WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from August 2, 2020

Listener comments!
	🥁 8:58am DJpeterDE: I'm in! Waiting to get OUT!
	8:59am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @DJpeterDE!
	🥁 9:01am hyde: hello!
	9:01am fred: Good morning Jeff and listeners
	🥁 9:02am DJpeterDE: Is the regular GTD stream "playlisted"? Would like to track down the track playing a moment ago.
	🥁 9:02am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Opening theme trax don't stay preclicked ...discuss.
	9:03am alanr: My morning exercises get confused while using this music as background! lol
	9:03am Jeff Golick: Hi hi hi, @hyde! Greetings, @fred! @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 in the house!
	9:03am Sem: Hello, Jeff the G, D:O-ers, and first timers, old-timers, egg timers, and compulsive rhymers.
	🥁 9:04am Doug Schulkind: The Perfect (radio show), man.
	9:05am StringOFperils: Hi< I'm in for the OUT. Good morning!
	🥁 9:06am doctorjazz: Hello, outer limits dwellers!
	🥁 9:07am Listener Gregory: Good morning all. I'm on vacation, so I don't have to listen today.
	🥁 9:07am doctorjazz: Rev, don't know why, the opening tracks do stay starred in my phone.
	9:09am Jeff Golick: @alanr! I'm confused by the idea of morning exercises, so it would that etc etc. @Sem! @Doug "Too Kind" Schulkind! @StringOFperils! @doctorjazz! Take a load off (yr ears), @Listener Gregory!
	🥁 9:09am doctorjazz: I thought for a second the artists make was a radio station call letters ('Wonderful KMRU....)
	🥁 9:10am doctorjazz: (Artists name...)
	9:11am northguineahills: Jeff, Checking out of my hotel, will be listening!
	9:12am Jeff Golick: Hey, @northguineahills! Where you at? Where you going?
	🥁 9:13am DJpeterDE: @Doug is there an automated playlist that records the GTD stream?
	9:14am northguineahills: Just moved back to Orlando, need to find an extended stay hotel until I get paid for my job, that starts, Monday, then, after getting paid, I can get my own flat....
	9:15am Jeff Golick: Oh, yeah, @DJpeterDE, there is indeed a master playlist...I'll try to find the link. (It's at the bottom of the daily email, if you get the GTDR missive.)
	9:22am Jeff Golick: www.onlineradiobox.com... <---- try this @DJpeterDE.
	🥁 9:23am doctorjazz: onlineradiobox.com... Here is the link.
	9:24am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @doc!
	9:24am Jeff Golick: @ngh: Orlando! Congrats on the gig; please stay safe!
	🥁 9:24am doctorjazz: The miss on this is odd...the orchestra sounds so distant, the piano was so front and center.
	🥁 9:25am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Conga
	🥁 9:25am doctorjazz: The mix, that is...typo 2 in 10 minutes.
	🥁 9:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...* is most impressive...
	🥁 9:30am hyde: i've decide that i hate cutting up bell peppers. someone needs to breed a square bell pepper to appease me
	9:30am Jeff Golick: Are you counting this, @doc?
	🥁 9:30am DJpeterDE: Thanks @doc & @doug for the link. Will have to check out Dana Gillespie!
	🥁 9:31am DJpeterDE: Has anyone seen Tapscott live? Hungry for anecdotes!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: @hyde: well, there are square watermelons, so anything's possible. www.whataboutwatermelon.com...
	9:32am Jeff Golick: (@DJpeter: I was also enjoying the Dana Gillespie, and was hoping it could end properly before the show began.)
	🥁 9:33am hyde: @jg yes! now i just need to lobby Big Vegetable on this front
	🥁 9:34am duke: hello Jeff and Out There folks
	9:35am Jeff Golick: Hale fellow, well met, @duke!
	🥁 9:37am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: As a 'Monster Kid' have 'checked out' Dana in B-Movies. She fills the screen so to speak...pals with Bowie apparently the jammy bastard.
	9:40am DJpeterDE: Is devin gray the Diego rataplan guy?
	9:41am Jeff Golick: Yes he is!
	🥁 9:42am Listener Gregory: I don't think bell peppers are the most objectionable vegetables. At least they're very easy to cut.
	🥁 9:42am Listener Gregory: Every time I hear Horace Tapscott, I am surprised that it is so good and wonder how I missed him at the time.
	9:43am DJpeterDE: What you really want is not a Square pepper, but a flat sheet
	🥁 9:44am doctorjazz: Loving this set (often don't wake early enough for the opening set).
	🥁 9:46am Listener Gregory: I have the Previte/Saft/Cline record and felt that individual cuts were fine, but the entire CD was a much of a muchness.
	🥁 9:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting sonics. Reminds me of Japanese monster movies...always a plus in my book!...
	🥁 9:47am Listener Gregory: Excuse my music theory terminology!
	9:47am DJpeterDE: They belong on 78s, @LG
	9:48am Jeff Golick: Glad you're here for it, @doc! @LG: I get where you're coming from.
	🥁 9:48am doctorjazz: LG, I think he was missed by most folks at the time. In fact, when I first heard about of him, maybe in the 90s, I think there were only 2 CDs available that I found (The Dark Tree v1 and 2)
	9:48am DJpeterDE: Like, the teddy Wilson mosaic box is amazing in small doses but too much ness
	🥁 9:49am hyde: this show is so hot my computer just crashed
	9:51am Jeff Golick: Oh dear, @hyde.
	🥁 9:51am doctorjazz: Interesting, LG, Saft, Cline, Previte are among my favorite players (but Cline can get really deep into his computer/electronic sounds.. Saft as well, for that matter).
	🥁 9:53am doctorjazz: Now, the Threadgill Sextett is yup there in the pantheon, as far as I'm concerned! THIS IS GREAT!!!!
	🥁 9:53am hyde: yeah, this is a fantastic record
	9:54am DJpeterDE: I’m guessing this title was inspired by a painting
	9:56am Jeff Golick: I do think of this painting -- en.wikipedia.org... -- though it does not depict a suicide.
	9:56am DJpeterDE: Yup. Or Socrates, which is not at the Baths or maybe it is?
	10:01am Stork: Hey all. Just poppoing in to hear the Threadgill. Sweet Sunday!!
	10:03am DJpeterDE: Yes, my understanding Is that the last T is for the seventh musician. He called it a sextet because there were six instruments (vs seven musicians).
	10:04am Linda Lee: good morning, darn it! :-)
	10:04am DJpeterDE: I was struck that Johnathan Blake introduced himself (jazz gallery stream Thursday) as playing “drums and cymbals.” Two sets of instruments?
	🥁 10:04am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: T for Two ...myself I need to man the French press I believe...
	10:05am Linda Lee: sure, i can see drums & cymbals as different instruments, often put together in a kit, but not always.
