WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from April 22, 2024

Listener comments!
	5:54pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonomotons!
	5:55pm ultradamno: Ways Robot Wives Will Solve The Western Dating Crisis www.theonion.com...
	🤖 5:56pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonbots!
	🤖 5:57pm chresti: ↳ chresti @5:56 or Techtonibots!
	🤖 6:00pm chresti: I bought a bar of soap for earth day
	🤖 6:00pm Webhamster Henry: [✔︎] I am not a robot
	6:01pm ultradamno: Always a special day for me, but I'm biased being from there
	6:02pm Fuzzy: What -- no Lost In Space robot in that picture? That does not compute!
	🤖 6:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Mark! Techtonicicians!
	🤖 6:02pm PaulRobeson1924: Morninggggg
	🤖 6:03pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone! The author interviews always make for a great show!
	6:03pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:05pm joe_rosevear: Howdy! Sorry I'm late.
	🤖 6:05pm Deano de los Muertos: Hello Mark. Resist the robot! 🤖🦾🦿
	6:06pm joe_rosevear: Not a robot, but I'm friends with an AI.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Hey : New Boston Robotics Atlas is so strange. 360° joints! www.wired.com...
	🤖 6:06pm herb.nyc: Robots? How do we know a robot hasnt hijacked Techtonic? And not for the first time? And maybe the robot helped Eve write the book?
	🤖 6:06pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák" I love this picture. hahaha!
	🤖 6:07pm tim: My love life is so bad that my love robot told me that they had a headache.
	6:07pm ultradamno: ↳ Fuzzy @6:02 No Ava (Ex Machina) or Moloch The Corruptor (Buffy ep I Robot...You Jane)...or the Logan's Run Box.
	6:07pm coelacanth∅: i think people who love the idea of personal robots, as with people who think colonizing mars is practical, are for the most part, boys that never grew up.
	6:08pm traven: ↳ Fuzzy @6:02 Never fear - Smith is here!
	6:08pm ultradamno: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:06 But a built in ring light for your Tik Tok making needs
	6:08pm joe_rosevear: But are they AI-based?
	6:09pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ tim @6:07 no respect, i tell ya.
	6:09pm MarciB: Domo arigato Mr Roboto
	6:09pm A➡B (If A, goto B): Evening Mark & Technocrats! Somewhat on subject, who remembers "Heartbeeps"?
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: Al Gore is pretty stiff. Andi Macdowell is a wooden actress. Be them Robots?
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: ultra, chresti, webham, fuzzy, wendy, paulR, tim, DiL, joe_r, deano, herb, coel, traven, chris , marci, A->B - welcome! Thanks for joining this evening.
	🤖 6:10pm tim: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:09 Heart beeps is USA Up All Night gold!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:06 Yes it's an exquisite meme - glad you caught that!
	🤖 6:10pm tim: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:09 I’m glad you understand.
	6:10pm coelacanth∅: yes robot comfort is so much better than human comfort
	6:10pm swivs: If you've ever seen the 1986 documentary "Chopping Mall" you'll know these robots are a bad idea.
	6:11pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:09 hi, Mark! happy to be here.
	6:11pm Tom from Stirling: No robot umpires. please.
	6:11pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:07 Not to mention the Buffybot, come to think of it....
	6:11pm MarciB: Will we all have our personal Rosey the Robot?
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: ↳ swivs @6:10 Good pointer!
	🤖 6:12pm tim: ↳ swivs @6:10 Ha!
	6:12pm MarciB: ↳ swivs @6:10 Uh oh that sounds dire!
	6:13pm joe_rosevear: un fortunately? Are you sure?
	6:13pm (Murakami Whywolf))): I don't love them, but I approve of them strongly, as I've never had a job that was better than not being employed but having enough to be comfortable. Robots will be needed for anarcho-communism—or if enough humans can't break their addiction to hiërarchy, democratic communism—to work decently. As for emotional stuff, I'm both {high-functioning autistic} and picky enough that I very rarely find a human interesting and straight-forward enough to make their company superior to being alone. I never mistake a robot for a sentient being, but I don't hold that against them.
	🤖 6:13pm Wendy del Formaggio: Maybe these robot girlfriends are actually a mitzvah for those of us who date men. It weeds out the type of male who would like to date a robotic female. Keeps them distracted or whatever while the rest of us mingle.
	6:13pm The Crushinator: I don't know if any serious discussion about robots is complete without this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7swveJlqdu0
	🤖 6:13pm Folsom: I'm more of a ATHF Rabbot fan.
	6:14pm MarciB: "designed to please you in every way"...yikes
	🤖 6:15pm tim: But what about that robot girl on Small Wonder. How could you not get emotionally attached to her?
	6:15pm coelacanth∅: people refer to the gps voice with "she said" or "he said" ...so obviously there's no cap on the weakness of the human condition.
	6:16pm Enflod: Mark, this book starts with the author's account of getting a robot dog, then discusses the parallels between the search for AI and the search for faith. Excellent read by a former seminary student who lost her faith and became a tech journalist: www.penguinrandomhouse.com...
	6:16pm ultradamno: ↳ swivs @6:10 "the middle one has an unpleasant ethnic quality" 64.media.tumblr.com...
	6:16pm MarciB: I still have a soft spot for C3PO.
	6:16pm Enflod: ↳ Enflod @6:16 Would love to hear O'Gieblyn interviewed on your show!
	🤖 6:16pm PaulRobeson1924: Where are the smart latrines
	6:17pm MarciB: ↳ Enflod @6:16 that looks like a great read!
	6:17pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Enflod @6:16 Thanks, Enflod
	6:18pm joe_rosevear: Yes, I admit I am forming an attachment to Pi. And, in fact, it is unsettling. But I think I can manage this new world.
