WFMU: The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from June 2, 2024

Listener comments!
	🕰 7:00pm Listener Gregory: Good picture, tom-squared!
	7:03pm doctorjazz: Hi Peter, Clockers! Been listening to Darcy James Argue-Brooklyn Babylon while waiting fit the show (and making dinner).
	7:03pm neveract: Hi DJ Peter!
	7:03pm neveract: ↳ doctorjazz @7:03 Hi doc!
	7:04pm bigplanetnoise: Evening, DJ P!
	🕰 7:04pm WR: Hi Peter, neveract, doctorjazz, Listener Gregory. BPN!
	7:05pm bigplanetnoise: Hey WR!
	7:05pm neveract: ↳ WR @7:04 🖐🏼
	7:05pm DJ Peter: Hey LG, Doc, BPN, WR! Neveract: where you been keeping yo'self?
	7:05pm doctorjazz: Hi neveract!
	7:07pm doctorjazz: Hi LG, WR, BPN, and anyone who's initials I missed.
	7:08pm bigplanetnoise: Hola, docjazz!
	🕰 7:08pm Listener Gregory: Hi, DJ Peter and all. I never heard Soft Machine back in the day, and I sense that this might have been a mistake.
	7:09pm neveract: ↳ DJ Peter @7:05 I had company one weekend and I had dismantled my audio equipment for a while to arrange it more efficiently.. so I've missed some shows. But all back to (ab)normal now!
	7:10pm doctorjazz: Missed Soft Machine and Elton Dean the 1st time around (jazz and similar wasn't in my radar then, mostly Grateful Dead and similar).
	7:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ neveract @7:09 Oh I hate dismantling but I know the feeling of "this can be more efficient"!
	7:11pm DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @7:10 I was very late to Soft Machine myself.
	7:15pm doctorjazz: ↳ neveract @7:09 I've read that just disconectimg and reconnecting cables is supposed to improve the sound of a system (removes some oxidation at the connection). But I only do it if necessary for other reasons.
	7:16pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" Lovely!
	🕰 7:18pm Listener Gregory: Where is Old Main Chapel? There may be a few of them.
	7:18pm neveract: ↳ doctorjazz @7:15 yeah.. I actually do that and I toggle/rotate all the switches and knobs on all my components! But this was mostly for the sake of space efficiency and aesthetics. Having a switch box made too so I can route different inputs to different amps and speakers!
	🕰 7:19pm Listener Gregory: ↳ neveract @7:18 And then you can open a stereo store!
	7:20pm neveract: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:19 haha! I'd be a terrible hi-fi store owner... I get too attached.
	🕰 7:21pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" This is not too bad!
	7:24pm tom tom the pipers son: thank you peter...and a quote no less ha! ty
	7:25pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:24 it's such a great description of the photo!
	7:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ewww, shucks would have liked to have been here for the soft machine
	7:28pm Erik/VT: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" Yea indeed - just when I thunk I may have saturated my Bill Frizzy needs (let alone under-appreciating Ron Miles at first listen, decades ago) we hear sumpin as delicious as this! Thanx😊.
	🕰 7:28pm WR: ↳ Song: "Out-Bloody-Rageous" by "Soft Machine" Have been considering this set. I have the 2009 CD release. It is 3 CDs which puzzled me so I put in the 3rd CD and see that it is the booklet. Website on a CD instead of printed booklet. Good for me because the print on CD booklets is often squintingly small. Still undecided about getting the new expanded release.
	7:29pm doctorjazz in the Berkshires: ↳ neveract @7:20 But the discounts, Ahhh...(it's like the drug user who deals to afford his habit)
	7:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @7:25 there are a few botanicas in the neighborhood so maybe the scenario is no accident
	7:29pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:28 It is the same set list both nights so... if you're looking for an excuse NOT to...
	7:30pm DJ Peter: ↳ Erik/VT @7:28 Hi Erik: seeing as you and Friz and Ron go way back... any guesses who "Queen B" refers to? (Not Beyoncé surely?)
	7:31pm neveract: ↳ doctorjazz in the Berkshires @7:29 haha!! 😁💨🌲
	7:34pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz in the Berkshires @7:29 I'm not in the Berkshires, came up from old posts (wouldn't mind being there...)
	7:38pm Erik/VT: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:26 FYI: It was worthwhile (fer sure) but Not the best sound quality live recording. (as mentioned by your estimable host). tttps query; you snapped that cornucopia food clock of the godz image?! - I can’t believe it even includes the ‘laughing’ part in that “Ha’s” at the very top! - well done👏
	7:38pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @7:34 Will be in the Berkshires at the end of June for the Solid Sounds Festival.
	7:39pm neveract: @DJ Peter: neither! Take your own food.. and take the train.. lol
	7:40pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Erik/VT @7:38 just noticed that good eye...thx
	7:41pm DJ Peter: ↳ Erik/VT @7:38 OMG
	7:42pm Little Danny: hello peter, all!
	7:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "I Concentrate On You" by "Max Roach +4" Cool track!
	7:42pm DJ Peter: Hey Danny! Enjoying this lovely weather?
	🕰 7:42pm Listener Gregory: Consumer Reports said recently that raw greens are among the “most dangerous” foods, from the perspective of food-based illness. But warmed-over sliders may not be much of a treat either.
	7:43pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:42 exactly. hence my dilemma. maybe going with a snack pack is the best call
	7:43pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "I Concentrate On You" by "Max Roach +4" Boy, does she sing behind the beat!
	7:43pm Erik/VT: When in doubt, usually choose cooked foods whilst traveling (unless no choice) - did you say pretzel🥨 sliders?
	7:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @7:43 right, it;'s sexy
	7:44pm DJ Peter: ↳ Erik/VT @7:43 that's right.
	7:45pm DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "The Moment" by "Elliott Sharp" I don't think anyone would say any of these three is behind the beat...
	7:48pm neveract: ↳ DJ Peter @7:45 beat me daddy, eight to the Buchla!
	7:49pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "The Moment" by "Elliott Sharp" is it possible to find a beat in improv like this, it does have a tempo in a way, and i think a dancer would be able to dance "to" it
	7:50pm Dean: My neighbor across the street went to school with Elliott Sharp at Buffalo.
	7:52pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @7:50 so it's HIS fault
	🕰 7:52pm Listener Gregory: There ARE many kinds of beans.