	10:06am Uncle Michael: it's unseasonably gorgeous here in Kansas. I'm out in the yard picking up debris.
	🥁 10:06am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Trap set does mean contraption... There's a good cartoon in there with dueling remotes...
	10:07am DJpeterDE: @Linda often drummers on tour bring their own cymbals but rent the drums
	10:07am Linda Lee: really! didn't know that!
	10:07am DJpeterDE: @RevRab I didn’t know that and it’s awesome!
	10:08am Linda Lee: always something to learn at D:O :-)
	🥁 10:08am doctorjazz: A review of the Threadgill Sextett in the Times at the time... THE POP LIFE; THE THREADGILL SEXTET AND ITS NARRATIVE FLAIR nyti.ms... They agree with the 2 drummer counting as 1 (I have a vague memory of him saying somewhere that it was also marketing-it got noticed and talked about. Much the way Sex Mob was a name that you noticed)
	🥁 10:09am doctorjazz: Big Garchik fan, this doesn't disappoint!
	🥁 10:10am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think of an orchestra: Timpani, snare, cymbal...a set sits them in front of one person. Most Traditions throughout the world it's one person one drum...
	🥁 10:11am Listener Gregory: Jeff, just remember that, as Paul Simon said, one man's remote control is another man's ceiling. (or person's)
	🥁 10:13am Listener Gregory: @DJPeter & Linda Lee, I once went to a small gig where the drummer had no cymbals. It turned out that he expected to find a drumset already there, but it didn't include cymbals, because they're too easily stolen, so he had to play without them. Sadly, I didn't even notice until the band mentioned it.
	10:13am Stork: Oh yeah!! Amy Denio and band! Love th Billy Tipton project!!
	🥁 10:13am Listener Gregory: Gotta run, people. Keep up the good work, Jeff.
	10:15am Linda Lee: so, online discourse: i've just been asked to prove an assertion i've never even mentioned. somehow, because of things i've actually said, it's assumed i hold a whole universe of beliefs that have nothing to do with me. isn't this weird?
	🥁 10:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Drummers have it rough with all that stuff!
	10:15am Jeff Golick: Bybe, @LG! Thanks and take care! And hellos to all coming through -- @Stork! & @Linda Lee!
	10:15am Linda Lee: don't mean to get into debate here. i just find this a funny phenomenon. i think that's called prejudice. pre-judgement.
	10:16am Linda Lee: hi Jeff!! love the sounds! thank you!
	10:18am DJpeterDE: @linda fascinating. I’d be curious to know if a good reader would be able to anticipate my positions on future issues
	10:18am DJpeterDE: This person obviously not a good reader
	10:18am Linda Lee: ho! yeah! :-)
	🥁 10:18am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: On fb Linda? Sounds like a Straw Man case? Bring your own enemy with you to attack...
	10:19am Linda Lee: thanks, Rev! yes!
	🥁 10:19am hyde: that sure sounds like online discourse
	10:19am DJpeterDE: @stork listened to J Bracken show afterward, A-1!
	10:19am Linda Lee: hahah!! ain't it though.
	10:20am Linda Lee: have i mentioned how much i love the fmu comments board? :-)
	10:20am DJpeterDE: I guess this set is making up for the extra Threadgill drummer
	🥁 10:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I slipped a discourse & haven't even been able to stand up straight for a week online...
	🥁 10:22am doctorjazz: The Saxhouse link didn't work on my phone... tiptonssaxquartet.bandcamp.com...
	🥁 10:23am doctorjazz: "We don't need no STINKIN' rhythm section!"
	10:24am Jeff Golick: Ooops - thanks, @doc. HTML typo, now fixed.
	10:24am Stork: We're having good sax, Jeff! Dr. Ruth would be groovin'.
	10:24am Jeff Golick: The Tipton group often has drums underneath; it was a little harder finding something without.
	10:24am Linda Lee: sounds like a good idea to sit it out for a while, Rev. btw, my rabbits aren't out on the lawn today. rain!
	10:26am Linda Lee: there's a tiny one this year you could hold in your palm i worry about the hawks that live in our trees. so far so good, though!
	10:27am Linda Lee: oh no! no period!
	🥁 10:28am doctorjazz: ROVA, also a fav (they don't improvise, all composed through-i asked Larry Ochs at a house concert he gave with Nels Cline and Gerald Cleaver, who did nothing BUT improvise.)
	🥁 10:31am chresti: Morning Jeff and D outers!
	10:31am Jeff Golick: Hey, @chresti!
	10:33am Linda Lee: hi chresti!
	10:33am Linda Lee: man! if there's a sound to the way i wake up these days, this is it.
	10:34am Linda Lee: it's brilliant.
	🥁 10:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Find I'm often thinking of Mingus. He occupies such an interesting place in it all...
	10:38am Jeff Golick: Here's the twitter thread I mentioned earlier, re Garchik's new album and his compositional "rules": twitter.com...
	10:38am Linda Lee: the westerlies' track works so well with this underlying steady rain falling through the pines.
	🥁 10:39am doctorjazz: Got up out of bed, put on main system (still headphones), lay down on the couch. Man, this is gorgeous-great set (again). (Rough life here in the burbs...)
	10:40am Artie: There’s just something so English about these horns.
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Artie!
	10:41am Linda Lee: it's tough here in the country too, doctor j!
	🥁 10:42am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh hey he mentions Mingus... Baroque horn timbers are very Sunday after all right? Or what once might have been Sunday...
	🥁 10:43am doctorjazz: Man, Garchick, Westerlies, Billy Tipton, gotta stop following those links.
	🥁 10:44am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): Hopping into the stream with a hearty hello to Jeff and all destined for OUT!
	10:44am Linda Lee: Granny! hi!
	10:45am Jeff Golick: Yo, @Granny Spicy Tuna!
	🥁 10:46am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *timbres ...since they are made of brass not wood :) ...
	10:49am northguineahills: Sorry, was getting pre-business schiitdt done at the hotel office. Gotta pack and run! will listen in the car. Godsonicspeed, Jeff!
	10:49am DJpeterDE: @doc I believe Rova combined improv and composition. They are not fully notated, although perhaps a given piece might be. And they seem to eschew free improv
	10:51am Linda Lee: is it Godlen Gate really?
	10:52am northguineahills: wait is, DJ peter in Deutschland, or Deleware?
	10:52am Jeff Golick: Safe travels, @ngh! (It's Delaware.)
	10:53am northguineahills: errr, Delaware....
	10:53am Stork: Delaware ngh. But he's welcome over here.
	🥁 10:54am hyde: @ngh haha, i thought it was Deutschland for a loooong time
	10:56am Stork: @DJpeter re: Joanne Brackeen: If was a preacher-man-type, I would be out declaiming the name of Joanne Brackeen. That was a really satisfying experience - 4.5 hours of her oevre. Glad u checked it.