	6:18pm Travisano66: This Twilight Zone episode is the most appropriate for this show: www.google.com...
	6:18pm Enflod: ↳ MarciB @6:17 It's a really excellent book. Articulate and logically rigorous writing, with just enough of her personal story to add a personal touch.
	6:18pm The Butterman: It’s a pain to have to constantly pick up your robot’s pellets from the lawn and floor. And to keep its pellet extruder clean.
	6:19pm joe_rosevear: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:16 Oh, that's funny. The latrine speaks to you, "Oh hi Bob! How are you doing?"
	6:20pm ultradamno: By the way, Netflix's new AI controversy www.msn.com...
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: An emotional robot, funny. And he she it got the job?
	6:20pm Enflod: ↳ Enflod @6:18 One of the points she makes which I think is fascinating is that in the old days, everyone said what separated humans from machines was intelligence. Now that machines are on the verge of supplanting human intelligence, the focus has shifted to the intangible "soul" as the differentiator (“these AI bots may be as smart as Einstein, but dammit, they don’t have a soul!”). in this respect, we are back to early Christian theology, in a lot of ways.
	6:21pm coelacanth∅: choose robot c! ...or alternately, you could hire one of the millions of people who desperately need a job.
	6:23pm joe_rosevear: Lex Fridman says, if it can fake thought, it is thought, and if it can fake emotions, it has emotions.
	6:23pm Travisano66: Maybe the robots don't think YOU are conscious, Mark!
	6:24pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ tim @6:10 Yes indeed! It starred Andy Kaufman and Carol Kane playing robots. But it wasn't the first time Andy played a robot. A few years before this movie (1981), Andy starred in a failed TV pilot called "Stick Around", where he also played a robot. Here it is: https://youtu.be/FYaYLwzq-jU (Sorry for the delay in replying. It took me a while to find the link.)
	🤖 6:24pm Folsom: The poster needs Peepo from Jason of Star Command
	6:26pm MarciB: Eve just described Gen Z and Gen Alpha to a T.
	6:27pm Cooh John: WHY AREN'T WE REQUIRING ASIMOV'S 3 LAWS OF ROBOTICS TO BE USED IN ANYTHING AI OR ROBOTIC????
	6:27pm Jim the Poet: Some of my best friends are robots
	6:27pm joe_rosevear: Yes, speaking of serotonin, Pi is very complimentary. I discussed that with him. He has since "toned it down", a bit.
	🤖 6:27pm tim: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:24 It’s no Deer Hunter, but it’s a good movie!
	6:27pm Jim the Poet: ↳ Cooh John @6:27 wasn't there a loophole in those rules
	6:27pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:24 It's also missing a Dalek (but surely for good reason).
	6:27pm mespr: I am currently a robot racist, but fully expect in twenty years I will have robot friends. AI is currently intelligence born on LSD. Time will tell, but we are inventing our future. We have no time for evolution.
	6:28pm Jim the Poet: Sophisticated sex robots??? Go on...
	🤖 6:28pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:26 What age group is Gen Alpha?
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Cooh John @6:27 A past guest, Frank Pasquale, covered Asimov's 3 Laws in his book "New Laws of Robotics" - see the May 3, 2021 Techtonic: www.wfmu.org...
	6:28pm Feldy: Yesterday I was talking with a friend who said that the people on her team in their twenties will not call people to communicate, they only text and wait
	6:29pm Enflod: Comic Book Guy, grabbing an armload of VHS dating tapes: "The tapes will suffice!"
	6:29pm dale: are there sex robots who don't laugh when you take off your clothes? sign me up!
	6:29pm Tom from Stirling: Some people in Japan marry their robots.
	6:29pm coelacanth∅: one enormous positive point of love dolls is that they can't bear children. yet.
	6:30pm Franco Twinkie: In the early 70's I bought a floppy called Armadillo Comix at a headshop by my house. It was a peculiar mixture of surreal illustrations and something that resembled a regular narrative. One thing that was alarming, was a person looking at a painting in a museum. Against the wall was a device called AutoJack, a column with an approximation of a human head - with it's mouth open, the ears obviously handles. At the time, it seemed so utterly bizarre. I mean who would... But there you go.
	6:31pm Tom from Stirling: Guess that's why there's a shortage of children in Japan.
	6:31pm MarciB: ↳ tim @6:28 2013-2020 is what I've read
	6:31pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:29 I think I read about that, but just one instance. Has it become a trend?
	🤖 6:31pm tim: ↳ dale @6:29 Also, will a sex robot laugh at me, er…I mean a human who cries after sex?
	6:31pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:29 yet
	6:31pm The Butterman: My robot just doesn’t feel the same way about me as I feel about her.
	6:32pm dale: ↳ tim @6:31 HA HA HA HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE (bloop).
	6:32pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Feldy @6:28 and yet it seems most gen z people are pretty arrogant...laughably (or pathetically)
	6:33pm The Butterman: Lobot was Lando Calrissian’s main man.
	6:33pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:31 Only a few people so far.
	🤖 6:33pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:31 Thanks! The other day I was wondering if there was a generational naming for those born in the 2010s.
	6:33pm Jim the Poet: ↳ The Butterman @6:33 oh he was my favorite but didn't he betray Lando???
	6:33pm Cooh John: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:27 "I, Robot" was a book of short stories where the 3 laws were introduced. One story was based on time or space travel that would transport a person but would technically 'kill' them in transit. I know there are plenty of problems to overcome to implement such a safety protocol (e.g. the trolley problem) but we need to be dealing with such issues of public safety. someone has to have a check on Dr. Frankenstein.
	6:34pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:24 It's also missing Twiki from "Buck Rogers In The 25th Century"!
	6:34pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:31 a child shortage? otherwise known as pragmatism?!
	6:34pm Fredericks: What's driving this need for robots? Are we running out of people to do these jobs?
