WFMU: Michael Shelley: Playlist from July 11, 2020

Listener comments!
	10:59am Frank In Queens: Hallo.
	11:00am Listener Baby: Twice in a week? You taking vitamins, Baby? Can not imagine any human recovering from that Pop onslaught you laid on us, in just two short days. Do have some seltzer handy? Going to take it easy, right?
	11:01am Michael Shelley: HEY MR. FRANK!
	11:01am Martinibomb: yo! Michael
	11:01am Handy Haversack: Morning and good Saturday, Michael and all the Shelle Gamers! Missed your Thursday show because I was out on the East River, Michael, but glad to be here now. Hey, Frank, everyone.
	11:01am clarke: yeah - they said i won...
	11:01am Frank In Queens: Hi Michael! Hi Baby! Hi Handy! Hi Clarke! Hi all!
	11:02am Michael Shelley: FYI - that's new Michael open #6 for the Covid times.
	11:02am Squints59: "Farty-five sheep." I glory in my emerald heritage, dere.
	11:02am clarke: i shelleyed in the evening i shelleyed in the morning and got some shelley on the wall
	11:03am Michael Shelley: How is river traffic?
	11:03am clarke: we shall all shelley forth!!
	11:04am Listener Baby: Hi Frank!
	11:04am Corey: Morning Michael and everybody! Nice to be here with you all.
	11:04am Squints59: We're experiencing heavy Shelleying. Pow pow pow, indeed.
	11:04am Michael Shelley: Chuck's version in "American Hot Wax" was a big deal to me as a kid!
	11:05am Michael Shelley: Ever see that movie? Wonder if it holds up.
	11:06am clarke: hmm.. as far as i know the mississippi is pretty low. i like AmHotWax - not as much as AmGraf
	11:07am clarke: some day - we WILL be together!
	11:07am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Just a Shelley of his former self ...so @ least he's consistent.
	11:08am clarke: good tune!!!
	11:09am clarke: any day now expecting joe pernice's latest solo acoustic LP to be melting on my front stoop
	11:09am Hoboken Jack: Hi Michael and everybody! Joe Pernice is live on Instagram right now but I'm here because I have PRIORITIES.
	11:10am Frank In Queens: Hi Jack!
	11:10am clarke: what is instagram? where somebody's grandma comes to your house to bake cookies??
	11:10am Pauly from Clifton: Good morning, Michael, Skeleton Crew, all! So nice to hear your show twice in a week!
	11:10am Handy Haversack: @Michael: ferries are more frequent again, which is a little annoying, but it was a good day to be on the water! Hey there, Corey -- how's the Mitten? Hoboken Jack! Head in the right place!
	11:12am clarke: it makes sense, as pernice's new album is a bit more "obtuse" than 'need' might 'require'
	11:12am clarke: but it is still great!
	11:12am KWilde: Howdy Michael! Long time no hear
	11:13am Hoboken Jack: Frank, kudos on beating Baby to the top slot, but since it's registered at 10:59... BABY WINS!! Howdy, Handy! Ruth are ya up there? If so, a big Saturday hello.
	11:13am clarke: frank - you getting an aztec mirror??
	11:14am Frank In Queens: Already pre-ordered. Are you going to watch the live stream on Friday?
	11:15am clarke: i don't think so - but will probably catch it later
	11:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: files.explosm.net...
	11:15am Frank In Queens: Jack, now that I know it's a competition, I'll actually try to win next week!
	11:15am Hoboken Jack: No Flintstone feet, and EFD skipped the social media airhorn? What is going on over there?!? #efdfx
	11:15am Listener Baby: Hi Jack. Thanks for the love. Frank and I have an agreement. It’s all good.
	11:15am McGroovey: Live streams are cool, but radio"s better for doing two or three things at once.
	11:16am clarke: the bongo feet have been stolen - contact the authorities!
	11:16am Hoboken Jack: Hey McGroove!
	11:16am Frank In Queens: I'll treat the livestream as a concert and actually give my undivided attention to what's going on on-stage.
	11:17am clarke: nice, bub!!
	11:17am Listener Baby: Can’t quite put my finger on the song this song is inspired by?
	11:17am Corey: Hey Handy! Beautiful day in the Mitten. The Big Lake and bay are turquoise and the water's warm. Summer paradise if you ignore the covidiots. Nice to hear you got out on the water.
	11:18am Listener Baby: A mass up of What’s going on and Shaft. I just answered my own question.
	11:18am Dean: ...and Super Fly.
	11:19am Frank In Queens: Defo, Dean.
	11:19am Handy Haversack: We were paddling back into Newtown Creek, and at one of the many new luxury high-rise construction sites that are erecting Dark Towers of Capital to rule the neighborhood, the crews were signaling back and forth with air horns. All I could think was that somehow EFD was welcoming us back! Corey, sounds excellent! Really hard on us not to make it out there this year.
	11:19am clarke: HEY NOWWwwww!!!!
	11:20am Hoboken Jack: Hey Frank, Michael is playing The Above on WFMU right now
	11:20am Listener Baby: Frank.. can’t you kids just work out the issues. Come on man, the world needs you guys right now.
	11:20am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yay Above ! Been a minute.
	11:21am clarke: SUPER-SLICK!!
	11:21am Frank In Queens: Baby, the "issues" are that we don't all live in the same region of the country anymore!
	11:21am clarke: this is our concern, dude.
	11:22am Listener Baby: Doh!
	11:22am Michael Shelley: You can still make fine records Frank...
	11:22am Frank In Queens: My least fave release, but Goons is maybe the best thing we ever did.
	11:23am clarke: jupe sounded a little ashamed, ha ha
	11:23am Stashu: <3
	11:23am Adammets: Good Morning!
	11:24am clarke: BTB's was the stones least fave album. nuff sed.
	11:25am Frank In Queens: Clarke, let's not get ridiculous with the comparisons!
	11:26am clarke: yes: LET'S!!
	11:26am Squints59: Frank, Goons is a career in any league.
	11:27am clarke: The Point is: sometimes an artist is 'too close' to get propah perspective... and gain structure.
	11:28am Frank In Queens: I'd love to give you my perspective on that one, but not here.
	11:28am clarke: the louvins DID experiment with innovations later in career
	11:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ted Hawkins :) ...been a minute...
	11:29am Frank In Queens: Thanks Squints! It's one of David's best compositions in a sea of great compositions.
	11:31am clarke: the asst prod seems to have forlorn The Above on Ze Playliste
	11:31am Handy Haversack: Which release was your fave, Frank?
	11:31am Corey: @Handy A shame you can't make it out, but wise I think. There's a lot of work yet to do, but hopefully we can salvage summer 2021.
	11:32am clarke: get a slurpeee!!
	11:34am clarke: when u get to the cape, there's a guy with records at the wellfleet drive-in on weekends. of course, he is out of his mind wit da prices.
	11:34am Hughie Considine: It was a fine, fine pset!
	11:35am Frank In Queens: @Handy, of the ones actually released, the first s/t and the last EP. But the thing we were working on before we went on hold was definitely headed to the top of the list. One day...
	11:35am clarke: keep things the same!! there, i voted today
	11:35am clarke: HUGHIE SORRY to hear of your accident - hope the beagle is okay an' all???
	11:36am Melissa: It's an ancient Hindu symbol!
	11:36am MelindafromAustin: Also, originally Indigenous American symbol. - existed in many cultures before appropriation by Nazis.
	11:36am Hughie Considine: Thanks, Clarke. Wife, son and beagle are all on the mend, and I am hughely relieved!
	11:37am clarke: jeez, WHEW!!
	11:37am Listener Baby: So if a Nazi ooks in a mirror, he’s all good?
	11:37am Handy Haversack: One day, Frank!
	11:37am Gaylord Fields: Haha! "Reverse swastika" necklace: Nazis can just reverse it and wear it around their necks the other way around, or at least the 3% of them smart enough to figure that out.
	11:38am clarke: ONLY if it is an aztec mirror
	11:38am MelindafromAustin: Yeah - totally not appropriate
	11:38am Melissa: I have a 19th c. American Indian ring with the symbol on it. It existed for a long time before the Nazis coo-opted and changed it.
	11:38am MelindafromAustin: Just geeking out on the history of the symbol ...
	11:38am Frank In Queens: @Handy, it's written. It just needs to be recorded.
	11:39am Melissa: Not condoning it as a piece of jewelry!
	11:39am Listener Baby: Nick Lowe!,
	11:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Swavastika ...characterizes Fascists they create nothing & steal & misappropriate everything. They only had it for a few years. But I'm not gonna argue with a holocaust survivor about it - would defer of course. Is it appropriating Buddhism anyhow? Can you expect to not sell it to Fascists?
	11:40am Hughie Considine: It's true that it existed long before the Nazis, but that association is the one people make. Who sees a swastika, in whatever orientation, and thinks "Aztecs"?
	11:40am Mike Sin: Rundgren
	11:40am P-90: This is a real brain teaser...
	11:40am scott: Take back miss-used symbols, or let evil win, revisionists.
	11:41am Listener Baby: Graham Parker said the exact same thing about Nick Lowe. But you can’t argue with results, can you?
	11:42am Squints59: I loved the Smithereens with Marshall Crenshaw, and I'm sure the other two ringers are great, too. But, durn, I miss Pat DiNizio.
	11:42am Handy Haversack: BTW, Michael and APJ: We were driving around in Vermont sunlight last weekend and blasting the Juniper CD! We took all the CDs from Bandcamp's June 5 and Juneteenth hauls and those were the soundtrack for our actually getting Out of Town(!) for a weekend. Hadn't been on the U.S. mainland since coming back from Jersey City on March 16!
