WFMU: The Cool Blue Flame with Little Danny: Playlist from October 18, 2018

Listener comments!
	10:01pm Little Danny: My friends!
	10:01pm coelacanth∅: hello again!
	📉 10:01pm chresti: Stream-0-go Round! Hi again!
	10:02pm coelacanth∅: uh oh not hearing fire island
	10:02pm melinda: Now we move to the room next door...
	10:03pm Flash Strap: Hiya Danny and all! yeah not hearing Fire Island yet
	10:04pm Flash Strap: ah yes yes YES
	10:04pm coelacanth∅: this sounds like afro-mambo!
	10:05pm Little Danny: Thanks all. Raising my tumbler to a gremlin-free show
	10:06pm coelacanth∅: cheers! (pineapple juice... i'm abstaining from alcohol for a while)
	10:07pm doctorjazz: Made it home! Sounding good, Danny!
	10:07pm Little Danny: This Roberto/Latin Aces gets real interesting in a sec
	📉 10:08pm chresti: salude! I raise my cuppa tea! I am a bit woozy from kombucha, though
	10:08pm Flash Strap: god this is amazing man
	10:09pm Kris Holmes: Gnarly guitar sounds
	10:09pm doctorjazz: Good vibes all around!
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: yeah those gits!
	10:11pm Little Danny: Thanks all! Gonna be scrambling around with the 45s for a bit until I get my bearings, so excuse my scarceness for a coupla minutes. I don't know how Kris Holmes does it...
	10:11pm Kris Holmes: I’ve been on a Palmieri kick lately
	10:13pm Kris Holmes: Don’t know how people do LPs to be honest, inners, outer, jackets everywhere, so bulky
	📉 10:14pm chresti: a spindle? is that what's on a a record changer ?
	10:17pm Little Danny: I think so chresti. Or the little pole that sticks up outta the turntable platter
	📉 10:18pm chresti: there you have it!
	10:19pm coelacanth∅: hahaha! the little pole is a spindle, so what's a 7" (big hole) adapter for the turntable called?
	10:20pm coelacanth∅: (besides an adapter...that's boring)
	📉 10:22pm chresti: that's something franco might know-
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: anyway i remember when i was little the only adapters available were metal and it took some finesse to lock them into the 45s. i broke at least one 45 in half and i know my siblings broke some too.
	📉 10:24pm chresti: he told me once, and I laughed and laughed-can't remember what it was
	10:25pm coelacanth∅: then the yellow plastic ones came along but they fell out a lot. i had to splurge with lawn-raking money to get the one that goes on the turntable.
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: chresti if he makes up a new name for it i'm fine with that!
	10:26pm doctorjazz: I had the little yellow plastic ones with the curved arms, still have plastic domed ones. Never heard them called anything but 45 4pm adaptors
	📉 10:26pm chresti: the hifi had a large metal column attachment for 45s
	10:27pm Dean: I have a plastic domed Todd Rundgren & Utopia 45 adapter, Think I grabbed it at Tower Records ages ago.
	10:29pm Kris Holmes: Donut holes
	10:29pm doctorjazz: My parents Home Entertainment Unit had a rectangular attachment you put on the spindle and it let you put on many 45's to play one after another.
	📉 10:29pm chresti: That's it! HAHAHA!
	📉 10:30pm chresti: Donut holes!
	10:30pm Little Danny: These are the best comments. Seriously. SPINDLE TALK
	10:31pm coelacanth∅: chresti i remember seeing those but my father never had one - which is crazy because my parents went on a 45 kick and had at least 75-150 little records with big holes. when i got a new stereo at age 12? (total shit. i wish i'd kept my c.1960? rca portable stereo but i gave it to a friend) it came with a plastic record changer adapter for 45s but it never worked right.
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: obviously Kris knew!
	📉 10:34pm chresti: My parents didn't play 45s, our babysitter did, then my brother, when he started getting records
	📉 10:35pm chresti: thanks Kris!
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: child me just didn't get those metal adapters. the way i saw it they were permanent. too much effort and risk to be switching from record to record. but buying one for every 45? crazy talk! i have maybe 500 45s i can't imagine Kris you must have 15000.
	10:37pm Kris Holmes: I had a 70s console hi fi with a record stacker as my main bedroom turntable from the time I was 10 through until I left home to go to college. It actually had a changeable spindle where you could fit the changer spindle or the regular spindle. In NZ everything was small hole!
