WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from May 21, 2020

Listener comments!
	9:01am Soundeq: we love you Clay
	9:01am p20: we're in trouble now!
	♥ 9:01am Trouble: good morning thursday morning land.....
	♥ 9:02am David (in London): I'm from the past. May I gain admittance to the Modern World? Hello Trouble, and the Troublesome.
	9:02am Deborah: Good Morning continues....
	9:02am p20: D(iL): I always thought London was 5 or 6 hours in the future
	♥ 9:03am Handy Haversack: Good Thursday, Trouble and all the Troubled. Sounding great already. David, p20, Deborah -- glad to be in a World with you, even a Modern one.
	9:03am rasszzyy (Sweden): Tttrrrrooouuubbbbllleeeeee! It must be Thursday! Good afternoon everyone! (or I guess, good morning for most)
	♥ 9:03am steveo: Good morning. Lovely opening. I got my ears on.
	9:04am p20: I could listen to Meg Baird all day ... (eyes "B" section of record shelf)
	9:04am kpx: the thing about trouble is that it's always looming around the corner.
	♥ 9:06am MikeG: I ♥ Meg
	9:06am kpx: bonjour mademoiselle trouble.
	9:07am p20: oh there's a preview track from her upcoming (delayed) album. got to check that out (on her bandcamp)
	♥ 9:07am Threemoons: Goood morning Trouble, fellow Troublemakers. Didn't log on in time to say Hi on Clay's shift but I was there also...
	♥ 9:07am Phillippe Bastille: Good morning, Troubled and troubled troublemakers! Hey Handy, hey DiL, hey P20!
	9:07am seth from muddy creek: Hearts all over this set
	♥ 9:08am David (in London): p20 - I'm living in the past in the future. It's all very confusing. Hey Handy, Phillippe, steveo!
	9:08am Lixiviated Life: ok lets go
	9:09am ami ad: Hello D.J. Hello all.Chirp chirp from the BK,they picked up the recycling today.Hoora to the workers.Chirp.
	♥ 9:09am Pale Son: Good morning! Love the Sun Ra pic and the music so far. :)
	♥ 9:09am Trouble: friday is your last chance to get %15 off at the wfmu store: t-shirts, water bottles, notepads, sweatshirts, artwork. Check it ouuuuuuut
	♥ 9:09am melinda: Hi friends
	♥ 9:09am StringOFperils: Future, past, past, future....I'm still stuck at wondering whose myth I am.
	♥ 9:12am David (in London): Hi Melinda.
	9:13am AndrewC.: No birdsong records needed today - actual birds outside are really going for it, and the bluetit parents are in and out of the nestbox continually (hopefully) feeding the young'ns.
	♥ 9:15am Handy Haversack: I was hearing a very angry blue jay scream out front, but now I'm surrounded by extremely loud purring as two of the cats take their postprandial nap next to me. As soon as it warms up a touch, I'll head outside to work in the sparrow sounds.
	9:15am p20: @Trouble: I wanted to let you know I took your suggestion and watched the Piketty film (Capital) - watched most of it twice, actually. It was very good, reminded me a bit of "The Big Short" in its (successful) attempt to make economics accessible to general audiences. The economists and professors they interviewed were great. I'd suggest the film to anyone. I admire Piketty and I think he's doing a lot of good in the world. But at the end of the day I'm a lot further to the left than he is - he thinks capitalism can be saved by changing policies (mostly taxation), whereas I'm pretty convinced that it needs to be demolished. But I see anyone who is advocating any sort of leftist reforms, no matter how mild, as an ally. So thanks for the movie suggestion & the conversation it triggered. (Did any other listeners check it out?)
	9:19am Bill W: Made it to p 50 of the book. Lots of graphs.
	♥ 9:19am Trouble: i hear you on the demolish part @P20, but i can't ever see that happening in these united states, or many countries for that matter. Legislation to curb private greed is the best we can hope for, and even that seems far fetched right now with the all about me party in charge
	♥ 9:19am Pale Son: @p20 No, but I did read the articles that you and Trouble had suggested and found them both very worthwhile. Have been recommending to others, thank you!
	9:20am meredith: morning all! From rainy Carrboro, NC
	9:20am waters7: Good morning, Trouble and fellow listeners.
	♥ 9:20am Trouble: hellllo bill w!
	9:20am mongo: Hamza Al Din AWWWWWWESOME TROUBLE WHEEEW
	♥ 9:20am Handy Haversack: Well said, p20. I somehow missed that there was a Piketty movie?
	9:21am p20: @BillW: Yeah, I think it's great they made a movie out of it. I didn't have time/energy to read the book either. The movie is very approachable.
	9:21am thedunkel: Good Morning Trouble! Good Morning All!
	♥ 9:21am Irene Trudel: Another beautiful start to the morning with your musical selections. Thank you, Trouble!
	9:22am ami ad: Did people think the Wall will fall?Communism?This Capitalism Shall Not Stand.
	♥ 9:22am Irene Trudel: That playlist picture of Sun Ra is also quite beautiful.
	9:22am p20: @PaleSon: Glad you liked and recommended the article. The "What is the economy for?" section of that "Four Futures" article sums up my viewpoint perfectly, which saves me a lot of work trying to write it down :)
	♥ 9:23am Trouble: good morning@irene! thanks!
	9:23am kpx: ah yes, all the serene peaceful tweeting dirty little birdies. so wonderful to observe, even the ones from 'The Tennessee bird walk'. walking South in their dirty underwear. well actually thats more funny see.
	9:25am βrian: I like your playlist image, and I like that it's not an animated gif.
	♥ 9:26am melinda: @p20 I haven't yet checked out Capital, thanks for the reminder.
	♥ 9:26am austin: fresh espresso, nice sun above, and trouble's tunes! thank you as always for the selections~
	♥ 9:27am Crudbringer: The Trouble With Crud. Morning everybody. Why is it the People Who Believe In Rules that are the ones who don't like to follow the rules?
	♥ 9:28am Pale Son: @p20 Yes, and the actual Four Futures diagram reminded me so much of one of the best bits I ever got from my high school economics class, way back in the day. A diagram with democracy–dictatorship on one axis, private–public ownership on the other, dividing the space into four economic-political systems: capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism. It's such a clear and simple way to think about some pretty huge and complex ideas.
	♥ 9:29am melinda: This morning I dreamed that I had to return to work but that my boss had changed the purpose of our store and we had to serve fried chicken and felafel, with no personal protective gear. I find that even when my mood is fine during the day I still have stress dreams.
	♥ 9:30am Handy Haversack: You rule, Crudbringer! melinda, the other night I had my first dream about being outside and having forgotten a mask.
	9:30am p20: @Trouble: How have I never heard Annette Peacock before? Just looked up her amazing biography. Hung out with Timothy Leary at Millbrook, learned macrobiotics from Michio Kushi, first singer to use a Moog with her voice. Your show continues to educate, thanks. Going to back off a bit on the commenting - I keep getting too loquacious and hitting the quota - but I'm here listening attentively, and dreaming about a better world for everyone.
	9:30am Lixiviated Life: Birds?
	♥ 9:30am steveo: Number 9…?
	♥ 9:31am Crudbringer: .... "But this is the NEW normal!"
	9:31am βrian: The gnu gnormal, maybe?
	♥ 9:32am melinda: @Pale Son does anarcho-syndicalism fit into that diagram?
	9:33am kpx: the wall of greed and corruption must ultimately fall if there's ever going to be equality on all levels no matter who you are.
	9:33am Lixiviated Life: When the aliens land will they all be driving a beige Chevy Malibu ?
	9:34am p20: ("normal" is one of those words that should always be in quotes, like "reality")
	♥ 9:34am Pale Son: @melinda Not really, because some kind of government is assumed on the democracy–dictatorship axis.
	9:34am Lixiviated Life: No, The Aliens drive beige 1974 Chevy Nova's
	♥ 9:35am steveo: The birds are a blessing at our place. Also, today there are juvenile squirrels playing in the hollow part of the catalpa.
	9:35am βrian: Porque no va?
	♥ 9:35am Crudbringer: @Pale Son right, it's like that diagram is just one cross-section of the possible anarcho-verse.
	9:35am Slaboch: Arthur Russell's birthday today too!
	9:35am p20: @melinda: you could add a square hanging off the edge, to the left of 'socialism'
	♥ 9:35am Crudbringer: all locations outside that plane are just different versions of "nothing to see here".
	9:36am ?: hi trouble. can we buy your live cd?
	9:36am p20: @Crudbringer: I think you could make the same critique of any map, no? It's still a useful thing.
	♥ 9:37am StringOFperils: Placed a reserve/hold on Pikkety's Capital In the 21st Century. I have only seen snippets of (documentary?) video featuring Pikkety's ideas. I (with no intention to be argumentative here), am less positive about how it's all going, so fresh outside considerations can't hurt.