	11:42am clarke: here, here!
	11:43am pp: I was thinking Rundgren too, but he also might add a snide remark or 2. Also Zappa but not sure about being potheads
	11:44am clarke: shel talmy is my venture guess
	11:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: What is a Producer? Responsible for a good thing being produced. Not interfering with a good thing may be one end of a spectrum?
	11:44am Frank In Queens: I thought Talmy too.
	11:44am juniper: @Handy Thank you so much!
	11:45am Listener Baby: Think about what Todd did on Skylarking. If that’s rolling a joint and scratching himself, I’m going to try that.
	11:45am clarke: however, i know that talmy actually did some production for easybeats
	11:46am Gaylord Fields: @pp: Zappa was not primarily a producer, and was also personally and vocally not into pot smoking at all.
	11:46am Dennis Diken: Mickie Most?
	11:46am clarke: it's a bit warm here, at the mom
	11:46am Tim: Love Lulu....are you familiar with "Where's Edie"? written by Donnie Fritz and Eddie Hinton. Knocks me out
	11:46am Handy Haversack: @Juniper: It was a blast! Great driving music!
	11:46am Mike Sin: I said "Rundgren"as the answer to that producer question because there is a story about him doing that in a book/article about Grand Funk Railroad.
	11:47am Gaylord Fields: Shel Talmy seems a good guess: Ray Davies has claimed that he pretty much produced a lot of those later Talmy sessions.
	11:47am clarke: yeah, but you listen to the difference between We're An American Band and the rest of the output and there is no question of production.
	11:48am Listener Baby: I think Todd is pretty darned hands on. Besides, I’d guess George is talking about an English based producer. Shel might be a good guess too.
	11:49am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Do you know a Talmy track when you hear one (does he do anything)? I think of him as the Yank who recorded UK Maximum R&B - had the good taste to like it loud...
	11:49am clarke: come back, gaylord, i want to chastise you!!
	11:49am Michael Shelley: I hear Todd is VERY hot & cold. Shel sounds a good guess!
	11:49am Squints59: Yeah, I doubt Todd. You don't rub a lot of acts the wrong way by being passive and agreeable.
	11:50am clarke: but, the main reason i ventured talmy is that he might be one who would make george martin jealous.
	11:50am Gaylord Fields: Todd drove Andy Partridge nuts with his overly hands-on approach on Skylarking — going as far as having a whole concept record sketched out and giving Colin Moulding his fair share of songs for once.
	11:50am Hughie Considine: Andy Partridge resented everything about Todd, from his snarky sense of humor to his capacious forehead.
	11:50am spodiodi: good morning
	11:50am Squints59: Tim, I l discovered Where's Eddie via Shonna Tucker's job on it with The Drive-By Truckers.
	11:51am clarke: but, also on the skylarking sessions - todd would show up late in the day after the band had been playing for hours
	11:51am McGroovey: Meat product: boudin maybe? Weird squishy spicy meat-and-rice inside a sausage casing? Mmmm Very
	11:51am McGroovey: Good
	11:51am Gaylord Fields: @clarke: "With my Jersey City brains?"
	11:51am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think of MickieMost as a fairly intrusive PopMeister but I don't know what that means in the studio...
	11:51am listener 126464: for some reason Pearl sang in my 3rd grade or so classroom
	11:52am Mike Sin: re: Talmy In the the 1960s, there is no way a producer could not be hands on. Bands had no control and no expertise. The budgets were tight as hell and the records were recorded in between touring. In addition, Talmy's whole process of splitting the guitar signal and massively compressing one is all over a lot his record productions.
	11:52am Hughie Considine: And there were mice in the guest houses where the band stayed during the sessions.
	11:52am clarke: yer a cookie filled with arsenic. and jj says you sweat.
	11:53am Squints59: So, McGroovey, it wasn't... offal? <ducks>
	11:53am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx Mike Sin
	11:54am Squints59: You know, for the two or three minutes the record's on, Gaylord's not wrong. Dang.
	11:55am phat: Sure does sound like Joe Jackson, mixed with Nick Lowe.
	11:55am Gaylord Fields: Well, it kinda is, Michael, or at least up there. I searched for it frantically from 1981, when I first heard it, only finding a copy in the late '90s Thank your lucky stars for Discogs, kids!
	11:55am VictorP: I love your show Michael but I wish you and Todd aphonic Todd would stay the hell out of the political Arena. There's no need to take a cheap shot of Goya because first of all, cordelia's CEO also went to some Obama functions and says that he generally respects the office of the presidency and secondly you are equating Nazism with the Trump Administration. Let me remind you it's the Democrats that have some serious anti-semites on their team, not the Republicans. Again, for the love of God, just stay the hell out of the political Arena because you have a wonderful radio show and there's no need for you to ruin it. At least you're not as rapid as tired of finding Todd who's completely out of his freaking mind.
	11:55am scott: Producing a record, like shooting kodachrome for National Geographic. Make every take/frame count.
	11:55am Listener Baby: Hi Gaylord. The world loves you!
	11:55am Hubig Pie: All the cajun girls love a hot boudin
	11:55am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: foottapper
	11:55am Gaylord Fields: Baby!
	11:56am Hoboken Jack: Will definitely be doing some Keys research. And then someone on here that the rhythm guitarist voted for John Anderson in 1980 or something.
	11:56am Handy Haversack: Rev Rab, I was actually tapping my foot!
	11:57am Mike Sin: With Grand Funk Railroad, Rundgren might have surmised there wasn't much to do given the standard three-piece set up and the ego involved. He might have figure the basic rhythm tracks didn't need much of his attention... so he stepped way back during the initial tracking. I would think with GFR, he would focus on the overdubs and the mix -- that's what he could add to that formula.
	11:57am Squints59: The HDH formula. (I jest.) Write it forwards, write it backwards, write it sideways.
	11:57am clarke: BABY!!
	11:57am Listener Baby: I take no responsibility for my namesake.
	11:57am Handy Haversack: Rhythm guitarists were his main constituency, Jack. No one has ever really captured the rhythm guitarist vote since. Those were different times, of course.
	11:58am Meesalikeu: omg yes that is totally i think we’re alone now backwards — way to milk out the music!
	11:58am scott: Todd looks a lot like Nixon standing on his piano in the fold of the Something/Anything alum.
	11:59am Gaylord Fields: @Squints59: Also, stitch the verse melody with the chorus, give it to every artist on the roster to record! But out of fairness, if you wrote hooks as potent as HDH did, would you want to use them just once?
	11:59am Dennis Diken: John Hawken of Nashville Teens told me Most would tape studio rehearsals of tunes unbeknownst to the band and put the tracks on the album!
	11:59am Michael Shelley: Victor P. - no
	12:00pm Gaylord Fields: *"switch" the verse melody…
	12:00pm Pedro in Arlington: More politics, Mike. Music is good too.
	12:01pm scott: Freudian Fripp...
	12:01pm Squints59: I wasn't knocking it, Gaylord. 8^) Just noticing. Also, somehow "stitch" works, too.
	12:02pm Meesalikeu: a clunky country lite number lol — oh and i think its alot easier to chart on adult contemporary so maybe no payola but who knows
	12:02pm Tim: PS Don't Go Changin' (your format)
	12:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Surprised to learn the Lead break in Nowhere Man is the melody backwards. So - this is a thing people do...
	12:02pm Hoboken Jack: Victor, get your facts straight: We American Jews are, by a large percentage, proud liberal Democrats. That we're also highly intelligent is no coincidence. Also, besmirching the great TOPT on these here messageboards is not a way to win friends and influence people. You might want to just listen to records at home and come back to the radio in mid November.
	12:02pm Uncle Michael: Play Sally G again!
	12:03pm pp: I had read that Jimmy Miller became less hands as a producer on later on. Great riddle though
	12:03pm scott: Karl Marx, too...
	12:03pm Gaylord Fields: @Squints59: I was actually agreeing with you 100% by giving more examples (yeah, "stitch" does work) — just marveling at how we didn't mind at all literally hearing "The Same Old Song"!
	12:04pm WM: Regarding the reverse swastika controversy: Do you think that Scotsmen who wear kilts are cross-dressers? Do you think that there must be mass starvation in Hungary, because everyone there must be Hungry? Do you remember when some people thought Barack Obama must be Muslim because his middle name is Hussein? Part of being educated is being aware of historic and cultural differences. Re Wikipedia "Swastika still continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu and Buddhist countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, and China. Swastika is very commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies." BTW I like your show and thanks for playing Tommy James' Mirage.
	12:04pm McGroovey: There are plenty of antisemite Republicans, if we're going to start taking about that. But DJs will about what they talk about, and play the music they like, and you can listen or not.
	12:04pm Squints59: Hah. Nobody's guiltier than me of pushing the lever for another of the same pellet.
	12:05pm Mike Sin: @Dennis Diken -- that would make sense as an LP in 1964/1965 for a "teen" band was tenuous. Time to market was more important than quality!
	12:05pm Hughie Considine: Hey @Victor, I guess it's just you who objects. I'm pretty sure that less hot garbage from you would be welcomed by the FMU listening public. And @WM, regardless of its origin, the swastika is a symbol of hate in 2020, and no amount of what-aboutism will change that.
	12:08pm VictorP: My problem is with the cheap shot taken atGoya. Of course the swastika, limethe Confederate flag is a symbol of hate. It was an ancient hindu symbol btw.
