WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from August 30, 2018

Listener comments!
	9:01am Adrian in London: Hello Trouble. Hello listeners. Can we have some music to calm me the hell down on manic press deadline, please?
	9:02am Rocky Horror: Hello Trouble
	9:02am northguineahills: the artwork, a nautical metaphor for my life (but I escape better then Jonah).
	9:03am D. Lightfoot: Yes, Adrian said. Thursday is my day to get shit done and I need a playlist that make me feel like I'm somebody else—somebody calm, patient and competent.
	9:03am Guido from Cologne: Hello Trouble! Do sharks enjoy teapots?
	9:04am D. Lightfoot: It's a teapot full of chum
	9:04am kevlicki: Good morning trouble!
	9:04am Ken From Hyde Park: Alright, here we go. Who's looking for Trouble?
	9:05am Trouble: hola mes amigos! happy to be here, happy to have you here. @adrian: coming right up
	9:05am D. Lightfoot: this is lovely
	9:05am Linda Lee: good morning Trouble! thanks so much for gentle music to start.
	9:05am queems: so pretty
	9:06am Linda Lee: sitting right here where the juniper grows. do need to install a wood stove for the winter!
	9:07am Linda Lee: here comes poor colleen & her wooden leg.
	9:08am kevlicki: Wish the Courtney Hartman I went to high school with was a singer songwriter. That was pleasant!
	9:09am Linda Lee: you're sure she's not, kevlicki?
	9:10am Linda Lee: wait ... isn't there a tempest in that teapot?
	9:11am melinda: morning!
	9:12am sphere: hello peops
	9:14am Webhamster Henry: Good Morning, Modern World!
	9:15am Webhamster Henry: A bit on the bleepy - blorpy - tinkly side this morning!
	9:16am D. Lightfoot: Incidental music to a late 70s Barbarella-type soft-porn space opera.
	9:17am Simon from England: Nice! I like this cloud seeder tune.
	9:18am sphere: Only the French could have turned science fiction into sexytime.
	9:18am melinda: I like the blorpy tinkly
	9:18am Colin and Danie in Durham, England: Morning x
	9:19am Tiago from Portugal: Hello Trouble, hello world, hello shark!
	9:20am northguineahills: couldn't have said it better, melinda.....
	9:21am Scraps: h’lo hey
	9:22am still b/p: Quint: "You know the thing about a shark....he's got long whiskers....delicate whiskers. Like a leopard's whiskers."
	9:23am Ken From Hyde Park: Sharky's trying to disguise itself as a feline.
	9:25am Asheville Jon: this cloud seeder is really trippy in a good way, especially after downing several cups of coffee and mentally speeding. weirdness
	9:26am Itzall Ablurr: sphere, "the Italians" did it pretty bella too!
	9:30am JakeGould: Hello Trouble!
	9:31am northguineahills: Digging this bed record!
	9:32am Webhamster Henry: I have an "English phrases for foreign speakers" record around here some where - the speaker has a pronounced Maine accent.
	9:32am northguineahills: @Itzall Ablurr: See the Rec label, "Italians do it Better".
	9:33am melinda: @Henry that's funny
	9:34am northguineahills: Humid FL. wearing pants and long sleeves, as my meds make me cold (thank chthulhu!)
	9:35am dfb: the heat broke here today, i just watered the garden on the rooftop, beautiful up there. nice to be listening here too, morning trouble
	9:35am bore: Happy Birthday Alice Coltrane! I agree, she is a gem.
	9:35am northguineahills: Alice?!!!! w/ the Pharoah!!!!
	9:37am JakeGould: Oh joy! The subway was humid, the walk was humid and then I get to work and find out there is a brown out and the elevators are out and I have to climb 10 flights in a humid, dank stairwell. BUT I AM NOT COMPLAINING!
	9:37am Lewis: the nice thing about the comments board is that you can sort of half listen for a while and then something clicks and you can catch up...