	10:40pm Kris Holmes: Only 7500
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: right when i bought my first turntable it came with a spindle + a record changer. by then i knew that stacking my records would ruin them. the turntable/amp that i got for xmas when i was 12 had an unremovable changer and i hated it to the point that i ripped the changing devise out of the spindle with a plyer!
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: 7500 is a lot but still i'm surprised!
	10:43pm northguineahills: arrived in a biomere self-contained cocoon!
	📉 10:43pm chresti: My first personal record player was a little plastic one- I think I was 11 We got a portable stereo after we moved to California
	10:48pm northguineahills: When I was four, a great uncle gave me a mickey mouse 45 player, and a bunch of early 60s 45s. I loved it, but it would be another 12 years before I got the music bug.
	10:48pm Dean: I have measured out my life with stereo gear. -- J. Alfred Audiophile
	10:49pm doctorjazz: Love this Cha Cha Baby, baby!
	10:51pm Little Danny: Of course you do, doc! Lotsa vibes ahead
	10:55pm doctorjazz: Hot stuff!
	10:56pm Scraps: A yellow (typically) 45 adapter is a spider.
	10:57pm mauri: takes me away to a warm dream island. hey danny and everyone.
	10:58pm Scraps: signed, Copy Editor
	10:59pm Little Danny: Hey mauri! I'm glad!
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: this looks kind of like "the kids' record player" which became mine gradually because i was the only one who used it. i.etsystatic.com... - except it was supposed to be stereo and had a speaker fold out from each side.
	10:59pm Little Danny: Hi scraps!
	10:59pm Little Danny: @doc: y'know this Dizzy? It's a deepie
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: pretty sure it had tubes. i remember glowing orangeness through the vent grate.
	11:00pm Little Danny: Young Hank Mobley on saxamaphone here
	11:01pm doctorjazz: I wasn't looking at the playlist, but it had that Diz tone, really like this one (and hadn't heard it . Cool!
	11:02pm doctorjazz: Dig those Dizzisms!
	11:06pm Scraps: Wikipedia on the spider (with picture, a yellow spider: The former RCA Corporation introduced a snap-in plastic insert known as a spider [1] to make 45 rpm records compatible with the smaller spindle size of a 33⅓ rpm LP record player. Commissioned by RCA president David Sarnoff and invented by Thomas Hutchison, spiders were prevalent in the 1960s and sold tens of millions per year. The Hutchison adapter included small bumps called "drive pins," which locked the adapters together while revolving, thus preventing the stacked records from slipping against each other. Several manufacturers made "spider" adapters in slightly varying shapes and many different colors, though yellow and red were most frequently used.
	11:08pm Scraps: (red?)
	11:08pm northguineahills: @Scraps, I used to have quite a few, but the last one broke last winter. I actually have more Latin 78s then 45s (I got lucky at some old antique stores in Mexico).
	📉 11:09pm JtotheK: hi!
	11:11pm Little Danny: Jason! Hello!
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: Scraps i do fuzzily recall them being called that
	11:12pm Dean: @northguineahills: I envy your take, but I wonder: Are there new antique stores in Mexico?
	11:14pm doctorjazz: I only buy new antiques!
	11:14pm Scraps: I only ran into the Spider name when I was a 45 buyer for the record store I worked at, and I also bought accessories
	11:15pm coelacanth∅: there were all these variations c1.staticflickr.com... (like that triangle topleft that obviously will fail) but i only ever saw the row 2, 3rd from left -which i could see calling a spider; though really 3/8 of a spider!
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: (the far right, 2nd from bottom were the ones we had when i was little)
	📉 11:16pm chresti: That's like a Califone-or a classroom record player-great
	📉 11:16pm chresti: spider donut!
	11:18pm northguineahills: Found one! but it's NYC, as the missus has a 45 player. Back to the interwebs!
	11:18pm Scraps: I saw row 1 4th from left (black), but otherwise I only saw row 2 3rd from left too
	📉 11:19pm chresti: great link coel!
	📉 11:20pm chresti: made it without a glitch in the stream!
	11:20pm northguineahills: @Dean: Have you've seen "New" antique stores on this side of the border, and 'reality' shows that put a spotlight on said industry? Yes, they do exist in Mx. (sorry, I became a hoser realizing I have not spider 45 nuggets).
