WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 28, 2020

Listener comments!
	6:04pm ultradamno: Ken! Techtonation Managers! Oddly, the food is fit to breathe and the air is fit to eat!
	🤖 6:04pm chresti: I'm mad as hell!
	6:04pm Fredericks: My Life Has Value!
	6:05pm listener james from westwood: I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I]M NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANYMORE!
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Techtonic, now with more Staysh! Hello, SMKen. Hello Techyon Drives!
	6:05pm a5vzener: Hey Mark. Anger is GOOD.
	6:05pm listener james from westwood: Anger is an energy!
	6:05pm ultradamno: But I'm only as peeved as heck...
	6:06pm Dean: "Oh wah! Tah goo! Siam!"
	6:06pm brainiac: I opened my window and got ready to yell, but due to the poor air quality, I had to close it again and had a coughing fit.
	6:06pm David in London: Evening Technoids. Greetings Staysh. Handy, ultradamno.
	🤖 6:06pm Handy Haversack: Someone bowdlerized you, ultradamno.
	6:06pm Carmichael: Just don't put up that god damn frying egg and we'll get along just fine.
	6:06pm GListener MW: Welcome, KenTonic!
	6:06pm Ike: Hi. Good to be here. For that matter, good to be anywhere.
	6:06pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	6:06pm chris: hey, Ken and folks. mad as hell. not gonna take it, unless i continue to be disempowered to do anything about it.
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: David, good to see you once again!
	🤖 6:07pm chresti: A break from his raincoat.
	6:07pm ultradamno: @handy It was relatively painless though.
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Get Owl Sun to talk about algorithmic music programming.
	6:08pm iiibeat: I also heard that he masturbates with rubber gloves on!! lol. . JK JK!!
	6:08pm a5vzener: Those darned algorithms are going to be the death of us all.
	6:08pm GListener MW: !!! More like BOOO-tify #BeenSavingThatOne
	6:08pm spodiodi: ahoy-hoy
	6:08pm Carmichael: Let's talk about autotune ...
	6:09pm ultradamno: Article about Spotify's "bizarre" and simultaneously "generic" artists twitter.com...
	6:09pm Dean: The people who run businesses like Spotify sure can be paranoid, selfish, self-important little assholes.
	🤖 6:09pm Handy Haversack: spodiodify!
	6:10pm spodiodi: i'm vaguely dissatisfied. i'll take what's being served.
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: I'm told the cult doc was stretched over way too many episodes.
	6:10pm chris: Mark's newsletter sign up is at the bottom, i believe: creativegood.com...
	6:11pm Carmichael: I've never listened to Spotify, and have no plans to ever do so.
	6:11pm ultradamno: The more I watch The Vow, the more convinced I am the whole thing started as one nerd's aspiration to bang his way through the casts of Smallville and Battlestar Galactica
	6:12pm dale: there's a heartburn med sex cult?
	6:12pm brainiac: You'll save yourself a lot of trouble, Carmichael.
	6:12pm ultradamno: Love Fraud also has the impossible to like anyone involved dynamic at play as well.
	6:12pm Fredericks: Morris interviewed Trump.
	6:14pm ultradamno: Outcry was the earlier Showtime docuseries full of insufferable people.
	🤖 6:14pm Bas NL: Me's late! Hi Ken! Kentechtonicals!
	6:14pm Carmichael: McDonald refuses to participate in the parole process, because that would imply that he is guilty.
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: Spotify holds its algorithms close to its hairless chicken chest.
	6:16pm a5vzener: Absolutely it's the secret sauce.
	6:16pm dale: do they have the secret formula for a.m.coke? that was a big deal for two or three months.
	6:16pm Joe Mulligan: I’d really like to know more about the Spotify algo... they seem to suggest the cheap/unpopular songs. Could that be because they even pay a lower than minuscule royalty for unwanted songs?
	6:17pm David in London: Does anyone remember the documentary The Outsider? About a French man who masqueraded as the kidnapped son of an American family? That was a truly disquieting film.
	6:17pm a5vzener: Spotify benefits from the surveillance capitalism gravity fields of YouTube and Facebook. See the Social Dilemma documentary on Netflix!
	🤖 6:17pm Handy Haversack: I have a sad story about listening to Suzy Hotrod's show at my friend's place in Park Slope but then his partner came back and thought it was too staticky and put on the Spotify Rockabilly channel. And it went from song after song I was discovering to song after song I had heard a thousand times. That's pretty much the story, actually.
	6:17pm spodiodi: Carmichael @611 -- same here. to hell with that crap. WFMU is here
	6:17pm WR: We can talk about Robot Bunny algorithm?
	6:17pm ultradamno: I've noticed the You Tube recs have taken a turn towards political items designed to draw me into a comments flame war.
	6:18pm spodiodi: Handy @617 -- that says it all. sad
	6:19pm dale: i've never tried spotify. pandora is meh. sirius xm is ho hum. a live deejay who can draw lines between the dots in songs is the only way to go.