	9:38am northguineahills: pre-clickied! forgot Pharoah wasn't on this.....
	9:40am steveo: is that in manhattan jake?
	9:40am Webhamster Henry: It's my birthday too! And R. Crumb's! An Alice Coltrane cut from last year's Turiyasangitananda album would be nice!
	9:42am Itzall Ablurr: northguineahillz, thanks for the tip- because that looks like a potential income drain, in a good way!
	9:43am Itzall Ablurr: Sort of like this show- every time a star gets clicked, a record company gets their wings... I mean my money.
	9:43am sphere: Alice Coltrane is still underrated as an instrumentalist.
	9:43am JakeGould: @SteveO: Yes, it’s not the Bronx of Staten!
	9:44am JakeGould: @ItzallAblurr: Oh please, give those record companies their money. They are so cash poor!
	9:46am steveo: Yes, happy birthday to the always captivating Alice Coltrane & good morning, Trouble. @Jake OK! Happy to report our elevators are working in Hell's Kitchen. Maybe you can take a fire pole to lunch?
	9:46am Itzall Ablurr: Jake, I do, I do. And I like to think that maybe just maybe some of that dough helps keep the band in ramen.
	9:48am JakeGould: @Itzall: I was once on Twitter joking with Arrington De Dionyso about how bad the royalty system is. He mentioned some hilariously typical $1 and change royalty check he received. I joked you could probably just walk around your neighborhood and find money money that way. The next day I found $2 on the street. I MADE MORE MONEY THAN A WORKING MUSICIAN THAT DAY!!!
	9:51am fred: Hello Trouble and all. And happy birthday Henry!
	9:52am Webhamster Henry: @JakeGould indeed, but busking is sometimes pretty lucrative too! Read my favorite Sherlock Holmes story: The Man With The Twisted Lip!
	9:54am Itzall Ablurr: Haha. Funny/Sad, right? I'm sure you've heard about the zillionth-of-a-penny type royalties they "earn" for use online too. Still I buy the records and even CDs (I know, so not hip).
	9:54am sphere: @ Henry that's a good Holmes story!
	9:54am Trouble: happy birthday webmaster!
	9:54am longrally: Alice is the bees knees! So good.
	9:55am meredith: Wondering if you saw this @Trouble www.nytimes.com...
	9:55am sphere: @Itzall I am totally pro-CD. They sound just as good as vinyl, are more durable than vinyl, and are rippable to boot.
	9:56am fred: Yeah, a friend once showed me the pages of the detailed royalties statement he got from iTunes, for a total failing to reach €2. Bandcamp pays much better
	9:57am JakeGould: @Itzall: Oh yeah, Spotify is a joke. Bandcamp is really the great hope for indie artists and others.
	9:58am melinda: Happy birthday Henry!
	10:00am Chris from DC: Ditto on Bandcamp.
	10:01am JakeGould: Happy B-Day Webhmaster!
	10:01am sphere: Agreed. Bandcamp is the best deal for fans and artists. (happy birthday Henry!)
	10:02am JakeGould: Also, two kids were tap dancing on my subway car a few weeks ago and I gave them $5. That is the most I have ever given towards the art of tap dancing.
	10:03am Roberto: Lol I know which school you're talking about!
	10:07am Trouble: o you do! @roberto!
	10:07am Roberto: Mm hmmmm
	10:11am Mick: Happy Birthday Alice, Michael, and Henry!
	10:12am Webhamster Henry: Thanks Modernaires!
	10:13am fred: @JakeGould: I tend to consider tap dancing as closer to music than dance, but I'm a dance snob
	10:14am Webhamster Henry: You can check one of my bands' Bandcamp sites here: mamalama.bandcamp.com We did a show in the Widow Jane Mine last Saturday.
	10:16am frenchee: ah Alice....a little prayer to ease into the work day.
	10:18am fred: @Henry: nice! didn't you have another literally underground show last year?