	♥ 9:37am Crudbringer: Sure, all maps have a limited domain of application, but are useful within that domain.
	9:37am Aquebogue: Can you imagine a wedding that Marshall Allen and the Arkestra played at. It was wild!
	♥ 9:38am Adrian in London: Hi Trouble, and Troublees, comic in late because I was having the lunch my wife kindly made me. A great perk of working from home!
	♥ 9:38am Crudbringer: More and more, I think of "civil society" as a bourgeois fantasia. The very-rich and very-poor understand & accept that nature is red in tooth & claw and the only thing to do is survive.
	9:38am βrian: SOPeril: So you reserved the book or the documentary?
	♥ 9:38am Trouble: @?: all the premiums that WFMU dj's make are available when you make a donation to WFMU. $75 donation gets you my last fundraising premium, plus a tshirt!
	9:39am Deborah: @HandyHaversack 9:03 Reciprocal thoughts here! Thank you.
	♥ 9:41am StringOFperils: @Brian...the book Brian. I think the depth offered within the book, will be more useful to me....extrapolating hope out of all of this (and the history of the human race) has become difficult for me. So...the book, or A book, rather.
	9:42am βrian: @SOPerils: That should keep ya busy!
	9:42am kpx: does anyone remember the K car from the 70s. it was supposed to be a cheap no thrills affordable car. I can't remember the manufacturer?
	9:43am βrian: Chrysler. I thought it was the 80s.
	♥ 9:43am Crudbringer: Ahh, the Dodge Aries K. Further evidence of a random, hateful universe.
	♥ 9:43am Crudbringer: Yeah, the "K" was a shared platform used by ChryPlymDodge, right?
	9:43am Rev. Turnip Druid: Aries K. The quintessential corporate car.
	9:43am Aquebogue: Love the Annette Peacock today! Thanks for that!!! Great ring mod.
	♥ 9:44am StringOFperils: @Brian....I NEED to be kept busy. In a bit of a rut lately, with one thing and another.
	9:44am βrian: K-car: en.wikipedia.org...
	9:45am p20: @Crudbringer: I think "nature red in tooth and claw" is a bit of a fantasy too. First of all, Nature is complex. Ants live in cooperative societies. There are all kinds of examples of cooperation and symbiosis. Secondly, we don't live in a state of nature. We live in a constructed social system. And we should have some say in the construction of said system. And I think we should try to uphold basic Enlightenment values, which have been around for hundreds of years.
	9:46am Jeezuseffinchrist: @p-20, hear hear
	9:46am Dave Conehead: Awesome tunes for the moment
	9:47am p20: And in lots of ways, the capitalist system we've devised is more brutal than anything to be found in the natural world. Look at how many people someone like Bezos (on track to become the first trillionaire) can dominate. In a nature-based society his power would be much more limited. (And he'd probably get eaten).
	9:47am Jeffrey Davison: Good morning, Trouble and all sojourners here...
	♥ 9:47am melinda: @Pale Son makes sense. The context in which I heard it first described in a positive light is different from the Wiki definition I just looked up.
	♥ 9:48am Crudbringer: @p20 agree, except that I think the "construction" of our social system increasingly resembles the physical construction of our bridges and schools. Men with spade beards and Deep Bleefs about their Hairtidge are polishing their guns. I think the "brutality" of the system is just the natural result of the lack of any "rules" at all.
	♥ 9:48am Trouble: good morning jeffrey! how goes it?
	9:49am Jeezuseffinchrist: @p20 one could only dream
	♥ 9:49am Crudbringer: Or rather "rules for thee, enforcement of the rules for me"
	♥ 9:50am melinda: Nature is about cooperation as well as competition.
	♥ 9:50am Crudbringer: Hi Jeffrey. Sorry, we're gonna figure it all out & fix it here in a second, then Trouble can start spinning some Ethel Merman platters.
	9:51am Jeezy: Oy veyshmir. Wotta world we live in...
	9:52am βrian: I traded my bleefs for a couple of spleefs.
	♥ 9:52am StringOFperils: Unqualified agreement on that Jeezy.
	♥ 9:52am Handy Haversack: @p20, I think one of the books I mentioned in our recommendation fest some weeks ago was Amatka, which I think does one of the better jobs of trying -- mimetically, at least -- to figure what lies on the other side of change we are poorly able to imagine. When the capitalist system that has defined brutal life on this planet for hundreds of years is brought down, what does life look like? It's hard hard hard to get one's imagination past that point of singularity. But extractive capitalism might and tends toward ending only when there's nothing left to extract and no one left to (force to) extract it.
	9:53am hey buddy: Knocking it out of the park again! Thanks trouble!
	♥ 9:53am Crudbringer: I dunno. That Beaver documentary notwithstanding, I think the "cooperation" observed in nature is ephemeral at best, or specious. I'm not sure what ants do is "cooperating", with a happy heart and a clear mind.
	9:53am Itzall Hear: Hello Trouble and all the people. Lots to do today and it's great to have this fine show to accompany that! That's me in the corner--
	9:53am Glorious Estephonic: Basho <3 <3 <3
	9:54am Jeezuseffinchrist: btw, I just wanted to say that the guitar in that Loving song really reminded me alot of a Nature and Organisation song I absolutely adore, Tears for an Eastern Girl: open.spotify.com...
	9:56am kpx: true, but along comes man and channels nature through a greedy non-cooperation configuration and turns everything into a toxic waste.
	♥ 9:56am StringOFperils: I'm glad that we all have THIS, for the time-being. May it continue to live on, and not just as memory.
	♥ 9:57am melinda: @Handy sounds interesting @Crudbringer cooperating might not be the best word, but not everything is zero-sum. Trees provide each other with nutrients via huge underground fungal systems. Reciprocal altruism was an important discovery in evolutionary theory.
	♥ 9:58am Crudbringer: @kpx just like a beaver builds a dam. I had a big falling-out with my holy-roller manager this week. He approvingly quoted Elon Musk, and said "He's not afraid to say what he thinks, even if it's unpopular!" I said, "Maybe it's unpopular because it's stupid." Him: "Nope." Now he's acting all butt-hurt. I can't see why. I was just saying what I think, without caring whether it was a popular thing to say. I had been hoping it would increase his respect for me.
	9:58am Jeezy: Yassss, @Jeezuse... that is a great track....!
	♥ 9:59am melinda: @Crudbringer haha
	9:59am Lixiviated Life: Robbie's guitar string The sound of spring birds singing No Basho Haiku
	10:00am Jeffrey Davison: Trouble, it's going okay. This morning I fixed the internet, launched a satellite to help upload my show, bought a BMW 507 at auction, and played some polo with Prince Charles.
	♥ 10:01am Crudbringer: (oh yeah thanks @JD for that internet thing btw)
	♥ 10:01am Passaic River Blues: @Melinda: I agree with you here. Perhaps "cooperation" implies too much intention. "Balance" and "equilibration" seem to be inherent components of natural systems, something missing from most human endeavors. @Crudbringer: hahahaha
	10:03am Jeffrey Davison: Crudbringer...you're welcome. I'm a problem solver.
	♥ 10:04am melinda: @Jeffrey save us from Legionnaire's Disease!
	♥ 10:05am Crudbringer: oh god is LD still a thing?
	10:06am Jeffrey Davison: That's my afternoon project. (it's still a thing, for real).
	10:06am p20: YES. SUN RA. YES.
	10:07am Fredericks: I love June Tyson-eRa Ra.
	10:07am Malcolm: Looking forward to this set. lanquidity is the only sun ra album i've delved into in any depth. It's beautiful, also has june tyson vocals
	10:08am Aquebogue: I think Tara gives June a run for her money. Your thoughts?
	10:08am p20: Interesting fact: In the 1930's and 40’s Sun Ra was one of the first Afrikan Americans to own his own recording equipment. He set up his own record label (El Saturn Records) in Chicago in 1957. Absolute hero and insipration. sunraarchive.webstarts.com...
	10:10am Itzall Hear: Well. Just about an hour in to the show and my usual record spend is about to occur. I need that June Tyson record, for sure! Trouble, your show is expensive.
	10:10am Fredericks: I applied for a job with Outer Spaceways Incorporated.
	♥ 10:12am Trouble: Jeffrey, you do manage to keep yourself bizzeeeee while helping humankind, that's awesome!
	10:13am Kpx: Popular unpopular agreeing disagreeing who cares maybe it's the effort that one makes that counts
	10:14am WM: Thanks for reminding us all of Sun Ra's birthday. I was lucky to hear the Arkestra live several times with June Tyson, John Gilmore and Marshall Allen. Everyone should read the very good biography Space is the Place by John Szwed.