	11:21pm northguineahills: I no longer have spider 45 nuggets....
	📉 11:22pm chresti: thrift store is where my parents got their record players and tvs
	11:22pm Dean: @ngh: I think I know what you're talking about -- the "roadshow" shows? Or maybe the auctions of warehoused stuff? I don't watch TV, but I see it when I visit my mom. I was only joking, anyway. The notion of "old antique" versus "new antique" kinda tickled me!
	📉 11:23pm chresti: there's a big return
	11:30pm coelacanth∅: i wish i could find a picture of the player we had. it did have that burgundy covering and the turntable parts looked like that but it might have folded down once the speakers were unlatched...or something. it had 4 speeds & sounded great but years later i was to figure out that one channel was coming through both speakers - whicvh probably was a simle loose wire in the cartridge or something. - i never knew 2000 light years from home and she's a rainbow had lead vocals for years!
	11:33pm Little Danny: OMG I turn my back for a coupla minutes and I have no idea what y'all are talmbout. Now furiously reading backwards
	11:34pm Scraps: Yes! Our turntable had 4 speeds too: 16 (I think) was the slooooooooowest speed.
	11:35pm Little Danny: 16RPM can be a lotta fun
	11:36pm northguineahills: @Dean: Many antique boutiques, in Brooklyn (and even here) are recent development. I chortled at your original message. The ones in Mexico were run by lonely septuagenarians, and the spaces, that old. Also scored some really old instruments (which I have somehow destroyed live, in the last few years, [not on purpose])
	11:36pm Scraps: I never found out what things that was meant to be played at 16 — but I had fun playing 45 & 78s at 16
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: Danny you can skip my posts -just so much babble about my first record player
	11:37pm Scraps: As Danny said. Fun.
	11:37pm northguineahills: I have turntables w/ 4 speeds, 8% and 50% speed range, and play backwards (they're not technics 1200)
	11:38pm northguineahills: I can't believe that was Yusef Lateef!
	11:38pm Dean: Ah, me. What now qualifies as antique are objects I handled in my youth. I suppose we will always have antiques with us.
	11:38pm doctorjazz: Don't believe anything was meant to be played at 16 RPM. It does help aspiring musicians pick out fast musical lines.
	11:38pm coelacanth∅: Scraps i have read that some spoken word records were 16 rpm; but i really think i remember some old classical records of my parents' being 16.
	11:39pm Dean: http://www.16rpm.com/
	11:40pm Little Danny: 78s played at 16rpm can get very trippy. Especially Hawaiian records and bluegrass breakdowns
	11:40pm doctorjazz: That's the line of "Bebop", no?
	11:41pm Scraps: yeah, someone said spoken word for 16, but I never ran into any. I looked, too. But way before the internet, ebay, etc!
	11:41pm northguineahills: I have some 16.5 rpm recs (well 4). Dean: True, Even stuff from the mid 90s would be considered antiques by some.
	11:42pm coelacanth∅: and yes Fun! i loved "meet the beatles" at age 4 (?) and the first 45 i ever bought was "yesterday" b/w "act naturally" for 10¢ at a yard sale. i hated it of course but yesterday @78rpm was pretty funny, as was act naturally @ 16!
	11:42pm Dean: JJ Johnson: https://www.discogs.com/Jay-Jay-Johnson-Kai-Winding-Bennie-Green-Trombone-By-Three/release/4536052
	11:44pm Dean: According to Discogs that^ record's cover is by Warhol!
	11:44pm northguineahills: Playing Loveless at 16.5 rpm sounds like the darkest black drone metal sound you've ever heard. It's like La Monte Young, took some barbiturates, and decided to try his hand at drone metal w/ Marian Zazeela doing vocals (I do that on the turntables a lot.).
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Dean
	11:47pm Little Danny: awesome, ngh
	📉 11:47pm chresti: hearing something at a different speed is always funny! Like making fart sounds when someone's speaking at a podium
	11:48pm northguineahills: what coel said....
	11:48pm Scraps: Warhol did a lot of album covers: rateyourmusic.com...
