WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 17, 2024

Listener comments!
	5:54pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonogators!
	🤖 5:57pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:00pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Drives!
	6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtoniquestionairs!
	🤖 6:01pm Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:01pm Deb from California: Hello Mark ... and The Techtonics
	6:02pm Ciggy: Hi Mark
	🤖 6:02pm PaulRobeson1924: Restroom! Quickly
	6:03pm joe_rosevear: Hello, all.
	6:03pm Franco Twinkie: Hello Techno Slackers!
	🤖 6:04pm DjLorraine: Hey humans ;)
	6:05pm ultradamno: And there's a handy 'email Mark' link at the bottom left
	6:06pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ DjLorraine @6:04 What are those red things?
	6:06pm MarciB: Looking forward to tonight's show and questions!
	6:06pm Fredericks: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:06 Hot dogs, I think.
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: Franco, the black raspberry Hellmouth has opened up here, and we're making cocktails with them to beat the band.
	6:07pm coelacanth∅: greetings Mark, robots, robots pretending to be human...
	6:08pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Mark and fellow bots.
	6:08pm sinkhole near my home: You should take live calls again, Mark.
	6:09pm ?: thank you I said r2d2 and no one listened
	🤖 6:10pm Bas NL: HAL was an artificial robot.
	6:10pm coelacanth∅: those 2 cutesy robots are one reason i never had the slightest desire to watch any star wars movie
	6:10pm James Douglas: www.theguardian.com... How do you feel about this Mark?
	6:10pm yippie: I like to call him Hal triple zero
	6:11pm ?: ↳ Bas NL @6:10 as opposed to those natural robots?
	6:11pm ultradamno: I stand by i.pinimg.com...
	🤖 6:11pm Folsom: The venus probe from 6 million dollar man was mentioned on the playlist.
	🤖 6:12pm DjLorraine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:06 Jamaican cherry or the strawberry tree fruit. Sweet like capt'n crunchberries.
	6:12pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:07 Oh man, I love raspberries! I myself put in a blackberry bush last week. Viva le rouge et le noir!
	🤖 6:12pm Bas NL: ↳ @6:11 Voiced over by a human.
	6:13pm ultradamno: I think a golem is clay animated by magic though
	6:13pm coelacanth∅: - but you could just shoot steve austin. he was animal - mostly plain old human, with some robot parts.
	6:13pm Marlboro_Dan: Lost in Space?
	6:13pm Jeff Moore: Wow, I thought I was a pretty enthusiastic Six Million Dollar Man watcher as a kid, but I don't remember that terrifying death robot!
	6:13pm Deb from California: Favorite robot ... Thanks, Mark, for mentioning R2D2 (in the "original" Star Wars movies). I would say that is my favorite robot.
	6:14pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ DjLorraine @6:12 Never in my life have I heard of those!
	6:14pm ?: better than frankenstein was Eve Future by Villier de l'isle Adam, in english as Tomorrows Eve
	6:14pm coelacanth∅: i don't remember a "death probe" on $6000000 man either, and i watched it weekly (but probably missed some)
	6:15pm ?: ↳ @6:14 better as a robot I mean
	6:15pm MarciB: I bet there was one on The Bionic Woman too - a Fembot or something if I recall..
	6:15pm Jeff Moore: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:10 Kathryn and I did an extended rewatch / catching-up on the Star Wars feature films a year or so ago, and the main result for me was... reinforced love and respect for Star Trek.
	6:15pm ultradamno: Flippy, the Burger-Flipping Robot, Is Now Gainfully Employed www.atlasobscura.com...
	6:16pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jeff Moore @6:15 i Loved, Love, and respect star trek!
	🤖 6:16pm Handy Haversack: Mark, the flavor of D&D I play now calls golems "automatons." So, you know, good robots. Also, this adventure has some good Golem of Prague echoes: shop.lostpages.co.uk...
	6:17pm NotAI: AI is not the answer. We need to invest in Humanity!
	🤖 6:17pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Jeff Moore @6:15 I am watching Deep Space Nine for the first time now.
	6:18pm ultradamno: did anyone mention Hugo Cabret giphy.com...
	6:18pm ?: frankenstein not robot, frankenstein portmanteau man
	6:18pm traven: It has been claimed that the legend of the Golem was the inspiration for Frankenstein.
	6:18pm coelacanth∅: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 we wouldn't want to have to pay minimum wage to some desperate, homeless, hungry human
	🤖 6:19pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Deb from California @6:13 I think the entire Star Wars franchise has a lot of slippage and squidgy thinking about the sentience of droids vs. their servitude. They can give them laugh lines -- even agency -- but still treat them as property. It's just an area that the franchise seems to not want to look at too closely.