	6:19pm spodiodi: i have a very difficult topic for this programme (some other time.. can't shake it)
	6:19pm listener james from westwood: That toddler-animation story is ultra-fucked.
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: My YouTube recommendations are just random garbage and stuff they think is popular.
	6:20pm chris: i agree, dale.
	6:21pm yipster: that god i stopped using youtube now i only use jewtube
	6:21pm chris: dump your cookies, too, Ken.
	6:21pm spodiodi: if you search simply for "Y" on YT, light pedo links appear. (or did)
	6:21pm dale: o-TAY!
	6:22pm spodiodi: snap snap
	6:22pm teod: en.wikipedia.org... deals with a netflix programmer bounty for recommending films
	6:22pm ultradamno: The odd thing about it is it's not like I use You Tube to watch crank political stuff, just punk and noise, usually.
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: If it's the Lucy Show where she shoots up a pizza joint that's been trafficking children, you know you're onto something.
	6:23pm dale: he was knifed in a bar i think. sad sh*t.
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: Moe Syzslak killed the original Alfalfa, no?
	6:23pm yipster: lucy drove through the holland tunnel going the wrong way
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: Get Bronwyn C. on the phone for News Of The Dead!
	6:25pm Dean: It's easy enough to change YT settings to eliminate recs. It's kinda fun to see what gets treated as average, what YT imagines we average schmucks care about.
	🤖 6:25pm Wendy del Formaggio: Last year I discovered that with Firefox (the browser I use), you can download an add-on that removes You Tube comments. You never have to see them! It's pretty excellent.
	6:25pm spodiodi: nice one, Wendy
	6:26pm johnzo: now i wanna hear ken's tsunami footage recommendations. or how about avalanche footage... mudslide?
	6:26pm a5vzener: Just search for "AK-47" in the YouTube search bar.
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: I have a test account on Facebook that I don't use, and it emails me every day with suggestions for groups they hope it will sign up for.
	🤖 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi. You logged out of YT, you say? If there's no one logged in, maybe you gt random selections every time. You might need to create an ID and log into that and then run the experiment.
	🤖 6:27pm Wendy del Formaggio: @spodiodi: It IS a nice one. I recommend it to everyone, especially if you loathe social media trolls.
	6:27pm Dean: I'll stick with Ian Astbury as my favorite cult leader.
	6:27pm spodiodi: there was a troll in here recently who posted a link and disguised it as being anti-shithead, when it was indeed a shithead-produced content made to generate $ for the orange dumpster fire. i wanted to warn everyone but didn't want to give the troll any recognition. i hope n one else clicked it though
	6:29pm chris: spodi, you can email the dj, or Ken, and they will remove the comment. that way, no trolls are fed, only silenced.
	6:30pm spodiodi: it never occurred to me to look, Wendy, but that makes perfect sense. my favorite firefox add-ons are Ghostery and Styleus
	6:30pm Patty D: I use the fmu app whenever Shazam doesnt get it.
	6:31pm yipster: why is the tallest unicycle in the world so much taller than the tallest bicycle in the world?
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: Sometimes Shazam does pick up a lot of foreign language FMU cuts!
	6:31pm spodiodi: thanks, chris -- i kinda knew but never have. it delights me when they vanish. i want to tell each and every one of them what i think, but that's what they want, so i keep it zipped. i always figure the board-op will get it before i can do what you've mentioned
	🤖 6:31pm Wendy del Formaggio: @spodiodi: Looking up your recommended add-ons now...
	6:32pm ultradamno: I like the Netflix recs, because they advance them as very scientific with a percentage of accuracy and all, and it's always whatever is new that they're pushing.
	6:32pm Dean: My source for recommendations is Fanfare magazine, a bimonthly 500-600 page-per-issue, tiny margins, few images, consisting of reviews of new classical recordings and interviews with the artists. I do not find that the content grows more extreme from issue to issue.
	6:32pm WR: I protest. Mark Hurst is nothing like the character Beale in network.
	6:32pm Mennlinn Rebarts: Shazam uses your microphone buffer. It works so quickly because there is always an amount of audio recorded on your phone.
	6:32pm Rob W: Shazam can't recognize vinyl - that's one big reason a lot WFMU tracks won't come up, I think.
	6:33pm ultradamno: @WR I know I've seen a picture of Mark looking that sweaty.
	6:33pm spodiodi: Mennlinn -- that is wack. had no idea. paranoid about everything like that though
	6:34pm Listener Robert: Neilsen still uses diaries. I know because I'm doing the Neilsen for radio this week.
	6:34pm Fredericks: I can't find "Styleus," spodiodi.
	6:34pm WR: Last year i got an Arbitron diary offer last year, it had gone into the junk mail pile and so did not reply in time.
	6:34pm teod: Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
	6:34pm Syl: No, that's Maslow's hierarchy of needs
	6:34pm Jeff Moore: That was Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
	6:35pm Fredericks: Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: Shazam uses a fingerprint of the audio so that distortion doesn't confuse it. That is probably a key made out of compressed vectorized audio spectral frames. Then there's a killer index of these keys.
