WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 1, 2020

Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techt-I-Ficial Intelligentsia
	6:01pm David in London: Hello one and all. Tech me up please Mr Hurst.
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon drives! Ultradamno, David, good to see you both.
	🤖 6:02pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Mark + Friends.
	🤖 6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonidactyls!
	6:02pm JakeGould: Hey!
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Hello Mark! TechtonAIcs!
	6:02pm ultradamno: Hiya Handy
	6:02pm David in London: Hey Handy. Read about your epic jaunt today - sounds very much like mine last week. Hi Ultradamno.
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Mark! Techtomorphs!
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: I was thinking just that, David!
	6:03pm WR: I'm on board with this.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: There's supposedly a Strike of some sort at Facebook tomorrow.
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	6:04pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	6:04pm Dave Miss: Hello all. We’re almost 1/2 way thru this year.
	6:04pm JohnEBGood: Your show is awesome.
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Tonight's show ties in with Scott's show from a few weeks ago.
	6:04pm JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: It was today and it was a “virtual walkout”… Meh… www.cnbc.com...
	6:04pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining in!
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: @JohnEBGood thanks
	🤖 6:05pm Webhamster Henry: @JakeGould dates - so hard to find on articles!
	6:05pm kevlicki: Hi everyone! What a time the new upside down world is! Plenty of surveillance happening rn! Tuning in to “escape” from the world
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Most if not all AI Jukebox tunes are limited to 1 minute.
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: I use Open AI's Transformer / GPT-2 a whole lot.
	6:09pm kevlicki: DHS drones are being used over Minneapolis for surveillance purposes https://gizmodo.com/customs-and-border-protection-flew-a-predator-surveilla-1843758034
	6:11pm JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: The “virtual walkout” reads like such bullshit. People who worked from home just didn’t work from home and all many of them did is change their avatars or post fist emojis next to black hearts. If one were really conspiracy theorist this is such a sad effort one can almost imagine this as some way for Facebook to attempt to force all protesting online; thus making this all clean and easy.
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: Links to OpenAI Jukebox, and Ryan's Stereogum article, are all in the links section at left.
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: We're not far from the 34th St. heliport here, but the helicopter sounds have been pretty constant for the last few hours out here.
	6:15pm listener james from westwood: Oh you gotta pull the plug on that Elvis Skynet thing. Kill it before it taps into NORAD.
	6:15pm Peter from Dover NJ: That fake Elvis song wouldn't fool anyone with a brain and an affinity for music. Scary how AI cobbled the song together though.
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: talktotranformer.com
	6:15pm dale: i dug faux elvis - or felvis if you will.
	6:15pm ultradamno: Let us live i.ytimg.com...
	6:16pm JakeGould: @ListenerJames: That Elvis AI will want to go on a road trip and visit Nixon.
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: ahem... talktotransformer.com
	6:18pm JakeGould: @WebamsterHenry: Tyat will really revolutionize click-bait websites.
	🤖 6:18pm Webhamster Henry: Like Botnik, the huge amount of GPT2 generated content - which is not so bad -has humans editing it to get good examples.
	🤖 6:19pm Bas NL: @WH I just entered: I'm listening to Techtonic because..
	6:20pm sim: I believe the Elvis lyrics say more about the technologists who trained the AI, than the AI itself.
	6:21pm Cp304: Good evening peoples.. Mark I just got a chance to say I love the show
	6:23pm dale: why does it all have to sound like it's recorded on cassette over the shortwave?
	6:23pm JakeGould: I just entered: “Why was George Floyd killed? And what can be done to stop attacks on black people like that.” And one line in the AI generated text victim-blamed him: “If something had been done years ago to stop him from having such a life.” ibb.co... Way to go A.I.!
	6:24pm David in London: They all come out sounding like Charles Manson songs.
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: The OpenAI site has the technical paper on the AI Jukebox.Some of its possibilities and sound quality is based on the limitations of the technique it uses to present the sound to the AI, which is 3 bands of CELP -like encoding to pull the bandwidth really far down, and also it can't correlate too far inthe past.
