THis is merely the place and time for me to post all the GIFS that would otherwise crash the playlist, and for listeners to request music that I might actually have time to track down before the show begins.
6:30am
P-90:
I was up & listening anyway, I'm doing some research at Butler Library at Columbia U, just across the river. I've opened your playlist page at 9am and seen the early start, thought I'd peek. This is cool, one can listen to John Allen and toggle from his page to yours.
The "Forest Fireworks" GIF is really beautiful, it's so reminiscent of an MC Escher drawing, with the black & white half-tones, the way the trees are drawn, and the extreme perspective, I wonder if that was the artist's intention...
and you gotta love the wet bulldog
You can consider the resultant interspecific competition for resources, sure. But then you also have to consider the intraspecific competition, too. Not to mention the non-competitve commensal and symbiotic relationships that can also form.
Well, I like what RIAA did with it (and Howlin' Wolf) better, but here's the source for that part of the mash-up:
DoughBelly Stray- My Mississippi: youtu.be...
Impromptu Japanese pronunciation lesson. Japanese has long syllables and short syllables. They are pronounced the same, but long syllables get 2 beats instead of 1 beat, an 'u' after the syllable is used to indicate it is long. So Kouchuu is pronounced Ko-chu-, instead of Kochu. (Gesundheit)
I'm here, occasionally enjoying the verbal riffage Comments Board fallout from my mention of invasive species, but mostly enjoying the music...
@Eearie: any species can be invasive when it is introduced to a previously non-native region, and then becomes established. Since just about every species on Earth came from some range other than where it is now, every species can be considered to have been an "invader" at some point.
I'm looking specifically at the role evolution plays in this, which is complicated because it addresses the evolution of species before they invade (not just after), and how that affects their adaptation to the new ranges the to which they are introduced, and also because of the complexity of distiguishing between adaptations in the invaders and the invaded that result from plasticity vs. those that result from natural selection or other evolutionary processes...
Sorry you asked yet? It's a fascinating problem, but me?- I'd rather be at Moogfest right now
I'm not sorry. No. I studied a pile of theory in ecology+evolution and enjoyed it. It's simple and outrageously complex. The cultural bias layers typically adds a good bunch of massive bullshit.
One could do a mashup with 'Ofis' from 666 to this.
10:14am
P-90:
@MD: depends on whose narrative you're using...
@People Like Us: remember that the last syllable of the name "Yoshihide" is one of those short syllables Okasa mentioned, so that last "-de" is not dwelt on like the "day" in "today", it's more of a brief gentle exhalation
I'd lump the study of introduced and new species under the generic 'disturbance' - which could be anything Disturbances can turn out to be positive or negative or neutral and every combo in between.
Here's a quote "we should assess organisms on their environmental impact rather than on whether or not they are native" So pigs on Santa Cruz island = not so good but pheasants where I grew up in PA = not so bad.
P-90 I'll throw my own two cents in since I've done a bit of invasive plant research (chinese silvergrass maintly) ... kinda startling when u realize there's not too much preventing plant nurseries from just selling anything they want. Now this stuff is everywhere! Here's the current do not plant list in NJ www.njisst.org...
Is seasonal bird migration considered 'invasive' ? No, but it's a disturbance to some eg - the overwintering bluejays when the populations of 'other' return and nest.
10:25am
nameJohn:
I remember the day Ken did his show from a rowboat. That was an awesome day.
earrie native birds that go outside their traditional "bounds" during migrations is called an irruption and doesn't usually persist long enough to cause much competition for the regulars.
Tho there was a confirmed sighting of a cormorant in Hunterdon cty www.nj.com...
10:29am
P-90:
@earie: in Invasion Biology, "distubance" is used to describe changes in the environment. So: invasion itself is not a "disturbance," but if an introduced organism significantly alters the host environment, THAT's a disturbance. Actually, a lot of discussion of disturbance in regard to invasion addresses the effects of disturbances that occur before the invader arrives, which may disrupt the existing biotic systems, facilitating the establishment of the invader
Am I the only one who thinks we should hear a little Clara Rockmore or someone playing Theremin, on the occasion of Moogfest? It was the first real musical synthesizer, analog like R. Moog's creations; he was a Theremin fan, built one as a kid, it inspired his work...
to me invasive or introduced implies something not naturally occurring and usually humans causing the situation. Bird irruptions or coyotes/mountain lions moving into new territories is another topic.
What's environment if not both living and non living things. How can you tease them apart like that? It's intrinsically a mix of both.
I take issue with the 'Invader' and 'invasive' is culturally biased line of inquiry I think it's ultimately rooted in immigration/refugee policy pushes.
We've been through the nonsense of all nature is 'red in tooth and claw'. Cultural crapolas.
10:38am
P-90:
@Okasa: i think Ken was waiting to announce the Doomsday Machine at the Record Fair...
I was previewing a recording for my music theory class while the emergency broadcast test was happening. The juxtaposition of the Doomsday Machine and a Haydn string quartet was oddly satisfying. You all should try it some time.
Technology question: With some car radios, some stations display song title or other info. What's the likelihood of WFMU having that? How much would that cost?
jeezus. If bad girls go to hell, that's where I'm going...
