WFMU: Tom Dash: Playlist from December 11, 2019

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	12:01am ultradamno: HEY!!! MY SOCKS!!! I WAS USING THOSE!!!!
	12:01am Scяaps: Massacre!!!
	12:02am Scяaps: I love love love love this album!
	12:02am malherbo: Lol, that was abrupt!
	12:03am coelacanth∅))): yeah i wasn't quite ready to have no socks on - especially since my shoes are still on
	12:03am chris_in_space: Love this Massacre album too!
	12:04am Scяaps: Used to leave off mix tapes with that very three-running-into songs.... Yeah!
	12:04am Scяaps: LEAD off. jesus
	12:05am TomDash: Good morning. folks! Thanks for tuning in...Massacre was my introduction to the guitar assault of Fred Frith way back when...
	12:05am BH: Gerrit Cole to the Yankees for all of the dollars over 9 seasons. So he'll have the money to buy as much obscure music as he desires.
	12:05am rw: Ha! What Scraps said. Love love love. I just bought a second copy the other day!
	12:05am Scяaps: frith, laswell, maher
	12:06am rw: I think my intro to Frith came through Eno.
	12:07am Scяaps: another awesome 1981 album
	12:10am rw: Oh. Where are my manners? Hello!!
	12:10am mariano: Greetings TomDash, third-shift regulars.
	12:10am TomDash: Hey Scraps - always loved the 3 tracks leading into each other...Hey rw!
	12:12am rw: I could never tell which tracks were which on that LP.
	12:13am Scяaps: Metabolist's =Stagmanaut= is another excellent 1981 album. ;-)
	12:13am rw: TomDash! Nice to hear you're back on as a regular show!
	12:15am TomDash: After 3 club DJ nights out this past week of post-punk, dance punk (Chandra show) and 70s punks, glam, garage (two Spits shows) I needed to switch gears heavy for my FMU show...
	12:16am TomDash: thanks rw, so psyched...
	12:16am coelacanth∅))): rw mine must've been via Eno as well (@12.06)
	12:19am rw: So far I've crossed off six of nine things on my "to do" list for today. Not bad. I might even get one more done before the day's over! Coel, I was trying to remember what Frith I discovered from there. Could have been I bought the Guitar Solos LP. Those Eno records introduced me to SO MANY great artists back then!
	12:19am Scяaps: I really don't remember what my intro to Frith was. Eno, Art Bears, Ralph records..... it's all muddled now
	12:22am choggie: music to watch your clothes tumble in the dryer by
	12:22am coelacanth∅))): rw he knew how to pick 'em. i even learned about roxy music by Phil Manzanera by Brian Eno, working backward
	12:23am choggie: you guys talking about Robert Fripp? I got to see him with the league of crafty guitarists one time that was pretty damn cool
	12:23am Scяaps: Fred Frith
	12:25am Scяaps: Thirty years ago my roommate/friend were always arguing Frith vs Fripp
	12:25am rw: cc, It's a bit of a blur but that could have been my experience too. Frith and Fripp seem to get mixed up a lot! choggie, that sounds like a damn cool show.
	12:26am rw: I fall on the side of Frith.
	12:26am choggie: oh, never heard of mr. Firth
	12:28am rw: choggie, Fred Frith was the guitarist on the opening track (Massacre). That LP (Killing Time) is fucking amazing if you ever get a chance.
	12:28am coelacanth∅))): i know more of Fripp's output so it's not a fair assessment. i really dig 'em both though. very different
	12:30am coelacanth∅))): rw - can is another one via Eno (Jaki Liebezeit on before & after science) ...and Rodelius and Möbius.
	12:31am coelacanth∅))): (as well as my first indication that Phil Collins might be cool after all!)
	12:31am Scяaps: Just because you recommended Fred Lane to me, choggie, I am going to say you at least are going to be interested in Frith.... there's a lot of Frith out there
	12:32am coelacanth∅))): did Frith play with Patti Smith at some point? was that a hallucination?
	12:33am mariano: Perhaps neither here nor there, but wasn't Frith the name of the rabbit god in Watership Down?
	12:34am rw: I didn't know Jaki Liebezeit was on that record. I found Can through normal channels, I think. Probably from listening to weird radio late at night. Fuck. I haven't changed since I was a teenager!
	12:36am mariano: This is gorgeous, this Delphine Dora.
	12:38am coelacanth∅))): if it weren't for that album i might not have heard can until this century! i honestly think i never heard it on wfmu before that and i've never personally known anyone else who knew of the band.
	12:39am mariano: Ooooh, nice drone...
	12:40am johnzo: I’m kind to everyday people and a fucking asshole to most politicians, billionaires... people like that.
	12:41am johnzo: Lol sorry
	12:44am johnzo: This is nice doe, tanks me. DJ man
	12:44am johnzo: *MR. DJ Man
	12:45am mariano: Hey @TomDash, what's the name of the Illitch track you were playing in the background?
	12:48am TomDash: Hey mariano - sorry I can't find it right now. it was off the double CD reissue of Periodik Mindtrouble
	12:52am mariano: Thanks Tom, I'm sure that's good enough to go on!
	1:02am rw: Yes. Everybody likes The Beatles. This is a cool version of Flying!
	1:06am Scяaps: like Juice B Crypts more every time. definitely better than La Di Da Di, reversing the trend downward of their albums...
	1:06am rw: I'm not sure everybody likes the Stones. And this is a cool version of 2000 Light Years from Home!
	1:13am coelacanth∅: definitely have known several people who didn't like the beatles. def known several x more people who didn't like the 'stones. then again many people "don't like" things because they're not open to liking them. - and yet others say they don't like something because they're so insecure that they're afraid they'll be considered part of "the masses" if they like the beatles...or the 'stones...