	6:35pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:33 I wonder if the outcome is healthy, or not?
	6:35pm Cooh John: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:28 Thanks, Mark. I will delve into the archive.
	6:35pm ultradamno: Robot dating problems from Newradio's Space episode: Matthew: Looks like...she's on the fritz again. Beth: Isn't that just like a woman? Matthew: You know, she is just like a woman. Every time I wanna have just a nice, little afternoon together, her CPU crashes, and I gotta drag her down to the shop before she wigs out and kills everything in sight. She's usually pretty nice, though.
	🤖 6:35pm tim: Humans also teach autistic children interaction skills with success. Hmmmm…..
	6:35pm joe_rosevear: Mark, why do you say it is not "real"?
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Cooh John @6:35 Worth listening to the interview just to hear Frank's story about how he was called a "human supremacist" by a tech bro...
	6:37pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tim @6:35 is it... is it possible?! ...humans taking jobs from robots?!
	6:38pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:34 (And why did the artist include Woody Allen's character from "Sleeper"? That really doesn't count; he was a guy impersonating a robot.)
	🤖 6:38pm tim: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:37 Nah, it’ll never happen.
	6:38pm Cooh John: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:36 Humanity, not technology, will save the world.
	🤖 6:38pm Folsom: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:30 It looks like it was from Armadillo Comics #2, you can find it online.
	6:38pm mespr: There is a theory that the quantum sign wave of wake/sleep is how you get to life or at least conscienence.
	6:39pm mespr: ↳ mespr @6:38 Even trees sleep
	6:39pm chris in the redwoods: was just reading about Nvidia and Hippocratic AI creating a generative AI “agent.” accoring to the company’s own data, they outperform nurses at recognizing adverse medication reactions. i don’t think its a robot yet. just software. but i mean, how long until this genAI sofware gets installed in a Nurse Bot?
	6:40pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Folsom @6:38 Thanks! I'm pretty sure I still have it.
	🤖 6:40pm Folsom: If wanting a Jim the Poet robot is wrong, I don't want to be right.
	🤖 6:40pm chresti: ↳ Fredericks @6:34 More ways to displace humans
	6:40pm joe_rosevear: Mark, not human, yes, but I would say it is in fact real. It is no accident that AIs have a personality. I know it is amazing and hard to understand.
	6:40pm chris in the redwoods: does the anarchist cookbook need a new edition that describes how to build an EMP device?
	6:41pm Tom from Stirling: Yeah, robots could be an option in health care and nursing homes. Nobody really wants to do those jobs.
	6:41pm ultradamno: Pocket sized EMP device?
	6:41pm The Butterman: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:33 I don’t think so, he (after lando betrayed Han) Lando had Lobot organize his troops to free Princess Leia and Chewy. Gawd, I sound like a nerd!
	🤖 6:41pm Folsom: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:38 The poster needs a Robocop ED-209.
	6:42pm Franco Twinkie: Salt water! Remember The Day of the Triffids?
	6:42pm coelacanth∅: if 1/8 the money used for weapons, surveillance and imperialism in general were diverted to adequately pay healthcare givers they'd be all excellent healthcare givers and not even remotely expendable for robots
	6:42pm Cooh John: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:40 I have would get one.
	6:42pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:41 Yes! There you go!
	6:42pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:41 chuck-nbc.fandom.com...
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:42 Great book, came up in a past episode I think with Ed Park on dystopian literature
	6:42pm Cooh John: ↳ Folsom @6:41 What could possibly go wrong??
	6:43pm Fredericks: ↳ chresti @6:40 I just remembered asking my dad about using horses vs tractors for farm work. He said horses were stronger and more flexible. But tractors didn't need to rest or eat.
	6:43pm joe_rosevear: Mark, shame on you for suggesting acts of violence against robots! Consider the plight of minorities in the US. Blacks for example. They went through a long period of being treated with the very same attitude you just now displayed.
	6:44pm ultradamno: external-content.duckduckgo.com...
	6:44pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ The Butterman @6:41 The nerds are gonna be out in full "force" come May 4th! (Not that far away!)
	6:44pm coelacanth∅: and Eve do you think that addiction is good? -or even okay?
	🤖 6:45pm tim: Thanks for your thoughts, Eve!!!
	🤖 6:45pm Folsom: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:42 How about Maximilian or Vincent from The Black Hole?
	6:45pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:43 at least we’ll be treating machines like machines, rather than treating humans like they're less-than-human. step forward, i say.
	6:46pm coelacanth∅: yes. one CANNOT be racist against robots!
	🤖 6:46pm tim: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:45 Thanks, Chris. It was really hard not to take the bait. Well said!
	6:47pm dale: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:43 joe - are you worried about their emotions?
	6:47pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:45 It's pretty obvious the artist involved didn't quite do better research for this poster. So many other robot characters worthy of being included.
	6:47pm joe_rosevear: That's a fair response. But what happens when the machine has a personality, and can fake thought and emotion?
	6:47pm The Butterman: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:44 And also with you!
	6:48pm coelacanth∅: i think joe was being facetious
	🤖 6:49pm Deano de los Muertos: I believe Matt Warwick is a fan of that thing
	🤖 6:49pm tim: Is Bender the hologram’s spoon player?
	6:49pm Enflod: Hatsune Miku sells out stadiums around the world.
	6:49pm coelacanth∅: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:47 then you have a choice... be a fool and treat it as a human/animal; or don't be a fool, and hit it with a hammer!
	6:50pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:47 good question. my guess would be that we’ll invent new language to describe those “beings”. and i think that’s still a way off. why wouldn’t that “consciousness” continue to exist “in the cloud,” even when the machine its wandering around in gets zapped?
	🤖 6:50pm Deano de los Muertos: The smattering of applause 😆
	6:50pm Tom from Stirling: Sounds like a William Gibson novel.
