WFMU: Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from February 6, 2024

Listener comments!
	🎸 ♥ 7:41pm Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	♥ 8:50pm Imaginos: Ahoy!
	8:58pm Mr. X: Sitting quietly at my desk, waiting for today's lesson.
	🎸 ♥ 9:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @8:50 Thanks for joining tonight!
	🎸 ♥ 9:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @8:58 You are always a good student!
	♥ 9:00pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:00 A pleasure as always
	9:00pm ramencity: huloooo
	🎸 ♥ 9:01pm Aitch: ↳ Song: "Do The Pop" by "Radio Birdman" Birdmannnnnnnnnn!
	🎸 ♥ 9:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:00 Tonight's Cohost!
	🎸 ♥ 9:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:01 Hell yeah!
	9:02pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:01 The cohost with the comost.
	♥ 9:02pm Imaginos: Had a very good day and this show just made it better
	9:02pm BC Sterrett: Have a great show Austin!
	9:03pm ramencity: getcha dancin shoes on
	🎸 ♥ 9:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ BC Sterrett @9:02 Thanks BC! And thank you for the excellent show yourself! I do love when BC comes to town.
	♥ 9:04pm Rory: I’m here for the punk!
	🎸 ♥ 9:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @9:04 We shall deliver! And: thanks for droppin' by!
	9:08pm Mr Fab: Austin! Aargh, seeing all those gig flyers still makes me cringe. I threw out my collection when I moved out of mom's house. After all, who's gonna care about a bunch of ads for some old LA punk bands..?
	🎸 ♥ 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:08 Oh, that's heartbreaking! I certainly threw out a bunch that I regret now. But I still have a lot that are now in huge folders, for safe keeping.
	♥ 9:09pm Imaginos: Punk has a way of being dark and fun at the same time
	9:12pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Do The Orbit" by "Skoings" I spy a Sheena's DJ on the album sleeve...
	9:15pm ramencity: ↳ Mr Fab @9:12 ooooh
	9:18pm Mr Fab: Ha, yep, Germs pictured middle right. Kitten Bolles in the shades, far right.
	🎸 ♥ 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:09 I think that's the charm for me.
	♥ 9:20pm Imaginos: What we need are more punk sea shanties
	🎸 ♥ 9:20pm Austin Rich: Here's the blog that hosts this 100 disc compilation, and a bunch of other punk comps and singles, that is well worth pillaging. But: beware the meta-data. 'tis inaccurate, at best. disorderareyouexperienced.blogspot.com
	🎸 ♥ 9:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:20 Pirate Punks probably exists. I need to investigate...
	9:23pm Mr. X: ↳ Imaginos @9:20 Sex Pistols covered Friggin' in the Riggin', if that helps.
	♥ 9:23pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:23 Will have to check it out
	🎸 ♥ 9:24pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Do The Pogo" by "Crime" NOT the Crime from San Francisco. Or the Crime from the UK.
	9:24pm ramencity: I always wanted to write a musical called The Pirates of Mens' Pants
	🎸 ♥ 9:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:24 Are they searching for Mens Pants? Or are they wearing Mens Pants?
	9:25pm ramencity: ↳ Austin Rich @9:25 Neither!
	♥ 9:25pm Imaginos: ↳ ramencity @9:24 Sounds like fun. Try Trelby for the script
	♥ 9:27pm Imaginos: ?! II came out before I?
	🎸 ♥ 9:28pm coelacanth∅: greetings Austin and mutants
	♥ 9:28pm Imaginos: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:28 Ahoy!
	🎸 ♥ 9:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:28 Ahhhh, coelacanthø! Hooray!
	🎸 ♥ 9:29pm coelacanth∅: aloha Imaginos!
	9:30pm ramencity: ↳ Imaginos @9:27 probably a timeslip
	🎸 ♥ 9:31pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Do the Standing Still" by "Table" i used to try to do this dance at punk shows... i'd always catch my foot disobeying
	♥ 9:33pm Imaginos: Excellent music
	9:34pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Do the Standing Still" by "Table" I have this track on a playlist I put together called "Do The Failed Dance Craze." Songs going back to the early '60s at least.
	♥ 9:34pm Imaginos: Starlight Oysters
	♥ 9:38pm Imaginos: Jump stomp pump and romp!
	🎸 ♥ 9:38pm coelacanth∅: greetings ramencity kid
	🎸 ♥ 9:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:38 It's the only way to dance!
	9:38pm ramencity: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:38 merci Ceolocanthø!
	9:39pm ramencity: ↳ Mr Fab @9:34 ooh so many - I hope that playlist is 'out there' somewhere... "Do the Popeye" was the first Eddie Bo record I ever got..
	9:40pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "She Told Me About Leeds Permanent Building Societ... Crass meets Plastic People of the Universe in France.
	🎸 ♥ 9:41pm coelacanth∅: i always wondered what "do the hansa" was about...
	🎸 ♥ 9:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:40 Ha! That's fantastic.
	9:42pm Dean: Holy crap, what have I missed?! Saw the Controllers ages ago, and later The Gears played my high school after I'd graduated. A friend of mine was, long ago, Kid Spike's girlfriend. And Crime, what an amazing live band. As were Radio Birdman.
	9:43pm Dean: Still have that Controllers single.
	♥ 9:43pm Rory: ↳ Song: "She Told Me About Leeds Permanent Building Societ... So many weird punk bands 79-81
	🎸 ♥ 9:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @9:42 Damn! I only know OF the Controllers. Very cool. Hopefully our set it delivering tonight, Dean! Being young is sort of dumb, sometimes. You miss all the cool stuff. I think I have a Controllers re-issue single, somewhere.
	9:44pm ramencity: ↳ Dean @9:43 nice! keep ahold of that puppy!
	🎸 ♥ 9:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @9:43 That's what we like here!
	9:46pm ramencity: I just realized Malaria! weren't anywhere on those comps, seems like a strange omission
	9:46pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Hit Girls" by "Ama-Dots" Memphis got moved from the South to the Midwest?! I know, this compiler is European, can't expect them to know all the regions.
	🎸 ♥ 9:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:46 I think you could easily do at least five volumes of "omissions."
	🎸 ♥ 9:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:46 Yeah, some of the ways they divide up the US is funny. But he probably does as good / better than some US citizens.
	9:48pm ramencity: Pshhh, Memphis is in Egypt...
	9:48pm Mr. X: I blame Mason & Dixon.
	9:48pm Mr Fab: The "New Flanland" show here on Sheena's did an all-Kleenex/Lilliput episode, feat. an interview with the author of a book about them. As femme post-punk goes, doesn't get much better than them.
	🎸 ♥ 9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:48 And the Thomas Pynchon novel by the same name, while we're at it.
	9:49pm ramencity: ↳ Mr Fab @9:48 ooh! I just recently got that book, haven't had a chance to read it yet. I <3 me some kleenex
	♥ 9:49pm Rory: ↳ Mr Fab @9:48 Kleenex/Lilliput legends!
	🎸 ♥ 9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:48 Yeah, saw that in the archive, and I need to listen to it still.
	🎸 ♥ 9:49pm Aitch: Lots of sax in these old tracks, always thought sax was a weird fit with punk.
	🎸 ♥ 9:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:49 I always thought of it as a throw-back to 50's rock music, after all the excess of the late 60's / early '70's.