	🥁 10:56am Doug Schulkind: I like that.
	10:56am Stork: Jeff, that set was magically delicious!
	10:57am StringOFperils: Amazing show. Stating the obvious, I know......not to mention thinking out loud. Sheesh!
	🥁 10:57am doctorjazz: @DJpetetDE-that's what I would have thought, but when I asked Larry Ochs, he told me every note ROVA played was composed (which is why he so enjoyed playing with Cline and Cleaver). Of course, artists aren't always 100% honest when it comes to "making the sausage".
	🥁 10:57am hyde: a two week break? i don't remember approving that
	10:57am Linda Lee: but was it Godlen Gate..?? i must know.
	🥁 10:58am doctorjazz: That Garchik Twitter post was interesting.
	10:58am Linda Lee: i'm startin to think the more apt term is 'antisocial media'.
	10:59am Linda Lee: duelling echo chambers! what a headache!
	11:00am northguineahills: uhmmm, i was just on a whole hilarious 'anti-social' media last night, LL made me LoLed!
	11:00am Linda Lee: you LoLed!! good for you, ngh!
	🥁 11:01am doctorjazz: I had to get that Garchik album when it came out k The Athiest Gospel Trombone Album), bought it for the title, stayed for the music.
	11:01am Linda Lee: the rain's on the way to you right now, Jeff. any minute now.
	11:01am northguineahills: moving, during a tropical storm, so, far, just strong T-storms...
	🥁 11:02am doctorjazz: Just clearing here in Central Joisey, sun peeking out.
	11:02am northguineahills: (Linda Out Lee) (wish that was your middle name)
	11:03am Linda Lee: i'm not sure there's anything quite like having shelter in a storm. Linda Obvious Lee might work too.
	🥁 11:03am DJpeterDE: @Doc re ROVA: okay then. @Stork agree that J. Brackeen is underrated. I'm not sure when she and Charles Brackeen split? But fascinating that Brackeen almost never recorded with a piano.
	11:03am northguineahills: (Oletta, or olenna?)
	11:04am StringOFperils: Quite gray and rainy here today, all day. Looking out the windows is terrarium-like. Nursing my old cat through her final days...seems sombre, but the D:O anodyne is killin' the pain
	11:04am Linda Lee: maybe Linda Outrageous Lee.
	11:05am Linda Lee: @StringOFperils ~ i'm so sorry to hear of your friend's passage. these last days are tough. hoping she's comfy.
	11:05am Stork: Sorry about your cat, SOp. Been there.
	11:06am Linda Lee: they do the transition so much more easily than we do, if we let them. they often need help, but not always.
	🥁 11:06am DJpeterDE: @Jeff here's what I've found about Dana Gillespie -- many many "blues" albums. "Lovin' Machine" was on "Below the Belt" but also a compilation "Hot Stuff." But I'm more curious about "Belt" because I want to know if that crazy guitar is throughout. Discogs says guitarist is Sam Mitchell and his own albums suggest he saw himself as a bottleneck blues player, not an avant-gardist, but to me he sounded like he was straining to stay IN
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Yeah, so sorry to hear ; that's never easy, @StringOFperils.
	🥁 11:07am DJpeterDE: @String, I've been there too. Terrible terrible time. Well, joyful and beautiful too, until the very end.
	🥁 11:08am hyde: @String I've done that too and it's no fun. Good luck
	🥁 11:12am doctorjazz: Sorry to hear that String! Have done that with dogs, very sad
	11:14am Uncle Michael: Any time I hear a guitar through an envelope follower, I momentarily wonder if I'm hearing Jerry Garcia...and he only used one on a couple of songs.
	11:14am northguineahills: @SoP: I rescued a cat that I found during a college job. I lived until 23 and I nursed it's last few years. My parents took care of it the 16 years I was in NYC, as I didn't know if having a pet would be an impediment to signing a lease. I got to spend the last 2 years w/ her.
	11:15am StringOFperils: Thank you for all the commiseration. Yeah, it's a drag, but she's being quite a trooper for somebody who's kidneys are shot. Long weekend here, so...probably Monday night. Unless it happens quietly.
	11:15am northguineahills: found rhe cat in a litter of newborn kittens behind a dumpster, I got the other kitties adopted.
	11:15am Jeff Golick: Belated HBD to Jerry, @UM.
	11:15am Linda Lee: @Uncle Michael ~ he definitely comes to mind with that sound, for sure.
	11:15am Uncle Michael: Jerry sez 'thanks, Jeff'.
	🥁 11:15am DJpeterDE: @Uncle thanks for that mention as I've now learned the difference between wah-wah and envelope follower
	11:16am StringOFperils: *whose
	11:16am northguineahills: Been missing you UM, been, uhh, busy lately...
	11:16am Linda Lee: may her way be easy! they are really tough, aren't they.
	11:17am Uncle Michael: Hey, NGH! good to see you. Good to hear you're busy!
	11:17am Uncle Michael: Sorry about your kitty, SoP.
	11:18am Linda Lee: darn littlle heartbreakers, they are ~ but such a joy to be with while we can.
	🥁 11:18am doctorjazz: Still don't know what an envelope follower is, picture myself waiting for an important letter at the mail box. Still practicing my slow shuffle-dance for the upcoming Dead Dance Party.
	11:18am Uncle Michael: Jerry using an envelope follower most famously on Estimated Prophet. Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians' one hit featured one as well.
	🥁 11:19am DJpeterDE: en.wikipedia.org...
	🥁 11:19am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Overly fond of my wah wah ...follower does it all for you...not my fave Jerry tone honestly - but people go all Pavlov they hear one like it's some amazing thing... Urrm ok - there's more than one Dana Gillespie in history. Noted...
	🥁 11:20am DJpeterDE: Really love the Joe Farrell CTI's. Probably my favorite CTI's actually.
	🥁 11:21am doctorjazz: It doesn't sound like the typical CTI.
	11:21am Jeff Golick: It's not a label I know well at all. Just dipping in, really.
	11:21am Uncle Michael: Is there a bad release from CTI?
	🥁 11:21am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): enjoying this set!
	11:22am Jeff Golick: Here comes Jack.
	🥁 11:22am doctorjazz: Man, that bass (Stanley Clark)!
	🥁 11:23am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): StringOFperils: sending love and scritches to your furry one. i love my kitties.
	🥁 11:23am DJpeterDE: The Joe Farrell's are the most "out" (a la Corea-Holland-DeJohnette). Most CTI's are very slick and produced
	11:24am StringOFperils: There is no Envelope Follower on CTI.
	🥁 11:25am doctorjazz: Discogs lists 2,301 CTI records, so I probably should avoid generalizing.
	11:26am StringOFperils: Actually interesting to know that, dr. jazz. I had wondered how many CTI releases were created.