	6:35pm spodiodi: Fredericks: addons.mozilla.org...
	6:35pm Mennlinn Rebarts: @spodiodi Well, I like how shazam uses it, but there are tons of aps that are using it to exploit users. Extremely whack
	6:36pm brainiac: Who the hell is this guy on the phone?
	6:36pm dale: trump is cornering the market on the machines that do the die cut between tp sheets.
	6:36pm spodiodi: i tell maskless ppl to love themselves
	6:36pm spodiodi: a shithead
	6:36pm ultradamno: Oh, he's thinks he's reasonable. Ugh.
	6:37pm Fredericks: Nice. Thanks, spoliodi.
	6:37pm spodiodi: yeah -- middle finger to you, caller. **==
	6:37pm a5vzener: It's all about him.
	6:37pm Rob W: @ Webhamster Henry - yes, I in fact I use Shazam quite often to ID tracks from the area Indian radio station (1600 AM) - they don't put their playlist online but the music is all digital. I also recently used it to ID an Uzbek song that was playing in the Brighton Beach parking lot, stuff like that - quite handy for international stuff!
	6:37pm a5vzener: turd
	6:37pm Fredericks: Does this guy drink and drive, too?
	6:37pm spodiodi: sure thing, Frdericks
	🤖 6:37pm Handy Haversack: I haven't watched anything on YouTube in two years, I think. Never had Netflix,Spotify, any of those.
	🤖 6:37pm Webhamster Henry: There ya go - endorsed by Rob!
	6:37pm Mennlinn Rebarts: I hope this guy is a put on, but there are too many people like this.
	6:38pm spodiodi: idiot
	6:38pm brainiac: When they were talking about ratings methods, I thought I heard him say, "When I was a kid I asked my dog, how..."?
	6:38pm Fredericks: I know a 40 year old guy who now has a pacemaker due to Covid.
	6:38pm spodiodi: this guy is what brings my murderous rage right to the surface
	6:38pm goes211: Dump button.
	6:38pm ultradamno: The wedding invitation that forbade masks because they wanted "to see everyone's beautiful mouths' Darwin Award hopefuls twitter.com...
	6:38pm spodiodi: (like nothing else)
	6:38pm Jeff Moore: B'bye.
	6:39pm David in London: Brainiac. I heard that too. Is he Son of Sam?
	6:39pm yipster: are antimaskers gonna wear masks on halloween?
	6:39pm chris: epistemologically, yes, there is no Truth (capital T), but there is always an experiential truth. regardless, outside a philosophical discussion, of course truth is truth. wanker.
	6:40pm Smokestack: That escalated quickly. Bye bye, dude.
	🤖 6:40pm Handy Haversack: You can do hermeneutic exegesis of asswipes all day long, and in every interpretation, you'll find you're still dealing with an asswipe.
	6:40pm a5vzener: Sue Spotify! Yummy! Yummy!
	6:41pm spodiodi: Fredericks, man.... man. poor guy. sigh
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: "The Mainspring of this country - wound up as tight as it is - is guaranteed for the life of the watch" -- The President, We're All Bozos On This Bus
	6:41pm Jeff Moore: Thomas Robert Malthus is known for coming up (in the late 1700s) with the notion that population grows exponentially but the food supply's growth is linear. Fun little Malthus reference: remember how in Brave New World, taking care of birth control was referred to as the "Malthusian drill"?
	6:41pm chris: point taken, Handy! :)
	6:42pm Carmichael: To simplify, Chris, "It is what it is".
	6:43pm brainiac: I am sitting in a room
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: For early geeky computer tunes Tellus Music with Memory: www.ubu.com...
	6:44pm spodiodi: i like what we're listening to. chaos is all i see most of the time
	6:44pm yipster: ballad of a thin man is the best geek song
	6:44pm Dean: "To taint his Nobler hart & braine, with needlesse ielousy, And to become the geeke and scorne o'th'others vilany." -- W. Shakespeare Cymbeline (1623) v. v. 161
	6:44pm David in London: FoFo is going to regret missing all this.
	6:44pm Carmichael: @brainiac, save those profound statements for your twitter posts.
	6:45pm chris: thanks, Carm. please be my editor.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: Haha! I like this because it's like my stuff << every artist ever.
	6:45pm forest: https://open.spotify.com/user/juststan/playlist/4PwVA1hIOd6EUDtnzuZZom?si=lNme_hjEQL273MxDOInusg
	🤖 6:45pm Handy Haversack: David, maybe if Ken posts our Frying Overlord, it will summon FoFo to the realm!
	6:46pm Carmichael: Virgule, virgule, virgule ...
	6:46pm forest: ^ken this is for you
	6:47pm yipster: slashslashdothack
	6:47pm Fredericks: Some of this stuff reminds me of the Endless Echo effect GarageBand used to have.
	6:47pm David in London: Handy, Eggtonic!