	10:14am Itzall Hear: Dear Fredericks, don't forget your 'ole chatboard pals if you get your foot in the door with O.S.I.- good luck!!! ;)
	♥ 10:15am Trouble: sorry@itzall, i could try to play unavailable music, would that help? Yes I agree@ WM
	10:15am Crei6hton: Morning!
	♥ 10:15am Crudbringer: (@p20 nice, that Sun Ra link is the hoopiest)
	10:16am Itzall Hear: Dear Trouble, NO!!! But thanks for the gentle offer.
	10:16am Jesse Dorris: Fabulous show so far, @Trouble. Happy Birthday Sun Ra!
	10:20am WM: The first time I heard Sun Ra live was in 1973 at Town Hall in NYC. Years later the concert was released on CD as Concert for the Comet Kohoutek.
	♥ 10:20am Crudbringer: (reading Sun Ra entry on Wikipedia... > In an appeal to the national draft board, [Sun Ra] wrote that the lack of black men on the draft appeal board "smacks of Hitlerism." Too rad!)
	♥ 10:21am Passaic River Blues: @WM: that's awesome!
	♥ 10:22am Handy Haversack: Well, let's take Sun Ra outside, shall we?
	10:23am Fredericks: I won't, Itzalll. I haven't heard anything yet. A letter takes a while to get to Saturn.
	♥ 10:24am Crudbringer: You folded that letter but you forgot to fold space. Has Sun Ra taught you _nothing?_
	♥ 10:25am Trouble: @passaic river blues, I finished optic nerve by maria gainza, will pop it in the mail today or tomorrow. enjoy!
	10:26am Fredericks: Oh, you're right, Cruddy.
	♥ 10:26am Crudbringer: yeah, give it to one of those spice guys in the fishtank
	10:27am Itzall Hear: Thanks, buddy, just be patient, I'm sure they will be in touch!
	♥ 10:27am Handy Haversack: That's better.
	10:28am ranjit: I think i saw the arkestra once at the Bang on a Can festival but that might just be my mind (or somebody else's) playing tricks on me
	♥ 10:30am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and Arkitects. I like how Liz Berg's bed music was a Sun Ra selection.
	♥ 10:30am Pale Son: I was supposed to be seeing the Arkestra here in Halifax next month, but it's not happening now, obv. Too bad!
	♥ 10:32am Passaic River Blues: @Trouble: thank you! Also, we got one of the elegant pandemic masks in the mail yesterday--my wife was thrilled with how beautiful and well made it was.
	♥ 10:33am Webhamster Henry: Don't forget to mention the Sun Ra Remix CD done by WFMU staffers "Interplanetary Remixes: WFMU Reinterprets The Music Of Sun Ra"
	10:34am ranjit: oh wow, Henry, i gotta get that there remix
	10:34am Fredericks: En-Light-Ment!
	10:34am Itzall Hear: Um, dear Webby Hank, where would a person go to find that CD?!?
	♥ 10:35am Trouble: @passaic river blues: fabulous! i believe i wrote sizes on them, and if they don't fit let me know and i can make another size and you can give away the off sized one...wear in good health!
	♥ 10:36am Webhamster Henry: @ranjit WFMU Used to have it in the store. Hmm! Trouble played some cuts from it last year's Sun Ra show (including mine #talksabouthimselfexcessively)
	♥ 10:36am WillCrete: Thanks for is Sun Ra Birthday set Trouble! Magnificent listening this morning.
	♥ 10:37am Handy Haversack: Michele said she'll be adding material to the store this weekend. Maybe it will come back!
	10:38am WO Town Wick: Yo La Tengo got me interested in Sun Ra. Tried to resist but was overcome.
	♥ 10:39am Mick: What an amazing Sun Ra set - thanks Trouble!
	♥ 10:39am Crudbringer: man I may have to build some pyramids this weekend.
	♥ 10:40am steveo: tuba jazz rules
	♥ 10:41am Trouble: gracias@ mick, willcrete, glad to bring the sun ra sounds into the daylight.
	♥ 10:42am steveo: hm no tuba listed; maybe i'm hearing bass clarinet? in which case, bass clarinet jazz rules
	♥ 10:43am Crudbringer: pyramids with rings. In the fourth dimension.
	10:43am Kpx: @crud, seems apropos for someone who is fond of cats.
	10:43am Malcolm: yeaaah lanquidity!
	10:43am David in London: Saw Sun Ra in Liverpool in 1990, and it was the best gig of my life. A truly magical evening. Ian McCulloch of Echo & the Bunnymen was sitting in front of me, but luckily the seating was so steep that his massive hairdo didn’t obscure the proceedings.
	♥ 10:44am Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Trouble & all!
	♥ 10:44am Blacktooth: Tripped out on this Sun-Ra set. Some tunes I'm familiar with. Some not. Absolutely LOVING this long groovy-funky "that's how I feel." Never heard this side of RA.
	♥ 10:44am Crudbringer: I saw E&BM in St. Louis in 1991. It was the first concert I ever went to and I hated it but I bought a long lost t-shirt anyhow.
	♥ 10:46am Threemoons: Me three RE loving this Sun Ra. Need it today.
	♥ 10:47am Handy Haversack: Hey, Greg!
	10:48am Mike & Dusty: I dig it, I dig it all
	♥ 10:50am Trouble: @blacktooth: listening to that cut i thought of kamasi washington...
	10:50am I mark: I’m very confused. Why is WFMU in my cell phone? Space was the place.
	10:52am Harlem Muse: Space is the Place! I heart Saturnian Queen Space June. Thanks for taking us to another world Trouble!
	10:53am I mark: I was born on the southside of Chicago but I had never heard of sun re until I moved. I met a guy worked at tower records in Philadelphia he said he played guitar with the band
	♥ 10:53am Blacktooth: @Trouble: Indeed! Kamasi is a modern artist continuing the traditions of space-exploration through music. I'm a sucker for those places where the jazz & funk do the doe-si-doe.
	10:54am I mark: I don’t know if this is a request or a suggestion but there is a new Nicole Mitchell space thing based on the work of Octavia Butler earth seed
	♥ 10:56am Irene Trudel: I'm loving this Sun Ra journey through space and time today.
	♥ 10:57am Trouble: glad you are along for the ride @ irene
	10:59am Malcolm: great set thanks trouble
	♥ 11:00am Adrian in London: Really enjoying this set.
	♥ 11:00am Passaic River Blues: What a set--perfect closing with "Languidity."
	♥ 11:01am karlward: That was a dope hour
	11:05am duke: I keep getting phone calls. I have to go back to archives to get that set looks wonderful.
	♥ 11:06am alexapharm: omg Providence luv!!!!!
	♥ 11:06am juan: Thank you, trouble, for this wondrous set of Sun Ra. He has been much on my mind lately
	♥ 11:07am alexapharm: My first shows were at Lupo's too. <3
	♥ 11:08am Yes: lovely sounds, trouble. thank you
	♥ 11:08am Trouble: merci! Glad you all enjoyed the magic of sun ra!
	11:10am I mark: There’s a book from 2009 by John Corbett pathway to unknown worlds. John also arranged for Alton Abraham’s papers to be archived at u Chicago. Didn’t know the Sun Ra Providence connection.
	♥ 11:13am Marcel M: @Trouble: did you have pa amb tomàquet with your tortilla?
	♥ 11:14am Webhamster Henry: Thursday Morning is the home of Sun Ra, Alice Coltrane and Nina Simone. These are musicians that are most like French bird calls.
	11:16am Fredericks: Irwin has a connection to Sun Ra, too.
	♥ 11:18am Trouble: @i mark: saw that fantastic show at the ICA in philly, i have the book, it was the catalog. No marcel, sadly we didn't. i wouldn't eat a tomato like that until i saw it grow out of the ground.
	♥ 11:20am Trouble: @frederiks, irwin's connection to sun ra is only in working on reissuing a few releases, within the past years.
	♥ 11:21am Marcel M: @Trouble: You just gotta use the small juicy ones. You only rub them on the bread. Thats what the Catalonians do. Goes amazingly well with tortilla. Add some manchego and jamon iberico and ohhhh baby!
	11:24am Dean: I thought Irwin was the executor of the Sun Ra estate.
	♥ 11:25am Marcel M: @Dean: I think he does own the licensing on behalf of the estate or something like that.
	♥ 11:26am Handy Haversack: @Marcel: Oh hotsie motsie, yeah. Pan amb tomatje? Probably butchering the spelling. But I could eat it all day. As a vegetarian, when we visit our friend in Barcelona, sometimes I do! (And tortilla, which I love.) @p20, if you're still here, do you subscribe to Salvage? If so, you probably have seen the editorial collective's latest "Dispatch from a Changing World." If not, you might appreciate it. The article is paywalled for a time for nonsubscribers, though.