	7:52pm neveract: ↳ neveract @7:48 hmm.. i guess no modules were used on the album.. thought i heard some..
	🕰 7:53pm WR: Was big fan of Soft Machine since 1969. Missed seeing them twice. First time, even before I had heard of Soft Machine, my friends went to see Hendrix. I had heard Hendrix version of Hey Joe 10 times too many times and didn't go. Friends came back raving about the opening band with little long haired drummer who played in his under pants. There is a picture. wfmu.org... (readers in the future, sorry that link might go away in a few weeks) OK, so I get the first two SM albums when they come out. SM 3 is coming out on Columbia Records, we read in rock and roll press that they are touring. I say we, I work in a big record store in Dallas and we in the store start asking the Columbia salesman if he can get details on where SM will be appearing because we want to be there. We make a big deal of it and he calls back and says that he checked and they are only playing NY & California. We are broke record store hippies and bummed. A few months later I move to San Antonio where the company is opening a new store. As usual, I often play Soft Machine in the store. A new friend in San Antonio tells me that SM played there, that he heard they played in Houston as well. . . After Wyatt left Soft Machine my interest went down so never saw any of the later iterations of the band either.
	7:53pm Dean: Her. She just hung out with his musical crew. She sings, but not professionally. She's an architect. When Sharp played the Other Minds festival a few years back, she volunteered to take him from his hotel to the venue. (I had the pleasure of taking Roscoe Mitchell from his hotel to the airport. Problem was that nobody told me his entire ensemble would be with him...)
	7:54pm Erik/VT: ↳ DJ Peter @7:44 as an ‘autodidactic foodie’, I was unaware of anything labeled “pretzel slider” - yet after a brief interweb check - still utterly un-informed (typical😶‍🌫️)! 😉
	🕰 7:54pm Jeff Golick: I am sorry I missed that first set, oof. Was riding shotgun alongside a student driver. Needless to say, I did not have control of the radio.
	7:54pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:52 there used to se a turntablist/dj who was at tonic a lot and worked at kim's on st marks named beans
	7:56pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:54 Oy. Glad I'm not riding with a student driver in Brooklyn (or any of the boroughs) WR: great story, very "ships passing in the night" Dean: my bad, I misgendered Elliott Sharp's classmate.
	🕰 7:56pm Listener Gregory: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:54 Huh. I didn’t know them, but I might have crossed paths at either of those places. It’s a small world!
	7:56pm Dean: (I won't tell her!) (Anyway, she really wouldn't care.)
	7:57pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:56 my ex knew him
	8:01pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:49 re: beats and improv and beats.... as an analogy in abstract painting, like dekooning, there is an idea of an implied grid. is there some kind of grid behind improvised music?
	🕰 8:02pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beans, So Many Kinds" by "Kenny Warren" I think this song gives Peter the title of today’s show.
	8:02pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Peter and all
	8:02pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:01 nix the extra "and beats"
	8:03pm DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:02 Hi coelacanthø! Hang on while I implement LG's suggestion
	8:04pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:02 there was a long thread on charlie's show the other night about beans starting with camper van beetoven and van de camp beans
	8:05pm tom tom the pipers son: hi coelacanth
	🕰 8:05pm Listener Gregory: Is Billy Strayhorn the only jazz composer who got two standards out of the disease that was killing him? (UMMG and Blood Count)
	8:06pm coelacanth∅: so many beans, so little time. ...not that those 2 ideas have anything to do with each-other.
	8:06pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:05 that's an amazing bit of info
	8:06pm neveract: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:02 Hi coelacanth∅
	8:07pm coelacanth∅: ↳ neveract @8:06 aloha tom tom and neveract!
	8:08pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:01 no one interested in this analogy, i think it has legs.... imao
	8:09pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:05 Hmm... do addictions count as diseases? If so I'm gonna name Lou Reed and every blues musician
	🕰 8:09pm Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:08 Maybe a three dimensional grid (if that's still the word)? Implied beat, harmony, and/or melody?
	8:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:09 Yeah, the grid is there in deKooning because he has a canvas of fixed dimensions... is there a temporal equivalent for live performance?
	8:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:09 yes, time would be another dimension, but has improv even been analyzed structurally all that much, if at all
	8:11pm Dean: More gender policing: Which de Kooning?!
	8:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:11 the one who didn't have sex with thomas hess, to further the other's career
	8:13pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:11 I'm reading Derek Bailey's book on improvisation right now: I will return to it with an eye toward discussion of time and duration. I also wonder if John Corbett talks about it in his little volume on how to listen
	8:13pm neveract: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:08 sorry.. can't help ya tom tom.. tho I'd love to; my IQ not being too high keeps me firmly in two dimensions.. lol
	8:13pm Dean: Space is the equivalent for live performance, too, in my book. The structure of improvisation has surely been addressed by Baroque musicians and scholars.
	🕰 8:14pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "You Know I Care" by "Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinan... This guy plays saxophone “as a hobby”???
	8:14pm Dean: I have Bailey's book on my shelves, and I keep waiting to dig in. Do you know Ajay Heble's books?
	8:15pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:10 well there is plain old musical notation, maybe i'm just talking about a kind of graphic scoring
	8:16pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:15 Ah, now we're talking! Corbett vs Dempsey gallery had an exhibit of Wadada Leo Smith's "scores" a few years ago
	8:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:13 thx dean and space and time--->together
	8:17pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:14 That name is familiar... remind me?
	🕰 8:17pm Listener Gregory: Isn’t tom tom’s grid found in the titles of Anthony Braxton compositions?
	8:17pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ neveract @8:13 aww you shouldn't limit yourself...
	🕰 8:18pm WR: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:54 Come on, the first rule of riding shotgun is that you control the radio.
	8:18pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:17 oh that's interesting
	8:19pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Satellite" by "Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinand Povel" very 50's/Prestige Miles (bit of Trane, Giant Steps)
	8:19pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:16 a ha....
	8:20pm neveract: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:17 beyond my control.. shallow end of the gene pool..lol. A friend took me to a Jackson Pollock exhibit (did i spell his name right?).. I didn't get it AT ALL. But I did learn that he didn't listen to "modern" music; he listened to '20's-30's jazz.
	8:20pm Dean: I disagree. Kids need to learn how to work the radio, the manual transmission, their friggin' iPhones, and the Thomas Guide while navigating their one-ton weapons of middling destruction.
