WFMU: Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from August 23, 2017

Listener comments!
	10:02pm hyde: hi
	10:03pm geezerette: Ears open!
	♥ 10:03pm Funky16Corners: Good evening!
	♥ 10:04pm Funky16Corners: I hope everyone is well
	🥁 ♥ 10:05pm Gary: I'm not well (lingering summer cold), but please carry on!
	♥ 10:06pm Funky16Corners: Sorry to hear that. I hope you find the music soothing.
	♥ 10:06pm coelacanth∅: hello Larry and all
	♥ 10:06pm Funky16Corners: It has been a bitch of week allergy-wise
	🥁 ♥ 10:06pm Gary: I'm taking you in my phone to bed
	♥ 10:06pm Funky16Corners: Hi C!
	♥ 10:07pm Funky16Corners: Gary - To paraphrase Jimmy Breslin's old beer ad, 'This is a good listening show!' Your ears will be happy
	♥ 10:07pm Funky16Corners: I hope
	🥁 ♥ 10:07pm Jeff Ash: Greetings from Green Bay!
	♥ 10:08pm Funky16Corners: Hey Jeff!
	♥ 10:08pm Funky16Corners: Did you stop at Kroger on the way over for beer pong supplies?
	10:08pm geezerette: Lovely. Nervous system says thanks!
	♥ 10:09pm Funky16Corners: Excellent!
	♥ 10:09pm Cubs Win: Greets!
	♥ 10:09pm Funky16Corners: Hey Unk!
	♥ 10:10pm Uncle Michael: Hello, Larry! (McLean Stephenson joke)
	♥ 10:10pm Funky16Corners: George Memmoli, we hardly knew ye
	♥ 10:11pm Uncle Michael: Ruth Brown was on that show!
	♥ 10:11pm Funky16Corners: Really?!?
	♥ 10:12pm Uncle Michael: Yep.
	♥ 10:13pm Funky16Corners: As a regular?
	10:15pm hyde: love the show! but must be a short timer. farewell my friends
	♥ 10:15pm Uncle Michael: It's funny, I grew up with Traffic records as a kid. Then I didn't pay them much mind...but when that Smiling Phases comp came out in the '90s I fell hard again. Then I got to see them open a couple of Dead shows...very cool.
	♥ 10:15pm Funky16Corners: Wow! I just looked it up. I forgot that it was a Diffrent Strokes spinoff
	♥ 10:17pm Funky16Corners: Love Traffic. Spent a lot of 17-year-old money buying an import LP of John Barleycorn Must Die
	10:18pm Mike Sin: It took me a long time to finally start listening to music completely with my ears, as it were, and when I finally did, the first two Traffic albums became totally mesmerizing and hypnotizing experiences.
	♥ 10:18pm Uncle Michael: In middle school I wore the hell out of Low Spark, Barleycorn and Shoot Out.
	10:18pm geezerette: C U, Hyde. Same,I'll be listening, not looking.
	♥ 10:18pm Funky16Corners: Hey Mike!
	♥ 10:19pm Funky16Corners: Nite guys
	♥ 10:19pm Funky16Corners: Low Spark was a fixture on my post-highschool stoner playlist
	10:19pm cupcakejenny: Sean just recognized this song. It's in Trolls.
	♥ 10:20pm Funky16Corners: No kidding!
	♥ 10:20pm Funky16Corners: Hi Sean!
	♥ 10:21pm Funky16Corners: Back to Hello Larry, I never realized that John Femia was in that show before Square Pegs
	10:22pm cupcakejenny: Ha we're along about the song in the movie and miles came in, listened, and said oh yeah, it's Clint Eastwood. These two.
	10:22pm cupcakejenny: Along = talking
	♥ 10:22pm Funky16Corners: Smart kids. Good ears. Family trait.
	♥ 10:23pm Uncle Michael: Mike, I didn't know the first two albums till I was college-age. I don't know how I came to listen to those other ones so hard when I was 14.
	♥ 10:23pm Funky16Corners: They were getting a LOT of play on FM rock radio
	♥ 10:26pm Uncle Michael: No FM at boarding school...just the LPs. An older cousin probably gave me one of them.
	♥ 10:27pm Funky16Corners: That's always good. I had a cousin gift me all the early Genesis LPs, which I would have missed for a years otherwise
	♥ 10:27pm Doug Schulkind: Professor Grogan!