	11:26am Mike & Dusty: Wow, what a song, Blue Boy...at first my ears thought it was a band that made a career of flitting between él Records and Sarah. (...maybe they did?)
	♥ 11:27am Marcel M: @Handy: My wife is from Barcelona so we basically live on it. And also get it constantly when there!
	♥ 11:28am Marcel M: @Handy: "pan y tomate," is the Spanish, but its really a Catalan thing. Their spelling is, "pa amb tomàquet"
	♥ 11:29am Marcel M: I just had it for breakfast!
	♥ 11:32am Handy Haversack: @Marcel. So. Jealous. Maybe I'll rough out some Haversackian equivalent later on, though.
	♥ 11:32am steveo: is it too early to say what a magically wonderful show this has been? (If so, please delete this comment;)
	♥ 11:33am karlward: You've been listening to This is the Dope World with Trouble.
	♥ 11:33am Marcel M: @Handy: Yeah I mean I just did it on sliced whole grain bread, hah. But it still tastes great on virtually any bread.
	♥ 11:34am karlward: People still say "dope" right?
	♥ 11:35am Mr. Pumpy: Handy, I'm cooking Brussels sprouts tonight. I'm trying to help quelch any feelings of envy...
	11:35am JakeGould: @karlward: Dope as a verb is kinda like a non-ironic “groovy.”
	11:35am Dean: A local restaurant serves matrimonio, a Spanish toasted bread topped with anchovies. Out of this world.
	11:36am Mike & Dusty: I missed most of last week’s show, and the first half of today’s (me and Dusty found a quiet field by the East River to throw a ball around and we just...kept doing that), so I settled in from the latter parts of the Sun Ra set, and...wow it’s such a good feeling to listen to a handful of songs in a sequence and just feel like you are in the company of Someone Good.
	♥ 11:37am Trouble: merci for the kind words! happy to make some calm inside the belly of the beast
	11:37am Mike & Dusty: dope as a verb? I use it adjectivally often enough. Don’t dope me, bro.
	♥ 11:37am Marcel M: @Dean: oh yeah... damn good!!! The last time we were in Spain we visited the Basque Country and went to a small costal town famous for their anchovies... my mouth is watering just thinking about it... Its hard to find proper Spanish food in the US.
	♥ 11:37am Blues Mandinga: Ea!
	11:38am Itzall Hear: JakeGould, wouldn't that more accurately be used as an adjective? "Trouble's DOPE show", for instance.
	♥ 11:38am Handy Haversack: Mr. P, I adore Brussels sprouts! @Marcel: Do you ever have pickled asparagus with mayonnaise? Unreal. A salad!
	11:38am JakeGould: I meant adjective; you know what I mean all you groovy dopes.
	♥ 11:38am karlward: Dope as a verb is all Ivan Drago.
	♥ 11:39am Marcel M: @Handy: I have not! It sounds.... strange. But I would def. try it.
	♥ 11:39am Mr. Pumpy: Damn...my plan backfired.
	♥ 11:39am karlward: Dope as a verb is all Lance Armstrong.
	11:39am Itzall Hear: What. We havehere... is FAY-Yure. To c'myune-kate!
	11:40am JakeGould: Nobody pickles asparagus in mayo.
	11:42am JakeGould: ZZ Top is a decent band.
	11:43am JakeGould: ZZ Top is groovy dope.
	♥ 11:43am Mr. Pumpy: @Handy, I'm roasting them in Pine-Sol and drizzling with an ipecac reduction. They will be finished with a sprinkle of sawdust from old Wolmanized wood. Don't be jealous.
	11:44am Dean: @Marcel M: I've only had the dish at the local restaurant. Would love to enjoy it in Basque country.
	♥ 11:45am Handy Haversack: As if I wasn't making myself hungry enough, now Trouble has me thinking of the Tres Amigos gatefold and the FEAST within! Mayo was invented in Menorca, a Catalan island in the Balearics. The French occupied it for a while and claimed it, but it's Mahon sauce. That island is paradise! Mayo, cheese, horses, tomato-garlic soup, and the densest concentration of Bronze Age ruins in the Mediterranean. Oh, and 300 beaches. Mr. P, I'm making Bagel Bites in a deconstructed Hot Pocket reduction with a Doritos glaze. I just want to eat my food, you know?
	♥ 11:46am Doug in JC: This is one of those albums that I am just always in the mood for no matter what I'm doing. Thank you!
	♥ 11:47am Doug in JC: And ketchup is from Vietnam!
	♥ 11:49am Mr. Pumpy: Handy...preaching to the choir, baby!
	11:50am Dean: For dessert, bananas Picasso.
	11:51am JakeGould: Goya… Oh Boy-a!
	♥ 11:54am melinda: Dreamy sounds
	♥ 11:54am joe mulligan: I had a crush on Suzanne Ciani when she appeared on "3-2-1-Contact" tv show during the 80s
	♥ 11:54am Handy Haversack: Another wonderful show, Trouble. Thanks so much -- and Skeleton Matt, too! Very glad to have been in this world for three hours!
	♥ 11:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks for the ascendant dopage today, Trouble.
	♥ 11:55am melinda: @joe I loved 3-2-1 Contact.
	11:55am Glorious Estephonic: so happy i saw Suzanne Ciani perform in a church
	♥ 11:55am Pale Son: @joe Yes! She doped my mind! :)
	11:55am JakeGould: @KenFromHydePark: You still interested in the Coney Island Beach sand?
	♥ 11:56am listener james from westwood: She did the music for that show?! Wow! All the more reason why I dug it then. Plus I see how it seeded me for later Ciani appreciation.
	♥ 11:56am mariano: I feel like I'm in a Greenaway flick ;)
	11:57am JakeGould: @ListenerJames: She appeared on the show demonstrating synths; she did nothing with the shows music directly.
	♥ 11:58am listener 126464: Thank you Trouble!
	♥ 11:59am Pale Son: Thanks, Trouble et al.!
	11:59am JakeGould: Here she is demonstrating synths on Letterman back in the 1980s. www.youtube.com...
	♥ 11:59am karlward: It has truly been a dope world
	♥ 12:00pm Adrian in London: Thanks!
	♥ 12:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: @Jake - No thanks, I'm good. Too dope for me.
	♥ 12:00pm mariano: Thanks Trouble!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from May 21, 2020

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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Thu. Feb 27th, 9am - Noon: Jennifer Higgie (More info...)
This is the Modern World with Trouble welcomes Jennifer Higgie, author of The Other Side, a Story of Women in Art and the Spiritual World. Jennifer Higgie is an Australian writer living in London. She wrote fabulously for Frieze Magazine for over 2 decades, is a curator and hosted the podcast Bow Down. In honor of The Other Side coming out in paperback in the US, Jennifer and trouble will discuss women artists, seances and spiritualism.