	9:51pm Mr Fab: ↳ Aitch @9:49 especially in New York. As Fear reminded us.
	🎸 ♥ 9:51pm Aitch: ↳ Austin Rich @9:50 Or learned it in school band and couldn't play anything else?
	♥ 9:52pm Imaginos: Wild show, but getting sleepy. Going to try to hang on a bit longer tho
	🎸 ♥ 9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:51 Mayhaps! I sort of regret ditching my trombone. I think I would actually want to play it well, now.
	🎸 ♥ 9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:52 I totally understand, as it is later for you. Have as much fun as you can, as we'll connect Thursday!
	9:52pm Mr Fab: ↳ Aitch @9:51 after post-punk, they all joined ska bands
	🎸 ♥ 9:53pm Aitch: ↳ Austin Rich @9:52 My friend Dunc plays trombone on the 1st Celebate Rifles album, of which he's very proud
	9:53pm Dean: Cool thing about the Controllers, acknowledged at the time, was that the drummer, Mad Dog Carla, was (and I hope still is) an African American female. I think we admired that nod to diversity in LA at the time, though she would be the person to state the facts.
	♥ 9:53pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:52 Definitely. Looking forward to our reading and recording.
	9:53pm Mr. X: i think John Lurie made it so the sax adds a kind of No Wave dimension to the punk songs that use it.
	9:54pm Dean: And Ted Milton of Blurt.
	9:54pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @9:53 oh no way! I have some albums by them, I will have to check which ones
	🎸 ♥ 9:55pm Aitch: ↳ ramencity @9:54 him and his brother were the horn section, same high school
	♥ 9:56pm Imaginos: Punk is so popular it has become a suffix.
	♥ 9:58pm Rory: Mutant Sounds! Miss them so much.
	9:58pm Dean: Punk, '76-'79 punk, was a sublime moment to be alive. I stood on Hollywood Blvd. at the time thinking, "This is an amazing convergence and commingling of creative ambitions and forces. Glad I'm here."
	🎸 ♥ 9:59pm Aitch: Australians are infectious, we spread out all over the place
	♥ 10:00pm Imaginos: ↳ Aitch @9:59 My mum was Australian
	♥ 10:01pm Imaginos: See you on Thursday, Austin
	🎸 ♥ 10:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @9:58 Certainly I'm a sucker for this kind of music, but it's all academic for me, unforunately. By the time I was able to go to shows and see a lot of bands - the mid-90's - punk had changed a lot. There were still great bands and shows, but it was old hat by then.
	10:03pm ramencity: ok the Celibate Rifles recs I have are: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and Roman Beach Party
	🎸 ♥ 10:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:01 Yes, I will! Take care.
	🎸 ♥ 10:07pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Class War" by "Plain Jane & The Jokes" A Dils cover! So great!
	10:07pm Mr Fab: ↳ Dean @9:58 i was young, barely a teen, and I can honestly say that it made me a music fan. Chanced upon Rodney on the ROQ, and was like: wow, this is NOT The Eagles, Barry Manilow, Van Halen, Captain and Tenille, this I like! If you weren't there it's hard to imagine what a shock to the culture it was. Like going from the Starland Vocal Band to Black Flag was just incredible.
	10:07pm ramencity: "On a clear day you can see the class war from up here..." - some Mike Leigh film
	10:08pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:07 And at so early a date, amazing!
	🎸 ♥ 10:09pm Austin Rich: As a kid in rural Ore-GUN, there was country music, hair metal, and... getting high? So certainly finding music that was interesting and you could sink your teeth into - and was from anywhere BUT rural Oregon - seemed imperative to me.
	🎸 ♥ 10:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:08 I'm such a sucker for those Dils songs. I really wish I could find those singles!
	10:13pm Mr Fab: You gotta read Kid Congo powers’ book. He talks about hitching a ride with the Dils to go up to San Francisco to see the Sex Pistols.
	🎸 ♥ 10:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:13 I have been wanting to read that! It has been recommended by a few folks.
	10:14pm Dean: Rodney on the ROQ was such an important catalyst. Truly, an impresario. I'm not sure, Austin, that your admiration is necessarily academic, for two reasons. First, one can connect quite intimately to artistic work produced beyond one's own time. Second, what's so bad about academic? It entails focused study and care. I had an opportunity to travel to SF for the vaunted Pistols show with Flipside, with whom I was working at the time. I declined, to my continuing regret.
	🎸 ♥ 10:22pm coelacanth∅: if i'd known about the sexpistols playing near me (but i was pretty young and usually not aware of ANY shows, let alone punk shows) i probably would've declined. i appreciated -to a slight degree- what they were going for; but musically it bored me for the most part. (except "pretty vacant")
	🎸 ♥ 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:14 I do love listening to old Rodney tapes. What a show! I do feel like I fourished best in college... when i was working at the radio station there! It all connects.
	10:24pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Observer" by "Stripes" This is "later was Nena of 99 Luftballons" group
	🎸 ♥ 10:24pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:22 It's funny how their reputation waxes and wanes. I feel like they had a better reputation when I was young, but these days, not so much. I'm sure it'll come back, and they'll be big again with the kids, and they they'll fade. Seems like a cycle with them.
	10:24pm Dean: I went to London in late '76. That's when I purchased the first Pistols' single, though not the A&M release!
	10:25pm Dean: The Pistols were, like all my children, perfect.
	🎸 ♥ 10:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:24 I'm not sure which I like better? They're both pretty good, for different reasons.
	🎸 ♥ 10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:24 I still want to go to the UK. My boss tells me that T. Rex singles are plentiful and cheap!
	🎸 ♥ 10:27pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:25 The guitar player in my first band, Cathead, was a big Pistols fan, and would collect all sorts of bootlegs and live albums. I still have a tape he made me, of his favorite Pistols stuff. I recall "Belsen Was A Gas" was pretty fantastic.
	🎸 ♥ 10:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Janitor" by "Suburban Lawns" xxx ooo = Suburban Lawns!
	10:28pm Mr. X: I'm a huge fan of Suburban Lawns.
	🎸 ♥ 10:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:28 What's not to love! They are pretty fun.
	🎸 ♥ 10:29pm Aitch: ↳ Song: "Janitor" by "Suburban Lawns" Hold my genitals?
	♥ 10:29pm Rory: Suburban Lawns!
	10:30pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:28 Took forever for their LP to be released on CD. I digitized mine years before it was officially on CD.
	🎸 ♥ 10:30pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @10:29 There's probably a little of each.
	10:30pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @10:29 Oh my janitor? Oh my genitals? something like that
	🎸 ♥ 10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:30 And now, there are things on CD that were never issued any other way. Oh, the ironies!
	10:31pm Mr. X: ↳ Aitch @10:29 Nice to know I'm not the only one who mis-hears the lyrics that way, LOL!
	🎸 ♥ 10:32pm Austin Rich: I know misheard lyrics books are big with pop songs, put I want to make a zine of misheard punk lyrics.
	10:34pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @10:31 No, not misheard. “Genitals” are in there. Along with “janitors.”
	10:35pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @10:34 Shocking!
	🎸 ♥ 10:38pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:24 probably diminished somewhat in recent years because johnny lydon opened his mouth, revealing what an idiot he is... but, although that was clear to me in my teens, in the 70s, it was the music itself that bored me then.
