WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from May 4, 2020

Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Techtollywoodlanders!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Well, OK! Techgin (well, Techwine for now) is poured. Ready for some Techtonic! Mark! Techyon drives!
	6:02pm David in London: Greetings Technoids. Hello Mark, hey Handy and Ultradamno.
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Now in Techto-vision!
	6:03pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Handy, David, KfHP!
	6:03pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy technopeople
	6:03pm geezerette: Howdy, Mark and tech-friends and phobes.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends and Skeletons!
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: Ah, Day of the Triffids is a pretty good one! I like Wyndham a lot. I discovered today that where I say "quarantini," my friend in Edinburgh says "locktails"! Great minds. David! Ultradamno! Ken! Glad to be here at the end of all things with such fine folx!
	🤖 6:03pm Bas NL: Mark! Olivia! Tectonicopias!
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	🤖 6:04pm Handy Haversack: Library edition of the ... DAW edition?
	6:04pm annie: grim....... a relative term
	6:04pm David in London: Hi Phillippe.
	6:05pm ultradamno: Hey, if I were looking for a ray of sunshine, I wouldn't be here.
	6:05pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey DiL! Handy! KFHP! Bas!
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: Phillippe, geezerette, Webham, Bas, Annie, hello!
	6:05pm queems: hi mark hurst & all
	6:06pm Mark Hurst: Hey queems, thanks for joining
	6:06pm geezerette: Keep speaking truth ,Mark
	6:06pm David in London: Yeah, we’re here for the truth Mark, not the big yuks, so you keep on keeping on.
	🤖 6:06pm chresti: Hi Mark and Techtonistas!
	6:06pm Phillippe Bastille: I'll update on live sports!: {crickets}
	6:07pm melinda: That's my era of pop culture awareness too.
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Techtonic Movie Night!
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: @geezerette, @david, thanks
	6:07pm Phillippe Bastille: hey chresti, melinda
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: Phillippe! queems! chresti! Good to see you! "On tonight's interview: 'Cellular Phone? Try Cellular Marketing! Amazon Owns Your Cells Now'!" Yeah. But we are here the real talk!
	6:07pm queems: i texted my boss to tell him that zoom was an unsavory video conference tool and he never texted me back lol
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: We need to get past these current virus and Big Tech issues and get the the real problem in tech: portrait mode videos!
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: ^for
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: @chresti, @melinda thanks for joining in!
	6:08pm Mark Hurst: @KenfHP I am with you on that one!
	6:08pm Phillippe Bastille: welcome to my life. Takes me a couple weeks to finish a book
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: @queems thanks for trying, anyway
	🤖 6:09pm chresti: I still have trouble focusing.
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: Pop culture? I've got STAR mag now. Did you know Jennifer Garner and her 14yo daughter look alike? (Mag courtesy of spa next door)
	🤖 6:09pm Bas NL: Same here Mark..
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: hi @herb
	6:09pm brainiac: I've been trying to finish Gravity's Rainbow for 3 years now.
	6:09pm queems: @mark they can't say i didn't warn them
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: @queems that would make a nice tag line for Techtonic
	6:10pm David in London: Hey brainiac.
	6:10pm ignatatus666: We had no choice as kids to watch the movie several times My parents loved it.
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: Oh, my mom adored Day of the Triffids! She always referred to gigunda plants in the garden or out and about as Triffids. Also reassured to hear I'm not the only one who's been shite at finishing books since the virus hit.
	6:10pm queems: @mark next year's marathon t shirt
	6:11pm annie: aahh..you're so young...somuch good stuff written before you were awake
	6:11pm Franco Twinkie: Well, Mark, I never read the book, but I saw the movie! Ha.
	🤖 6:11pm Webhamster Henry: @mark, @queems or "I Told You So."
	6:11pm brainiac: David! waves
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: @James you are not alone
	6:11pm geezerette: Same, my brain froze.
	6:11pm ultradamno: JG Ballard's disaster novels are good for this time, Crystal World, Drowned World and Concrete Island
	🤖 6:11pm herb.nyc: Friends recommend a Jack London short story about surviving, post-disaster. I downloaded it from a free website. Forgot the title.
	6:11pm Phillippe Bastille: @herb.nyc wait, Jennifer Garner has a 14 yr old?
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @Franco @ignatatus shows what I know about movies - I didn't know there was a film version
	6:12pm Bootsie: Oh, I SO love this movie!
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @ultra good pointers, thanks
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Crest edition. Nice cover. Took me forever to finish this book on the Danish expedition to Yemen in the 1760s, but I have made faster progress on the next book. Never seen the Triffids movie but read the book a couple of times.
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @annie happy to hear any reading recommendations you have!
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: Hi @Bootsie
	🤖 6:13pm herb.nyc: "The ease of travel"- I've done 4 subway rides since march 23. All quick and easy, whew.
	6:13pm annie: i'll start a list mark
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: @annie thx
	🤖 6:15pm herb.nyc: Ooh, GClooney and wife Amal having quarantine issues. He says she's kinda bossy.
	🤖 6:16pm Handy Haversack: Listener p20 collected a list of reading recs from alot of WFMU listeners, starting in a Modern World ep. Linked from his profile: docs.google.com...
	6:16pm Ike: As for sci-fi, I've just started listening to the audiobook "We Are Legion (We Are Bob)" and it's quite entertaining so far.
	6:16pm David in London: Mark, there’s a dark twin to The Day of the Triffids called The Death of Grass by an author called John Christopher. He was contemporary with Wyndham in the 50s, and it’s a truly chilling novel.
	6:16pm joe mulligan: I've been trying to think why the 7:00pm clap/hooting/pan banging reminds me of the movie 1984. Then I realized, it's very much like "Two Minutes Hate." Sure it's people "supporting essential workers" but is it really helping them? Why not support better pay for essential workers? It seems more like people letting out their frustrations against the invisible enemy in this war with covid
	6:17pm queems: there used to be a video series on youtube that i liked in college called "28 slater" about mario lopez turning into ac slater every 28 days
	6:17pm Mark Hurst: @David hadn't heard of Death of Grass - thanks
	6:17pm ultradamno: Panic In Year Zero is a movie that keeps coming up in my mind these days also.
	6:17pm Franco Twinkie: Mark, It was one of those bizzaro British sci-fi movies that they showed on Saturday afternoon TV. The solution for the problem was music or salt water, I can't remember which.
	6:18pm Russ Never Sleeps: So, I shared Mark's ACLU interview re: contact tracing with 8 colleagues/friends, and nobody cared. In fact, I was mildly scoffed at. Why is everyone so apathetic about their privacy/civil liberties being compromised, etc? It's difficult to not be angry with them over it.