May 21, 2020: 'If you're not a reality whose myth are you?' -Sun Ra

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Sun Ra in 'Space is the Place'

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Meg Baird	friends "friends" by "Meg Baird"	seasons on earth					0:00:00 (Pop-up)
donovan quinn	october lanterns "october lanterns" by "donovan quinn"	october lanterns					0:09:19 (Pop-up)
Brigid Mae Power	the two worlds live on wfmu	a vivo: this is the modern world fundraising premium 2020					0:09:52 (Pop-up)
jocy de oliveira	a morte do violao	a musica do seculo xx					0:12:54 (Pop-up)
ben watt	lucky one "lucky one" by "ben watt"	north marine drive					0:14:43 (Pop-up)
hamza el din	song with tar "song with tar" by "hamza el din"	escalay: the water wheel					0:19:10 (Pop-up)
Annette Peacock	joy "joy" by "Annette Peacock"	I Belong to a World That's Destroying Itself					0:21:24 (Pop-up)

gary higgins	i pick notes from the sky	red hash					0:33:40 (Pop-up)
bob dylan & the band	bessie smith	the basement tapes					0:37:52 (Pop-up)
una mae carlisle	i met you then, I know you now	jazz tribune 64: the complete una mae carlisle and john kirby					0:42:05 (Pop-up)
loving	only she knows "only she knows" by "loving"	visions				*	0:44:56 (Pop-up)
robbie basho	pasha "pasha" by "robbie basho"	bashovia					0:47:57 (Pop-up)
the byrds	get to you "get to you" by "the byrds"	the notorious byrd brothers					0:56:59 (Pop-up)

june tyson/sun ra arkestra	astro black	Saturnian Queen of the Sun Ra Arkestra			happy birthday sun ra, born may 22, 1914		1:05:07 (Pop-up)
Sun Ra Arkestra	tiny pyramids "tiny pyramids" by "Sun Ra Arkestra"	Angels and Demons at Play/The Nubians of Plutonia					1:06:31 (Pop-up)
Sun Ra	adventure-equation "adventure-equation" by "Sun Ra"	Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy/Art Forms of Dimensions Tomorrow					1:10:15 (Pop-up)
sun ra	planet earth "planet earth" by "sun ra"	Sun Ra Visits Planet Earth/Interstellar Low Ways					1:18:18 (Pop-up)
sun ra	we travel the spaceways-interplanetary music	We Travel The Spaceways/Bad & Beautiful					1:23:04 (Pop-up)
sun ra	walking on the moon "walking on the moon" by "sun ra"	My Brother the Wind, Vol. II					1:25:47 (Pop-up)
sun ra	enlightenment "enlightenment" by "sun ra"	jazz in silhouette					1:32:02 (Pop-up)
sun ra	that's how i feel "that's how i feel" by "sun ra"	lanquidity					1:36:57 (Pop-up)
june tyson/sun ra arkestra	strange worlds in my mind	Saturnian Queen of the Sun Ra Arkestra					1:44:54 (Pop-up)
sun ra	space is the place "space is the place" by "sun ra"	ost space is the place					1:46:21 (Pop-up)
sun ra	languidity "languidity" by "sun ra"	languidity					1:50:33 (Pop-up)

sound technologies	grounding "grounding" by "sound technologies"		wollesonic	Single		*	2:05:11 (Pop-up)
pablo's eye	double language "double language" by "pablo's eye"	spring break					2:10:25 (Pop-up)
Inoyama Land	skyfish "skyfish" by "Inoyama Land"	Commissions: 1977 - 2000					2:14:37 (Pop-up)
Hong Kong in the 60s	the ungrateful root	collision/detection version 4					2:18:12 (Pop-up)
blue boy	marble arch "marble arch" by "blue boy"	unisex					2:23:00 (Pop-up)
don byas	wrap your troubles in dreams	tenor giant					2:27:21 (Pop-up)
jason joshua	la via es fria "la via es fria" by "jason joshua"	penrose records vol 1 v/a
Céu	amor pixelado "amor pixelado" by "Céu"	tropix					2:37:14 (Pop-up)

mouse on mars	papa, antoine "papa, antoine" by "mouse on mars"	iaora tahiti					2:43:00 (Pop-up)
Suzanne Ciani	eight wave "eight wave" by "Suzanne Ciani"	lixivation					2:49:35 (Pop-up)
michael nyman	a watery death "a watery death" by "michael nyman"	The Draughtsman's Contract ost					2:52:50 (Pop-up)
paolo pandolfo, rinaldo allessandrini	bmv 1027-ill. andante	bach viola de gamba sonatas					2:56:39 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:01am Soundeq: we love you Clay
	9:01am p20: we're in trouble now!
	♥ 9:01am Trouble: good morning thursday morning land.....
	♥ 9:02am David (in London): I'm from the past. May I gain admittance to the Modern World? Hello Trouble, and the Troublesome.
	9:02am Deborah: Good Morning continues....
	9:02am p20: D(iL): I always thought London was 5 or 6 hours in the future
	♥ 9:03am Handy Haversack: Good Thursday, Trouble and all the Troubled. Sounding great already. David, p20, Deborah -- glad to be in a World with you, even a Modern one.
	9:03am rasszzyy (Sweden): Tttrrrrooouuubbbbllleeeeee! It must be Thursday! Good afternoon everyone! (or I guess, good morning for most)
	♥ 9:03am steveo: Good morning. Lovely opening. I got my ears on.
	9:04am p20: I could listen to Meg Baird all day ... (eyes "B" section of record shelf)
	9:04am kpx: the thing about trouble is that it's always looming around the corner.
	♥ 9:06am MikeG: I ♥ Meg
	9:06am kpx: bonjour mademoiselle trouble.
	9:07am p20: oh there's a preview track from her upcoming (delayed) album. got to check that out (on her bandcamp)
	♥ 9:07am Threemoons: Goood morning Trouble, fellow Troublemakers. Didn't log on in time to say Hi on Clay's shift but I was there also...
	♥ 9:07am Phillippe Bastille: Good morning, Troubled and troubled troublemakers! Hey Handy, hey DiL, hey P20!
	9:07am seth from muddy creek: Hearts all over this set
	♥ 9:08am David (in London): p20 - I'm living in the past in the future. It's all very confusing. Hey Handy, Phillippe, steveo!
	9:08am Lixiviated Life: ok lets go
	9:09am ami ad: Hello D.J. Hello all.Chirp chirp from the BK,they picked up the recycling today.Hoora to the workers.Chirp.
	♥ 9:09am Pale Son: Good morning! Love the Sun Ra pic and the music so far. :)
	♥ 9:09am Trouble: friday is your last chance to get %15 off at the wfmu store: t-shirts, water bottles, notepads, sweatshirts, artwork. Check it ouuuuuuut
	♥ 9:09am melinda: Hi friends
	♥ 9:09am StringOFperils: Future, past, past, future....I'm still stuck at wondering whose myth I am.
	♥ 9:12am David (in London): Hi Melinda.
	9:13am AndrewC.: No birdsong records needed today - actual birds outside are really going for it, and the bluetit parents are in and out of the nestbox continually (hopefully) feeding the young'ns.
	♥ 9:15am Handy Haversack: I was hearing a very angry blue jay scream out front, but now I'm surrounded by extremely loud purring as two of the cats take their postprandial nap next to me. As soon as it warms up a touch, I'll head outside to work in the sparrow sounds.
	9:15am p20: @Trouble: I wanted to let you know I took your suggestion and watched the Piketty film (Capital) - watched most of it twice, actually. It was very good, reminded me a bit of "The Big Short" in its (successful) attempt to make economics accessible to general audiences. The economists and professors they interviewed were great. I'd suggest the film to anyone. I admire Piketty and I think he's doing a lot of good in the world. But at the end of the day I'm a lot further to the left than he is - he thinks capitalism can be saved by changing policies (mostly taxation), whereas I'm pretty convinced that it needs to be demolished. But I see anyone who is advocating any sort of leftist reforms, no matter how mild, as an ally. So thanks for the movie suggestion & the conversation it triggered. (Did any other listeners check it out?)
	9:19am Bill W: Made it to p 50 of the book. Lots of graphs.
	♥ 9:19am Trouble: i hear you on the demolish part @P20, but i can't ever see that happening in these united states, or many countries for that matter. Legislation to curb private greed is the best we can hope for, and even that seems far fetched right now with the all about me party in charge
	♥ 9:19am Pale Son: @p20 No, but I did read the articles that you and Trouble had suggested and found them both very worthwhile. Have been recommending to others, thank you!
	9:20am meredith: morning all! From rainy Carrboro, NC
	9:20am waters7: Good morning, Trouble and fellow listeners.
	♥ 9:20am Trouble: hellllo bill w!
	9:20am mongo: Hamza Al Din AWWWWWWESOME TROUBLE WHEEEW
	♥ 9:20am Handy Haversack: Well said, p20. I somehow missed that there was a Piketty movie?
	9:21am p20: @BillW: Yeah, I think it's great they made a movie out of it. I didn't have time/energy to read the book either. The movie is very approachable.
	9:21am thedunkel: Good Morning Trouble! Good Morning All!
	♥ 9:21am Irene Trudel: Another beautiful start to the morning with your musical selections. Thank you, Trouble!
	9:22am ami ad: Did people think the Wall will fall?Communism?This Capitalism Shall Not Stand.
	♥ 9:22am Irene Trudel: That playlist picture of Sun Ra is also quite beautiful.
	9:22am p20: @PaleSon: Glad you liked and recommended the article. The "What is the economy for?" section of that "Four Futures" article sums up my viewpoint perfectly, which saves me a lot of work trying to write it down :)
	♥ 9:23am Trouble: good morning@irene! thanks!
	9:23am kpx: ah yes, all the serene peaceful tweeting dirty little birdies. so wonderful to observe, even the ones from 'The Tennessee bird walk'. walking South in their dirty underwear. well actually thats more funny see.
	9:25am βrian: I like your playlist image, and I like that it's not an animated gif.
	♥ 9:26am melinda: @p20 I haven't yet checked out Capital, thanks for the reminder.
	♥ 9:26am austin: fresh espresso, nice sun above, and trouble's tunes! thank you as always for the selections~
	♥ 9:27am Crudbringer: The Trouble With Crud. Morning everybody. Why is it the People Who Believe In Rules that are the ones who don't like to follow the rules?
	♥ 9:28am Pale Son: @p20 Yes, and the actual Four Futures diagram reminded me so much of one of the best bits I ever got from my high school economics class, way back in the day. A diagram with democracy–dictatorship on one axis, private–public ownership on the other, dividing the space into four economic-political systems: capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism. It's such a clear and simple way to think about some pretty huge and complex ideas.