	10:20am melinda: Tap dancing is hard. I quit after a few lessons, but it didn't help that the classes were held in a hot stuffy room on the top floor of an old recreation center building.
	10:21am Kiss Grits: This A Bernstein thing is really doing it for me right now thank you
	10:22am steveo: @grits same
	10:26am Webhamster Henry: @fred We did! The band is different now though! Full disclosure, I'm the president of the Board of the not-for-profit that runs the Widow Jane Mine, and both of the bands I'm in played benefits in there! People - come on up for the Subterranean Poetry Festival Sept 8th! centuryhouse.org
	10:29am steveo: trumpet solo=clicky star
	10:30am meredith: I just found out it is also Robert Crumb's birthday today!!! <3
	10:31am Linda Lee: sahara all stars = a beautiful groove. Brava Trouble!!
	10:32am steveo: and webhamster henry's :)
	10:33am Itzall Ablurr: meredith, he (Crumb) is one of the world's greatest living artists in my opinion. Some of his "serious" figure studies really show his genius. And, of course Mr. Natural.
	10:34am blee: So damn funky. Yes!
	10:34am Mick: This sahara all stars is downright dangerous. And happy birthday to r. crumb too!
	10:34am jmr3: Darn these playlists. If this were a "regular" radio station I wouldn't know that I'd missed a whole bunch of Alice Coltrane. Of course if it were a "regular" radio station you wouldn't have played her in the first place. ...
	10:35am northguineahills: @steveo: until I do a trumpet solo....;p
	10:36am meredith: YES! @Itzall! He was prolific
	10:36am JakeGould: Robert Crumb has some art skills, but I find him to be vile on more than a few levels. That is all.
	10:36am sphere: woot! never heard the original It Takes Two.
	10:36am Itzall Ablurr: (pssst- he's still alive)
	10:37am meredith: @JakeGould I agree on some of that too. I like the complicated aspect of his art. Certainly not for everyone! @Itzall OOPS typo :)
	10:37am sphere: oops - not the original. too quick on the keyboard, im afraid. :)
	10:39am Itzall Ablurr: "some art skills". Riiiight.
	10:40am Hugh: Rob Base! The sound of summer 1988? I think that was one of the first tracks to set off the first sampling lawsuits when they didn't pay James Brown and company for that one.
	10:40am Itzall Ablurr: That Picasso, he was a freak but I guess he was a decent enough draftsman?
	10:40am steveo: @ngh I've also heard some very good "non-traditional" trumpet solos, maybe you could go for that
	10:41am The Oscar: At every single birthday and Christmas from when I was 10 to when I was 17, one grown relative or another would pull me aside to inform me that they almost got me some R. Crumb thing or another, but then decided that would be inappropriate. As a result, R. Crumb became sort of a mythical figure for me growing up.
	10:42am JakeGould: If Robert Crumb is reading this, please give money to the station here: pledge.wfmu.org Also, Picasso, Miro, and tons of others are better artists than Robert Crumb. His main level of fame comes from applying that level of skill to comics. Past that, I’m not the only one who doesn’t worship at his inkwell. Moebius (Jean Giraud) is amazing but nobody has made him some art diety.
	10:43am melinda: I felt sort of creeped out and conflicted after watching Crumb (the film). It would be interesting to re-watch.
	10:44am meredith: @melinda I had the same reaction! But for some reason, I enjoy conflict with my art. Not all the time, but often.
	10:47am The Oscar: I'm not sure I've ever heard a bad song about hamburgers.
	10:47am JakeGould: Sorry to sound like a snob, but at a certain point in my life I held onto the (misbegotten) idea that museums and “high art” were snotty and bad and somehow the world of hipster “comix” was more real. Once I got past prejudices others put in my head, I realized in the great scheme of things there are tons of other artists I was never exposed to that are as good or better than “underground” crap. And yes, there are definitely some great comic artists out there. No doubt. But I’m personally tired of the incredible self-importance of that world.
