WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 25, 2017

Listener comments!
	6:00pm melinda: Howdy!
	6:01pm geezerette: Yo!
	6:01pm Mark Hurst: Welcome, everyone! Hi, Melinda - hi, geezerette!
	6:10pm Michael 98145: An interesting timeline: www.netvalley.com... No, we didn't anticipate all this back in 1990 ...
	6:11pm chris: hi, everyone. here's a link to the letter site - copenhagenletter.org signed.
	6:12pm davidellsworth: casino's have great food! :-)
	6:12pm Fox: It's not just tech, it's all art and media through the modern lens of the tech age. Every art school graduate I've met under 35 (especially who has graduated from FIT) treats art like a commodity; something that is judged in clicks and likes, in quick turnover and successful branding.
	6:15pm davidellsworth: Should evolve into a class action
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: Here's Jessamyn's story so far: medium.com...
	6:16pm chris: one of the best overviews of the equifax breech and what it means to you - www.kalzumeus.com...
	6:16pm geezerette: @Fox, you are so right. It's frightening, the sameness of absolutely everything.
	6:17pm geezerette: It's unsustainable and extremely destructive.
	6:21pm Dean: I'll recommend a (by now) old book by Kevin Robins & Frank Webster, The Times of the Technoculture: From the Information Society to the Virtual Life. It's a good antidote, then and now, to unrealistic claims about technology.
	6:24pm davidellsworth: www.consumer.ftc.gov...
	6:26pm geezerette: Dean, I used to read Wired when it was new and it consisted entirely of hype. Early warning.
	6:26pm geezerette: It's a mine field.
	6:28pm Dean: I abandoned Wired a l-o-n-g time ago. I can't fathom the naivete.
	6:29pm chris: don't do it! 1) their security sucks 2) you are clicking away your right to sue them. do not use the equifax site to see if you were effected by the breach (breech?).
	6:32pm Dean: Also, I have a hard time reading a magazine in which I can't distinguish the content from the ads.
	6:32pm geezerette: Dean, I actually read it to see how the growing industry represented itself to rest of us. Head smacking!
	6:32pm Switchblade Batman: I'd say, it's a job for the Bureau of Consumer Protection. If it hasn't been completely gutted.
	6:33pm northguineahills: Nice discussion. Time to leave work, laters woofmooers!
	6:34pm geezerette: Hasta la vista,NGH. :)
	6:34pm T: Smart talk.
	6:34pm chris: the FTC is investigating criminal charges against the equifax senior managers who sold stock prior to the announcement of the breach. its a start. the CPB should be making equifax pay to let consumers know if they were effected and how to address it.
	6:34pm davidellsworth: When I entered my last name and last 6 of my SSAN they came back with "Thank You, based on the information provided, we believe that your personal information may have been impacted by this incident. Click the button below to continue your enrollment in TrustedID Partner. Enroll.
	6:37pm melinda: The Equifax site told me I was not affected by the breach. Whew. But then I read articles about how vulnerable everyone is regardless and all the crap you have to do to protect your identity. Some day I will do it.
	6:37pm south jersey listener: Isn’t the problem here the fact that all these companies are run by folks who know nothing about technology. And they rely on IT people who are only concerned with keeping their CEO’s in the dark. Ensuring job security. They don’t want things secure.
	6:41pm geezerette: !!!
	6:44pm chris: i would say, here's my letter of resignation (i.e. go to hell)... its probably inevitable, but its a bad precedent, and i'll bow out, thank you. :) #keepyourchipsoutofme
	6:44pm geezerette: Mark,exactly! Our culture is changing so fast we almost can't see it, which is why your show is such a valuable addition to lineup.
	6:45pm herb.nyc: Acceptable in society? The idea of privacy has been heavily diluted. -- As for chips in hand, has any company used BARCODES on employees? It could be linked to ID and other things. I'd demand a lil kitten icon next to my barcode.
	6:49pm Fox: The implant isn't too different a concept from the EZ-Pass or credit card linked MetroCard.
	6:50pm melinda: Hell no the chip.
	6:52pm south jersey listener: The collection of Data fell upon deaf ears and my kids school. They use google classroom for everything because it’s “cheap”. I asked if they were concerned about google gathering all this info and all I got Wes’s silence. And they weren’t sure what google was doing with our children’s info.
	6:56pm herb.nyc: Aside- TOUCH makes me think of Ken Stringfellow's TOUCHED cd, released 9/11/01. Amazing set of songs.
	6:56pm melinda: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Michael 98145: yes, thank you
	6:57pm chris: my opinion is that there's no point in knowing that one's information was stolen. its out there in any number of ways already. i will keep an eye on my credit report and address it with this advice - www.kalzumeus.com...
	6:57pm geezerette: Thanks, Mark!
	6:57pm chris: great show! thanks, Mark. important stuff.
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Here's that NYT story about the embedded chips - www.nytimes.com...
	8:32am Mary Aviles: Equifax is not the first of the big three/four to have these issues of course. Experian has also had major security breaches. Here's a link to an interactive infographic you might find interesting: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/worlds-biggest-data-breaches-hacks/