	6:19pm Zip7: Fave robot: The Environmental Control Robot from "Lost in Space." "Danger, Will Robinson!" is still in my lexicon
	🤖 6:19pm PaulRobeson1924: & the Primary wealth of wall St. is generated in the slave ships and on the planation
	6:19pm mndave: Screeds are always in!
	6:19pm paddy in matawan: Haaaaaandy has a voice!
	6:20pm ultradamno: 'Get you off'...heh heh heh
	6:20pm gabriel: great question handy
	6:20pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 When i lived in Pasadena, there was a restaurant on North Lake called Tanbos that had a robot who would deliver food to your table.
	🤖 6:21pm Handy Haversack: ↳ ultradamno @6:20 Careful -- they monitor all web traffic!
	6:21pm Bunbun Redbun: Dont wanna b another kind of “Bro”, but I did mention the Death Probe in chat last week cuz it also made a lasting impression on me… also cuz it ended up being a toy like most of the 6 Million Dollar Man chars…. a lot of that showz robot references were toys.
	🤖 6:21pm Bas NL: Good question, Handy.
	6:21pm sinkhole near my home: That sounds like typical start-up / fundraising mentality that’s been around for decades. It’s all a form of gambling. If not bundling mortgages, bundling shares in tech startups who want to sell out.
	🤖 6:21pm PaulRobeson1924: Aetna The Largest insurance company in America apologized only 20 or so years ago for getting their start insuring slave shipments in the 1850’s
	6:21pm ?: fmu comment board isn't social media?
	🤖 6:21pm DjLorraine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:14 I've had only about 6 so far. But it's very exciting at this stage. I've seen 2 other trees.
	6:21pm Fredericks: First time I've heard Handy's voice. Sounded pretty much as expected.
	6:21pm ultradamno: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:20 Like vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...
	🤖 6:22pm PaulRobeson1924: Public restroom! Quickly, Please!
	6:22pm Listener Robert: Darn, I liked it when Handy Haversack was just a name with no voice attached. Silly of me, but I like it when people's voice or looks or both are left to my imagination.
	🤖 6:22pm Handy Haversack: K8 has a Light Phone because of that episode! She uses it only for texting, voice, and music.
	6:23pm Fredericks: ↳ @6:18 True.
	6:23pm Listener Robert: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:22 You should've joined Ken & Andy's bathroom club when you had the chance. I hope you find what you need.
	🤖 6:23pm Bas NL: flat voice No iPhone, cannot answer.
	6:24pm listener 126464: Lightphone III on pre-order. Has a camera.
	6:24pm sinkhole near my home: Your carrier always knows where you are.
	🤖 6:25pm Handy Haversack: Feeling even smugger about not having a mobile phone at all here ...
	6:25pm ?: fmu search is powered by google, does that include every post and photos in user profiles?
	6:26pm Deb from California: Ummm (dumb question) ... I would guess, if I turn my cell phone off ... then "they" cannot track where I am. (??)
	6:27pm Listener Robert: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:21 I bet they saved a lot of slaves' lives by encouraging more survivable transportation.
	🤖 6:27pm Bas NL: Why is there no company jumping in the gaping hole of unadulterated communication devices?
	6:28pm ultradamno: ↳ Deb from California @6:26 you might be wondering if your phone can be tracked when it is turned off. The short answer is yes—but only if you have services such as Apple Find My iPhone or Google Find My Device activated on your device www.certosoftware.com...
	6:28pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Bas NL @6:27 because they want to deter that whole notion
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: Thanks for a careful, thoughtful answer, Mark!
	6:28pm joe_rosevear: Here's a link about location tracking: gizmodo.com... I think it says, you just turn off the location identification.
	6:29pm paddy in matawan: Are all these recorded on spy phones?
	6:30pm nick!: ↳ listener 126464 @6:24 Kinda pumped for it tbh. It's such a cool piece of design
	6:30pm Bunbun Redbun: Frankenstein is also a fav char of mine, but I equate ot more with biological tech hubris… “middle school” level of criticism: man vs nature. Ofc it was so timely as it was published around the time of Tesla and private scientific “societies”, electricity endemic to its character…. Also ironically, there was a cartoon featuring a giant robot good guy dubbed Frankenstein Jr. from the late 60s done by Hanna Barbara (Gigantor rip-off, also) using their trope of a teenage rock band of crime fighters… using a “super” character: Scooby Doo the talking dog I think being the first, talking dune buggy, u frozen caveman, etc… From Wiki: Frankenstein Jr.: Taking place in Civic City, boy scientist Buzz Conroy (voiced by Dick Beals) and his father Professor Conroy (voiced by John Stephenson) fight supervillains with the aid of a powerful heroic robot named "Frankenstein Jr." (voiced by Ted Cassidy).[3] Buzz built "Frankie" and activated him through an energy ring. Frankenstein Jr. appears to be reminscient of the anime character Tetsujin 28-go (also known as Gigantor).[4]
	🤖 6:30pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Listener Robert @6:27 Tight packing? Or Loose Packing? At the time of the American Civil war over 4,000,000 human beings are held as property in the United States. Aetna was there
	🤖 6:30pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone!