	10:47am JakeGould: @TheOscar: What about that disco hit, “Hamburgers (For Nazis)?”
	10:48am melinda: @meredith I'm better with that conflict than I was back then, that's why I might watch it again. Also, his brother was the creepiest in that film. It's a great study of family weirdness.
	10:49am JakeGould: @melinda: The whole Crumb family is a creep-fest.
	10:50am fred: @JakeGould: Moebius is pretty much an art deity in France
	10:51am Mick: I just learned that Paul Taylor passed. Speaking of near-deities.
	10:52am melinda: I don't see the comics world as being more self-important than the "high art" world at all, it's just expanded and received more attention in the last 20 years or so, which it deserves.
	10:52am Lewis: does MacDonalds count "hamburgers served" or calculate it?... counting into the billions is not easy...
	10:53am northguineahills: @steveo:I used to play a cornet in a water vat w/ a contact mic above the water line, and my band mate would manipulate it w/ ableton live.
	10:53am Webhamster Henry: Jesse Crumb died recently (R's older son). And indeed, Moebius is an art deity in France. Trolling around the internet looking for drawings reveals there are a great number of fantastic artists out there - I say, this is not horse race. Crumb talked records with DJ Mac a few years ago: wfmu.org...
	10:53am Lewis: and does a Big Mac count as 2...
	10:54am JakeGould: @Lewis: I think they stopped attempting exact numbers sometime in the 1980s, right? Yes! I am right! “The number continued to rise: 5 billion in 1969, 15 billion in 1974, 30 billion in 1979, and 45 billion in 1983. After that, the company simply began adding 5 billion to the number every year, topping out at 99 billion in 1993. Sometime after that, the signs were updated to “BILLIONS AND BILLIONS SERVED,” and they haven’t changed since.” www.thedailymeal.com...
	10:55am Lewis: Thanks! @JakeGould!
	10:55am melinda: @Henry there is a Youtube vid of them chatting, as well. If I remember correctly Crumb is sitting in one of those giant hand chairs.
	10:56am The Oscar: Back in the '90s one of the Ninja Turtles guys opened a whole museum of comic book art out in Northampton, MA, with original art going back to Jack Kirby and the like. It only lasted a few years, but it was one of my favorite places as a kid. I fondly remember going to a signing by Jeff Smith (Bone), and got an original sketch which is on my wall to this day.
	10:56am Ken From Hyde Park: Jeff Bezos is worth a lot of burgers, it seems.
	10:56am JakeGould: @melinda: Well, let me be fair and say there is some sort of halo of noble martyrism mentality that pervades some parts of the world of DIY culture that I am completely over.
	10:57am Webhamster Henry: @melinda which is part of the playlist link I posted!
	10:57am Trouble: www.nytimes.com...
	10:57am Itzall Ablurr: "To generalize is to be an idiot" ~William Blake (the poet not the cop with a bird)
	10:58am melinda: @Jake I get that part. @Henry cool! I scanned quickly and didn't see the link.
	10:58am JakeGould: @TheOscar: That sounds cool! But I will assure you in NYC indie scenes, dumpling on any mainstream artist is openly acceptable and stupid.
	10:58am the illuminated void: tiger tiger burning bright
	10:59am Itzall Ablurr: A favorite.
	10:59am the illuminated void: !
	11:00am Trouble: interesting, but not surprising: www.bustle.com...
	11:00am JakeGould: When Charles Schultz died (for example) there were a lot of indie comic artist who said essentially, “I always thought he was some mainstream jerk, but now I realize how great he was…” The world of indie art is filled with that kinda knee-jerk contrarianism.
	11:01am the illuminated void: maybe there are a lot more well nown men writers more men writers also
	11:02am the illuminated void: no doubt a bias..... for sure
	11:02am JakeGould: @Trouble: And the same holds true—even worse—in the world of indie comics. Why a boys club that world is! Lynda Barry has always been someone I respected since high school.