	♥ 10:27pm Funky16Corners: Hey Doug!
	♥ 10:37pm Doug Schulkind: One of my beloveds. Can't listen to him without weeping.
	♥ 10:38pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, it's even moreso if you know his story
	10:38pm cupcakejenny: You'll have to play that for them tomorrow. They just went to bed. :)
	♥ 10:38pm Uncle Michael: The keyboard is about to take a break from me. Thanks in advance for the rest of the show, Larry. Night all.
	♥ 10:38pm Funky16Corners: Will do
	♥ 10:39pm Funky16Corners: Thanks for stopping by Michael
	♥ 10:39pm Doug Schulkind: What a story.
	♥ 10:40pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, so sad, so much promise
	♥ 10:45pm Doug Schulkind: Of course, if he hadn't been in the hospital recovering from his burns, he may never have been given a guitar and learned to play.
	♥ 10:46pm Funky16Corners: True, but it seems like he had to learn that, to make his mark, and then continue on into oblivion. It's poetic and tragic at the same time
	♥ 10:49pm Doug Schulkind: One could do a full-length radio show presenting exclusively artists whose lives were destroyed (or nearly so) by horrendous misdiagnosis of illness or mental illness. So many creative geniuses who were sick but thought to be merely junkies by someone wearing a white coat.
	10:49pm geezerette: Had to come back to say I was galvanized and had to see who that was. Such beauty and sorrow. Stories like that make me nuts. Grateful for all this. Off again, tip of imaginary hat.
	♥ 10:50pm Funky16Corners: Yes indeed. Drake was the same way. It was like he was put here in earth for a very brief time to make his beautiful music and then was snatched back into the ether.
	♥ 10:50pm Funky16Corners: Thanks G!
	♥ 10:52pm coelacanth∅: 'night g
	♥ 10:53pm Funky16Corners: Doug - Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Monk. and guys that were trapped in prison for prime years like Tadd Dameron and Hank Mobley
	♥ 10:56pm doctorjazz: Hi-dug the Nick Drake set, and what can I say about Skip James... Great listening!
	♥ 10:57pm Doug Schulkind: Eric Dolphy, whose diabetic shock was thought to be an OD. Mongezi Feza, dies of pneumonia while locked in an asylum.
	♥ 10:57pm Funky16Corners: Hey Dr!
	11:00pm Rich in NC: Hello all
	♥ 11:02pm coelacanth∅: Katell Keineg has a beautiful version of river man as well.
	11:03pm Parq: Doug, Jeez! I never heard those stories! This savage "health care" culture we have in this country is just incredible.
	♥ 11:04pm Funky16Corners: Health care, racism, institutional and otherwise
	♥ 11:04pm coelacanth∅: James was very bitter about being "ignored" for all those years and didn't embrace his "rediscovery" very gracefully. -'probably didn't do his health any good.
	♥ 11:05pm Doug Schulkind: Rediscover this, muthahfuckah.
	♥ 11:06pm Funky16Corners: The whole wave of rediscovery is rife with issues of race, class etc. I'm thankful it happened though
	♥ 11:06pm Funky16Corners: Selfish, I know, but all of that music
	♥ 11:07pm coelacanth∅: yeah - though John Hurt seemed to have a good time with his rediscovery.
	♥ 11:07pm Funky16Corners: John Hurt was a saintly fellow, in every way. His music brings me a great deal of peace and happiness
	♥ 11:09pm coelacanth∅: damn...now i forget who's quote this is; a female i think, who said "i didn't need no 're-discovering'. i knew where i was the whole time."
	11:09pm Dean: Mendelssohn rediscovered Bach. Or is that not exactly rediscovery? Anyway, I'm thankful that happened.
	♥ 11:10pm Funky16Corners: I'd rather we have Skip James music to talk about now, than trapped in a stack of shellac 78s in a landfill somewhere.
	11:12pm Parq: I remember hearing the Flamingos track when I first, as a 17 year old, saw American Graffiti. I was stunned. Ever since then, I have felt it was one of the most gorgeous vocal performances, to say nothing of the languid and redolent arrangement, I've ever heard.
	♥ 11:13pm Funky16Corners: That's where it got me too! One of the finest pieces of recorded music ever.
	♥ 11:13pm coelacanth∅: i do not feel at all ashamed to agree with that sentiment. it's not any more selfish than taking a cookie that someone baked then left behind.