	🥁 11:27am hyde: if there are 2301, i bet there's a bad one in there somewhere
	11:28am Uncle Michael: Yep. Probably.
	11:28am Jeff Golick: That number seems high to me; I wonder if re-issues are included in that count.
	11:28am northguineahills: Most people forget Stanley Clark did amazing music (not his soft jazz, and soft jazz sometimes works).
	🥁 11:28am doctorjazz: Jim Hall's Concierto is one I saw quickly that I really like, quite a few others there that are terrific. Theme Here reminds of Space Is The Place
	11:29am northguineahills: sounds like space is the place....
	11:30am Dean: I think it's fair to generalize, doctorjazz. CTI was known for a distinctive house sound, particularly during the later years, but there were enough exceptions to keep listeners on our toes. Primarily, though, CTI was famous for is cover designs. I noted last week on Stork's comment board, during the Joanne Brackeen sets, that the Tappan Zee label, a Columbia imprint, shared the same designer. Seeing a Brackeen LP cover on Tappan Zee, you'd think you were seeing a CTI. Turns out Bob James started TZ. I wonder whether that's the only connection.
	🥁 11:30am DJpeterDE: @Doc there's generalizing, and then there's "house sound" or "brand identity"
	11:30am Dean: No, DJpeterDE and I did not coordinate our comments.
	🥁 11:31am WR: Hi Jeff and D:O aficionados. Good day to you all. Have been listening since the mic break at 10AM ET. Great music. Thank you. Busy chore day. Laters all y'all.
	🥁 11:31am DJpeterDE: No we didn't! But grateful to Dean for the art direction comment
	11:34am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @Dean! And good day to you, @WR!
	11:34am Dean: For example, compare this: https://www.discogs.com/Wilbert-Longmire-Sunny-Side-Up/release/8756325 -- with this: https://www.discogs.com/Bob-James-Lucky-Seven/master/43686 -- or this: https://www.discogs.com/Bob-James-Earl-Klugh-One-On-One/master/43719 -- with this: https://www.discogs.com/Joanne-Brackeen-Ancient-Dynasty/master/715911
	11:36am Linda Lee: ah. this one recalls the no wave paradise of my lost youth.
	🥁 11:36am DJpeterDE: Awesome, Dean! Also, I think CTI (like Impulse!) always did the gatefold thing.
	11:36am northguineahills: Very Sharrockish!
	🥁 11:38am doctorjazz: It IS Sharrick-like...not a bad thing.
	11:42am Dean: That seems right, too, all/mostly gatefold LPs. Looks like the catalog is so extensive due to various media issues and re-issues, as Jeff G. suggests, but also to 7" issues when the label was an imprint of A&M.
	🥁 11:42am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All I want is a rhythm section to indulge me like this! ...& worry about who else can get to it later...
	11:43am Jeff Golick: Let's face it: Creed Taylor knew how to spend money. Also: make money.
	11:43am Linda Lee: where's Lydia Lunch when we need her?
	11:44am Jeff Golick: She's living a few block away from me!
	🥁 11:44am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): Ahhh! she's right behind yoooou!
	11:44am Linda Lee: in Brooklyn, Jeff? is she still working?
	🥁 11:45am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ....tell me more...
	11:46am Linda Lee: i liked the cookie poets for sure!
	11:47am Linda Lee: liked the roots magic a lot too!
	🥁 11:48am DJpeterDE: @Jeff would still love to hear Kalapursha show but don't want you to feel guilty about it
	11:49am Dean: The designer of the Moon Germs cover was not the designer who established the label's visual house style of later renown.
	🥁 11:49am chresti: Hi Linda!
	11:49am Linda Lee: how are you chresti?
	🥁 11:50am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff!
	11:51am Jeff Golick: HEY! Stay tuned for Stork! He ist here: wfmu.org...
	🥁 11:52am chresti: Slowly waking up, about to have more coffee, how are you?
	🥁 11:52am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): thanks, Jeff! See you all in the Stork Club in a few, I gotta slop the cats.
	🥁 11:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Spooky. Green always had the spooky.
	11:53am Linda Lee: i'm fine! thank you! dressing up for the stork club. clean pajamas. :-)
	11:54am Linda Lee: relatively..
	11:54am Jeff Golick: Not to worry, @DJpeterDE. I like an assignment. Lydia is still working, yes! She was still touring in the early COVID days, to such an extent that my friend from whom she is renting her apt. was kind of worried about her.
	11:55am Linda Lee: still working! good!
	11:55am StringOFperils: D:O much appreciated !! See ya later....
	🥁 11:56am Doug Schulkind: You're a capturer, Jeff Golick. A capturer of my inner ears. No worries. You can keep them till next Sunday.
	🥁 11:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY DJ JG ! Sunday A.M. is all you man.
	11:57am Stork: Thanks for the paylist post-up, JG. Fine fine show like always! See y'al down Club-Way!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: Take care, @StringOFperils. Oh, @Doug! I love that line.
	🥁 11:57am chresti: Thanks Jeff and Upsetters!
	11:58am Linda Lee: thanks for everything Jeff!
	🥁 12:03pm hyde: thanks!