	1:14am coelacanth∅: (but i do think some people i've known genuinely disliked the beatles. mostly "jazz" guys)
	1:15am johnzo: Not everybody does like the Beatles oddly... I believe Anthony Fontano “The internet’s busiest music nerd” of the Needle Drop did a “stinkpiece” video on people who say “the Beatles are for men
	1:17am johnzo: I like the stones a lot but I do not condone marrying 15 year olds haha... just to make that clear. But the music is great. I heard a great mashup of the altamont tape on fmu called @why are we fighting” by flex unger. That shizz is my jam
	1:17am coelacanth∅: "the beatles are for men"?!! hahaha... i don't even care what the rational is for that one!
	1:18am johnzo: Well I’m sure AF tore them a new one so it might be worth checking out lol... don’t think I’ve seen that one tho
	1:19am mariano: It's inevitable, at some point someone's going to have a go at every sacred cow. I've seen stuff online claiming the Beatles suck, most overrated band in history, etc. I react like Judge Smails in Caddyshack when Dangerfield tells him his country club sucks, and he answers "S-S-S-SUUUCKS?!?
	1:20am coelacanth∅: oh yeah that mashup's rad! i like the 'stones a lot...most of what they did up until the absurdly overrated exile on main st. then that album and goats head soup are good but not great. after that it gets very patchy.
	1:21am mariano: "BUY Bushwood?!? Youuuu..."
	1:22am johnzo: I mean I think technically they’re the best band... in the sense that they have the most good songs. I care more about songwriting than musicianship tho... not that they’re not phenomenal musicians just not technically the best. But 3 amazing songwriters in one group? Can’t beat that... & no offense To Ringo Octopus’s Garden is a very fun song.
	1:22am Scяaps: I have a friend who hates the Beatles, every song (she says), but loves the Kinks. I just don't bring up the subject
	1:23am johnzo: There’s no way to objectively say tho & I grew up on the Beatles so I’m biased. But I don’t listen to them that much anymore... go in phases I guess.
	1:23am johnzo: The kinks are great too...
	1:24am mariano: Oh no, you don't like Exile? Maybe it's my age, but it always seemed to me that Tattoo You was the last true Stones album. But by that point I'd quit keeping up with the newer stuff. Thanks Tom - I actually found the album on YouTube from the info you gave me: www.youtube.com...
	1:24am johnzo: I mean I put the Beatles up near the top but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of bands very nearly as good
	1:25am coelacanth∅: mariano i have that "beatles are extremely overrated" conversation fairly often. a few times/year i'll say. i cannot be objective because that was my introduction to rock & roll at the age of 4-5 and our family sat around and sang along with the whole album on weekends. i do know they were extraordinary though.
	1:26am johnzo: Exile’s a good one tho I haven’t listened to it in a while... at this point technically my favorite band is “whatever they’re playing on WFMU” cause I’ve virtually stopped DJing for myself haha... maybe that’s bad? Idk.
	1:27am johnzo: Cool me too! I used to sit in front of the ole’ hi fi & lay on the floor listening to Beatles tapes
	1:27am johnzo: *coel
	1:28am coelacanth∅: right johnzo i didn't see your post while i typed that!
	1:29am mariano: I'm like you @johnzo: a lifelong Beatles devotee, but I don't listen to them that much. Once a year or every couple of years I listen to a good bit of the discography, it's a special occasion. @coela: very much the same for me, I discovered an older cousin's Beatles albums when I was 9, and it was my first musical awakening. It honestly doesn't bother me anymore if someone slags them off though, no skin off my hump.
	1:30am rw: I guess it's possible young people who grew up on non-rock based music wouldn't like The Beatles. Maybe oldsters too who grew up on Glen Miller. And coel, possibly super-nerd jazzers. Maybe I take it back... Naw, I stand by my earlier statement.
	1:31am johnzo: I’m the same way Mariano... usually when I’m going through a rough patch emotionally
	1:33am johnzo: I picked up a copy of heh Jude just for the novelty... didn’t know that was a official US release , figures it was some weird bootleg
	1:33am johnzo: *figured
	1:34am Scяaps: johnzo, of course the kinks are great. what i meant is, i can't believe she loves the kinks but despises the beatles, without something motivating her, which i'm not going to go into.
	1:35am johnzo: Maybe she associates the Beatles with a pretentious ex boyfriend or something
	1:36am johnzo: It can’t be that she hates fun... if she likes the kinks. It’s a conundrum.
	1:36am mariano: @rw: I've got some friends who are serious jazz musicians, and I've been shocked by some of their listening choices. A lot of it sounds like smooth jazz or new age to my unrefined ears, so maybe they don't have much room to talk, lol. @johnzo: yeah, the Beatles are good for rough times. Thing that gets me is that whenever I give them a listen, there's very often some nuance I hadn't noticed before.
	1:37am johnzo: I think the vast majority of Beatles haters probably haven’t heard much or are merely contrarians by nature.
	1:38am johnzo: True Mariano... & now they have YouTube videos where they isolate various tracks from different songs, some of which are not audible at all on the records
	1:39am BH: yeah, there's a lot of good Beatles stuff that probably coincided with them getting into LSD and going to India a bunch..
	1:39am mariano: Yeah, there's some really interesting YouTube stuff analyzing Beatles tracks.
	1:39am johnzo: Why do I have a feeling there’s someone out there gritting their teeth & saying to themselves “do not comment! Do not comment!” Lol... I know you’re out there Beatles haters! Eh. Don’t really care tho.