	6:19pm melinda: @Russ that's sad.
	6:19pm Bootsie: I might be in camp 2... Contagion is on my list but I also kind of want to get away from it right now.
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: @Russ I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for trying. (see also @queems's comment above)
	🤖 6:19pm chresti: Yeah- Panic in the Year Zero.
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: In the movie, what movie does Patrick Dempsey see?
	6:20pm melinda: Patrick Dempsey is from Maine.
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: @Russ, that happens to me and Kate all the time -- and I am sure to Mark, too! But not letting acquiescence get normalized is still worthwhile, I think.
	6:20pm Bootsie: @Franco I know which but not spoiling it. ;-)
	6:21pm annie: listen to the audiobook, The Andromeda Stran"
	6:21pm melinda: Yes to Shaun of the Dead! We need non-downers.
	6:21pm listener james from westwood: "You might remember him from" in a movie context has big Troy McClure energy.
	6:21pm P-90: Mark: “McDreamy? Vas is das McDreamy?”
	6:21pm Franco Twinkie: Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price, and Panic In The Year Zero with Ray Milland. My picks for thrills and chills indoors.
	6:21pm annie: [strain]
	6:21pm ultradamno: Also, Twilight Zone "Stopover in a Quiet Town", probably the best of it's 'someone wakes up in a deserted place' episodes.
	6:21pm ignatatus666: I’m with Mark Never say He was .... as you already know Nope I’m clueless who these people are when friends suggest a program or movie.
	6:21pm brainiac: The Cornetto trilogy is always a good bet
	6:21pm Mark Hurst: @Handy @Russ yes I'm familiar with the feeling. But you're not alone - we're not alone - in trying to spread the word.
	6:22pm David in London: Russ, don’t be discouraged. One has to batter at the door before it gives any. I’ve been amazed by how few people seem at all worried about the dark shadow currently looming above civil liberties.
	6:22pm Bootsie: Oh, no. I Am Legend was my LEAST fave film adaptation of that story.
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: @David well put
	🤖 6:22pm chresti: Nice to see you too, Handy!
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: You want a peek into the way the armed "repoen the stores!" bozos think, go for Judge's later "Idiocracy."
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: @ultra @annie @Franco good picks, thx. Also, stay tuned for my comment post-interview...
	6:23pm Ike: I miss going into the office. A lot.
	🤖 6:23pm chresti: Hi Phillippe. Nice to see you, too.
	6:23pm melinda: Office Space is so good.
	6:23pm geezerette: It's hilarious!
	🤖 6:24pm Ken From Hyde Park: Haha ... Yes to Office Space!
	6:24pm ultradamno: Liquid Sky is a pretty good one, maybe more applicable to STDs, but still an argument for social distancing.
	6:24pm annie: imiss coffee shops
	6:24pm melinda: @annie me too
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: @annie I miss walking through bookstores.
	6:24pm Bootsie: I can't believe I thought Idiocracy was hilarious but ridiculous. Hah.
	6:25pm queems: during this pandemic i've watched a suite of movies that depicts the south/midwest in some type of way- to wong foo, true stories, and son in law
	6:25pm melinda: I've been having stress dreams.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: @Bootsie would have helped if Mike Judge had told us that Idiocracy was a documentary
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: I miss nothing, but then again, I'm a disembodied brain in a vat.
	6:25pm queems: i've never had an attention span for movies/tv
	6:25pm paidforby: You should watch Paprika too! Inception took a lot of its classic scenes from it.
	6:25pm The Butterman: I couldn’t disagree MORE about Roger Rabbit. It holds up. More than ever.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: @queems good picks
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @paidforby thanks, hadn't heard of Paprika
	6:26pm annie: it's funny how much easier it is to read a book in a coffeee shop than at at home
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Heh, my friend in AI did NOT like that table ... 6.1? Fun talk with him about it, though.
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @Butterman interesting - I haven't seen it since it came out
	6:27pm melinda: @annie really? I find them more distracting.
	6:27pm ultradamno: Lars Von Trier had a particularly crazy one with Udo Kier called Epidemic. His TV mini-series The Kingdom would be a great one for this.
	6:27pm Mark Hurst: @Handy did your friend listen to the interview? interested in their impressions (since I disagreed with the AI line in the table, too)
	6:27pm Bootsie: @Mark a quite prescient one!
	6:27pm annie: yes, mark, book shops!! yeah,melinda..weird
	🤖 6:28pm Webhamster Henry: Lars v Trier's Melancholia is also a good end-o-the-worlder
	6:28pm David in London: There always The Road to really lighten the mood.
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @ultra good one - new to me
	🤖 6:28pm chresti: Haha Webham.
	6:29pm annie: ex machina.....meh...bored
	🤖 6:29pm Handy Haversack: I don't think he did (he knows dkg also, BTW), but I ran through the logic behind the AI line, and he did not care for the "well, when we don't know how to calculate the odds, we poll the experts and the public." Which, I can see the problems there.
	🤖 6:29pm chresti: The brain that wouldn't die.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Melancholia is a wonderful movie, a great one to speak to depression and alienation of this time. Ex Machina is great, Inception and I Am Legend were...undeniably movies.
	🤖 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: Any thumbs up for Silent Running? I remember the cure robots.
	6:29pm diciassette: Webhamster Henry, that was bound to come up, wasn't it (loved it)
	6:29pm GListener MW: Just watched Ex Machina recently. What a forward-thinking modern masterpiece
	6:30pm annie: @KfhP: LOVED silent running
	6:30pm Bootsie: I love slow, thoughtful sci-fi.
	🤖 6:30pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, I liked Ex Machina a lot. More than Devs, I think. Though Devs had its moments, that's for sure.
	6:30pm GListener MW: @david — I saw The Road in cinema with my dad on a rainy Christmas Day, which was perfectly apropos for the vibe of the film itself. XD
	🤖 6:30pm Webhamster Henry: @Annie ever see MOON?
	6:31pm David in London: I’m going to big up a nearly forgotten AI sci-fi film called The Forbin Project, which predicted an AI take over (along the lines of Nick Bostrum’s paperclip scenario) in about 1970.
	6:31pm brainiac: @Webhamster: Fully agree regarding Melancholia. It's a good one.
	6:31pm ultradamno: A more recent one that became an instant favorite for me was It Follows, certainly diseaselike in effect and dealing with maintaining community in an alienating situation.
	6:31pm annie: yes, i had to see it a couple times, finally dug it
	6:32pm GListener MW: I love “Moon”. I’ll look up “The Forbin Project”!