	8:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ WR @8:18 i always let the passenfer control the radio - as long as they play MY tapes or MY cds, or one of the 3 presets on MY radio!
	🕰 8:21pm Jeff Golick: Braxton's birthday is Tuesday, btw. (WKCR will have a 12-hour marathon.)
	8:21pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:20 I miss my Thomas Guide! from my L.A. days
	8:21pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:21 a drop in the bocket
	8:22pm Dean: I'm with you, DJ Peter. They were invaluable. Mine was LA, too. Twelve measly hours?! I suppose they're going to play only the first notes of every work he has ever composed or recorded?
	🕰 8:22pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:14 My hobby is making bathtub gin, not playing knotty Coltrane pieces in public for paying audiences.
	8:22pm doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:21 Will have to check it out, thanks Jeff!
	8:22pm coelacanth∅: ↳ neveract @8:20 genes are overrated. -except Gene McDaniels who's a bit underrated.
	8:23pm neveract: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:17 .. but I listen to DJ Peter's show.. and along with very insightful comments from listeners like yourself.. I'm learning to appreciate "more sophisticated" music (a little..lol)
	8:23pm tom tom the pipers son: in painting the grid was used not to "nail down" an understanding of a painting but to rather see the improvisation in relation to a rationalist structure, hopefully a grphic score of improv would have the same intention
	8:23pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:22 I guess they could play stuff from that period where everone in the band was also given an ipod with Braxton's previously released recordings on them... to trigger at will... I have that one around here somewhere, I think it was recorded in surround
	8:24pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:21 thx
	8:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:23 Just like a mug shot
	8:24pm neveract: ↳ Dean @8:20 I still have my Satanic Thomas Guide..
	8:24pm neveract: ↳ WR @8:18 YES!! 😂
	🕰 8:25pm Listener Gregory: 12 hours of Braxton on WKCR is likely 12 more hours than he will get on any other US broadcast station.
	8:26pm doctorjazz: In my family, the rule is the Driver picks what to listen to. I do most of the driving.
	8:26pm Kat in the chat: good evening! been lurking for a bit.
	8:26pm neveract: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:26 Hi Kat!
	8:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:24 right ... not a mugshot... that a nailing down like pinning butterflies
	8:27pm DJ Peter: Hi Kat! I been wearing my WFMU gear while walking around Philly, hoping to run into you
	8:28pm Kat in the chat: Ha, I was running around a fair amount this weekend but didn't spot any WFMU-wear in the wild. alas.
	8:28pm Kat in the chat: It was pretty darn nice out, yes?
	8:28pm coelacanth∅: ↳ doctorjazz @8:26 that is the correct rule. the driver should be relaxed and as happy/content as possible.
	8:29pm Dean: I let my kids pick the tunes in the car, which is by definition a bad sound system. Besides, it's fun. They play their stuff, e.g., Stephen Sanchez, whom I really enjoy, and then I provide some paternal instruction. I asked my daughter to play Roy Orbison's "Crying," which is an obvious inspiration for Sanchez. She now enjoys Roy, too!
	8:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:29 nice.. training a "ear"
	8:30pm Kat in the chat: I've been enjoying these "reruns"
	8:31pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:28 yesterday too, went to a barbeque
	8:32pm doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @8:29 When the kids were younger, they picked the tunes (usually the same CD again and again). My older daughter sometimes plays things for me, current, like the new Beyonce.
	8:32pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Dean @8:29 that qualifies as the driver choosing the music.
	8:32pm Kat in the chat: ooh a barbeque would have been nice!
	🕰 8:33pm WR: ↳ Dean @8:29 yes, give and take works best. On a road trip with my son, we jumped between WFMU streams and my son's YouTube feed. Lots of discoveries.
	🕰 8:35pm WR: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:28 Yes, that is best, pardon me, with my reminiscing of early 70s I was falling into youthful aggression patterns.
	🕰 8:36pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:22 To be honest, I don’t even know how to make bathtub gin. I had to make up a hobby.
	8:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:32 when ever i get down to philly i'll wear an fmu tee...
	8:37pm DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" Oh I forgot to say: the album credits Miles with trumpet on this release (not cornet)... but I read recently that he often played a G trumpet (as opposed to the standard Bb trumpet) to get a darker fuller sound... so I am giving up on any pretense that I can tell the difference between Ron Miles on cornet and trumpet.
	8:37pm Dean: I know a segment of pop songs from the last decade or two exclusively via Kidz Bop. I came to dig them. In some cases, their versions are superior to the originals. Drivers should be happy? Content? Sorry, not on this planet. If the opportunity every arises (not likely) do NOT vote for me for Emperor. I will immediately impose a 1-strike-and-you-are-so-far-out-of-here-that-your-Thomas-Guide-won't-help-you. Any moving violation? Bye, bye. No more driving.
	8:39pm doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @8:37 I never heard of a G trumpet (not that I'm a trumpet maven, but I thought wind instruments were tuned to B flat, E flat, all those chords that kill a rock/folk guitar player...)
	8:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:37 that would certainly help with traffic congestion
	🕰 8:40pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Dog" by "Stemeseder Lillinger Quartet" Did I hear Stemeseser as the keyboardist in Anna Webber’s group this year? I think so. He played a supporting role.
	8:40pm Little Danny: really diggin this track
	8:40pm doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:39 NYC is supposed to get "congestion pricing"; I already avoid driving in, that will be it for me.
	8:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:40 I saw the Webber group Shimmer Wince, was he the keyboard player? (more synth than other keyboards)
	8:42pm neveract: Gotta run.. Thank you DJ Peter! Everyone enjoy their Sunday evening!
	8:42pm spodiodi: greetings, DP Peter and all☀️
	8:42pm DJ Peter: In symphony orchestras there are all kinds, depending on the score: including in "concert C," Eb, even F... I was once at an orchestra concert where the tuba player (who had at least two different instruments at hand) had the wrong instrument in his lap when he had a solo passage, and had to transpose on the fly. I saw all my friends in the string section exchange startled looks as they didn't understand why the first note was wrong
	8:43pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @8:40 i don't drive, so it's outside my concerns, i'm not sure if it will improve quality of pedestrian-ship
	8:43pm DJ Peter: spodiodi ayo (to quote Jeff-o)
	🕰 8:43pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @8:42 Yes, exactly! And he’s on the album. I knew him first as the pianist in the Jim Black trio.