	11:48pm Little Danny: I'll have to listen again doc, for some reason I was thinking "Manteca"
	11:49pm doctorjazz: That's amazing, never saw a 16 RPM record assumed it was for slowing down the music (did you see the price of the JJ Johnson 18 RPM disc? )
	📉 11:49pm chresti: thanks Danny and everybody!
	11:49pm Dean: That is eye-opening, Scraps! Thank you. Horowitz, Rossini, Prokofiev, Basie...good lord.
	11:49pm Little Danny: Some of those Warhol covers are worth big $$$, too!
	11:50pm coelacanth∅: haha chresti...you're so immature!
	11:50pm Little Danny: worth should be in quotes, of course
	11:50pm Dean: A piddling $2300!
	11:50pm coelacanth∅: (kidding!)
	📉 11:51pm chresti: wow! He had a good gig! in the 40s! thanks scraps!
	11:52pm doctorjazz: Almost midnight , went really fast, thanks, Danny
	11:52pm Dean: Man, why'd he sell out to Campbell's?
	11:52pm coelacanth∅: first time i met a girlfriend's parents first i got a huge yellowjacket stuck under my foot in a sandle while walking to the house; then we're sitting at the table with her parents and she starts making fart noises! i lost it and couldn't regain composure.
	11:53pm Dean: Farts and Yellowjackets, the great yet unreleased Joni Mitchell album.
	11:53pm Scraps: !
	11:54pm Little Danny: Haha coel! The best
	11:54pm northguineahills: I was thinking Manteca as well....
	📉 11:54pm chresti: ha ha coel!
	11:54pm coelacanth∅: the buzzing and unidentified farting sounds of summer lawns
	📉 11:55pm JtotheK: Paul Anka 'The Painter' ... hmmm, I could pick that up and brag about my 'Warhol collection'.
	11:55pm northguineahills: If I don't get back, thanks LD!
	📉 11:55pm JtotheK: b/w plus I like spinning Paul Anka northern soul 45s, so...
	11:56pm doctorjazz: Gonna be sorry in the morning...
	📉 11:57pm JtotheK: And I think those Kenny Burrell lp's with Warhol art were reissued by Blue Note...and are less than 2K.
	📉 11:57pm JtotheK: thanks Danny! cheers everyone.
	12:00am coelacanth∅: Thanks Danny - no hitches no glitches! 'night everyone
	📉 12:02am chresti: good..burrrp! night!
	12:04am Little Danny: Thank you thank you thank you errbody! Much love, and see y'all around!

The Cool Blue Flame with Little Danny: Playlist from October 18, 2018

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October 18, 2018: Singles Going Steady: Latin jazz obscura & deep mambo moods

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Lou Perez	Fire Island (Afro-mambo)	7" 45	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Roberto and His Latin Aces	Bori Boro Re	7" 45	0:06:15 (Pop-up)
Eddie Palmieri	Revolt La Libertad Logico	7" 45	0:09:10 (Pop-up)
Pete Rodriguez	Guagaloo "Guagaloo" by "Pete Rodriguez"	7" 45	0:13:11 (Pop-up)
Jorge Pardo	C-7 Mambo "C-7 Mambo" by "Jorge Pardo"	7" 45	0:16:23 (Pop-up)
El Combo New York	Cool "Cool" by "El Combo New York"	7" 45	0:18:08 (Pop-up)
Duke Groner	Oppin' for Later "Oppin' for Later" by "Duke Groner"	7" 45	0:20:43 (Pop-up)
Tito Rodriguez And His Orchestra	Mambo Gee-Gee	7" 45	0:23:09 (Pop-up)
Tito Puente and His Orchestra	Ran-Kan-Kan	7" 45	0:25:38 (Pop-up)
Willie Colon	The Hustler "The Hustler" by "Willie Colon"	7" 45	0:28:13 (Pop-up)
Walfredo Reyes and His Band	Sun Sun Babae	7" 45	0:31:28 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ:	welcome to the club "welcome to the club"		0:34:16 (Pop-up)
Ricardo Lewis & Orchestra	Cha-Cha Baby	7" 45	0:47:33 (Pop-up)
Tony Chavez Septet	Chickie's Choice	7" 45	0:49:54 (Pop-up)
Freddie McCoy	Spider Man "Spider Man" by "Freddie McCoy"	7" 45	0:53:00 (Pop-up)