	🎸 ♥ 10:40pm coelacanth∅: s.i.b. from duty now for the future
	10:41pm Dean: Lydon took care of his ailing wife, who recently died. He is a smart, eccentric, talented guy. He might have been difficult and provocative, but he was masterfully so.
	🎸 ♥ 10:42pm Heather Z: Was going to confirm re Devo but now just here to say great stuff, Ramen City Kid and Austin! Been tuned in and enjoying everything I'm hearing!
	🎸 ♥ 10:43pm coelacanth∅: but i think duty now for the future , like the first devo album, is a world away from (and infinitely better than) all devo that came after.
	10:44pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr Fab @10:34 “Janitor” was such a big KROQ hit that Weird Al included it in his first polka medley. Don’t think the recording is available anywhere, but would love to be proven wrong.
	10:44pm Dean: I remember when Rodney played--for the first time in the USA, I think, or at least in California--the first Devo single. My buddy and I hit the record stores the next day and acquired our copies.
	10:45pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Cigarettes" by "Prag Vec" "...it's been like like this since we saw PragVEC at the Melkweg..."
	🎸 ♥ 10:45pm coelacanth∅: hi Heather!
	🎸 ♥ 10:45pm Aitch: My 75yr old bro-in-law is obsessed by half-man half biscuit???
	10:45pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @10:45 oooh is he on the biccies forum?
	🎸 ♥ 10:46pm Aitch: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:43 In recent DEVO show here they played mostly the earlier stuff, a lot off Duty Now, it was great
	🎸 ♥ 10:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @10:46 Devo put on such great shows! Seen 'em twice, which it had been more, but twice is pretty good!
	♥ 10:47pm Rory: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:43 Early Devo is the best
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm Aitch: ↳ ramencity @10:45 He's 75? He heard them somewhere and it stuck to him. But he did see Hendrix.
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:46 Omg I'd so love to see them. Haven't had a chance yet. Maybe some day?
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm coelacanth∅: that's great to hear! who knows, maybe i'd see them again... probably not. it wouldn't be 5 bucks, like last time!
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:44 I recall hearing Devo that wasn't, "Whip It," and realizing they were really good, and it wasn't just a gimmick. My mom gave me "Shout" because she didn't like it, and after that, I had to go and get the rest.
	🎸 ♥ 10:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Aitch @10:46 ^ Aitch
	10:48pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:47 I blame MTV.
	🎸 ♥ 10:49pm Aitch: ↳ Song: "My City of Sydney" by "XL Captris" A great place, you should all come visit!
	🎸 ♥ 10:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:48 It's funny, because I think Devo made videos well before MTV was a thing. And later, of course, MTV cops their style.
	🎸 ♥ 10:50pm Austin Rich: I would love to travel around Australia! Someday! Maybe I can do a music tour?
	10:51pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @10:49 I would love to someday, too...
	10:51pm Dean: A little more inside dirt: the family of the friend of mine who was Kid Spike's girlfriend hosted Devo when they arrived in LA. They stayed with her family. We're talking late '70s.
	🎸 ♥ 10:51pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:47 my mom wasn't too keen on devo either! -or most of what i listened to at that time.
	🎸 ♥ 10:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather Z @10:47 Hopefully soon! I think they are not young.
	10:52pm ramencity: ↳ Dean @10:51 wut. :mindblown:
	🎸 ♥ 10:52pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:48 In the 80s, a friend's mom canceled their cable because of the Whip It video! She did not approve. I didn't have cable at my house but remember seeing that vid at Heather Baker's house and I was so intrigued!
	🎸 ♥ 10:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:51 My mom and I have some common ground, but she doesn't really like punk / new wave stuff, and certainly not experimental music. But she does like psychedellic stuff. That's her scene. (That and blues music.)
	🎸 ♥ 10:53pm Heather Z: ↳ Dean @10:51 And.....? I bet they were nice. Were they nice?
	🎸 ♥ 10:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:52 Seriously. Dean is my new hero.
	🎸 ♥ 10:53pm coelacanth∅: that whip it video was hilarious!
	🎸 ♥ 10:54pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:53 I think Devo have the perfect balance of thoughtful and funny videos. I could watch those collections over and over again.
	🎸 ♥ 10:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:52 if my mom were to hear the range of music i like now, there'd be much more common ground; and much more absolute disgust!
	10:54pm Mr. X: ↳ Heather Z @10:52 Of all the things to object to on TV, she chose that? Some people....
	🎸 ♥ 10:54pm Austin Rich: We're gonna go long, folks. Hope you don't mind! Stick around, we've got one more set, at least!
	🎸 ♥ 10:55pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:51 They were grown ups when I was young and I am no longer young so yeah.... hopefully soon.
	♥ 10:56pm Rory: When I listened to Whip It it was a joke to me. Years later Iheard Mongoloid and Wiggly World I was blown away!
	🎸 ♥ 10:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:54 If there is a way, people will become incensed. People think of it as a challenge to find new ways to get upset about things.
	🎸 ♥ 10:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @10:56 Yeah, "Mongoloid," still feels pretty relevant.
	♥ 10:56pm Rory: Thanks for the show Austin Rich!
	🎸 ♥ 10:56pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:54 My mom also isn't known for choosing her battles. Or for approving of things. So I do get it. But yeahhh
	10:57pm Mr. X: At the R&R Hall of fame they have a special section on Akron & Cleveland bands, where they have Devo's energy domes on display.
	🎸 ♥ 10:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @10:56 You're welcome. Since no one is after, we'll go long.
	🎸 ♥ 10:58pm coelacanth∅: my mother was surely disturbed if she ever overheard "mongoloid" from my room -and for good reason.
	🎸 ♥ 10:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:57 I visited an LA friend I only knew from the interwaves, and they had an energy dome at their house, and it was all I could do to not wear it the whole time I was visiting. (This was pre-covid.)
	10:59pm Dean: I am not hero-worthy, but I am so grateful that I got to play in the midst of that brief network of talented, funky people. What a time it was.
	10:59pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:58 You would look good sporting one of those.
	🎸 ♥ 11:00pm coelacanth∅: so who's voice is dissing the stupid term,"punk rock" - Kurt Cobain?
	11:01pm Mr. X: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:00 Some kid interviewed on Decline and Fall of Western Civilization.
	🎸 ♥ 11:01pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:59 Seconded! It's time to get one!
	🎸 ♥ 11:05pm Aitch: Peel session Half Man HB. www.youtube.com...
	🎸 ♥ 11:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @11:05 Need to bookmark that!
	11:07pm Mr. X: John Peel could be the subject of a whole series of shows here.
	11:07pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @11:05 "There's gonna be a riot down in Trumpton tonight!" - I should get that Brian Cant dvd box set...
	🎸 ♥ 11:07pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:07 You took the words right out of my chat-post.
	🎸 ♥ 11:09pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mr. X @11:01 right on. i've heard it before, thought it was Cobain. could just as well have been. or me! (although there are even stupider genre names)
	🎸 ♥ 11:11pm Austin Rich: The chat might get weird in a moment, since we're going long. You can keep posting, but it will look like the show is "finished." Hang in there!
	11:11pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:07 Didn't mean to step on your toes. I read a biography of John Peel, and it's amazing to me how he spans some contrasting musical subcultures.
	🎸 ♥ 11:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:09 Cobain did seem to be down on genres and labels, too. I feel like he had a lot of interesting interviews, too.