	8:46pm coelacanth∅: ↳ neveract @8:42 'night, neveract
	8:46pm coelacanth∅: olá spodiodi!
	8:47pm Dean: My recorder teacher transposes on the fly, which both impresses and intimidates me. This evening we performed a suite by Loiellet.
	🕰 8:49pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" I saw an article on this reissue and decided to try to get the CD (used or new). Price was prohibitive (for something I have never heard and just wanted to listen to).
	8:49pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:47 It's a necessary professional skill, especially in the days before computer score software: if you're in a big band, you might show up and be handed a chart written in concert key and be expected to transpose it
	🕰 8:52pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" What key is the bugle in, I wonder?
	8:52pm DJ Peter: I had hoped to make some money on the side copying parts (I found it relaxing): figuring out how to distribute the music across the page to make it legible, to make page turns possible, etc... Nice pens, nice paper... but "copyist" is not even a job anymore I don't think
	8:53pm DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @8:52 (i had hoped this some thirty years ago)
	🕰 8:53pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:52 I had a job copying music, but the Xerox machine broke.
	8:53pm Dean: And yet we are rightly adoring of the work of Medieval scribes.
	8:54pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks peter for another fine outing and thanks fellow listeners for entertaining my grid comment
	8:54pm doctorjazz: I used to copy music (or at least try) when I played guitar...
	8:54pm Little Danny: i honestly had no idea garbarek had stuff on ecm that sounded like this
	8:54pm Little Danny: this rules
	8:54pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:54 Thanks for the image, tom tom!
	8:55pm Kat in the chat: I think most of the jobs I would actually want either aren't jobs anymore, or they are jobs for brutally underpaid peopie in other parts of the world
	8:55pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:54 o0h my pleasure...
	8:55pm DJ Peter: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:55 truth
	8:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" Pretty wild cut!
	8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:55 that hit me like a splash of cold water
	8:57pm Kat in the chat: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:56 haha sorry to splash you!
	🕰 8:57pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" I got a live Garbarek album in the 00s (I think), and it seemed to me that he was playing great, but that his band was two levels below him. They just couldn't keep my interest.
	8:57pm doctorjazz: There's that bass walking us out, thanks DJ Peter, dug the show!
	8:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:57 ha ha!!
	🕰 8:59pm Listener Gregory: Thanks, Peter! Music... so many kinds.
	8:59pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:55 i had a friend was an artist for nabisco for years. then they decided to have everything created digitally (for obvious, though not necessarily justifiable reasons). my friend learned all the programs and kept her job; then after less than a year quit. it wasn't fun any more.
	8:59pm spodiodi: thank you, DJ Peter!
	9:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Peter!
	9:00pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:59 so all the l.ow wage workers are having all the fun...KIDDING
	9:01pm Kat in the chat: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:59 I can relate to this a lot. I used to do pasteup type things in the pre-Mac era. also sold art supplies to companies that employed artists like your friend.
	🕰 9:01pm Listener Gregory: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:59 Next step, AI will do all the artwork, and there won't even be digital artists.
	9:01pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:01 f that
	9:01pm DJ Peter: Primal Ice Cream: wfmu.org...
	9:03pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:01 sadly true. there aren't enough people that realise how mostly bad and certainly unnecessary ai is. especially younger folks - the ones soon to be in charge.
	9:03pm DJ Peter: September 1970s is correct! And now that i think of it, Garbarek & Rypdal had also recorded with George Russell several times before AFRIC PEPPERBIRD
	🕰 9:13pm WR: Thank you! Peter!

The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from June 2, 2024

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June 2, 2024: Beans, So Many Kinds

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"a kind of offering to some god of time" (tom tom the pipers son)

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Count Basie	M Squad Theme (excerpt)	Basic Basie	MPS	1969	Eric Dixon (fl) Freddie Green (g) Norman Keenan (b) Harold Jones (d) Chico O'Farrill (arr), et al.		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Red Garland	M Squad Theme "M Squad Theme" by "Red Garland"	Red In Bluesville	Prestige	1969	4/17/1959: Red Garland (p) Sam Jones (b) Art Taylor (d)		0:00:30 (Pop-up)
Soft Machine	Out-Bloody-Rageous "Out-Bloody-Rageous" by "Soft Machine"	Høvikodden 1971	Cuneiform Records	2024	2/27/1971: Elton Dean (reeds, eletric piano), Mike Ratledge (keyboards), Hugh Hopper (bass guitar), Robert Wyatt (drums)	*	0:04:01 (Pop-up)
Ron Miles	Queen B "Queen B" by "Ron Miles"	Old Main Chapel	Blue Note	2024	9/21/2011: Ron Miles (trumpet), Bill Frisell (guitar), Brian Blade (drums)	*	0:13:52 (Pop-up)
Bill Holman	A View from the Side "A View from the Side" by "Bill Holman"	Jazz In Concert	Jazz Heritage Society	2003	7/9/1993: SWR Big Band Featuring Bill Holman : Don Rader (flugelhorn) Ludwig Nuss (tb) Klaus Wagenleiter (p) Klaus-Peter Schopfer (g) Thomas Stabenow (b) Jorg Gebhardt (d) Bill Holman (arr,cond) et al.		0:26:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Don Pullen	Big Alice (alternate take)	Richard's Tune	Sackville		2014 CD reissue of "Solo Piano Album" with two bonus tracks. Recorded 1975.		0:33:56 (Pop-up)
Max Roach +4	I Concentrate On You	Moon-Faced and Starry-Eyed	Mercury	1960	October 1959: Tommy Turrentine (tp) Julian Priester (tb) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Ray Bryant (p) Bob Boswell (b) Max Roach (d) Abbey Lincoln (vcl)		0:38:55 (Pop-up)
Elliott Sharp	The Moment "The Moment" by "Elliott Sharp"	Ere Guitar	Intakt Records	2024	7/26/2023: Elliott Sharp, Sally Gates, Tashi Dorji (guitars)	*	0:43:41 (Pop-up)