	♥ 11:14pm coelacanth∅: (re: 11:10)
	♥ 11:14pm Funky16Corners: Hopefully Skip, and Mississippi John and Son House, and Robert Johnson are off in the ether somewhere smiling because people love the music they made so much
	♥ 11:15pm Doug Schulkind: Beyond rediscovery, discovery itself has been bumpy and problematic process for many. Conscientious debaters have both supported and criticized the John/Alan Lomax phenomenon. (I come down on the pro side, but with sensitivity to concerns thoughtfully raised.) I agree with you, Larry, that it is way better to have found/preserved than not.
	♥ 11:16pm Funky16Corners: Yes. The same goes for most recorded ethnography. The methods/reasons/ethics were often problematic, but those moments were captured forever
	♥ 11:17pm Funky16Corners: And speaking of 'greatest records ever made'...
	♥ 11:19pm coelacanth∅: i agree with you Doug. yes there are concerns - not least of which who benefited by far the most from those recordings, monetarily...but then - would any, if not more than a very few, of those artists have ever gotten anything at all if it weren't for the Lomaxes?
	11:20pm Parq: Yeah. Can you believe this got heavy AM radio play?
	♥ 11:20pm Funky16Corners: Drilled right into my 10 year old head by WABC-AM
	🥁 ♥ 11:21pm Jeff Ash: Might I say that this evening's program thus far is a throwback to the late-night free-form FM radio I grew up with in the early to mid-'70s. The silence of the night taken in unexpected directions, with plenty of head space for sussing out what it all means, or what it might mean.
	♥ 11:21pm Funky16Corners: That was certainly my intention. I'm very happy you picked up on it.
	♥ 11:23pm Funky16Corners: Can we get Norman Whitfield's head carved into a mountain somewhere?
	♥ 11:23pm coelacanth∅: the temps themselves thought it was craziness! (and resented that the instrumentation was such a big part of it)
	🥁 ♥ 11:23pm Jeff Ash: Amen, Brother Larry!
	♥ 11:23pm Funky16Corners: Hang in, it's going to get even Temptationier and intrumentier!
	♥ 11:24pm Funky16Corners: I don't think for a minute that Whitfield could have done it without the Tempts
	♥ 11:26pm Funky16Corners: This is the sound of the radio buried next to my pillow in 1972, with the volume low enough that my folks couldn't tell I was still up at midnight
	11:27pm Dean: I'm catching a whiff of ends-means rationalization. I'm a librarian, which means I'm at least professionally in favor of preservation. But it occurs to me, as it never has before, that librarians and archivists strive to collect and preserve with an eye almost exclusively trained on the future, i.e., for generations of readers/listeners/viewers to come, rather than to credit the creators.
	♥ 11:28pm doctorjazz: I had one of those pillow radios in my teens...
	♥ 11:28pm coelacanth∅: haha,no! he had a vision but they didn't dig it. some members never got comfortable with the change in style that he steered them into. (i think that's why Ruffin left, eventually...?)
	♥ 11:28pm Funky16Corners: I think all we can do at this point is rationalize. I'm not going to stop listening.
	♥ 11:28pm Doug Schulkind: On this all debaters universally agree: Larry Grogan is a treasure.
	♥ 11:29pm Funky16Corners: Don't bury me!!
	11:30pm geezerette: Here I am again. Anyone who hasn't seen Robert Flaherty's "Moana" with soundtrack of carefully restored field recordings of traditional Samoan music, must do so. His daughter Monica was responsible for the project. en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 11:30pm Funky16Corners: I think Ruffin and Kendriks were both long overdue for a solo shot. I think it's a crime Levi Stubbs never really got to step out on his own from the Tops
	♥ 11:30pm Doug Schulkind: Ha!
	♥ 11:30pm coelacanth∅: (...i think i'm mistaken about Ruffin. he may've left before that recording)
	♥ 11:31pm Funky16Corners: That Moana looks really interesting
	♥ 11:31pm Funky16Corners: Now here's one that ought to be billed as 'Norman Whitfield with a special guest appearance by the Temptations'
	🥁 ♥ 11:32pm Jeff Ash: Dang it, Larry, you're gonna make me pull out all my Tempts records, and probably all the Undisputed Truth, too.
	11:32pm Parq: What Doug said (@11:28) adjusted to accommodate Larry's request (@ 11:29).
