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Description: Exuberance/Ebullience, banter, possibly an interview, context and connection, the familiar, the strange.



Find: Symphonies of Treble, Words Of Expectation, stab, skronk, shimmer, sheen, The New Sound of Now, Ideas for Walls, pleasure, pith, Flutter and Wow, Motorik, cowbells, disco akimbo, at least one Cantankerous Singer, The German Language, shards of glass, Ethiopian Punk, organic, synthetic, sawtooths & squarewaves, Library Riffage, yesterday's recipes, the wrong speed, intentional static, floating, ethereal, time and timelessness.

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Favoriting April 27, 2023: Industritiki

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Music behind DJ:
Sounds Of The Ocean 

Beach Sounds   Favoriting

Ocean Sounds 

Sounds Of The Ocean 

2016 

 

 

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Corporate Uncle vs Mark Stewart  Death Wire (Vocal) [Steve Marsh Remix]   Favoriting Death Wire Dub - Steve March Remix  eMERGENCY heARTS  2022  "Mark Stewart, frontman of the highly influential rock outfit the Pop Group, has died at age 62. Stewart’s death was confirmed by his label over the weekend; the singer has reportedly passed away in the early hours of Friday, 21st April. No cause of death was given. //// “Mute is deeply saddened by the loss of our dear friend, fellow agitator and creative force of nature, Mark Stewart,” the label wrote in a statement. “With such a unique interpretation on life, on everything, there really was no one like Mark Stewart. In honour of this original, fearless, sensitive, artistic and funny man, think for yourself and question everything!” “He questioned every single thing that was said,” the statement continued. “And in his political beliefs and in support of others, Mark was not just looking out for the underdog, he was intent that everyone got a voice, everyone got a chance. Oppression is the enemy.” //// Stewart founded the Pop Group in 1977 in Bristol with friends John Waddington and Simon Underwood – Gareth Sager and Bruce Smith soon completed the lineup. The band were heavily influenced by punk but drew from a huge variety of influences, including dub, funk, and jazz. They became pioneers of the post-punk movement, and their album Y, released in 1979, is considered a classic of the genre. //// The band disbanded in 1981 but reformed in 2010 and went on to tour semi-regularly – they released their first album in 35 years in 2015, called Citizen Zombie. Their last album was 2016’s Honeymoon on Mars. //// Stewart would release numerous solo albums across his career – his most recent was the collaborative album Vs, in 2022. He was steadfastly political throughout his career, railing against the evils of capitalism, consumerism, and authoritarianism."    0:00:23 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Mark Stewart vs Lee "Scratch" Perry 

Alpha (Dead Voices On Air spacenoise Mix)   Favoriting

Alpha - Dead Voices On Air Mix 

eMERGENCY heARTS 

2023 

Hopefully they would appreciate the dark humour in the fact that they are literally the dead voices on the air here... R.I.P. Mark Stewart & Lee "Scratch" Perry. This track was released March 10, 2023. ""Dead Voices on Air (DVOA) is Mark Spybey's main musical project. It was formed in 1992 when he emigrated to Canada from his native England. Using improvisation and sound layering as a source for their music, DVOA blends processed sound from primitive instruments and toys into rhythmic structures or dark clusters of ambient sound. The result is music for the eyes. This is not ambient chill-out, nor is it music for wallpaper. It is organic, eclectic improvisation, cut up and spat out. Either framed into short pieces of music or rough blocks of noise. Panambience is the term coined that perhaps frames this approach most adequately. //// NOTE: Dead Voices On Air was mostly a solo project of Mark Spybey for a long time, expanding to the band only several times before, but since 2020 it's officially a full band including: Mark Spybey, Lori Cole, Marko Roberti and Anatoly Grinberg." 

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Music behind DJ:
Mark Stewart vs Meat Beat Manifesto 

Rage Of Angels (Meat Beat Manifesto Dub Mix)   Favoriting

Mark Stewart - Rage Of Angels (Meat Beat Manifesto Dub Mix) 

eMERGENCY heARTS 

2023 

Much as punk & post-punk has long loved incorporating elements (or the whole) of dub-inspired playing & mixing; industrial music & dub can often be found crossing paths, too. Unlikely bedmates, but unafraid to conjoin. Meat Beat Manifesto is the "Industrial, Electronic, Experimental music act started by John Stephen Corrigan aka Jack Dangers and Jonny Stephens in 1987, Swindon, United Kingdom. Jack Dangers has led the group and been the only permanent member, collaborating with other members along the way. Meat Beat Manifesto worked with Consolidated and The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy to pioneer the early '90s "industrial hip-hop" sound. Meat Beat Manifesto's earlier work is widely credited with influencing trip hop, drum & bass and big beat." 