	🎸 ♥ 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:11 He had a very long career! Maybe we should collab on that one?
	11:12pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:47 I was flabbergasted when my daughter recently played a song from “Shout!” I said “Everyone hated that album!”
	🎸 ♥ 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:12 I have some love here and there, but it is not the one I turn to. Their later period is... mixed.
	11:13pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:12 If I get any ideas for it, I'll pass them along.
	🎸 ♥ 11:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:12 The one that I really can't get into is Smooth Noodle Maps. I really don't know what was going on there.
	11:14pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Orrore" by "Kandeggina Gang" This song is going out to the Milanese I know, Barbara - although I guess she's at work at Nordstroms
	11:14pm Mr Fab: Did you listen to John Peel’s American show, “Peel Out In The States”? I was so thrilled i could actually hear his show every week, I never missed it.
	🎸 ♥ 11:14pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @11:11 he was intelligent, and very tuned-in at a young age
	🎸 ♥ 11:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:14 I never did! I probably would have, if I'd known. I mostly know him from old air-checks and bootlegs.
	11:16pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Clear Vision" by "L Seven" yes, this is a different L Seven
	11:17pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:15 He worked at one of the British pirate radio stations out to sea, which have always fascinated me.
	11:17pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @11:14 Yeah, “Shout” doesn’t sound so bad to me, esp, compared to the next two that followed… No one knows about Devo‘s ‘90s album as The Wipeouters, but I really liked it.
	🎸 ♥ 11:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:17 Have you seen that fictionalized movie based on those boats? It's... okay?
	🎸 ♥ 11:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:17 I have that one! It's great!
	🎸 ♥ 11:18pm Aitch: ↳ Mr Fab @11:17 Must look, haven't heard The Wipeouters, but love Dove
	11:18pm ramencity: This is the one with the drill solo: www.youtube.com...
	11:19pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:18 Yes, it was sort of okay. I wouldn't mind seeing it again. But it left me wanting more of a factual documentary.
	🎸 ♥ 11:19pm Heather Z: Great show, as always! Thanks Ramen City Kid and Austin! Night all!!
	🎸 ♥ 11:19pm Aitch: Thanks guys, great fun show
	🎸 ♥ 11:20pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Austin Rich! Thanks ramencity!
	11:22pm Mr Fab: Thanks for the overtime awesomeness!
	11:22pm ramencity: thanks yall this was fun
	11:22pm Mr. X: Fun show, RCK & Austin! Thanks again!
	🎸 ♥ 11:22pm Austin Rich: Ya'll are wonderful! Thanks for hanging around and listening to great records with me!
	11:22pm ramencity: I'm gonna watch that Pakistani Dracula movie now
	🎸 ♥ 11:23pm Austin Rich: Moonlighting for me.
	11:24pm Mr. X: I've been re-watching The Tick animated version.
	1:58am Arvo: Hey! Sorry I missed it! Looks like a rollicking good time! Also! I think PragVEC was the band that JG. Thirlwell made his first official appearance on a recording, playing saxophone, as I recall...
	2:00am Arvo: Synths, in 1981... sorry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragVEC

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from February 6, 2024

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A combination of collage, new experimental records and other bits and bobs, Mid-Valley Mutations is a tour through the mind of Austin Rich, who has been broadcasting in some form since 1998. Heavily influenced by Dr Demento, Don Joyce and old fashioned College Radio, Austin creates Audio Essays on a variety of subjects, and even just plays records, from time to time. Sometimes Live music and Interviews will grace the program, helping create a situation where you don't really know what you're going to hear, when you tune in. What you need to know is when you enter the Mid-Valley region, be prepared for the Musical Mutations... in whatever form they take.

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Artist	Track	Album	Comments	Approx. start time
Dance Crayze "Dance Crayze"
Radio Birdman	Do The Pop "Do The Pop" by "Radio Birdman"	Once Upon A Time Vol 026 - Australia '76 - '78	(Sydney, Australia, '77)	0:00:19 (Pop-up)
Controllers	Do the Uganda "Do the Uganda" by "Controllers"	Slow Boy EP	(1979)	0:02:30 (Pop-up)
Cads	Do The Crabwalk "Do The Crabwalk" by "Cads"	Once Upon A Time Vol 024 - Canada '77 - '78	(Toronto, '78)	0:03:50 (Pop-up)
Skoings	Do The Orbit "Do The Orbit" by "Skoings"	Once Upon A Time Vol 013 - California & Pacific Northwest '77	(Los Angeles, California, 77)	0:05:50 (Pop-up)
Voodoo Idols	Do The Kirk "Do The Kirk" by "Voodoo Idols"	Once Upon A Time Vol 066 - South East '80 - '83	(Tampa, Florida, '82)	0:09:09 (Pop-up)

Dance Crayze "Dance Crayze"
Chuddy Nuddies	Do the Chud "Do the Chud" by "Chuddy Nuddies"	Brutality Religion & A Dance Beat	(1977)	0:18:40 (Pop-up)
Noise	Do The Climb "Do The Climb" by "Noise"	Once Upon A Time Vol 018 - The Midwest '78 - '79	(Topeka, Kansas, 78)	0:20:53 (Pop-up)
Crime	Do The Pogo "Do The Pogo" by "Crime"	Once Upon A Time Vol 070 - The Midwest (The Rest) '80 - '83	(Memphis, Tennessee, '81)	0:24:03 (Pop-up)
Customs	Do the Pogo II "Do the Pogo II" by "Customs"	Once Upon A Time Vol 021 - New England '77 - '79	(Boston, Massachusetts, 78)	0:26:20 (Pop-up)
Table	Do the Standing Still "Do the Standing Still" by "Table"	"Do The Standing Still" b/w "The Magical Melon Of The Tropics"	(1977)	0:28:53 (Pop-up)

Ladywayve "Ladywayve"
Lucrate Milk	She Told Me About Leeds Permanent Building Society	Lustiges Tierquartett EP	(1981)	0:37:56 (Pop-up)
Kas Product	So Young But So Cold "So Young But So Cold" by "Kas Product"	Try Out	(1982)	0:41:58 (Pop-up)
Ama-Dots	Hit Girls "Hit Girls" by "Ama-Dots"	Once Upon A Time Vol 070 - The Midwest (The Rest) '80 - '83	(Memphis, Tennessee, '81)	0:44:54 (Pop-up)
Essential Logic	Aerosol Burns "Aerosol Burns" by "Essential Logic"	"Aerosol Burns" b/w "World Friction"	(1978)	0:47:22 (Pop-up)
Ultimo Resorte	La Gran Estafa "La Gran Estafa" by "Ultimo Resorte"	Once Upon A Time Vol 057 - Spain '78 - '83	(Barcelona, '83)	0:49:18 (Pop-up)