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The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970	0:02:05 (Pop-up)
KMRU	OT "OT" by "KMRU"	OT	KMRU	2019	0:05:44 (Pop-up)
Horace Tapscott with the Pan-Afrikan Peoples Arkestra	Eternal Egypt Suite	Ancestral Echoes - The Covina Sessions, 1976	Dark Tree	1976/2020	0:11:47 (Pop-up)
Devin Gray	Phone Ears "Phone Ears" by "Devin Gray"	Socialytics	Rataplan	2020	0:38:28 (Pop-up)
Bobby Previte / Jamie Saft / Nels Cline ‎	Machine Learning	Music from the Early 21st Century	RareNoise Records	2020	0:41:28 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Sextett	Soft Suicide at the Baths	When Was That?	About Time Records	1982	0:49:22 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Orgöne	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Orgöne"				1:00:12 (Pop-up)
Jacob Garchik	Moebius and Mucha "Moebius and Mucha" by "Jacob Garchik"	Clear Line	Yestereve Records	2020	1:07:07 (Pop-up)
Billy Tipton Memorial Saxophone Quartet	I Will Be Sad	Saxhouse	Knitting Factory Works	1993	1:12:10 (Pop-up)
Position Alpha	The Great Sound of Sound	The Great Sound of Sound	Dragon	1985	1:17:41 (Pop-up)
ROVA Saxophone Quartet	A Leap of Faith in Transverse Time	In Transverse Time	Les Disques Victo	2018	1:22:37 (Pop-up)
Position Alpha	Fisk 14 "Fisk 14" by "Position Alpha"	Don't Bring Your Dog!	Dragon	1983	1:28:26 (Pop-up)
The Westerlies	Wherein Lies the Good	Wherein Lies the Good	The Westerlies	2020	1:34:55 (Pop-up)
The Westerlies	Golden Gate Gospel Train	Wherein Lies the Good	The Westerlies	2020	1:49:28 (Pop-up)
Jacob Garchik	Be Good "Be Good" by "Jacob Garchik"	The Heavens: The Atheist Gospel Trombone Album	Yestereve Records	2012	1:51:19 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Mouse on Mars	Fantastic Analysis "Fantastic Analysis" by "Mouse on Mars"				1:55:16 (Pop-up)
Jack DeJohnette's Directions	Minya's the Mooch	New Rags	ECM	1977	2:01:25 (Pop-up)
Joe Farrell	Great Gorge "Great Gorge" by "Joe Farrell"	Moon Germs	CTI Records	1973	2:12:25 (Pop-up)
Roots Magic	Humility in the Light of the Creator	Take Root Among the Stars	Clean Feed	2020	2:24:10 (Pop-up)
George Cartwright	Card "Card" by "George Cartwright"	MODERN ROCK	George Cartwright	2020	2:30:08 (Pop-up)
Chinese Cookie Poets	07 "07" by "Chinese Cookie Poets"	■	Chinese Cookie Poets	2014	2:42:10 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dick Khoza	Lilongwe "Lilongwe" by "Dick Khoza"				2:44:32 (Pop-up)
Fleetwood Mac	Coming Your Way "Coming Your Way" by "Fleetwood Mac"	The Original Fleetwood Mac	Blue Horizon UK	1968/2004	2:49:04 (Pop-up)
The Gladiators	Soul Rebel "Soul Rebel" by "The Gladiators"	Trenchtown Mix Up	Virgin	1976	2:51:44 (Pop-up)
Pat Kelly	Give Love a Try "Give Love a Try" by "Pat Kelly"	Return of Django	Upsetter	1969	2:55:38 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975	2:57:49 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 8:58am DJpeterDE: I'm in! Waiting to get OUT!
	8:59am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @DJpeterDE!
	🥁 9:01am hyde: hello!
	9:01am fred: Good morning Jeff and listeners
	🥁 9:02am DJpeterDE: Is the regular GTD stream "playlisted"? Would like to track down the track playing a moment ago.
	🥁 9:02am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Opening theme trax don't stay preclicked ...discuss.
	9:03am alanr: My morning exercises get confused while using this music as background! lol
	9:03am Jeff Golick: Hi hi hi, @hyde! Greetings, @fred! @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 in the house!
	9:03am Sem: Hello, Jeff the G, D:O-ers, and first timers, old-timers, egg timers, and compulsive rhymers.
	🥁 9:04am Doug Schulkind: The Perfect (radio show), man.
	9:05am StringOFperils: Hi< I'm in for the OUT. Good morning!
	🥁 9:06am doctorjazz: Hello, outer limits dwellers!
	🥁 9:07am Listener Gregory: Good morning all. I'm on vacation, so I don't have to listen today.
	🥁 9:07am doctorjazz: Rev, don't know why, the opening tracks do stay starred in my phone.
	9:09am Jeff Golick: @alanr! I'm confused by the idea of morning exercises, so it would that etc etc. @Sem! @Doug "Too Kind" Schulkind! @StringOFperils! @doctorjazz! Take a load off (yr ears), @Listener Gregory!
	🥁 9:09am doctorjazz: I thought for a second the artists make was a radio station call letters ('Wonderful KMRU....)
	🥁 9:10am doctorjazz: (Artists name...)
	9:11am northguineahills: Jeff, Checking out of my hotel, will be listening!
	9:12am Jeff Golick: Hey, @northguineahills! Where you at? Where you going?
	🥁 9:13am DJpeterDE: @Doug is there an automated playlist that records the GTD stream?
	9:14am northguineahills: Just moved back to Orlando, need to find an extended stay hotel until I get paid for my job, that starts, Monday, then, after getting paid, I can get my own flat....
	9:15am Jeff Golick: Oh, yeah, @DJpeterDE, there is indeed a master playlist...I'll try to find the link. (It's at the bottom of the daily email, if you get the GTDR missive.)
	9:22am Jeff Golick: www.onlineradiobox.com... <---- try this @DJpeterDE.
	🥁 9:23am doctorjazz: onlineradiobox.com... Here is the link.
	9:24am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @doc!
	9:24am Jeff Golick: @ngh: Orlando! Congrats on the gig; please stay safe!
	🥁 9:24am doctorjazz: The miss on this is odd...the orchestra sounds so distant, the piano was so front and center.
	🥁 9:25am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Conga
	🥁 9:25am doctorjazz: The mix, that is...typo 2 in 10 minutes.
	🥁 9:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...* is most impressive...
	🥁 9:30am hyde: i've decide that i hate cutting up bell peppers. someone needs to breed a square bell pepper to appease me
	9:30am Jeff Golick: Are you counting this, @doc?
	🥁 9:30am DJpeterDE: Thanks @doc & @doug for the link. Will have to check out Dana Gillespie!
	🥁 9:31am DJpeterDE: Has anyone seen Tapscott live? Hungry for anecdotes!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: @hyde: well, there are square watermelons, so anything's possible. www.whataboutwatermelon.com...
	9:32am Jeff Golick: (@DJpeter: I was also enjoying the Dana Gillespie, and was hoping it could end properly before the show began.)
	🥁 9:33am hyde: @jg yes! now i just need to lobby Big Vegetable on this front
	🥁 9:34am duke: hello Jeff and Out There folks
	9:35am Jeff Golick: Hale fellow, well met, @duke!
	🥁 9:37am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: As a 'Monster Kid' have 'checked out' Dana in B-Movies. She fills the screen so to speak...pals with Bowie apparently the jammy bastard.
	9:40am DJpeterDE: Is devin gray the Diego rataplan guy?
	9:41am Jeff Golick: Yes he is!
	🥁 9:42am Listener Gregory: I don't think bell peppers are the most objectionable vegetables. At least they're very easy to cut.
	🥁 9:42am Listener Gregory: Every time I hear Horace Tapscott, I am surprised that it is so good and wonder how I missed him at the time.
	9:43am DJpeterDE: What you really want is not a Square pepper, but a flat sheet
	🥁 9:44am doctorjazz: Loving this set (often don't wake early enough for the opening set).
	🥁 9:46am Listener Gregory: I have the Previte/Saft/Cline record and felt that individual cuts were fine, but the entire CD was a much of a muchness.
	🥁 9:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting sonics. Reminds me of Japanese monster movies...always a plus in my book!...
	🥁 9:47am Listener Gregory: Excuse my music theory terminology!
	9:47am DJpeterDE: They belong on 78s, @LG
	9:48am Jeff Golick: Glad you're here for it, @doc! @LG: I get where you're coming from.