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: "What Is Reality" <<< Always a good trope.
	🤖 6:32pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, Moon! Real good! Claire Denis's High Life was excellent, I thought, if you like slow, thoughtful SF. @DIL: I am with you on the Forbin Project!
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: @annie @KfHP silent running, was that like Cool Running?
	6:32pm annie: The Forbin Project!!! what a great flick!
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: @Ultrad: We really loved It Follows, definitely.
	6:33pm Bootsie: @David in London this looks good! www.imdb.com...
	6:33pm geezerette: "Sick" by Todd Haynes is good.
	6:33pm GListener MW: @ultra — I watched “It Follows” for the first time recently too! One of the more original horror/thrillers I’ve seen in years, and will stick with me for quite awhile
	🤖 6:33pm Folsom: I remember watching soap operas when I was a kid, then seeing forbin project, recognized eric braeden
	6:34pm annie: silent running was a human rejecting tech ...bruce dern... see it!
	6:34pm P-90: Daniel Craig’s Bond was very close to Fleming’s original character, which bothered a few people.
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Aii, never heard of Forbin Project, It Follows, Melancholia, Silent Running. I really haven't seen enough movies, I guess
	6:34pm egould310: Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton. Dalton brought a “meanness” to his fighting. Pretty brutal, and violent in fights. I like his Bond.
	6:34pm David in London: Glistener MW, wow, Christmas Day Road, that’s hardcore. Hats off to you!
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: There was a TV movie in 1971 "The Paper Man", an evil computer takes over a building. www.imdb.com...
	6:35pm annie: ian fleming was funded by the cia
	6:35pm ultradamno: 'Chekhov's gun' is what he's describing (a gun on the mantle in the first act will be fired by the end)
	6:35pm Dave from Chicago: Best part of X Machina....when he begins to conspire w robot girl....treats her as a thinking person
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @ultra yes
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: @Dave agreed, that was the crux of the movie, I thought
	6:36pm JakeGould: I used to think “Silent Running” was a good movie until I watched it again and realized it’s just Bruce Dern murdering his cremates to save trees. The end message is quite muddled.
	🤖 6:37pm Webhamster Henry: "Her" is pretty techtonical. The tech is plausable, but I wish they had run the script by me first.
	6:37pm annie: ....he was obcessed,Jake...already mad..
	6:38pm Toothgrinder Tom: This is a pretty good show.
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: @Webham the premise of Her was interesting - but the movie's commentary on it, I disagreed strongly.
	6:38pm ignatatus666: James Bond was replaced by Jason Bourne.
	6:38pm GListener MW: “It’s a little less tech.... is that okay? It’s called The Mirror Has Two Faces.”
	6:38pm annie: Mark, you have allt hose things written down?
	6:39pm Toothgrinder Tom: @annie I thought Ian Fleming hated America?
	🤖 6:39pm Folsom: how about The Manitou where at the end the souls of the computer help attack the bad guy
	6:39pm melinda: Fellini escapism.
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: @annie from the comment board you mean? or Paul's picks from the interview?
	6:39pm annie: ...... he was bought up
	6:39pm geezerette: Papparazo!
	6:39pm Toothgrinder Tom: Do people not know 8 1/2 anymore? When did that happen?
	6:39pm ultradamno: Her is the companion piece to Lucy, in which Scarlett becomes tech (in a far more ridiculous, but also more entertaining, way)
	6:39pm JakeGould: Also, will say I think “Frankenstein” and “Bride of Frankenstein” are two great films whose message is… “If you just build things to build things you will screw up in the end…” Frankenstein was given life and — at his heart — decent creature but was never guided and instantly feared. Also the bride of Frankenstein was given life to be Frankie’s girlfriend… She comes to life, looks at him and just screams. Built with good intentions but when she’s given life, she does not behave as expected.
	6:40pm David in London: egould310 - Me too, I love Dalton’s bond. He brought a real grittiness to it, and a hint of sadness too. Some of the action scenes in License to Kill are still amazing.
	6:40pm annie: from the comment boad
	6:40pm ultradamno: ...and she sort of ascends in the end of both movies.
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: @annie they'll be saved here on the playlist page
	6:40pm brainiac: I got a kick out of AI Alan Watts stealing Joaquin Phoenix's AI girlfriend in Her.
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: @mark HER is absolutely where user interfaces are going -> conversational interfaces.
	6:40pm GListener MW: Great points, Jake!
	6:40pm Toothgrinder Tom: @Mark not Annie the movie.
	🤖 6:40pm Handy Haversack: @Ultrad: What about Under the Skin?
	6:41pm Mark Hurst: @Jake good perspective, thanks
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: Frankenstein fans can watch the live action National Theatre version streaming for free for a few more days. This is with Benedict Cumberbatch and Johnnie Lee Miller (both Sherlocks in other media) swap off as the creator and creature.
	6:42pm ultradamno: @Handy Love the movie, had to get used to the minimalizing of the plot, knowing the book. But it's an entrancing movie.
	🤖 6:42pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, I thought it was excellent, @ultrad. Really enjoyed it.
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: ntlive.nationaltheatre.org.uk...
	🤖 6:43pm chresti: I like Under the Skin, especially the music.
	6:43pm P-90: “Colossus: The Forbin Project” (1970), from the novel “Colossus” by Dennis Feltham Jones, is an often overlooked little gem of a film that I would call a MUST SEE for Mark Hurst. It smartly depicts an accidental AI takeover scenario, AS it might have happened in that period. A surprisingly satisfying film about a subject that’s (almost) always dealt with in unsatisfying ways.
	6:43pm ultradamno: Yeah, it's a real triumphant work for Levi.
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: @chresti yeah Mika Levi .. she was on Morricone Island after that came out.
	🤖 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: War Games - How about a nice game of chess?
	6:44pm Mark Hurst: @P-90 duly noted, thanks!
	6:44pm Tommy in Neversink: I'm watching the Ken Burns Country Music doc
	6:44pm JakeGould: Also, “The Invisible Man” is another tech tragedy: A scientist creates a way to be invisible… And it works! But then he can’t reverse the effects… So he is not a bad person, but is trapped… And the longer time he spends being invisible, the crazier he becomes. So he’s a victim of his own success and loses his basic humanity disappears over time…
	6:45pm Mark Hurst: @Tommy good choice. Honky Tonk Radio Girl did a good show on her impressions of that series
	6:45pm annie: @p-90: a most extraordinary movie for its time@!
	6:45pm JakeGould: The 1933 James Whale film.