	11:03am Uncle Michael: I will always delurk and say 'yay!' for Gal Costa.
	11:03am Itzall Ablurr: Zora Neale Hurston Flannery O'Conner. Eudora Welty Carson McCullers... To name only a few.
	11:04am fred: Paul Taylor.... Not very interesting to me, but he did make some decent stuff. I guess I came too late to get his work. Too classical for me
	11:04am Fernando P: My everyday dose of Gal. Thanks Trouble!
	11:04am northguineahills: Badawi w/ Honeychild, she's a besty of mine! Gal Costa!
	11:05am steveo: @ngh see, I knew it :)
	11:05am coelacanth∅: what Uncle M said
	11:05am Trouble: recommends lots of female writers www.nytimes.com...
	11:05am Nate K: I think the Gal Costa and Gal LPs are some of my fave psych records possibly ever.
	11:06am Uncle Michael: What Nate said.
	11:07am melinda: @Jake I agree, Lynda B deserves more respect within that world.
	11:07am The Oscar: One of my favorite high school memories was when a teacher handed me a photocopy of Flannery O'Connor's "Good Country People" after class and said, "I think this will be right up your alley." She was right.
	11:10am Fernando P: That song about Brazil being a country blessed by god and beautiful by nature is all we can say positively about this place that is on a bottomless downward social and political crisis.
	11:10am Listener Gregory: Trouble, what is the name of that James Brown backup singer album? Or can you send me your extra copy?
	11:12am Rich in Washington: I just saw the news about Paul Taylor on my twitter feed as you said his name.
	11:12am bryguy: I thought the MJ record skipping was a weird little intro section and I loved it haha
	11:12am northguineahills: @The Oscar: Dig!
	11:13am melinda: It's an experiment that could never be conducted but I wonder how people would feel about the books they read, what they would choose and recommend if all authors' name were gender-neutral.
	11:15am northguineahills: Shirley!!!!!!!!!!
	11:15am karlward: Did someone say indie comics? Check out traced.com ! Guaranteed 95% true. I took a great class taught by Tracy White a few years ago, so good.
	11:15am coelacanth∅: melinda i'm positive that would not effect my decisions.
	11:17am JakeGould: @melinda: Sad reality is J.K. Rowling’s published author name uses initials because a female name on books is perceived to not be a good thing. Sad and kinda pathetic if you think about how of all the forms of published media don’t go out of the way to mask a creator’s name… Except for the oldest form of published media.
	11:18am Trouble: i wrote it in @listener gregory
	11:19am Webhamster Henry: I'm a fan of female penned indie comix, which has some of the best autobio stuff out there. Lynda Barry, Phoebe Gloeckner, Debbie Drescher, Leslie Sternbergh, Carol Lay, Julie Doucet, Mary Fleener, Krystine Kryttre, Alison Bechdel .. and that's just off the top of my head!
	11:21am Lewis: I would be remiss if I didn't plug my kid's efforts in this conversation: www.margins.press as indie as can be I believe...
	11:21am jmr3: Traden? is it Avant Ghetto time already?
	11:21am northguineahills: Considering my favorite author as a wee lad was Judy Blume, I never considered gender on which authors I'd read.
	11:22am fred: @melinda: I tend to prefer female writers. More relatable, though my favorite living writer is Colson Whitehead. As a fave WFMU T-shirt says, consistently inconsistent
	11:22am JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: Don’t forget Marjane Satrapi and Persepolis.
	11:23am Passaic River Blues: Wow, Groff provides a cavalcade of recommendations! One of the suggested authors, Marie-Claire Blais of Quebec, is definitely someone I should investigate further. I've only read one of her books, "Season in the Life of Emmanuel", and it was bleak as hell, my personal sweet spot. Also, really love her reinterpretation of Jean Craighead George and "My Side of the Mountain": "Over the decades since I first found the books to be rollicking adventure stories, they’ve become chilling horror stories of lonely children lost and desperate to survive in unforgiving wilderness." MSotM was probably my favorite book from childhood but, I suspect, something that would prove upon re-reading to be less an adventure tale than one of loneliness and alienation, which, again, is fine by me.