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: @Cp304 thanks!
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: CELP - is like the encoding used for phones. Code-excited linear prediction.
	6:26pm Peter from Dover NJ: @JakeGould 6:23. Wow, just wow.
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: The paper mentions other sone based machine learning, like that used by Mel-net, which is way better sounding, but would take way more resources to encode the same amount of data used by the Jukebox.
	6:27pm sim: The project seems to be an example of Searle's Chinese Room.
	6:27pm dale: i'd like to hear the real artist record the a.i. version.
	🤖 6:27pm Webhamster Henry: GPT-2 was trained on reddit responses, and there's a definite creepy libertarian spin to its responses if you don't feed it a lot af initial text.
	6:28pm sim: Artists (and everyone) could live fine on UBI and universal health care.
	6:28pm RyanHWalsh: Hi everyone, I'm Ryan. Mark was nice enough to interview me for the show tonight. Thanks for listening and reading!
	6:29pm Mark Hurst: Hi Ryan! Thanks for joining in! Really enjoyed our interview.
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: @dale, well, there is the Songularity from Botik, another former Techtonic guest. botnik.org...
	🤖 6:30pm Webhamster Henry: AI doesn't ned to take over the world. Just taking over the stock market will do plenty of damage.
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, Webham. Here's Botnik - AI-inspired music - on Techtonic October 8, 2018: www.wfmu.org...
	6:30pm sim: AI is the hammer. We are the nails.
	6:31pm WR: So performers will need protect their sound & styles, not just their compositions. Slippery slope but what alternatives.
	🤖 6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: What it the AI were trained with WFMU comments board text?
	6:32pm ultradamno: I'm sure Robo Pan Alley could come up with as good Selena Gomez or Demi Lovato songs as they do...
	6:32pm dale: henry - are those actually the artists? morrisey sounds like a peanuts version of morrisey.
	6:32pm kevlicki: I’d like to read his piece. So much of why I like bands is their participation in social life and politics. What would the AI Godspeed you black emperor or Fugazi’s politics and Indy spirit actually be?!
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: @Ken/HydePark it's not that hard. And I might actually do it.
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: @kevlicki it's a great read. Linked up at left - the Stereogum piece.
	🤖 6:33pm Bas NL: Thanks Ryan!
	🤖 6:33pm Webhamster Henry: @dale the lyrics come from processing artist's songs, but the music and production was done by humans.
	🤖 6:34pm Handy Haversack: Good guest. Solid talk. Some nightmare hellscapes are cultural -- though there might be some physical discomfort as well. Consult your AI to learn more!
	6:34pm dale: dug into a couple more - i see it's kind of a ktel production done in the style of.
	6:36pm Megaroni: Good to hear you back on your show Mark!
	🤖 6:36pm Webhamster Henry: There's a similar effort to fake visual art and photography. Newer versions of Photo editing software is pretty good at synthesizing matching textures to clean up bad details in pictures.
	6:37pm dale: beach boys
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: Let's see some guesses
	6:37pm melinda: hi everyone
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: @Megaroni thanks! Glad you're with us
	6:38pm Carmichael: Fun Fun Fun
	6:38pm Cp304: Peggy sue?
	6:38pm Cp304: Who let the dogs out?
	6:38pm Your Ace From Exchange Place: It does sound like the Beach Boys, but being played backwards.
	6:38pm Fredericks: Early Beatles
	6:38pm dale: prince? simply red?
	6:39pm Fredericks: #2
	6:39pm dale: ella.
	6:39pm listener james from westwood: "Is it a cosplay Aw, ship me a shot"
	🤖 6:39pm Webhamster Henry: Ella!
	6:39pm Fredericks: Billie Holiday
	6:39pm WR: 3 Ella's Fitzgerald
	6:40pm diciassette: I second Ella for 3
	6:40pm Your Ace From Exchange Place: Ella.
	6:40pm Carmichael: Love
	6:40pm Fredericks: Probably right about Ella.
	6:40pm dale: georoge michael.
	🤖 6:40pm Ken From Hyde Park: David Bowie
	6:40pm listener james from westwood: Imagine Dragons?
	6:40pm Dave Miss: Joel Osteen
	6:40pm Fredericks: Queen
	🤖 6:40pm Bas NL: Queen?
	6:40pm Carmichael: The Communards
	6:40pm David in London: This must be Don Felder.
	6:41pm WR: #1 I thought Queen for the first few bars than not
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: Coldplay?
	6:41pm dale: oh -queen. interesting.
	6:41pm David in London: Last one was Queen I reckon.
	6:41pm Cp304: 4 Robert williams
	6:42pm WR: Good guess dale
	6:42pm dale: let's play this game every week!