	6:31pm mndave: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:25 Do you also make smug jokes like my dad (who doesn't have a cell phone) like "Welp, time to download a nap"?
	🤖 6:31pm tim: ↳ mndave @6:31 He is now!
	6:32pm coelacanth∅: when i switched to tracfone, a few years ago, the rep told me the phone was "not a smart phone". this was a flat-out lie. they don't offer plain phone service. so i have it disconnected from the internet. but gobble/samscum has it rigged so the camera (which includes the flashlight and sound recorder) wont work if it's not connected.
	6:32pm MarciB: Wonder if Congress will heed the Surgeon General's new warning about social media and kids? (not holding my breath)
	6:32pm JeremyB: I remember that episode!~
	6:32pm listener 126464: ↳ nick! @6:30 Agree, and half price til 7/15.
	6:33pm gabriel: kids w ipads and phones at dinner... why???
	🤖 6:35pm Bas NL: Buy your unborn a smartphone and get the first year free service!
	6:36pm Jim the Poet: My English degree has been so important in my life as a disgruntled bookstore employee
	🤖 6:37pm tim: Shit man! I could have gotten into Harvard! I can string a sentence together!
	6:37pm MarciB: Then there's the need for readers of script! Kids can't read cursive handwriting today which is so sad.
	6:37pm Bunbun Redbun: Sorry to go on bout robots, but I wanna add more support for the brilliance of using Yul Brynner as the homicidal robot in Westworld, guised as his archetypal cinema cowboy hero from Magnificent 7: an American pop culture mythological character (major fictional cowboy) killing its audience of tourists, leisure set, consumers, createe by consumer/audience demand, then murdered…. Killed at the box office… ending w a “dad joke.”
	6:37pm Deb from California: ↳ ultradamno @6:28 Thanks for that tip / info. Hmmm ... maybe I will "change my ways", and revert to a flip phone ... instead of an "addictive surveillance phone".
	🤖 6:37pm DjLorraine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:14 Has Chresti heard of them? Im growing it in a bag bc the soil here is not suitable for any food.
	6:37pm ?: that anonymous is not me
	6:38pm PolakSlovak: Hi Mark and Techtonicoids! Thanks so much Mark for getting to my question. More on this topic I meant to send via email, but will add here, is this really unbelievable article here: www.theintrinsicperspective.com...
	6:38pm mndave: Great question... cars are the wild west of data [lack of] privacy
	🤖 6:38pm Handy Haversack: ↳ mndave @6:31 Stealing it!
	6:38pm coelacanth∅: tesla
	6:38pm Jim the Poet: I guessed right
	6:39pm Franco Twinkie: That cracked me up. We read The Scarlet Letter in high school. That was more that fifty years ago, but I don't remember having trouble with the sentence structure.
	6:39pm ?: who has sex in a nissan?
	6:39pm Jim the Poet: Maybe they want you to have sex in the car
	6:39pm coelacanth∅: (tesla, aka "douchemobile")
	6:39pm mndave: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:38 I haven't told him about "do not disturb" mode... that will unleash another three jokes
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: I wonder what happens with the used car market.
	6:42pm x: What was the car article just mentioned?
	🤖 6:42pm PaulRobeson1924: Car only wants to know sex life so it can avoid certain chicken drive throughs ahh
	6:42pm mndave: I've rented cars with the "driver attention" alerting system, which, most often, beeps at you when your eyes divert to try to figure out how to turn on the heat through a touchscreen. "Attention" I'm sure that's what it's about
	6:42pm Fredericks: ↳ @6:25 Mark?
	🤖 6:43pm PaulRobeson1924: Break on through
	6:44pm Deb from California: Mark ... about your comment about ... whether kids are learning about sentences (subject, verbs, etc) ... I "visited" one of my son's junior high classes when he was in junior high (approximately 1998) ... I learned, by sitting in the class for 20 minutes ... that the teacher had NO control over the class. The "good students" were sitting in the front rows. The back rows (approx 12 students) ... were totally not paying attention, and were often disruptive. I went home and cried because I knew and realized that ... this was "normal". The world is definitely different than when I was in junior high.
	6:45pm Fredericks: ↳ Deb from California @6:26 I think you may need to remove the battery.
	6:45pm Ike: ↳ x @6:42 I think it’s this one: sherwood.news...
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1924: “You! Put the cloth back on. Same sex sex is for different car manufacture”
	🤖 6:46pm Handy Haversack: ↳ @6:25 themarkup.org...