	🥁 9:48am doctorjazz: LG, I think he was missed by most folks at the time. In fact, when I first heard about of him, maybe in the 90s, I think there were only 2 CDs available that I found (The Dark Tree v1 and 2)
	9:48am DJpeterDE: Like, the teddy Wilson mosaic box is amazing in small doses but too much ness
	🥁 9:49am hyde: this show is so hot my computer just crashed
	9:51am Jeff Golick: Oh dear, @hyde.
	🥁 9:51am doctorjazz: Interesting, LG, Saft, Cline, Previte are among my favorite players (but Cline can get really deep into his computer/electronic sounds.. Saft as well, for that matter).
	🥁 9:53am doctorjazz: Now, the Threadgill Sextett is yup there in the pantheon, as far as I'm concerned! THIS IS GREAT!!!!
	🥁 9:53am hyde: yeah, this is a fantastic record
	9:54am DJpeterDE: I’m guessing this title was inspired by a painting
	9:56am Jeff Golick: I do think of this painting -- en.wikipedia.org... -- though it does not depict a suicide.
	9:56am DJpeterDE: Yup. Or Socrates, which is not at the Baths or maybe it is?
	10:01am Stork: Hey all. Just poppoing in to hear the Threadgill. Sweet Sunday!!
	10:03am DJpeterDE: Yes, my understanding Is that the last T is for the seventh musician. He called it a sextet because there were six instruments (vs seven musicians).
	10:04am Linda Lee: good morning, darn it! :-)
	10:04am DJpeterDE: I was struck that Johnathan Blake introduced himself (jazz gallery stream Thursday) as playing “drums and cymbals.” Two sets of instruments?
	🥁 10:04am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: T for Two ...myself I need to man the French press I believe...
	10:05am Linda Lee: sure, i can see drums & cymbals as different instruments, often put together in a kit, but not always.
	10:06am Uncle Michael: it's unseasonably gorgeous here in Kansas. I'm out in the yard picking up debris.
	🥁 10:06am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Trap set does mean contraption... There's a good cartoon in there with dueling remotes...
	10:07am DJpeterDE: @Linda often drummers on tour bring their own cymbals but rent the drums
	10:07am Linda Lee: really! didn't know that!
	10:07am DJpeterDE: @RevRab I didn’t know that and it’s awesome!
	10:08am Linda Lee: always something to learn at D:O :-)
	🥁 10:08am doctorjazz: A review of the Threadgill Sextett in the Times at the time... THE POP LIFE; THE THREADGILL SEXTET AND ITS NARRATIVE FLAIR nyti.ms... They agree with the 2 drummer counting as 1 (I have a vague memory of him saying somewhere that it was also marketing-it got noticed and talked about. Much the way Sex Mob was a name that you noticed)
	🥁 10:09am doctorjazz: Big Garchik fan, this doesn't disappoint!
	🥁 10:10am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think of an orchestra: Timpani, snare, cymbal...a set sits them in front of one person. Most Traditions throughout the world it's one person one drum...
	🥁 10:11am Listener Gregory: Jeff, just remember that, as Paul Simon said, one man's remote control is another man's ceiling. (or person's)
	🥁 10:13am Listener Gregory: @DJPeter & Linda Lee, I once went to a small gig where the drummer had no cymbals. It turned out that he expected to find a drumset already there, but it didn't include cymbals, because they're too easily stolen, so he had to play without them. Sadly, I didn't even notice until the band mentioned it.
	10:13am Stork: Oh yeah!! Amy Denio and band! Love th Billy Tipton project!!
	🥁 10:13am Listener Gregory: Gotta run, people. Keep up the good work, Jeff.
	10:15am Linda Lee: so, online discourse: i've just been asked to prove an assertion i've never even mentioned. somehow, because of things i've actually said, it's assumed i hold a whole universe of beliefs that have nothing to do with me. isn't this weird?
	🥁 10:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Drummers have it rough with all that stuff!
	10:15am Jeff Golick: Bybe, @LG! Thanks and take care! And hellos to all coming through -- @Stork! & @Linda Lee!
	10:15am Linda Lee: don't mean to get into debate here. i just find this a funny phenomenon. i think that's called prejudice. pre-judgement.
	10:16am Linda Lee: hi Jeff!! love the sounds! thank you!
	10:18am DJpeterDE: @linda fascinating. I’d be curious to know if a good reader would be able to anticipate my positions on future issues
	10:18am DJpeterDE: This person obviously not a good reader
	10:18am Linda Lee: ho! yeah! :-)
	🥁 10:18am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: On fb Linda? Sounds like a Straw Man case? Bring your own enemy with you to attack...
	10:19am Linda Lee: thanks, Rev! yes!
	🥁 10:19am hyde: that sure sounds like online discourse
	10:19am DJpeterDE: @stork listened to J Bracken show afterward, A-1!
	10:19am Linda Lee: hahah!! ain't it though.
	10:20am Linda Lee: have i mentioned how much i love the fmu comments board? :-)
	10:20am DJpeterDE: I guess this set is making up for the extra Threadgill drummer
	🥁 10:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I slipped a discourse & haven't even been able to stand up straight for a week online...
	🥁 10:22am doctorjazz: The Saxhouse link didn't work on my phone... tiptonssaxquartet.bandcamp.com...
	🥁 10:23am doctorjazz: "We don't need no STINKIN' rhythm section!"
	10:24am Jeff Golick: Ooops - thanks, @doc. HTML typo, now fixed.
	10:24am Stork: We're having good sax, Jeff! Dr. Ruth would be groovin'.
	10:24am Jeff Golick: The Tipton group often has drums underneath; it was a little harder finding something without.
	10:24am Linda Lee: sounds like a good idea to sit it out for a while, Rev. btw, my rabbits aren't out on the lawn today. rain!
	10:26am Linda Lee: there's a tiny one this year you could hold in your palm i worry about the hawks that live in our trees. so far so good, though!
	10:27am Linda Lee: oh no! no period!
	🥁 10:28am doctorjazz: ROVA, also a fav (they don't improvise, all composed through-i asked Larry Ochs at a house concert he gave with Nels Cline and Gerald Cleaver, who did nothing BUT improvise.)
	🥁 10:31am chresti: Morning Jeff and D outers!
	10:31am Jeff Golick: Hey, @chresti!
	10:33am Linda Lee: hi chresti!
	10:33am Linda Lee: man! if there's a sound to the way i wake up these days, this is it.
	10:34am Linda Lee: it's brilliant.
	🥁 10:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Find I'm often thinking of Mingus. He occupies such an interesting place in it all...
	10:38am Jeff Golick: Here's the twitter thread I mentioned earlier, re Garchik's new album and his compositional "rules": twitter.com...
	10:38am Linda Lee: the westerlies' track works so well with this underlying steady rain falling through the pines.
	🥁 10:39am doctorjazz: Got up out of bed, put on main system (still headphones), lay down on the couch. Man, this is gorgeous-great set (again). (Rough life here in the burbs...)