Jeri Rossi	I Left My Heart But I Don't Know Where	Once Upon A Time Vol 065 - Rockies & Southwest '80 - '83	(Denver, Colorado, '83)	0:51:06 (Pop-up)

Ladywayve "Ladywayve"
Vermilion	Angry Young Women "Angry Young Women" by "Vermilion"	Angry Young Women EP	(1978)	1:02:17 (Pop-up)
Dead Katss	Fun Wars "Fun Wars" by "Dead Katss"	Once Upon A Time Vol 086 - U.K. '82 # 3	(Bristol, City of Bristol)	1:04:15 (Pop-up)
Plain Jane & The Jokes	Class War "Class War" by "Plain Jane & The Jokes"	The Joke's On You	(1981)	1:06:39 (Pop-up)
Tampax Street	I'm Gonna Get Some Fighting	Once Upon A Time Vol 032 - Sweden '77 - '78	(Stockholm, '78)	1:07:53 (Pop-up)
Poison Girls	Crisis "Crisis" by "Poison Girls"	Once Upon A Time Vol 051 - UK July to September '79	(08/79)	1:10:41 (Pop-up)
Morbid Opera	White Flag "White Flag" by "Morbid Opera"	Morbid Opera (1983-89)		1:14:01 (Pop-up)

Ladywayve "Ladywayve"
Jayne Doe	As The World Turns "As The World Turns" by "Jayne Doe"	Killed by Death #18	(California, 1980)	1:22:14 (Pop-up)
Stripes	Observer "Observer" by "Stripes"	Once Upon A Time Vol 082 - Germany '80 - '83	(Hagen, '80)	1:24:01 (Pop-up)
SIB	My Secret Life "My Secret Life" by "SIB"	Once Upon A Time Vol 044	(Forli, '81)	1:26:25 (Pop-up)
Suburban Lawns	Janitor "Janitor" by "Suburban Lawns"	Once Upon A Time Vol 062 - Southern California '81	(Long Beach, '81)	1:27:46 (Pop-up)
VS	Leather Complex "Leather Complex" by "VS"	"Magnetic Heart" b/w "Leather Complex"	(1980)	1:30:12 (Pop-up)
Tožibabe	Ti "Ti" by "Tožibabe"	Once Upon A Time Vol 088 - Ex-Yugoslavia '78 - '87	(Ljubljana, Slovenia, '86)	1:32:12 (Pop-up)

Ladywayve "Ladywayve"
Prag Vec	Cigarettes "Cigarettes" by "Prag Vec"	Prag Vec EP	(1978)	1:44:52 (Pop-up)
Fatal Microbes	Beautiful Pictures	Once Upon A Time Vol 052 - UK September to October '79		1:46:50 (Pop-up)
XL Captris	My City of Sydney "My City of Sydney" by "XL Captris"	Once Upon A Time Vol 026 - Australia & New Zealand '76 - '78	(Sydney, Australia, '78)	1:48:31 (Pop-up)
Hans-A-Plast	Rank Xerox "Rank Xerox" by "Hans-A-Plast"	Hans-A-Plast	(1979)	1:50:59 (Pop-up)
Candy Apple	Instinction "Instinction" by "Candy Apple"	Once Upon A Time Vol 072 - Upstate New York & New Jersey '80 - '83	(New Jersey, '80)	1:53:33 (Pop-up)
Bounce	Killing Me "Killing Me" by "Bounce"	Once Upon A Time Vol 072 - Upstate New York & New Jersey '80 - '83	(South Plainfield, New Jersey, '80)	1:56:43 (Pop-up)

Ladywayve "Ladywayve"
Bluttat	Bin zum Leben auf der Welt	Once Upon A Time Vol 082 - Germany '80 - '83	(Mülheim, '82)	2:06:07 (Pop-up)
Gina Harlow & The Cutthroats	Punks	Once Upon A Time Vol 012 - New York & New Jersey '79	(NYC, '79)	2:07:51 (Pop-up)
Plasmatics	Won't You "Won't You" by "Plasmatics"	Meet The Plasmatics EP	(1979)	2:10:43 (Pop-up)
Kandeggina Gang	Orrore "Orrore" by "Kandeggina Gang"	Once Upon A Time Vol 044 - Italy '77 - '82	(Milan, '80)	2:13:24 (Pop-up)
L Seven	Clear Vision "Clear Vision" by "L Seven"	Once Upon A Time Vol 069 - The Midwest: Michigan & Ohio '80 - '83	(Detroit, Michigan, '82)	2:15:37 (Pop-up)

VKTMS	No Long Good-Byes "No Long Good-Byes" by "VKTMS"	"100% White Girl" b/w "No Long Good-Byes"	(1980)	2:21:49 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🎸 ♥ 7:41pm Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	♥ 8:50pm Imaginos: Ahoy!
	8:58pm Mr. X: Sitting quietly at my desk, waiting for today's lesson.
	🎸 ♥ 9:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @8:50 Thanks for joining tonight!
	🎸 ♥ 9:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @8:58 You are always a good student!
	♥ 9:00pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:00 A pleasure as always
	9:00pm ramencity: huloooo
	🎸 ♥ 9:01pm Aitch: ↳ Song: "Do The Pop" by "Radio Birdman" Birdmannnnnnnnnn!
	🎸 ♥ 9:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:00 Tonight's Cohost!
	🎸 ♥ 9:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:01 Hell yeah!
	9:02pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:01 The cohost with the comost.
	♥ 9:02pm Imaginos: Had a very good day and this show just made it better
	9:02pm BC Sterrett: Have a great show Austin!
	9:03pm ramencity: getcha dancin shoes on
	🎸 ♥ 9:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ BC Sterrett @9:02 Thanks BC! And thank you for the excellent show yourself! I do love when BC comes to town.
	♥ 9:04pm Rory: I’m here for the punk!
	🎸 ♥ 9:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @9:04 We shall deliver! And: thanks for droppin' by!
	9:08pm Mr Fab: Austin! Aargh, seeing all those gig flyers still makes me cringe. I threw out my collection when I moved out of mom's house. After all, who's gonna care about a bunch of ads for some old LA punk bands..?
	🎸 ♥ 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:08 Oh, that's heartbreaking! I certainly threw out a bunch that I regret now. But I still have a lot that are now in huge folders, for safe keeping.
	♥ 9:09pm Imaginos: Punk has a way of being dark and fun at the same time
	9:12pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Do The Orbit" by "Skoings" I spy a Sheena's DJ on the album sleeve...
	9:15pm ramencity: ↳ Mr Fab @9:12 ooooh
	9:18pm Mr Fab: Ha, yep, Germs pictured middle right. Kitten Bolles in the shades, far right.
	🎸 ♥ 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:09 I think that's the charm for me.
	♥ 9:20pm Imaginos: What we need are more punk sea shanties
	🎸 ♥ 9:20pm Austin Rich: Here's the blog that hosts this 100 disc compilation, and a bunch of other punk comps and singles, that is well worth pillaging. But: beware the meta-data. 'tis inaccurate, at best. disorderareyouexperienced.blogspot.com
	🎸 ♥ 9:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:20 Pirate Punks probably exists. I need to investigate...
	9:23pm Mr. X: ↳ Imaginos @9:20 Sex Pistols covered Friggin' in the Riggin', if that helps.
	♥ 9:23pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:23 Will have to check it out
	🎸 ♥ 9:24pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Do The Pogo" by "Crime" NOT the Crime from San Francisco. Or the Crime from the UK.
	9:24pm ramencity: I always wanted to write a musical called The Pirates of Mens' Pants
	🎸 ♥ 9:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:24 Are they searching for Mens Pants? Or are they wearing Mens Pants?
	9:25pm ramencity: ↳ Austin Rich @9:25 Neither!