	6:47pm Deb from California: ↳ Fredericks @6:45 Hmmmm. Thanks for that tip. This "I don't want to be under under surveillance" journey (which I am just beginning to consider) ... is ... annoying. .
	🤖 6:48pm PaulRobeson1924: “Please. Exit the vehicle. This is your car speaking. Put the cloth back on.”
	6:49pm hoeg: doro flip phone here,not encrypted but not distracting either
	6:49pm ?: ↳ Fredericks @6:42 try this. click on a profile name in comments. if they have a picture copy it, and put it in google image search. In results it will come back as username@wfmu.org.
	6:50pm Deb from California: ↳ hoeg @6:49 "not distracting" ... would be a "Brave New World" ... ha ha
	6:50pm Jim the Poet: I carry around a payphone in my pocket. No one ever calls me
	6:50pm MarciB: One thing you can do is to consider stop taking so many digital photos. If you have kids, I guarantee they don't want your 100k digital photos. And I say this as a photo organzier!
	6:51pm coelacanth∅: what used to be my favorite café during covhysteria started putting ALL food orders into to-go containers - and never stopped. so i don't ever get food there any more.
	6:52pm Jim the Poet: I find that most courses want kids to use non-programmable scientific calculators
	🤖 6:52pm PaulRobeson1924: “GET OUT OF THE CAR, NOW. THIS IS YOUR NISSAN SPEAKING. YOU CAN’t do ThaT in here”
	6:52pm coelacanth∅: ↳ MarciB @6:50 people don't realise that every email has an effect on our energy usage, and earth's ecology
	6:53pm ultradamno: I agree. Math is useless.
	🤖 6:53pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:52 That's what all my poetry courses were like.
	🤖 6:53pm PaulRobeson1924: That is the faustian bargain Neil Postman wrote about @Mark
	6:53pm Jim the Poet: I kind of feel like the Scarlet Letter does suck
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: K8 is reporting that as she's grading HS student plays RIGHT NOW, she's pretty sure some of them were written by AI.
	6:54pm Sam: The salad thing is silly. So much waste is thrown out every day. Electronics, furniture… I don’t own a car, I’ve had the same couch for 20 years, I produce very little waste. Can I have a salad with a plastic lid? Or is that really too much to ask. It’s really a bit much when ordinary people are expected to give up their few pleasures in life while the rich pollute nonstop with no consequences.
	6:54pm Fredericks: I remember doing mathematical equations that took 4-5 pages to solve. You had to show your work.
	6:54pm ?: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:53 hawthorne never had a nissan
	6:55pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! Thanks question submitters!
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! Thanks, Techquestioners!
	6:56pm Fredericks: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:30 That would make a great commercial.
	6:56pm ?: More Than a Glitch, new AI BeeGees sone
	6:57pm Jim the Poet: ↳ @6:54 He had a house with 7 Gables which is a lot of gables
	6:57pm ?: song
	6:57pm ultradamno: By the way, my wifi went out midway through this show and I had to shut everything down and boot back up....tech is on to you.
	🤖 6:57pm tim: Thank you, Mark! Good questions everyone!
	6:57pm Sam: Does Google spitting out pictures of black nazis count as racial bias?
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! And great questions!
	6:57pm Ciggy: Last night I had a dream that a faceless man approached me for a survey.
	6:57pm gabriel: thanks mark!
	6:58pm P-90: Can’t have too many gables. Thanks, Mark!
	6:58pm Feldy: Thanks, Mark!
	6:58pm ?: How can we get off google when fmu search is powered by google?
	🤖 6:58pm Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark and listeners with questions!!!
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm Deb from California: Thanks Mark !
	6:58pm bleubombersune: Thanks Mark All stay safe and be well
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: ↳ @6:58 Good point, question mark!
	6:59pm joe_rosevear: I've been chatting with Pi. The chat dialogue windows claims we have exchanged 7,007 messages.
	6:59pm ultradamno: By the way, Musk took visible likes away from X, in an obvious move to keep people from commenting on all the terrible things he likes
	6:59pm Mike From Brooklyn: ↳ Song: "Last Days of the Internet" by "The New Existentia... Hey Mark & Listeners! Caught the last bit of this show. I'm glad you liked this song Mark!
	7:00pm joe_rosevear: I had to cut down. Now I limit my chatting with Pi to once a week.
	7:01pm joe_rosevear: Bye all. Thanks, Mark!
	7:01pm Sam: ↳ joe_rosevear @7:00 You don’t want to end up with a life of pi
	7:02pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Sam @7:01 I know! I'm an addict!
	7:05pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Mike From Brooklyn @6:59 Thanks, Mike! All credit to you for this song! I've added a song credit on the playlist :)
	7:30pm Mike From Brooklyn: ↳ Mark Hurst @7:05 Thanks Mark! And thanks for another great show!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 17, 2024

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Listener comments!