	6:45pm Tommy in Neversink: p-90 ....I was considering watching “Colossus" you got me off the fence
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: So Mark - how about a home studio?
	🤖 6:46pm chresti: To be honest, I haven't watched anything.
	6:46pm Mark Hurst: @webham studio for what?
	🤖 6:46pm Folsom: might as well include Fail Safe / Dr Strangelove to include tech problems
	6:46pm ultradamno: Also, the TV show iZombie. They even build a wall.
	6:46pm geezerette: Man With The X-Ray Eyes...Ray Milland
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: @Mark just for being live.
	6:47pm melinda: I've been watching orphaned baby orangutans learn how to be wild in forest schools, but I don't know if that's everyone's bag.
	6:47pm Tommy in Neversink: I caught the HT Radio girl Country music doc inspired shows
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: @webham ahh we'll see
	6:47pm JakeGould: Anyway, anyone want to talk about Murder Hornets?
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: @ultrademo also the "Live Model Decoy" season of Agents of Shield. Lots of robots there!
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: @Jake I'm rooting for the bees
	6:48pm Tommy in Neversink: I don't want to think about those Hornets
	6:48pm queems: i heard hydroxychloroquine works against murder hornets
	6:48pm ultradamno: OK, is Washington State trying to be the Florida of the Pacific Northwest with giant bugs?
	6:48pm JakeGould: The Murder Hornet decapitates honey bees and two stings from that thing on a human will kill them.
	🤖 6:48pm Ken From Hyde Park: Can we email our responses to Aaron in Minneapolis and let his voice machine create the audio?
	6:49pm JakeGould: Anyway, remover when Jerry Seinfeld was obsessed with making that bee movie? That was weird.
	6:49pm Mark Hurst: @queems heh.. that or UV rays
	🤖 6:49pm chresti: Except some Pleasure Dome,and other films, that Little Danny screened during Cool Blue Flame, the last couple-three episodes.
	6:49pm queems: i'm going to record myself recommending bee movie and email it in
	6:50pm ultradamno: Infectious Diseases on Agents of SHIELD thelegalgeeks.com...
	6:50pm JakeGould: More people have watched Tron than that Bee movie.
	🤖 6:50pm Handy Haversack: I have been shouting "laptop, record me!" for a few minutes now, but it seems like it's not doing it.
	6:51pm Tommy in Neversink: Best BW 50s Sci Fi: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
	6:51pm Mark Hurst: @queems love that!
	6:51pm Bootsie: We could make AI drone bees to kill the murder hornets, but as Black Mirror has taught us, that likely won't end well.
	6:52pm David in London: Tommy, for me ‘Them’ still wears that crown I think.
	6:53pm Mark Hurst: @Bootsie watch the short video Slaughterbots, available online
	6:53pm ultradamno: I see Kimmy Schmidt is going to follow up on Black Mirror's choose your adventure interactive episode gimmick, I don't know why.
	6:53pm Mark Hurst: @ultra whyyyy
	6:53pm ultradamno: Them! One of my earliest movie memories.
	6:53pm Chris J: Couple EOW-ish movies I liked -- Children of Men and Transit.
	6:54pm ignatatus666: Zeitgeist a must see
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: I thought Kimmy Schmidt had ended? It filmed around here.
	6:54pm ultradamno: I think it's the final run coming up.
	6:54pm Mark Hurst: Also listed in the playlist, but here's the URL - www.invisiblehandsdeliver.com
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Mark, I'd have spent another hour in this fine conversation -- thanks for hosting! Good chatting with you all!
	6:55pm David in London: Ultradamno, trust me, it’s still awesome.
	🤖 6:55pm herb.nyc: Thanks, wfmu and mark- I heard about Invisible Hands Deliver, last week. They are all over NYC and can help my parents.
	6:55pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks so much! Appreciate you joining in.
	6:55pm David in London: Great show tonight Mark.
	6:55pm queems: thanks mark hurst!
	6:55pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, Daniel Blumin!
	6:55pm zebraboys: Colossus, The Forbin Project. Movie from 1970 about supercomputers in USA & Russia...
	6:55pm melinda: Thanks Mark!
	6:56pm Bootsie: @Mark will.check it out!
	🤖 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Remember to include the new cover sheet on your TPS report, m'kay?
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: @queems @David thanks!
	6:56pm ultradamno: @DiL I don't doubt it! twitter.com...
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul!
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP that'd be GREEAAAT
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @Bas thanks for joining!
	6:57pm craplivion: thank you mark for annother very interesting show out of so many ovewr the years
	6:57pm Toothgrinder Tom: My favorite science fiction movie is the original version of ‘Solaris’.
	6:57pm David in London: Ultradamno, v cool!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @craplivion thanks
	6:58pm listener 126464: Thanks Mark
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @Tom I read the book but haven't seen the movie. Book was... interesting
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Interesting idea about an AI intelligence being planet-scale and untranslatable
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @126464 thanks
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: The noosphere.
	6:59pm melinda: @Toothgrinder I liked Solaris. Couldn't get into it the first time I tried watching but years later it helped me through an anxiety attack.
	7:00pm Toothgrinder Tom: @Mark the movie is like a Soviet 2001.
	🤖 7:00pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	7:00pm ultradamno: Flesh + Blood is pretty appropriately unpleasant plague movie.
	7:01pm craplivion: i should add that this time of life is vital to open our minds to what ever things are there,no matter how negative they may be
	7:03pm Mark Hurst: @chresti thanks!
	7:09pm craplivion: holy cows ultra.do you mean the flesh and blood movie from the late eighties with rutger and jeniffer jason leigh?geez.neverthoughtof that for a comparison.but analycally.pretty good
	7:11pm craplivion: geez.i have no patience for typing.which explains so many typos and big fingers problems
	2:35pm Mark Hurst: Paul's list: - Contagion - Shaun of the Dead - I Am Legend - Office Space - Inception - Deep Impact - Ex Machina - Goldeneye - 8-1/2

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May 4, 2020: Movies covering pandemics, dystopias, AI, and tech gadgets - chosen by Mark's friend Paul in Atlanta

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Tonight: Movies for pandemics and dystopias, with Mark's friend Paul in Atlanta

• Wikipedia: The Day of the Triffids, by John Wyndham. (See also bookshop.org listing.)

• Letter to Jeff Bezos from David Cicilline et al, May 1. Cicilline also provides a pointer to the penalty for perjury.