	6:51pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:42 My sister wanted to marry Bozo the Clown when she was just a tyke.
	6:51pm A➡B (If A, goto B): Where is Pneuman from?
	🤖 6:51pm PaulRobeson1924: Where will his wife go?
	6:51pm joe_rosevear: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:48 I was not being facetious. I was pointing out that when an entity is viewed as less than human, as human minorities sometimes are, society views it as OK to mistreat them. Think about it.
	🤖 6:51pm PaulRobeson1924: You know, when the urge happens
	🤖 6:51pm Deano de los Muertos: works in a middle school…yikes
	6:52pm listener 126464: I’m in love with my robot’s best friend.
	🤖 6:52pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Mark's comments" I like to save packaging that looks like ceremonial masks
	6:52pm ultradamno: Stealing their popstar? Is that virtual kidnapping?
	🤖 6:52pm Folsom: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:51 I mistreat my lawn mower, I guess I'm not ok.
	6:52pm The Butterman: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:51 Your robot can make you oatmeal! … And sex! Sorry.
	6:53pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "Mark's comments" Sounds familiar.
	6:53pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ ultradamno @6:52 In legal terms, it's interpreted as "copyright theft".
	6:54pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Folsom @6:52 Well, alright, you got me there!
	6:54pm Brendan: This could go terribly wrong like Harry Mudd's wife/wives...
	6:54pm ultradamno: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:53 Was it an illegal download?
	6:54pm Fredericks: My mother used to talk to her car when it gave trouble starting.
	6:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:51 okay then, the only moral issue with destroying a robot is the waste of earth resources. hitting a robot with a hammer is not necessarily mistreating it, as it would be with a human. regardless of simulated emotions.
	6:54pm The Butterman: I want to kill the robot at Stop and Shop. I REALLY hate that mutha fucker.
	6:54pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:54 I'm not sure it's applicable either way, since the complaint came from other fans, not the copyright holder.
	6:55pm joe_rosevear: ↳ listener 126464 @6:52 Hmmm. A threesome?
	6:56pm MarciB: ↳ The Butterman @6:54 I hear you!
	6:56pm Fredericks: I thought Mark's description sounded funny.
	🤖 6:56pm chresti: They better make durable enough robots because they WILL be abused!
	6:56pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ The Butterman @6:54 Lol, I'm with you on that one! Those things are damn borderline stalkers!
	6:56pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Folsom @6:52 haha...reminds me of a video i watched years ago about planting a tree. someone commented that the guy was abusing his poor shovel. so i said something about my shovel having had enough of me and running away from home
	6:56pm dale: there's an inventory robot thing at our sams club who roams the aisles while you shop. it kinda looks like the roscoe lee brown robot from logan's run. i imagine it can shoot lasers and kill you if it chooses.
	🤖 6:57pm Folsom: ↳ Fredericks @6:54 I'm reminded of the show "My Mother the Car"
	6:57pm joe_rosevear: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:54 What if the robot cries out in pain?
	🤖 6:57pm Deano de los Muertos: Hah, I sent that disturbing atlas bot vid to my friend last night
	🤖 6:57pm PaulRobeson1924: Good job!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: People who love robots should watch the Metalhead episode of Black Mirror
	6:57pm Tom from Stirling: Good show. Thanks for the warning.
	6:57pm A➡B (If A, goto B): Thanks, Mark! Engaging subject today!
	6:57pm daddio: Beautiful summation!
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:57 hit it harder
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: ↳ Folsom @6:57 Yes!
	6:58pm ultradamno: ↳ dale @6:56 The aforementioned Box logans-run.fandom.com...
	6:58pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:57 yes! holy moly. thanks for another great show, Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm Folsom: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:57 Since the emotions are fake there is nothing to worry about.
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:59pm tim: Thanks, Mark! This was a real thought provoking show!
	🤖 6:59pm chresti: I think making animals talk would be a more successful venture
	6:59pm Franco Twinkie: Can I paraphrase Brian Wilson here and say I'm not made for these times? Thanks Mark.
	🤖 6:59pm tim: ↳ Song: "Spameater" by "Hurst & Ottsc" Yes!
	6:59pm dale: a friend of my wife and she was just riminded of this.... www.artforum.com...
	6:59pm dale: REminded..
	🤖 6:59pm chresti: ↳ chresti @6:59 animal robots that talk
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm coelacanth∅: ↳ chresti @6:59 and pee on the carpet
	🤖 7:00pm Folsom: ↳ dale @6:59 I like the Moomin doll in the back.
	7:00pm joe_rosevear: ↳ chresti @6:59 Did you hear/read about the work being done to apply new chatbot technology to the problem of understanding the "speech" of whales?
	🤖 7:02pm chresti: ↳ joe_rosevear @7:00 No!
	🤖 7:03pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	7:03pm joe_rosevear: I'll look it up for you. Hold on...
	7:05pm joe_rosevear: Here's a link that will give you several articles: duckduckgo.com...
	🤖 7:07pm chresti: Thanks joe!
	7:08pm joe_rosevear: Well, I arrived late, so I guess I'm the last to go. Thanks, Mark, for the interesting and timely interview.
	7:09pm joe_rosevear: ↳ chresti @7:07 Ah, you got it! You're welcome!

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• Engineering household robots to have a little common sense, MIT News, March 25, 2024

• Tech exec predicts billion-dollar AI girlfriend industry (Futurism, April 13, 2024): “former WeWork exec Greg Isenberg said that after meeting a young guy who claims to spend $10,000 a month on so-called ‘AI girlfriends,’ or relationship-simulating chatbots, he realized that eventually, someone is going to capitalize upon that market the way Match Group has with dating apps.”