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Einstürzende Neubauten  Schmertzen Hoeren   Favoriting Kollaps  ZickZack  1981  Perhaps what’s most extraordinary about Kollaps is that it was made at all. Aside from those fleeting moments of tenderness, it’s a violent, raging, uncompromising din, made by urban nomads; at least one member was of no fixed abode. “It's not architectural destruction that haunts us,” said Bargeld in 1993, “it's the rift torn in the culture of Europe and especially Germany. The pre-war avant-garde tradition was completely severed. There was no German tradition one could refer to without feeling guilty. That culture which existed before the war is rightly forbidden to us, because of what it led to – or at best, did not prevent. Connect the ‘destructive character’ with this historical perspective and you have a key to our method and madness."    0:14:45 (Pop-up)
Front 242  With Your Cries   Favoriting Geography  New Dance  1982  Electronic body music (acronymized to EBM) is a genre of electronic music that combines elements of industrial music and synth-punk with elements of disco and dance music. It developed in the early 1980s in Western Europe as an outgrowth of both punk and industrial music cultures, the term first coined by Kraftwerk's Ralf Hutter...Front 242 are one of the best examples. Formed in 1981 in Aarschot, near Leuven, Belgium, by Daniel Bressanutti and Dirk Bergen, The "front" part of the name comes from the idea of an organized popular uprising and the fact that the word can be translated in many languages while retaining the same meaning...where the "242" was simply "a good design choice"...    0:17:21 (Pop-up)
Two Lone Swordsmen  Faux   Favoriting From The Double Gone Chapel  Warp Records  2004  Formed by Andrew Weatherall and Keith Tenniswood in 1996,following the dissolution of Weatherall's the Sabres of Paradise, Two Lone Swordsmen released material on the record label Emissions Audio Output, run by Weatherall.However, the small nature of the operation limited the duo's success and they subsequently signed to Warp. Since Weatherall's famed emergence as producer of Primal Scream's Screamadelica, he's had a hand in most areas of production, including a prolific DJ career and frequent remixing and board work for New Order, Saint Etienne, Beth Orton, and others..and here...he went full on Goth. It worked. RIP Weatherall, you are missed.    0:20:02 (Pop-up)
Nitzer Ebb  Let Your Body Learn   Favoriting That Total Age  UMG Recordings  1987  Formed in 1982 in Essex, UK Nitzer Ebb was inspired by the post-punk scene and specifically acts like "Siouxsie and the Banshees, Killing Joke and Bauhaus who were having a big influence on us, in some ways stylistically but also in the energy that they gave". Their debut album That Total Age was released in 1987. Depeche Mode, longtime friends and label mates of the band, invited them to open for the European leg of their successful Music For The Masses Tour in 1987.    0:21:58 (Pop-up)
Revolting Cocks  Attack Ships   Favoriting Big Sexy Land  Wax Trax! Records  1986  Revolting Cocks, also known as RevCo, are an American-Belgian industrial rock band, and sometimes supergroup, that began as a musical side project for Richard23 of Front 242, Luc van Acker, and Al Jourgensen of Ministry. The band's name came from an incident that took place in a Chicago bar; according to van Acker and Jourgensen, the band was trying out "insulting French expressions" on a waiter, ordering something they said meant "revolting cock" which led the waiter to say, "You are revolting cocks!" The album's title is a reference to a strip club in West Berlin. Jourgensen said that the club's large, neon sign was "the biggest capitalistic tease" for citizens in East Germany. The album was recorded in 1985 at ICP Studios in Brussels.    0:24:49 (Pop-up)
Skinny Puppy  Far Too Frail   Favoriting Remission  Nettwork  1984  Canada's Skinny Puppy are among the great innovators of Industrial music, and were initially envisioned as an experimental side-project by cEvin Key (Kevin Crompton) while he was in the new wave band Images in Vogue, Skinny Puppy evolved into a full-time project with the addition of vocalist Nivek Ogre (Kevin Ogilvie). The group's primary aim with the album was to bring attention to the topic of vivisection and other issues regarding animal rights.The album's subject matter also deals with subjects such as chemical warfare, environmental waste, and disease. They are currently on their retirement tour...and played in Toronto last night. It was awesome.    0:28:57 (Pop-up)
MADMADMADMAD  Shambles   Favoriting Do You/Shambles Single  Bad Vibrations Records  2023  London post-punk electronic trio MADMADMAD fizzes with a combustible energy. Shaped by the mutant sounds of no wave, post-punk and disco, the band aims to create unbridled joy in a fearless collision of genres that beckon you to the dancefloor. This is an excellent example of how industrial music sounds have reached through the decades to continue to influence exciting new music and push it to new directions...    0:32:35 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Bo Boss 

Tequila   Favoriting

Tequla 12" 

Il Discotto Productions 

1982 

An italo-disco version of Tequila? YES PLEASE. 

 

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Music behind DJ:
Grotto Terrazza 

Inspector Ginko   Favoriting

Kalte Köstlichkeiten 

Maple Death Records 

2022 

Grotto Terazza is the Munich based project of artist Thomas Schamann—known for his membership in Berlin Darkwave outfit Bleib Modern, and overall showcases a melange of musical sensibilities ranging from dark beat poetry, murder ballads, Neue Deutsche Welle, and the industrial post-punk experimentalism of Cabaret Voltaire. It's also vaguely exotica-esque..this song... 

 