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 25, 2017

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Mon. Nov 4th, 6pm - 7pm: Dystopia update (More info...)
Chatbots are now running rampant - appearing in new-model cars - as we're being told to "be nice to chatbots." Stores are using "digital price tags," which rely on surveillance to set the price to the company's liking. Meantime, Google's AI is giving wrong answers, in some cases, almost half the time. All these and more in Mark's dystopia update.
Mon. Dec 23rd, 6pm - 7pm: Don Fleming guest hosts Techtonic

September 25, 2017: Jessamyn West sues Equifax; the Copenhagen Letter challenges techies to do better

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
This week, a challenge for techies and designers to focus more on the humans who are affected by technology. Mark talks about "The Copenhagen Letter." Also, a call from Jessamyn West, who has begun her own lawsuit against Equifax.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack	0:01:03 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	The Copenhagen Letter "The Copenhagen Letter" by "Mark Hurst"		0:05:36 (Pop-up)
Jessamyn West	The Techtonic Interview		0:14:03 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	The Grandparent Scam "The Grandparent Scam" by "Mark Hurst"		0:25:03 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	Phone Calls "Phone Calls" by "Mark Hurst"		0:30:00 (Pop-up)
Mudboy	Swamp Thing "Swamp Thing" by "Mudboy"		0:39:04 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	Uncanny Valley "Uncanny Valley" by "Mark Hurst"		0:39:17 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm melinda: Howdy!
	6:01pm geezerette: Yo!
	6:01pm Mark Hurst: Welcome, everyone! Hi, Melinda - hi, geezerette!
	6:10pm Michael 98145: An interesting timeline: www.netvalley.com... No, we didn't anticipate all this back in 1990 ...
	6:11pm chris: hi, everyone. here's a link to the letter site - copenhagenletter.org signed.
	6:12pm davidellsworth: casino's have great food! :-)
	6:12pm Fox: It's not just tech, it's all art and media through the modern lens of the tech age. Every art school graduate I've met under 35 (especially who has graduated from FIT) treats art like a commodity; something that is judged in clicks and likes, in quick turnover and successful branding.
	6:15pm davidellsworth: Should evolve into a class action
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: Here's Jessamyn's story so far: medium.com...
	6:16pm chris: one of the best overviews of the equifax breech and what it means to you - www.kalzumeus.com...
	6:16pm geezerette: @Fox, you are so right. It's frightening, the sameness of absolutely everything.
	6:17pm geezerette: It's unsustainable and extremely destructive.
	6:21pm Dean: I'll recommend a (by now) old book by Kevin Robins & Frank Webster, The Times of the Technoculture: From the Information Society to the Virtual Life. It's a good antidote, then and now, to unrealistic claims about technology.
	6:24pm davidellsworth: www.consumer.ftc.gov...
	6:26pm geezerette: Dean, I used to read Wired when it was new and it consisted entirely of hype. Early warning.
	6:26pm geezerette: It's a mine field.
	6:28pm Dean: I abandoned Wired a l-o-n-g time ago. I can't fathom the naivete.
	6:29pm chris: don't do it! 1) their security sucks 2) you are clicking away your right to sue them. do not use the equifax site to see if you were effected by the breach (breech?).
	6:32pm Dean: Also, I have a hard time reading a magazine in which I can't distinguish the content from the ads.