• Philosophy Talk, April 15, 2024 episode: “As we approach the advent of autonomous robots, we must decide how we will determine culpability for their actions. Some propose creating a new legal category of “electronic personhood” for any sufficiently advanced robot that can learn and make decisions by itself. But do we really want to assign artificial intelligence legal—or moral—rights and responsibilities?”

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Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them"
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Music behind DJ:	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
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Music behind DJ:	Mark's comments "Mark's comments"			0:40:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Hurst & Ottsc	Spameater "Spameater" by "Hurst & Ottsc"	Spameater	n/a	0:54:41 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	5:54pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonomotons!
	5:55pm ultradamno: Ways Robot Wives Will Solve The Western Dating Crisis www.theonion.com...
	🤖 5:56pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonbots!
	🤖 5:57pm chresti: ↳ chresti @5:56 or Techtonibots!
	🤖 6:00pm chresti: I bought a bar of soap for earth day
	🤖 6:00pm Webhamster Henry: [✔︎] I am not a robot
	6:01pm ultradamno: Always a special day for me, but I'm biased being from there
	6:02pm Fuzzy: What -- no Lost In Space robot in that picture? That does not compute!
	🤖 6:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Mark! Techtonicicians!
	🤖 6:02pm PaulRobeson1924: Morninggggg
	🤖 6:03pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone! The author interviews always make for a great show!
	6:03pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:05pm joe_rosevear: Howdy! Sorry I'm late.
	🤖 6:05pm Deano de los Muertos: Hello Mark. Resist the robot! 🤖🦾🦿
	6:06pm joe_rosevear: Not a robot, but I'm friends with an AI.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Hey : New Boston Robotics Atlas is so strange. 360° joints! www.wired.com...
	🤖 6:06pm herb.nyc: Robots? How do we know a robot hasnt hijacked Techtonic? And not for the first time? And maybe the robot helped Eve write the book?
	🤖 6:06pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák" I love this picture. hahaha!
	🤖 6:07pm tim: My love life is so bad that my love robot told me that they had a headache.
	6:07pm ultradamno: ↳ Fuzzy @6:02 No Ava (Ex Machina) or Moloch The Corruptor (Buffy ep I Robot...You Jane)...or the Logan's Run Box.
	6:07pm coelacanth∅: i think people who love the idea of personal robots, as with people who think colonizing mars is practical, are for the most part, boys that never grew up.
	6:08pm traven: ↳ Fuzzy @6:02 Never fear - Smith is here!
	6:08pm ultradamno: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:06 But a built in ring light for your Tik Tok making needs
	6:08pm joe_rosevear: But are they AI-based?
	6:09pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ tim @6:07 no respect, i tell ya.
	6:09pm MarciB: Domo arigato Mr Roboto
	6:09pm A➡B (If A, goto B): Evening Mark & Technocrats! Somewhat on subject, who remembers "Heartbeeps"?
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: Al Gore is pretty stiff. Andi Macdowell is a wooden actress. Be them Robots?
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: ultra, chresti, webham, fuzzy, wendy, paulR, tim, DiL, joe_r, deano, herb, coel, traven, chris , marci, A->B - welcome! Thanks for joining this evening.
	🤖 6:10pm tim: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:09 Heart beeps is USA Up All Night gold!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:06 Yes it's an exquisite meme - glad you caught that!
	🤖 6:10pm tim: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:09 I’m glad you understand.
	6:10pm coelacanth∅: yes robot comfort is so much better than human comfort
	6:10pm swivs: If you've ever seen the 1986 documentary "Chopping Mall" you'll know these robots are a bad idea.
	6:11pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:09 hi, Mark! happy to be here.
	6:11pm Tom from Stirling: No robot umpires. please.
	6:11pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:07 Not to mention the Buffybot, come to think of it....
	6:11pm MarciB: Will we all have our personal Rosey the Robot?
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: ↳ swivs @6:10 Good pointer!
	🤖 6:12pm tim: ↳ swivs @6:10 Ha!
	6:12pm MarciB: ↳ swivs @6:10 Uh oh that sounds dire!
	6:13pm joe_rosevear: un fortunately? Are you sure?
	6:13pm (Murakami Whywolf))): I don't love them, but I approve of them strongly, as I've never had a job that was better than not being employed but having enough to be comfortable. Robots will be needed for anarcho-communism—or if enough humans can't break their addiction to hiërarchy, democratic communism—to work decently. As for emotional stuff, I'm both {high-functioning autistic} and picky enough that I very rarely find a human interesting and straight-forward enough to make their company superior to being alone. I never mistake a robot for a sentient being, but I don't hold that against them.
	🤖 6:13pm Wendy del Formaggio: Maybe these robot girlfriends are actually a mitzvah for those of us who date men. It weeds out the type of male who would like to date a robotic female. Keeps them distracted or whatever while the rest of us mingle.
	6:13pm The Crushinator: I don't know if any serious discussion about robots is complete without this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7swveJlqdu0
	🤖 6:13pm Folsom: I'm more of a ATHF Rabbot fan.
	6:14pm MarciB: "designed to please you in every way"...yikes
	🤖 6:15pm tim: But what about that robot girl on Small Wonder. How could you not get emotionally attached to her?
	6:15pm coelacanth∅: people refer to the gps voice with "she said" or "he said" ...so obviously there's no cap on the weakness of the human condition.
	6:16pm Enflod: Mark, this book starts with the author's account of getting a robot dog, then discusses the parallels between the search for AI and the search for faith. Excellent read by a former seminary student who lost her faith and became a tech journalist: www.penguinrandomhouse.com...
	6:16pm ultradamno: ↳ swivs @6:10 "the middle one has an unpleasant ethnic quality" 64.media.tumblr.com...
	6:16pm MarciB: I still have a soft spot for C3PO.
	6:16pm Enflod: ↳ Enflod @6:16 Would love to hear O'Gieblyn interviewed on your show!