	6:42pm ultradamno: I wouldn't be able to guess Erasure if you played Erasure.
	6:42pm northguineahills: 0/4!
	6:42pm Fredericks: I got 2 1/2
	🤖 6:42pm Handy Haversack: 1/4!
	6:42pm WR: +1 ultradamno.
	🤖 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: Can Clay Pigeon use this game for Wake 'n' Bake?
	6:43pm Carmichael: O-fer ....
	6:43pm queems: i thought it was pronounced “kyle”
	6:43pm listener james from westwood: How is ol' Grimey?
	6:43pm David in London: Someone, somewhere is making AI pastiches of Erasure. Just meditate on that for a while until its full horrible meaning becomes apparent.
	6:44pm Mark Hurst: @Fredericks I think you won! Nice work
	6:44pm Fredericks: Those CGI eyes that Mark posted look similar to Zuckerberg's peepers.
	6:44pm Fredericks: Thanks, Mark! Send me some Vaporware.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: The AI Jukebox has lots and lots and lots of bands represented.
	6:45pm northguineahills: I'd like to here its take on Beck...
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: When I do audio synth experiments, my go-to band is the Shaggs.
	6:47pm sim: "Police brutality has increased, video recording of it has." Will Smith.
	6:47pm Fredericks: I am not very familiar with Erasure. After reading David's comment and I don't think I'll be changing that situation.
	6:47pm sim: *brutality has not
	6:47pm lukavino: just seeing this now, so gotta catch the archive, but reading Astral Weeks now and it’s incredible.
	6:48pm Peter from Dover NJ: Mark, thank you for not saying his name.
	6:49pm sim: Erasure did great Abba covers. Also, they did the soundtrack to [as] Robot Unicorn app/game.
	6:49pm ultradamno: John Oliver on the looting/shooting line: "It is truly astounding how Donald Trump has managed to live 74 years with a remedial understanding of spelling, grammar, geography, science, civics, nutrition and child development and yet he's the fucking Library of Alexandria when it comes to racist maxims of the 20th century."
	6:49pm JakeGould: “Warning: Explicit Lyrics”
	6:50pm queems: mark zuckerburg is AI
	6:51pm ultradamno: He's just 74? It seems like he's been alive for 74 years in just the last 3
	6:51pm David in London: “The future Mr Gittes, the future.”
	6:51pm Fredericks: So, billionaires are hoarders. How do you free someone from their monetary obsession?
	6:53pm ultradamno: Having him on Twitter has been (Garrett Morris voice) very, very good for Twitter.
	6:53pm melinda: @Fredericks yeah, I think of it as money hoarding too.
	🤖 6:53pm Ken From Hyde Park: ... Forget Facebook, Toss Twitter ...
	6:53pm RyanHWalsh: @lukavino wow I love hearing that! enjoy!
	6:53pm sim: @Fredericks. Chimps will share bananas unless you give them a pile of bananas that they couldn't eat before they spoil. Then they fight off the other chimps.
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark!
	🤖 6:54pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Bye all!
	6:54pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Mark! @Fredericks: The French called it "the national razor."
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:54pm David in London: Thanks Mark, great show.
	6:54pm JakeGould: Says what you will about rich people who collect art or live like rich people, but at least they use their money to fund museums and art institutions and foundations that attempt to redistribute their wealth. Laugh if you will, but when was the last time you heard of any tech billionaire truly support the arts on a public level. Maybe Paul Allen from Microsoft or Peter Norton in various roles but that’s old school money. These new dot com rich kids only do “cool” things.
	6:55pm Fredericks: Is that true, Sim?
	6:55pm WR: Wow. Cuomo said that.
	6:55pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone, appreciate you tuning in today. Thanks again to Ryan Walsh for being with us.
	6:56pm ultradamno: Journalist on MSNBC are more interested in assigning specific blame (why you can't watch it for 30 seconds without hearing antifa or anarchist) off little to no direct evidence for fires and violence than on those exact fact Cuomo just laid out.
	6:57pm WR: Thank you Mark. Thank you.
	🤖 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Ryan & bots. Our assignment is what, now? Send a brief voice recording of an appropriate pandemic quarantine activity / movie / book?
	6:58pm Fredericks: Thanks for the show, Mark. Compelling and fun.
	6:59pm Cp304: Good stuff
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP send me a sound file of your pandemic-viewing recommendation, TV or movie
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @WR @Fredericks @cp304 thanks!
	🤖 7:00pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark! I'll send you something!
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Gotcha, Mark. Thanks!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 1, 2020