	10:40am Artie: There’s just something so English about these horns.
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Artie!
	10:41am Linda Lee: it's tough here in the country too, doctor j!
	🥁 10:42am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh hey he mentions Mingus... Baroque horn timbers are very Sunday after all right? Or what once might have been Sunday...
	🥁 10:43am doctorjazz: Man, Garchick, Westerlies, Billy Tipton, gotta stop following those links.
	🥁 10:44am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): Hopping into the stream with a hearty hello to Jeff and all destined for OUT!
	10:44am Linda Lee: Granny! hi!
	10:45am Jeff Golick: Yo, @Granny Spicy Tuna!
	🥁 10:46am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *timbres ...since they are made of brass not wood :) ...
	10:49am northguineahills: Sorry, was getting pre-business schiitdt done at the hotel office. Gotta pack and run! will listen in the car. Godsonicspeed, Jeff!
	10:49am DJpeterDE: @doc I believe Rova combined improv and composition. They are not fully notated, although perhaps a given piece might be. And they seem to eschew free improv
	10:51am Linda Lee: is it Godlen Gate really?
	10:52am northguineahills: wait is, DJ peter in Deutschland, or Deleware?
	10:52am Jeff Golick: Safe travels, @ngh! (It's Delaware.)
	10:53am northguineahills: errr, Delaware....
	10:53am Stork: Delaware ngh. But he's welcome over here.
	🥁 10:54am hyde: @ngh haha, i thought it was Deutschland for a loooong time
	10:56am Stork: @DJpeter re: Joanne Brackeen: If was a preacher-man-type, I would be out declaiming the name of Joanne Brackeen. That was a really satisfying experience - 4.5 hours of her oevre. Glad u checked it.
	🥁 10:56am Doug Schulkind: I like that.
	10:56am Stork: Jeff, that set was magically delicious!
	10:57am StringOFperils: Amazing show. Stating the obvious, I know......not to mention thinking out loud. Sheesh!
	🥁 10:57am doctorjazz: @DJpetetDE-that's what I would have thought, but when I asked Larry Ochs, he told me every note ROVA played was composed (which is why he so enjoyed playing with Cline and Cleaver). Of course, artists aren't always 100% honest when it comes to "making the sausage".
	🥁 10:57am hyde: a two week break? i don't remember approving that
	10:57am Linda Lee: but was it Godlen Gate..?? i must know.
	🥁 10:58am doctorjazz: That Garchik Twitter post was interesting.
	10:58am Linda Lee: i'm startin to think the more apt term is 'antisocial media'.
	10:59am Linda Lee: duelling echo chambers! what a headache!
	11:00am northguineahills: uhmmm, i was just on a whole hilarious 'anti-social' media last night, LL made me LoLed!
	11:00am Linda Lee: you LoLed!! good for you, ngh!
	🥁 11:01am doctorjazz: I had to get that Garchik album when it came out k The Athiest Gospel Trombone Album), bought it for the title, stayed for the music.
	11:01am Linda Lee: the rain's on the way to you right now, Jeff. any minute now.
	11:01am northguineahills: moving, during a tropical storm, so, far, just strong T-storms...
	🥁 11:02am doctorjazz: Just clearing here in Central Joisey, sun peeking out.
	11:02am northguineahills: (Linda Out Lee) (wish that was your middle name)
	11:03am Linda Lee: i'm not sure there's anything quite like having shelter in a storm. Linda Obvious Lee might work too.
	🥁 11:03am DJpeterDE: @Doc re ROVA: okay then. @Stork agree that J. Brackeen is underrated. I'm not sure when she and Charles Brackeen split? But fascinating that Brackeen almost never recorded with a piano.
	11:03am northguineahills: (Oletta, or olenna?)
	11:04am StringOFperils: Quite gray and rainy here today, all day. Looking out the windows is terrarium-like. Nursing my old cat through her final days...seems sombre, but the D:O anodyne is killin' the pain
	11:04am Linda Lee: maybe Linda Outrageous Lee.
	11:05am Linda Lee: @StringOFperils ~ i'm so sorry to hear of your friend's passage. these last days are tough. hoping she's comfy.
	11:05am Stork: Sorry about your cat, SOp. Been there.
	11:06am Linda Lee: they do the transition so much more easily than we do, if we let them. they often need help, but not always.
	🥁 11:06am DJpeterDE: @Jeff here's what I've found about Dana Gillespie -- many many "blues" albums. "Lovin' Machine" was on "Below the Belt" but also a compilation "Hot Stuff." But I'm more curious about "Belt" because I want to know if that crazy guitar is throughout. Discogs says guitarist is Sam Mitchell and his own albums suggest he saw himself as a bottleneck blues player, not an avant-gardist, but to me he sounded like he was straining to stay IN
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Yeah, so sorry to hear ; that's never easy, @StringOFperils.
	🥁 11:07am DJpeterDE: @String, I've been there too. Terrible terrible time. Well, joyful and beautiful too, until the very end.
	🥁 11:08am hyde: @String I've done that too and it's no fun. Good luck
	🥁 11:12am doctorjazz: Sorry to hear that String! Have done that with dogs, very sad
	11:14am Uncle Michael: Any time I hear a guitar through an envelope follower, I momentarily wonder if I'm hearing Jerry Garcia...and he only used one on a couple of songs.
	11:14am northguineahills: @SoP: I rescued a cat that I found during a college job. I lived until 23 and I nursed it's last few years. My parents took care of it the 16 years I was in NYC, as I didn't know if having a pet would be an impediment to signing a lease. I got to spend the last 2 years w/ her.
	11:15am StringOFperils: Thank you for all the commiseration. Yeah, it's a drag, but she's being quite a trooper for somebody who's kidneys are shot. Long weekend here, so...probably Monday night. Unless it happens quietly.
	11:15am northguineahills: found rhe cat in a litter of newborn kittens behind a dumpster, I got the other kitties adopted.
	11:15am Jeff Golick: Belated HBD to Jerry, @UM.
	11:15am Linda Lee: @Uncle Michael ~ he definitely comes to mind with that sound, for sure.
	11:15am Uncle Michael: Jerry sez 'thanks, Jeff'.
	🥁 11:15am DJpeterDE: @Uncle thanks for that mention as I've now learned the difference between wah-wah and envelope follower
	11:16am StringOFperils: *whose
	11:16am northguineahills: Been missing you UM, been, uhh, busy lately...
	11:16am Linda Lee: may her way be easy! they are really tough, aren't they.
	11:17am Uncle Michael: Hey, NGH! good to see you. Good to hear you're busy!
	11:17am Uncle Michael: Sorry about your kitty, SoP.
	11:18am Linda Lee: darn littlle heartbreakers, they are ~ but such a joy to be with while we can.