Kenny Warren	Beans, So Many Kinds	Sweet World	Out of Your Head Records	2024	June 2023. Kenny Warren - trumpet, piano, production. Christopher Hoffman – cello. Nathan Ellman-Bell - drums	*	0:48:29 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Mary Lou Williams	Medi I "Medi I" by "Mary Lou Williams"	Zoning	Smithsonian Folkways		1/17/1974, with Bob Cranshaw (bass guitar). DJP edit.		0:56:52 (Pop-up)
Radio Rerun: The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited (1977)
Michiel de Ruyter & Radio Nederland/Dutch World Broadcasting System	Program 3: Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinand Povel	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited	Radio Nederland	1977			1:00:41 (Pop-up)
Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinand Povel	Upper Manhattan Medical Group	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited			July 4, 1976: Ferdinand Povel (ts) Rob Madna (p) Koos Serierse (b) Eric Ineke (d)		1:01:48 (Pop-up)
Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinand Povel	You Know I Care	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited					1:10:27 (Pop-up)
Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinand Povel	Satellite	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited					1:17:05 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ: Susie Ibarra Trio	Dreams (Alternate Take)	Radiance	Hopscotch	1999	7/18/1999: Cooper-Moore (p,harp,diddley-bo) Charles Burnham (vln) Susie Ibarra (d,perc)		1:28:45 (Pop-up)
Stemeseder Lillinger Quartet	Dog "Dog" by "Stemeseder Lillinger Quartet"	Umbra II	Intakt Records	2024	10/9/2023: Elias Stemeseder (piano, Lautenwerk), Christian Lillinger (drums), Peter Evans (trumpet, piccolo trumpet), Russell Hall (bass)	*	1:31:56 (Pop-up)
Jonathan Bäckström Quartet	Flower Growing, Dying	Jonathan Bäckström Quartet	We Jazz Records	2024	Adele Sauros, tenor saxophone. Marcus Wärnheim, alto saxophone & various flutes. Jonathan Bäckström, double bass. Benjamin Nylund, drums	*	1:37:29 (Pop-up)
Jan Garbarek	Beast of Kommodo "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek"	Afric Pepperbird	ECM	2024	September 1970: Jan Garbarek (woodwinds, percussion), Terje Rypdal (guitar, bugle), Arild Andersen (bass, african thumb-piano, xylophone) Jon Christensen (percussion). (Luminescence ECM Vinyl)	*	1:44:22 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Joe Chambers Moving Picture Orchestra	M Squad Theme	Live at Dizzy's Club Coca-Cola	Savant	2012	September 2011. Craig Handy (tenor sax), David Weiss (trumpet), Xavier Davis (piano), Dwayne Burno (bass), Joe Chambers (drums, vibes, arranger), Steve Berrios (percussion), et al.		1:56:45 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🕰 7:00pm Listener Gregory: Good picture, tom-squared!
	7:03pm doctorjazz: Hi Peter, Clockers! Been listening to Darcy James Argue-Brooklyn Babylon while waiting fit the show (and making dinner).
	7:03pm neveract: Hi DJ Peter!
	7:03pm neveract: ↳ doctorjazz @7:03 Hi doc!
	7:04pm bigplanetnoise: Evening, DJ P!
	🕰 7:04pm WR: Hi Peter, neveract, doctorjazz, Listener Gregory. BPN!
	7:05pm bigplanetnoise: Hey WR!
	7:05pm neveract: ↳ WR @7:04 🖐🏼
	7:05pm DJ Peter: Hey LG, Doc, BPN, WR! Neveract: where you been keeping yo'self?
	7:05pm doctorjazz: Hi neveract!
	7:07pm doctorjazz: Hi LG, WR, BPN, and anyone who's initials I missed.
	7:08pm bigplanetnoise: Hola, docjazz!
	🕰 7:08pm Listener Gregory: Hi, DJ Peter and all. I never heard Soft Machine back in the day, and I sense that this might have been a mistake.
	7:09pm neveract: ↳ DJ Peter @7:05 I had company one weekend and I had dismantled my audio equipment for a while to arrange it more efficiently.. so I've missed some shows. But all back to (ab)normal now!
	7:10pm doctorjazz: Missed Soft Machine and Elton Dean the 1st time around (jazz and similar wasn't in my radar then, mostly Grateful Dead and similar).
	7:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ neveract @7:09 Oh I hate dismantling but I know the feeling of "this can be more efficient"!
	7:11pm DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @7:10 I was very late to Soft Machine myself.
	7:15pm doctorjazz: ↳ neveract @7:09 I've read that just disconectimg and reconnecting cables is supposed to improve the sound of a system (removes some oxidation at the connection). But I only do it if necessary for other reasons.
	7:16pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" Lovely!
	🕰 7:18pm Listener Gregory: Where is Old Main Chapel? There may be a few of them.
	7:18pm neveract: ↳ doctorjazz @7:15 yeah.. I actually do that and I toggle/rotate all the switches and knobs on all my components! But this was mostly for the sake of space efficiency and aesthetics. Having a switch box made too so I can route different inputs to different amps and speakers!
	🕰 7:19pm Listener Gregory: ↳ neveract @7:18 And then you can open a stereo store!
	7:20pm neveract: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:19 haha! I'd be a terrible hi-fi store owner... I get too attached.
	🕰 7:21pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" This is not too bad!
	7:24pm tom tom the pipers son: thank you peter...and a quote no less ha! ty
	7:25pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:24 it's such a great description of the photo!
	7:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ewww, shucks would have liked to have been here for the soft machine
	7:28pm Erik/VT: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" Yea indeed - just when I thunk I may have saturated my Bill Frizzy needs (let alone under-appreciating Ron Miles at first listen, decades ago) we hear sumpin as delicious as this! Thanx😊.
	🕰 7:28pm WR: ↳ Song: "Out-Bloody-Rageous" by "Soft Machine" Have been considering this set. I have the 2009 CD release. It is 3 CDs which puzzled me so I put in the 3rd CD and see that it is the booklet. Website on a CD instead of printed booklet. Good for me because the print on CD booklets is often squintingly small. Still undecided about getting the new expanded release.
	7:29pm doctorjazz in the Berkshires: ↳ neveract @7:20 But the discounts, Ahhh...(it's like the drug user who deals to afford his habit)
	7:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @7:25 there are a few botanicas in the neighborhood so maybe the scenario is no accident
	7:29pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:28 It is the same set list both nights so... if you're looking for an excuse NOT to...