	6:48pm Dean: According to OED, "nerd" is "mildly derogatory": "An insignificant, foolish, or socially inept person; a person who is boringly conventional or studious. Now also: spec. a person who pursues an unfashionable or highly technical interest with obsessive or exclusive dedication."
	🤖 6:48pm Webhamster Henry: Geek was the freak act in a sideshow who sat in the corner drooling and biting heads off of chickens.
	6:49pm yipster: yeah but isnt that a british nerd?
	🤖 6:49pm Handy Haversack: "Thirteen million Londoners have to wake up to this ..."
	6:49pm Dean: Mark should change the name of the show to Geektonic.
	6:49pm ultradamno: Joe Coleman was the hipster's geek.
	6:49pm Dean: Indeed not! "slang (originally U.S.)."
	6:49pm spodiodi: Webhamster, that's how i learned it first
	6:49pm Carmichael: Geek Tonic.
	🤖 6:49pm Bas NL: Geek Speak - Pamela Z.. check. Awesome!
	🤖 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: At Stop & Shop the other day, I bought six yogurts. At checkout time, it spat out a coupon to save $1.00 on seven yogurts. They're always trying to scam you into buying more.
	6:50pm yipster: Impossible
	6:50pm Dean: Huh, was reading a book about philosophy of knowledge this past weekend in which a robot dog featured in a scenario illustrating a Gettier case.
	6:51pm Fredericks: spod, he's an anti-masker, but I still feel sorry for him. Just like I would for some one who lost their leg after crashing while driving drunk.
	6:51pm ultradamno: Oh, by the way. If any of you haven't watched The Comey Rule, it's as exciting as Chuck Todd doing a recitation of the historical bullet points of the era.
	🤖 6:52pm chresti: I think geek and nerd are interchangeable.
	6:52pm David in London: “Woof, Woof. Hello, I’m Rags.” Woody Allen’s robo dog from Sleeper remains a leading example in the field.
	6:52pm Carmichael: Where does "dork" fit in?
	🤖 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park: I heard of an article that Ford recently rented a couple robot dogs to map one of their factory floors.
	6:52pm spodiodi: i'm too bitter to say anything else (thank goodness, spodi)
	6:52pm Dean: I know that Dean and nerd are interchangeable.
	6:53pm ultradamno: I'm with WH. Geek is a carny employment designation.
	6:53pm brainiac: Who is this guy on the mic?
	6:53pm ultradamno: @carm I think a dork is a nerd with ill fitting pants
	6:54pm David in London: Dorks with Sporks.
	6:54pm Jeff Moore: That's like are hotdogs sandwiches
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: I'm for legs, but not bipedal.
	6:55pm Carmichael: The guy who wrote that is a dork.
	6:55pm Fredericks: I could see them sending the robot dog in to flush people out of a house during a standoff.
	6:55pm spodiodi: hotdogs are robot dorks
	6:55pm Dean: Skiing robots? Robots that take Uber or Lyft? Pogo sticks?
	6:55pm yipster: the legs will work better on stairs i think
	6:55pm Fredericks: Legs better from climbing.
	6:55pm Carmichael: Robot spiders, Henry?
	🤖 6:56pm chresti: Haha spodi
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: Spot can join the WFMU skeleton crew and have an overnight show.
	6:56pm Jeff Moore: Bipedal things are tilty and impractical. Clearly a silly design.
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: @Carmichael as seen in the titles for Jonny Quest.
	🤖 6:56pm Handy Haversack: "Tilty and impractical" is my latest tramp stamp.
	6:57pm spodiodi: self-righting enduro motorcycles are where its at
	6:57pm ultradamno: First example of use in Merriam Webster "I felt like a dork in that sweater." So bad sweaters are also involved
	6:57pm spodiodi: Handy, if i had tea in my mouth when i read that, it'd be on the wall.
	6:57pm Fredericks: Web Ham he'd only play Spotify.
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: @Fredricks so it would!
	6:58pm dale: what about spray cheese? or that spray on hair?
	6:58pm ignatatus666: How does a driverless car take a road test?
	6:58pm Carmichael: My drone-stopper is a pump action 12 gauge.
	6:58pm spodiodi: silly string too, dale
	6:59pm Dean: Earliest illustration in OED of dork: 1961 J. Peacock Valhalla xxi. 340 You satisfy many women with that dorque?
	6:59pm spodiodi: i like how you think, Carmichael
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: Spare the tea and spoil the wall, spod! I use my paddling rescue throw bag to menace drones who buzz us when we canoe in NYC.
	6:59pm chris: thanks, Ken.
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: Thanks Ken!
	6:59pm spodiodi: thanks, SMK. sorry everyone
	🤖 6:59pm chresti: Rich geek toys.
	6:59pm ultradamno: Drone wars. Look forward to that somehow starting a forest fire soon
	6:59pm David in London: Thanks Staysh.
	🤖 6:59pm Webhamster Henry: See ya on Wednesday, Ken!
	🤖 7:00pm chresti: Thanks Ken!
	🤖 7:00pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Ken! I'm going keep letting regular dogs beat me up in preparation for what comes next. Be well, all!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 28, 2020

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Listener comments!