	5:54pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonogators!
	🤖 5:57pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:00pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Drives!
	6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtoniquestionairs!
	🤖 6:01pm Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:01pm Deb from California: Hello Mark ... and The Techtonics
	6:02pm Ciggy: Hi Mark
	🤖 6:02pm PaulRobeson1924: Restroom! Quickly
	6:03pm joe_rosevear: Hello, all.
	6:03pm Franco Twinkie: Hello Techno Slackers!
	🤖 6:04pm DjLorraine: Hey humans ;)
	6:05pm ultradamno: And there's a handy 'email Mark' link at the bottom left
	6:06pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ DjLorraine @6:04 What are those red things?
	6:06pm MarciB: Looking forward to tonight's show and questions!
	6:06pm Fredericks: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:06 Hot dogs, I think.
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: Franco, the black raspberry Hellmouth has opened up here, and we're making cocktails with them to beat the band.
	6:07pm coelacanth∅: greetings Mark, robots, robots pretending to be human...
	6:08pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Mark and fellow bots.
	6:08pm sinkhole near my home: You should take live calls again, Mark.
	6:09pm ?: thank you I said r2d2 and no one listened
	🤖 6:10pm Bas NL: HAL was an artificial robot.
	6:10pm coelacanth∅: those 2 cutesy robots are one reason i never had the slightest desire to watch any star wars movie
	6:10pm James Douglas: www.theguardian.com... How do you feel about this Mark?
	6:10pm yippie: I like to call him Hal triple zero
	6:11pm ?: ↳ Bas NL @6:10 as opposed to those natural robots?
	6:11pm ultradamno: I stand by i.pinimg.com...
	🤖 6:11pm Folsom: The venus probe from 6 million dollar man was mentioned on the playlist.
	🤖 6:12pm DjLorraine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:06 Jamaican cherry or the strawberry tree fruit. Sweet like capt'n crunchberries.
	6:12pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:07 Oh man, I love raspberries! I myself put in a blackberry bush last week. Viva le rouge et le noir!
	🤖 6:12pm Bas NL: ↳ @6:11 Voiced over by a human.
	6:13pm ultradamno: I think a golem is clay animated by magic though
	6:13pm coelacanth∅: - but you could just shoot steve austin. he was animal - mostly plain old human, with some robot parts.
	6:13pm Marlboro_Dan: Lost in Space?
	6:13pm Jeff Moore: Wow, I thought I was a pretty enthusiastic Six Million Dollar Man watcher as a kid, but I don't remember that terrifying death robot!
	6:13pm Deb from California: Favorite robot ... Thanks, Mark, for mentioning R2D2 (in the "original" Star Wars movies). I would say that is my favorite robot.
	6:14pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ DjLorraine @6:12 Never in my life have I heard of those!
	6:14pm ?: better than frankenstein was Eve Future by Villier de l'isle Adam, in english as Tomorrows Eve
	6:14pm coelacanth∅: i don't remember a "death probe" on $6000000 man either, and i watched it weekly (but probably missed some)
	6:15pm ?: ↳ @6:14 better as a robot I mean
	6:15pm MarciB: I bet there was one on The Bionic Woman too - a Fembot or something if I recall..
	6:15pm Jeff Moore: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:10 Kathryn and I did an extended rewatch / catching-up on the Star Wars feature films a year or so ago, and the main result for me was... reinforced love and respect for Star Trek.
	6:15pm ultradamno: Flippy, the Burger-Flipping Robot, Is Now Gainfully Employed www.atlasobscura.com...
	6:16pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jeff Moore @6:15 i Loved, Love, and respect star trek!
	🤖 6:16pm Handy Haversack: Mark, the flavor of D&D I play now calls golems "automatons." So, you know, good robots. Also, this adventure has some good Golem of Prague echoes: shop.lostpages.co.uk...
	6:17pm NotAI: AI is not the answer. We need to invest in Humanity!
	🤖 6:17pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Jeff Moore @6:15 I am watching Deep Space Nine for the first time now.
	6:18pm ultradamno: did anyone mention Hugo Cabret giphy.com...
	6:18pm ?: frankenstein not robot, frankenstein portmanteau man
	6:18pm traven: It has been claimed that the legend of the Golem was the inspiration for Frankenstein.
	6:18pm coelacanth∅: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 we wouldn't want to have to pay minimum wage to some desperate, homeless, hungry human
	🤖 6:19pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Deb from California @6:13 I think the entire Star Wars franchise has a lot of slippage and squidgy thinking about the sentience of droids vs. their servitude. They can give them laugh lines -- even agency -- but still treat them as property. It's just an area that the franchise seems to not want to look at too closely.