	♥ 9:25pm Imaginos: ↳ ramencity @9:24 Sounds like fun. Try Trelby for the script
	♥ 9:27pm Imaginos: ?! II came out before I?
	🎸 ♥ 9:28pm coelacanth∅: greetings Austin and mutants
	♥ 9:28pm Imaginos: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:28 Ahoy!
	🎸 ♥ 9:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:28 Ahhhh, coelacanthø! Hooray!
	🎸 ♥ 9:29pm coelacanth∅: aloha Imaginos!
	9:30pm ramencity: ↳ Imaginos @9:27 probably a timeslip
	🎸 ♥ 9:31pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Do the Standing Still" by "Table" i used to try to do this dance at punk shows... i'd always catch my foot disobeying
	♥ 9:33pm Imaginos: Excellent music
	9:34pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Do the Standing Still" by "Table" I have this track on a playlist I put together called "Do The Failed Dance Craze." Songs going back to the early '60s at least.
	♥ 9:34pm Imaginos: Starlight Oysters
	♥ 9:38pm Imaginos: Jump stomp pump and romp!
	🎸 ♥ 9:38pm coelacanth∅: greetings ramencity kid
	🎸 ♥ 9:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:38 It's the only way to dance!
	9:38pm ramencity: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:38 merci Ceolocanthø!
	9:39pm ramencity: ↳ Mr Fab @9:34 ooh so many - I hope that playlist is 'out there' somewhere... "Do the Popeye" was the first Eddie Bo record I ever got..
	9:40pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "She Told Me About Leeds Permanent Building Societ... Crass meets Plastic People of the Universe in France.
	🎸 ♥ 9:41pm coelacanth∅: i always wondered what "do the hansa" was about...
	🎸 ♥ 9:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:40 Ha! That's fantastic.
	9:42pm Dean: Holy crap, what have I missed?! Saw the Controllers ages ago, and later The Gears played my high school after I'd graduated. A friend of mine was, long ago, Kid Spike's girlfriend. And Crime, what an amazing live band. As were Radio Birdman.
	9:43pm Dean: Still have that Controllers single.
	♥ 9:43pm Rory: ↳ Song: "She Told Me About Leeds Permanent Building Societ... So many weird punk bands 79-81
	🎸 ♥ 9:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @9:42 Damn! I only know OF the Controllers. Very cool. Hopefully our set it delivering tonight, Dean! Being young is sort of dumb, sometimes. You miss all the cool stuff. I think I have a Controllers re-issue single, somewhere.
	9:44pm ramencity: ↳ Dean @9:43 nice! keep ahold of that puppy!
	🎸 ♥ 9:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @9:43 That's what we like here!
	9:46pm ramencity: I just realized Malaria! weren't anywhere on those comps, seems like a strange omission
	9:46pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Hit Girls" by "Ama-Dots" Memphis got moved from the South to the Midwest?! I know, this compiler is European, can't expect them to know all the regions.
	🎸 ♥ 9:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:46 I think you could easily do at least five volumes of "omissions."
	🎸 ♥ 9:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:46 Yeah, some of the ways they divide up the US is funny. But he probably does as good / better than some US citizens.
	9:48pm ramencity: Pshhh, Memphis is in Egypt...
	9:48pm Mr. X: I blame Mason & Dixon.
	9:48pm Mr Fab: The "New Flanland" show here on Sheena's did an all-Kleenex/Lilliput episode, feat. an interview with the author of a book about them. As femme post-punk goes, doesn't get much better than them.
	🎸 ♥ 9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:48 And the Thomas Pynchon novel by the same name, while we're at it.
	9:49pm ramencity: ↳ Mr Fab @9:48 ooh! I just recently got that book, haven't had a chance to read it yet. I <3 me some kleenex
	♥ 9:49pm Rory: ↳ Mr Fab @9:48 Kleenex/Lilliput legends!
	🎸 ♥ 9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:48 Yeah, saw that in the archive, and I need to listen to it still.
	🎸 ♥ 9:49pm Aitch: Lots of sax in these old tracks, always thought sax was a weird fit with punk.
	🎸 ♥ 9:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:49 I always thought of it as a throw-back to 50's rock music, after all the excess of the late 60's / early '70's.
	9:51pm Mr Fab: ↳ Aitch @9:49 especially in New York. As Fear reminded us.
	🎸 ♥ 9:51pm Aitch: ↳ Austin Rich @9:50 Or learned it in school band and couldn't play anything else?
	♥ 9:52pm Imaginos: Wild show, but getting sleepy. Going to try to hang on a bit longer tho
	🎸 ♥ 9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:51 Mayhaps! I sort of regret ditching my trombone. I think I would actually want to play it well, now.
	🎸 ♥ 9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:52 I totally understand, as it is later for you. Have as much fun as you can, as we'll connect Thursday!
	9:52pm Mr Fab: ↳ Aitch @9:51 after post-punk, they all joined ska bands
	🎸 ♥ 9:53pm Aitch: ↳ Austin Rich @9:52 My friend Dunc plays trombone on the 1st Celebate Rifles album, of which he's very proud
	9:53pm Dean: Cool thing about the Controllers, acknowledged at the time, was that the drummer, Mad Dog Carla, was (and I hope still is) an African American female. I think we admired that nod to diversity in LA at the time, though she would be the person to state the facts.
	♥ 9:53pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:52 Definitely. Looking forward to our reading and recording.
	9:53pm Mr. X: i think John Lurie made it so the sax adds a kind of No Wave dimension to the punk songs that use it.
	9:54pm Dean: And Ted Milton of Blurt.
	9:54pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @9:53 oh no way! I have some albums by them, I will have to check which ones
	🎸 ♥ 9:55pm Aitch: ↳ ramencity @9:54 him and his brother were the horn section, same high school
	♥ 9:56pm Imaginos: Punk is so popular it has become a suffix.
	♥ 9:58pm Rory: Mutant Sounds! Miss them so much.
	9:58pm Dean: Punk, '76-'79 punk, was a sublime moment to be alive. I stood on Hollywood Blvd. at the time thinking, "This is an amazing convergence and commingling of creative ambitions and forces. Glad I'm here."
	🎸 ♥ 9:59pm Aitch: Australians are infectious, we spread out all over the place
	♥ 10:00pm Imaginos: ↳ Aitch @9:59 My mum was Australian
	♥ 10:01pm Imaginos: See you on Thursday, Austin
	🎸 ♥ 10:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @9:58 Certainly I'm a sucker for this kind of music, but it's all academic for me, unforunately. By the time I was able to go to shows and see a lot of bands - the mid-90's - punk had changed a lot. There were still great bands and shows, but it was old hat by then.
	10:03pm ramencity: ok the Celibate Rifles recs I have are: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and Roman Beach Party
	🎸 ♥ 10:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:01 Yes, I will! Take care.
	🎸 ♥ 10:07pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Class War" by "Plain Jane & The Jokes" A Dils cover! So great!
	10:07pm Mr Fab: ↳ Dean @9:58 i was young, barely a teen, and I can honestly say that it made me a music fan. Chanced upon Rodney on the ROQ, and was like: wow, this is NOT The Eagles, Barry Manilow, Van Halen, Captain and Tenille, this I like! If you weren't there it's hard to imagine what a shock to the culture it was. Like going from the Starland Vocal Band to Black Flag was just incredible.