	12:09pm scott: Somewhere, an image of Mother Teresa, or the Pope , or Jesus, or the star of David is a symbol of hate in 2020, fickle fashion.
	12:09pm Michael Shelley: VP- That Goya guy totally crossed the line
	12:09pm Uncle Michael: How about giving Hindus and Buddhists who wear facing-other-way swastikas as an expression of their own culture a pass. Anything else is Nazi symbology at worst, and cultural appropriation at best. Oh, and fuck Goya.
	12:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So a Producer is a mediator between Artist & Company to get Product Produced. From Businessman to Engineer to Arranger... Providing Atmosphere for the Artist - even tricking them or psyching them out... just thinking out loud to myself...
	12:10pm Frank In Queens: I'm sure Goya is very grateful for your valiant defense of their company. Very big of you to stand up for a multi-national corporation against a "cheap shot" from a local radio DJ.
	12:10pm Hughie Considine: One man's cheap shot is another man's considered belief.
	12:10pm Hoboken Jack: Hello Dennis, Gaylord, cool Mike Sin, Uncle Michael!
	12:10pm Uncle Michael: New Rochelle will forever mean Rob and Laura Petrie to me.
	12:11pm Dean: Goya's paintings have been used as album covers.
	12:11pm Uncle Michael: Hi Jack.
	12:11pm Gaylord Fields: Hiya, Hoboken Jack!
	12:11pm VictorP: The real anti semites are all democrats these days. They are the bds party with the long proud history of hatred that goes back to Robert KKK Byrd, Orval faubus, George Wallace oh, Bull Connor and every goddamn Senator that voted against civil rights legislation in the 60s. All Democrats. And never forget that it was the Republican party that was found at the free to slaves. I was by no means defending the swastika but I was defending the CEO of Goya who has a right to pick who he wants to support, and he has supported both parties, I'm sick and tired of this cancel culture and the fascism that accompanies it. This is the United States of America we're supposed to have freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of expression in this country in case you people have been asleep for so long.
	12:12pm Uncle Michael: Victor, if you're going to conflate Judaism and Zionism we have nothing to discuss.
	12:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The Confederate stars & bars was factually conceived for White Supremacy - so not the same that way.
	12:12pm Juke Joint Jonny: Hoo boy, totally relaxed normal day on the comment board today
	12:12pm Mike Sin: Hello HoboJack!
	12:12pm Hughie Considine: No one's free speech is being curtailed, Victor. People are just being held accountable for the stupid racist shit they say.
	12:12pm Dean: Cancel cancel culture!
	12:13pm Uncle Michael: Hiatus Culture!
	12:13pm Dean: Hiaters gotta hiate!
	12:13pm Hughie Considine: And thinking that Palestinians deserve respect doesn't make someone an anti-Semite, only that they disagree with Israel's treatment of them.
	12:14pm Mike Sin: Vince Melouney of the "Vince Melouney Sect." Check out those tracks! Very talented guitarist!
	12:14pm Uncle Michael: Hiatal Hernia Culture!
	12:14pm clarke: c'mon - totally false origin of confed flag - it was conceived as a battle flag. also, what one person considers it a symbol of may not be what everyone else THINKS it is.
	12:15pm Dean: Watch your pronouns, UM. Hiatal Theirnia Culture!
	12:15pm Uncle Michael: oops
	12:16pm Handy Haversack: I keep wanting to get to something like "Goya's problems don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy, mixed-up world," but I can't make it all tie in well enough. So accept this as a good-faith effort to get there. Also never thought the accu would see a "wake up, sheeple" from a Goya apologist. Just did NOT have that one in the pool! Saturdays!
	12:16pm pp: here's an off-the-wall guess for a hands off producer -- Andy Warhol
	12:17pm Uncle Michael: Unless "take off your shirt" is a production note.
	12:17pm scott: Are you saying that Palestinians treat Jews the same way as Not-sees did?
	12:18pm Hughie Considine: Does anyone have a good sangria recipe?
	12:18pm Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Shelleys and all! Do NOT attempt to go to the JC post office. TURN BACK NOW!!
	12:18pm Dean: You know how Casablanca translates into English, right?
	12:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh boy here we go - as if what the Parties were in the Civil War excuses everything now when Drumpf dogwhistles to the Klan & Nazis literally in our streets with impunity... There's your antisemitism friend. It certainly changed when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 & knew he was losing the South to racists for the Democratic Party - & that was 50+ years ago. The devil loves most a lie with a little truth in it.
	12:18pm Jay: What was that alternate version of "Red Chair Fade Away"?
	12:18pm Uncle Michael: Hughie: Open bottle of Kirkland Sangria from Costco...pour over ice.
	12:19pm Hughie Considine: Just that simple, eh @Uncle? I was inspired to mix some stuff up!
	12:20pm Uncle Michael: Kirkland isn't very good...but it sets me right. It's Koolade with alcohol.
	12:20pm Michael Shelley: "cancel Culture" sucks - but there are times when people need to held accountable
	12:22pm scott: Yes, the children of every man in jail should be held responsible for the crimes and sins of the father.
	12:22pm Uncle Michael: Every time I hear Lincoln was a Republican/Dixiecrats were the racists: Every. Time: en.wikipedia.org...
	12:22pm WM: @Hughie Considin: I completely understand and sympathise. I absolutely do not want to make excuses for neo-nazism. I'm just making a point about cultural literacy and logical reasoning. Sometimes context determines the meaning and the symbol/word is not the thing.
	12:23pm Pedro in Arlington: @Victor The chronological political affiliations of Strom Thurmond undermines your superficial read of history. Also White Supremacist Strom impregnated his family's Black maid. As to Goya guy, sure he's free to praise a monster. And I'm free to buy store-brand pintos in response.
	12:23pm clarke: these guys really GET that sly thang
	12:24pm Dean: It's the perennial conundrum: Who holds accountable those who do the holding accountable? Some factions (loaded word, I know) in academia are going off the rails with their "principled" stands against this or that point of view. In so doing, they neglect the fundamental principles that--generally, by no means perfectly--support the advancement of knowledge.
	12:25pm Hughie Considine: @WM, I see your point. Context is indeed important, so, to my mind, in the context of 2020, a swastika in any orientation no longer has anything to do with Buddhism and everything to do with far-right ideology.
	12:26pm clarke: as short-sighted as that is, i guess i agree hugh
	12:26pm clarke: the problem is that there can be no middle ground any more, apparently.
	12:27pm Juke Joint Jonny: Quick interruption to note this Paley Ramones track is the best thing ever
	12:27pm Dean: "Quick interruption": I see what you did there.
	12:28pm Hughie Considine: Yes, @Clarke, centrism no longer seems like a viable option in such fraught, polarized times.
	12:29pm Greg from ZONE 5: If there's a bad version of this song, I haven't heard it.
	12:30pm Frank In Queens: Piggies!
	12:30pm Uncle Michael: If we keep our eye on the ball, a centrist is going to be elected to the presidency in a few months.
	12:30pm clarke: anyone hear Gas Money here?
	12:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I would think it very Buddhist in principle to not stir sh*t or increase suffering if not necessary because of a mere symbol - regardless of proprietary rights - but that may be my take alone. : )
	12:30pm Hubig Pie: Sangria - couple o' oranges, a lemon, 1/4 c. sugar, 1/4 c. triple sec and a bottle o' cheap red wine. Mix and sip.
	12:31pm Uncle Michael: sip? hahahaha
	12:32pm Squints59: UM is clear on the concept. 8^)
	12:33pm Greg from ZONE 5: "I don't know kung-fu, but I could learn to CHOP ME A MOTHERFUCKER!"
	12:33pm Uncle Michael: These ain't sippin' times.
	12:33pm scott: la sangre, too much blood shed
	12:33pm President of Café Bustelo: Hello! This is the President of Café Bustelo to remind you that here at Café Bustelo we do not support Trump or have any Swastika anywhere. Enjoy Café Bustelo! Also, just saying a Swastika is meaningless because it i has history is about as intelligent as saying a noose is just a rope or a burring cross is juts a vertical bonfire.
	12:33pm Hughie Considine: Thanks, @Hubig. Was looking for something just that simple. @Uncle, agree that Biden is a centrist but he's been pushed to the left by recent events.
	12:33pm myron feld: i'll add my two thumbs (up) to the Murphy Dolomite movie
	12:33pm Moammar: That Dolemite film was wonderful. Eddie was wonderful.
	12:34pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: Bit of a different show today. I'm enjoying it.
	12:35pm Uncle Michael: He ain't bein' pushed far. I'm a privileged middle-aged, land-owning, straight white guy...and I'm WAY to the left of Biden. I'm not very far to the left.
	12:35pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: The Dolemite movie was the last movie I saw in a theatre.
	12:35pm scott: Biden is just as likely as Trump to be canonized.
	12:37pm WM: The Nazis superimposed their pseudo-Aryan history on an innocent and venerable religious symbol. That doesn't mean that we must accept the replacement of falsity for truth as a fait accompli.
	12:37pm Frank In Queens: I really don't understand how anyone can be disappointed by this album.
	12:37pm Chop Scott: Excellent show-as ever Michael!
	12:37pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: I'm up here in Canada, but boy, oh, boy, I can tell you a lot of conversations here centre on what's going to happen in the States come November.
	12:37pm Stevel: It’s a collection of damn near perfect songs
	12:38pm Uncle Michael: Well, I like the Fabulous Thunderbirds version of this song better...still...this is a great album.
	12:38pm Moammar: I picked up this Rockpile album as a spotty adolescent. Holds up.