	♥ 9:29am melinda: This morning I dreamed that I had to return to work but that my boss had changed the purpose of our store and we had to serve fried chicken and felafel, with no personal protective gear. I find that even when my mood is fine during the day I still have stress dreams.
	♥ 9:30am Handy Haversack: You rule, Crudbringer! melinda, the other night I had my first dream about being outside and having forgotten a mask.
	9:30am p20: @Trouble: How have I never heard Annette Peacock before? Just looked up her amazing biography. Hung out with Timothy Leary at Millbrook, learned macrobiotics from Michio Kushi, first singer to use a Moog with her voice. Your show continues to educate, thanks. Going to back off a bit on the commenting - I keep getting too loquacious and hitting the quota - but I'm here listening attentively, and dreaming about a better world for everyone.
	9:30am Lixiviated Life: Birds?
	♥ 9:30am steveo: Number 9…?
	♥ 9:31am Crudbringer: .... "But this is the NEW normal!"
	9:31am βrian: The gnu gnormal, maybe?
	♥ 9:32am melinda: @Pale Son does anarcho-syndicalism fit into that diagram?
	9:33am kpx: the wall of greed and corruption must ultimately fall if there's ever going to be equality on all levels no matter who you are.
	9:33am Lixiviated Life: When the aliens land will they all be driving a beige Chevy Malibu ?
	9:34am p20: ("normal" is one of those words that should always be in quotes, like "reality")
	♥ 9:34am Pale Son: @melinda Not really, because some kind of government is assumed on the democracy–dictatorship axis.
	9:34am Lixiviated Life: No, The Aliens drive beige 1974 Chevy Nova's
	♥ 9:35am steveo: The birds are a blessing at our place. Also, today there are juvenile squirrels playing in the hollow part of the catalpa.
	9:35am βrian: Porque no va?
	♥ 9:35am Crudbringer: @Pale Son right, it's like that diagram is just one cross-section of the possible anarcho-verse.
	9:35am Slaboch: Arthur Russell's birthday today too!
	9:35am p20: @melinda: you could add a square hanging off the edge, to the left of 'socialism'
	♥ 9:35am Crudbringer: all locations outside that plane are just different versions of "nothing to see here".
	9:36am ?: hi trouble. can we buy your live cd?
	9:36am p20: @Crudbringer: I think you could make the same critique of any map, no? It's still a useful thing.
	♥ 9:37am StringOFperils: Placed a reserve/hold on Pikkety's Capital In the 21st Century. I have only seen snippets of (documentary?) video featuring Pikkety's ideas. I (with no intention to be argumentative here), am less positive about how it's all going, so fresh outside considerations can't hurt.
	♥ 9:37am Crudbringer: Sure, all maps have a limited domain of application, but are useful within that domain.
	9:37am Aquebogue: Can you imagine a wedding that Marshall Allen and the Arkestra played at. It was wild!
	♥ 9:38am Adrian in London: Hi Trouble, and Troublees, comic in late because I was having the lunch my wife kindly made me. A great perk of working from home!
	♥ 9:38am Crudbringer: More and more, I think of "civil society" as a bourgeois fantasia. The very-rich and very-poor understand & accept that nature is red in tooth & claw and the only thing to do is survive.
	9:38am βrian: SOPeril: So you reserved the book or the documentary?
	♥ 9:38am Trouble: @?: all the premiums that WFMU dj's make are available when you make a donation to WFMU. $75 donation gets you my last fundraising premium, plus a tshirt!
	9:39am Deborah: @HandyHaversack 9:03 Reciprocal thoughts here! Thank you.
	♥ 9:41am StringOFperils: @Brian...the book Brian. I think the depth offered within the book, will be more useful to me....extrapolating hope out of all of this (and the history of the human race) has become difficult for me. So...the book, or A book, rather.
	9:42am βrian: @SOPerils: That should keep ya busy!
	9:42am kpx: does anyone remember the K car from the 70s. it was supposed to be a cheap no thrills affordable car. I can't remember the manufacturer?
	9:43am βrian: Chrysler. I thought it was the 80s.
	♥ 9:43am Crudbringer: Ahh, the Dodge Aries K. Further evidence of a random, hateful universe.
	♥ 9:43am Crudbringer: Yeah, the "K" was a shared platform used by ChryPlymDodge, right?
	9:43am Rev. Turnip Druid: Aries K. The quintessential corporate car.
	9:43am Aquebogue: Love the Annette Peacock today! Thanks for that!!! Great ring mod.
	♥ 9:44am StringOFperils: @Brian....I NEED to be kept busy. In a bit of a rut lately, with one thing and another.
	9:44am βrian: K-car: en.wikipedia.org...
	9:45am p20: @Crudbringer: I think "nature red in tooth and claw" is a bit of a fantasy too. First of all, Nature is complex. Ants live in cooperative societies. There are all kinds of examples of cooperation and symbiosis. Secondly, we don't live in a state of nature. We live in a constructed social system. And we should have some say in the construction of said system. And I think we should try to uphold basic Enlightenment values, which have been around for hundreds of years.
	9:46am Jeezuseffinchrist: @p-20, hear hear
	9:46am Dave Conehead: Awesome tunes for the moment
	9:47am p20: And in lots of ways, the capitalist system we've devised is more brutal than anything to be found in the natural world. Look at how many people someone like Bezos (on track to become the first trillionaire) can dominate. In a nature-based society his power would be much more limited. (And he'd probably get eaten).
	9:47am Jeffrey Davison: Good morning, Trouble and all sojourners here...
	♥ 9:47am melinda: @Pale Son makes sense. The context in which I heard it first described in a positive light is different from the Wiki definition I just looked up.
	♥ 9:48am Crudbringer: @p20 agree, except that I think the "construction" of our social system increasingly resembles the physical construction of our bridges and schools. Men with spade beards and Deep Bleefs about their Hairtidge are polishing their guns. I think the "brutality" of the system is just the natural result of the lack of any "rules" at all.
	♥ 9:48am Trouble: good morning jeffrey! how goes it?
	9:49am Jeezuseffinchrist: @p20 one could only dream
	♥ 9:49am Crudbringer: Or rather "rules for thee, enforcement of the rules for me"
	♥ 9:50am melinda: Nature is about cooperation as well as competition.
	♥ 9:50am Crudbringer: Hi Jeffrey. Sorry, we're gonna figure it all out & fix it here in a second, then Trouble can start spinning some Ethel Merman platters.
	9:51am Jeezy: Oy veyshmir. Wotta world we live in...
	9:52am βrian: I traded my bleefs for a couple of spleefs.
	♥ 9:52am StringOFperils: Unqualified agreement on that Jeezy.
	♥ 9:52am Handy Haversack: @p20, I think one of the books I mentioned in our recommendation fest some weeks ago was Amatka, which I think does one of the better jobs of trying -- mimetically, at least -- to figure what lies on the other side of change we are poorly able to imagine. When the capitalist system that has defined brutal life on this planet for hundreds of years is brought down, what does life look like? It's hard hard hard to get one's imagination past that point of singularity. But extractive capitalism might and tends toward ending only when there's nothing left to extract and no one left to (force to) extract it.
	9:53am hey buddy: Knocking it out of the park again! Thanks trouble!
	♥ 9:53am Crudbringer: I dunno. That Beaver documentary notwithstanding, I think the "cooperation" observed in nature is ephemeral at best, or specious. I'm not sure what ants do is "cooperating", with a happy heart and a clear mind.
	9:53am Itzall Hear: Hello Trouble and all the people. Lots to do today and it's great to have this fine show to accompany that! That's me in the corner--
	9:53am Glorious Estephonic: Basho <3 <3 <3
	9:54am Jeezuseffinchrist: btw, I just wanted to say that the guitar in that Loving song really reminded me alot of a Nature and Organisation song I absolutely adore, Tears for an Eastern Girl: open.spotify.com...
	9:56am kpx: true, but along comes man and channels nature through a greedy non-cooperation configuration and turns everything into a toxic waste.
	♥ 9:56am StringOFperils: I'm glad that we all have THIS, for the time-being. May it continue to live on, and not just as memory.
	♥ 9:57am melinda: @Handy sounds interesting @Crudbringer cooperating might not be the best word, but not everything is zero-sum. Trees provide each other with nutrients via huge underground fungal systems. Reciprocal altruism was an important discovery in evolutionary theory.
	♥ 9:58am Crudbringer: @kpx just like a beaver builds a dam. I had a big falling-out with my holy-roller manager this week. He approvingly quoted Elon Musk, and said "He's not afraid to say what he thinks, even if it's unpopular!" I said, "Maybe it's unpopular because it's stupid." Him: "Nope." Now he's acting all butt-hurt. I can't see why. I was just saying what I think, without caring whether it was a popular thing to say. I had been hoping it would increase his respect for me.