	7:30pm DJ Peter: ↳ Erik/VT @7:28 Hi Erik: seeing as you and Friz and Ron go way back... any guesses who "Queen B" refers to? (Not Beyoncé surely?)
	7:31pm neveract: ↳ doctorjazz in the Berkshires @7:29 haha!! 😁💨🌲
	7:34pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz in the Berkshires @7:29 I'm not in the Berkshires, came up from old posts (wouldn't mind being there...)
	7:38pm Erik/VT: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:26 FYI: It was worthwhile (fer sure) but Not the best sound quality live recording. (as mentioned by your estimable host). tttps query; you snapped that cornucopia food clock of the godz image?! - I can’t believe it even includes the ‘laughing’ part in that “Ha’s” at the very top! - well done👏
	7:38pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @7:34 Will be in the Berkshires at the end of June for the Solid Sounds Festival.
	7:39pm neveract: @DJ Peter: neither! Take your own food.. and take the train.. lol
	7:40pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Erik/VT @7:38 just noticed that good eye...thx
	7:41pm DJ Peter: ↳ Erik/VT @7:38 OMG
	7:42pm Little Danny: hello peter, all!
	7:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "I Concentrate On You" by "Max Roach +4" Cool track!
	7:42pm DJ Peter: Hey Danny! Enjoying this lovely weather?
	🕰 7:42pm Listener Gregory: Consumer Reports said recently that raw greens are among the “most dangerous” foods, from the perspective of food-based illness. But warmed-over sliders may not be much of a treat either.
	7:43pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:42 exactly. hence my dilemma. maybe going with a snack pack is the best call
	7:43pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "I Concentrate On You" by "Max Roach +4" Boy, does she sing behind the beat!
	7:43pm Erik/VT: When in doubt, usually choose cooked foods whilst traveling (unless no choice) - did you say pretzel🥨 sliders?
	7:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @7:43 right, it;'s sexy
	7:44pm DJ Peter: ↳ Erik/VT @7:43 that's right.
	7:45pm DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "The Moment" by "Elliott Sharp" I don't think anyone would say any of these three is behind the beat...
	7:48pm neveract: ↳ DJ Peter @7:45 beat me daddy, eight to the Buchla!
	7:49pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "The Moment" by "Elliott Sharp" is it possible to find a beat in improv like this, it does have a tempo in a way, and i think a dancer would be able to dance "to" it
	7:50pm Dean: My neighbor across the street went to school with Elliott Sharp at Buffalo.
	7:52pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @7:50 so it's HIS fault
	🕰 7:52pm Listener Gregory: There ARE many kinds of beans.
	7:52pm neveract: ↳ neveract @7:48 hmm.. i guess no modules were used on the album.. thought i heard some..
	🕰 7:53pm WR: Was big fan of Soft Machine since 1969. Missed seeing them twice. First time, even before I had heard of Soft Machine, my friends went to see Hendrix. I had heard Hendrix version of Hey Joe 10 times too many times and didn't go. Friends came back raving about the opening band with little long haired drummer who played in his under pants. There is a picture. wfmu.org... (readers in the future, sorry that link might go away in a few weeks) OK, so I get the first two SM albums when they come out. SM 3 is coming out on Columbia Records, we read in rock and roll press that they are touring. I say we, I work in a big record store in Dallas and we in the store start asking the Columbia salesman if he can get details on where SM will be appearing because we want to be there. We make a big deal of it and he calls back and says that he checked and they are only playing NY & California. We are broke record store hippies and bummed. A few months later I move to San Antonio where the company is opening a new store. As usual, I often play Soft Machine in the store. A new friend in San Antonio tells me that SM played there, that he heard they played in Houston as well. . . After Wyatt left Soft Machine my interest went down so never saw any of the later iterations of the band either.
	7:53pm Dean: Her. She just hung out with his musical crew. She sings, but not professionally. She's an architect. When Sharp played the Other Minds festival a few years back, she volunteered to take him from his hotel to the venue. (I had the pleasure of taking Roscoe Mitchell from his hotel to the airport. Problem was that nobody told me his entire ensemble would be with him...)
	7:54pm Erik/VT: ↳ DJ Peter @7:44 as an ‘autodidactic foodie’, I was unaware of anything labeled “pretzel slider” - yet after a brief interweb check - still utterly un-informed (typical😶‍🌫️)! 😉
	🕰 7:54pm Jeff Golick: I am sorry I missed that first set, oof. Was riding shotgun alongside a student driver. Needless to say, I did not have control of the radio.
	7:54pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:52 there used to se a turntablist/dj who was at tonic a lot and worked at kim's on st marks named beans
	7:56pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:54 Oy. Glad I'm not riding with a student driver in Brooklyn (or any of the boroughs) WR: great story, very "ships passing in the night" Dean: my bad, I misgendered Elliott Sharp's classmate.
	🕰 7:56pm Listener Gregory: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:54 Huh. I didn’t know them, but I might have crossed paths at either of those places. It’s a small world!
	7:56pm Dean: (I won't tell her!) (Anyway, she really wouldn't care.)
	7:57pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:56 my ex knew him
	8:01pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:49 re: beats and improv and beats.... as an analogy in abstract painting, like dekooning, there is an idea of an implied grid. is there some kind of grid behind improvised music?
	🕰 8:02pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beans, So Many Kinds" by "Kenny Warren" I think this song gives Peter the title of today’s show.
	8:02pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Peter and all
	8:02pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:01 nix the extra "and beats"
	8:03pm DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:02 Hi coelacanthø! Hang on while I implement LG's suggestion
	8:04pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:02 there was a long thread on charlie's show the other night about beans starting with camper van beetoven and van de camp beans
	8:05pm tom tom the pipers son: hi coelacanth
	🕰 8:05pm Listener Gregory: Is Billy Strayhorn the only jazz composer who got two standards out of the disease that was killing him? (UMMG and Blood Count)
	8:06pm coelacanth∅: so many beans, so little time. ...not that those 2 ideas have anything to do with each-other.
	8:06pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:05 that's an amazing bit of info
	8:06pm neveract: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:02 Hi coelacanth∅
	8:07pm coelacanth∅: ↳ neveract @8:06 aloha tom tom and neveract!