	12:38pm WM: Oops! left out the first sentence of my last post -@Uncle Michael: Yes, the Nazi plagiarism of the swastika is the foremost example of cultural appropriation and historical illiteracy.
	12:38pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: I'm going to throw this Rockpile album on the turntable as soon as this show is over. Sounds just geat.
	12:39pm Moammar: The Joe Tex original is still the best, but the T-Birds did it nicely as well. The Brits are always a little tense.
	12:39pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Good morning Michael, Uncle Michael, Handy, everybody! Oh my god I’ve missed you so since Thursday!
	12:39pm Uncle Michael: Sorry WM. That appropriation left a mark. That symbol is irretrievable in western culture.
	12:39pm President of Café Bustelo: To dismiss the impact of the Swastika as a symbol of hate to those who are now still alive or decided from those who were victims of the hate connected to the Swastika is an act of convenience of you to minimize the trauma that others have felt for your own comfort.
	12:40pm Meesalikeu: only a matter of time until shelly breaks out the rockpile lol count on it
	12:40pm Handy Haversack: Hey, SC Lizzie! We're full of beans around here today!
	12:40pm Bill in W.O.: I was one of those mildly disappointed in the Rockpile-titled (as opposed to the preceding 5 Lowe/Edmunds record) record in the day types. It just felt safer, less edgy than the previous body of work...but yeah, the years have been kind and it's great.
	12:40pm Hughie Considine: @WM, it's too bad that the Nazis appropriated the swastika, but they did, and that's that. Try standing on a corner waving a swastika and explaining that it was all a tragic instance of cultural appropriation and see how that goes.
	12:40pm Tim from LH: Billy Bremmner was going to do a little tour of the North East this September until Covid -19 showed up.
	12:41pm Squints59: Joe Tex original? I learn something new every day. Now I have a new quest.
	12:41pm Uncle Michael: I think expectations were unrealistically high for there FINALLY being a Rockpile release.
	12:41pm myron feld: This Dana Gillespie song is outstanding.
	12:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dana Gillespie ...staggeringly beautiful...mind.
	12:42pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Handy I see what you did you lil garbanzo
	12:42pm clarke: bremner DID do a japan tour with spampinato bros as back-up band, in januar
	12:42pm Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): yeah, i've been hearing her here lately and hadn't been aware of her before. Hi!
	12:43pm Frank In Queens: I don't see a problem with stating the symbol had origins in a far different culture and with a far different meaning than what it is associated with today. However, to suggest that the original meaning has any significance in the western world today is ridiculous. It's mere trivia at this point. Nothing more.
	12:43pm Bill in W.O.: @Uncle M - definitely - and then, of course, it all blew up! Let's not forget the bonus covers stuff too...so good.
	12:43pm Hughie Considine: Can the Ramones' "7-11" be far behind?
	12:43pm Uncle Michael: You Ain't Nothin' but Fine was a Rockin' Sidney number. Not Joe Tex.
	12:44pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Those are fighting words UM
	12:44pm clarke: i don't think rockin' sidney did ANY originals - he appropriated EVERY thing
	12:44pm Uncle Michael: The truth often is, Lizzie.
	12:45pm clarke: including toot toot
	12:46pm Mike W: Oh man! I saw Keely and Sam in 1994 at the Desert Inn. Ah-mazink gig.
	12:47pm myron feld: 6 and 8 is the way to go
	12:47pm myron feld: and back up your bet with odds
	12:48pm Greg from ZONE 5: I never gamble, and therefore always break even.
	12:48pm Listener Baby: Hi Clarke!
	12:48pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: The Wikipedia says Sidney co wrote Fine Fine Fine
	12:48pm clarke: BABY!!!!!!
	12:48pm Hughie Considine: Just happened to watch Philip Seymour Hoffman's scene at the craps table in "Hard Eight." What a dynamo!
	12:49pm Moammar: Ecch, not Joe Tex. You're right. I was having a brief moment. Confused it with Knife and Fork -- which is Kip Anderson anyway. As you were.
	12:50pm Handy Haversack: "Learn to play craps" -- ha! They are eager to have you learn to play craps at the casino. I stick with poker.
	12:51pm Uncle Michael: Poker takes skill. I have no skill.
	12:52pm Sparkmouthnun: The verse on this is "There Should Be A Book".
	12:52pm clarke: apparently, you have trouble-shooting audio issues skillz!!
	12:53pm ?: blackjack is easy to win...if you're rain man.
	12:53pm Dean: Last time I gambled for reals was 1976, Vegas. I was there for the Yes/Donovan show. Underage, I ran through the old MGM casino dropping nickels into slot machines. Netted five bucks without getting caught. Vowed then and there never to return. That take is now worth more than $23.
	12:53pm WM: Just to be clear: In the 1977 the Supreme Court decided than a neo-Nazi group had the right to march through a Jewish neighborhood in Skokie, Illinois. I passionately DISAGREE with that judgment. Everyone knows what the Nazis stand for and their hateful ideas must be emphatically rejected.I don't think this opinion contradicts anything I wrote in my previous posts. Thanks everyone for a lively discussion!
	12:54pm clarke: i saw that Yes/Donovan tour - donovan was GREAT
	12:54pm Baby: Big Jim on guitar
	12:54pm Dean: He was! (Almost wrote, "Yes, he was!," but thought better of it.)
	12:54pm Hoboken Jack: Hey Greg, hey SteveL! Michael, thanks for yet another great show!
	12:55pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: We were at a Reno casino with Rex and Green Eyed Lurline and I won 40 cents from a nickel slot machine. I leapt around like I won a car and my husband was mortified.
	12:55pm LW Rhino: Yo... Michael. I started playing craps about 3 years ago. Love, love , love the game. You meet the wierdest people at the craps tables. I just expierenced the new socially distanced craps at Parx casino on Monday. Self isolated slots, 6 gamblers per table, must hit the hand sanitizer station before you are allowed to play, and of course masks required. If only people would learn how to roll numbers, why does everyone 7 out these days?
	12:56pm GListener MW: R.I.P. Adam S. <3
	12:56pm Uncle Michael: clarke...sometimes more-so for other people than myself.
	12:56pm ?: RIP Joe Rogan.
	12:56pm P-90: Ahhh... the Yes/Donovan tour. A once-in-a-lifetime moment. Wakeman’s return. And Donovan in top form.
	12:57pm Handy Haversack: Thanks for another great show, Michael! Enjoyed the chat, everyone. RIP, Adam. Be well, all!
	12:57pm clarke: ha ha - that's always the way.
	12:57pm Bill in W.O.: So Chris C. really knew this was a hit and really tried to talk Adam S. out of putting it on the record? Really?
	12:57pm Uncle Michael: I will never understand the dismissal of Stacy's Mom as a novelty song, inconsistent with the rest of the catalog.
	12:57pm Michael Shelley: isntJoe ROgan still alive
	12:57pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Great song
	12:58pm Frank In Queens: Thanks for another great show, Michael (and of course, the spin)!
	12:58pm clarke: anyone ever get the feeling you been Diddly'd? fun show, all!!
	12:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hilarious. Brilliant. Dammit.
	12:58pm Uncle Michael: Thank you, Michael!
	12:58pm Listener Baby: It's grown on me over the years. Hated it at first.
	12:58pm Hughie Considine: I agree, @Uncle. There was a fair amount of snark directed at the band for being jokey. Seems ridiculous now.
	12:58pm P-90: Wishful thinking re: Rogan?
	12:59pm Frank In Queens: Jesus, Francesca has the most nauseating voice...
	12:59pm davefromtoronto: sorry it's a bad mma in joke. big fights tonite.
	12:59pm Dean: Larry Grogan (no relation to Joe Rogan) played an Ian and the Zodiacs track during yesterday's 4-hour garage-a-thon.
	1:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY MS
	1:00pm Richard: Thanks Michael. Great show.
	1:01pm mariano: Thank you Michael!
	1:01pm Michael Shelley: THANKS ALL.... now I need to go back & read ALL these comments!
	1:01pm Dean: Thanks, and good morning/afternoon/evening.
	1:02pm Handy Haversack: I had a couple of good bean jokes, Michael -- you're in for a treat!
	1:02pm clarke: HEY - who was the mystery producer?????

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July 11, 2020: Someday...

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	Images	New * / Special ***	Approx. start time
Johnny and Jackey	Someday We'll Be Together
Red Norvo All Star Sextet	Seven Come Eleven
Pernice Brothers, The	Working Girls (Sunlight Shines)
Gene Pitney	Lips Are Redder On You
Jeannie Riley	The Back Side Of Dallas
Don Julian & The Larks	Super Slick
Above, The	Goons "Goons" by "Above, The"
Dewline	If You Can Dig It "If You Can Dig It" by "Dewline"
Louvin Brothers, The	What A Change One Day Can Make
Ted Hawkins	Watch Your Step "Watch Your Step" by "Ted Hawkins"
Oscar Peterson	Seven Come Eleven "Seven Come Eleven" by "Oscar Peterson"
Smithereens, The	PS I Love you "PS I Love you" by "Smithereens, The"
Lulu	Me The Peaceful Heart "Me The Peaceful Heart" by "Lulu"
Randy and the Rockets	Lets Do The Cajun Twist
Pearl Bailey	I Can't Rock and Roll to Save My Soul
Keys, The	I Don't Want To Cry "I Don't Want To Cry" by "Keys, The"
Tommy James And The Shondells	Mirage
Paul McCartney	Sally G "Sally G" by "Paul McCartney"
Dean and Jean	In My Way "In My Way" by "Dean and Jean"
Maninho Ma Voz Di Sanicolau	Fundo De Marê Palinha
Rami And The Reliables	New Rochelle
Bee Gees, The	Red Chair, Fade Away
Lonnie Mack	When I'm Alone "When I'm Alone" by "Lonnie Mack"
Jim Flaherty's Caravan vocal by Howie Stange	Real Gone Daddy
100 Proof (Aged in Soul)	Everything Good Is Bad
Paley Brothers with The Ramones	C'mon Let's Go!