	9:58am Jeezy: Yassss, @Jeezuse... that is a great track....!
	♥ 9:59am melinda: @Crudbringer haha
	9:59am Lixiviated Life: Robbie's guitar string The sound of spring birds singing No Basho Haiku
	10:00am Jeffrey Davison: Trouble, it's going okay. This morning I fixed the internet, launched a satellite to help upload my show, bought a BMW 507 at auction, and played some polo with Prince Charles.
	♥ 10:01am Crudbringer: (oh yeah thanks @JD for that internet thing btw)
	♥ 10:01am Passaic River Blues: @Melinda: I agree with you here. Perhaps "cooperation" implies too much intention. "Balance" and "equilibration" seem to be inherent components of natural systems, something missing from most human endeavors. @Crudbringer: hahahaha
	10:03am Jeffrey Davison: Crudbringer...you're welcome. I'm a problem solver.
	♥ 10:04am melinda: @Jeffrey save us from Legionnaire's Disease!
	♥ 10:05am Crudbringer: oh god is LD still a thing?
	10:06am Jeffrey Davison: That's my afternoon project. (it's still a thing, for real).
	10:06am p20: YES. SUN RA. YES.
	10:07am Fredericks: I love June Tyson-eRa Ra.
	10:07am Malcolm: Looking forward to this set. lanquidity is the only sun ra album i've delved into in any depth. It's beautiful, also has june tyson vocals
	10:08am Aquebogue: I think Tara gives June a run for her money. Your thoughts?
	10:08am p20: Interesting fact: In the 1930's and 40’s Sun Ra was one of the first Afrikan Americans to own his own recording equipment. He set up his own record label (El Saturn Records) in Chicago in 1957. Absolute hero and insipration. sunraarchive.webstarts.com...
	10:10am Itzall Hear: Well. Just about an hour in to the show and my usual record spend is about to occur. I need that June Tyson record, for sure! Trouble, your show is expensive.
	10:10am Fredericks: I applied for a job with Outer Spaceways Incorporated.
	♥ 10:12am Trouble: Jeffrey, you do manage to keep yourself bizzeeeee while helping humankind, that's awesome!
	10:13am Kpx: Popular unpopular agreeing disagreeing who cares maybe it's the effort that one makes that counts
	10:14am WM: Thanks for reminding us all of Sun Ra's birthday. I was lucky to hear the Arkestra live several times with June Tyson, John Gilmore and Marshall Allen. Everyone should read the very good biography Space is the Place by John Szwed.
	10:14am Itzall Hear: Dear Fredericks, don't forget your 'ole chatboard pals if you get your foot in the door with O.S.I.- good luck!!! ;)
	♥ 10:15am Trouble: sorry@itzall, i could try to play unavailable music, would that help? Yes I agree@ WM
	10:15am Crei6hton: Morning!
	♥ 10:15am Crudbringer: (@p20 nice, that Sun Ra link is the hoopiest)
	10:16am Itzall Hear: Dear Trouble, NO!!! But thanks for the gentle offer.
	10:16am Jesse Dorris: Fabulous show so far, @Trouble. Happy Birthday Sun Ra!
	10:20am WM: The first time I heard Sun Ra live was in 1973 at Town Hall in NYC. Years later the concert was released on CD as Concert for the Comet Kohoutek.
	♥ 10:20am Crudbringer: (reading Sun Ra entry on Wikipedia... > In an appeal to the national draft board, [Sun Ra] wrote that the lack of black men on the draft appeal board "smacks of Hitlerism." Too rad!)
	♥ 10:21am Passaic River Blues: @WM: that's awesome!
	♥ 10:22am Handy Haversack: Well, let's take Sun Ra outside, shall we?
	10:23am Fredericks: I won't, Itzalll. I haven't heard anything yet. A letter takes a while to get to Saturn.
	♥ 10:24am Crudbringer: You folded that letter but you forgot to fold space. Has Sun Ra taught you _nothing?_
	♥ 10:25am Trouble: @passaic river blues, I finished optic nerve by maria gainza, will pop it in the mail today or tomorrow. enjoy!
	10:26am Fredericks: Oh, you're right, Cruddy.
	♥ 10:26am Crudbringer: yeah, give it to one of those spice guys in the fishtank
	10:27am Itzall Hear: Thanks, buddy, just be patient, I'm sure they will be in touch!
	♥ 10:27am Handy Haversack: That's better.
	10:28am ranjit: I think i saw the arkestra once at the Bang on a Can festival but that might just be my mind (or somebody else's) playing tricks on me
	♥ 10:30am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and Arkitects. I like how Liz Berg's bed music was a Sun Ra selection.
	♥ 10:30am Pale Son: I was supposed to be seeing the Arkestra here in Halifax next month, but it's not happening now, obv. Too bad!
	♥ 10:32am Passaic River Blues: @Trouble: thank you! Also, we got one of the elegant pandemic masks in the mail yesterday--my wife was thrilled with how beautiful and well made it was.
	♥ 10:33am Webhamster Henry: Don't forget to mention the Sun Ra Remix CD done by WFMU staffers "Interplanetary Remixes: WFMU Reinterprets The Music Of Sun Ra"
	10:34am ranjit: oh wow, Henry, i gotta get that there remix
	10:34am Fredericks: En-Light-Ment!
	10:34am Itzall Hear: Um, dear Webby Hank, where would a person go to find that CD?!?
	♥ 10:35am Trouble: @passaic river blues: fabulous! i believe i wrote sizes on them, and if they don't fit let me know and i can make another size and you can give away the off sized one...wear in good health!
	♥ 10:36am Webhamster Henry: @ranjit WFMU Used to have it in the store. Hmm! Trouble played some cuts from it last year's Sun Ra show (including mine #talksabouthimselfexcessively)
	♥ 10:36am WillCrete: Thanks for is Sun Ra Birthday set Trouble! Magnificent listening this morning.
	♥ 10:37am Handy Haversack: Michele said she'll be adding material to the store this weekend. Maybe it will come back!
	10:38am WO Town Wick: Yo La Tengo got me interested in Sun Ra. Tried to resist but was overcome.
	♥ 10:39am Mick: What an amazing Sun Ra set - thanks Trouble!
	♥ 10:39am Crudbringer: man I may have to build some pyramids this weekend.
	♥ 10:40am steveo: tuba jazz rules
	♥ 10:41am Trouble: gracias@ mick, willcrete, glad to bring the sun ra sounds into the daylight.
	♥ 10:42am steveo: hm no tuba listed; maybe i'm hearing bass clarinet? in which case, bass clarinet jazz rules
	♥ 10:43am Crudbringer: pyramids with rings. In the fourth dimension.
	10:43am Kpx: @crud, seems apropos for someone who is fond of cats.
	10:43am Malcolm: yeaaah lanquidity!
	10:43am David in London: Saw Sun Ra in Liverpool in 1990, and it was the best gig of my life. A truly magical evening. Ian McCulloch of Echo & the Bunnymen was sitting in front of me, but luckily the seating was so steep that his massive hairdo didn’t obscure the proceedings.
	♥ 10:44am Greg from ZONE 5: Morning, Trouble & all!
	♥ 10:44am Blacktooth: Tripped out on this Sun-Ra set. Some tunes I'm familiar with. Some not. Absolutely LOVING this long groovy-funky "that's how I feel." Never heard this side of RA.
	♥ 10:44am Crudbringer: I saw E&BM in St. Louis in 1991. It was the first concert I ever went to and I hated it but I bought a long lost t-shirt anyhow.
	♥ 10:46am Threemoons: Me three RE loving this Sun Ra. Need it today.
	♥ 10:47am Handy Haversack: Hey, Greg!
	10:48am Mike & Dusty: I dig it, I dig it all
	♥ 10:50am Trouble: @blacktooth: listening to that cut i thought of kamasi washington...
	10:50am I mark: I’m very confused. Why is WFMU in my cell phone? Space was the place.
	10:52am Harlem Muse: Space is the Place! I heart Saturnian Queen Space June. Thanks for taking us to another world Trouble!
	10:53am I mark: I was born on the southside of Chicago but I had never heard of sun re until I moved. I met a guy worked at tower records in Philadelphia he said he played guitar with the band
	♥ 10:53am Blacktooth: @Trouble: Indeed! Kamasi is a modern artist continuing the traditions of space-exploration through music. I'm a sucker for those places where the jazz & funk do the doe-si-doe.
	10:54am I mark: I don’t know if this is a request or a suggestion but there is a new Nicole Mitchell space thing based on the work of Octavia Butler earth seed
	♥ 10:56am Irene Trudel: I'm loving this Sun Ra journey through space and time today.
	♥ 10:57am Trouble: glad you are along for the ride @ irene
	10:59am Malcolm: great set thanks trouble
	♥ 11:00am Adrian in London: Really enjoying this set.