	10:07pm ramencity: "On a clear day you can see the class war from up here..." - some Mike Leigh film
	10:08pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:07 And at so early a date, amazing!
	🎸 ♥ 10:09pm Austin Rich: As a kid in rural Ore-GUN, there was country music, hair metal, and... getting high? So certainly finding music that was interesting and you could sink your teeth into - and was from anywhere BUT rural Oregon - seemed imperative to me.
	🎸 ♥ 10:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:08 I'm such a sucker for those Dils songs. I really wish I could find those singles!
	10:13pm Mr Fab: You gotta read Kid Congo powers’ book. He talks about hitching a ride with the Dils to go up to San Francisco to see the Sex Pistols.
	🎸 ♥ 10:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:13 I have been wanting to read that! It has been recommended by a few folks.
	10:14pm Dean: Rodney on the ROQ was such an important catalyst. Truly, an impresario. I'm not sure, Austin, that your admiration is necessarily academic, for two reasons. First, one can connect quite intimately to artistic work produced beyond one's own time. Second, what's so bad about academic? It entails focused study and care. I had an opportunity to travel to SF for the vaunted Pistols show with Flipside, with whom I was working at the time. I declined, to my continuing regret.
	🎸 ♥ 10:22pm coelacanth∅: if i'd known about the sexpistols playing near me (but i was pretty young and usually not aware of ANY shows, let alone punk shows) i probably would've declined. i appreciated -to a slight degree- what they were going for; but musically it bored me for the most part. (except "pretty vacant")
	🎸 ♥ 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:14 I do love listening to old Rodney tapes. What a show! I do feel like I fourished best in college... when i was working at the radio station there! It all connects.
	10:24pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Observer" by "Stripes" This is "later was Nena of 99 Luftballons" group
	🎸 ♥ 10:24pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:22 It's funny how their reputation waxes and wanes. I feel like they had a better reputation when I was young, but these days, not so much. I'm sure it'll come back, and they'll be big again with the kids, and they they'll fade. Seems like a cycle with them.
	10:24pm Dean: I went to London in late '76. That's when I purchased the first Pistols' single, though not the A&M release!
	10:25pm Dean: The Pistols were, like all my children, perfect.
	🎸 ♥ 10:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:24 I'm not sure which I like better? They're both pretty good, for different reasons.
	🎸 ♥ 10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:24 I still want to go to the UK. My boss tells me that T. Rex singles are plentiful and cheap!
	🎸 ♥ 10:27pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:25 The guitar player in my first band, Cathead, was a big Pistols fan, and would collect all sorts of bootlegs and live albums. I still have a tape he made me, of his favorite Pistols stuff. I recall "Belsen Was A Gas" was pretty fantastic.
	🎸 ♥ 10:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Janitor" by "Suburban Lawns" xxx ooo = Suburban Lawns!
	10:28pm Mr. X: I'm a huge fan of Suburban Lawns.
	🎸 ♥ 10:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:28 What's not to love! They are pretty fun.
	🎸 ♥ 10:29pm Aitch: ↳ Song: "Janitor" by "Suburban Lawns" Hold my genitals?
	♥ 10:29pm Rory: Suburban Lawns!
	10:30pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:28 Took forever for their LP to be released on CD. I digitized mine years before it was officially on CD.
	🎸 ♥ 10:30pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @10:29 There's probably a little of each.
	10:30pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @10:29 Oh my janitor? Oh my genitals? something like that
	🎸 ♥ 10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:30 And now, there are things on CD that were never issued any other way. Oh, the ironies!
	10:31pm Mr. X: ↳ Aitch @10:29 Nice to know I'm not the only one who mis-hears the lyrics that way, LOL!
	🎸 ♥ 10:32pm Austin Rich: I know misheard lyrics books are big with pop songs, put I want to make a zine of misheard punk lyrics.
	10:34pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @10:31 No, not misheard. “Genitals” are in there. Along with “janitors.”
	10:35pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @10:34 Shocking!
	🎸 ♥ 10:38pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:24 probably diminished somewhat in recent years because johnny lydon opened his mouth, revealing what an idiot he is... but, although that was clear to me in my teens, in the 70s, it was the music itself that bored me then.
	🎸 ♥ 10:40pm coelacanth∅: s.i.b. from duty now for the future
	10:41pm Dean: Lydon took care of his ailing wife, who recently died. He is a smart, eccentric, talented guy. He might have been difficult and provocative, but he was masterfully so.
	🎸 ♥ 10:42pm Heather Z: Was going to confirm re Devo but now just here to say great stuff, Ramen City Kid and Austin! Been tuned in and enjoying everything I'm hearing!
	🎸 ♥ 10:43pm coelacanth∅: but i think duty now for the future , like the first devo album, is a world away from (and infinitely better than) all devo that came after.
	10:44pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr Fab @10:34 “Janitor” was such a big KROQ hit that Weird Al included it in his first polka medley. Don’t think the recording is available anywhere, but would love to be proven wrong.
	10:44pm Dean: I remember when Rodney played--for the first time in the USA, I think, or at least in California--the first Devo single. My buddy and I hit the record stores the next day and acquired our copies.
	10:45pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Cigarettes" by "Prag Vec" "...it's been like like this since we saw PragVEC at the Melkweg..."
	🎸 ♥ 10:45pm coelacanth∅: hi Heather!
	🎸 ♥ 10:45pm Aitch: My 75yr old bro-in-law is obsessed by half-man half biscuit???
	10:45pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @10:45 oooh is he on the biccies forum?
	🎸 ♥ 10:46pm Aitch: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:43 In recent DEVO show here they played mostly the earlier stuff, a lot off Duty Now, it was great
	🎸 ♥ 10:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @10:46 Devo put on such great shows! Seen 'em twice, which it had been more, but twice is pretty good!
	♥ 10:47pm Rory: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:43 Early Devo is the best
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm Aitch: ↳ ramencity @10:45 He's 75? He heard them somewhere and it stuck to him. But he did see Hendrix.
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:46 Omg I'd so love to see them. Haven't had a chance yet. Maybe some day?
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm coelacanth∅: that's great to hear! who knows, maybe i'd see them again... probably not. it wouldn't be 5 bucks, like last time!
	🎸 ♥ 10:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Dean @10:44 I recall hearing Devo that wasn't, "Whip It," and realizing they were really good, and it wasn't just a gimmick. My mom gave me "Shout" because she didn't like it, and after that, I had to go and get the rest.
	🎸 ♥ 10:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Aitch @10:46 ^ Aitch
	10:48pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:47 I blame MTV.
	🎸 ♥ 10:49pm Aitch: ↳ Song: "My City of Sydney" by "XL Captris" A great place, you should all come visit!
	🎸 ♥ 10:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:48 It's funny, because I think Devo made videos well before MTV was a thing. And later, of course, MTV cops their style.
	🎸 ♥ 10:50pm Austin Rich: I would love to travel around Australia! Someday! Maybe I can do a music tour?
	10:51pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @10:49 I would love to someday, too...
	10:51pm Dean: A little more inside dirt: the family of the friend of mine who was Kid Spike's girlfriend hosted Devo when they arrived in LA. They stayed with her family. We're talking late '70s.
	🎸 ♥ 10:51pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:47 my mom wasn't too keen on devo either! -or most of what i listened to at that time.
	🎸 ♥ 10:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather Z @10:47 Hopefully soon! I think they are not young.