	1:40am coelacanth∅: i didn't say i don't like exile! just very VERY highly hyped when i think it was a turn toward stale for the band. the first record is mostly great. the 2nd one? eh. too much piano. too much overproduction and melodrama. that gospelly crap is crap. sorry! then they drag out that Robert Johnson song and don't even do anything with it. happy is good, not great. "sweet black angel" -patronizing, anyone? etc. it's like they had this amazing musician in the band who had so much to do with their best album,sticky fingers, and the 2's egos were like "oh no we don't need him we got this" but they'd already begun to dry up by then. they should've let Mick Taylor move in to a songwriting/arrangement role. (instead of ripping him off and not giving him songwriting credits)
	1:40am johnzo: I like the Hollyhobs... tho I’m sure there’s much more obscure detailed ones that get into crazy minutia
	1:41am Scяaps: there's david thomas, who believes (if you can take him seriously) that the beatles will be forgotten in fifty years, because they are british, and only americans can make real rock
	1:41am coelacanth∅: Scraps i knew what you meant. they're not the same but yeah similar enough that it's suspect.
	1:42am rw: mariano, my son has music arguments (discussions) with a buddy of his who sounds like your jazz friends. I think they're listening to subtle shit that doesn't matter and doesn't make for interesting music. Purity of tone, for example over more important things. Not that purity of tone is irrelevant, just that... well, you know; they're missing the big picture.
	1:42am johnzo: BH someone on YouTube was saying that George Martin was not a fan of George Harrison’s psychedelic Indian stuff... they didn’t list a source. But GM was kinda square compared to them. And older. Not that he wasn’t integral to their development...
	1:44am BH: Rubber Soul and Revolver were really quality (except "Run for your life", we won't speak of that one)
	1:44am coelacanth∅: George Martin was not a fan of anything too out there that they did. that's why Paul was his favorite. (by far) Geoff Emerick really deserves at least as much credit as Martin for all the innovations.
	1:44am TomDash: wow - seems like a spirited discussion going on here. Will have to check out later! ha...
	1:44am johnzo: Shit man there are still plenty of people who think that Paul is dead... and that he’s Vivian Stanshall from the Bonzo Dog Doo Da Band which totally blew my mind.
	1:44am coelacanth∅: (haha although Paul was Emerick's favorite too!)
	1:45am mariano: @coela: come to think of it, I rarely venture into the second disc of Exile. @Scяaps: wait, what now? Dave who?
	1:45am coelacanth∅: Tom your selections are fuel!
	1:46am rw: Tom, you started it when you asked if anybody likes The Beatles. You KNOW that's a loaded question!
	1:47am rw: Oh, yeah, and that Massacre track too!
	1:47am Scяaps: I can't really tell how much Emerick was really a part because apparently he hated Martin and took every opportunity to run him down.... or so I thought
	1:48am TomDash: oh I know I did rw! haha
	1:48am Scяaps: mariano, David Thomas, as in Pere Ubu
	1:49am rw: I gave my buddy a CD rip of The Modern Dance recently to listen in his car and I think I converted him!
	1:51am mariano: Ohhhhh.... wow. Wouldn't have occurred to me, it's so nationalistic. Then again I don't know that much about his views. What a weird claim to make though.
	1:51am mariano: *Was responding to @Scяaps, forgot to add.
	1:54am coelacanth∅: mariano, as a sign that exile is greatly overhyped i just typed "exile" and that album still shows up, 5 hits down on duckduckgo! ...and i'm amending my assessment! (and not assuming anyone cares!) - all 5 songs on side 1 are great; then sweet virginia & torn and frayed from side 2; then turd on the run on side 3. that's about it for great songs on exile! happy and all down the line are good. (not great)
	1:56am mariano: @coela: No argument there, wasn't really familiar with the hype aspect.
	1:59am mariano: Thanks Tom, great gabbin' with y'all. Maybe continue the discussion at the next stop!
	2:02am mariano: Oh derp, another hour left, lol.
	2:05am coelacanth∅: i went out with a beatles hater -but i never really bought it! she's from australia and claimed the beatles copied everything they did from others before them -many from australia. she made many mixtapes for me, which i still love. one is called "stuff to make you hate the beatles" bands that she figured the beatles stole from. ...i think she 1) wanted to be contrary 2) was a bit nationalistic
	2:08am johnzo: As long as we can all agree that Paul is not Vivian Stanshall I think you’re all entitled to your opinions and they’re perfectly valid.
	2:10am rw: Sounds so much like NEU!
	2:11am rw: The Ultravox, I mean.
	2:11am Scяaps: mariano: people talking about Thomas's nationalism, with many quotes: yolacrary.blogspot.com...
	2:13am Scяaps: hm, i'm there in the end, thirteen years ago, before my stroke....
	2:14am coelacanth∅: Scraps (@1.47) i never heard that Emerick hated Martin...though it'd be somewhat understandable. by most (all?) accounts by the band and others Emerick, once he came on board, was the one who came up with the solutions most of the time. John never knew technical stuff, but he knew what he wanted; so he'd say things like "i want to sound like i'm under water" or "...on a windy mountain" and Geoff would figure out how to get the sound. Geoff's the one who close-miced the strings on elenor rigby. Martin never would've done that because classical music was his main interest and his main job at emi, and close-micing strings would be like bowing an electric guitar. but Martin got all the credit.
	2:15am coelacanth∅: Ultavox! is another band i discovered because the record was in the Eno bin. (produced by)
	2:16am fred: Hello Tom and all
	2:17am mariano: That is crazy about David Thomas, Scяaps . And yep, I see your comment in there too. Hey fred, what's up?
	2:18am rw: coel, I think I may have too!! And I forgot they also had the exclamation mark. Definitely they'd been listening to NEU!
	2:18am coelacanth∅: ("miking" i guess it is - not "micing")
	2:19am rw: fred!
	2:20am rw: Okay, it's time for me. Thank you Mr. Dash!! Take care fellow music nerds! Have a good evening (or day)!
