to sleep. night, friends
	10:20pm Funky16Corners: Nite Hyde!
	10:21pm Dean: He'd a dug 'em.
	10:22pm Funky16Corners: I suspect you're right!
	10:23pm Dean: NOLA sure dug him. http://www.acehotel.com/calendar/neworleans/untouchable-numbers-nola
	10:31pm northguineahills: @Dean: True, but even he recognized a human can't have a experience w/o sound as his experiences in the anechoic chambers. I love the Brainfreeze mix, a fave of mine!
	10:31pm northguineahills: I thought something sounded familiar.
	10:32pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, Brainfreeze is a killer!
	10:34pm Dean: I have always maintained that if I had to forgo a sense it would be sight, which I find mostly superfluous. But hearing? Never.
	10:34pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, no music, no fun, period.
	10:35pm Funky16Corners: And I mean "fun" in every sense
	10:39pm northguineahills: It's a tough call, but I agree.
	10:40pm Funky16Corners: Not that I'm volunteering to be blinded any time soon. Too many nice fall colors happening.
	10:43pm Dean: Nature's overrated in my book.
	10:46pm northguineahills: It was a common punishment for overthrown emperors of the Byzantium Empire b/c killing wouldn't be too "Xtian".
	10:49pm Funky16Corners: How nice of them!
	10:50pm doctorjazz: Hey, quick check in. Missed the Association (think that was the 1st or 2nd album I ever bought. Boy, what it wrought...)
	10:50pm Funky16Corners: Hey Doc!
	10:52pm doctorjazz: Doing my Town Crier routine-great show coming up in NYC newyork.carpediem.cd...
	10:53pm Funky16Corners: That looks interesting!
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: greetings Larry and others
	10:59pm Funky16Corners: Hey C!
	11:12pm coelacanth∅: Parks claims he was almost entirely responsible for sail on sailor. Wilson has said he basically wrote it with Ray Kennedy. ...who knows.
	11:13pm Funky16Corners: I suspect there was enough drugs going around that nobody knows for sure. I sure doesn't sound like it was written by a committee.
	11:14pm Dean: We should view skeptically anybody who claims almost entire responsibility for anything.
	11:15pm Funky16Corners: True that.
	11:17pm coelacanth∅: haha, yeah Larry. ...Dean it's really true; but on the other hand does a whole band always have to get writing credits for the respective instrumentalists' arrangements of their own parts? it must be hard to draw the line some times.
	11:18pm Funky16Corners: I think a lot of that, especially in the 60s was by prior arrangement.
	11:19pm Funky16Corners: I remember hearing stories about how Pete Townshend was driving around in a Jaguar while the rest of the Who were making ketchup soup in a coldwater flat
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: i've heard that, and similar stories with some others. ...maybe Pete really did pen everything but man he could've thrown 'em a fucking bone.
	11:23pm Dean: It is inherently hard, sometimes impossible, to draw the lines. We have copyright regimes designed to do the best we think we can do to promote creativity (whatever that is). Incentives, you know. But legal definitions don't prescribe historical ones.
	11:24pm coelacanth∅: ...you know Thom York composes all the lyrics and much of the music of radiohead, but all songs are credited to the whole band. it's just the kind of person he is. (i know other examples but can't think of them)
	11:26pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, as someone who's been in bands, there should be a feeling of brotherhood, unless ego forces an employer/employee thing, which breaks up bands
	11:27pm Dean: If that is correct, @ coelacanth∅, then I view Thom Yorke's practice as nothing more than a way of spreading blame. That's because I utterly don't get Radiohead.
	11:32pm Funky16Corners: I would not be surprised to discover that agreements of that sort are few and far between these days.
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: nor would i.
	11:36pm Funky16Corners: These being harsher times in which communal feelings are often sandwiched between copies of Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead
	11:38pm Dean: These are not harsher times. Rand was publishing her bestsellers in the '40s and '50s.
	11:39pm Dean: Put another way, we're reaping what we have sown.
	11:40pm Funky16Corners: To borrow an old phrase, "Who is this we you speak of keemosabe?" Some of us have made a lifes work or rejecting that awful garbage.
	11:40pm coelacanth∅: it still happens though... but how many actual bands get to a point where it's gonna matter who gets the songwriting credit? ...the bands we hear on wfmu that seem like they should go places are mostly never going to go far enough that they can give up their day jobs or collect significant royalties for composition.
	11:41pm Funky16Corners: Yes, indeed
	11:42pm Funky16Corners: And I should say I was brought up to reject Rand-ism, and I bring up my kids to do so as well. It's predatory.
	11:44pm Dean: Shit, I was brought up to subscribe to Randism, pretty much, and I reject it. Nobody with half a brain wouldn't! I'm not sure the bands played on WFMU whom we like deserve to "go places" by virtue of that fact. They are who they are, they do what they do.
	11:45pm Funky16Corners: Gotta do it because you love it, much like anything else in life
	11:46pm Dean: Yup.
	11:58pm coelacanth∅: heh -never considered if this song might've been released as a single.
	11:59pm Funky16Corners: I was surprised when I found it!
	12:00am coelacanth∅: (...actually i never considered that Garcia ever released ANY solo singles)
	12:06am Funky16Corners: There are a couple from around that time
	12:06am coelacanth∅: lost the wfmu site for a few minutes, but the audio stream still came through. weird
	12:06am Funky16Corners: Yeah, me too!
	12:08am Funky16Corners: I'm glad the stream kept going!
	12:08am coelacanth∅: ...i guess i just always thought of Garcia as "album music". (without consciously making that differentiation)
	12:08am coelacanth∅: ...Thanks! have a good night.
	12:09am Funky16Corners: You too!