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Throbbing Gristle  Exotica   Favoriting 20 Jazz Funk Greats  Industrial Records / Mute  1979 / 2017  "Industrial Records is a record label established in 1976 by industrial music group and performance artists Throbbing Gristle. The group created the label primarily for self-releases but also signed several other groups and artists. The label gave a name to the industrial music genre." //// "Martin Denny's "Exotica Vol II" was in the collection of Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV's Genesis Breyer P-Orridge... Throbbing Gristle was very interested in Martin Denny's music, dedicating "20 Jazz Funk Greats" to Denny and referencing him on the track "Exotica." Throbbing Gristle, and later Psychic TV, played Martin Denny before concerts, and are said to have sampled Denny records throughout their oeuvre." //// "At the bottom of the liner notes for this album (written by Claude Bessy) was a line that read "this album is dedicated to Martin Denny"."    0:47:13 (Pop-up)
Fred Giannelli  Mr. Denny   Favoriting Fred  Waxtrax  1991  A tribute to Martin Denny, the "father of exotica", from an industrial artist on Wax Trax records? Yup. Yup, that happened. Fred Giannelli (born 1960 in Lowell, Massachusetts) is an American electronic musician. He began experimenting with electronics in the 1970s as Turning Shrines. In 1984, Giannelli met Psychic TV's Genesis P. Orridge while the group was in Boston for a gig. This led to Giannelli eventually travelling to London to join the band in 1988, arriving just in time for the acid house craze. He then left Psychic TV for the Plus 8 label, working with Detroit DJ and producer Richie Hawtin as Spawn. Continuing under the Plus 8 label, he formed the Telepathic label for his own industrial/techno recordings as the Acid Didj, Giannelli, Deneuve and Mazdaratti. The 1990s saw him release a number of records, including 1997's Unpopular Science under the alias of the Kooky Scientist. //// Past projects and aliases include the Kooky Scientist, Acid Didj, The Kinky Scientist, Deneuve, The Kranky Scientist, Mazdaratti, PTV, Sickmob, Splerge, Fred vom Jupiter, Fred vs. Fred, Fred Ex, Spawn (with Richie Hawtin and Daniel Bell) and Turning Shrines.    0:50:06 (Pop-up)
Pailhead  I Will Refuse   Favoriting Trait (Deluxe Version)  Cleopatra Records  1998 / 2022  "Pailhead was a short-lived side project of Al Jourgensen of Ministry that featured Dischord Records founder and former Minor Threat frontman Ian MacKaye on vocals. The band's sound was a combination of industrial beats and hardcore punk, presaging what Ministry would later do with Jello Biafra in another side project, Lard. //// While Alain Jourgensen was living in London, he met Ian MacKaye. MacKaye had been in Washington D.C. punk bands The Teen Idles, Minor Threat, Skewbald/Grand Union, Egg Hunt and Embrace and was on the verge of forming Fugazi, while Jourgensen was taking his band Ministry into new territory—away from the more pop sound of With Sympathy and toward the harder sound of The Land of Rape and Honey. The two found common ground both musically and politically and decided to collaborate on a project that would fuse elements of industrial music with hardcore punk. //// Pailhead released the single "I Will Refuse" / "No Bunny" (released in both 7" and 12" formats) in 1987 and the 4-song EP Trait in 1988, both on the Wax Trax! record label." "Trait is the sole extended play by American industrial rock band Pailhead. The original EP was released in 1988, containing the first four songs in a slightly different order. When re-released on CD in the early 1990s, the group's first single ("I Will Refuse" b/w "No Bunny" 12") was added as a bonus. Recent reissues have added another 2 tracks to the release. //// Chris Connelly's first work with Jourgensen was to record vocals for the track that would later emerge as "I Will Refuse." Connelly released this version, which he called "Stick" and attributed to the Revolting Cocks, on his Initials C.C. album. In his memoirs, he says he was not offended when MacKaye rerecorded the vocals with new lyrics, saying "It was an honor to be erased by Ian.""    0:56:16 (Pop-up)
Lard  Forkboy   Favoriting The Last Temptation Of Reid  Alternative Tentacles  1990  Lard is an American hardcore punk/industrial band founded in 1988 as a side project by Jello Biafra (vocals; formerly of Dead Kennedys), Al Jourgensen (guitar; of Ministry), Paul Barker (bass; also of Ministry), and Jeff Ward (drums; once a Ministry touring member). Over the years, several other members of Ministry played with Lard, namely Bill Rieflin, Mike Scaccia, and Rey Washam. //// Like most of Biafra's work, Lard's songs are angrily political (the War on Drugs is a particularly common theme) but often have a tinge of humor. //// Lard has not officially toured and has only performed live a handful of times, mostly around the San Francisco area (where Jello lives and operates his Alternative Tentacles record label). The band played during Ministry's 1988 tour and throughout their 1989–1990 dates, once in Chicago after wrapping the recording of The Last Temptation of Reid, once at the conclusion of a Ministry concert in Los Angeles (March 24, 2003), and at the San Francisco (September 26, 2004), Portland (September 28, 2004) and Seattle (September 29, 2004) dates of Ministry's Evil Doer tour. Because its key members are active with other projects, it is unlikely that the band will tour. //// According to a 2020 interview Jourgensen said that he and Biafra plan to make a brand new Lard album soon with them emailing songs back and forth."    1:00:38 (Pop-up)
Fatima Mansions  Stigmata   Favoriting Tíma Mansió Dumps The Dead  Radioactive  1992  " The Fatima Mansions were a rock group formed in 1988 by Cork singer/keyboardist Cathal Coughlan, formerly of Microdisney." Of course, this is a cover of Ministry.    1:04:31 (Pop-up)
D.O.S.E Featuring Mark E. Smith  Plug Myself In (12" 2 Pointblanc Intensive Care Mix)   Favoriting D.O.S.E Featuring Mark E. Smith – Plug Myself In (The Spoonful Of Sugar Mixes)  PWL  1996  Arguably the closest Mark E. Smith got to an industrial mix, therefore I am expected to play it. Technically, the original track was more breakbeat than anything else, but this particular mix has a fair amount of crossover w/ industrial. This was a single that came out prior to the Levitate album, in collaboration with D.O.S.E, the project of Simon Spencer (who also went under the alias Dodo Bassburger.) He collaborated w/ the Fall briefly on 1997's Levitate; originally slated to produce the entirety of the album before falling out with Mark E. Smith and only finishing two. Smith was quick to pen a song titled "Spencer Must Die" for the final product. Tragically Simon Spencer did die, in 2003, "after inhaling his own vomit at the Glastonbury Festival."    1:07:42 (Pop-up)
Pigface  Kiss King (Saint James Mix)   Favoriting Below The Belt  Invisible Records  1998  The project of Martin Atkins, who has enlisted literally hundreds of collaborators to bring this project to fruition. Many Pigface songs start with his work alone, but through the years, Pigface has become a who's who of the industrial world & beyond. This remix is by James Galus, manager for the band Mindless Self Indulgence. The vocals on this track (and the remix) are from Mary Dee Reynolds, who was the frontwoman of Chainsuck. Next time you're in Chicago (if you're not already), don't forget to visit Martin Atkins' Museum of Post Punk & Industrial Music.    1:12:29 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Fred Giannelli 