Pepe Fernandez and His Afro-Cubans	G.I. Rhapsody	7" 45	0:55:53 (Pop-up)
The Dizzy Gillespie Sextet	Rumbola	7" 45	0:58:13 (Pop-up)
Johnny "Chano" Martinez y su Orquesta	Tin Marin	7" 45	1:01:39 (Pop-up)
Chico	Chico's Song "Chico's Song" by "Chico"	7" 45	1:05:17 (Pop-up)
Pucho	Vietnam Mambo "Vietnam Mambo" by "Pucho"	7" 45	1:09:50 (Pop-up)
The Gilberto Sextet	Exotico (Exotic)	7" 45	1:13:13 (Pop-up)
Cal Tjader Mambo Quintet	Lucero "Lucero" by "Cal Tjader Mambo Quintet"	7" 45	1:15:52 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ:	the wide open "the wide open"		1:18:55 (Pop-up)
Emilio Reyes and Orch.	Cafe "Cafe" by "Emilio Reyes and Orch."	7" 45	1:31:42 (Pop-up)
Yusef Lateef	Cookin' "Cookin'" by "Yusef Lateef"	7" 45	1:33:47 (Pop-up)
Carlos Cortez and His Rhythm Kings	Rose of Tangier	7" 45	1:35:38 (Pop-up)
Julio Gutierrez and his Orchestra	Yambambe	7" 45	1:39:12 (Pop-up)
Brown Sugar	Batakum "Batakum" by "Brown Sugar"	7" 45	1:41:54 (Pop-up)
Luis Varona & Orchestra	Que Dichosa Es	7" 45	1:44:45 (Pop-up)
Billy Taylor	Early Morning Mambo "Early Morning Mambo" by "Billy Taylor"	Mambos EP	1:48:02 (Pop-up)
Roscoe Weathers	Penny Whistle Montuna	7" 45	1:50:55 (Pop-up)
Joe Roland Quintet	Lover's Mambo "Lover's Mambo" by "Joe Roland Quintet"	7" 45	1:53:01 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ:	isle of somewhere "isle of somewhere"		1:55:54 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:01pm Little Danny: My friends!
	10:01pm coelacanth∅: hello again!
	📉 10:01pm chresti: Stream-0-go Round! Hi again!
	10:02pm coelacanth∅: uh oh not hearing fire island
	10:02pm melinda: Now we move to the room next door...
	10:03pm Flash Strap: Hiya Danny and all! yeah not hearing Fire Island yet
	10:04pm Flash Strap: ah yes yes YES
	10:04pm coelacanth∅: this sounds like afro-mambo!
	10:05pm Little Danny: Thanks all. Raising my tumbler to a gremlin-free show
	10:06pm coelacanth∅: cheers! (pineapple juice... i'm abstaining from alcohol for a while)
	10:07pm doctorjazz: Made it home! Sounding good, Danny!
	10:07pm Little Danny: This Roberto/Latin Aces gets real interesting in a sec
	📉 10:08pm chresti: salude! I raise my cuppa tea! I am a bit woozy from kombucha, though
	10:08pm Flash Strap: god this is amazing man
	10:09pm Kris Holmes: Gnarly guitar sounds
	10:09pm doctorjazz: Good vibes all around!
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: yeah those gits!
	10:11pm Little Danny: Thanks all! Gonna be scrambling around with the 45s for a bit until I get my bearings, so excuse my scarceness for a coupla minutes. I don't know how Kris Holmes does it...
	10:11pm Kris Holmes: I’ve been on a Palmieri kick lately
	10:13pm Kris Holmes: Don’t know how people do LPs to be honest, inners, outer, jackets everywhere, so bulky
	📉 10:14pm chresti: a spindle? is that what's on a a record changer ?
	10:17pm Little Danny: I think so chresti. Or the little pole that sticks up outta the turntable platter
	📉 10:18pm chresti: there you have it!
	10:19pm coelacanth∅: hahaha! the little pole is a spindle, so what's a 7" (big hole) adapter for the turntable called?
	10:20pm coelacanth∅: (besides an adapter...that's boring)
	📉 10:22pm chresti: that's something franco might know-
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: anyway i remember when i was little the only adapters available were metal and it took some finesse to lock them into the 45s. i broke at least one 45 in half and i know my siblings broke some too.