	11:23am melinda: @coel I don't know if it would affect mine. @Henry great list. The Twisted Sisters anthology was one of my first intros to indie comics. I recently read Mimi Pond's book The Customer is Always Right, another excellent one. Somewhat autobiographical.
	11:24am Trouble: kate beaton! read all of her crazy cartoons: priceless. a favorite in my house by all who read
	11:25am jmr3: Aline Kominsky Crumb has a new anthology of her work out, I believe.
	11:25am Trouble: @passaicriverblues: i also liked her take on my side of the mountain. and jane eyre!
	11:26am melinda: @ngh one of my favorites too! you are atypical in that regard, but most likely don't need me to point that out, haha
	11:26am JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: But on the topic of “Perseolis,” there is—at least I consider—the bizarre case of Craig Thompson’s “Habibi.” A Christian American white guy writes Middle Eastern “romance” comic… And it’s praised, but I find it’s mere existence tone deaf. But few people really take it to task for that.
	11:29am coelacanth∅: the books i read are more often than not recommendations from friends/friendly acquaintances. there are more males than females recommended, which might say something about the people in my more-"progressive"-than-average-in-gender-issues community; but more likely it's because i read mostly old books by dead authors.
	11:30am Listener Gregory: Belated thanks for the belated write-in, Trouble.
	11:31am melinda: Wait, The Mimi Pond book is called The Customer is Always WRONG (emphasis mine). I should know better, I work in retail.
	11:32am Devin B.: @Fred: I haven't kept up with Whitehead, but I loved The Intuitionist. I had a class with him years ago - he had us read Jimmy Corrigan the Smartest Kid on Earth, speaking of great comics art.
	11:32am fred: I'm finally reading Jane Eyre these days. And I'm having trouble getting through the halfway mark
	11:32am coelacanth∅: and, another great track by träden! (none of which i've heard on the avant ghetto)
	11:33am melinda: @coel there are so many factors affecting our choices of what to read.
	11:34am RENBO: Hey Trouble thx for the tip re: Father Ted last week--I'd lived in the UK as well as Eire, married and duly employed in local council offices, and consider myself, eventho now back in the US and divorced, still fully engaged in the UK/Eire maelstrom and hadn't seen Father Ted--very silly and fun to binge-watch! What was the other show you mentioned with that actor? I wasn't quick enough with the pen! PS Up here in Rockland County, as I read last labor day weekend was chaos and tourist cacophony, the control freaks up here-vis. the authorities-- are gonna rein the unruly fun-seeking maniacs right in so no queue-cutting this year !!
	11:34am Passaic River Blues: @Trouble: word up w/r/t Groff's take on Rochester and Eyre. It's something my sister has held for years. Years ago, when I saw the Welles/Fontaine movie, I remember thinking, "Jesus, Jane. I know it's Orson Welles and all, but you've got to get away from that bastard!" @Devin: post-Intuitionist Whitehead is all pretty good, most especially "Sag Harbor" and "The Underground Railroad".
	11:36am Devin B.: Thanks PRB. I remember liking but not finishing John Henry Days and then ... other interests gained ground
	11:36am fred: @Devin B: I have a WFMU T-shirt with Jimmy Corrigan on it! I struggled to get The Underground Railroad before heading into a month-long hospital stay, not his best though. Check out John Henry Days (no reference to birthday boy webhamster)
	11:36am coelacanth∅: right melinda. -and i only started reading fiction (or semi-fiction) withing the past 1/4 of my life so in the grand scheme of things i haven't read many books. i loved the first few books and decided to read all the books by those authors, all of which are male except Mary Shelley. but we're only talking about less than a dozen authors.
	11:37am Trouble: @passaicriverblues: as a teenager i thought the bronte etc crowd was super creepy with the female/male hierarchy. stayed away from it and read it as an adult, my teens self was right.