• Invisible Hands is a group of volunteers in New York City and parts of New Jersey who bring groceries and supplies to those who cannot leave their homes. Services are focused on the elderly, disabled, and immunocompromised, but are available to help anyone in need. Volunteers make deliveries as contactless as possible. To volunteer or for more information, visit invisiblehandsdeliver.com.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Movie picks for pandemics and dystopias, with Mark's friend Paul in Atlanta.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack	No label	0:00:48 (Pop-up)
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"			0:02:16 (Pop-up)
	Interview w/Paul in Atlanta "Interview w/Paul in Atlanta"			0:14:27 (Pop-up)
	Mark's comments "Mark's comments"			0:41:31 (Pop-up)
Cavern of Anti-Matter	Dystopian Shopping Mall	Blood Drums	Grautag	0:53:30 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Techtollywoodlanders!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Well, OK! Techgin (well, Techwine for now) is poured. Ready for some Techtonic! Mark! Techyon drives!
	6:02pm David in London: Greetings Technoids. Hello Mark, hey Handy and Ultradamno.
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Now in Techto-vision!
	6:03pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Handy, David, KfHP!
	6:03pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy technopeople
	6:03pm geezerette: Howdy, Mark and tech-friends and phobes.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends and Skeletons!
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: Ah, Day of the Triffids is a pretty good one! I like Wyndham a lot. I discovered today that where I say "quarantini," my friend in Edinburgh says "locktails"! Great minds. David! Ultradamno! Ken! Glad to be here at the end of all things with such fine folx!
	🤖 6:03pm Bas NL: Mark! Olivia! Tectonicopias!
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	🤖 6:04pm Handy Haversack: Library edition of the ... DAW edition?
	6:04pm annie: grim....... a relative term
	6:04pm David in London: Hi Phillippe.
	6:05pm ultradamno: Hey, if I were looking for a ray of sunshine, I wouldn't be here.
	6:05pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey DiL! Handy! KFHP! Bas!
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: Phillippe, geezerette, Webham, Bas, Annie, hello!
	6:05pm queems: hi mark hurst & all
	6:06pm Mark Hurst: Hey queems, thanks for joining
	6:06pm geezerette: Keep speaking truth ,Mark
	6:06pm David in London: Yeah, we’re here for the truth Mark, not the big yuks, so you keep on keeping on.
	🤖 6:06pm chresti: Hi Mark and Techtonistas!
	6:06pm Phillippe Bastille: I'll update on live sports!: {crickets}
	6:07pm melinda: That's my era of pop culture awareness too.
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Techtonic Movie Night!
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: @geezerette, @david, thanks
	6:07pm Phillippe Bastille: hey chresti, melinda
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: Phillippe! queems! chresti! Good to see you! "On tonight's interview: 'Cellular Phone? Try Cellular Marketing! Amazon Owns Your Cells Now'!" Yeah. But we are here the real talk!
	6:07pm queems: i texted my boss to tell him that zoom was an unsavory video conference tool and he never texted me back lol
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: We need to get past these current virus and Big Tech issues and get the the real problem in tech: portrait mode videos!
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: ^for
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: @chresti, @melinda thanks for joining in!
	6:08pm Mark Hurst: @KenfHP I am with you on that one!
	6:08pm Phillippe Bastille: welcome to my life. Takes me a couple weeks to finish a book
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: @queems thanks for trying, anyway
	🤖 6:09pm chresti: I still have trouble focusing.
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: Pop culture? I've got STAR mag now. Did you know Jennifer Garner and her 14yo daughter look alike? (Mag courtesy of spa next door)
	🤖 6:09pm Bas NL: Same here Mark..
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: hi @herb
	6:09pm brainiac: I've been trying to finish Gravity's Rainbow for 3 years now.
	6:09pm queems: @mark they can't say i didn't warn them
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: @queems that would make a nice tag line for Techtonic
	6:10pm David in London: Hey brainiac.
	6:10pm ignatatus666: We had no choice as kids to watch the movie several times My parents loved it.
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: Oh, my mom adored Day of the Triffids! She always referred to gigunda plants in the garden or out and about as Triffids. Also reassured to hear I'm not the only one who's been shite at finishing books since the virus hit.
	6:10pm queems: @mark next year's marathon t shirt
	6:11pm annie: aahh..you're so young...somuch good stuff written before you were awake
	6:11pm Franco Twinkie: Well, Mark, I never read the book, but I saw the movie! Ha.
	🤖 6:11pm Webhamster Henry: @mark, @queems or "I Told You So."
	6:11pm brainiac: David! waves
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: @James you are not alone
	6:11pm geezerette: Same, my brain froze.
	6:11pm ultradamno: JG Ballard's disaster novels are good for this time, Crystal World, Drowned World and Concrete Island
	🤖 6:11pm herb.nyc: Friends recommend a Jack London short story about surviving, post-disaster. I downloaded it from a free website. Forgot the title.
	6:11pm Phillippe Bastille: @herb.nyc wait, Jennifer Garner has a 14 yr old?
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @Franco @ignatatus shows what I know about movies - I didn't know there was a film version
	6:12pm Bootsie: Oh, I SO love this movie!
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @ultra good pointers, thanks
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Crest edition. Nice cover. Took me forever to finish this book on the Danish expedition to Yemen in the 1760s, but I have made faster progress on the next book. Never seen the Triffids movie but read the book a couple of times.
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @annie happy to hear any reading recommendations you have!
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: Hi @Bootsie
	🤖 6:13pm herb.nyc: "The ease of travel"- I've done 4 subway rides since march 23. All quick and easy, whew.
	6:13pm annie: i'll start a list mark
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: @annie thx
	🤖 6:15pm herb.nyc: Ooh, GClooney and wife Amal having quarantine issues. He says she's kinda bossy.
	🤖 6:16pm Handy Haversack: Listener p20 collected a list of reading recs from alot of WFMU listeners, starting in a Modern World ep. Linked from his profile: docs.google.com...
	6:16pm Ike: As for sci-fi, I've just started listening to the audiobook "We Are Legion (We Are Bob)" and it's quite entertaining so far.
	6:16pm David in London: Mark, there’s a dark twin to The Day of the Triffids called The Death of Grass by an author called John Christopher. He was contemporary with Wyndham in the 50s, and it’s a truly chilling novel.
	6:16pm joe mulligan: I've been trying to think why the 7:00pm clap/hooting/pan banging reminds me of the movie 1984. Then I realized, it's very much like "Two Minutes Hate." Sure it's people "supporting essential workers" but is it really helping them? Why not support better pay for essential workers? It seems more like people letting out their frustrations against the invisible enemy in this war with covid
	6:17pm queems: there used to be a video series on youtube that i liked in college called "28 slater" about mario lopez turning into ac slater every 28 days
	6:17pm Mark Hurst: @David hadn't heard of Death of Grass - thanks
	6:17pm ultradamno: Panic In Year Zero is a movie that keeps coming up in my mind these days also.