	6:04pm ultradamno: Ken! Techtonation Managers! Oddly, the food is fit to breathe and the air is fit to eat!
	🤖 6:04pm chresti: I'm mad as hell!
	6:04pm Fredericks: My Life Has Value!
	6:05pm listener james from westwood: I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I]M NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANYMORE!
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Techtonic, now with more Staysh! Hello, SMKen. Hello Techyon Drives!
	6:05pm a5vzener: Hey Mark. Anger is GOOD.
	6:05pm listener james from westwood: Anger is an energy!
	6:05pm ultradamno: But I'm only as peeved as heck...
	6:06pm Dean: "Oh wah! Tah goo! Siam!"
	6:06pm brainiac: I opened my window and got ready to yell, but due to the poor air quality, I had to close it again and had a coughing fit.
	6:06pm David in London: Evening Technoids. Greetings Staysh. Handy, ultradamno.
	🤖 6:06pm Handy Haversack: Someone bowdlerized you, ultradamno.
	6:06pm Carmichael: Just don't put up that god damn frying egg and we'll get along just fine.
	6:06pm GListener MW: Welcome, KenTonic!
	6:06pm Ike: Hi. Good to be here. For that matter, good to be anywhere.
	6:06pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	6:06pm chris: hey, Ken and folks. mad as hell. not gonna take it, unless i continue to be disempowered to do anything about it.
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: David, good to see you once again!
	🤖 6:07pm chresti: A break from his raincoat.
	6:07pm ultradamno: @handy It was relatively painless though.
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Get Owl Sun to talk about algorithmic music programming.
	6:08pm iiibeat: I also heard that he masturbates with rubber gloves on!! lol. . JK JK!!
	6:08pm a5vzener: Those darned algorithms are going to be the death of us all.
	6:08pm GListener MW: !!! More like BOOO-tify #BeenSavingThatOne
	6:08pm spodiodi: ahoy-hoy
	6:08pm Carmichael: Let's talk about autotune ...
	6:09pm ultradamno: Article about Spotify's "bizarre" and simultaneously "generic" artists twitter.com...
	6:09pm Dean: The people who run businesses like Spotify sure can be paranoid, selfish, self-important little assholes.
	🤖 6:09pm Handy Haversack: spodiodify!
	6:10pm spodiodi: i'm vaguely dissatisfied. i'll take what's being served.
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: I'm told the cult doc was stretched over way too many episodes.
	6:10pm chris: Mark's newsletter sign up is at the bottom, i believe: creativegood.com...
	6:11pm Carmichael: I've never listened to Spotify, and have no plans to ever do so.
	6:11pm ultradamno: The more I watch The Vow, the more convinced I am the whole thing started as one nerd's aspiration to bang his way through the casts of Smallville and Battlestar Galactica
	6:12pm dale: there's a heartburn med sex cult?
	6:12pm brainiac: You'll save yourself a lot of trouble, Carmichael.
	6:12pm ultradamno: Love Fraud also has the impossible to like anyone involved dynamic at play as well.
	6:12pm Fredericks: Morris interviewed Trump.
	6:14pm ultradamno: Outcry was the earlier Showtime docuseries full of insufferable people.
	🤖 6:14pm Bas NL: Me's late! Hi Ken! Kentechtonicals!
	6:14pm Carmichael: McDonald refuses to participate in the parole process, because that would imply that he is guilty.
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: Spotify holds its algorithms close to its hairless chicken chest.
	6:16pm a5vzener: Absolutely it's the secret sauce.
	6:16pm dale: do they have the secret formula for a.m.coke? that was a big deal for two or three months.
	6:16pm Joe Mulligan: I’d really like to know more about the Spotify algo... they seem to suggest the cheap/unpopular songs. Could that be because they even pay a lower than minuscule royalty for unwanted songs?
	6:17pm David in London: Does anyone remember the documentary The Outsider? About a French man who masqueraded as the kidnapped son of an American family? That was a truly disquieting film.
	6:17pm a5vzener: Spotify benefits from the surveillance capitalism gravity fields of YouTube and Facebook. See the Social Dilemma documentary on Netflix!
	🤖 6:17pm Handy Haversack: I have a sad story about listening to Suzy Hotrod's show at my friend's place in Park Slope but then his partner came back and thought it was too staticky and put on the Spotify Rockabilly channel. And it went from song after song I was discovering to song after song I had heard a thousand times. That's pretty much the story, actually.
	6:17pm spodiodi: Carmichael @611 -- same here. to hell with that crap. WFMU is here
	6:17pm WR: We can talk about Robot Bunny algorithm?
	6:17pm ultradamno: I've noticed the You Tube recs have taken a turn towards political items designed to draw me into a comments flame war.
	6:18pm spodiodi: Handy @617 -- that says it all. sad
	6:19pm dale: i've never tried spotify. pandora is meh. sirius xm is ho hum. a live deejay who can draw lines between the dots in songs is the only way to go.