	2:21am coelacanth∅: rw they always had Eno-related stuff filed under Eno; or sometimes an "Eno-related" bin! got a few things that way.
	2:21am coelacanth∅: g'night rw
	2:21am fred: Lots of walking for me these days, due to a transit strike (and having tickets to a bunch of shows, most far from where I live)
	2:21am mariano: Good night, @rw. I didn't realize it was Ultravox! with an !.
	2:25am Scяaps: coel, but who gets more credit, the one knows he wants a sound and can describe it, or the one who takes that comment and turns into a sound? Both, right; but for me, the wants-a-sound guy gets more.
	2:26am TomDash: g'night rw! Hey fred, welcome. Coming to the final stretch...
	2:27am Scяaps: also, that's why john/paul/george gets more of the credit than Martin
	2:29am coelacanth∅: exactly. they're the ones who had the ideas. maybe Ringo too. he certainly had input -evn in other's songs, occasionally; though he knew to be very subtle about how to suggest it!
	2:34am coelacanth∅: there's a picture on the stickywebs of John propped upside-down on a chair, singing into a microphone on the floor. apparently that was one of his ideas to get a certain sound for tomorrow never knows. it wasn't satisfactory so he described what he wanted to Geoff and that's when his voice was run through a lesley speaker -which is how we got the sound we all know in that song.
	2:37am mariano: One thing I didn't know till fairly recently is that it's Paul who plays the guitar solo on Tomorrow Never Knows. He also made the tape loops.
	2:39am Scяaps: ooooohhhhhhhhhh, love Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte
	2:46am Scяaps: i hafta go lie down as usual -- cheers, everybody. great show, Tom
	2:48am coelacanth∅: yeah Paul was playing with tape a bit. there's a sound collage he did that some act like is kind of a holy grail but paul wont release it, most likely because it sucks! but it's cool he was doing that. ...both he and George played lead guitar on tnk so they're both in the mix Paul did play lead on taxman though. George's song but apparently he wasn't happy with anything he was coming up with and handed it to Paul! - but then on old brown shoe (one of my faves) George plays all guitars AND bass -and listen to that bass!
	2:48am coelacanth∅: take care Scraps
	2:48am mariano: Good night, Scraps.
	2:51am coelacanth∅: i remember photostadt from that very brief moment in history that wpix-fm was good, 1979.
	2:51am mariano: Yeah, that bass run during "When I grow up I'll be a singer..." is amazing. That's right, forgot Paul plays on Taxman. There's some other unreleased song as well, something along the lines of You Know My Name.
	2:55am TomDash: Thanks for tuning in folks! Promise not to mention any famous bands next week! ciao for now...
	2:56am mariano: Oh man, can't believe the hour is almost upon us. Thanks again Tom, laters everyone!
	2:57am coelacanth∅: shit. why'm i not tired? i have raging bronchitis and i worked today and have to work tomorrow...
	2:57am fred: Thanks Tom! Maybe try an obscure one next time. With the listeners here, that might still resonate
	2:57am coelacanth∅: ...but then, tomorrow never knows.
	2:58am coelacanth∅: haha yeah you think you can deter us with an obscure band?!
	2:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Tom! good night folks
	10:21pm vyser: thanks rw, so psyched... https://drift-boss.io

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December 11, 2019: ...I Am What I Play

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Massacre	Corridor/Lost Causes/Not The Person We Knew	Killing Time	Celluloid	1981				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Metabolist	Curly Wall "Curly Wall" by "Metabolist"	Hansten Klork	Drömm Records	1980				0:07:55 (Pop-up)
Tachycardie	1000 Fois bonjour depuis le vignemale (excerpt)	Probables	Unjenesaisquoi	2019			*	0:16:29 (Pop-up)
Nico	Win A Few "Win A Few" by "Nico"	Behind the Iron Curtain	Dojo	1986		live from 1985		0:23:30 (Pop-up)
Delphine Dora	Erklar Mir Liebe "Erklar Mir Liebe" by "Delphine Dora"	Dunkles Zu Sagen	Fort Evil Fruit	2019			*	0:32:50 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Illitch	"Illitch"							0:36:56 (Pop-up)
Inturist (Интурист)	О Чем Ты Мне Говорила Вчера	Economy	Nisha	2019			*	0:42:01 (Pop-up)
Vision 3D	Party "Party" by "Vision 3D"	Vision 3D	Six Tonnes de Chair	2019			*	0:48:50 (Pop-up)
Battles	Ambulance "Ambulance" by "Battles"	Juice B Crypts	Warp Records	2019			*	0:50:54 (Pop-up)
Ricardo Dias Gomes and Star Rover	Excuse Me	This Whole Emptiness	Timballo	2019			*	0:55:00 (Pop-up)
Parasites of the Western World	Flying	Parasites Of The Western World				Beatles cover from 1978		0:59:13 (Pop-up)
The Stars	2000 Light Years From Home		DeathGuard Records	1975	7"	Todd Tamanend Clark - Stones Cover		1:02:26 (Pop-up)
GR & Full-Blown Expansion	The Metal Spike	GR & Full-Blown Expansion	Lesdisque Blasphematoires Du Palatin	2008				1:05:40 (Pop-up)
Lightning Bolt	All Insane "All Insane" by "Lightning Bolt"	Sonic Citadel	Thrill Jockey	2019			*	1:09:20 (Pop-up)
The Dead C	Bad Politics Baby "Bad Politics Baby" by "The Dead C"							1:14:16 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Ilitch	"Ilitch"							1:16:37 (Pop-up)