Spotnicks, The	Casting My Spell "Casting My Spell" by "Spotnicks, The"
Piggies, The	Love Letters "Love Letters" by "Piggies, The"
Rudy Ray Moore ‎	Ghetto Expressions
Co-Real Artists	What About You In The World Today
Rockpile	You Ain't Nothing But Fine
Dana Gillespie	Just Gotta Know My Mind
Pee Wee King	Seven Come Eleven "Seven Come Eleven" by "Pee Wee King"
Bo Diddley	Moon Daddy "Moon Daddy" by "Bo Diddley"
Eric Hutchinson	Good Things Come "Good Things Come" by "Eric Hutchinson"
Ian And The Zodiacs	The Crying Game
Fountains Of Wayne	Stacy's Mom "Stacy's Mom" by "Fountains Of Wayne"
Mike Francesa	Vince Lombardi "Vince Lombardi" by "Mike Francesa"
Mike and Vinnie	Fire Works PSA "Fire Works PSA" by "Mike and Vinnie"

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Listener comments!
	10:59am Frank In Queens: Hallo.
	11:00am Listener Baby: Twice in a week? You taking vitamins, Baby? Can not imagine any human recovering from that Pop onslaught you laid on us, in just two short days. Do have some seltzer handy? Going to take it easy, right?
	11:01am Michael Shelley: HEY MR. FRANK!
	11:01am Martinibomb: yo! Michael
	11:01am Handy Haversack: Morning and good Saturday, Michael and all the Shelle Gamers! Missed your Thursday show because I was out on the East River, Michael, but glad to be here now. Hey, Frank, everyone.
	11:01am clarke: yeah - they said i won...
	11:01am Frank In Queens: Hi Michael! Hi Baby! Hi Handy! Hi Clarke! Hi all!
	11:02am Michael Shelley: FYI - that's new Michael open #6 for the Covid times.
	11:02am Squints59: "Farty-five sheep." I glory in my emerald heritage, dere.
	11:02am clarke: i shelleyed in the evening i shelleyed in the morning and got some shelley on the wall
	11:03am Michael Shelley: How is river traffic?
	11:03am clarke: we shall all shelley forth!!
	11:04am Listener Baby: Hi Frank!
	11:04am Corey: Morning Michael and everybody! Nice to be here with you all.
	11:04am Squints59: We're experiencing heavy Shelleying. Pow pow pow, indeed.
	11:04am Michael Shelley: Chuck's version in "American Hot Wax" was a big deal to me as a kid!
	11:05am Michael Shelley: Ever see that movie? Wonder if it holds up.
	11:06am clarke: hmm.. as far as i know the mississippi is pretty low. i like AmHotWax - not as much as AmGraf
	11:07am clarke: some day - we WILL be together!
	11:07am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Just a Shelley of his former self ...so @ least he's consistent.
	11:08am clarke: good tune!!!
	11:09am clarke: any day now expecting joe pernice's latest solo acoustic LP to be melting on my front stoop
	11:09am Hoboken Jack: Hi Michael and everybody! Joe Pernice is live on Instagram right now but I'm here because I have PRIORITIES.
	11:10am Frank In Queens: Hi Jack!
	11:10am clarke: what is instagram? where somebody's grandma comes to your house to bake cookies??
	11:10am Pauly from Clifton: Good morning, Michael, Skeleton Crew, all! So nice to hear your show twice in a week!
	11:10am Handy Haversack: @Michael: ferries are more frequent again, which is a little annoying, but it was a good day to be on the water! Hey there, Corey -- how's the Mitten? Hoboken Jack! Head in the right place!
	11:12am clarke: it makes sense, as pernice's new album is a bit more "obtuse" than 'need' might 'require'
	11:12am clarke: but it is still great!
	11:12am KWilde: Howdy Michael! Long time no hear
	11:13am Hoboken Jack: Frank, kudos on beating Baby to the top slot, but since it's registered at 10:59... BABY WINS!! Howdy, Handy! Ruth are ya up there? If so, a big Saturday hello.
	11:13am clarke: frank - you getting an aztec mirror??
	11:14am Frank In Queens: Already pre-ordered. Are you going to watch the live stream on Friday?
	11:15am clarke: i don't think so - but will probably catch it later
	11:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: files.explosm.net...
	11:15am Frank In Queens: Jack, now that I know it's a competition, I'll actually try to win next week!
	11:15am Hoboken Jack: No Flintstone feet, and EFD skipped the social media airhorn? What is going on over there?!? #efdfx
	11:15am Listener Baby: Hi Jack. Thanks for the love. Frank and I have an agreement. It’s all good.
	11:15am McGroovey: Live streams are cool, but radio"s better for doing two or three things at once.
	11:16am clarke: the bongo feet have been stolen - contact the authorities!
	11:16am Hoboken Jack: Hey McGroove!
	11:16am Frank In Queens: I'll treat the livestream as a concert and actually give my undivided attention to what's going on on-stage.
	11:17am clarke: nice, bub!!
	11:17am Listener Baby: Can’t quite put my finger on the song this song is inspired by?
	11:17am Corey: Hey Handy! Beautiful day in the Mitten. The Big Lake and bay are turquoise and the water's warm. Summer paradise if you ignore the covidiots. Nice to hear you got out on the water.
	11:18am Listener Baby: A mass up of What’s going on and Shaft. I just answered my own question.
	11:18am Dean: ...and Super Fly.
	11:19am Frank In Queens: Defo, Dean.
	11:19am Handy Haversack: We were paddling back into Newtown Creek, and at one of the many new luxury high-rise construction sites that are erecting Dark Towers of Capital to rule the neighborhood, the crews were signaling back and forth with air horns. All I could think was that somehow EFD was welcoming us back! Corey, sounds excellent! Really hard on us not to make it out there this year.
	11:19am clarke: HEY NOWWwwww!!!!
	11:20am Hoboken Jack: Hey Frank, Michael is playing The Above on WFMU right now
	11:20am Listener Baby: Frank.. can’t you kids just work out the issues. Come on man, the world needs you guys right now.
	11:20am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yay Above ! Been a minute.
	11:21am clarke: SUPER-SLICK!!
	11:21am Frank In Queens: Baby, the "issues" are that we don't all live in the same region of the country anymore!
	11:21am clarke: this is our concern, dude.
	11:22am Listener Baby: Doh!
	11:22am Michael Shelley: You can still make fine records Frank...
	11:22am Frank In Queens: My least fave release, but Goons is maybe the best thing we ever did.
	11:23am clarke: jupe sounded a little ashamed, ha ha
	11:23am Stashu: <3
	11:23am Adammets: Good Morning!
	11:24am clarke: BTB's was the stones least fave album. nuff sed.
	11:25am Frank In Queens: Clarke, let's not get ridiculous with the comparisons!
	11:26am clarke: yes: LET'S!!
	11:26am Squints59: Frank, Goons is a career in any league.
	11:27am clarke: The Point is: sometimes an artist is 'too close' to get propah perspective... and gain structure.
	11:28am Frank In Queens: I'd love to give you my perspective on that one, but not here.
	11:28am clarke: the louvins DID experiment with innovations later in career
	11:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ted Hawkins :) ...been a minute...
	11:29am Frank In Queens: Thanks Squints! It's one of David's best compositions in a sea of great compositions.
	11:31am clarke: the asst prod seems to have forlorn The Above on Ze Playliste
	11:31am Handy Haversack: Which release was your fave, Frank?
	11:31am Corey: @Handy A shame you can't make it out, but wise I think. There's a lot of work yet to do, but hopefully we can salvage summer 2021.
	11:32am clarke: get a slurpeee!!
	11:34am clarke: when u get to the cape, there's a guy with records at the wellfleet drive-in on weekends. of course, he is out of his mind wit da prices.
	11:34am Hughie Considine: It was a fine, fine pset!
	11:35am Frank In Queens: @Handy, of the ones actually released, the first s/t and the last EP. But the thing we were working on before we went on hold was definitely headed to the top of the list. One day...
	11:35am clarke: keep things the same!! there, i voted today
	11:35am clarke: HUGHIE SORRY to hear of your accident - hope the beagle is okay an' all???
	11:36am Melissa: It's an ancient Hindu symbol!
	11:36am MelindafromAustin: Also, originally Indigenous American symbol. - existed in many cultures before appropriation by Nazis.
	11:36am Hughie Considine: Thanks, Clarke. Wife, son and beagle are all on the mend, and I am hughely relieved!
	11:37am clarke: jeez, WHEW!!
	11:37am Listener Baby: So if a Nazi ooks in a mirror, he’s all good?
	11:37am Handy Haversack: One day, Frank!
	11:37am Gaylord Fields: Haha! "Reverse swastika" necklace: Nazis can just reverse it and wear it around their necks the other way around, or at least the 3% of them smart enough to figure that out.
	11:38am clarke: ONLY if it is an aztec mirror
	11:38am MelindafromAustin: Yeah - totally not appropriate
	11:38am Melissa: I have a 19th c. American Indian ring with the symbol on it. It existed for a long time before the Nazis coo-opted and changed it.
	11:38am MelindafromAustin: Just geeking out on the history of the symbol ...