	6:32pm geezerette: Dean, I actually read it to see how the growing industry represented itself to rest of us. Head smacking!
	6:32pm Switchblade Batman: I'd say, it's a job for the Bureau of Consumer Protection. If it hasn't been completely gutted.
	6:33pm northguineahills: Nice discussion. Time to leave work, laters woofmooers!
	6:34pm geezerette: Hasta la vista,NGH. :)
	6:34pm T: Smart talk.
	6:34pm chris: the FTC is investigating criminal charges against the equifax senior managers who sold stock prior to the announcement of the breach. its a start. the CPB should be making equifax pay to let consumers know if they were effected and how to address it.
	6:34pm davidellsworth: When I entered my last name and last 6 of my SSAN they came back with "Thank You, based on the information provided, we believe that your personal information may have been impacted by this incident. Click the button below to continue your enrollment in TrustedID Partner. Enroll.
	6:37pm melinda: The Equifax site told me I was not affected by the breach. Whew. But then I read articles about how vulnerable everyone is regardless and all the crap you have to do to protect your identity. Some day I will do it.
	6:37pm south jersey listener: Isn’t the problem here the fact that all these companies are run by folks who know nothing about technology. And they rely on IT people who are only concerned with keeping their CEO’s in the dark. Ensuring job security. They don’t want things secure.
	6:41pm geezerette: !!!
	6:44pm chris: i would say, here's my letter of resignation (i.e. go to hell)... its probably inevitable, but its a bad precedent, and i'll bow out, thank you. :) #keepyourchipsoutofme
	6:44pm geezerette: Mark,exactly! Our culture is changing so fast we almost can't see it, which is why your show is such a valuable addition to lineup.
	6:45pm herb.nyc: Acceptable in society? The idea of privacy has been heavily diluted. -- As for chips in hand, has any company used BARCODES on employees? It could be linked to ID and other things. I'd demand a lil kitten icon next to my barcode.
	6:49pm Fox: The implant isn't too different a concept from the EZ-Pass or credit card linked MetroCard.
	6:50pm melinda: Hell no the chip.
	6:52pm south jersey listener: The collection of Data fell upon deaf ears and my kids school. They use google classroom for everything because it’s “cheap”. I asked if they were concerned about google gathering all this info and all I got Wes’s silence. And they weren’t sure what google was doing with our children’s info.
	6:56pm herb.nyc: Aside- TOUCH makes me think of Ken Stringfellow's TOUCHED cd, released 9/11/01. Amazing set of songs.
	6:56pm melinda: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Michael 98145: yes, thank you
	6:57pm chris: my opinion is that there's no point in knowing that one's information was stolen. its out there in any number of ways already. i will keep an eye on my credit report and address it with this advice - www.kalzumeus.com...
	6:57pm geezerette: Thanks, Mark!
	6:57pm chris: great show! thanks, Mark. important stuff.
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Here's that NYT story about the embedded chips - www.nytimes.com...
	8:32am Mary Aviles: Equifax is not the first of the big three/four to have these issues of course. Experian has also had major security breaches. Here's a link to an interactive infographic you might find interesting: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/worlds-biggest-data-breaches-hacks/

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 25, 2017

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