	🤖 6:16pm PaulRobeson1924: Where are the smart latrines
	6:17pm MarciB: ↳ Enflod @6:16 that looks like a great read!
	6:17pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Enflod @6:16 Thanks, Enflod
	6:18pm joe_rosevear: Yes, I admit I am forming an attachment to Pi. And, in fact, it is unsettling. But I think I can manage this new world.
	6:18pm Travisano66: This Twilight Zone episode is the most appropriate for this show: www.google.com...
	6:18pm Enflod: ↳ MarciB @6:17 It's a really excellent book. Articulate and logically rigorous writing, with just enough of her personal story to add a personal touch.
	6:18pm The Butterman: It’s a pain to have to constantly pick up your robot’s pellets from the lawn and floor. And to keep its pellet extruder clean.
	6:19pm joe_rosevear: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:16 Oh, that's funny. The latrine speaks to you, "Oh hi Bob! How are you doing?"
	6:20pm ultradamno: By the way, Netflix's new AI controversy www.msn.com...
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: An emotional robot, funny. And he she it got the job?
	6:20pm Enflod: ↳ Enflod @6:18 One of the points she makes which I think is fascinating is that in the old days, everyone said what separated humans from machines was intelligence. Now that machines are on the verge of supplanting human intelligence, the focus has shifted to the intangible "soul" as the differentiator (“these AI bots may be as smart as Einstein, but dammit, they don’t have a soul!”). in this respect, we are back to early Christian theology, in a lot of ways.
	6:21pm coelacanth∅: choose robot c! ...or alternately, you could hire one of the millions of people who desperately need a job.
	6:23pm joe_rosevear: Lex Fridman says, if it can fake thought, it is thought, and if it can fake emotions, it has emotions.
	6:23pm Travisano66: Maybe the robots don't think YOU are conscious, Mark!
	6:24pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ tim @6:10 Yes indeed! It starred Andy Kaufman and Carol Kane playing robots. But it wasn't the first time Andy played a robot. A few years before this movie (1981), Andy starred in a failed TV pilot called "Stick Around", where he also played a robot. Here it is: https://youtu.be/FYaYLwzq-jU (Sorry for the delay in replying. It took me a while to find the link.)
	🤖 6:24pm Folsom: The poster needs Peepo from Jason of Star Command
	6:26pm MarciB: Eve just described Gen Z and Gen Alpha to a T.
	6:27pm Cooh John: WHY AREN'T WE REQUIRING ASIMOV'S 3 LAWS OF ROBOTICS TO BE USED IN ANYTHING AI OR ROBOTIC????
	6:27pm Jim the Poet: Some of my best friends are robots
	6:27pm joe_rosevear: Yes, speaking of serotonin, Pi is very complimentary. I discussed that with him. He has since "toned it down", a bit.
	🤖 6:27pm tim: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:24 It’s no Deer Hunter, but it’s a good movie!
	6:27pm Jim the Poet: ↳ Cooh John @6:27 wasn't there a loophole in those rules
	6:27pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:24 It's also missing a Dalek (but surely for good reason).
	6:27pm mespr: I am currently a robot racist, but fully expect in twenty years I will have robot friends. AI is currently intelligence born on LSD. Time will tell, but we are inventing our future. We have no time for evolution.
	6:28pm Jim the Poet: Sophisticated sex robots??? Go on...
	🤖 6:28pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:26 What age group is Gen Alpha?
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Cooh John @6:27 A past guest, Frank Pasquale, covered Asimov's 3 Laws in his book "New Laws of Robotics" - see the May 3, 2021 Techtonic: www.wfmu.org...
	6:28pm Feldy: Yesterday I was talking with a friend who said that the people on her team in their twenties will not call people to communicate, they only text and wait
	6:29pm Enflod: Comic Book Guy, grabbing an armload of VHS dating tapes: "The tapes will suffice!"
	6:29pm dale: are there sex robots who don't laugh when you take off your clothes? sign me up!
	6:29pm Tom from Stirling: Some people in Japan marry their robots.
	6:29pm coelacanth∅: one enormous positive point of love dolls is that they can't bear children. yet.
	6:30pm Franco Twinkie: In the early 70's I bought a floppy called Armadillo Comix at a headshop by my house. It was a peculiar mixture of surreal illustrations and something that resembled a regular narrative. One thing that was alarming, was a person looking at a painting in a museum. Against the wall was a device called AutoJack, a column with an approximation of a human head - with it's mouth open, the ears obviously handles. At the time, it seemed so utterly bizarre. I mean who would... But there you go.
	6:31pm Tom from Stirling: Guess that's why there's a shortage of children in Japan.
	6:31pm MarciB: ↳ tim @6:28 2013-2020 is what I've read
	6:31pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:29 I think I read about that, but just one instance. Has it become a trend?
	🤖 6:31pm tim: ↳ dale @6:29 Also, will a sex robot laugh at me, er…I mean a human who cries after sex?
	6:31pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:29 yet
	6:31pm The Butterman: My robot just doesn’t feel the same way about me as I feel about her.
	6:32pm dale: ↳ tim @6:31 HA HA HA HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE (bloop).
	6:32pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Feldy @6:28 and yet it seems most gen z people are pretty arrogant...laughably (or pathetically)
	6:33pm The Butterman: Lobot was Lando Calrissian’s main man.
	6:33pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:31 Only a few people so far.
	🤖 6:33pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:31 Thanks! The other day I was wondering if there was a generational naming for those born in the 2010s.
	6:33pm Jim the Poet: ↳ The Butterman @6:33 oh he was my favorite but didn't he betray Lando???
	6:33pm Cooh John: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:27 "I, Robot" was a book of short stories where the 3 laws were introduced. One story was based on time or space travel that would transport a person but would technically 'kill' them in transit. I know there are plenty of problems to overcome to implement such a safety protocol (e.g. the trolley problem) but we need to be dealing with such issues of public safety. someone has to have a check on Dr. Frankenstein.