	6:19pm Zip7: Fave robot: The Environmental Control Robot from "Lost in Space." "Danger, Will Robinson!" is still in my lexicon
	🤖 6:19pm PaulRobeson1924: & the Primary wealth of wall St. is generated in the slave ships and on the planation
	6:19pm mndave: Screeds are always in!
	6:19pm paddy in matawan: Haaaaaandy has a voice!
	6:20pm ultradamno: 'Get you off'...heh heh heh
	6:20pm gabriel: great question handy
	6:20pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 When i lived in Pasadena, there was a restaurant on North Lake called Tanbos that had a robot who would deliver food to your table.
	🤖 6:21pm Handy Haversack: ↳ ultradamno @6:20 Careful -- they monitor all web traffic!
	6:21pm Bunbun Redbun: Dont wanna b another kind of “Bro”, but I did mention the Death Probe in chat last week cuz it also made a lasting impression on me… also cuz it ended up being a toy like most of the 6 Million Dollar Man chars…. a lot of that showz robot references were toys.
	🤖 6:21pm Bas NL: Good question, Handy.
	6:21pm sinkhole near my home: That sounds like typical start-up / fundraising mentality that’s been around for decades. It’s all a form of gambling. If not bundling mortgages, bundling shares in tech startups who want to sell out.
	🤖 6:21pm PaulRobeson1924: Aetna The Largest insurance company in America apologized only 20 or so years ago for getting their start insuring slave shipments in the 1850’s
	6:21pm ?: fmu comment board isn't social media?
	🤖 6:21pm DjLorraine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:14 I've had only about 6 so far. But it's very exciting at this stage. I've seen 2 other trees.
	6:21pm Fredericks: First time I've heard Handy's voice. Sounded pretty much as expected.
	6:21pm ultradamno: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:20 Like vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...
	🤖 6:22pm PaulRobeson1924: Public restroom! Quickly, Please!
	6:22pm Listener Robert: Darn, I liked it when Handy Haversack was just a name with no voice attached. Silly of me, but I like it when people's voice or looks or both are left to my imagination.
	🤖 6:22pm Handy Haversack: K8 has a Light Phone because of that episode! She uses it only for texting, voice, and music.
	6:23pm Fredericks: ↳ @6:18 True.
	6:23pm Listener Robert: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:22 You should've joined Ken & Andy's bathroom club when you had the chance. I hope you find what you need.
	🤖 6:23pm Bas NL: flat voice No iPhone, cannot answer.
	6:24pm listener 126464: Lightphone III on pre-order. Has a camera.
	6:24pm sinkhole near my home: Your carrier always knows where you are.
	🤖 6:25pm Handy Haversack: Feeling even smugger about not having a mobile phone at all here ...
	6:25pm ?: fmu search is powered by google, does that include every post and photos in user profiles?
	6:26pm Deb from California: Ummm (dumb question) ... I would guess, if I turn my cell phone off ... then "they" cannot track where I am. (??)
	6:27pm Listener Robert: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:21 I bet they saved a lot of slaves' lives by encouraging more survivable transportation.
	🤖 6:27pm Bas NL: Why is there no company jumping in the gaping hole of unadulterated communication devices?
	6:28pm ultradamno: ↳ Deb from California @6:26 you might be wondering if your phone can be tracked when it is turned off. The short answer is yes—but only if you have services such as Apple Find My iPhone or Google Find My Device activated on your device www.certosoftware.com...
	6:28pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Bas NL @6:27 because they want to deter that whole notion
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: Thanks for a careful, thoughtful answer, Mark!
	6:28pm joe_rosevear: Here's a link about location tracking: gizmodo.com... I think it says, you just turn off the location identification.
	6:29pm paddy in matawan: Are all these recorded on spy phones?
	6:30pm nick!: ↳ listener 126464 @6:24 Kinda pumped for it tbh. It's such a cool piece of design
	6:30pm Bunbun Redbun: Frankenstein is also a fav char of mine, but I equate ot more with biological tech hubris… “middle school” level of criticism: man vs nature. Ofc it was so timely as it was published around the time of Tesla and private scientific “societies”, electricity endemic to its character…. Also ironically, there was a cartoon featuring a giant robot good guy dubbed Frankenstein Jr. from the late 60s done by Hanna Barbara (Gigantor rip-off, also) using their trope of a teenage rock band of crime fighters… using a “super” character: Scooby Doo the talking dog I think being the first, talking dune buggy, u frozen caveman, etc… From Wiki: Frankenstein Jr.: Taking place in Civic City, boy scientist Buzz Conroy (voiced by Dick Beals) and his father Professor Conroy (voiced by John Stephenson) fight supervillains with the aid of a powerful heroic robot named "Frankenstein Jr." (voiced by Ted Cassidy).[3] Buzz built "Frankie" and activated him through an energy ring. Frankenstein Jr. appears to be reminscient of the anime character Tetsujin 28-go (also known as Gigantor).[4]
	🤖 6:30pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Listener Robert @6:27 Tight packing? Or Loose Packing? At the time of the American Civil war over 4,000,000 human beings are held as property in the United States. Aetna was there
	🤖 6:30pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone!