Qa'a	Sang "Sang" by "Qa'a"	Sang	Màgia Roja ‎	2013				1:22:56 (Pop-up)
Jamael Dean	Akamara (remix) "Akamara (remix)" by "Jamael Dean"	Black Space Tapes	Stones Throw	2019			*	1:29:07 (Pop-up)
Sam Wilkes	Sivaya "Sivaya" by "Sam Wilkes"	Live On the Green	Leaving	2019		Alice Coltrane	*	1:33:04 (Pop-up)
Olo Walicki/Jacek Proscisnki	Katorga	Llovage	Gusstaff Records	2019			*	1:38:26 (Pop-up)
Idea Fire Company	Is It Love? "Is It Love?" by "Idea Fire Company"	The Light that Never Ceases to Fail	Feeding Tube	2019			*	1:45:11 (Pop-up)
Älgarnas Trädgård	Almond Raga "Almond Raga" by "Älgarnas Trädgård"	Delayed	Silence	2001	CD	previously unreleased 2nd LP circa 1974-75		1:50:11 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Ilitch	"Ilitch"							1:57:04 (Pop-up)
Victory Acres	Let's Just Lounge "Let's Just Lounge" by "Victory Acres"			1988				2:03:32 (Pop-up)
Ultravox	I can't Stay Long "I can't Stay Long" by "Ultravox"	Systems of Romance	Island Records	1978				2:06:45 (Pop-up)
The Velvet Monkeys	World Of... "World Of..." by "The Velvet Monkeys"	Future	Fountain of Youth	1983				2:10:49 (Pop-up)
Chandra	Day Without Success "Day Without Success" by "Chandra"	Blue Stage Sessions	Third Man Records	2019	7"	new Chandra recordings...live at Third Man	*	2:15:26 (Pop-up)
Easter and the Totem	Days After "Days After" by "Easter and the Totem"	The Sum Is Greater Than Its Parts	S-S Records	2015		orig 1986		2:20:51 (Pop-up)
Caspar Brötzmann Massaker	Böhmen	Black Axis		1989	CD			2:26:22 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Peter Michael Hamel	"Peter Michael Hamel"							2:35:01 (Pop-up)
Popul Vuh	Oh Wie Weit Ist Der Weg Hinauf	Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte						2:37:50 (Pop-up)
John Ellis	Photostadt "Photostadt" by "John Ellis"	Babies In Jars single	Rat Race Records	1979	7"			2:43:09 (Pop-up)
Electric Funeral	War Funeral Song	The Wild Performance	Guerssen Records	2019		Unreleased from 1970	*	2:46:27 (Pop-up)
Igra Staklenih Perli	Soft Explosion	Soft Explosion Live	Kalemegdan Disk	1991		Live at Belgrade University 1978		2:51:26 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	12:01am ultradamno: HEY!!! MY SOCKS!!! I WAS USING THOSE!!!!
	12:01am Scяaps: Massacre!!!
	12:02am Scяaps: I love love love love this album!
	12:02am malherbo: Lol, that was abrupt!
	12:03am coelacanth∅))): yeah i wasn't quite ready to have no socks on - especially since my shoes are still on
	12:03am chris_in_space: Love this Massacre album too!
	12:04am Scяaps: Used to leave off mix tapes with that very three-running-into songs.... Yeah!
	12:04am Scяaps: LEAD off. jesus
	12:05am TomDash: Good morning. folks! Thanks for tuning in...Massacre was my introduction to the guitar assault of Fred Frith way back when...
	12:05am BH: Gerrit Cole to the Yankees for all of the dollars over 9 seasons. So he'll have the money to buy as much obscure music as he desires.
	12:05am rw: Ha! What Scraps said. Love love love. I just bought a second copy the other day!
	12:05am Scяaps: frith, laswell, maher
	12:06am rw: I think my intro to Frith came through Eno.
	12:07am Scяaps: another awesome 1981 album
	12:10am rw: Oh. Where are my manners? Hello!!
	12:10am mariano: Greetings TomDash, third-shift regulars.
	12:10am TomDash: Hey Scraps - always loved the 3 tracks leading into each other...Hey rw!
	12:12am rw: I could never tell which tracks were which on that LP.
	12:13am Scяaps: Metabolist's =Stagmanaut= is another excellent 1981 album. ;-)
	12:13am rw: TomDash! Nice to hear you're back on as a regular show!
	12:15am TomDash: After 3 club DJ nights out this past week of post-punk, dance punk (Chandra show) and 70s punks, glam, garage (two Spits shows) I needed to switch gears heavy for my FMU show...
	12:16am TomDash: thanks rw, so psyched...
	12:16am coelacanth∅))): rw mine must've been via Eno as well (@12.06)
	12:19am rw: So far I've crossed off six of nine things on my "to do" list for today. Not bad. I might even get one more done before the day's over! Coel, I was trying to remember what Frith I discovered from there. Could have been I bought the Guitar Solos LP. Those Eno records introduced me to SO MANY great artists back then!
	12:19am Scяaps: I really don't remember what my intro to Frith was. Eno, Art Bears, Ralph records..... it's all muddled now
	12:22am choggie: music to watch your clothes tumble in the dryer by
	12:22am coelacanth∅))): rw he knew how to pick 'em. i even learned about roxy music by Phil Manzanera by Brian Eno, working backward
	12:23am choggie: you guys talking about Robert Fripp? I got to see him with the league of crafty guitarists one time that was pretty damn cool
	12:23am Scяaps: Fred Frith
	12:25am Scяaps: Thirty years ago my roommate/friend were always arguing Frith vs Fripp
	12:25am rw: cc, It's a bit of a blur but that could have been my experience too. Frith and Fripp seem to get mixed up a lot! choggie, that sounds like a damn cool show.
	12:26am rw: I fall on the side of Frith.
	12:26am choggie: oh, never heard of mr. Firth
	12:28am rw: choggie, Fred Frith was the guitarist on the opening track (Massacre). That LP (Killing Time) is fucking amazing if you ever get a chance.