Macadamian Mix   Favoriting

Fred 

Waxtrax 

1991 

A remix of the song that is a tribute to Martin Denny, the "father of exotica" from an industrial artist on Wax Trax records? With a guiro? Yup. Yup, that happened. Listed simply as "Macadamian Mix" on the release, this is a remix of "Mr. Denny". //// On that topic: "Martin Denny (April 10, 1911 – March 2, 2005) was an American pianist, composer, and arranger. Known as the "father of exotica," he was a multi-instrumentalist and could play a number of percussion instruments. In a long career that saw him performing up to 3 weeks prior to his death, he toured the world popularizing his brand of lounge music which included exotic percussion, imaginative rearrangements of popular songs, and original songs that celebrated Tiki culture." //// And from the desk of Fred Giannelli in 2005: "LETTER: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:40:53 -0500 //// FROM: FRED //// TO: THE MEMBERS OF THROBBING GRISTLE //// I'm sure you all have heard of Mr. Martin Denny's recent passing. I just thought I would retell the story that I documented on my Wax Trax CD for you all since you all were the reason he wrote to me. //// MR. DENNY(MACADAMIAN MIX) //// (Unbeknownst to me, in 1989, Genesis P-Orridge sent a record I made with his daugher Caresse P-Orridge called, "R.U. Xperienced?" to Mr. Martin Denny. This is what happened.) //// Attached is a foto of what he sent me which reads as follows: August 1, 1989 Turning Shrines P.O.Box 337 Boston, MA 02180 //// Dear Sirs, Just recently I received a LP addressed to me from Brighton England entitled "R.U. Xperienced?" I am curious as to who may have sent it to me. Is it for real or a put on ? I have not been able to detirmine (sic) which. It's so far out and I'm inclined to think someone was on a heavy trip when it was recorded. //// A few years ago I received another LP made in England titled "Throbbing Gristle's" Greatest Hits. It was put out by Industrial Record's, London. At the bottom of the liner notes written by a Claude Bessy was a line that read "this album is dedicated to Martin Denny". Have you ever heard of this record? At the bottom of the LP jacket cover the slogan read: Entertainment through Pain" . There is a reference to a P Orridge which is also mentioned in the R.U. Xperienced LP. //// Could you clear up this mystery to me. I do have a sense of humor. However both these recordings leaves me incredulous that someone would go to the expense of producing both of these records or is it intended to be a shocker? //// I would appreciate a reply. Sincerely, Martin Denny //// Included was a photocopy of the back of the TG greatest hits sleeve. //// So about a year later I was working on my solo Wax Trax project and I called Mr. Denny and I tell him I received his letter and I'm getting back to him and he replies, " It took you a year to respond to me !!!!" I excused myself and explained that I had been on tour a lot and living in England and that I'm working on a song about this now and that I was taping the conversation, (which I don't think really registered with him). So we began talking about Throbbing Gristle and we had a funny, pleasant chat which I sampled quite a bit of and used on my song. He provided such concise sound bites. //// He did have a funny anecdote about when he started his career people in LA were making fun of his records and one time he heard a radio dj announce that he had a new record by Martin Denny and he played this horribly out of tune piss take on him. So he went out looking for the actual record and he found it and the cover was a close up of 2 hands on a piano keyboard. But if you looked closely, they were 2 left hands.//// When my Fred CD came out I sent him a copy but I never heard back from him. Maybe he didn't have a CD player ? //// telepathic regards, ƒ®ed" 

 