	6:17pm Franco Twinkie: Mark, It was one of those bizzaro British sci-fi movies that they showed on Saturday afternoon TV. The solution for the problem was music or salt water, I can't remember which.
	6:18pm Russ Never Sleeps: So, I shared Mark's ACLU interview re: contact tracing with 8 colleagues/friends, and nobody cared. In fact, I was mildly scoffed at. Why is everyone so apathetic about their privacy/civil liberties being compromised, etc? It's difficult to not be angry with them over it.
	6:19pm melinda: @Russ that's sad.
	6:19pm Bootsie: I might be in camp 2... Contagion is on my list but I also kind of want to get away from it right now.
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: @Russ I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for trying. (see also @queems's comment above)
	🤖 6:19pm chresti: Yeah- Panic in the Year Zero.
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: In the movie, what movie does Patrick Dempsey see?
	6:20pm melinda: Patrick Dempsey is from Maine.
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: @Russ, that happens to me and Kate all the time -- and I am sure to Mark, too! But not letting acquiescence get normalized is still worthwhile, I think.
	6:20pm Bootsie: @Franco I know which but not spoiling it. ;-)
	6:21pm annie: listen to the audiobook, The Andromeda Stran"
	6:21pm melinda: Yes to Shaun of the Dead! We need non-downers.
	6:21pm listener james from westwood: "You might remember him from" in a movie context has big Troy McClure energy.
	6:21pm P-90: Mark: “McDreamy? Vas is das McDreamy?”
	6:21pm Franco Twinkie: Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price, and Panic In The Year Zero with Ray Milland. My picks for thrills and chills indoors.
	6:21pm annie: [strain]
	6:21pm ultradamno: Also, Twilight Zone "Stopover in a Quiet Town", probably the best of it's 'someone wakes up in a deserted place' episodes.
	6:21pm ignatatus666: I’m with Mark Never say He was .... as you already know Nope I’m clueless who these people are when friends suggest a program or movie.
	6:21pm brainiac: The Cornetto trilogy is always a good bet
	6:21pm Mark Hurst: @Handy @Russ yes I'm familiar with the feeling. But you're not alone - we're not alone - in trying to spread the word.
	6:22pm David in London: Russ, don’t be discouraged. One has to batter at the door before it gives any. I’ve been amazed by how few people seem at all worried about the dark shadow currently looming above civil liberties.
	6:22pm Bootsie: Oh, no. I Am Legend was my LEAST fave film adaptation of that story.
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: @David well put
	🤖 6:22pm chresti: Nice to see you too, Handy!
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: You want a peek into the way the armed "repoen the stores!" bozos think, go for Judge's later "Idiocracy."
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: @ultra @annie @Franco good picks, thx. Also, stay tuned for my comment post-interview...
	6:23pm Ike: I miss going into the office. A lot.
	🤖 6:23pm chresti: Hi Phillippe. Nice to see you, too.
	6:23pm melinda: Office Space is so good.
	6:23pm geezerette: It's hilarious!
	🤖 6:24pm Ken From Hyde Park: Haha ... Yes to Office Space!
	6:24pm ultradamno: Liquid Sky is a pretty good one, maybe more applicable to STDs, but still an argument for social distancing.
	6:24pm annie: imiss coffee shops
	6:24pm melinda: @annie me too
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: @annie I miss walking through bookstores.
	6:24pm Bootsie: I can't believe I thought Idiocracy was hilarious but ridiculous. Hah.
	6:25pm queems: during this pandemic i've watched a suite of movies that depicts the south/midwest in some type of way- to wong foo, true stories, and son in law
	6:25pm melinda: I've been having stress dreams.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: @Bootsie would have helped if Mike Judge had told us that Idiocracy was a documentary
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: I miss nothing, but then again, I'm a disembodied brain in a vat.
	6:25pm queems: i've never had an attention span for movies/tv
	6:25pm paidforby: You should watch Paprika too! Inception took a lot of its classic scenes from it.
	6:25pm The Butterman: I couldn’t disagree MORE about Roger Rabbit. It holds up. More than ever.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: @queems good picks
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @paidforby thanks, hadn't heard of Paprika
	6:26pm annie: it's funny how much easier it is to read a book in a coffeee shop than at at home
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Heh, my friend in AI did NOT like that table ... 6.1? Fun talk with him about it, though.
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @Butterman interesting - I haven't seen it since it came out
	6:27pm melinda: @annie really? I find them more distracting.
	6:27pm ultradamno: Lars Von Trier had a particularly crazy one with Udo Kier called Epidemic. His TV mini-series The Kingdom would be a great one for this.
	6:27pm Mark Hurst: @Handy did your friend listen to the interview? interested in their impressions (since I disagreed with the AI line in the table, too)
	6:27pm Bootsie: @Mark a quite prescient one!
	6:27pm annie: yes, mark, book shops!! yeah,melinda..weird
	🤖 6:28pm Webhamster Henry: Lars v Trier's Melancholia is also a good end-o-the-worlder
	6:28pm David in London: There always The Road to really lighten the mood.
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @ultra good one - new to me
	🤖 6:28pm chresti: Haha Webham.
	6:29pm annie: ex machina.....meh...bored
	🤖 6:29pm Handy Haversack: I don't think he did (he knows dkg also, BTW), but I ran through the logic behind the AI line, and he did not care for the "well, when we don't know how to calculate the odds, we poll the experts and the public." Which, I can see the problems there.
	🤖 6:29pm chresti: The brain that wouldn't die.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Melancholia is a wonderful movie, a great one to speak to depression and alienation of this time. Ex Machina is great, Inception and I Am Legend were...undeniably movies.
	🤖 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: Any thumbs up for Silent Running? I remember the cure robots.
	6:29pm diciassette: Webhamster Henry, that was bound to come up, wasn't it (loved it)
	6:29pm GListener MW: Just watched Ex Machina recently. What a forward-thinking modern masterpiece
	6:30pm annie: @KfhP: LOVED silent running
	6:30pm Bootsie: I love slow, thoughtful sci-fi.
	🤖 6:30pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, I liked Ex Machina a lot. More than Devs, I think. Though Devs had its moments, that's for sure.
	6:30pm GListener MW: @david — I saw The Road in cinema with my dad on a rainy Christmas Day, which was perfectly apropos for the vibe of the film itself. XD
	🤖 6:30pm Webhamster Henry: @Annie ever see MOON?