	📉 10:24pm chresti: he told me once, and I laughed and laughed-can't remember what it was
	10:25pm coelacanth∅: then the yellow plastic ones came along but they fell out a lot. i had to splurge with lawn-raking money to get the one that goes on the turntable.
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: chresti if he makes up a new name for it i'm fine with that!
	10:26pm doctorjazz: I had the little yellow plastic ones with the curved arms, still have plastic domed ones. Never heard them called anything but 45 4pm adaptors
	📉 10:26pm chresti: the hifi had a large metal column attachment for 45s
	10:27pm Dean: I have a plastic domed Todd Rundgren & Utopia 45 adapter, Think I grabbed it at Tower Records ages ago.
	10:29pm Kris Holmes: Donut holes
	10:29pm doctorjazz: My parents Home Entertainment Unit had a rectangular attachment you put on the spindle and it let you put on many 45's to play one after another.
	📉 10:29pm chresti: That's it! HAHAHA!
	📉 10:30pm chresti: Donut holes!
	10:30pm Little Danny: These are the best comments. Seriously. SPINDLE TALK
	10:31pm coelacanth∅: chresti i remember seeing those but my father never had one - which is crazy because my parents went on a 45 kick and had at least 75-150 little records with big holes. when i got a new stereo at age 12? (total shit. i wish i'd kept my c.1960? rca portable stereo but i gave it to a friend) it came with a plastic record changer adapter for 45s but it never worked right.
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: obviously Kris knew!
	📉 10:34pm chresti: My parents didn't play 45s, our babysitter did, then my brother, when he started getting records
	📉 10:35pm chresti: thanks Kris!
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: child me just didn't get those metal adapters. the way i saw it they were permanent. too much effort and risk to be switching from record to record. but buying one for every 45? crazy talk! i have maybe 500 45s i can't imagine Kris you must have 15000.
	10:37pm Kris Holmes: I had a 70s console hi fi with a record stacker as my main bedroom turntable from the time I was 10 through until I left home to go to college. It actually had a changeable spindle where you could fit the changer spindle or the regular spindle. In NZ everything was small hole!
	10:40pm Kris Holmes: Only 7500
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: right when i bought my first turntable it came with a spindle + a record changer. by then i knew that stacking my records would ruin them. the turntable/amp that i got for xmas when i was 12 had an unremovable changer and i hated it to the point that i ripped the changing devise out of the spindle with a plyer!
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: 7500 is a lot but still i'm surprised!
	10:43pm northguineahills: arrived in a biomere self-contained cocoon!
	📉 10:43pm chresti: My first personal record player was a little plastic one- I think I was 11 We got a portable stereo after we moved to California
	10:48pm northguineahills: When I was four, a great uncle gave me a mickey mouse 45 player, and a bunch of early 60s 45s. I loved it, but it would be another 12 years before I got the music bug.
	10:48pm Dean: I have measured out my life with stereo gear. -- J. Alfred Audiophile
	10:49pm doctorjazz: Love this Cha Cha Baby, baby!
	10:51pm Little Danny: Of course you do, doc! Lotsa vibes ahead
	10:55pm doctorjazz: Hot stuff!
	10:56pm Scraps: A yellow (typically) 45 adapter is a spider.
	10:57pm mauri: takes me away to a warm dream island. hey danny and everyone.
	10:58pm Scraps: signed, Copy Editor
	10:59pm Little Danny: Hey mauri! I'm glad!
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: this looks kind of like "the kids' record player" which became mine gradually because i was the only one who used it. i.etsystatic.com... - except it was supposed to be stereo and had a speaker fold out from each side.
	10:59pm Little Danny: Hi scraps!
	10:59pm Little Danny: @doc: y'know this Dizzy? It's a deepie
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: pretty sure it had tubes. i remember glowing orangeness through the vent grate.
	11:00pm Little Danny: Young Hank Mobley on saxamaphone here
	11:01pm doctorjazz: I wasn't looking at the playlist, but it had that Diz tone, really like this one (and hadn't heard it . Cool!
	11:02pm doctorjazz: Dig those Dizzisms!
	11:06pm Scraps: Wikipedia on the spider (with picture, a yellow spider: The former RCA Corporation introduced a snap-in plastic insert known as a spider [1] to make 45 rpm records compatible with the smaller spindle size of a 33⅓ rpm LP record player. Commissioned by RCA president David Sarnoff and invented by Thomas Hutchison, spiders were prevalent in the 1960s and sold tens of millions per year. The Hutchison adapter included small bumps called "drive pins," which locked the adapters together while revolving, thus preventing the stacked records from slipping against each other. Several manufacturers made "spider" adapters in slightly varying shapes and many different colors, though yellow and red were most frequently used.