	6:19pm spodiodi: i have a very difficult topic for this programme (some other time.. can't shake it)
	6:19pm listener james from westwood: That toddler-animation story is ultra-fucked.
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: My YouTube recommendations are just random garbage and stuff they think is popular.
	6:20pm chris: i agree, dale.
	6:21pm yipster: that god i stopped using youtube now i only use jewtube
	6:21pm chris: dump your cookies, too, Ken.
	6:21pm spodiodi: if you search simply for "Y" on YT, light pedo links appear. (or did)
	6:21pm dale: o-TAY!
	6:22pm spodiodi: snap snap
	6:22pm teod: en.wikipedia.org... deals with a netflix programmer bounty for recommending films
	6:22pm ultradamno: The odd thing about it is it's not like I use You Tube to watch crank political stuff, just punk and noise, usually.
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: If it's the Lucy Show where she shoots up a pizza joint that's been trafficking children, you know you're onto something.
	6:23pm dale: he was knifed in a bar i think. sad sh*t.
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: Moe Syzslak killed the original Alfalfa, no?
	6:23pm yipster: lucy drove through the holland tunnel going the wrong way
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: Get Bronwyn C. on the phone for News Of The Dead!
	6:25pm Dean: It's easy enough to change YT settings to eliminate recs. It's kinda fun to see what gets treated as average, what YT imagines we average schmucks care about.
	🤖 6:25pm Wendy del Formaggio: Last year I discovered that with Firefox (the browser I use), you can download an add-on that removes You Tube comments. You never have to see them! It's pretty excellent.
	6:25pm spodiodi: nice one, Wendy
	6:26pm johnzo: now i wanna hear ken's tsunami footage recommendations. or how about avalanche footage... mudslide?
	6:26pm a5vzener: Just search for "AK-47" in the YouTube search bar.
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: I have a test account on Facebook that I don't use, and it emails me every day with suggestions for groups they hope it will sign up for.
	🤖 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi. You logged out of YT, you say? If there's no one logged in, maybe you gt random selections every time. You might need to create an ID and log into that and then run the experiment.
	🤖 6:27pm Wendy del Formaggio: @spodiodi: It IS a nice one. I recommend it to everyone, especially if you loathe social media trolls.
	6:27pm Dean: I'll stick with Ian Astbury as my favorite cult leader.
	6:27pm spodiodi: there was a troll in here recently who posted a link and disguised it as being anti-shithead, when it was indeed a shithead-produced content made to generate $ for the orange dumpster fire. i wanted to warn everyone but didn't want to give the troll any recognition. i hope n one else clicked it though
	6:29pm chris: spodi, you can email the dj, or Ken, and they will remove the comment. that way, no trolls are fed, only silenced.
	6:30pm spodiodi: it never occurred to me to look, Wendy, but that makes perfect sense. my favorite firefox add-ons are Ghostery and Styleus
	6:30pm Patty D: I use the fmu app whenever Shazam doesnt get it.
	6:31pm yipster: why is the tallest unicycle in the world so much taller than the tallest bicycle in the world?
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: Sometimes Shazam does pick up a lot of foreign language FMU cuts!
	6:31pm spodiodi: thanks, chris -- i kinda knew but never have. it delights me when they vanish. i want to tell each and every one of them what i think, but that's what they want, so i keep it zipped. i always figure the board-op will get it before i can do what you've mentioned
	🤖 6:31pm Wendy del Formaggio: @spodiodi: Looking up your recommended add-ons now...
	6:32pm ultradamno: I like the Netflix recs, because they advance them as very scientific with a percentage of accuracy and all, and it's always whatever is new that they're pushing.
	6:32pm Dean: My source for recommendations is Fanfare magazine, a bimonthly 500-600 page-per-issue, tiny margins, few images, consisting of reviews of new classical recordings and interviews with the artists. I do not find that the content grows more extreme from issue to issue.
	6:32pm WR: I protest. Mark Hurst is nothing like the character Beale in network.
	6:32pm Mennlinn Rebarts: Shazam uses your microphone buffer. It works so quickly because there is always an amount of audio recorded on your phone.
	6:32pm Rob W: Shazam can't recognize vinyl - that's one big reason a lot WFMU tracks won't come up, I think.
	6:33pm ultradamno: @WR I know I've seen a picture of Mark looking that sweaty.
	6:33pm spodiodi: Mennlinn -- that is wack. had no idea. paranoid about everything like that though
	6:34pm Listener Robert: Neilsen still uses diaries. I know because I'm doing the Neilsen for radio this week.
	6:34pm Fredericks: I can't find "Styleus," spodiodi.
	6:34pm WR: Last year i got an Arbitron diary offer last year, it had gone into the junk mail pile and so did not reply in time.
	6:34pm teod: Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
	6:34pm Syl: No, that's Maslow's hierarchy of needs
	6:34pm Jeff Moore: That was Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
	6:35pm Fredericks: Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: Shazam uses a fingerprint of the audio so that distortion doesn't confuse it. That is probably a key made out of compressed vectorized audio spectral frames. Then there's a killer index of these keys.