	8:08pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:01 no one interested in this analogy, i think it has legs.... imao
	8:09pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:05 Hmm... do addictions count as diseases? If so I'm gonna name Lou Reed and every blues musician
	🕰 8:09pm Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:08 Maybe a three dimensional grid (if that's still the word)? Implied beat, harmony, and/or melody?
	8:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:09 Yeah, the grid is there in deKooning because he has a canvas of fixed dimensions... is there a temporal equivalent for live performance?
	8:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:09 yes, time would be another dimension, but has improv even been analyzed structurally all that much, if at all
	8:11pm Dean: More gender policing: Which de Kooning?!
	8:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:11 the one who didn't have sex with thomas hess, to further the other's career
	8:13pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:11 I'm reading Derek Bailey's book on improvisation right now: I will return to it with an eye toward discussion of time and duration. I also wonder if John Corbett talks about it in his little volume on how to listen
	8:13pm neveract: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:08 sorry.. can't help ya tom tom.. tho I'd love to; my IQ not being too high keeps me firmly in two dimensions.. lol
	8:13pm Dean: Space is the equivalent for live performance, too, in my book. The structure of improvisation has surely been addressed by Baroque musicians and scholars.
	🕰 8:14pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "You Know I Care" by "Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinan... This guy plays saxophone “as a hobby”???
	8:14pm Dean: I have Bailey's book on my shelves, and I keep waiting to dig in. Do you know Ajay Heble's books?
	8:15pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:10 well there is plain old musical notation, maybe i'm just talking about a kind of graphic scoring
	8:16pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:15 Ah, now we're talking! Corbett vs Dempsey gallery had an exhibit of Wadada Leo Smith's "scores" a few years ago
	8:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:13 thx dean and space and time--->together
	8:17pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:14 That name is familiar... remind me?
	🕰 8:17pm Listener Gregory: Isn’t tom tom’s grid found in the titles of Anthony Braxton compositions?
	8:17pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ neveract @8:13 aww you shouldn't limit yourself...
	🕰 8:18pm WR: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:54 Come on, the first rule of riding shotgun is that you control the radio.
	8:18pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:17 oh that's interesting
	8:19pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Satellite" by "Rob Madna Trio with Ferdinand Povel" very 50's/Prestige Miles (bit of Trane, Giant Steps)
	8:19pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:16 a ha....
	8:20pm neveract: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:17 beyond my control.. shallow end of the gene pool..lol. A friend took me to a Jackson Pollock exhibit (did i spell his name right?).. I didn't get it AT ALL. But I did learn that he didn't listen to "modern" music; he listened to '20's-30's jazz.
	8:20pm Dean: I disagree. Kids need to learn how to work the radio, the manual transmission, their friggin' iPhones, and the Thomas Guide while navigating their one-ton weapons of middling destruction.
	8:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ WR @8:18 i always let the passenfer control the radio - as long as they play MY tapes or MY cds, or one of the 3 presets on MY radio!
	🕰 8:21pm Jeff Golick: Braxton's birthday is Tuesday, btw. (WKCR will have a 12-hour marathon.)
	8:21pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:20 I miss my Thomas Guide! from my L.A. days
	8:21pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:21 a drop in the bocket
	8:22pm Dean: I'm with you, DJ Peter. They were invaluable. Mine was LA, too. Twelve measly hours?! I suppose they're going to play only the first notes of every work he has ever composed or recorded?
	🕰 8:22pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:14 My hobby is making bathtub gin, not playing knotty Coltrane pieces in public for paying audiences.
	8:22pm doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:21 Will have to check it out, thanks Jeff!
	8:22pm coelacanth∅: ↳ neveract @8:20 genes are overrated. -except Gene McDaniels who's a bit underrated.
	8:23pm neveract: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:17 .. but I listen to DJ Peter's show.. and along with very insightful comments from listeners like yourself.. I'm learning to appreciate "more sophisticated" music (a little..lol)
	8:23pm tom tom the pipers son: in painting the grid was used not to "nail down" an understanding of a painting but to rather see the improvisation in relation to a rationalist structure, hopefully a grphic score of improv would have the same intention
	8:23pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:22 I guess they could play stuff from that period where everone in the band was also given an ipod with Braxton's previously released recordings on them... to trigger at will... I have that one around here somewhere, I think it was recorded in surround
	8:24pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @8:21 thx
	8:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:23 Just like a mug shot
	8:24pm neveract: ↳ Dean @8:20 I still have my Satanic Thomas Guide..
	8:24pm neveract: ↳ WR @8:18 YES!! 😂
	🕰 8:25pm Listener Gregory: 12 hours of Braxton on WKCR is likely 12 more hours than he will get on any other US broadcast station.
	8:26pm doctorjazz: In my family, the rule is the Driver picks what to listen to. I do most of the driving.
	8:26pm Kat in the chat: good evening! been lurking for a bit.
	8:26pm neveract: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:26 Hi Kat!
	8:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:24 right ... not a mugshot... that a nailing down like pinning butterflies
	8:27pm DJ Peter: Hi Kat! I been wearing my WFMU gear while walking around Philly, hoping to run into you
	8:28pm Kat in the chat: Ha, I was running around a fair amount this weekend but didn't spot any WFMU-wear in the wild. alas.
	8:28pm Kat in the chat: It was pretty darn nice out, yes?
	8:28pm coelacanth∅: ↳ doctorjazz @8:26 that is the correct rule. the driver should be relaxed and as happy/content as possible.
	8:29pm Dean: I let my kids pick the tunes in the car, which is by definition a bad sound system. Besides, it's fun. They play their stuff, e.g., Stephen Sanchez, whom I really enjoy, and then I provide some paternal instruction. I asked my daughter to play Roy Orbison's "Crying," which is an obvious inspiration for Sanchez. She now enjoys Roy, too!
	8:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:29 nice.. training a "ear"
	8:30pm Kat in the chat: I've been enjoying these "reruns"
	8:31pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:28 yesterday too, went to a barbeque
	8:32pm doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @8:29 When the kids were younger, they picked the tunes (usually the same CD again and again). My older daughter sometimes plays things for me, current, like the new Beyonce.
	8:32pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Dean @8:29 that qualifies as the driver choosing the music.
	8:32pm Kat in the chat: ooh a barbeque would have been nice!
	🕰 8:33pm WR: ↳ Dean @8:29 yes, give and take works best. On a road trip with my son, we jumped between WFMU streams and my son's YouTube feed. Lots of discoveries.