	11:08pm Scraps: (red?)
	11:08pm northguineahills: @Scraps, I used to have quite a few, but the last one broke last winter. I actually have more Latin 78s then 45s (I got lucky at some old antique stores in Mexico).
	📉 11:09pm JtotheK: hi!
	11:11pm Little Danny: Jason! Hello!
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: Scraps i do fuzzily recall them being called that
	11:12pm Dean: @northguineahills: I envy your take, but I wonder: Are there new antique stores in Mexico?
	11:14pm doctorjazz: I only buy new antiques!
	11:14pm Scraps: I only ran into the Spider name when I was a 45 buyer for the record store I worked at, and I also bought accessories
	11:15pm coelacanth∅: there were all these variations c1.staticflickr.com... (like that triangle topleft that obviously will fail) but i only ever saw the row 2, 3rd from left -which i could see calling a spider; though really 3/8 of a spider!
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: (the far right, 2nd from bottom were the ones we had when i was little)
	📉 11:16pm chresti: That's like a Califone-or a classroom record player-great
	📉 11:16pm chresti: spider donut!
	11:18pm northguineahills: Found one! but it's NYC, as the missus has a 45 player. Back to the interwebs!
	11:18pm Scraps: I saw row 1 4th from left (black), but otherwise I only saw row 2 3rd from left too
	📉 11:19pm chresti: great link coel!
	📉 11:20pm chresti: made it without a glitch in the stream!
	11:20pm northguineahills: @Dean: Have you've seen "New" antique stores on this side of the border, and 'reality' shows that put a spotlight on said industry? Yes, they do exist in Mx. (sorry, I became a hoser realizing I have not spider 45 nuggets).
	11:21pm northguineahills: I no longer have spider 45 nuggets....
	📉 11:22pm chresti: thrift store is where my parents got their record players and tvs
	11:22pm Dean: @ngh: I think I know what you're talking about -- the "roadshow" shows? Or maybe the auctions of warehoused stuff? I don't watch TV, but I see it when I visit my mom. I was only joking, anyway. The notion of "old antique" versus "new antique" kinda tickled me!
	📉 11:23pm chresti: there's a big return
	11:30pm coelacanth∅: i wish i could find a picture of the player we had. it did have that burgundy covering and the turntable parts looked like that but it might have folded down once the speakers were unlatched...or something. it had 4 speeds & sounded great but years later i was to figure out that one channel was coming through both speakers - whicvh probably was a simle loose wire in the cartridge or something. - i never knew 2000 light years from home and she's a rainbow had lead vocals for years!
	11:33pm Little Danny: OMG I turn my back for a coupla minutes and I have no idea what y'all are talmbout. Now furiously reading backwards
	11:34pm Scraps: Yes! Our turntable had 4 speeds too: 16 (I think) was the slooooooooowest speed.
	11:35pm Little Danny: 16RPM can be a lotta fun
	11:36pm northguineahills: @Dean: Many antique boutiques, in Brooklyn (and even here) are recent development. I chortled at your original message. The ones in Mexico were run by lonely septuagenarians, and the spaces, that old. Also scored some really old instruments (which I have somehow destroyed live, in the last few years, [not on purpose])
	11:36pm Scraps: I never found out what things that was meant to be played at 16 — but I had fun playing 45 & 78s at 16
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: Danny you can skip my posts -just so much babble about my first record player
	11:37pm Scraps: As Danny said. Fun.
	11:37pm northguineahills: I have turntables w/ 4 speeds, 8% and 50% speed range, and play backwards (they're not technics 1200)
	11:38pm northguineahills: I can't believe that was Yusef Lateef!
	11:38pm Dean: Ah, me. What now qualifies as antique are objects I handled in my youth. I suppose we will always have antiques with us.
	11:38pm doctorjazz: Don't believe anything was meant to be played at 16 RPM. It does help aspiring musicians pick out fast musical lines.
	11:38pm coelacanth∅: Scraps i have read that some spoken word records were 16 rpm; but i really think i remember some old classical records of my parents' being 16.