	♥ 11:33pm Funky16Corners: You can however dig me up as often as needed
	♥ 11:33pm Funky16Corners: Someday I'm going to twist someone's arm into making a Whitfield boxed set
	11:34pm geezerette: You are all treasures. Moana is stunning. Good night,all.
	11:34pm Dean: We have no choice but to rationalize, true. But when we listen, we probably owe it to ourselves and to the artists to do so critically.
	♥ 11:34pm Funky16Corners: Listen to that rhythm guitar ringing in the background, like six string metronome
	♥ 11:34pm Funky16Corners: Nite Geezerette!
	♥ 11:35pm Funky16Corners: @DEan - ALWAYS...also I've had many stern discussions trying to disabuse people of romantic/stereotypical ideas about old time blues singers
	♥ 11:36pm Funky16Corners: The same goes for trash rock/R&B/garage fans who idolize people they think are drunken wildmen
	♥ 11:37pm Funky16Corners: Who were working musicians/creative people
	11:37pm Dean: And, I'll repeat, for Bach.
	♥ 11:37pm doctorjazz: We got the funk riff there...
	♥ 11:39pm coelacanth∅: show business...or i guess in some cases snow business.
	♥ 11:39pm Funky16Corners: Or, as the late Jerry Lewis might have said, "The business we call show"
	♥ 11:42pm Funky16Corners: Get ready, Whitfield is about to jettison the Tempts and exit the stratosphere completely
	🥁 ♥ 11:47pm Jeff Ash: Note to self. Pick up that "Car Wash" soundtrack you have seen so many times while record digging.
	♥ 11:47pm coelacanth∅: earlier today someone said Iggy Pop is a vegetarian and rarely drinks (which really shouldn't surprise anyone with open eyes)...but it reminded me - though i didn't mention it then, that i've had a hypothesis for years now that Keith Richards is not the party animal people think he is; and maybe never has been.
	♥ 11:48pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, a while back when I found out that Whitfield had done a bunch of instrumental music for the movie I grabbed it
	♥ 11:49pm Funky16Corners: @C- I agree. I always thought it served Mick and Keef's purposes to APPEAR to be dissapated aristocrats, but they never would have gotten this old if they really were as marinated in chemicals
	11:50pm Dean: Is it true that Hank Crawford was the saxophonist planned for this Washington record?
	♥ 11:51pm Funky16Corners: I hadn't heard that, though it's certainly feasible
	♥ 11:53pm Funky16Corners: I'll have to play more of the early 70s Grover stuff in the future
	♥ 11:55pm doctorjazz: Sax seems to be Grover according to Wikipedia... Great sounds, thanks!
	♥ 11:59pm Funky16Corners: Thanks for listening!
	♥ 12:00am coelacanth∅: Thanks Larry! gnight
	♥ 12:00am Funky16Corners: Nite C!

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from August 23, 2017

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Approx. start time
Funky16Corners	Testify! Intro "Testify! Intro" by "Funky16Corners"	Best of Funky16Corners Volume One	Funky16Corners	2017	MP3
Joni Mitchell	Barangrill "Barangrill" by "Joni Mitchell"	For The Roses	Reprise	1972	CD	0:02:04 (Pop-up)
Fareed Haque	Carry On "Carry On" by "Fareed Haque"	Deja Vu	Blue Note	1997	CD	0:04:50 (Pop-up)
Traffic	40,000 Headmen "40,000 Headmen" by "Traffic"	Traffic	Island	1968	LP	0:12:21 (Pop-up)
Gorillaz	Clint Eastwood "Clint Eastwood" by "Gorillaz"	Gorillaz	Parlophone	2001	CD	0:15:35 (Pop-up)
Bob Dylan	Desolation Row "Desolation Row" by "Bob Dylan"	Highway 61 Revisited	Columbia	1965	LP	0:21:11 (Pop-up)

Jackson C Frank	Blues Run the Game	Blues Run the Game	Columbia	1965	CD	0:37:17 (Pop-up)