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June 1, 2020: Ryan Walsh, discussing the OpenAI Jukebox

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Tonight: Ryan Walsh, discussing the OpenAI Jukebox

About Ryan Walsh:

• Article: Do Electric Songwriters Dream Of Human Muses? (by Ryan Walsh in Stereogum, May 13): "On OpenAI JukeBox, human creativity, and the future of AI-generated music."

• Book: Astral Weeks: A Secret History of 1968, now in paperback

• Band: Hallelujah the Hills and their new album I'm You

• Twitter: @jahhills

• Blog: Ryan H. Walsh - Tumblr

OpenAI Jukebox:

• OpenAI Jukebox

• Jukebox sample explorer

• Soundcloud account

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• Facebook Executives Shut Down Efforts to Make the Site Less Divisive (WSJ, May 26)

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Artist	Track	Approx. start time
Ryan Walsh discusses OpenAI Jukebox and how AI-generated music could affect working musicians.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with Ryan Walsh, Part 1 "Interview with Ryan Walsh, Part 1"	0:05:31 (Pop-up)
OpenAI Jukebox	Rock, in the style of Elvis Presley	0:11:24 (Pop-up)
	Interview with Ryan Walsh, Part 2 "Interview with Ryan Walsh, Part 2"	0:20:07 (Pop-up)
OpenAI Jukebox	Dream Pop, in the style of Marissa Nadler	0:20:34 (Pop-up)
	Quiz Time "Quiz Time"	0:34:06 (Pop-up)
OpenAI Jukebox	Pop, in the style of The Beatles	0:35:02 (Pop-up)
OpenAI Jukebox	Erasure "Erasure" by "OpenAI Jukebox"	0:36:11 (Pop-up)
OpenAI Jukebox	Ella Fitzgerald "Ella Fitzgerald" by "OpenAI Jukebox"	0:37:07 (Pop-up)
OpenAI Jukebox	Queen "Queen" by "OpenAI Jukebox"	0:38:02 (Pop-up)
	Mark's comments after the interview "Mark's comments after the interview"	0:43:01 (Pop-up)
Governor Andrew Cuomo	Press conference excerpt	0:52:03 (Pop-up)
Hallelujah the Hills	Folk Music is Insane	0:53:02 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techt-I-Ficial Intelligentsia
	6:01pm David in London: Hello one and all. Tech me up please Mr Hurst.
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon drives! Ultradamno, David, good to see you both.
	🤖 6:02pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Mark + Friends.
	🤖 6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonidactyls!
	6:02pm JakeGould: Hey!
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Hello Mark! TechtonAIcs!
	6:02pm ultradamno: Hiya Handy
	6:02pm David in London: Hey Handy. Read about your epic jaunt today - sounds very much like mine last week. Hi Ultradamno.
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Mark! Techtomorphs!
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: I was thinking just that, David!
	6:03pm WR: I'm on board with this.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: There's supposedly a Strike of some sort at Facebook tomorrow.
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	6:04pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	6:04pm Dave Miss: Hello all. We’re almost 1/2 way thru this year.
	6:04pm JohnEBGood: Your show is awesome.
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Tonight's show ties in with Scott's show from a few weeks ago.
	6:04pm JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: It was today and it was a “virtual walkout”… Meh… www.cnbc.com...
	6:04pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining in!
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: @JohnEBGood thanks
	🤖 6:05pm Webhamster Henry: @JakeGould dates - so hard to find on articles!
	6:05pm kevlicki: Hi everyone! What a time the new upside down world is! Plenty of surveillance happening rn! Tuning in to “escape” from the world
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Most if not all AI Jukebox tunes are limited to 1 minute.
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: I use Open AI's Transformer / GPT-2 a whole lot.
	6:09pm kevlicki: DHS drones are being used over Minneapolis for surveillance purposes https://gizmodo.com/customs-and-border-protection-flew-a-predator-surveilla-1843758034