	6:35pm spodiodi: Fredericks: addons.mozilla.org...
	6:35pm Mennlinn Rebarts: @spodiodi Well, I like how shazam uses it, but there are tons of aps that are using it to exploit users. Extremely whack
	6:36pm brainiac: Who the hell is this guy on the phone?
	6:36pm dale: trump is cornering the market on the machines that do the die cut between tp sheets.
	6:36pm spodiodi: i tell maskless ppl to love themselves
	6:36pm spodiodi: a shithead
	6:36pm ultradamno: Oh, he's thinks he's reasonable. Ugh.
	6:37pm Fredericks: Nice. Thanks, spoliodi.
	6:37pm spodiodi: yeah -- middle finger to you, caller. **==
	6:37pm a5vzener: It's all about him.
	6:37pm Rob W: @ Webhamster Henry - yes, I in fact I use Shazam quite often to ID tracks from the area Indian radio station (1600 AM) - they don't put their playlist online but the music is all digital. I also recently used it to ID an Uzbek song that was playing in the Brighton Beach parking lot, stuff like that - quite handy for international stuff!
	6:37pm a5vzener: turd
	6:37pm Fredericks: Does this guy drink and drive, too?
	6:37pm spodiodi: sure thing, Frdericks
	🤖 6:37pm Handy Haversack: I haven't watched anything on YouTube in two years, I think. Never had Netflix,Spotify, any of those.
	🤖 6:37pm Webhamster Henry: There ya go - endorsed by Rob!
	6:37pm Mennlinn Rebarts: I hope this guy is a put on, but there are too many people like this.
	6:38pm spodiodi: idiot
	6:38pm brainiac: When they were talking about ratings methods, I thought I heard him say, "When I was a kid I asked my dog, how..."?
	6:38pm Fredericks: I know a 40 year old guy who now has a pacemaker due to Covid.
	6:38pm spodiodi: this guy is what brings my murderous rage right to the surface
	6:38pm goes211: Dump button.
	6:38pm ultradamno: The wedding invitation that forbade masks because they wanted "to see everyone's beautiful mouths' Darwin Award hopefuls twitter.com...
	6:38pm spodiodi: (like nothing else)
	6:38pm Jeff Moore: B'bye.
	6:39pm David in London: Brainiac. I heard that too. Is he Son of Sam?
	6:39pm yipster: are antimaskers gonna wear masks on halloween?
	6:39pm chris: epistemologically, yes, there is no Truth (capital T), but there is always an experiential truth. regardless, outside a philosophical discussion, of course truth is truth. wanker.
	6:40pm Smokestack: That escalated quickly. Bye bye, dude.
	🤖 6:40pm Handy Haversack: You can do hermeneutic exegesis of asswipes all day long, and in every interpretation, you'll find you're still dealing with an asswipe.
	6:40pm a5vzener: Sue Spotify! Yummy! Yummy!
	6:41pm spodiodi: Fredericks, man.... man. poor guy. sigh
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: "The Mainspring of this country - wound up as tight as it is - is guaranteed for the life of the watch" -- The President, We're All Bozos On This Bus
	6:41pm Jeff Moore: Thomas Robert Malthus is known for coming up (in the late 1700s) with the notion that population grows exponentially but the food supply's growth is linear. Fun little Malthus reference: remember how in Brave New World, taking care of birth control was referred to as the "Malthusian drill"?
	6:41pm chris: point taken, Handy! :)
	6:42pm Carmichael: To simplify, Chris, "It is what it is".
	6:43pm brainiac: I am sitting in a room
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: For early geeky computer tunes Tellus Music with Memory: www.ubu.com...
	6:44pm spodiodi: i like what we're listening to. chaos is all i see most of the time
	6:44pm yipster: ballad of a thin man is the best geek song
	6:44pm Dean: "To taint his Nobler hart & braine, with needlesse ielousy, And to become the geeke and scorne o'th'others vilany." -- W. Shakespeare Cymbeline (1623) v. v. 161
	6:44pm David in London: FoFo is going to regret missing all this.
	6:44pm Carmichael: @brainiac, save those profound statements for your twitter posts.
	6:45pm chris: thanks, Carm. please be my editor.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: Haha! I like this because it's like my stuff << every artist ever.
	6:45pm forest: https://open.spotify.com/user/juststan/playlist/4PwVA1hIOd6EUDtnzuZZom?si=lNme_hjEQL273MxDOInusg
	🤖 6:45pm Handy Haversack: David, maybe if Ken posts our Frying Overlord, it will summon FoFo to the realm!
	6:46pm Carmichael: Virgule, virgule, virgule ...
	6:46pm forest: ^ken this is for you
	6:47pm yipster: slashslashdothack
	6:47pm Fredericks: Some of this stuff reminds me of the Endless Echo effect GarageBand used to have.
	6:47pm David in London: Handy, Eggtonic!
	6:48pm Dean: According to OED, "nerd" is "mildly derogatory": "An insignificant, foolish, or socially inept person; a person who is boringly conventional or studious. Now also: spec. a person who pursues an unfashionable or highly technical interest with obsessive or exclusive dedication."