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George Westerholm & The Wild Wildcats  Graydon Hall By The Highway   Favoriting Graydon Hall By The Highway Single  George Westerholm  2023  A little bit of Canadian tiki fare to kick off the set! George tells us he wrote this during the pandemic but upon request, finished it for tonight's episode for you all to enjoy! Graydon, sometimes referred to as Graydon Hall, is a neighbourhood in the city of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. It is located just south of Ontario Highway 401, West of a nearby neighborhood called Parkwoods, North of York Mills Road and west of the Don Valley Parkway.  *   1:36:59 (Pop-up)
The Shadows  Kon-Tiki   Favoriting Kon-Tiki 7"  Columbia  1961  The Shadows (originally known as the Drifters) were an English instrumental rock group, who dominated the British popular music charts in the late 1950s and early 1960s, in the pre-Beatles era. They served as the backing band for Cliff Richard from 1958 to 1968, and have joined him for several reunion tours. The Shadows have had 69 UK chart singles from the 1950s to the 2000s, 35 credited to the Shadows and 34 to Cliff Richard and the Shadows. The group, who were in the forefront of the UK beat-group boom,were the first backing band to emerge as stars.    1:38:50 (Pop-up)
La Máquina Del Sonido  Fuego   Favoriting Fuego / In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida 7"  CBS  1969  The brainchild of Ernesto De Léon not much is known about this Mexican garage rock outfit. This is a cover of 'Fire" originally written by Arthur Brown, Vincent Crane, Mike Finesilver and Peter Ker in 1968. The song's lyrics are sung from the perspective of a self-proclaimed "god of Hellfire," destroying, with tremendous glee, everything that his victims have built up over their lives. This version slaps even hard than the original, some would say! Perfect for enjoying a flaming volcano tiki cocktail!    1:40:46 (Pop-up)
Meridian Brothers  Cumbia Del Pichamán   Favoriting Cumbia Siglio XXI  Bongo Joe  2020  Columbia's Meridian Brothers are always pushing boundaries of Cumbia..on this album using electronic and modern instrumentation and interpretation...and this version of "Son of a Preacher Man" is delightfully woozy. It recreates the feeling you get after a night of imbibing in far too many Painkillers, Daiquiris and Mai Tai cocktails    1:43:41 (Pop-up)
Yma Sumac  Taki-Rari   Favoriting Mambo!  Capitol Records  1954  One of the greatest voices of the 20th century, Yma Sumac eschewed traditional opera to create absolutely SLAMMING performances of exotica...for which she was named as "The Queen of Exotica" Sumac could emit notes from above a coloratura soprano to the low notes of a bass and had one of the widest vocal ranges. She was able to emit notes from the tessitura of sopranino, soprano, mezzo-soprano, contralto, tenor, baritone and bass, and was the only person able to do the triple coloratura or the trill of the birds. Her singing voice ranged from B2 to G♯7.    1:46:58 (Pop-up)
Harry Belafonte  Coconut Woman   Favoriting Belafonte Sings of The Caribbean  Sony Music  1957  From the Queen of Exotica, we go to the King of Calypso...He earned his career breakthrough with the album Calypso (1956), which was the first million-selling LP by a single artist and is one of the few performers to win an Oscar, a Grammy, and Emmy and a Tony award. Born in New York to Jamaican parents, he not ony was a musician but a human rights activist, working side by side with MLK and supporting his family. His legacy will live on forever, and he will be sadly missed. Belafonte passed away April 25th at the age of 96.    1:48:46 (Pop-up)
Andy Cummings & Hawaiian Serenaders  Coconut Island   Favoriting Andy Cummings & His Hawaiian Serenaders  HanaOla Records  2004  Andrew Kealoha Cummings was born on August 2, 1913 in Honolulu, and we lost him at the age of 81 on June 23, 1995. Andy Cummings, the composer of the classic song, “Waikiki”, dedicated his life to sharing the beauty of Hawaii with the world. His music is especially dreamy and absolutely the quintessential essence of what we love about Hawaiian luau music...    1:52:10 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
The Surfmen 

Bali Hai   Favoriting

The Sounds of Exotic Island 

Countdown Music 

1960 

 

 

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Music behind DJ:
Mr Ho's Orchestrotica 

Terre Exotique   Favoriting

Third River Rangoon 

Mr. Ho's Orchestrotica 

2011 

 

 

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Leonard Nimoy  Spock Thoughts   Favoriting The Two Sides of Leonard Nimoy  Dot Records  1967  The album is a continuation of the "Spock and Space" sound on which Nimoy embarked on his debut album. Side one showcases the side fans know as Mr. Spock but in a softer light, along with his struggle between being human and Vulcan. While perhaps not obvious "tiki"...there is something oh so calming and chill about Spock ruminating and offering..arguably sold...life advice over gentle exotica grooves!    2:02:39 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Sounds Of The Ocean 

Beach Sounds   Favoriting

Ocean Sounds 

Sounds Of The Ocean 

2016 

 

 

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Listener comments!

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DJ Babs:

Hello and welcome pals! We will be starting the show shortly!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
Derek Westerholm:

Hey & 'lo!
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Scott_Oz:

G'day Babs, Derek & Beachers!
🌏☀️🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌊🏖️🏭
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm
ultradamno:

Babs! Derek! Beach Bums!
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DJ Babs:

Heya Scott!!
  8:01pm
Robm:

Hello fellow people of the beach
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Kristine:

helloo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm
ultradamno:

RIP MS. Interview with Brian Turner www.wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:02pm
DJ Babs:

Hello UD! Hello Rob! So great to see you all here tonight!
  8:03pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @8:02
So great to be here babs
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:04pm
DJ Babs:

It's a big night here on the Toronto beach...big hockey game a happening LOL
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:04pm
DJ Babs:

There will also be some abrasive...and soothing sounds!
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Kristine:

i am just now reading the description and Find for the radio show, 'at least one cantankerous singer', HA!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:04pm
Derek Westerholm:

Hello Scott, Hello Ultra, Hello Robm, Hello Kristine! Hello hello hello!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:05pm
Derek Westerholm:

↳ Kristine @8:04
Haha!
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Kristine:

I have a bad cold and chills..so will be in and out!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:06pm
Derek Westerholm:

↳ Kristine @8:05
Oh Kristine, drag... Heal up!
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Kristine:

and HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY Babs! I hope you had a great birthday
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:06pm
DJ Babs:

Hi Kristine! Sorry to hear you are under the weather!
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ultradamno:

The Mark Stewart dance twitter.com...
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DJ Babs:

Aww thanks Kristine! It was awesome, probably the most fun I’ve ever had for birthdays!
  8:07pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @8:04
So i guess you might be distracted at times
  8:07pm
Robm:

↳ Derek Westerholm @8:04
Howdy Derek
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DJ Babs:

↳ ultradamno @8:06
That was a very good dance he did. Such a shame…too many people are passing away too young!
  8:08pm
Robm:

↳ Kristine @8:05
Hopefully you will feel better soon
  🏝 8:08pm
Kristine:

↳ Robm @8:08
thank you!
  8:08pm
Robm:

↳ Kristine @8:08
Your welcome
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DJ Babs:

Other than spring colds everyone doing ok?
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ultradamno:

The first dance that comes to mind for Harry Belafonte is levitating Winona Ryder, but RIP for him to...day'o!
  8:11pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @8:09
Babs so far so good, might get distracted by the NFL draft tonight
@Ultradamno I have given up on twitter, it is turning into a dumpster fire
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ultradamno:

Yeah, that's why I'm not giving up on it. Dumpsters not on fire are boring
  8:13pm
Robm:

↳ ultradamno @8:12
Yeah but i am not holding my breath that elon will get his shit together
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ultradamno:

I did also post it at Mastodon, the very definition of a dumpster not on fire. A nice quiet place where you can think without anyone ever bothering you. mastodon.social...
  8:16pm
Robm:

↳ ultradamno @8:14
WFMU is the extent of my social media
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ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Schmertzen Hoeren" by "Einstürzende Neubauten"
My favorite EN album
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DJ Babs:

NFL! We do CFL here...but also some NFL. That's Derek's thing. So is Hockey I'm just along for the ride lol
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DJ Babs:

↳ Robm @8:16
this is good social media!!!
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ultradamno:

Battlebots is the extent of my sports interest...and I put it on hold to be here.
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DJ Babs:

Kristine this is great music to be sick to LOL
  8:21pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @8:19
Babs i know people on the accu are nicer and I feel like i get an education when i am on here
BTW love the CFL, it can get wild at times
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ultradamno:

This isn't really social media. It's the kind of message boards that existed before gifs and hashtags.
  8:23pm
Robm:

↳ ultradamno @8:21
Since i am not on Facebook or twitter, I consider this social media, heck so does handy
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ultradamno:

(well, maybe not before gifs strictly speaking, but before they were a primary mode of communication)
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Mr Fab:

Hey all you post-punk Annette & Frankie’s!
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ultradamno:

↳ Robm @8:23
It's isn't. It's social, it isn't media (aside from what is commented on)
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ Mr Fab @8:23
Ha! Fantastic greeting Fab! Hello!
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Mr Fab:

↳ Song: "Faux" by "Two Lone Swordsmen"
If there’s two of them, then technically they’re not “lone”?

See, I think about stuff.
  8:25pm
Robm:

↳ ultradamno @8:24
Got me there
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ ultradamno @8:24
Media Social, then?
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laurapanic:

hey hey hi hi, bit late this early start at the beach for me is hard!
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laurapanic:

this playlist is my 1991 sharehouse 100%
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ Mr Fab @8:24
You have raised a good point. Unless they don't know each other.
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Derek Westerholm:

Hello Laura! Welcome to the 90's!
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DJ Babs:

↳ laurapanic @8:26
YAY! Glad you like it Laura!
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DJ Babs:

↳ Mr Fab @8:24
You raise an excellent point Fab. Andrew Weatherall is now deceased so indeed it is one lone swordsman now....
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Derek Westerholm:

And 80's, I guess, really.
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ultradamno:

↳ Mr Fab @8:24
Have you ever seen the clip of Mark Wahlberg being interviewed about his part as the titular character in the movie Lone Survivor where he's asked if he talked to any of the other actual people from the platoon?
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DJ Babs:

↳ Mr Fab @8:23
We really are the post punk annette and Frankie LOL
  8:29pm
Robm:

Hey laura how are things in the land down under?
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ultradamno:

Well, maybe if the two lone swordsmen never meet...
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DJ Babs:

Skinny Puppy were so great to see last night! It's so funny how terrifying this music seemed when I was young and now...it just sounds like pop music to me LOL
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laurapanic:

↳ Robm @8:29
Cool with blue skies in my part of it. Slipping into friday industrially.
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laurapanic:

↳ DJ Babs @8:30
oh wow!!!!
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DJ Babs:

↳ laurapanic @8:30
Looking forward to Friday here!!!
  8:32pm
Robm:

↳ laurapanic @8:30
Good here in north Jersey it’s gonna rain
  8:36pm
gsdoubleu:

loving this tune!
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DJ Babs:

That MADMADMAD is so good! This also brings me SO MUCH JOY
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DJ Babs:

Hello GS!
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ultradamno:

New Protomartyr video dropped, btw twitter.com...
  8:37pm
gsdoubleu:

hello! tequila meets popcorn!
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ gsdoubleu @8:37
GSuu, 100%!
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Mr Fab:

↳ DJ Babs @8:30
Ha, so true.