	♥ 11:00am Passaic River Blues: What a set--perfect closing with "Languidity."
	♥ 11:01am karlward: That was a dope hour
	11:05am duke: I keep getting phone calls. I have to go back to archives to get that set looks wonderful.
	♥ 11:06am alexapharm: omg Providence luv!!!!!
	♥ 11:06am juan: Thank you, trouble, for this wondrous set of Sun Ra. He has been much on my mind lately
	♥ 11:07am alexapharm: My first shows were at Lupo's too. <3
	♥ 11:08am Yes: lovely sounds, trouble. thank you
	♥ 11:08am Trouble: merci! Glad you all enjoyed the magic of sun ra!
	11:10am I mark: There’s a book from 2009 by John Corbett pathway to unknown worlds. John also arranged for Alton Abraham’s papers to be archived at u Chicago. Didn’t know the Sun Ra Providence connection.
	♥ 11:13am Marcel M: @Trouble: did you have pa amb tomàquet with your tortilla?
	♥ 11:14am Webhamster Henry: Thursday Morning is the home of Sun Ra, Alice Coltrane and Nina Simone. These are musicians that are most like French bird calls.
	11:16am Fredericks: Irwin has a connection to Sun Ra, too.
	♥ 11:18am Trouble: @i mark: saw that fantastic show at the ICA in philly, i have the book, it was the catalog. No marcel, sadly we didn't. i wouldn't eat a tomato like that until i saw it grow out of the ground.
	♥ 11:20am Trouble: @frederiks, irwin's connection to sun ra is only in working on reissuing a few releases, within the past years.
	♥ 11:21am Marcel M: @Trouble: You just gotta use the small juicy ones. You only rub them on the bread. Thats what the Catalonians do. Goes amazingly well with tortilla. Add some manchego and jamon iberico and ohhhh baby!
	11:24am Dean: I thought Irwin was the executor of the Sun Ra estate.
	♥ 11:25am Marcel M: @Dean: I think he does own the licensing on behalf of the estate or something like that.
	♥ 11:26am Handy Haversack: @Marcel: Oh hotsie motsie, yeah. Pan amb tomatje? Probably butchering the spelling. But I could eat it all day. As a vegetarian, when we visit our friend in Barcelona, sometimes I do! (And tortilla, which I love.) @p20, if you're still here, do you subscribe to Salvage? If so, you probably have seen the editorial collective's latest "Dispatch from a Changing World." If not, you might appreciate it. The article is paywalled for a time for nonsubscribers, though.
	11:26am Mike & Dusty: Wow, what a song, Blue Boy...at first my ears thought it was a band that made a career of flitting between él Records and Sarah. (...maybe they did?)
	♥ 11:27am Marcel M: @Handy: My wife is from Barcelona so we basically live on it. And also get it constantly when there!
	♥ 11:28am Marcel M: @Handy: "pan y tomate," is the Spanish, but its really a Catalan thing. Their spelling is, "pa amb tomàquet"
	♥ 11:29am Marcel M: I just had it for breakfast!
	♥ 11:32am Handy Haversack: @Marcel. So. Jealous. Maybe I'll rough out some Haversackian equivalent later on, though.
	♥ 11:32am steveo: is it too early to say what a magically wonderful show this has been? (If so, please delete this comment;)
	♥ 11:33am karlward: You've been listening to This is the Dope World with Trouble.
	♥ 11:33am Marcel M: @Handy: Yeah I mean I just did it on sliced whole grain bread, hah. But it still tastes great on virtually any bread.
	♥ 11:34am karlward: People still say "dope" right?
	♥ 11:35am Mr. Pumpy: Handy, I'm cooking Brussels sprouts tonight. I'm trying to help quelch any feelings of envy...
	11:35am JakeGould: @karlward: Dope as a verb is kinda like a non-ironic “groovy.”
	11:35am Dean: A local restaurant serves matrimonio, a Spanish toasted bread topped with anchovies. Out of this world.
	11:36am Mike & Dusty: I missed most of last week’s show, and the first half of today’s (me and Dusty found a quiet field by the East River to throw a ball around and we just...kept doing that), so I settled in from the latter parts of the Sun Ra set, and...wow it’s such a good feeling to listen to a handful of songs in a sequence and just feel like you are in the company of Someone Good.
	♥ 11:37am Trouble: merci for the kind words! happy to make some calm inside the belly of the beast
	11:37am Mike & Dusty: dope as a verb? I use it adjectivally often enough. Don’t dope me, bro.
	♥ 11:37am Marcel M: @Dean: oh yeah... damn good!!! The last time we were in Spain we visited the Basque Country and went to a small costal town famous for their anchovies... my mouth is watering just thinking about it... Its hard to find proper Spanish food in the US.
	♥ 11:37am Blues Mandinga: Ea!
	11:38am Itzall Hear: JakeGould, wouldn't that more accurately be used as an adjective? "Trouble's DOPE show", for instance.
	♥ 11:38am Handy Haversack: Mr. P, I adore Brussels sprouts! @Marcel: Do you ever have pickled asparagus with mayonnaise? Unreal. A salad!
	11:38am JakeGould: I meant adjective; you know what I mean all you groovy dopes.
	♥ 11:38am karlward: Dope as a verb is all Ivan Drago.
	♥ 11:39am Marcel M: @Handy: I have not! It sounds.... strange. But I would def. try it.
	♥ 11:39am Mr. Pumpy: Damn...my plan backfired.
	♥ 11:39am karlward: Dope as a verb is all Lance Armstrong.
	11:39am Itzall Hear: What. We havehere... is FAY-Yure. To c'myune-kate!
	11:40am JakeGould: Nobody pickles asparagus in mayo.
	11:42am JakeGould: ZZ Top is a decent band.
	11:43am JakeGould: ZZ Top is groovy dope.
	♥ 11:43am Mr. Pumpy: @Handy, I'm roasting them in Pine-Sol and drizzling with an ipecac reduction. They will be finished with a sprinkle of sawdust from old Wolmanized wood. Don't be jealous.
	11:44am Dean: @Marcel M: I've only had the dish at the local restaurant. Would love to enjoy it in Basque country.
	♥ 11:45am Handy Haversack: As if I wasn't making myself hungry enough, now Trouble has me thinking of the Tres Amigos gatefold and the FEAST within! Mayo was invented in Menorca, a Catalan island in the Balearics. The French occupied it for a while and claimed it, but it's Mahon sauce. That island is paradise! Mayo, cheese, horses, tomato-garlic soup, and the densest concentration of Bronze Age ruins in the Mediterranean. Oh, and 300 beaches. Mr. P, I'm making Bagel Bites in a deconstructed Hot Pocket reduction with a Doritos glaze. I just want to eat my food, you know?
	♥ 11:46am Doug in JC: This is one of those albums that I am just always in the mood for no matter what I'm doing. Thank you!
	♥ 11:47am Doug in JC: And ketchup is from Vietnam!
	♥ 11:49am Mr. Pumpy: Handy...preaching to the choir, baby!
	11:50am Dean: For dessert, bananas Picasso.
	11:51am JakeGould: Goya… Oh Boy-a!
	♥ 11:54am melinda: Dreamy sounds
	♥ 11:54am joe mulligan: I had a crush on Suzanne Ciani when she appeared on "3-2-1-Contact" tv show during the 80s
	♥ 11:54am Handy Haversack: Another wonderful show, Trouble. Thanks so much -- and Skeleton Matt, too! Very glad to have been in this world for three hours!
	♥ 11:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks for the ascendant dopage today, Trouble.
	♥ 11:55am melinda: @joe I loved 3-2-1 Contact.
	11:55am Glorious Estephonic: so happy i saw Suzanne Ciani perform in a church
	♥ 11:55am Pale Son: @joe Yes! She doped my mind! :)
	11:55am JakeGould: @KenFromHydePark: You still interested in the Coney Island Beach sand?
	♥ 11:56am listener james from westwood: She did the music for that show?! Wow! All the more reason why I dug it then. Plus I see how it seeded me for later Ciani appreciation.
	♥ 11:56am mariano: I feel like I'm in a Greenaway flick ;)
	11:57am JakeGould: @ListenerJames: She appeared on the show demonstrating synths; she did nothing with the shows music directly.
	♥ 11:58am listener 126464: Thank you Trouble!
	♥ 11:59am Pale Son: Thanks, Trouble et al.!
	11:59am JakeGould: Here she is demonstrating synths on Letterman back in the 1980s. www.youtube.com...
	♥ 11:59am karlward: It has truly been a dope world
	♥ 12:00pm Adrian in London: Thanks!
	♥ 12:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: @Jake - No thanks, I'm good. Too dope for me.
	♥ 12:00pm mariano: Thanks Trouble!

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