Nick Drake	Here Come the Blues "Here Come the Blues" by "Nick Drake"	Bedroom Tapes	Bootleg	1968	CD	0:40:08 (Pop-up)
Nick Drake	River Man "River Man" by "Nick Drake"	Five Leaves Left	Island	1969	CD	0:43:57 (Pop-up)
Nick Drake	THree Hours "THree Hours" by "Nick Drake"	Five Leave Left	Island	1969	CD	0:48:14 (Pop-up)
Skip James	Hard Time Killing Floor Blues	Hard Time Killing Floor Blues	Vanguard	1966	CD	0:54:21 (Pop-up)
Jellyfish	Russian Hill "Russian Hill" by "Jellyfish"	Spilt Milk	Charisma	1993	CD	1:03:44 (Pop-up)
The Flamingos	I Only Have Eyes For You	Flamingo Serenade	End	1959	LP	1:07:51 (Pop-up)
Ray Lamontagne	Be Here Now "Be Here Now" by "Ray Lamontagne"	Til the Sun Turns Black	RCA	2006	CD	1:11:43 (Pop-up)
The Temptations	Papa Was a Rolling Stone	45RPM Single	Gordy	1972	45	1:17:14 (Pop-up)
The Temptations	Masterpiece "Masterpiece" by "The Temptations"	Masterpiece	Gordy	1973	LP	1:29:12 (Pop-up)
Norman Whitfield/Rose Royce	Water	Car Wash OST	MCA	1976	LP	1:42:53 (Pop-up)
Grover Washington Jr	Inner City Blues	Inner City Blues	Kudu	1971	LP	1:46:20 (Pop-up)
Rex Garvin and the Might Cravers	I Gotta Go Now (Up On the Floor)	45RPM Single	Like	1966	45	1:59:10 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:02pm hyde: hi
	10:03pm geezerette: Ears open!
	♥ 10:03pm Funky16Corners: Good evening!
	♥ 10:04pm Funky16Corners: I hope everyone is well
	🥁 ♥ 10:05pm Gary: I'm not well (lingering summer cold), but please carry on!
	♥ 10:06pm Funky16Corners: Sorry to hear that. I hope you find the music soothing.
	♥ 10:06pm coelacanth∅: hello Larry and all
	♥ 10:06pm Funky16Corners: It has been a bitch of week allergy-wise
	🥁 ♥ 10:06pm Gary: I'm taking you in my phone to bed
	♥ 10:06pm Funky16Corners: Hi C!
	♥ 10:07pm Funky16Corners: Gary - To paraphrase Jimmy Breslin's old beer ad, 'This is a good listening show!' Your ears will be happy
	♥ 10:07pm Funky16Corners: I hope
	🥁 ♥ 10:07pm Jeff Ash: Greetings from Green Bay!
	♥ 10:08pm Funky16Corners: Hey Jeff!
	♥ 10:08pm Funky16Corners: Did you stop at Kroger on the way over for beer pong supplies?
	10:08pm geezerette: Lovely. Nervous system says thanks!
	♥ 10:09pm Funky16Corners: Excellent!
	♥ 10:09pm Cubs Win: Greets!
	♥ 10:09pm Funky16Corners: Hey Unk!
	♥ 10:10pm Uncle Michael: Hello, Larry! (McLean Stephenson joke)
	♥ 10:10pm Funky16Corners: George Memmoli, we hardly knew ye
	♥ 10:11pm Uncle Michael: Ruth Brown was on that show!
	♥ 10:11pm Funky16Corners: Really?!?
	♥ 10:12pm Uncle Michael: Yep.
	♥ 10:13pm Funky16Corners: As a regular?
	10:15pm hyde: love the show! but must be a short timer. farewell my friends
	♥ 10:15pm Uncle Michael: It's funny, I grew up with Traffic records as a kid. Then I didn't pay them much mind...but when that Smiling Phases comp came out in the '90s I fell hard again. Then I got to see them open a couple of Dead shows...very cool.
	♥ 10:15pm Funky16Corners: Wow! I just looked it up. I forgot that it was a Diffrent Strokes spinoff
	♥ 10:17pm Funky16Corners: Love Traffic. Spent a lot of 17-year-old money buying an import LP of John Barleycorn Must Die
	10:18pm Mike Sin: It took me a long time to finally start listening to music completely with my ears, as it were, and when I finally did, the first two Traffic albums became totally mesmerizing and hypnotizing experiences.
	♥ 10:18pm Uncle Michael: In middle school I wore the hell out of Low Spark, Barleycorn and Shoot Out.
	10:18pm geezerette: C U, Hyde. Same,I'll be listening, not looking.