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from November 8, 2017

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A roadmap that reveals the highways, byways, ley lines and subterranean tunnels connecting rock, soul, pop, folk rock, R&B, garage, punk, funk, jazz, world music, and soundtracks from the twilight of the 1950s to the dawn of the 1970s. Larry Grogan is a DJ, writer, podcaster, collector, and the man behind Funky16Corners.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format
Funky16Corners	Testify! Intro "Testify! Intro" by "Funky16Corners"	Best of Funky16Corners Volume One	Funky16Corners	2017	MP3
Eddie Bo	Every Dog Got It's Day "Every Dog Got It's Day" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Ric	1960	45
Eddie Bo	Falling In Love Again "Falling In Love Again" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Seven B	1966	45
Eddie Bo	Skate It Out "Skate It Out" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Seven B	1967	45
Eddie Bo	Fence of Love "Fence of Love" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Seven B	1967	45
Eddie Bo	S.G.B. "S.G.B." by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Seven B	1967	45
Eddie Bo and Inez Cheatham	Lover and a Friend	45RPM Single	Capitol	1968	45
Eddie Bo	Hook and Sling Pt1 "Hook and Sling Pt1" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Scram	1969	45
Eddie Bo and the Soul Finders	The Rubber Band Pt1	45RPM Single	Knight	1970	45
Eddie Bo	Can You Handle It "Can You Handle It" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Bo Sound	1969	45
Eddie Bo	Check Your Bucket Pt1 "Check Your Bucket Pt1" by "Eddie Bo"	45RPM Single	Grimm Ben	1970	45

The Association	Along Comes Mary "Along Comes Mary" by "The Association"	Along Comes the Association	Valiant	1966	LP
The Association	Message of Our Love	Along Comes the Association	Valiant	1966	LP
Afro Blues Quintet Plus One	Victims of Change	New Directions of the Afro Blues Quintet Plus One	Mira	1966	LP
Afro Blues Quintet Plus One	Incantation	New Directions of the Afro Blues Quintet Plus One	Mira	1966	LP
The Garden Club	Little Girl Lost and Found	45RPM Single	A&M	1967	45
Mister Lucky and the Gamblers	Alice Designs	45RPM Single	Panorama	1966	45
The Action	Shadows and Reflections	The Ultimate Action	Edsel	1967	LP
Karen Karsh	Musty Dusty "Musty Dusty" by "Karen Karsh"	45RPM Single	Dunhill	1968	45
Cal Tjader	Along Comes Mary "Along Comes Mary" by "Cal Tjader"	Along Comes Cal	Verve	1967	LP
The Beach Boys	Sail On Sailor "Sail On Sailor" by "The Beach Boys"	45RPM Single	Brother	1973	45