	10:52pm ramencity: ↳ Dean @10:51 wut. :mindblown:
	🎸 ♥ 10:52pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:48 In the 80s, a friend's mom canceled their cable because of the Whip It video! She did not approve. I didn't have cable at my house but remember seeing that vid at Heather Baker's house and I was so intrigued!
	🎸 ♥ 10:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:51 My mom and I have some common ground, but she doesn't really like punk / new wave stuff, and certainly not experimental music. But she does like psychedellic stuff. That's her scene. (That and blues music.)
	🎸 ♥ 10:53pm Heather Z: ↳ Dean @10:51 And.....? I bet they were nice. Were they nice?
	🎸 ♥ 10:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:52 Seriously. Dean is my new hero.
	🎸 ♥ 10:53pm coelacanth∅: that whip it video was hilarious!
	🎸 ♥ 10:54pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:53 I think Devo have the perfect balance of thoughtful and funny videos. I could watch those collections over and over again.
	🎸 ♥ 10:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:52 if my mom were to hear the range of music i like now, there'd be much more common ground; and much more absolute disgust!
	10:54pm Mr. X: ↳ Heather Z @10:52 Of all the things to object to on TV, she chose that? Some people....
	🎸 ♥ 10:54pm Austin Rich: We're gonna go long, folks. Hope you don't mind! Stick around, we've got one more set, at least!
	🎸 ♥ 10:55pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:51 They were grown ups when I was young and I am no longer young so yeah.... hopefully soon.
	♥ 10:56pm Rory: When I listened to Whip It it was a joke to me. Years later Iheard Mongoloid and Wiggly World I was blown away!
	🎸 ♥ 10:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:54 If there is a way, people will become incensed. People think of it as a challenge to find new ways to get upset about things.
	🎸 ♥ 10:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @10:56 Yeah, "Mongoloid," still feels pretty relevant.
	♥ 10:56pm Rory: Thanks for the show Austin Rich!
	🎸 ♥ 10:56pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:54 My mom also isn't known for choosing her battles. Or for approving of things. So I do get it. But yeahhh
	10:57pm Mr. X: At the R&R Hall of fame they have a special section on Akron & Cleveland bands, where they have Devo's energy domes on display.
	🎸 ♥ 10:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Rory @10:56 You're welcome. Since no one is after, we'll go long.
	🎸 ♥ 10:58pm coelacanth∅: my mother was surely disturbed if she ever overheard "mongoloid" from my room -and for good reason.
	🎸 ♥ 10:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:57 I visited an LA friend I only knew from the interwaves, and they had an energy dome at their house, and it was all I could do to not wear it the whole time I was visiting. (This was pre-covid.)
	10:59pm Dean: I am not hero-worthy, but I am so grateful that I got to play in the midst of that brief network of talented, funky people. What a time it was.
	10:59pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:58 You would look good sporting one of those.
	🎸 ♥ 11:00pm coelacanth∅: so who's voice is dissing the stupid term,"punk rock" - Kurt Cobain?
	11:01pm Mr. X: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:00 Some kid interviewed on Decline and Fall of Western Civilization.
	🎸 ♥ 11:01pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:59 Seconded! It's time to get one!
	🎸 ♥ 11:05pm Aitch: Peel session Half Man HB. www.youtube.com...
	🎸 ♥ 11:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @11:05 Need to bookmark that!
	11:07pm Mr. X: John Peel could be the subject of a whole series of shows here.
	11:07pm ramencity: ↳ Aitch @11:05 "There's gonna be a riot down in Trumpton tonight!" - I should get that Brian Cant dvd box set...
	🎸 ♥ 11:07pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:07 You took the words right out of my chat-post.
	🎸 ♥ 11:09pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mr. X @11:01 right on. i've heard it before, thought it was Cobain. could just as well have been. or me! (although there are even stupider genre names)
	🎸 ♥ 11:11pm Austin Rich: The chat might get weird in a moment, since we're going long. You can keep posting, but it will look like the show is "finished." Hang in there!
	11:11pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:07 Didn't mean to step on your toes. I read a biography of John Peel, and it's amazing to me how he spans some contrasting musical subcultures.
	🎸 ♥ 11:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:09 Cobain did seem to be down on genres and labels, too. I feel like he had a lot of interesting interviews, too.
	🎸 ♥ 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:11 He had a very long career! Maybe we should collab on that one?
	11:12pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:47 I was flabbergasted when my daughter recently played a song from “Shout!” I said “Everyone hated that album!”
	🎸 ♥ 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:12 I have some love here and there, but it is not the one I turn to. Their later period is... mixed.
	11:13pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:12 If I get any ideas for it, I'll pass them along.
	🎸 ♥ 11:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:12 The one that I really can't get into is Smooth Noodle Maps. I really don't know what was going on there.
	11:14pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Orrore" by "Kandeggina Gang" This song is going out to the Milanese I know, Barbara - although I guess she's at work at Nordstroms
	11:14pm Mr Fab: Did you listen to John Peel’s American show, “Peel Out In The States”? I was so thrilled i could actually hear his show every week, I never missed it.
	🎸 ♥ 11:14pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @11:11 he was intelligent, and very tuned-in at a young age
	🎸 ♥ 11:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:14 I never did! I probably would have, if I'd known. I mostly know him from old air-checks and bootlegs.
	11:16pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Clear Vision" by "L Seven" yes, this is a different L Seven
	11:17pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:15 He worked at one of the British pirate radio stations out to sea, which have always fascinated me.
	11:17pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @11:14 Yeah, “Shout” doesn’t sound so bad to me, esp, compared to the next two that followed… No one knows about Devo‘s ‘90s album as The Wipeouters, but I really liked it.
	🎸 ♥ 11:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:17 Have you seen that fictionalized movie based on those boats? It's... okay?
	🎸 ♥ 11:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:17 I have that one! It's great!
	🎸 ♥ 11:18pm Aitch: ↳ Mr Fab @11:17 Must look, haven't heard The Wipeouters, but love Dove
	11:18pm ramencity: This is the one with the drill solo: www.youtube.com...
	11:19pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @11:18 Yes, it was sort of okay. I wouldn't mind seeing it again. But it left me wanting more of a factual documentary.
	🎸 ♥ 11:19pm Heather Z: Great show, as always! Thanks Ramen City Kid and Austin! Night all!!
	🎸 ♥ 11:19pm Aitch: Thanks guys, great fun show
	🎸 ♥ 11:20pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Austin Rich! Thanks ramencity!
	11:22pm Mr Fab: Thanks for the overtime awesomeness!
	11:22pm ramencity: thanks yall this was fun
	11:22pm Mr. X: Fun show, RCK & Austin! Thanks again!
	🎸 ♥ 11:22pm Austin Rich: Ya'll are wonderful! Thanks for hanging around and listening to great records with me!
	11:22pm ramencity: I'm gonna watch that Pakistani Dracula movie now
	🎸 ♥ 11:23pm Austin Rich: Moonlighting for me.
	11:24pm Mr. X: I've been re-watching The Tick animated version.
	1:58am Arvo: Hey! Sorry I missed it! Looks like a rollicking good time! Also! I think PragVEC was the band that JG. Thirlwell made his first official appearance on a recording, playing saxophone, as I recall...
	2:00am Arvo: Synths, in 1981... sorry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragVEC

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