	11:39pm Dean: http://www.16rpm.com/
	11:40pm Little Danny: 78s played at 16rpm can get very trippy. Especially Hawaiian records and bluegrass breakdowns
	11:40pm doctorjazz: That's the line of "Bebop", no?
	11:41pm Scraps: yeah, someone said spoken word for 16, but I never ran into any. I looked, too. But way before the internet, ebay, etc!
	11:41pm northguineahills: I have some 16.5 rpm recs (well 4). Dean: True, Even stuff from the mid 90s would be considered antiques by some.
	11:42pm coelacanth∅: and yes Fun! i loved "meet the beatles" at age 4 (?) and the first 45 i ever bought was "yesterday" b/w "act naturally" for 10¢ at a yard sale. i hated it of course but yesterday @78rpm was pretty funny, as was act naturally @ 16!
	11:42pm Dean: JJ Johnson: https://www.discogs.com/Jay-Jay-Johnson-Kai-Winding-Bennie-Green-Trombone-By-Three/release/4536052
	11:44pm Dean: According to Discogs that^ record's cover is by Warhol!
	11:44pm northguineahills: Playing Loveless at 16.5 rpm sounds like the darkest black drone metal sound you've ever heard. It's like La Monte Young, took some barbiturates, and decided to try his hand at drone metal w/ Marian Zazeela doing vocals (I do that on the turntables a lot.).
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Dean
	11:47pm Little Danny: awesome, ngh
	📉 11:47pm chresti: hearing something at a different speed is always funny! Like making fart sounds when someone's speaking at a podium
	11:48pm northguineahills: what coel said....
	11:48pm Scraps: Warhol did a lot of album covers: rateyourmusic.com...
	11:48pm Little Danny: I'll have to listen again doc, for some reason I was thinking "Manteca"
	11:49pm doctorjazz: That's amazing, never saw a 16 RPM record assumed it was for slowing down the music (did you see the price of the JJ Johnson 18 RPM disc? )
	📉 11:49pm chresti: thanks Danny and everybody!
	11:49pm Dean: That is eye-opening, Scraps! Thank you. Horowitz, Rossini, Prokofiev, Basie...good lord.
	11:49pm Little Danny: Some of those Warhol covers are worth big $$$, too!
	11:50pm coelacanth∅: haha chresti...you're so immature!
	11:50pm Little Danny: worth should be in quotes, of course
	11:50pm Dean: A piddling $2300!
	11:50pm coelacanth∅: (kidding!)
	📉 11:51pm chresti: wow! He had a good gig! in the 40s! thanks scraps!
	11:52pm doctorjazz: Almost midnight , went really fast, thanks, Danny
	11:52pm Dean: Man, why'd he sell out to Campbell's?
	11:52pm coelacanth∅: first time i met a girlfriend's parents first i got a huge yellowjacket stuck under my foot in a sandle while walking to the house; then we're sitting at the table with her parents and she starts making fart noises! i lost it and couldn't regain composure.
	11:53pm Dean: Farts and Yellowjackets, the great yet unreleased Joni Mitchell album.
	11:53pm Scraps: !
	11:54pm Little Danny: Haha coel! The best
	11:54pm northguineahills: I was thinking Manteca as well....
	📉 11:54pm chresti: ha ha coel!
	11:54pm coelacanth∅: the buzzing and unidentified farting sounds of summer lawns
	📉 11:55pm JtotheK: Paul Anka 'The Painter' ... hmmm, I could pick that up and brag about my 'Warhol collection'.
	11:55pm northguineahills: If I don't get back, thanks LD!
	📉 11:55pm JtotheK: b/w plus I like spinning Paul Anka northern soul 45s, so...
	11:56pm doctorjazz: Gonna be sorry in the morning...
	📉 11:57pm JtotheK: And I think those Kenny Burrell lp's with Warhol art were reissued by Blue Note...and are less than 2K.
	📉 11:57pm JtotheK: thanks Danny! cheers everyone.
	12:00am coelacanth∅: Thanks Danny - no hitches no glitches! 'night everyone
	📉 12:02am chresti: good..burrrp! night!
	12:04am Little Danny: Thank you thank you thank you errbody! Much love, and see y'all around!

The Cool Blue Flame with Little Danny: Playlist from October 18, 2018

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