The Zombies	Is This The Dream "Is This The Dream" by "The Zombies"	time of the Zombies	Epic	1965	LP
The Zombies	She's Coming Home "She's Coming Home" by "The Zombies"	Time of the Zombies	Epic	1965	LP
The Zombies	If It Don't Work Out "If It Don't Work Out" by "The Zombies"	Time of the Zombies	Epic	1965	LP
The Zombies	I'll Call You Mine "I'll Call You Mine" by "The Zombies"	Time of the Zombies	Epic	1968	LP
The Zombies	Maybe After He's Gone	Odessey and Oracle	Epic	1968	LP
The Zombies	Hung Up On a Dream "Hung Up On a Dream" by "The Zombies"	Odessey and Oracle	Epic	1968	LP
Colin Blunstone	Caroline Goodbye "Caroline Goodbye" by "Colin Blunstone"	One Year	Epic	1971	LP

Bugsy Maugh	Rush Hour "Rush Hour" by "Bugsy Maugh"	Inside Bugsy	Dot	1969	LP
Diane Hildebrand	Early Morning Blues and Greens	Early Morning Blues and Greens	Elektra	1968	LP
Tupper Saussy and the Wayward Bus	Love Hum	45RPM Single	RCA	1968	45
Fairport Convention	She Moved Through the Fair	What We Did On Our Holidays	Island	1969	LP
Incredible String Band	The First Girl I Loved	The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion	Elektra	1967	LP
Sunny and the Sunliners	My Dream "My Dream" by "Sunny and the Sunliners"	45RPM Single	RPR	1969	45
Tom Northcott	Iron Pines "Iron Pines" by "Tom Northcott"	Upside Downside	UNI	1971	LP
Jerry Garcia	The Wheel "The Wheel" by "Jerry Garcia"	45RPM Single	Warner Brothers	1972	45

Rex Garvin and the Mighty Cravers	I Gotta Go Now (Up On the Floor)	45RPM Single	Like	1966	45