	♥ 10:18pm Funky16Corners: Hey Mike!
	♥ 10:19pm Funky16Corners: Nite guys
	♥ 10:19pm Funky16Corners: Low Spark was a fixture on my post-highschool stoner playlist
	10:19pm cupcakejenny: Sean just recognized this song. It's in Trolls.
	♥ 10:20pm Funky16Corners: No kidding!
	♥ 10:20pm Funky16Corners: Hi Sean!
	♥ 10:21pm Funky16Corners: Back to Hello Larry, I never realized that John Femia was in that show before Square Pegs
	10:22pm cupcakejenny: Ha we're along about the song in the movie and miles came in, listened, and said oh yeah, it's Clint Eastwood. These two.
	10:22pm cupcakejenny: Along = talking
	♥ 10:22pm Funky16Corners: Smart kids. Good ears. Family trait.
	♥ 10:23pm Uncle Michael: Mike, I didn't know the first two albums till I was college-age. I don't know how I came to listen to those other ones so hard when I was 14.
	♥ 10:23pm Funky16Corners: They were getting a LOT of play on FM rock radio
	♥ 10:26pm Uncle Michael: No FM at boarding school...just the LPs. An older cousin probably gave me one of them.
	♥ 10:27pm Funky16Corners: That's always good. I had a cousin gift me all the early Genesis LPs, which I would have missed for a years otherwise
	♥ 10:27pm Doug Schulkind: Professor Grogan!
	♥ 10:27pm Funky16Corners: Hey Doug!
	♥ 10:37pm Doug Schulkind: One of my beloveds. Can't listen to him without weeping.
	♥ 10:38pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, it's even moreso if you know his story
	10:38pm cupcakejenny: You'll have to play that for them tomorrow. They just went to bed. :)
	♥ 10:38pm Uncle Michael: The keyboard is about to take a break from me. Thanks in advance for the rest of the show, Larry. Night all.
	♥ 10:38pm Funky16Corners: Will do
	♥ 10:39pm Funky16Corners: Thanks for stopping by Michael
	♥ 10:39pm Doug Schulkind: What a story.
	♥ 10:40pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, so sad, so much promise
	♥ 10:45pm Doug Schulkind: Of course, if he hadn't been in the hospital recovering from his burns, he may never have been given a guitar and learned to play.
	♥ 10:46pm Funky16Corners: True, but it seems like he had to learn that, to make his mark, and then continue on into oblivion. It's poetic and tragic at the same time
	♥ 10:49pm Doug Schulkind: One could do a full-length radio show presenting exclusively artists whose lives were destroyed (or nearly so) by horrendous misdiagnosis of illness or mental illness. So many creative geniuses who were sick but thought to be merely junkies by someone wearing a white coat.
	10:49pm geezerette: Had to come back to say I was galvanized and had to see who that was. Such beauty and sorrow. Stories like that make me nuts. Grateful for all this. Off again, tip of imaginary hat.
	♥ 10:50pm Funky16Corners: Yes indeed. Drake was the same way. It was like he was put here in earth for a very brief time to make his beautiful music and then was snatched back into the ether.
	♥ 10:50pm Funky16Corners: Thanks G!
	♥ 10:52pm coelacanth∅: 'night g
	♥ 10:53pm Funky16Corners: Doug - Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Monk. and guys that were trapped in prison for prime years like Tadd Dameron and Hank Mobley
	♥ 10:56pm doctorjazz: Hi-dug the Nick Drake set, and what can I say about Skip James... Great listening!
	♥ 10:57pm Doug Schulkind: Eric Dolphy, whose diabetic shock was thought to be an OD. Mongezi Feza, dies of pneumonia while locked in an asylum.
	♥ 10:57pm Funky16Corners: Hey Dr!
	11:00pm Rich in NC: Hello all
	♥ 11:02pm coelacanth∅: Katell Keineg has a beautiful version of river man as well.
	11:03pm Parq: Doug, Jeez! I never heard those stories! This savage "health care" culture we have in this country is just incredible.
	♥ 11:04pm Funky16Corners: Health care, racism, institutional and otherwise
	♥ 11:04pm coelacanth∅: James was very bitter about being "ignored" for all those years and didn't embrace his "rediscovery" very gracefully. -'probably didn't do his health any good.
	♥ 11:05pm Doug Schulkind: Rediscover this, muthahfuckah.