	🤖 6:48pm Webhamster Henry: Geek was the freak act in a sideshow who sat in the corner drooling and biting heads off of chickens.
	6:49pm yipster: yeah but isnt that a british nerd?
	🤖 6:49pm Handy Haversack: "Thirteen million Londoners have to wake up to this ..."
	6:49pm Dean: Mark should change the name of the show to Geektonic.
	6:49pm ultradamno: Joe Coleman was the hipster's geek.
	6:49pm Dean: Indeed not! "slang (originally U.S.)."
	6:49pm spodiodi: Webhamster, that's how i learned it first
	6:49pm Carmichael: Geek Tonic.
	🤖 6:49pm Bas NL: Geek Speak - Pamela Z.. check. Awesome!
	🤖 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: At Stop & Shop the other day, I bought six yogurts. At checkout time, it spat out a coupon to save $1.00 on seven yogurts. They're always trying to scam you into buying more.
	6:50pm yipster: Impossible
	6:50pm Dean: Huh, was reading a book about philosophy of knowledge this past weekend in which a robot dog featured in a scenario illustrating a Gettier case.
	6:51pm Fredericks: spod, he's an anti-masker, but I still feel sorry for him. Just like I would for some one who lost their leg after crashing while driving drunk.
	6:51pm ultradamno: Oh, by the way. If any of you haven't watched The Comey Rule, it's as exciting as Chuck Todd doing a recitation of the historical bullet points of the era.
	🤖 6:52pm chresti: I think geek and nerd are interchangeable.
	6:52pm David in London: “Woof, Woof. Hello, I’m Rags.” Woody Allen’s robo dog from Sleeper remains a leading example in the field.
	6:52pm Carmichael: Where does "dork" fit in?
	🤖 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park: I heard of an article that Ford recently rented a couple robot dogs to map one of their factory floors.
	6:52pm spodiodi: i'm too bitter to say anything else (thank goodness, spodi)
	6:52pm Dean: I know that Dean and nerd are interchangeable.
	6:53pm ultradamno: I'm with WH. Geek is a carny employment designation.
	6:53pm brainiac: Who is this guy on the mic?
	6:53pm ultradamno: @carm I think a dork is a nerd with ill fitting pants
	6:54pm David in London: Dorks with Sporks.
	6:54pm Jeff Moore: That's like are hotdogs sandwiches
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: I'm for legs, but not bipedal.
	6:55pm Carmichael: The guy who wrote that is a dork.
	6:55pm Fredericks: I could see them sending the robot dog in to flush people out of a house during a standoff.
	6:55pm spodiodi: hotdogs are robot dorks
	6:55pm Dean: Skiing robots? Robots that take Uber or Lyft? Pogo sticks?
	6:55pm yipster: the legs will work better on stairs i think
	6:55pm Fredericks: Legs better from climbing.
	6:55pm Carmichael: Robot spiders, Henry?
	🤖 6:56pm chresti: Haha spodi
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: Spot can join the WFMU skeleton crew and have an overnight show.
	6:56pm Jeff Moore: Bipedal things are tilty and impractical. Clearly a silly design.
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: @Carmichael as seen in the titles for Jonny Quest.
	🤖 6:56pm Handy Haversack: "Tilty and impractical" is my latest tramp stamp.
	6:57pm spodiodi: self-righting enduro motorcycles are where its at
	6:57pm ultradamno: First example of use in Merriam Webster "I felt like a dork in that sweater." So bad sweaters are also involved
	6:57pm spodiodi: Handy, if i had tea in my mouth when i read that, it'd be on the wall.
	6:57pm Fredericks: Web Ham he'd only play Spotify.
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: @Fredricks so it would!
	6:58pm dale: what about spray cheese? or that spray on hair?
	6:58pm ignatatus666: How does a driverless car take a road test?
	6:58pm Carmichael: My drone-stopper is a pump action 12 gauge.
	6:58pm spodiodi: silly string too, dale
	6:59pm Dean: Earliest illustration in OED of dork: 1961 J. Peacock Valhalla xxi. 340 You satisfy many women with that dorque?
	6:59pm spodiodi: i like how you think, Carmichael
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: Spare the tea and spoil the wall, spod! I use my paddling rescue throw bag to menace drones who buzz us when we canoe in NYC.
	6:59pm chris: thanks, Ken.
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: Thanks Ken!
	6:59pm spodiodi: thanks, SMK. sorry everyone
	🤖 6:59pm chresti: Rich geek toys.
	6:59pm ultradamno: Drone wars. Look forward to that somehow starting a forest fire soon
	6:59pm David in London: Thanks Staysh.
	🤖 6:59pm Webhamster Henry: See ya on Wednesday, Ken!
	🤖 7:00pm chresti: Thanks Ken!
	🤖 7:00pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Ken! I'm going keep letting regular dogs beat me up in preparation for what comes next. Be well, all!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 28, 2020

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