	11:38am Frank In Queens: @Handy, it's written. It just needs to be recorded.
	11:39am Melissa: Not condoning it as a piece of jewelry!
	11:39am Listener Baby: Nick Lowe!,
	11:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Swavastika ...characterizes Fascists they create nothing & steal & misappropriate everything. They only had it for a few years. But I'm not gonna argue with a holocaust survivor about it - would defer of course. Is it appropriating Buddhism anyhow? Can you expect to not sell it to Fascists?
	11:40am Hughie Considine: It's true that it existed long before the Nazis, but that association is the one people make. Who sees a swastika, in whatever orientation, and thinks "Aztecs"?
	11:40am Mike Sin: Rundgren
	11:40am P-90: This is a real brain teaser...
	11:40am scott: Take back miss-used symbols, or let evil win, revisionists.
	11:41am Listener Baby: Graham Parker said the exact same thing about Nick Lowe. But you can’t argue with results, can you?
	11:42am Squints59: I loved the Smithereens with Marshall Crenshaw, and I'm sure the other two ringers are great, too. But, durn, I miss Pat DiNizio.
	11:42am Handy Haversack: BTW, Michael and APJ: We were driving around in Vermont sunlight last weekend and blasting the Juniper CD! We took all the CDs from Bandcamp's June 5 and Juneteenth hauls and those were the soundtrack for our actually getting Out of Town(!) for a weekend. Hadn't been on the U.S. mainland since coming back from Jersey City on March 16!
	11:42am clarke: here, here!
	11:43am pp: I was thinking Rundgren too, but he also might add a snide remark or 2. Also Zappa but not sure about being potheads
	11:44am clarke: shel talmy is my venture guess
	11:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: What is a Producer? Responsible for a good thing being produced. Not interfering with a good thing may be one end of a spectrum?
	11:44am Frank In Queens: I thought Talmy too.
	11:44am juniper: @Handy Thank you so much!
	11:45am Listener Baby: Think about what Todd did on Skylarking. If that’s rolling a joint and scratching himself, I’m going to try that.
	11:45am clarke: however, i know that talmy actually did some production for easybeats
	11:46am Gaylord Fields: @pp: Zappa was not primarily a producer, and was also personally and vocally not into pot smoking at all.
	11:46am Dennis Diken: Mickie Most?
	11:46am clarke: it's a bit warm here, at the mom
	11:46am Tim: Love Lulu....are you familiar with "Where's Edie"? written by Donnie Fritz and Eddie Hinton. Knocks me out
	11:46am Handy Haversack: @Juniper: It was a blast! Great driving music!
	11:46am Mike Sin: I said "Rundgren"as the answer to that producer question because there is a story about him doing that in a book/article about Grand Funk Railroad.
	11:47am Gaylord Fields: Shel Talmy seems a good guess: Ray Davies has claimed that he pretty much produced a lot of those later Talmy sessions.
	11:47am clarke: yeah, but you listen to the difference between We're An American Band and the rest of the output and there is no question of production.
	11:48am Listener Baby: I think Todd is pretty darned hands on. Besides, I’d guess George is talking about an English based producer. Shel might be a good guess too.
	11:49am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Do you know a Talmy track when you hear one (does he do anything)? I think of him as the Yank who recorded UK Maximum R&B - had the good taste to like it loud...
	11:49am clarke: come back, gaylord, i want to chastise you!!
	11:49am Michael Shelley: I hear Todd is VERY hot & cold. Shel sounds a good guess!
	11:49am Squints59: Yeah, I doubt Todd. You don't rub a lot of acts the wrong way by being passive and agreeable.
	11:50am clarke: but, the main reason i ventured talmy is that he might be one who would make george martin jealous.
	11:50am Gaylord Fields: Todd drove Andy Partridge nuts with his overly hands-on approach on Skylarking — going as far as having a whole concept record sketched out and giving Colin Moulding his fair share of songs for once.
	11:50am Hughie Considine: Andy Partridge resented everything about Todd, from his snarky sense of humor to his capacious forehead.
	11:50am spodiodi: good morning
	11:50am Squints59: Tim, I l discovered Where's Eddie via Shonna Tucker's job on it with The Drive-By Truckers.
	11:51am clarke: but, also on the skylarking sessions - todd would show up late in the day after the band had been playing for hours
	11:51am McGroovey: Meat product: boudin maybe? Weird squishy spicy meat-and-rice inside a sausage casing? Mmmm Very
	11:51am McGroovey: Good
	11:51am Gaylord Fields: @clarke: "With my Jersey City brains?"
	11:51am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think of MickieMost as a fairly intrusive PopMeister but I don't know what that means in the studio...
	11:51am listener 126464: for some reason Pearl sang in my 3rd grade or so classroom
	11:52am Mike Sin: re: Talmy In the the 1960s, there is no way a producer could not be hands on. Bands had no control and no expertise. The budgets were tight as hell and the records were recorded in between touring. In addition, Talmy's whole process of splitting the guitar signal and massively compressing one is all over a lot his record productions.
	11:52am Hughie Considine: And there were mice in the guest houses where the band stayed during the sessions.
	11:52am clarke: yer a cookie filled with arsenic. and jj says you sweat.
	11:53am Squints59: So, McGroovey, it wasn't... offal? <ducks>
	11:53am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx Mike Sin
	11:54am Squints59: You know, for the two or three minutes the record's on, Gaylord's not wrong. Dang.
	11:55am phat: Sure does sound like Joe Jackson, mixed with Nick Lowe.
	11:55am Gaylord Fields: Well, it kinda is, Michael, or at least up there. I searched for it frantically from 1981, when I first heard it, only finding a copy in the late '90s Thank your lucky stars for Discogs, kids!
	11:55am VictorP: I love your show Michael but I wish you and Todd aphonic Todd would stay the hell out of the political Arena. There's no need to take a cheap shot of Goya because first of all, cordelia's CEO also went to some Obama functions and says that he generally respects the office of the presidency and secondly you are equating Nazism with the Trump Administration. Let me remind you it's the Democrats that have some serious anti-semites on their team, not the Republicans. Again, for the love of God, just stay the hell out of the political Arena because you have a wonderful radio show and there's no need for you to ruin it. At least you're not as rapid as tired of finding Todd who's completely out of his freaking mind.
	11:55am scott: Producing a record, like shooting kodachrome for National Geographic. Make every take/frame count.
	11:55am Listener Baby: Hi Gaylord. The world loves you!
	11:55am Hubig Pie: All the cajun girls love a hot boudin
	11:55am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: foottapper
	11:55am Gaylord Fields: Baby!
	11:56am Hoboken Jack: Will definitely be doing some Keys research. And then someone on here that the rhythm guitarist voted for John Anderson in 1980 or something.
	11:56am Handy Haversack: Rev Rab, I was actually tapping my foot!
	11:57am Mike Sin: With Grand Funk Railroad, Rundgren might have surmised there wasn't much to do given the standard three-piece set up and the ego involved. He might have figure the basic rhythm tracks didn't need much of his attention... so he stepped way back during the initial tracking. I would think with GFR, he would focus on the overdubs and the mix -- that's what he could add to that formula.
	11:57am Squints59: The HDH formula. (I jest.) Write it forwards, write it backwards, write it sideways.
	11:57am clarke: BABY!!
	11:57am Listener Baby: I take no responsibility for my namesake.
	11:57am Handy Haversack: Rhythm guitarists were his main constituency, Jack. No one has ever really captured the rhythm guitarist vote since. Those were different times, of course.
	11:58am Meesalikeu: omg yes that is totally i think we’re alone now backwards — way to milk out the music!
	11:58am scott: Todd looks a lot like Nixon standing on his piano in the fold of the Something/Anything alum.
	11:59am Gaylord Fields: @Squints59: Also, stitch the verse melody with the chorus, give it to every artist on the roster to record! But out of fairness, if you wrote hooks as potent as HDH did, would you want to use them just once?
	11:59am Dennis Diken: John Hawken of Nashville Teens told me Most would tape studio rehearsals of tunes unbeknownst to the band and put the tracks on the album!
	11:59am Michael Shelley: Victor P. - no
	12:00pm Gaylord Fields: *"switch" the verse melody…
	12:00pm Pedro in Arlington: More politics, Mike. Music is good too.
	12:01pm scott: Freudian Fripp...
	12:01pm Squints59: I wasn't knocking it, Gaylord. 8^) Just noticing. Also, somehow "stitch" works, too.
	12:02pm Meesalikeu: a clunky country lite number lol — oh and i think its alot easier to chart on adult contemporary so maybe no payola but who knows
	12:02pm Tim: PS Don't Go Changin' (your format)
	12:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Surprised to learn the Lead break in Nowhere Man is the melody backwards. So - this is a thing people do...
	12:02pm Hoboken Jack: Victor, get your facts straight: We American Jews are, by a large percentage, proud liberal Democrats. That we're also highly intelligent is no coincidence. Also, besmirching the great TOPT on these here messageboards is not a way to win friends and influence people. You might want to just listen to records at home and come back to the radio in mid November.
	12:02pm Uncle Michael: Play Sally G again!
	12:03pm pp: I had read that Jimmy Miller became less hands as a producer on later on. Great riddle though
	12:03pm scott: Karl Marx, too...
	12:03pm Gaylord Fields: @Squints59: I was actually agreeing with you 100% by giving more examples (yeah, "stitch" does work) — just marveling at how we didn't mind at all literally hearing "The Same Old Song"!