10:51am
P-90:
"Culturally biased...", "immigration/refugee policy", etc. are abstractions that occur only in the brains of a single species of primate. Evolutionary processes take place on a vastly wider scale and doesn't necessarily answer to or abide by simian politics
Ken from HP - We just turned that on, a little - your car radio should now say "WFMU" we could do more but it's a silly service.. only shows like 8 characters at a time/
all english experts, this last gif brings to me an unexistential question : how 'dribble' came to mean two so different things (the other being the sport one) ?
I think the meanings share a periodic drop-like characteristic. Imagine a leaky faucet vs successive tapping of a ball with one's foot.
11:19am
Sam:
When you dribble a basketball, you let it slip casually out of your hands, bounce, and come back, just like you were lazily letting a little spit dribble out of your mouth. It's part of being super cool and laid back and having style, which is the most important part of basketball.
I taught Environmental Sci. to undergrads, and I explained to the students that all value is subjective, so the bit about evaluating invasive species is right on. The corollary to that is that people will differ as to their assessment.
Here's how I defined "pollution" for them: the mixing of something you don't want (in the sense of "anti-want", not just absence of desire) with something you want. Depending on the "you", that can differ too.
I wonder if Neil will include A Letter Home on Pono?
11:22am
Robert:
That 7SD premise has a fatal flaw: If the one with the birthday and hir friends had the time, they'd've arranged an actual birthday party. If they don't, then they're likely to be busy, and would be bothered by the intrusion.
I'll bet that lady with the stars on her boobs could strip to ANYTHING.
11:22am
Sam:
It's part of hustling the other team. You dribble the ball, like, bleh, i don't know what I'm doing with this ball, just letting it bounce, then when they come at you, boom, you pass it over to Jordan, or you shoot a 3-pointer yourself.
Well to be fair I can't say for sure if they actually like to do it. What is fairly certain, however, is that they do it with frequency and proficiency.
@Robert: I assumed the 7SD premise acknowledged that the birthday boy/girl would have an actual birthday party, and thus WOULD be bothered by the intrusion-- mirth and hilarity to ensue, in classic 7SD style
basketball dribble was probably borrowed from soccer dribble, where it makes more sense in terms of kicking the ball just a little bit instead of booting it as far as possible (dribbling vs spewing? perhaps this makes english english an invasive species in our english?)
To whomever has the doomsday machine, you need to finger-tap all the glass tubes until the thing shines back to life. We're tired of waiting. How much longer do we have to suffer your incompetence?
@robert isn't it less subjective because invasives aren't adapted to any particular niche of the new environment and just throw everything off the rails? by that definition you could technically have an "invasive" filling an empty niche but how often does that happen? aside from the case of WMFU filling that void!
Barney, the greatest inversion of the soccer dribble concept is in rugby, where a dribble commonly consists of a series of a few great boots of the ball on the ground to get past one opponent then the fullback, and finally into goal to pounce on it.
If those pesky invasive meteors didn't invade Earth with those funny molecules we wouldn't be here to discuss it. Unless of course invading Gods or Aliens formed us.
@Robert -- That's actually the similar heritage of football/soccer and rugby. Dribbing in football/soccer used to be one of those exemplary muscular Christian activities of running with the ball and beating the crap out of anyone in your path in 19thC England.
11:41am
P-90:
KK: actually, more often than not, invaders settle into niches not monopolized by natives and don't "throw everything off the rails." Sometimes. invaders actually provide new niches for natives...
Yay! "Porn for the Deaf!" ..makes me nostalgic for the WFMU "Hurricane damage/Internet pirate radio" days...
*sigh*
i do, however, use "invasiveness" in another, partly related sense, as describing an organism's propensity to invade the substance of another or the same organism, as in a cancer or infecting species.
11:44am
P-90:
@Sem: Correction: [Porn for the Blind]
I was so overcum with emotion at hearing it again that I messed it up
I used to carry a braille version of the catalog of frozen food I sold and would tell people it was a braille version of Playboy magazine so I could read the pictures at work without being caught.
I go back and forth with being obsessed with terms. Invasive doesn't bother me. BUT when people are referring to a house for sale as a "home," that kind of stuff drives me nuts. The real estate industry starting doing that and then everyone else just swallowed it. Terms like "international community" (you mean the entire planet?) or "detained" (you mean arrested?) used by news media because they're lazy...ugh.
11:47am
Sam:
I was a very happy little egg until an invasive species showed up and infected me. Everything went downhill from there, I was evicted 9 months later.
11:50am
P-90:
Lesson for Today: You really, REALLY gotta watch what you post on these Comments boards (duh)
Don't ask how I know this but being detained by the cops is different than being arrested. You don't have to show the Gestapo your papers until your arrested and you shouldn't be arrested unless your're suspected of a crime. Refusing to show ID while being detained is not a crime BTW.
11:52am
Listener Berverly:
I got a call while Porn for the Blind was just getting to the sausage. Had to turn that off in a hurry.
@pat, isnt 'arrested' the fact of being arrested, quite short in time, and 'detained' the fact of being kept 'detained' or temporarily jailed, which is -usually- longer ?