	12:28am coelacanth∅))): i know more of Fripp's output so it's not a fair assessment. i really dig 'em both though. very different
	12:30am coelacanth∅))): rw - can is another one via Eno (Jaki Liebezeit on before & after science) ...and Rodelius and Möbius.
	12:31am coelacanth∅))): (as well as my first indication that Phil Collins might be cool after all!)
	12:31am Scяaps: Just because you recommended Fred Lane to me, choggie, I am going to say you at least are going to be interested in Frith.... there's a lot of Frith out there
	12:32am coelacanth∅))): did Frith play with Patti Smith at some point? was that a hallucination?
	12:33am mariano: Perhaps neither here nor there, but wasn't Frith the name of the rabbit god in Watership Down?
	12:34am rw: I didn't know Jaki Liebezeit was on that record. I found Can through normal channels, I think. Probably from listening to weird radio late at night. Fuck. I haven't changed since I was a teenager!
	12:36am mariano: This is gorgeous, this Delphine Dora.
	12:38am coelacanth∅))): if it weren't for that album i might not have heard can until this century! i honestly think i never heard it on wfmu before that and i've never personally known anyone else who knew of the band.
	12:39am mariano: Ooooh, nice drone...
	12:40am johnzo: I’m kind to everyday people and a fucking asshole to most politicians, billionaires... people like that.
	12:41am johnzo: Lol sorry
	12:44am johnzo: This is nice doe, tanks me. DJ man
	12:44am johnzo: *MR. DJ Man
	12:45am mariano: Hey @TomDash, what's the name of the Illitch track you were playing in the background?
	12:48am TomDash: Hey mariano - sorry I can't find it right now. it was off the double CD reissue of Periodik Mindtrouble
	12:52am mariano: Thanks Tom, I'm sure that's good enough to go on!
	1:02am rw: Yes. Everybody likes The Beatles. This is a cool version of Flying!
	1:06am Scяaps: like Juice B Crypts more every time. definitely better than La Di Da Di, reversing the trend downward of their albums...
	1:06am rw: I'm not sure everybody likes the Stones. And this is a cool version of 2000 Light Years from Home!
	1:13am coelacanth∅: definitely have known several people who didn't like the beatles. def known several x more people who didn't like the 'stones. then again many people "don't like" things because they're not open to liking them. - and yet others say they don't like something because they're so insecure that they're afraid they'll be considered part of "the masses" if they like the beatles...or the 'stones...
	1:14am coelacanth∅: (but i do think some people i've known genuinely disliked the beatles. mostly "jazz" guys)
	1:15am johnzo: Not everybody does like the Beatles oddly... I believe Anthony Fontano “The internet’s busiest music nerd” of the Needle Drop did a “stinkpiece” video on people who say “the Beatles are for men
	1:17am johnzo: I like the stones a lot but I do not condone marrying 15 year olds haha... just to make that clear. But the music is great. I heard a great mashup of the altamont tape on fmu called @why are we fighting” by flex unger. That shizz is my jam
	1:17am coelacanth∅: "the beatles are for men"?!! hahaha... i don't even care what the rational is for that one!
	1:18am johnzo: Well I’m sure AF tore them a new one so it might be worth checking out lol... don’t think I’ve seen that one tho
	1:19am mariano: It's inevitable, at some point someone's going to have a go at every sacred cow. I've seen stuff online claiming the Beatles suck, most overrated band in history, etc. I react like Judge Smails in Caddyshack when Dangerfield tells him his country club sucks, and he answers "S-S-S-SUUUCKS?!?
	1:20am coelacanth∅: oh yeah that mashup's rad! i like the 'stones a lot...most of what they did up until the absurdly overrated exile on main st. then that album and goats head soup are good but not great. after that it gets very patchy.
	1:21am mariano: "BUY Bushwood?!? Youuuu..."
	1:22am johnzo: I mean I think technically they’re the best band... in the sense that they have the most good songs. I care more about songwriting than musicianship tho... not that they’re not phenomenal musicians just not technically the best. But 3 amazing songwriters in one group? Can’t beat that... & no offense To Ringo Octopus’s Garden is a very fun song.
	1:22am Scяaps: I have a friend who hates the Beatles, every song (she says), but loves the Kinks. I just don't bring up the subject
	1:23am johnzo: There’s no way to objectively say tho & I grew up on the Beatles so I’m biased. But I don’t listen to them that much anymore... go in phases I guess.
	1:23am johnzo: The kinks are great too...
	1:24am mariano: Oh no, you don't like Exile? Maybe it's my age, but it always seemed to me that Tattoo You was the last true Stones album. But by that point I'd quit keeping up with the newer stuff. Thanks Tom - I actually found the album on YouTube from the info you gave me: www.youtube.com...
	1:24am johnzo: I mean I put the Beatles up near the top but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of bands very nearly as good
	1:25am coelacanth∅: mariano i have that "beatles are extremely overrated" conversation fairly often. a few times/year i'll say. i cannot be objective because that was my introduction to rock & roll at the age of 4-5 and our family sat around and sang along with the whole album on weekends. i do know they were extraordinary though.
	1:26am johnzo: Exile’s a good one tho I haven’t listened to it in a while... at this point technically my favorite band is “whatever they’re playing on WFMU” cause I’ve virtually stopped DJing for myself haha... maybe that’s bad? Idk.
	1:27am johnzo: Cool me too! I used to sit in front of the ole’ hi fi & lay on the floor listening to Beatles tapes
	1:27am johnzo: *coel
	1:28am coelacanth∅: right johnzo i didn't see your post while i typed that!