	12:04pm WM: Regarding the reverse swastika controversy: Do you think that Scotsmen who wear kilts are cross-dressers? Do you think that there must be mass starvation in Hungary, because everyone there must be Hungry? Do you remember when some people thought Barack Obama must be Muslim because his middle name is Hussein? Part of being educated is being aware of historic and cultural differences. Re Wikipedia "Swastika still continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu and Buddhist countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, and China. Swastika is very commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies." BTW I like your show and thanks for playing Tommy James' Mirage.
	12:04pm McGroovey: There are plenty of antisemite Republicans, if we're going to start taking about that. But DJs will about what they talk about, and play the music they like, and you can listen or not.
	12:04pm Squints59: Hah. Nobody's guiltier than me of pushing the lever for another of the same pellet.
	12:05pm Mike Sin: @Dennis Diken -- that would make sense as an LP in 1964/1965 for a "teen" band was tenuous. Time to market was more important than quality!
	12:05pm Hughie Considine: Hey @Victor, I guess it's just you who objects. I'm pretty sure that less hot garbage from you would be welcomed by the FMU listening public. And @WM, regardless of its origin, the swastika is a symbol of hate in 2020, and no amount of what-aboutism will change that.
	12:08pm VictorP: My problem is with the cheap shot taken atGoya. Of course the swastika, limethe Confederate flag is a symbol of hate. It was an ancient hindu symbol btw.
	12:09pm scott: Somewhere, an image of Mother Teresa, or the Pope , or Jesus, or the star of David is a symbol of hate in 2020, fickle fashion.
	12:09pm Michael Shelley: VP- That Goya guy totally crossed the line
	12:09pm Uncle Michael: How about giving Hindus and Buddhists who wear facing-other-way swastikas as an expression of their own culture a pass. Anything else is Nazi symbology at worst, and cultural appropriation at best. Oh, and fuck Goya.
	12:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So a Producer is a mediator between Artist & Company to get Product Produced. From Businessman to Engineer to Arranger... Providing Atmosphere for the Artist - even tricking them or psyching them out... just thinking out loud to myself...
	12:10pm Frank In Queens: I'm sure Goya is very grateful for your valiant defense of their company. Very big of you to stand up for a multi-national corporation against a "cheap shot" from a local radio DJ.
	12:10pm Hughie Considine: One man's cheap shot is another man's considered belief.
	12:10pm Hoboken Jack: Hello Dennis, Gaylord, cool Mike Sin, Uncle Michael!
	12:10pm Uncle Michael: New Rochelle will forever mean Rob and Laura Petrie to me.
	12:11pm Dean: Goya's paintings have been used as album covers.
	12:11pm Uncle Michael: Hi Jack.
	12:11pm Gaylord Fields: Hiya, Hoboken Jack!
	12:11pm VictorP: The real anti semites are all democrats these days. They are the bds party with the long proud history of hatred that goes back to Robert KKK Byrd, Orval faubus, George Wallace oh, Bull Connor and every goddamn Senator that voted against civil rights legislation in the 60s. All Democrats. And never forget that it was the Republican party that was found at the free to slaves. I was by no means defending the swastika but I was defending the CEO of Goya who has a right to pick who he wants to support, and he has supported both parties, I'm sick and tired of this cancel culture and the fascism that accompanies it. This is the United States of America we're supposed to have freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of expression in this country in case you people have been asleep for so long.
	12:12pm Uncle Michael: Victor, if you're going to conflate Judaism and Zionism we have nothing to discuss.
	12:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The Confederate stars & bars was factually conceived for White Supremacy - so not the same that way.
	12:12pm Juke Joint Jonny: Hoo boy, totally relaxed normal day on the comment board today
	12:12pm Mike Sin: Hello HoboJack!
	12:12pm Hughie Considine: No one's free speech is being curtailed, Victor. People are just being held accountable for the stupid racist shit they say.
	12:12pm Dean: Cancel cancel culture!
	12:13pm Uncle Michael: Hiatus Culture!
	12:13pm Dean: Hiaters gotta hiate!
	12:13pm Hughie Considine: And thinking that Palestinians deserve respect doesn't make someone an anti-Semite, only that they disagree with Israel's treatment of them.
	12:14pm Mike Sin: Vince Melouney of the "Vince Melouney Sect." Check out those tracks! Very talented guitarist!
	12:14pm Uncle Michael: Hiatal Hernia Culture!
	12:14pm clarke: c'mon - totally false origin of confed flag - it was conceived as a battle flag. also, what one person considers it a symbol of may not be what everyone else THINKS it is.
	12:15pm Dean: Watch your pronouns, UM. Hiatal Theirnia Culture!
	12:15pm Uncle Michael: oops
	12:16pm Handy Haversack: I keep wanting to get to something like "Goya's problems don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy, mixed-up world," but I can't make it all tie in well enough. So accept this as a good-faith effort to get there. Also never thought the accu would see a "wake up, sheeple" from a Goya apologist. Just did NOT have that one in the pool! Saturdays!
	12:16pm pp: here's an off-the-wall guess for a hands off producer -- Andy Warhol
	12:17pm Uncle Michael: Unless "take off your shirt" is a production note.
	12:17pm scott: Are you saying that Palestinians treat Jews the same way as Not-sees did?
	12:18pm Hughie Considine: Does anyone have a good sangria recipe?
	12:18pm Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Shelleys and all! Do NOT attempt to go to the JC post office. TURN BACK NOW!!
	12:18pm Dean: You know how Casablanca translates into English, right?
	12:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh boy here we go - as if what the Parties were in the Civil War excuses everything now when Drumpf dogwhistles to the Klan & Nazis literally in our streets with impunity... There's your antisemitism friend. It certainly changed when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 & knew he was losing the South to racists for the Democratic Party - & that was 50+ years ago. The devil loves most a lie with a little truth in it.
	12:18pm Jay: What was that alternate version of "Red Chair Fade Away"?
	12:18pm Uncle Michael: Hughie: Open bottle of Kirkland Sangria from Costco...pour over ice.
	12:19pm Hughie Considine: Just that simple, eh @Uncle? I was inspired to mix some stuff up!
	12:20pm Uncle Michael: Kirkland isn't very good...but it sets me right. It's Koolade with alcohol.
	12:20pm Michael Shelley: "cancel Culture" sucks - but there are times when people need to held accountable
	12:22pm scott: Yes, the children of every man in jail should be held responsible for the crimes and sins of the father.
	12:22pm Uncle Michael: Every time I hear Lincoln was a Republican/Dixiecrats were the racists: Every. Time: en.wikipedia.org...
	12:22pm WM: @Hughie Considin: I completely understand and sympathise. I absolutely do not want to make excuses for neo-nazism. I'm just making a point about cultural literacy and logical reasoning. Sometimes context determines the meaning and the symbol/word is not the thing.
	12:23pm Pedro in Arlington: @Victor The chronological political affiliations of Strom Thurmond undermines your superficial read of history. Also White Supremacist Strom impregnated his family's Black maid. As to Goya guy, sure he's free to praise a monster. And I'm free to buy store-brand pintos in response.
	12:23pm clarke: these guys really GET that sly thang
	12:24pm Dean: It's the perennial conundrum: Who holds accountable those who do the holding accountable? Some factions (loaded word, I know) in academia are going off the rails with their "principled" stands against this or that point of view. In so doing, they neglect the fundamental principles that--generally, by no means perfectly--support the advancement of knowledge.
	12:25pm Hughie Considine: @WM, I see your point. Context is indeed important, so, to my mind, in the context of 2020, a swastika in any orientation no longer has anything to do with Buddhism and everything to do with far-right ideology.
	12:26pm clarke: as short-sighted as that is, i guess i agree hugh
	12:26pm clarke: the problem is that there can be no middle ground any more, apparently.
	12:27pm Juke Joint Jonny: Quick interruption to note this Paley Ramones track is the best thing ever
	12:27pm Dean: "Quick interruption": I see what you did there.
	12:28pm Hughie Considine: Yes, @Clarke, centrism no longer seems like a viable option in such fraught, polarized times.
	12:29pm Greg from ZONE 5: If there's a bad version of this song, I haven't heard it.
	12:30pm Frank In Queens: Piggies!
	12:30pm Uncle Michael: If we keep our eye on the ball, a centrist is going to be elected to the presidency in a few months.
	12:30pm clarke: anyone hear Gas Money here?
	12:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I would think it very Buddhist in principle to not stir sh*t or increase suffering if not necessary because of a mere symbol - regardless of proprietary rights - but that may be my take alone. : )
	12:30pm Hubig Pie: Sangria - couple o' oranges, a lemon, 1/4 c. sugar, 1/4 c. triple sec and a bottle o' cheap red wine. Mix and sip.
	12:31pm Uncle Michael: sip? hahahaha
	12:32pm Squints59: UM is clear on the concept. 8^)
	12:33pm Greg from ZONE 5: "I don't know kung-fu, but I could learn to CHOP ME A MOTHERFUCKER!"
	12:33pm Uncle Michael: These ain't sippin' times.
	12:33pm scott: la sangre, too much blood shed
	12:33pm President of Café Bustelo: Hello! This is the President of Café Bustelo to remind you that here at Café Bustelo we do not support Trump or have any Swastika anywhere. Enjoy Café Bustelo! Also, just saying a Swastika is meaningless because it i has history is about as intelligent as saying a noose is just a rope or a burring cross is juts a vertical bonfire.
	12:33pm Hughie Considine: Thanks, @Hubig. Was looking for something just that simple. @Uncle, agree that Biden is a centrist but he's been pushed to the left by recent events.