	6:11pm JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: The “virtual walkout” reads like such bullshit. People who worked from home just didn’t work from home and all many of them did is change their avatars or post fist emojis next to black hearts. If one were really conspiracy theorist this is such a sad effort one can almost imagine this as some way for Facebook to attempt to force all protesting online; thus making this all clean and easy.
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: Links to OpenAI Jukebox, and Ryan's Stereogum article, are all in the links section at left.
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: We're not far from the 34th St. heliport here, but the helicopter sounds have been pretty constant for the last few hours out here.
	6:15pm listener james from westwood: Oh you gotta pull the plug on that Elvis Skynet thing. Kill it before it taps into NORAD.
	6:15pm Peter from Dover NJ: That fake Elvis song wouldn't fool anyone with a brain and an affinity for music. Scary how AI cobbled the song together though.
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: talktotranformer.com
	6:15pm dale: i dug faux elvis - or felvis if you will.
	6:15pm ultradamno: Let us live i.ytimg.com...
	6:16pm JakeGould: @ListenerJames: That Elvis AI will want to go on a road trip and visit Nixon.
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: ahem... talktotransformer.com
	6:18pm JakeGould: @WebamsterHenry: Tyat will really revolutionize click-bait websites.
	🤖 6:18pm Webhamster Henry: Like Botnik, the huge amount of GPT2 generated content - which is not so bad -has humans editing it to get good examples.
	🤖 6:19pm Bas NL: @WH I just entered: I'm listening to Techtonic because..
	6:20pm sim: I believe the Elvis lyrics say more about the technologists who trained the AI, than the AI itself.
	6:21pm Cp304: Good evening peoples.. Mark I just got a chance to say I love the show
	6:23pm dale: why does it all have to sound like it's recorded on cassette over the shortwave?
	6:23pm JakeGould: I just entered: “Why was George Floyd killed? And what can be done to stop attacks on black people like that.” And one line in the AI generated text victim-blamed him: “If something had been done years ago to stop him from having such a life.” ibb.co... Way to go A.I.!
	6:24pm David in London: They all come out sounding like Charles Manson songs.
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: The OpenAI site has the technical paper on the AI Jukebox.Some of its possibilities and sound quality is based on the limitations of the technique it uses to present the sound to the AI, which is 3 bands of CELP -like encoding to pull the bandwidth really far down, and also it can't correlate too far inthe past.
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: @Cp304 thanks!
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: CELP - is like the encoding used for phones. Code-excited linear prediction.
	6:26pm Peter from Dover NJ: @JakeGould 6:23. Wow, just wow.
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: The paper mentions other sone based machine learning, like that used by Mel-net, which is way better sounding, but would take way more resources to encode the same amount of data used by the Jukebox.
	6:27pm sim: The project seems to be an example of Searle's Chinese Room.
	6:27pm dale: i'd like to hear the real artist record the a.i. version.
	🤖 6:27pm Webhamster Henry: GPT-2 was trained on reddit responses, and there's a definite creepy libertarian spin to its responses if you don't feed it a lot af initial text.
	6:28pm sim: Artists (and everyone) could live fine on UBI and universal health care.
	6:28pm RyanHWalsh: Hi everyone, I'm Ryan. Mark was nice enough to interview me for the show tonight. Thanks for listening and reading!
	6:29pm Mark Hurst: Hi Ryan! Thanks for joining in! Really enjoyed our interview.
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: @dale, well, there is the Songularity from Botik, another former Techtonic guest. botnik.org...
	🤖 6:30pm Webhamster Henry: AI doesn't ned to take over the world. Just taking over the stock market will do plenty of damage.