	♥ 11:06pm Funky16Corners: The whole wave of rediscovery is rife with issues of race, class etc. I'm thankful it happened though
	♥ 11:06pm Funky16Corners: Selfish, I know, but all of that music
	♥ 11:07pm coelacanth∅: yeah - though John Hurt seemed to have a good time with his rediscovery.
	♥ 11:07pm Funky16Corners: John Hurt was a saintly fellow, in every way. His music brings me a great deal of peace and happiness
	♥ 11:09pm coelacanth∅: damn...now i forget who's quote this is; a female i think, who said "i didn't need no 're-discovering'. i knew where i was the whole time."
	11:09pm Dean: Mendelssohn rediscovered Bach. Or is that not exactly rediscovery? Anyway, I'm thankful that happened.
	♥ 11:10pm Funky16Corners: I'd rather we have Skip James music to talk about now, than trapped in a stack of shellac 78s in a landfill somewhere.
	11:12pm Parq: I remember hearing the Flamingos track when I first, as a 17 year old, saw American Graffiti. I was stunned. Ever since then, I have felt it was one of the most gorgeous vocal performances, to say nothing of the languid and redolent arrangement, I've ever heard.
	♥ 11:13pm Funky16Corners: That's where it got me too! One of the finest pieces of recorded music ever.
	♥ 11:13pm coelacanth∅: i do not feel at all ashamed to agree with that sentiment. it's not any more selfish than taking a cookie that someone baked then left behind.
	♥ 11:14pm coelacanth∅: (re: 11:10)
	♥ 11:14pm Funky16Corners: Hopefully Skip, and Mississippi John and Son House, and Robert Johnson are off in the ether somewhere smiling because people love the music they made so much
	♥ 11:15pm Doug Schulkind: Beyond rediscovery, discovery itself has been bumpy and problematic process for many. Conscientious debaters have both supported and criticized the John/Alan Lomax phenomenon. (I come down on the pro side, but with sensitivity to concerns thoughtfully raised.) I agree with you, Larry, that it is way better to have found/preserved than not.
	♥ 11:16pm Funky16Corners: Yes. The same goes for most recorded ethnography. The methods/reasons/ethics were often problematic, but those moments were captured forever
	♥ 11:17pm Funky16Corners: And speaking of 'greatest records ever made'...
	♥ 11:19pm coelacanth∅: i agree with you Doug. yes there are concerns - not least of which who benefited by far the most from those recordings, monetarily...but then - would any, if not more than a very few, of those artists have ever gotten anything at all if it weren't for the Lomaxes?
	11:20pm Parq: Yeah. Can you believe this got heavy AM radio play?
	♥ 11:20pm Funky16Corners: Drilled right into my 10 year old head by WABC-AM
	🥁 ♥ 11:21pm Jeff Ash: Might I say that this evening's program thus far is a throwback to the late-night free-form FM radio I grew up with in the early to mid-'70s. The silence of the night taken in unexpected directions, with plenty of head space for sussing out what it all means, or what it might mean.
	♥ 11:21pm Funky16Corners: That was certainly my intention. I'm very happy you picked up on it.
	♥ 11:23pm Funky16Corners: Can we get Norman Whitfield's head carved into a mountain somewhere?
	♥ 11:23pm coelacanth∅: the temps themselves thought it was craziness! (and resented that the instrumentation was such a big part of it)
	🥁 ♥ 11:23pm Jeff Ash: Amen, Brother Larry!
	♥ 11:23pm Funky16Corners: Hang in, it's going to get even Temptationier and intrumentier!
	♥ 11:24pm Funky16Corners: I don't think for a minute that Whitfield could have done it without the Tempts
	♥ 11:26pm Funky16Corners: This is the sound of the radio buried next to my pillow in 1972, with the volume low enough that my folks couldn't tell I was still up at midnight
	11:27pm Dean: I'm catching a whiff of ends-means rationalization. I'm a librarian, which means I'm at least professionally in favor of preservation. But it occurs to me, as it never has before, that librarians and archivists strive to collect and preserve with an eye almost exclusively trained on the future, i.e., for generations of readers/listeners/viewers to come, rather than to credit the creators.
	♥ 11:28pm doctorjazz: I had one of those pillow radios in my teens...
	♥ 11:28pm coelacanth∅: haha,no! he had a vision but they didn't dig it. some members never got comfortable with the change in style that he steered them into. (i think that's why Ruffin left, eventually...?)