	12:33pm myron feld: i'll add my two thumbs (up) to the Murphy Dolomite movie
	12:33pm Moammar: That Dolemite film was wonderful. Eddie was wonderful.
	12:34pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: Bit of a different show today. I'm enjoying it.
	12:35pm Uncle Michael: He ain't bein' pushed far. I'm a privileged middle-aged, land-owning, straight white guy...and I'm WAY to the left of Biden. I'm not very far to the left.
	12:35pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: The Dolemite movie was the last movie I saw in a theatre.
	12:35pm scott: Biden is just as likely as Trump to be canonized.
	12:37pm WM: The Nazis superimposed their pseudo-Aryan history on an innocent and venerable religious symbol. That doesn't mean that we must accept the replacement of falsity for truth as a fait accompli.
	12:37pm Frank In Queens: I really don't understand how anyone can be disappointed by this album.
	12:37pm Chop Scott: Excellent show-as ever Michael!
	12:37pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: I'm up here in Canada, but boy, oh, boy, I can tell you a lot of conversations here centre on what's going to happen in the States come November.
	12:37pm Stevel: It’s a collection of damn near perfect songs
	12:38pm Uncle Michael: Well, I like the Fabulous Thunderbirds version of this song better...still...this is a great album.
	12:38pm Moammar: I picked up this Rockpile album as a spotty adolescent. Holds up.
	12:38pm WM: Oops! left out the first sentence of my last post -@Uncle Michael: Yes, the Nazi plagiarism of the swastika is the foremost example of cultural appropriation and historical illiteracy.
	12:38pm Geoffrey in Ottawa: I'm going to throw this Rockpile album on the turntable as soon as this show is over. Sounds just geat.
	12:39pm Moammar: The Joe Tex original is still the best, but the T-Birds did it nicely as well. The Brits are always a little tense.
	12:39pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Good morning Michael, Uncle Michael, Handy, everybody! Oh my god I’ve missed you so since Thursday!
	12:39pm Uncle Michael: Sorry WM. That appropriation left a mark. That symbol is irretrievable in western culture.
	12:39pm President of Café Bustelo: To dismiss the impact of the Swastika as a symbol of hate to those who are now still alive or decided from those who were victims of the hate connected to the Swastika is an act of convenience of you to minimize the trauma that others have felt for your own comfort.
	12:40pm Meesalikeu: only a matter of time until shelly breaks out the rockpile lol count on it
	12:40pm Handy Haversack: Hey, SC Lizzie! We're full of beans around here today!
	12:40pm Bill in W.O.: I was one of those mildly disappointed in the Rockpile-titled (as opposed to the preceding 5 Lowe/Edmunds record) record in the day types. It just felt safer, less edgy than the previous body of work...but yeah, the years have been kind and it's great.
	12:40pm Hughie Considine: @WM, it's too bad that the Nazis appropriated the swastika, but they did, and that's that. Try standing on a corner waving a swastika and explaining that it was all a tragic instance of cultural appropriation and see how that goes.
	12:40pm Tim from LH: Billy Bremmner was going to do a little tour of the North East this September until Covid -19 showed up.
	12:41pm Squints59: Joe Tex original? I learn something new every day. Now I have a new quest.
	12:41pm Uncle Michael: I think expectations were unrealistically high for there FINALLY being a Rockpile release.
	12:41pm myron feld: This Dana Gillespie song is outstanding.
	12:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dana Gillespie ...staggeringly beautiful...mind.
	12:42pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Handy I see what you did you lil garbanzo
	12:42pm clarke: bremner DID do a japan tour with spampinato bros as back-up band, in januar
	12:42pm Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): yeah, i've been hearing her here lately and hadn't been aware of her before. Hi!
	12:43pm Frank In Queens: I don't see a problem with stating the symbol had origins in a far different culture and with a far different meaning than what it is associated with today. However, to suggest that the original meaning has any significance in the western world today is ridiculous. It's mere trivia at this point. Nothing more.
	12:43pm Bill in W.O.: @Uncle M - definitely - and then, of course, it all blew up! Let's not forget the bonus covers stuff too...so good.
	12:43pm Hughie Considine: Can the Ramones' "7-11" be far behind?
	12:43pm Uncle Michael: You Ain't Nothin' but Fine was a Rockin' Sidney number. Not Joe Tex.
	12:44pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Those are fighting words UM
	12:44pm clarke: i don't think rockin' sidney did ANY originals - he appropriated EVERY thing
	12:44pm Uncle Michael: The truth often is, Lizzie.
	12:45pm clarke: including toot toot
	12:46pm Mike W: Oh man! I saw Keely and Sam in 1994 at the Desert Inn. Ah-mazink gig.
	12:47pm myron feld: 6 and 8 is the way to go
	12:47pm myron feld: and back up your bet with odds
	12:48pm Greg from ZONE 5: I never gamble, and therefore always break even.
	12:48pm Listener Baby: Hi Clarke!
	12:48pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: The Wikipedia says Sidney co wrote Fine Fine Fine
	12:48pm clarke: BABY!!!!!!
	12:48pm Hughie Considine: Just happened to watch Philip Seymour Hoffman's scene at the craps table in "Hard Eight." What a dynamo!
	12:49pm Moammar: Ecch, not Joe Tex. You're right. I was having a brief moment. Confused it with Knife and Fork -- which is Kip Anderson anyway. As you were.
	12:50pm Handy Haversack: "Learn to play craps" -- ha! They are eager to have you learn to play craps at the casino. I stick with poker.
	12:51pm Uncle Michael: Poker takes skill. I have no skill.
	12:52pm Sparkmouthnun: The verse on this is "There Should Be A Book".
	12:52pm clarke: apparently, you have trouble-shooting audio issues skillz!!
	12:53pm ?: blackjack is easy to win...if you're rain man.
	12:53pm Dean: Last time I gambled for reals was 1976, Vegas. I was there for the Yes/Donovan show. Underage, I ran through the old MGM casino dropping nickels into slot machines. Netted five bucks without getting caught. Vowed then and there never to return. That take is now worth more than $23.
	12:53pm WM: Just to be clear: In the 1977 the Supreme Court decided than a neo-Nazi group had the right to march through a Jewish neighborhood in Skokie, Illinois. I passionately DISAGREE with that judgment. Everyone knows what the Nazis stand for and their hateful ideas must be emphatically rejected.I don't think this opinion contradicts anything I wrote in my previous posts. Thanks everyone for a lively discussion!
	12:54pm clarke: i saw that Yes/Donovan tour - donovan was GREAT
	12:54pm Baby: Big Jim on guitar
	12:54pm Dean: He was! (Almost wrote, "Yes, he was!," but thought better of it.)
	12:54pm Hoboken Jack: Hey Greg, hey SteveL! Michael, thanks for yet another great show!
	12:55pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: We were at a Reno casino with Rex and Green Eyed Lurline and I won 40 cents from a nickel slot machine. I leapt around like I won a car and my husband was mortified.
	12:55pm LW Rhino: Yo... Michael. I started playing craps about 3 years ago. Love, love , love the game. You meet the wierdest people at the craps tables. I just expierenced the new socially distanced craps at Parx casino on Monday. Self isolated slots, 6 gamblers per table, must hit the hand sanitizer station before you are allowed to play, and of course masks required. If only people would learn how to roll numbers, why does everyone 7 out these days?
	12:56pm GListener MW: R.I.P. Adam S. <3
	12:56pm Uncle Michael: clarke...sometimes more-so for other people than myself.
	12:56pm ?: RIP Joe Rogan.
	12:56pm P-90: Ahhh... the Yes/Donovan tour. A once-in-a-lifetime moment. Wakeman’s return. And Donovan in top form.
	12:57pm Handy Haversack: Thanks for another great show, Michael! Enjoyed the chat, everyone. RIP, Adam. Be well, all!
	12:57pm clarke: ha ha - that's always the way.
	12:57pm Bill in W.O.: So Chris C. really knew this was a hit and really tried to talk Adam S. out of putting it on the record? Really?
	12:57pm Uncle Michael: I will never understand the dismissal of Stacy's Mom as a novelty song, inconsistent with the rest of the catalog.
	12:57pm Michael Shelley: isntJoe ROgan still alive
	12:57pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Great song
	12:58pm Frank In Queens: Thanks for another great show, Michael (and of course, the spin)!
	12:58pm clarke: anyone ever get the feeling you been Diddly'd? fun show, all!!
	12:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hilarious. Brilliant. Dammit.
	12:58pm Uncle Michael: Thank you, Michael!
	12:58pm Listener Baby: It's grown on me over the years. Hated it at first.
	12:58pm Hughie Considine: I agree, @Uncle. There was a fair amount of snark directed at the band for being jokey. Seems ridiculous now.
	12:58pm P-90: Wishful thinking re: Rogan?
	12:59pm Frank In Queens: Jesus, Francesca has the most nauseating voice...
	12:59pm davefromtoronto: sorry it's a bad mma in joke. big fights tonite.
	12:59pm Dean: Larry Grogan (no relation to Joe Rogan) played an Ian and the Zodiacs track during yesterday's 4-hour garage-a-thon.
	1:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY MS
	1:00pm Richard: Thanks Michael. Great show.
	1:01pm mariano: Thank you Michael!
	1:01pm Michael Shelley: THANKS ALL.... now I need to go back & read ALL these comments!
	1:01pm Dean: Thanks, and good morning/afternoon/evening.
	1:02pm Handy Haversack: I had a couple of good bean jokes, Michael -- you're in for a treat!
	1:02pm clarke: HEY - who was the mystery producer?????

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