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, Webham. Here's Botnik - AI-inspired music - on Techtonic October 8, 2018: www.wfmu.org...
	6:30pm sim: AI is the hammer. We are the nails.
	6:31pm WR: So performers will need protect their sound & styles, not just their compositions. Slippery slope but what alternatives.
	🤖 6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: What it the AI were trained with WFMU comments board text?
	6:32pm ultradamno: I'm sure Robo Pan Alley could come up with as good Selena Gomez or Demi Lovato songs as they do...
	6:32pm dale: henry - are those actually the artists? morrisey sounds like a peanuts version of morrisey.
	6:32pm kevlicki: I’d like to read his piece. So much of why I like bands is their participation in social life and politics. What would the AI Godspeed you black emperor or Fugazi’s politics and Indy spirit actually be?!
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: @Ken/HydePark it's not that hard. And I might actually do it.
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: @kevlicki it's a great read. Linked up at left - the Stereogum piece.
	🤖 6:33pm Bas NL: Thanks Ryan!
	🤖 6:33pm Webhamster Henry: @dale the lyrics come from processing artist's songs, but the music and production was done by humans.
	🤖 6:34pm Handy Haversack: Good guest. Solid talk. Some nightmare hellscapes are cultural -- though there might be some physical discomfort as well. Consult your AI to learn more!
	6:34pm dale: dug into a couple more - i see it's kind of a ktel production done in the style of.
	6:36pm Megaroni: Good to hear you back on your show Mark!
	🤖 6:36pm Webhamster Henry: There's a similar effort to fake visual art and photography. Newer versions of Photo editing software is pretty good at synthesizing matching textures to clean up bad details in pictures.
	6:37pm dale: beach boys
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: Let's see some guesses
	6:37pm melinda: hi everyone
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: @Megaroni thanks! Glad you're with us
	6:38pm Carmichael: Fun Fun Fun
	6:38pm Cp304: Peggy sue?
	6:38pm Cp304: Who let the dogs out?
	6:38pm Your Ace From Exchange Place: It does sound like the Beach Boys, but being played backwards.
	6:38pm Fredericks: Early Beatles
	6:38pm dale: prince? simply red?
	6:39pm Fredericks: #2
	6:39pm dale: ella.
	6:39pm listener james from westwood: "Is it a cosplay Aw, ship me a shot"
	🤖 6:39pm Webhamster Henry: Ella!
	6:39pm Fredericks: Billie Holiday
	6:39pm WR: 3 Ella's Fitzgerald
	6:40pm diciassette: I second Ella for 3
	6:40pm Your Ace From Exchange Place: Ella.
	6:40pm Carmichael: Love
	6:40pm Fredericks: Probably right about Ella.
	6:40pm dale: georoge michael.
	🤖 6:40pm Ken From Hyde Park: David Bowie
	6:40pm listener james from westwood: Imagine Dragons?
	6:40pm Dave Miss: Joel Osteen
	6:40pm Fredericks: Queen
	🤖 6:40pm Bas NL: Queen?
	6:40pm Carmichael: The Communards
	6:40pm David in London: This must be Don Felder.
	6:41pm WR: #1 I thought Queen for the first few bars than not
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: Coldplay?
	6:41pm dale: oh -queen. interesting.
	6:41pm David in London: Last one was Queen I reckon.
	6:41pm Cp304: 4 Robert williams
	6:42pm WR: Good guess dale
	6:42pm dale: let's play this game every week!
	6:42pm ultradamno: I wouldn't be able to guess Erasure if you played Erasure.
	6:42pm northguineahills: 0/4!
	6:42pm Fredericks: I got 2 1/2
	🤖 6:42pm Handy Haversack: 1/4!
	6:42pm WR: +1 ultradamno.
	🤖 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: Can Clay Pigeon use this game for Wake 'n' Bake?
	6:43pm Carmichael: O-fer ....
	6:43pm queems: i thought it was pronounced “kyle”
	6:43pm listener james from westwood: How is ol' Grimey?
	6:43pm David in London: Someone, somewhere is making AI pastiches of Erasure. Just meditate on that for a while until its full horrible meaning becomes apparent.
	6:44pm Mark Hurst: @Fredericks I think you won! Nice work
	6:44pm Fredericks: Those CGI eyes that Mark posted look similar to Zuckerberg's peepers.