But gotta say, those golden Ministry oldies
still kick all kinds of butt.
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ultradamno:

In a recent interview JG Thirlwell said he doesn't use the 'I' word.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @8:45
This one www.noisextra.com...
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DJ Babs:

↳ ultradamno @8:37
Excellent Gotta check that video for sure!
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ultradamno:

That sounds like an overreaction on BB's part, but better than hassling waiters.
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DJ Babs:

Hello Helloo GS!!!
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DJ Babs:

↳ ultradamno @8:45
I agree...I think Industrial music is...to broad of a catchall and this is coming from someone who dislikes microgenres and all that nonsense...lol
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Scott_Oz:

Gets my gristle throbbing!
🍻😎🤙
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ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Exotica" by "Throbbing Gristle"
Martin Denny interview twitter.com...
  8:50pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @8:48
Babs all i know is that you won’t hear this kind of music on commercial music radio with it’s mindless bullshit
Hey scott
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DJ Babs:

Haha! This record is one of those records they say people own but never actually listen to…but I do!
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DJ Babs:

↳ Robm @8:50
This is true you won’t hear this stuff on the radio. I have to be honest I haven’t listened to commercial radio in a very very long time!
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DJ Babs:

I love that this song is an actual tribute to Martin Denny! Derek in point with his industrialtiki
  8:53pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @8:51
If i am not listening to this station, i listen to a station called radio paradise out if california, great internet radio station
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ultradamno:

KBOO is good, so is SOMA. I listen to Zoviet France's show every week in podcast form zovietfrance.podbean.com

Robin Crutchfield has a show on Luxuria, I think it's available in podform too.
  🏝 8:58pm
Kristine:

oh this is great!
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ Kristine @8:58
It's pretty wild!
  9:00pm
Robm:

↳ ultradamno @8:57
Listen to kboo sometimes, will try that show
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DJ Babs:

I do always love anything Jello Biafra does....
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DJ Babs:

↳ Robm @9:00
KBOO also has the cutest station ID lol
  9:06pm
Robm:

↳ DJ Babs @9:03
Thanks
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Derek Westerholm:

On quite the Ministry & related/assorted tangent tonight...
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DJ Babs:

Yes agreed! There was a great bar called Gord's Place at one of our smaller college towns that played all this stuff it was such a good place to hang! Sadly now closed. :-(
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Rich in Kitchenton:

Really diggin' the Al/RevCo, etc thing you've got going on.
  🏝 9:08pm
Kristine:

yaaaaas
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DJ Babs:

Yay! Thanks and welcome Rich! Yes we love this stuffs too...and now for your obligatory Fall and Fall adjacent programming LOL
  9:09pm
DJ Nico:

Howdy!
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Rich in Kitchenton:

<back to cooking/listening>
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ DJ Babs @9:08
Ha!
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DJ Babs:

Hello hello Nico! Welcome to our Industrial Tiki party LOL
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Derek Westerholm:

Hello Rich!
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Derek Westerholm:

Hello Nico!
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DJ Babs:

Happy Cheffing Rich! Let us know what's for dinner when you have a chance! We had lasagna tonight SO GOOD
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laurapanic:

↳ ultradamno @8:45
jesus h Christ I just had to leave my desk and I goddamned missed FORKBOY
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Rich in Kitchenton:

also bought some kickin' new stereo speakers for my pad so giving them a workout right now.
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DJ Babs:

↳ laurapanic @9:10
awww bummer sorry Laura!!!
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laurapanic:

↳ laurapanic @9:10
SORRY that was meant to be a general comment but was somehow directed to UltraD. I am sure they are interested anyhow
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laurapanic:

↳ DJ Babs @9:11
just play it again OK? Or back it up with I AM YOUR CLOCK
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DJ Babs:

↳ Rich in Kitchenton @9:10
Oh Sweet Rich! Kitchen speakers are a MUST HAVE
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ laurapanic @9:11
Good call, but moving on... Archives are waiting for you, then... Haha... Unless we go an extra 55mins playing Lard past 10:05...
  9:15pm
DJ Nico:

Tiki goth!
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DJ Babs:

Legit! The tiki bar is calling us on gentle breezes!!! lol
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DJ Babs:

We had such a great time at the tiki bar last week. I basically want to live at the tiki bar. I need a flaming volcano drink EVERY week!
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Mr Fab:

↳ DJ Nico @9:15
Lush, tropical…darkness.
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ultradamno:

Tomorrow is Carolyn Jones' birthday, I'm pretty sure I've seen Morticia hula
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Mr Fab:

↳ DJ Babs @9:16
Where did you go?
  9:19pm
Robm:

↳ ultradamno @9:17
That would be interesting
  9:21pm
gsdoubleu:

↳ DJ Babs @9:16
fire drinks rule!
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @9:17
I'd say this is close enough 64.media.tumblr.com...
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DJ Babs:

↳ Mr Fab @9:17
We went to a place called the Shameful Tiki. It was SO well done. No half assed tiki bullshit, it was full on. I am now obsessed with obtaining a puffer fish lamp.
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DJ Babs:

www.ebay.ca...
  9:24pm
Androu B.:

Hi, DJ Babs & Derek!