	11:37am JakeGould: @melinda (and others): Shana Cleveland of “La Luz” is a great artist. Some of her artist and musician portraits are here: crawdadcleveland.tumblr.com But she also has doodles she made when she was a barista of customer interactions. So good! snack-shack-phunnyz-blog.tumblr.com
	11:38am coelacanth∅: (less than a dozen that i want to read everything by, that is)
	11:38am Trouble: bookshop by penelope fitzgerald has been made into a movie! not sure how it will be, BUT it has bill nighy!! www.youtube.com...
	11:39am melinda: @Jake thanks for the links, good stuff!
	11:39am Listener Gregory: I'm not reading that many contemporary novels, but I've read two by Jennifer Egan and thought they were really good.
	11:40am Trouble: @renbo: death in paradise is the funny mystery thang that ardal o'hanlon is in, not as funny as father ted. but we watch it becasue we love silly
	11:41am adampsyche: <3 trouble's reggae sets
	11:42am Devin B.: Excited to read new books by Ottessa Moshfegh and Megan Boyle this fall
	11:42am Mick: Thanks for the links, Trouble. in the Lauren Groff article, @passaicriverblues, i also loved "Librarians and booksellers are quiet superheroes." And re. Welles/Fontaine Eyre: you read my mind...
	11:43am northguineahills: wow, holllie cook in dub!
	11:43am Lewis: The Skank Your Lucky Stars comp from Gaylord this year is a riot as so many track try and fail to get the rhythms right...
	11:44am Trouble: 'Manhattan beach' sucked me in and spit me out 3 days later. it was great fun!
	11:44am Listener Gregory: @Trouble, that's next on my list.
	11:45am RENBO: nice thx thx Speaking of old books by dead people :-) !! Finishing Mary Barton, about to start Willy O'Reilly and his Dear Cooleen Bawn, 1855, by William Carleton whoever that was bless him. I'd love a few recommendations from fellow listeners of the more obscurantist sleepers of this era--anybody?
	11:45am Lucky: Oh, yeah. I guess the Bookshop WILL be seen. That cast! Now I have to read the book!
	11:46am fred: @Gregory: Thanks for the rec
	11:46am northguineahills: @coel:90% of what I read is non-fiction, but I still find time for fiction occasionally (reading environmental academic papers at work now, (best day at work evar!!!)
	11:48am Passaic River Blues: @Mick: That is a great line re And I LOVE Orson Welles, but even he couldn't make Rochester more than a malignant blackhole of morbidity and self-pity. Still, now I want to watch "Othello" or "F Is for Fake".
	11:48am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Reading The Perfectionists now, it is a history of precision manufacturing, specifically all about precision, the first commercially viable precision lathe by Maudsley, etc. It is fun to geek out on this stuff for me as I am a mechanical engineer.
	11:49am melinda: Bill Nighy makes everything better
	11:49am Passaic River Blues: *That is a great line regarding librarians and booksellers.
	11:49am Adrian in London: Ooh, I just bought The Bookshop this week, because I remember you saying you liked her writing so I thought I'd give it a go. My wife has started it and likes it very much.
	11:51am christopher: Is that Green Day’s bassist?
	11:51am Trouble: everything that penelope fitzgerald wrote is fantabulous. only 8 short books...
	11:52am fred: @ngh: your work reading habits are way more healthy than mine. Anyone who knows the name Agner Fog has a problem
	11:52am Trouble: i loved mary barton!! such a contempo read for a woman who lived hundreds of years ago...
	11:53am jmr3: @Mick - thanks, I'm a librarian, listening at my desk
	11:54am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Trouble. Enjoy the long weekend. See you in September!
	11:54am northguineahills: @fred: It's been a while since I've done strictly C++. I mostly do Python these days, which is related I suppose.