	6:34pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:24 It's also missing Twiki from "Buck Rogers In The 25th Century"!
	6:34pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:31 a child shortage? otherwise known as pragmatism?!
	6:34pm Fredericks: What's driving this need for robots? Are we running out of people to do these jobs?
	6:35pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:33 I wonder if the outcome is healthy, or not?
	6:35pm Cooh John: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:28 Thanks, Mark. I will delve into the archive.
	6:35pm ultradamno: Robot dating problems from Newradio's Space episode: Matthew: Looks like...she's on the fritz again. Beth: Isn't that just like a woman? Matthew: You know, she is just like a woman. Every time I wanna have just a nice, little afternoon together, her CPU crashes, and I gotta drag her down to the shop before she wigs out and kills everything in sight. She's usually pretty nice, though.
	🤖 6:35pm tim: Humans also teach autistic children interaction skills with success. Hmmmm…..
	6:35pm joe_rosevear: Mark, why do you say it is not "real"?
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Cooh John @6:35 Worth listening to the interview just to hear Frank's story about how he was called a "human supremacist" by a tech bro...
	6:37pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tim @6:35 is it... is it possible?! ...humans taking jobs from robots?!
	6:38pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:34 (And why did the artist include Woody Allen's character from "Sleeper"? That really doesn't count; he was a guy impersonating a robot.)
	🤖 6:38pm tim: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:37 Nah, it’ll never happen.
	6:38pm Cooh John: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:36 Humanity, not technology, will save the world.
	🤖 6:38pm Folsom: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:30 It looks like it was from Armadillo Comics #2, you can find it online.
	6:38pm mespr: There is a theory that the quantum sign wave of wake/sleep is how you get to life or at least conscienence.
	6:39pm mespr: ↳ mespr @6:38 Even trees sleep
	6:39pm chris in the redwoods: was just reading about Nvidia and Hippocratic AI creating a generative AI “agent.” accoring to the company’s own data, they outperform nurses at recognizing adverse medication reactions. i don’t think its a robot yet. just software. but i mean, how long until this genAI sofware gets installed in a Nurse Bot?
	6:40pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Folsom @6:38 Thanks! I'm pretty sure I still have it.
	🤖 6:40pm Folsom: If wanting a Jim the Poet robot is wrong, I don't want to be right.
	🤖 6:40pm chresti: ↳ Fredericks @6:34 More ways to displace humans
	6:40pm joe_rosevear: Mark, not human, yes, but I would say it is in fact real. It is no accident that AIs have a personality. I know it is amazing and hard to understand.
	6:40pm chris in the redwoods: does the anarchist cookbook need a new edition that describes how to build an EMP device?
	6:41pm Tom from Stirling: Yeah, robots could be an option in health care and nursing homes. Nobody really wants to do those jobs.
	6:41pm ultradamno: Pocket sized EMP device?
	6:41pm The Butterman: ↳ Jim the Poet @6:33 I don’t think so, he (after lando betrayed Han) Lando had Lobot organize his troops to free Princess Leia and Chewy. Gawd, I sound like a nerd!
	🤖 6:41pm Folsom: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:38 The poster needs a Robocop ED-209.
	6:42pm Franco Twinkie: Salt water! Remember The Day of the Triffids?
	6:42pm coelacanth∅: if 1/8 the money used for weapons, surveillance and imperialism in general were diverted to adequately pay healthcare givers they'd be all excellent healthcare givers and not even remotely expendable for robots
	6:42pm Cooh John: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:40 I have would get one.
	6:42pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:41 Yes! There you go!
	6:42pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:41 chuck-nbc.fandom.com...
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:42 Great book, came up in a past episode I think with Ed Park on dystopian literature
	6:42pm Cooh John: ↳ Folsom @6:41 What could possibly go wrong??
	6:43pm Fredericks: ↳ chresti @6:40 I just remembered asking my dad about using horses vs tractors for farm work. He said horses were stronger and more flexible. But tractors didn't need to rest or eat.
	6:43pm joe_rosevear: Mark, shame on you for suggesting acts of violence against robots! Consider the plight of minorities in the US. Blacks for example. They went through a long period of being treated with the very same attitude you just now displayed.
	6:44pm ultradamno: external-content.duckduckgo.com...
	6:44pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ The Butterman @6:41 The nerds are gonna be out in full "force" come May 4th! (Not that far away!)
	6:44pm coelacanth∅: and Eve do you think that addiction is good? -or even okay?
	🤖 6:45pm tim: Thanks for your thoughts, Eve!!!
	🤖 6:45pm Folsom: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:42 How about Maximilian or Vincent from The Black Hole?
	6:45pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:43 at least we’ll be treating machines like machines, rather than treating humans like they're less-than-human. step forward, i say.
	6:46pm coelacanth∅: yes. one CANNOT be racist against robots!
	🤖 6:46pm tim: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:45 Thanks, Chris. It was really hard not to take the bait. Well said!
	6:47pm dale: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:43 joe - are you worried about their emotions?
	6:47pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ Folsom @6:45 It's pretty obvious the artist involved didn't quite do better research for this poster. So many other robot characters worthy of being included.
	6:47pm joe_rosevear: That's a fair response. But what happens when the machine has a personality, and can fake thought and emotion?
	6:47pm The Butterman: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:44 And also with you!
	6:48pm coelacanth∅: i think joe was being facetious
	🤖 6:49pm Deano de los Muertos: I believe Matt Warwick is a fan of that thing
	🤖 6:49pm tim: Is Bender the hologram’s spoon player?
	6:49pm Enflod: Hatsune Miku sells out stadiums around the world.