	6:31pm David in London: I’m going to big up a nearly forgotten AI sci-fi film called The Forbin Project, which predicted an AI take over (along the lines of Nick Bostrum’s paperclip scenario) in about 1970.
	6:31pm brainiac: @Webhamster: Fully agree regarding Melancholia. It's a good one.
	6:31pm ultradamno: A more recent one that became an instant favorite for me was It Follows, certainly diseaselike in effect and dealing with maintaining community in an alienating situation.
	6:31pm annie: yes, i had to see it a couple times, finally dug it
	6:32pm GListener MW: I love “Moon”. I’ll look up “The Forbin Project”!
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: "What Is Reality" <<< Always a good trope.
	🤖 6:32pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, Moon! Real good! Claire Denis's High Life was excellent, I thought, if you like slow, thoughtful SF. @DIL: I am with you on the Forbin Project!
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: @annie @KfHP silent running, was that like Cool Running?
	6:32pm annie: The Forbin Project!!! what a great flick!
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: @Ultrad: We really loved It Follows, definitely.
	6:33pm Bootsie: @David in London this looks good! www.imdb.com...
	6:33pm geezerette: "Sick" by Todd Haynes is good.
	6:33pm GListener MW: @ultra — I watched “It Follows” for the first time recently too! One of the more original horror/thrillers I’ve seen in years, and will stick with me for quite awhile
	🤖 6:33pm Folsom: I remember watching soap operas when I was a kid, then seeing forbin project, recognized eric braeden
	6:34pm annie: silent running was a human rejecting tech ...bruce dern... see it!
	6:34pm P-90: Daniel Craig’s Bond was very close to Fleming’s original character, which bothered a few people.
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Aii, never heard of Forbin Project, It Follows, Melancholia, Silent Running. I really haven't seen enough movies, I guess
	6:34pm egould310: Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton. Dalton brought a “meanness” to his fighting. Pretty brutal, and violent in fights. I like his Bond.
	6:34pm David in London: Glistener MW, wow, Christmas Day Road, that’s hardcore. Hats off to you!
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: There was a TV movie in 1971 "The Paper Man", an evil computer takes over a building. www.imdb.com...
	6:35pm annie: ian fleming was funded by the cia
	6:35pm ultradamno: 'Chekhov's gun' is what he's describing (a gun on the mantle in the first act will be fired by the end)
	6:35pm Dave from Chicago: Best part of X Machina....when he begins to conspire w robot girl....treats her as a thinking person
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @ultra yes
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: @Dave agreed, that was the crux of the movie, I thought
	6:36pm JakeGould: I used to think “Silent Running” was a good movie until I watched it again and realized it’s just Bruce Dern murdering his cremates to save trees. The end message is quite muddled.
	🤖 6:37pm Webhamster Henry: "Her" is pretty techtonical. The tech is plausable, but I wish they had run the script by me first.
	6:37pm annie: ....he was obcessed,Jake...already mad..
	6:38pm Toothgrinder Tom: This is a pretty good show.
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: @Webham the premise of Her was interesting - but the movie's commentary on it, I disagreed strongly.
	6:38pm ignatatus666: James Bond was replaced by Jason Bourne.
	6:38pm GListener MW: “It’s a little less tech.... is that okay? It’s called The Mirror Has Two Faces.”
	6:38pm annie: Mark, you have allt hose things written down?
	6:39pm Toothgrinder Tom: @annie I thought Ian Fleming hated America?
	🤖 6:39pm Folsom: how about The Manitou where at the end the souls of the computer help attack the bad guy
	6:39pm melinda: Fellini escapism.
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: @annie from the comment board you mean? or Paul's picks from the interview?
	6:39pm annie: ...... he was bought up
	6:39pm geezerette: Papparazo!
	6:39pm Toothgrinder Tom: Do people not know 8 1/2 anymore? When did that happen?
	6:39pm ultradamno: Her is the companion piece to Lucy, in which Scarlett becomes tech (in a far more ridiculous, but also more entertaining, way)
	6:39pm JakeGould: Also, will say I think “Frankenstein” and “Bride of Frankenstein” are two great films whose message is… “If you just build things to build things you will screw up in the end…” Frankenstein was given life and — at his heart — decent creature but was never guided and instantly feared. Also the bride of Frankenstein was given life to be Frankie’s girlfriend… She comes to life, looks at him and just screams. Built with good intentions but when she’s given life, she does not behave as expected.
	6:40pm David in London: egould310 - Me too, I love Dalton’s bond. He brought a real grittiness to it, and a hint of sadness too. Some of the action scenes in License to Kill are still amazing.
	6:40pm annie: from the comment boad
	6:40pm ultradamno: ...and she sort of ascends in the end of both movies.
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: @annie they'll be saved here on the playlist page
	6:40pm brainiac: I got a kick out of AI Alan Watts stealing Joaquin Phoenix's AI girlfriend in Her.
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: @mark HER is absolutely where user interfaces are going -> conversational interfaces.
	6:40pm GListener MW: Great points, Jake!
	6:40pm Toothgrinder Tom: @Mark not Annie the movie.
	🤖 6:40pm Handy Haversack: @Ultrad: What about Under the Skin?
	6:41pm Mark Hurst: @Jake good perspective, thanks
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: Frankenstein fans can watch the live action National Theatre version streaming for free for a few more days. This is with Benedict Cumberbatch and Johnnie Lee Miller (both Sherlocks in other media) swap off as the creator and creature.
	6:42pm ultradamno: @Handy Love the movie, had to get used to the minimalizing of the plot, knowing the book. But it's an entrancing movie.
	🤖 6:42pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, I thought it was excellent, @ultrad. Really enjoyed it.
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: ntlive.nationaltheatre.org.uk...
	🤖 6:43pm chresti: I like Under the Skin, especially the music.
	6:43pm P-90: “Colossus: The Forbin Project” (1970), from the novel “Colossus” by Dennis Feltham Jones, is an often overlooked little gem of a film that I would call a MUST SEE for Mark Hurst. It smartly depicts an accidental AI takeover scenario, AS it might have happened in that period. A surprisingly satisfying film about a subject that’s (almost) always dealt with in unsatisfying ways.
	6:43pm ultradamno: Yeah, it's a real triumphant work for Levi.
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: @chresti yeah Mika Levi .. she was on Morricone Island after that came out.
	🤖 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: War Games - How about a nice game of chess?
	6:44pm Mark Hurst: @P-90 duly noted, thanks!