	1:29am mariano: I'm like you @johnzo: a lifelong Beatles devotee, but I don't listen to them that much. Once a year or every couple of years I listen to a good bit of the discography, it's a special occasion. @coela: very much the same for me, I discovered an older cousin's Beatles albums when I was 9, and it was my first musical awakening. It honestly doesn't bother me anymore if someone slags them off though, no skin off my hump.
	1:30am rw: I guess it's possible young people who grew up on non-rock based music wouldn't like The Beatles. Maybe oldsters too who grew up on Glen Miller. And coel, possibly super-nerd jazzers. Maybe I take it back... Naw, I stand by my earlier statement.
	1:31am johnzo: I’m the same way Mariano... usually when I’m going through a rough patch emotionally
	1:33am johnzo: I picked up a copy of heh Jude just for the novelty... didn’t know that was a official US release , figures it was some weird bootleg
	1:33am johnzo: *figured
	1:34am Scяaps: johnzo, of course the kinks are great. what i meant is, i can't believe she loves the kinks but despises the beatles, without something motivating her, which i'm not going to go into.
	1:35am johnzo: Maybe she associates the Beatles with a pretentious ex boyfriend or something
	1:36am johnzo: It can’t be that she hates fun... if she likes the kinks. It’s a conundrum.
	1:36am mariano: @rw: I've got some friends who are serious jazz musicians, and I've been shocked by some of their listening choices. A lot of it sounds like smooth jazz or new age to my unrefined ears, so maybe they don't have much room to talk, lol. @johnzo: yeah, the Beatles are good for rough times. Thing that gets me is that whenever I give them a listen, there's very often some nuance I hadn't noticed before.
	1:37am johnzo: I think the vast majority of Beatles haters probably haven’t heard much or are merely contrarians by nature.
	1:38am johnzo: True Mariano... & now they have YouTube videos where they isolate various tracks from different songs, some of which are not audible at all on the records
	1:39am BH: yeah, there's a lot of good Beatles stuff that probably coincided with them getting into LSD and going to India a bunch..
	1:39am mariano: Yeah, there's some really interesting YouTube stuff analyzing Beatles tracks.
	1:39am johnzo: Why do I have a feeling there’s someone out there gritting their teeth & saying to themselves “do not comment! Do not comment!” Lol... I know you’re out there Beatles haters! Eh. Don’t really care tho.
	1:40am coelacanth∅: i didn't say i don't like exile! just very VERY highly hyped when i think it was a turn toward stale for the band. the first record is mostly great. the 2nd one? eh. too much piano. too much overproduction and melodrama. that gospelly crap is crap. sorry! then they drag out that Robert Johnson song and don't even do anything with it. happy is good, not great. "sweet black angel" -patronizing, anyone? etc. it's like they had this amazing musician in the band who had so much to do with their best album,sticky fingers, and the 2's egos were like "oh no we don't need him we got this" but they'd already begun to dry up by then. they should've let Mick Taylor move in to a songwriting/arrangement role. (instead of ripping him off and not giving him songwriting credits)
	1:40am johnzo: I like the Hollyhobs... tho I’m sure there’s much more obscure detailed ones that get into crazy minutia
	1:41am Scяaps: there's david thomas, who believes (if you can take him seriously) that the beatles will be forgotten in fifty years, because they are british, and only americans can make real rock
	1:41am coelacanth∅: Scraps i knew what you meant. they're not the same but yeah similar enough that it's suspect.
	1:42am rw: mariano, my son has music arguments (discussions) with a buddy of his who sounds like your jazz friends. I think they're listening to subtle shit that doesn't matter and doesn't make for interesting music. Purity of tone, for example over more important things. Not that purity of tone is irrelevant, just that... well, you know; they're missing the big picture.
	1:42am johnzo: BH someone on YouTube was saying that George Martin was not a fan of George Harrison’s psychedelic Indian stuff... they didn’t list a source. But GM was kinda square compared to them. And older. Not that he wasn’t integral to their development...
	1:44am BH: Rubber Soul and Revolver were really quality (except "Run for your life", we won't speak of that one)
	1:44am coelacanth∅: George Martin was not a fan of anything too out there that they did. that's why Paul was his favorite. (by far) Geoff Emerick really deserves at least as much credit as Martin for all the innovations.
	1:44am TomDash: wow - seems like a spirited discussion going on here. Will have to check out later! ha...
	1:44am johnzo: Shit man there are still plenty of people who think that Paul is dead... and that he’s Vivian Stanshall from the Bonzo Dog Doo Da Band which totally blew my mind.
	1:44am coelacanth∅: (haha although Paul was Emerick's favorite too!)
	1:45am mariano: @coela: come to think of it, I rarely venture into the second disc of Exile. @Scяaps: wait, what now? Dave who?
	1:45am coelacanth∅: Tom your selections are fuel!
	1:46am rw: Tom, you started it when you asked if anybody likes The Beatles. You KNOW that's a loaded question!
	1:47am rw: Oh, yeah, and that Massacre track too!
	1:47am Scяaps: I can't really tell how much Emerick was really a part because apparently he hated Martin and took every opportunity to run him down.... or so I thought
	1:48am TomDash: oh I know I did rw! haha
	1:48am Scяaps: mariano, David Thomas, as in Pere Ubu
	1:49am rw: I gave my buddy a CD rip of The Modern Dance recently to listen in his car and I think I converted him!
	1:51am mariano: Ohhhhh.... wow. Wouldn't have occurred to me, it's so nationalistic. Then again I don't know that much about his views. What a weird claim to make though.
	1:51am mariano: *Was responding to @Scяaps, forgot to add.
	1:54am coelacanth∅: mariano, as a sign that exile is greatly overhyped i just typed "exile" and that album still shows up, 5 hits down on duckduckgo! ...and i'm amending my assessment! (and not assuming anyone cares!) - all 5 songs on side 1 are great; then sweet virginia & torn and frayed from side 2; then turd on the run on side 3. that's about it for great songs on exile! happy and all down the line are good. (not great)
	1:56am mariano: @coela: No argument there, wasn't really familiar with the hype aspect.