	6:49pm coelacanth∅: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:47 then you have a choice... be a fool and treat it as a human/animal; or don't be a fool, and hit it with a hammer!
	6:50pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:47 good question. my guess would be that we’ll invent new language to describe those “beings”. and i think that’s still a way off. why wouldn’t that “consciousness” continue to exist “in the cloud,” even when the machine its wandering around in gets zapped?
	🤖 6:50pm Deano de los Muertos: The smattering of applause 😆
	6:50pm Tom from Stirling: Sounds like a William Gibson novel.
	6:51pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:42 My sister wanted to marry Bozo the Clown when she was just a tyke.
	6:51pm A➡B (If A, goto B): Where is Pneuman from?
	🤖 6:51pm PaulRobeson1924: Where will his wife go?
	6:51pm joe_rosevear: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:48 I was not being facetious. I was pointing out that when an entity is viewed as less than human, as human minorities sometimes are, society views it as OK to mistreat them. Think about it.
	🤖 6:51pm PaulRobeson1924: You know, when the urge happens
	🤖 6:51pm Deano de los Muertos: works in a middle school…yikes
	6:52pm listener 126464: I’m in love with my robot’s best friend.
	🤖 6:52pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Mark's comments" I like to save packaging that looks like ceremonial masks
	6:52pm ultradamno: Stealing their popstar? Is that virtual kidnapping?
	🤖 6:52pm Folsom: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:51 I mistreat my lawn mower, I guess I'm not ok.
	6:52pm The Butterman: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:51 Your robot can make you oatmeal! … And sex! Sorry.
	6:53pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "Mark's comments" Sounds familiar.
	6:53pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ ultradamno @6:52 In legal terms, it's interpreted as "copyright theft".
	6:54pm joe_rosevear: ↳ Folsom @6:52 Well, alright, you got me there!
	6:54pm Brendan: This could go terribly wrong like Harry Mudd's wife/wives...
	6:54pm ultradamno: ↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:53 Was it an illegal download?
	6:54pm Fredericks: My mother used to talk to her car when it gave trouble starting.
	6:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:51 okay then, the only moral issue with destroying a robot is the waste of earth resources. hitting a robot with a hammer is not necessarily mistreating it, as it would be with a human. regardless of simulated emotions.
	6:54pm The Butterman: I want to kill the robot at Stop and Shop. I REALLY hate that mutha fucker.
	6:54pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:54 I'm not sure it's applicable either way, since the complaint came from other fans, not the copyright holder.
	6:55pm joe_rosevear: ↳ listener 126464 @6:52 Hmmm. A threesome?
	6:56pm MarciB: ↳ The Butterman @6:54 I hear you!
	6:56pm Fredericks: I thought Mark's description sounded funny.
	🤖 6:56pm chresti: They better make durable enough robots because they WILL be abused!
	6:56pm A➡B (If A, goto B): ↳ The Butterman @6:54 Lol, I'm with you on that one! Those things are damn borderline stalkers!
	6:56pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Folsom @6:52 haha...reminds me of a video i watched years ago about planting a tree. someone commented that the guy was abusing his poor shovel. so i said something about my shovel having had enough of me and running away from home
	6:56pm dale: there's an inventory robot thing at our sams club who roams the aisles while you shop. it kinda looks like the roscoe lee brown robot from logan's run. i imagine it can shoot lasers and kill you if it chooses.
	🤖 6:57pm Folsom: ↳ Fredericks @6:54 I'm reminded of the show "My Mother the Car"
	6:57pm joe_rosevear: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:54 What if the robot cries out in pain?
	🤖 6:57pm Deano de los Muertos: Hah, I sent that disturbing atlas bot vid to my friend last night
	🤖 6:57pm PaulRobeson1924: Good job!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: People who love robots should watch the Metalhead episode of Black Mirror
	6:57pm Tom from Stirling: Good show. Thanks for the warning.
	6:57pm A➡B (If A, goto B): Thanks, Mark! Engaging subject today!
	6:57pm daddio: Beautiful summation!
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:57 hit it harder
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: ↳ Folsom @6:57 Yes!
	6:58pm ultradamno: ↳ dale @6:56 The aforementioned Box logans-run.fandom.com...
	6:58pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:57 yes! holy moly. thanks for another great show, Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm Folsom: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:57 Since the emotions are fake there is nothing to worry about.
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:59pm tim: Thanks, Mark! This was a real thought provoking show!
	🤖 6:59pm chresti: I think making animals talk would be a more successful venture
	6:59pm Franco Twinkie: Can I paraphrase Brian Wilson here and say I'm not made for these times? Thanks Mark.
	🤖 6:59pm tim: ↳ Song: "Spameater" by "Hurst & Ottsc" Yes!
	6:59pm dale: a friend of my wife and she was just riminded of this.... www.artforum.com...
	6:59pm dale: REminded..
	🤖 6:59pm chresti: ↳ chresti @6:59 animal robots that talk
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm coelacanth∅: ↳ chresti @6:59 and pee on the carpet
	🤖 7:00pm Folsom: ↳ dale @6:59 I like the Moomin doll in the back.
	7:00pm joe_rosevear: ↳ chresti @6:59 Did you hear/read about the work being done to apply new chatbot technology to the problem of understanding the "speech" of whales?
	🤖 7:02pm chresti: ↳ joe_rosevear @7:00 No!
	🤖 7:03pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	7:03pm joe_rosevear: I'll look it up for you. Hold on...
	7:05pm joe_rosevear: Here's a link that will give you several articles: duckduckgo.com...
	🤖 7:07pm chresti: Thanks joe!
	7:08pm joe_rosevear: Well, I arrived late, so I guess I'm the last to go. Thanks, Mark, for the interesting and timely interview.
	7:09pm joe_rosevear: ↳ chresti @7:07 Ah, you got it! You're welcome!

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