	🕰 8:35pm WR: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:28 Yes, that is best, pardon me, with my reminiscing of early 70s I was falling into youthful aggression patterns.
	🕰 8:36pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:22 To be honest, I don’t even know how to make bathtub gin. I had to make up a hobby.
	8:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:32 when ever i get down to philly i'll wear an fmu tee...
	8:37pm DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Queen B" by "Ron Miles" Oh I forgot to say: the album credits Miles with trumpet on this release (not cornet)... but I read recently that he often played a G trumpet (as opposed to the standard Bb trumpet) to get a darker fuller sound... so I am giving up on any pretense that I can tell the difference between Ron Miles on cornet and trumpet.
	8:37pm Dean: I know a segment of pop songs from the last decade or two exclusively via Kidz Bop. I came to dig them. In some cases, their versions are superior to the originals. Drivers should be happy? Content? Sorry, not on this planet. If the opportunity every arises (not likely) do NOT vote for me for Emperor. I will immediately impose a 1-strike-and-you-are-so-far-out-of-here-that-your-Thomas-Guide-won't-help-you. Any moving violation? Bye, bye. No more driving.
	8:39pm doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @8:37 I never heard of a G trumpet (not that I'm a trumpet maven, but I thought wind instruments were tuned to B flat, E flat, all those chords that kill a rock/folk guitar player...)
	8:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:37 that would certainly help with traffic congestion
	🕰 8:40pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Dog" by "Stemeseder Lillinger Quartet" Did I hear Stemeseser as the keyboardist in Anna Webber’s group this year? I think so. He played a supporting role.
	8:40pm Little Danny: really diggin this track
	8:40pm doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:39 NYC is supposed to get "congestion pricing"; I already avoid driving in, that will be it for me.
	8:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:40 I saw the Webber group Shimmer Wince, was he the keyboard player? (more synth than other keyboards)
	8:42pm neveract: Gotta run.. Thank you DJ Peter! Everyone enjoy their Sunday evening!
	8:42pm spodiodi: greetings, DP Peter and all☀️
	8:42pm DJ Peter: In symphony orchestras there are all kinds, depending on the score: including in "concert C," Eb, even F... I was once at an orchestra concert where the tuba player (who had at least two different instruments at hand) had the wrong instrument in his lap when he had a solo passage, and had to transpose on the fly. I saw all my friends in the string section exchange startled looks as they didn't understand why the first note was wrong
	8:43pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @8:40 i don't drive, so it's outside my concerns, i'm not sure if it will improve quality of pedestrian-ship
	8:43pm DJ Peter: spodiodi ayo (to quote Jeff-o)
	🕰 8:43pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @8:42 Yes, exactly! And he’s on the album. I knew him first as the pianist in the Jim Black trio.
	8:46pm coelacanth∅: ↳ neveract @8:42 'night, neveract
	8:46pm coelacanth∅: olá spodiodi!
	8:47pm Dean: My recorder teacher transposes on the fly, which both impresses and intimidates me. This evening we performed a suite by Loiellet.
	🕰 8:49pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" I saw an article on this reissue and decided to try to get the CD (used or new). Price was prohibitive (for something I have never heard and just wanted to listen to).
	8:49pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:47 It's a necessary professional skill, especially in the days before computer score software: if you're in a big band, you might show up and be handed a chart written in concert key and be expected to transpose it
	🕰 8:52pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" What key is the bugle in, I wonder?
	8:52pm DJ Peter: I had hoped to make some money on the side copying parts (I found it relaxing): figuring out how to distribute the music across the page to make it legible, to make page turns possible, etc... Nice pens, nice paper... but "copyist" is not even a job anymore I don't think
	8:53pm DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @8:52 (i had hoped this some thirty years ago)
	🕰 8:53pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:52 I had a job copying music, but the Xerox machine broke.
	8:53pm Dean: And yet we are rightly adoring of the work of Medieval scribes.
	8:54pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks peter for another fine outing and thanks fellow listeners for entertaining my grid comment
	8:54pm doctorjazz: I used to copy music (or at least try) when I played guitar...
	8:54pm Little Danny: i honestly had no idea garbarek had stuff on ecm that sounded like this
	8:54pm Little Danny: this rules
	8:54pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:54 Thanks for the image, tom tom!
	8:55pm Kat in the chat: I think most of the jobs I would actually want either aren't jobs anymore, or they are jobs for brutally underpaid peopie in other parts of the world
	8:55pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:54 o0h my pleasure...
	8:55pm DJ Peter: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:55 truth
	8:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" Pretty wild cut!
	8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:55 that hit me like a splash of cold water
	8:57pm Kat in the chat: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:56 haha sorry to splash you!
	🕰 8:57pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Beast of Kommodo" by "Jan Garbarek" I got a live Garbarek album in the 00s (I think), and it seemed to me that he was playing great, but that his band was two levels below him. They just couldn't keep my interest.
	8:57pm doctorjazz: There's that bass walking us out, thanks DJ Peter, dug the show!
	8:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:57 ha ha!!
	🕰 8:59pm Listener Gregory: Thanks, Peter! Music... so many kinds.
	8:59pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Kat in the chat @8:55 i had a friend was an artist for nabisco for years. then they decided to have everything created digitally (for obvious, though not necessarily justifiable reasons). my friend learned all the programs and kept her job; then after less than a year quit. it wasn't fun any more.
	8:59pm spodiodi: thank you, DJ Peter!
	9:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Peter!
	9:00pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:59 so all the l.ow wage workers are having all the fun...KIDDING
	9:01pm Kat in the chat: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:59 I can relate to this a lot. I used to do pasteup type things in the pre-Mac era. also sold art supplies to companies that employed artists like your friend.
	🕰 9:01pm Listener Gregory: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:59 Next step, AI will do all the artwork, and there won't even be digital artists.
	9:01pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:01 f that
	9:01pm DJ Peter: Primal Ice Cream: wfmu.org...
	9:03pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:01 sadly true. there aren't enough people that realise how mostly bad and certainly unnecessary ai is. especially younger folks - the ones soon to be in charge.
	9:03pm DJ Peter: September 1970s is correct! And now that i think of it, Garbarek & Rypdal had also recorded with George Russell several times before AFRIC PEPPERBIRD
	🕰 9:13pm WR: Thank you! Peter!

The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from June 2, 2024

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