	6:31pm mndave: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:25 Do you also make smug jokes like my dad (who doesn't have a cell phone) like "Welp, time to download a nap"?
	🤖 6:31pm tim: ↳ mndave @6:31 He is now!
	6:32pm coelacanth∅: when i switched to tracfone, a few years ago, the rep told me the phone was "not a smart phone". this was a flat-out lie. they don't offer plain phone service. so i have it disconnected from the internet. but gobble/samscum has it rigged so the camera (which includes the flashlight and sound recorder) wont work if it's not connected.
	6:32pm MarciB: Wonder if Congress will heed the Surgeon General's new warning about social media and kids? (not holding my breath)
	6:32pm JeremyB: I remember that episode!~
	6:32pm listener 126464: ↳ nick! @6:30 Agree, and half price til 7/15.
	6:33pm gabriel: kids w ipads and phones at dinner... why???
	🤖 6:35pm Bas NL: Buy your unborn a smartphone and get the first year free service!
	6:36pm Jim the Poet: My English degree has been so important in my life as a disgruntled bookstore employee
	🤖 6:37pm tim: Shit man! I could have gotten into Harvard! I can string a sentence together!
	6:37pm MarciB: Then there's the need for readers of script! Kids can't read cursive handwriting today which is so sad.
	6:37pm Bunbun Redbun: Sorry to go on bout robots, but I wanna add more support for the brilliance of using Yul Brynner as the homicidal robot in Westworld, guised as his archetypal cinema cowboy hero from Magnificent 7: an American pop culture mythological character (major fictional cowboy) killing its audience of tourists, leisure set, consumers, createe by consumer/audience demand, then murdered…. Killed at the box office… ending w a “dad joke.”
	6:37pm Deb from California: ↳ ultradamno @6:28 Thanks for that tip / info. Hmmm ... maybe I will "change my ways", and revert to a flip phone ... instead of an "addictive surveillance phone".
	🤖 6:37pm DjLorraine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:14 Has Chresti heard of them? Im growing it in a bag bc the soil here is not suitable for any food.
	6:37pm ?: that anonymous is not me
	6:38pm PolakSlovak: Hi Mark and Techtonicoids! Thanks so much Mark for getting to my question. More on this topic I meant to send via email, but will add here, is this really unbelievable article here: www.theintrinsicperspective.com...
	6:38pm mndave: Great question... cars are the wild west of data [lack of] privacy
	🤖 6:38pm Handy Haversack: ↳ mndave @6:31 Stealing it!
	6:38pm coelacanth∅: tesla
	6:38pm Jim the Poet: I guessed right
	6:39pm Franco Twinkie: That cracked me up. We read The Scarlet Letter in high school. That was more that fifty years ago, but I don't remember having trouble with the sentence structure.
	6:39pm ?: who has sex in a nissan?
	6:39pm Jim the Poet: Maybe they want you to have sex in the car
	6:39pm coelacanth∅: (tesla, aka "douchemobile")
	6:39pm mndave: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:38 I haven't told him about "do not disturb" mode... that will unleash another three jokes
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: I wonder what happens with the used car market.
	6:42pm x: What was the car article just mentioned?
	🤖 6:42pm PaulRobeson1924: Car only wants to know sex life so it can avoid certain chicken drive throughs ahh
	6:42pm mndave: I've rented cars with the "driver attention" alerting system, which, most often, beeps at you when your eyes divert to try to figure out how to turn on the heat through a touchscreen. "Attention" I'm sure that's what it's about
	6:42pm Fredericks: ↳ @6:25 Mark?
	🤖 6:43pm PaulRobeson1924: Break on through
	6:44pm Deb from California: Mark ... about your comment about ... whether kids are learning about sentences (subject, verbs, etc) ... I "visited" one of my son's junior high classes when he was in junior high (approximately 1998) ... I learned, by sitting in the class for 20 minutes ... that the teacher had NO control over the class. The "good students" were sitting in the front rows. The back rows (approx 12 students) ... were totally not paying attention, and were often disruptive. I went home and cried because I knew and realized that ... this was "normal". The world is definitely different than when I was in junior high.
	6:45pm Fredericks: ↳ Deb from California @6:26 I think you may need to remove the battery.
	6:45pm Ike: ↳ x @6:42 I think it’s this one: sherwood.news...
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1924: “You! Put the cloth back on. Same sex sex is for different car manufacture”
	🤖 6:46pm Handy Haversack: ↳ @6:25 themarkup.org...