	♥ 11:28pm Funky16Corners: I think all we can do at this point is rationalize. I'm not going to stop listening.
	♥ 11:28pm Doug Schulkind: On this all debaters universally agree: Larry Grogan is a treasure.
	♥ 11:29pm Funky16Corners: Don't bury me!!
	11:30pm geezerette: Here I am again. Anyone who hasn't seen Robert Flaherty's "Moana" with soundtrack of carefully restored field recordings of traditional Samoan music, must do so. His daughter Monica was responsible for the project. en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 11:30pm Funky16Corners: I think Ruffin and Kendriks were both long overdue for a solo shot. I think it's a crime Levi Stubbs never really got to step out on his own from the Tops
	♥ 11:30pm Doug Schulkind: Ha!
	♥ 11:30pm coelacanth∅: (...i think i'm mistaken about Ruffin. he may've left before that recording)
	♥ 11:31pm Funky16Corners: That Moana looks really interesting
	♥ 11:31pm Funky16Corners: Now here's one that ought to be billed as 'Norman Whitfield with a special guest appearance by the Temptations'
	🥁 ♥ 11:32pm Jeff Ash: Dang it, Larry, you're gonna make me pull out all my Tempts records, and probably all the Undisputed Truth, too.
	11:32pm Parq: What Doug said (@11:28) adjusted to accommodate Larry's request (@ 11:29).
	♥ 11:33pm Funky16Corners: You can however dig me up as often as needed
	♥ 11:33pm Funky16Corners: Someday I'm going to twist someone's arm into making a Whitfield boxed set
	11:34pm geezerette: You are all treasures. Moana is stunning. Good night,all.
	11:34pm Dean: We have no choice but to rationalize, true. But when we listen, we probably owe it to ourselves and to the artists to do so critically.
	♥ 11:34pm Funky16Corners: Listen to that rhythm guitar ringing in the background, like six string metronome
	♥ 11:34pm Funky16Corners: Nite Geezerette!
	♥ 11:35pm Funky16Corners: @DEan - ALWAYS...also I've had many stern discussions trying to disabuse people of romantic/stereotypical ideas about old time blues singers
	♥ 11:36pm Funky16Corners: The same goes for trash rock/R&B/garage fans who idolize people they think are drunken wildmen
	♥ 11:37pm Funky16Corners: Who were working musicians/creative people
	11:37pm Dean: And, I'll repeat, for Bach.
	♥ 11:37pm doctorjazz: We got the funk riff there...
	♥ 11:39pm coelacanth∅: show business...or i guess in some cases snow business.
	♥ 11:39pm Funky16Corners: Or, as the late Jerry Lewis might have said, "The business we call show"
	♥ 11:42pm Funky16Corners: Get ready, Whitfield is about to jettison the Tempts and exit the stratosphere completely
	🥁 ♥ 11:47pm Jeff Ash: Note to self. Pick up that "Car Wash" soundtrack you have seen so many times while record digging.
	♥ 11:47pm coelacanth∅: earlier today someone said Iggy Pop is a vegetarian and rarely drinks (which really shouldn't surprise anyone with open eyes)...but it reminded me - though i didn't mention it then, that i've had a hypothesis for years now that Keith Richards is not the party animal people think he is; and maybe never has been.
	♥ 11:48pm Funky16Corners: Yeah, a while back when I found out that Whitfield had done a bunch of instrumental music for the movie I grabbed it
	♥ 11:49pm Funky16Corners: @C- I agree. I always thought it served Mick and Keef's purposes to APPEAR to be dissapated aristocrats, but they never would have gotten this old if they really were as marinated in chemicals
	11:50pm Dean: Is it true that Hank Crawford was the saxophonist planned for this Washington record?
	♥ 11:51pm Funky16Corners: I hadn't heard that, though it's certainly feasible
	♥ 11:53pm Funky16Corners: I'll have to play more of the early 70s Grover stuff in the future
	♥ 11:55pm doctorjazz: Sax seems to be Grover according to Wikipedia... Great sounds, thanks!
	♥ 11:59pm Funky16Corners: Thanks for listening!
	♥ 12:00am coelacanth∅: Thanks Larry! gnight
	♥ 12:00am Funky16Corners: Nite C!

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from August 23, 2017

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