	1:59am mariano: Thanks Tom, great gabbin' with y'all. Maybe continue the discussion at the next stop!
	2:02am mariano: Oh derp, another hour left, lol.
	2:05am coelacanth∅: i went out with a beatles hater -but i never really bought it! she's from australia and claimed the beatles copied everything they did from others before them -many from australia. she made many mixtapes for me, which i still love. one is called "stuff to make you hate the beatles" bands that she figured the beatles stole from. ...i think she 1) wanted to be contrary 2) was a bit nationalistic
	2:08am johnzo: As long as we can all agree that Paul is not Vivian Stanshall I think you’re all entitled to your opinions and they’re perfectly valid.
	2:10am rw: Sounds so much like NEU!
	2:11am rw: The Ultravox, I mean.
	2:11am Scяaps: mariano: people talking about Thomas's nationalism, with many quotes: yolacrary.blogspot.com...
	2:13am Scяaps: hm, i'm there in the end, thirteen years ago, before my stroke....
	2:14am coelacanth∅: Scraps (@1.47) i never heard that Emerick hated Martin...though it'd be somewhat understandable. by most (all?) accounts by the band and others Emerick, once he came on board, was the one who came up with the solutions most of the time. John never knew technical stuff, but he knew what he wanted; so he'd say things like "i want to sound like i'm under water" or "...on a windy mountain" and Geoff would figure out how to get the sound. Geoff's the one who close-miced the strings on elenor rigby. Martin never would've done that because classical music was his main interest and his main job at emi, and close-micing strings would be like bowing an electric guitar. but Martin got all the credit.
	2:15am coelacanth∅: Ultavox! is another band i discovered because the record was in the Eno bin. (produced by)
	2:16am fred: Hello Tom and all
	2:17am mariano: That is crazy about David Thomas, Scяaps . And yep, I see your comment in there too. Hey fred, what's up?
	2:18am rw: coel, I think I may have too!! And I forgot they also had the exclamation mark. Definitely they'd been listening to NEU!
	2:18am coelacanth∅: ("miking" i guess it is - not "micing")
	2:19am rw: fred!
	2:20am rw: Okay, it's time for me. Thank you Mr. Dash!! Take care fellow music nerds! Have a good evening (or day)!
	2:21am coelacanth∅: rw they always had Eno-related stuff filed under Eno; or sometimes an "Eno-related" bin! got a few things that way.
	2:21am coelacanth∅: g'night rw
	2:21am fred: Lots of walking for me these days, due to a transit strike (and having tickets to a bunch of shows, most far from where I live)
	2:21am mariano: Good night, @rw. I didn't realize it was Ultravox! with an !.
	2:25am Scяaps: coel, but who gets more credit, the one knows he wants a sound and can describe it, or the one who takes that comment and turns into a sound? Both, right; but for me, the wants-a-sound guy gets more.
	2:26am TomDash: g'night rw! Hey fred, welcome. Coming to the final stretch...
	2:27am Scяaps: also, that's why john/paul/george gets more of the credit than Martin
	2:29am coelacanth∅: exactly. they're the ones who had the ideas. maybe Ringo too. he certainly had input -evn in other's songs, occasionally; though he knew to be very subtle about how to suggest it!
	2:34am coelacanth∅: there's a picture on the stickywebs of John propped upside-down on a chair, singing into a microphone on the floor. apparently that was one of his ideas to get a certain sound for tomorrow never knows. it wasn't satisfactory so he described what he wanted to Geoff and that's when his voice was run through a lesley speaker -which is how we got the sound we all know in that song.
	2:37am mariano: One thing I didn't know till fairly recently is that it's Paul who plays the guitar solo on Tomorrow Never Knows. He also made the tape loops.
	2:39am Scяaps: ooooohhhhhhhhhh, love Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte
	2:46am Scяaps: i hafta go lie down as usual -- cheers, everybody. great show, Tom
	2:48am coelacanth∅: yeah Paul was playing with tape a bit. there's a sound collage he did that some act like is kind of a holy grail but paul wont release it, most likely because it sucks! but it's cool he was doing that. ...both he and George played lead guitar on tnk so they're both in the mix Paul did play lead on taxman though. George's song but apparently he wasn't happy with anything he was coming up with and handed it to Paul! - but then on old brown shoe (one of my faves) George plays all guitars AND bass -and listen to that bass!
	2:48am coelacanth∅: take care Scraps
	2:48am mariano: Good night, Scraps.
	2:51am coelacanth∅: i remember photostadt from that very brief moment in history that wpix-fm was good, 1979.
	2:51am mariano: Yeah, that bass run during "When I grow up I'll be a singer..." is amazing. That's right, forgot Paul plays on Taxman. There's some other unreleased song as well, something along the lines of You Know My Name.
	2:55am TomDash: Thanks for tuning in folks! Promise not to mention any famous bands next week! ciao for now...
	2:56am mariano: Oh man, can't believe the hour is almost upon us. Thanks again Tom, laters everyone!
	2:57am coelacanth∅: shit. why'm i not tired? i have raging bronchitis and i worked today and have to work tomorrow...
	2:57am fred: Thanks Tom! Maybe try an obscure one next time. With the listeners here, that might still resonate
	2:57am coelacanth∅: ...but then, tomorrow never knows.
	2:58am coelacanth∅: haha yeah you think you can deter us with an obscure band?!
	2:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Tom! good night folks
	10:21pm vyser: thanks rw, so psyched... https://drift-boss.io

Tom Dash: Playlist from December 11, 2019

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