	6:44pm Fredericks: Thanks, Mark! Send me some Vaporware.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: The AI Jukebox has lots and lots and lots of bands represented.
	6:45pm northguineahills: I'd like to here its take on Beck...
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: When I do audio synth experiments, my go-to band is the Shaggs.
	6:47pm sim: "Police brutality has increased, video recording of it has." Will Smith.
	6:47pm Fredericks: I am not very familiar with Erasure. After reading David's comment and I don't think I'll be changing that situation.
	6:47pm sim: *brutality has not
	6:47pm lukavino: just seeing this now, so gotta catch the archive, but reading Astral Weeks now and it’s incredible.
	6:48pm Peter from Dover NJ: Mark, thank you for not saying his name.
	6:49pm sim: Erasure did great Abba covers. Also, they did the soundtrack to [as] Robot Unicorn app/game.
	6:49pm ultradamno: John Oliver on the looting/shooting line: "It is truly astounding how Donald Trump has managed to live 74 years with a remedial understanding of spelling, grammar, geography, science, civics, nutrition and child development and yet he's the fucking Library of Alexandria when it comes to racist maxims of the 20th century."
	6:49pm JakeGould: “Warning: Explicit Lyrics”
	6:50pm queems: mark zuckerburg is AI
	6:51pm ultradamno: He's just 74? It seems like he's been alive for 74 years in just the last 3
	6:51pm David in London: “The future Mr Gittes, the future.”
	6:51pm Fredericks: So, billionaires are hoarders. How do you free someone from their monetary obsession?
	6:53pm ultradamno: Having him on Twitter has been (Garrett Morris voice) very, very good for Twitter.
	6:53pm melinda: @Fredericks yeah, I think of it as money hoarding too.
	🤖 6:53pm Ken From Hyde Park: ... Forget Facebook, Toss Twitter ...
	6:53pm RyanHWalsh: @lukavino wow I love hearing that! enjoy!
	6:53pm sim: @Fredericks. Chimps will share bananas unless you give them a pile of bananas that they couldn't eat before they spoil. Then they fight off the other chimps.
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark!
	🤖 6:54pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Bye all!
	6:54pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Mark! @Fredericks: The French called it "the national razor."
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:54pm David in London: Thanks Mark, great show.
	6:54pm JakeGould: Says what you will about rich people who collect art or live like rich people, but at least they use their money to fund museums and art institutions and foundations that attempt to redistribute their wealth. Laugh if you will, but when was the last time you heard of any tech billionaire truly support the arts on a public level. Maybe Paul Allen from Microsoft or Peter Norton in various roles but that’s old school money. These new dot com rich kids only do “cool” things.
	6:55pm Fredericks: Is that true, Sim?
	6:55pm WR: Wow. Cuomo said that.
	6:55pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone, appreciate you tuning in today. Thanks again to Ryan Walsh for being with us.
	6:56pm ultradamno: Journalist on MSNBC are more interested in assigning specific blame (why you can't watch it for 30 seconds without hearing antifa or anarchist) off little to no direct evidence for fires and violence than on those exact fact Cuomo just laid out.
	6:57pm WR: Thank you Mark. Thank you.
	🤖 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Ryan & bots. Our assignment is what, now? Send a brief voice recording of an appropriate pandemic quarantine activity / movie / book?
	6:58pm Fredericks: Thanks for the show, Mark. Compelling and fun.
	6:59pm Cp304: Good stuff
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP send me a sound file of your pandemic-viewing recommendation, TV or movie
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @WR @Fredericks @cp304 thanks!
	🤖 7:00pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark! I'll send you something!
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Gotcha, Mark. Thanks!

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