	6:44pm Tommy in Neversink: I'm watching the Ken Burns Country Music doc
	6:44pm JakeGould: Also, “The Invisible Man” is another tech tragedy: A scientist creates a way to be invisible… And it works! But then he can’t reverse the effects… So he is not a bad person, but is trapped… And the longer time he spends being invisible, the crazier he becomes. So he’s a victim of his own success and loses his basic humanity disappears over time…
	6:45pm Mark Hurst: @Tommy good choice. Honky Tonk Radio Girl did a good show on her impressions of that series
	6:45pm annie: @p-90: a most extraordinary movie for its time@!
	6:45pm JakeGould: The 1933 James Whale film.
	6:45pm Tommy in Neversink: p-90 ....I was considering watching “Colossus" you got me off the fence
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: So Mark - how about a home studio?
	🤖 6:46pm chresti: To be honest, I haven't watched anything.
	6:46pm Mark Hurst: @webham studio for what?
	🤖 6:46pm Folsom: might as well include Fail Safe / Dr Strangelove to include tech problems
	6:46pm ultradamno: Also, the TV show iZombie. They even build a wall.
	6:46pm geezerette: Man With The X-Ray Eyes...Ray Milland
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: @Mark just for being live.
	6:47pm melinda: I've been watching orphaned baby orangutans learn how to be wild in forest schools, but I don't know if that's everyone's bag.
	6:47pm Tommy in Neversink: I caught the HT Radio girl Country music doc inspired shows
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: @webham ahh we'll see
	6:47pm JakeGould: Anyway, anyone want to talk about Murder Hornets?
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: @ultrademo also the "Live Model Decoy" season of Agents of Shield. Lots of robots there!
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: @Jake I'm rooting for the bees
	6:48pm Tommy in Neversink: I don't want to think about those Hornets
	6:48pm queems: i heard hydroxychloroquine works against murder hornets
	6:48pm ultradamno: OK, is Washington State trying to be the Florida of the Pacific Northwest with giant bugs?
	6:48pm JakeGould: The Murder Hornet decapitates honey bees and two stings from that thing on a human will kill them.
	🤖 6:48pm Ken From Hyde Park: Can we email our responses to Aaron in Minneapolis and let his voice machine create the audio?
	6:49pm JakeGould: Anyway, remover when Jerry Seinfeld was obsessed with making that bee movie? That was weird.
	6:49pm Mark Hurst: @queems heh.. that or UV rays
	🤖 6:49pm chresti: Except some Pleasure Dome,and other films, that Little Danny screened during Cool Blue Flame, the last couple-three episodes.
	6:49pm queems: i'm going to record myself recommending bee movie and email it in
	6:50pm ultradamno: Infectious Diseases on Agents of SHIELD thelegalgeeks.com...
	6:50pm JakeGould: More people have watched Tron than that Bee movie.
	🤖 6:50pm Handy Haversack: I have been shouting "laptop, record me!" for a few minutes now, but it seems like it's not doing it.
	6:51pm Tommy in Neversink: Best BW 50s Sci Fi: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
	6:51pm Mark Hurst: @queems love that!
	6:51pm Bootsie: We could make AI drone bees to kill the murder hornets, but as Black Mirror has taught us, that likely won't end well.
	6:52pm David in London: Tommy, for me ‘Them’ still wears that crown I think.
	6:53pm Mark Hurst: @Bootsie watch the short video Slaughterbots, available online
	6:53pm ultradamno: I see Kimmy Schmidt is going to follow up on Black Mirror's choose your adventure interactive episode gimmick, I don't know why.
	6:53pm Mark Hurst: @ultra whyyyy
	6:53pm ultradamno: Them! One of my earliest movie memories.
	6:53pm Chris J: Couple EOW-ish movies I liked -- Children of Men and Transit.
	6:54pm ignatatus666: Zeitgeist a must see
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: I thought Kimmy Schmidt had ended? It filmed around here.
	6:54pm ultradamno: I think it's the final run coming up.
	6:54pm Mark Hurst: Also listed in the playlist, but here's the URL - www.invisiblehandsdeliver.com
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Mark, I'd have spent another hour in this fine conversation -- thanks for hosting! Good chatting with you all!
	6:55pm David in London: Ultradamno, trust me, it’s still awesome.
	🤖 6:55pm herb.nyc: Thanks, wfmu and mark- I heard about Invisible Hands Deliver, last week. They are all over NYC and can help my parents.
	6:55pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks so much! Appreciate you joining in.
	6:55pm David in London: Great show tonight Mark.
	6:55pm queems: thanks mark hurst!
	6:55pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, Daniel Blumin!
	6:55pm zebraboys: Colossus, The Forbin Project. Movie from 1970 about supercomputers in USA & Russia...
	6:55pm melinda: Thanks Mark!
	6:56pm Bootsie: @Mark will.check it out!
	🤖 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Remember to include the new cover sheet on your TPS report, m'kay?
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: @queems @David thanks!
	6:56pm ultradamno: @DiL I don't doubt it! twitter.com...
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul!
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP that'd be GREEAAAT
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @Bas thanks for joining!
	6:57pm craplivion: thank you mark for annother very interesting show out of so many ovewr the years
	6:57pm Toothgrinder Tom: My favorite science fiction movie is the original version of ‘Solaris’.
	6:57pm David in London: Ultradamno, v cool!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @craplivion thanks
	6:58pm listener 126464: Thanks Mark
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @Tom I read the book but haven't seen the movie. Book was... interesting
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Interesting idea about an AI intelligence being planet-scale and untranslatable
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @126464 thanks
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: The noosphere.
	6:59pm melinda: @Toothgrinder I liked Solaris. Couldn't get into it the first time I tried watching but years later it helped me through an anxiety attack.
	7:00pm Toothgrinder Tom: @Mark the movie is like a Soviet 2001.
	🤖 7:00pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	7:00pm ultradamno: Flesh + Blood is pretty appropriately unpleasant plague movie.
	7:01pm craplivion: i should add that this time of life is vital to open our minds to what ever things are there,no matter how negative they may be
	7:03pm Mark Hurst: @chresti thanks!
	7:09pm craplivion: holy cows ultra.do you mean the flesh and blood movie from the late eighties with rutger and jeniffer jason leigh?geez.neverthoughtof that for a comparison.but analycally.pretty good
	7:11pm craplivion: geez.i have no patience for typing.which explains so many typos and big fingers problems
	2:35pm Mark Hurst: Paul's list: - Contagion - Shaun of the Dead - I Am Legend - Office Space - Inception - Deep Impact - Ex Machina - Goldeneye - 8-1/2

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