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Listener comments!
	10:01pm Gary: Yee-haw!
	10:02pm Funky16Corners: Hey Gary!
	10:02pm hyde: hi
	10:02pm Funky16Corners: Hey Hyde!
	10:03pm northguineahills: Finally, got sound again (laptop is stroking on me)
	10:04pm Jeff Ash: Man, that top of the hour sneaks up on you. But here I am, reporting from the shadow of Lambeau Field.
	10:04pm Funky16Corners: NGH, Jeff! Good evening!
	10:04pm cupcakejenny: Hi. I texted you
	10:05pm Funky16Corners: NGH you can't not have sound!
	10:05pm Funky16Corners: Hi Jenny!
	10:10pm northguineahills: Even w/o sound, there is music.
	10:10pm Funky16Corners: Hmmm, that sounds like a zen koan.
	10:13pm northguineahills: nah, just getting inside of the noggin of John Cage. wait, you're right, that would work as a flowing koan! If I had commentary from wfmu 24/7 I'd be a much more creative person!
	10:14pm Dean: I pretty sure Cage held that "without sound" is not the same as "silence."
	10:18pm Funky16Corners: But what would Cage have made of these funky New Orleans drums?
	10:19pm hyde: gotta go to sleep. night, friends
	10:20pm Funky16Corners: Nite Hyde!
	10:21pm Dean: He'd a dug 'em.
	10:22pm Funky16Corners: I suspect you're right!
	10:23pm Dean: NOLA sure dug him. http://www.acehotel.com/calendar/neworleans/untouchable-numbers-nola
	10:31pm northguineahills: @Dean: True, but even he recognized a human can't have a experience w/o sound as his experiences in the anechoic chambers. I love the Brainfreeze mix, a fave of mine!
	10:31pm northguineahills: I thought something sounded familiar.
	10:32pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, Brainfreeze is a killer!
	10:34pm Dean: I have always maintained that if I had to forgo a sense it would be sight, which I find mostly superfluous. But hearing? Never.
	10:34pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, no music, no fun, period.
	10:35pm Funky16Corners: And I mean "fun" in every sense
	10:39pm northguineahills: It's a tough call, but I agree.
	10:40pm Funky16Corners: Not that I'm volunteering to be blinded any time soon. Too many nice fall colors happening.
	10:43pm Dean: Nature's overrated in my book.
	10:46pm northguineahills: It was a common punishment for overthrown emperors of the Byzantium Empire b/c killing wouldn't be too "Xtian".
	10:49pm Funky16Corners: How nice of them!
	10:50pm doctorjazz: Hey, quick check in. Missed the Association (think that was the 1st or 2nd album I ever bought. Boy, what it wrought...)
	10:50pm Funky16Corners: Hey Doc!
	10:52pm doctorjazz: Doing my Town Crier routine-great show coming up in NYC newyork.carpediem.cd...
	10:53pm Funky16Corners: That looks interesting!
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: greetings Larry and others
	10:59pm Funky16Corners: Hey C!
	11:12pm coelacanth∅: Parks claims he was almost entirely responsible for sail on sailor. Wilson has said he basically wrote it with Ray Kennedy. ...who knows.
	11:13pm Funky16Corners: I suspect there was enough drugs going around that nobody knows for sure. I sure doesn't sound like it was written by a committee.
	11:14pm Dean: We should view skeptically anybody who claims almost entire responsibility for anything.
	11:15pm Funky16Corners: True that.
	11:17pm coelacanth∅: haha, yeah Larry. ...Dean it's really true; but on the other hand does a whole band always have to get writing credits for the respective instrumentalists' arrangements of their own parts? it must be hard to draw the line some times.
	11:18pm Funky16Corners: I think a lot of that, especially in the 60s was by prior arrangement.
	11:19pm Funky16Corners: I remember hearing stories about how Pete Townshend was driving around in a Jaguar while the rest of the Who were making ketchup soup in a coldwater flat
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: i've heard that, and similar stories with some others. ...maybe Pete really did pen everything but man he could've thrown 'em a fucking bone.
	11:23pm Dean: It is inherently hard, sometimes impossible, to draw the lines. We have copyright regimes designed to do the best we think we can do to promote creativity (whatever that is). Incentives, you know. But legal definitions don't prescribe historical ones.
	11:24pm coelacanth∅: ...you know Thom York composes all the lyrics and much of the music of radiohead, but all songs are credited to the whole band. it's just the kind of person he is. (i know other examples but can't think of them)
	11:26pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, as someone who's been in bands, there should be a feeling of brotherhood, unless ego forces an employer/employee thing, which breaks up bands
	11:27pm Dean: If that is correct, @ coelacanth∅, then I view Thom Yorke's practice as nothing more than a way of spreading blame. That's because I utterly don't get Radiohead.
	11:32pm Funky16Corners: I would not be surprised to discover that agreements of that sort are few and far between these days.
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: nor would i.
	11:36pm Funky16Corners: These being harsher times in which communal feelings are often sandwiched between copies of Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead
	11:38pm Dean: These are not harsher times. Rand was publishing her bestsellers in the '40s and '50s.
	11:39pm Dean: Put another way, we're reaping what we have sown.
	11:40pm Funky16Corners: To borrow an old phrase, "Who is this we you speak of keemosabe?" Some of us have made a lifes work or rejecting that awful garbage.
	11:40pm coelacanth∅: it still happens though... but how many actual bands get to a point where it's gonna matter who gets the songwriting credit? ...the bands we hear on wfmu that seem like they should go places are mostly never going to go far enough that they can give up their day jobs or collect significant royalties for composition.
	11:41pm Funky16Corners: Yes, indeed
	11:42pm Funky16Corners: And I should say I was brought up to reject Rand-ism, and I bring up my kids to do so as well. It's predatory.
	11:44pm Dean: Shit, I was brought up to subscribe to Randism, pretty much, and I reject it. Nobody with half a brain wouldn't! I'm not sure the bands played on WFMU whom we like deserve to "go places" by virtue of that fact. They are who they are, they do what they do.
	11:45pm Funky16Corners: Gotta do it because you love it, much like anything else in life
	11:46pm Dean: Yup.
	11:58pm coelacanth∅: heh -never considered if this song might've been released as a single.
	11:59pm Funky16Corners: I was surprised when I found it!
	12:00am coelacanth∅: (...actually i never considered that Garcia ever released ANY solo singles)
	12:06am Funky16Corners: There are a couple from around that time
	12:06am coelacanth∅: lost the wfmu site for a few minutes, but the audio stream still came through. weird
	12:06am Funky16Corners: Yeah, me too!
	12:08am Funky16Corners: I'm glad the stream kept going!
	12:08am coelacanth∅: ...i guess i just always thought of Garcia as "album music". (without consciously making that differentiation)
	12:08am coelacanth∅: ...Thanks! have a good night.
	12:09am Funky16Corners: You too!

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from November 8, 2017

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