	6:47pm Deb from California: ↳ Fredericks @6:45 Hmmmm. Thanks for that tip. This "I don't want to be under under surveillance" journey (which I am just beginning to consider) ... is ... annoying. .
	🤖 6:48pm PaulRobeson1924: “Please. Exit the vehicle. This is your car speaking. Put the cloth back on.”
	6:49pm hoeg: doro flip phone here,not encrypted but not distracting either
	6:49pm ?: ↳ Fredericks @6:42 try this. click on a profile name in comments. if they have a picture copy it, and put it in google image search. In results it will come back as username@wfmu.org.
	6:50pm Deb from California: ↳ hoeg @6:49 "not distracting" ... would be a "Brave New World" ... ha ha
	6:50pm Jim the Poet: I carry around a payphone in my pocket. No one ever calls me
	6:50pm MarciB: One thing you can do is to consider stop taking so many digital photos. If you have kids, I guarantee they don't want your 100k digital photos. And I say this as a photo organzier!
	6:51pm coelacanth∅: what used to be my favorite café during covhysteria started putting ALL food orders into to-go containers - and never stopped. so i don't ever get food there any more.
	6:52pm Jim the Poet: I find that most courses want kids to use non-programmable scientific calculators
	🤖 6:52pm PaulRobeson1924: “GET OUT OF THE CAR, NOW. THIS IS YOUR NISSAN SPEAKING. YOU CAN’t do ThaT in here”
	6:52pm coelacanth∅: ↳ MarciB @6:50 people don't realise that every email has an effect on our energy usage, and earth's ecology
	6:53pm ultradamno: I agree. Math is useless.
	🤖 6:53pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:52 That's what all my poetry courses were like.
	🤖 6:53pm PaulRobeson1924: That is the faustian bargain Neil Postman wrote about @Mark
	6:53pm Jim the Poet: I kind of feel like the Scarlet Letter does suck
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: K8 is reporting that as she's grading HS student plays RIGHT NOW, she's pretty sure some of them were written by AI.
	6:54pm Sam: The salad thing is silly. So much waste is thrown out every day. Electronics, furniture… I don’t own a car, I’ve had the same couch for 20 years, I produce very little waste. Can I have a salad with a plastic lid? Or is that really too much to ask. It’s really a bit much when ordinary people are expected to give up their few pleasures in life while the rich pollute nonstop with no consequences.
	6:54pm Fredericks: I remember doing mathematical equations that took 4-5 pages to solve. You had to show your work.
	6:54pm ?: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:53 hawthorne never had a nissan
	6:55pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! Thanks question submitters!
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! Thanks, Techquestioners!
	6:56pm Fredericks: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:30 That would make a great commercial.
	6:56pm ?: More Than a Glitch, new AI BeeGees sone
	6:57pm Jim the Poet: ↳ @6:54 He had a house with 7 Gables which is a lot of gables
	6:57pm ?: song
	6:57pm ultradamno: By the way, my wifi went out midway through this show and I had to shut everything down and boot back up....tech is on to you.
	🤖 6:57pm tim: Thank you, Mark! Good questions everyone!
	6:57pm Sam: Does Google spitting out pictures of black nazis count as racial bias?
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! And great questions!
	6:57pm Ciggy: Last night I had a dream that a faceless man approached me for a survey.
	6:57pm gabriel: thanks mark!
	6:58pm P-90: Can’t have too many gables. Thanks, Mark!
	6:58pm Feldy: Thanks, Mark!
	6:58pm ?: How can we get off google when fmu search is powered by google?
	🤖 6:58pm Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark and listeners with questions!!!
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm Deb from California: Thanks Mark !
	6:58pm bleubombersune: Thanks Mark All stay safe and be well
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: ↳ @6:58 Good point, question mark!
	6:59pm joe_rosevear: I've been chatting with Pi. The chat dialogue windows claims we have exchanged 7,007 messages.
	6:59pm ultradamno: By the way, Musk took visible likes away from X, in an obvious move to keep people from commenting on all the terrible things he likes
	6:59pm Mike From Brooklyn: ↳ Song: "Last Days of the Internet" by "The New Existentia... Hey Mark & Listeners! Caught the last bit of this show. I'm glad you liked this song Mark!
	7:00pm joe_rosevear: I had to cut down. Now I limit my chatting with Pi to once a week.
	7:01pm joe_rosevear: Bye all. Thanks, Mark!
	7:01pm Sam: ↳ joe_rosevear @7:00 You don’t want to end up with a life of pi
	7:02pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Sam @7:01 I know! I'm an addict!
	7:05pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Mike From Brooklyn @6:59 Thanks, Mike! All credit to you for this song! I've added a song credit on the playlist :)
	7:30pm Mike From Brooklyn: ↳ Mark Hurst @7:05 Thanks Mark! And thanks for another great show!

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