I should be kicking myself for missing out on the start of this! Industrial was all I was listening to thoughout the 90's & the early 00's. I'm well acquainted with all the acts you've played tonight so far, sio this for me is a thrilling flashback to a time when I sauntered throough cutout bins at local independent record shops for eerything & anything industrial. Still have a bunch of Wax Trax, Invisible, Metropolis & Cleopatra material lying round in one corner of my bedroom and in the basement.
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ultradamno:

Tiki decor is cool because you can use a lot of seafoam outside of a bathroom without it being questioned
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ultradamno:

Speaking of TG twitter.com...
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DJ Babs:

↳ Androu B. @9:24
Hi Androu! We will get the show up in the archives asap so you can enjoy!!!
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DJ Babs:

↳ ultradamno @9:24
We have a serious amount of Velvet paintings here at home. In fact, we have no more wallspace, lol.
  9:28pm
Androu B.:

↳ DJ Babs @9:26
That's one thing I can always count on, thanks!
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DJ Babs:

Happy to have you with us tonight! :-)
  9:32pm
Androu B.:

↳ DJ Babs @9:28
In the event you should run overtime, I'll be ready at the record button on my VLC player (which is what I use to listen to all the WFMU streams)!
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ultradamno:

More evidence MES had supernatural gifs? (I know he had implied Disney's Dream Debased foresaw a roller coaster disaster or something)
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ultradamno:

In John French's book (Beefheart: Through The Eyes Of Magic), he pretty much outright states Don Van Vliet beset him with a demon to control him.
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ultradamno:

Speaking of surf, Messer Chups Euro tour dates www.facebook.com...
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Mr Fab:

↳ DJ Babs @9:22
Were they playing proper music? I do not understand why tiki bars would play the same old crap as every place else, but it does happen.
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DJ Babs:

Yes they were! The music was excellent!!!
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DJ Babs:

In fact they played this!
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DJ Babs:

I love this song so much. Meridian Brothers make so happy!
  9:45pm
gsdoubleu:

this is amazing
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ultradamno:

The irresistible loving of preacherman sons is how they get you into the cult...
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DJ Babs:

↳ gsdoubleu @9:45
I want to play ALL the Meridian Brothers. This is a bonkers version!
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DJ Babs:

Also I am the OG coconut woman lol
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ ultradamno @9:33
Ultra, according to Brix E Smith... "I believe that Mark is a psychic. He’s written songs about things that came to pass later. I'm quite a spiritual person. I also believe that I’m a psychic. I believe that he and I connect on multi levels. I believe that everything is vibrational based. We could talk about that all day. I hear things in my head. I’m not nuts. Maybe I am nuts. (Laughs). Where does inspiration come from? You tell me. I hear in my head this song is called ‘Terry Waite Sez’. I hand the song to Mark. I tell him it HAS to be called ‘Terry Waite Sez’. At this point Terry Waite was the envoy to the Archbishop of Canterbury. We record the song. He ends up getting kidnapped. The song is released. Then his family call Beggars Banquet record company. They believe there might be clues in the lyrics as to where he’s being held. That was one instance but there were many more."
  9:51pm
Androu B.:

↳ Song: "Coconut Woman" by "Harry Belafonte"
RIP HB...Not just a talented man, but also an outspoken advocate for human rights.
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ultradamno:

I've read that before, maybe along side the DDD thing, maybe in The Fallen...
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ Androu B. @9:51
A true loss. Though thankfully a full life lived.
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ultradamno:

I heard a character on a TV show the other night say he drank a whole bottle of coconut water and then experience an extreme laxative result
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DJ Babs:

↳ Androu B. @9:51
Agreed..he was an incredible man!
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DJ Babs:

Coconut water is also packed with electrolytes and amazing for hangovers!!!
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ultradamno:

Might have been Awkwafina's show
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ ultradamno @9:52
Was this in the context of a fiction or a biopic?
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ultradamno:

↳ Derek Westerholm @9:54
Comedy, I think
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ ultradamno @9:54
Makes sense. Though I like the "I think" qualifier.
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laurapanic:

↳ Derek Westerholm @9:14
Picking up the Brix mention.....I have been enjoying her LP done with Marty Wilson-Piper (The Church). That is all.
  9:55pm
Androu B.:

↳ DJ Babs @9:53
Tim Burton must've been a fan as well, since he threw in two of his songs for the soundtrack of Beetlejuice.
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ultradamno:

I've used coconut oil for popcorn and find it to be kind of a pain in the ass in contrast to peanut oil.
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ laurapanic @9:55
I've been meaning to get to that... Only became aware of it in the past few weeks...
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ultradamno:

Though apparently there's a basis in fact www.healthline.com...
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Scott_Oz:

Thanks Babs & Derek! A great musical journey to the industrial zone & back to the relaxed calm of the beach.
🌏☀️🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌺🌊🏖️🌴🦜
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ ultradamno @9:56
Seems so... Good share!
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ Scott_Oz @9:57
Thanks Scott, lovely to see you on the sands, as always!
  10:02pm
gsdoubleu:

long pause.... "I was surprised it made sense somehow" hahaha
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ultradamno:

Well, GOP said Denny was the original industrial music.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @10:02
Argh, GPO...NOT the GOP!!!!
  10:03pm
gsdoubleu:

Thank you for another great show!
  10:03pm
Androu B.:

↳ Scott_Oz @9:57
Thanks, Babs! Thanks Derek! Best show ever tonight!
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DJ Babs:

Thank you thank you!!! Have a great night everyone! We will see you next week! :-)
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Derek Westerholm:

Thank-you all! It was quite the excursion!!
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ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Spock Thoughts" by "Leonard Nimoy"
Does he say anything about not freaking out during Vulcan mating season?
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ ultradamno @10:05
Possibly on the flipside...
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Mr Fab:

Thank you! that last set of playing actual beachy songs on “Echo Beach“ was an unexpected, utterly delightful treat.
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Derek Westerholm:

↳ Mr Fab @10:06
Glad you enjoyed, Fab! Yes, sometimes we actually get beachy!
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