	🥁 11:18am doctorjazz: Still don't know what an envelope follower is, picture myself waiting for an important letter at the mail box. Still practicing my slow shuffle-dance for the upcoming Dead Dance Party.
	11:18am Uncle Michael: Jerry using an envelope follower most famously on Estimated Prophet. Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians' one hit featured one as well.
	🥁 11:19am DJpeterDE: en.wikipedia.org...
	🥁 11:19am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Overly fond of my wah wah ...follower does it all for you...not my fave Jerry tone honestly - but people go all Pavlov they hear one like it's some amazing thing... Urrm ok - there's more than one Dana Gillespie in history. Noted...
	🥁 11:20am DJpeterDE: Really love the Joe Farrell CTI's. Probably my favorite CTI's actually.
	🥁 11:21am doctorjazz: It doesn't sound like the typical CTI.
	11:21am Jeff Golick: It's not a label I know well at all. Just dipping in, really.
	11:21am Uncle Michael: Is there a bad release from CTI?
	🥁 11:21am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): enjoying this set!
	11:22am Jeff Golick: Here comes Jack.
	🥁 11:22am doctorjazz: Man, that bass (Stanley Clark)!
	🥁 11:23am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): StringOFperils: sending love and scritches to your furry one. i love my kitties.
	🥁 11:23am DJpeterDE: The Joe Farrell's are the most "out" (a la Corea-Holland-DeJohnette). Most CTI's are very slick and produced
	11:24am StringOFperils: There is no Envelope Follower on CTI.
	🥁 11:25am doctorjazz: Discogs lists 2,301 CTI records, so I probably should avoid generalizing.
	11:26am StringOFperils: Actually interesting to know that, dr. jazz. I had wondered how many CTI releases were created.
	🥁 11:27am hyde: if there are 2301, i bet there's a bad one in there somewhere
	11:28am Uncle Michael: Yep. Probably.
	11:28am Jeff Golick: That number seems high to me; I wonder if re-issues are included in that count.
	11:28am northguineahills: Most people forget Stanley Clark did amazing music (not his soft jazz, and soft jazz sometimes works).
	🥁 11:28am doctorjazz: Jim Hall's Concierto is one I saw quickly that I really like, quite a few others there that are terrific. Theme Here reminds of Space Is The Place
	11:29am northguineahills: sounds like space is the place....
	11:30am Dean: I think it's fair to generalize, doctorjazz. CTI was known for a distinctive house sound, particularly during the later years, but there were enough exceptions to keep listeners on our toes. Primarily, though, CTI was famous for is cover designs. I noted last week on Stork's comment board, during the Joanne Brackeen sets, that the Tappan Zee label, a Columbia imprint, shared the same designer. Seeing a Brackeen LP cover on Tappan Zee, you'd think you were seeing a CTI. Turns out Bob James started TZ. I wonder whether that's the only connection.
	🥁 11:30am DJpeterDE: @Doc there's generalizing, and then there's "house sound" or "brand identity"
	11:30am Dean: No, DJpeterDE and I did not coordinate our comments.
	🥁 11:31am WR: Hi Jeff and D:O aficionados. Good day to you all. Have been listening since the mic break at 10AM ET. Great music. Thank you. Busy chore day. Laters all y'all.
	🥁 11:31am DJpeterDE: No we didn't! But grateful to Dean for the art direction comment
	11:34am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @Dean! And good day to you, @WR!
	11:34am Dean: For example, compare this: https://www.discogs.com/Wilbert-Longmire-Sunny-Side-Up/release/8756325 -- with this: https://www.discogs.com/Bob-James-Lucky-Seven/master/43686 -- or this: https://www.discogs.com/Bob-James-Earl-Klugh-One-On-One/master/43719 -- with this: https://www.discogs.com/Joanne-Brackeen-Ancient-Dynasty/master/715911
	11:36am Linda Lee: ah. this one recalls the no wave paradise of my lost youth.
	🥁 11:36am DJpeterDE: Awesome, Dean! Also, I think CTI (like Impulse!) always did the gatefold thing.
	11:36am northguineahills: Very Sharrockish!
	🥁 11:38am doctorjazz: It IS Sharrick-like...not a bad thing.
	11:42am Dean: That seems right, too, all/mostly gatefold LPs. Looks like the catalog is so extensive due to various media issues and re-issues, as Jeff G. suggests, but also to 7" issues when the label was an imprint of A&M.
	🥁 11:42am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All I want is a rhythm section to indulge me like this! ...& worry about who else can get to it later...
	11:43am Jeff Golick: Let's face it: Creed Taylor knew how to spend money. Also: make money.
	11:43am Linda Lee: where's Lydia Lunch when we need her?
	11:44am Jeff Golick: She's living a few block away from me!
	🥁 11:44am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): Ahhh! she's right behind yoooou!
	11:44am Linda Lee: in Brooklyn, Jeff? is she still working?
	🥁 11:45am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ....tell me more...
	11:46am Linda Lee: i liked the cookie poets for sure!
	11:47am Linda Lee: liked the roots magic a lot too!
	🥁 11:48am DJpeterDE: @Jeff would still love to hear Kalapursha show but don't want you to feel guilty about it
	11:49am Dean: The designer of the Moon Germs cover was not the designer who established the label's visual house style of later renown.
	🥁 11:49am chresti: Hi Linda!
	11:49am Linda Lee: how are you chresti?
	🥁 11:50am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff!
	11:51am Jeff Golick: HEY! Stay tuned for Stork! He ist here: wfmu.org...
	🥁 11:52am chresti: Slowly waking up, about to have more coffee, how are you?
	🥁 11:52am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): thanks, Jeff! See you all in the Stork Club in a few, I gotta slop the cats.
	🥁 11:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Spooky. Green always had the spooky.
	11:53am Linda Lee: i'm fine! thank you! dressing up for the stork club. clean pajamas. :-)
	11:54am Linda Lee: relatively..
	11:54am Jeff Golick: Not to worry, @DJpeterDE. I like an assignment. Lydia is still working, yes! She was still touring in the early COVID days, to such an extent that my friend from whom she is renting her apt. was kind of worried about her.
	11:55am Linda Lee: still working! good!
	11:55am StringOFperils: D:O much appreciated !! See ya later....
	🥁 11:56am Doug Schulkind: You're a capturer, Jeff Golick. A capturer of my inner ears. No worries. You can keep them till next Sunday.
	🥁 11:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY DJ JG ! Sunday A.M. is all you man.
	11:57am Stork: Thanks for the paylist post-up, JG. Fine fine show like always! See y'al down Club-Way!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: Take care, @StringOFperils. Oh, @Doug! I love that line.
	🥁 11:57am chresti: Thanks Jeff and Upsetters!
	11:58am Linda Lee: thanks for everything Jeff!
	🥁 12:03pm hyde: thanks!

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