	11:57am Trouble: thanks for listening! see you next week. stay cool-ish if at all possible...sigh
	11:57am fred: @ngh: Python is a return to Java hell. Arrogant assholes who just troll. Awful community, maybe not as bad as Java. Yet.
	11:57am Mick: @passaicriverblues - you and me both! But yeah, Rochester is tough to redeem - like Groff writes: he pretty much tortures both Jane and his wife. Othello is super interesting in its way, especially knowing the lengths they had to go to make it. You need to brace yourself for the blackface business, but amazing performances.
	11:58am coelacanth∅: ngh for me it was 100% either reference; zen philosophy; or history. now (as for books...the internet's another story) it's maybe 90% fiction, with the rest being music/musician history or "zen poetry" mostly)
	11:58am melinda: thanks Trub!
	11:58am northguineahills: @fred: My GIS software uses Python, geodatabase uses Java, so, I'm stuck...
	11:58am steveo: thanks for the show, Trouble!
	11:58am northguineahills: merci, Trouble!
	11:59am coelacanth∅: i've got to save this comment board as an author reference!
	11:59am JakeGould: Thanks Trouble!
	11:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Trouble
	11:59am northguineahills: @Coel: DT Suzuki sent me on a neverending rabbit hole.
	12:00pm fred: Thanks Trouble
	12:00pm RENBO: Have a great week always cheered and a little less lonely
	12:00pm coelacanth∅: there's another one then - thanks ngh!
	12:13pm Michael 98145: love this show ♫ thank you

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from August 30, 2018

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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August 30, 2018: now i know

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	New	Approx. start time
lapre	auferstehung "auferstehung" by "lapre"	Auferstehung	bureau B		*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
courtney hartman & taylor ashton	meadowlark	been on your side	free dirt		*	0:03:22 (Pop-up)
colleen	john levers the ratchet/what is a componium? pt 1	Colleen Et Les Boîtes À Musique				0:06:30 (Pop-up)
cloud seeder	d3n t4k m1k "d3n t4k m1k" by "cloud seeder"	cloud seeder	Lather		*	0:12:52 (Pop-up)

alice coltrane	Huntington Ashram Monastery	Huntington Ashram Monastery				0:33:59 (Pop-up)
alice coltrarne	the ankh of amen-ra	Universal Consciousness				0:38:57 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane	Ptah, The El Daoud	Ptah, the El Daoud				0:45:05 (Pop-up)

Michael Jackson	liberian girls with letta mbulu	bad				1:06:19 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda	om shanti	alice coltrane turiyasangitananda	luaka bop			1:09:54 (Pop-up)
andrew bernstein	vesica piscis "vesica piscis" by "andrew bernstein"	an exploded view of time	hausu mountain		*	1:16:30 (Pop-up)
docteur nico	madou whiskey soda "madou whiskey soda" by "docteur nico"	east of africa, pioneers of african popular music v/a				1:21:55 (Pop-up)
mattiel	baby brother "baby brother" by "mattiel"	matiiel	burger		*	1:24:28 (Pop-up)
the sahara all stars	take your soul	Nigeria Disco Funk Special: The Sound of the Underground Lagos Dance Floor 1974-1979 (V/A)				1:26:50 (Pop-up)
lyn collins	think "think" by "lyn collins"	james brown's funky divas v/a				1:36:58 (Pop-up)
fred wesley & the j.b.'s	watermelon man	the j.b.'s: funky good time the anthology				1:37:54 (Pop-up)
fred and the new j.b.'s	rockin' funky watergate	the j.b.'s: funky good time the anthology				1:40:38 (Pop-up)
frank chickens	one million hamburgers ( mac mix)			12"		1:45:07 (Pop-up)
gang gang dance	J-Tree "J-Tree" by "gang gang dance"	Kazuashita	4ad		*	1:51:30 (Pop-up)
badawi	turbo auto drive "turbo auto drive" by "badawi"	badawi presents bedouin sound clash featuring honeychild				2:00:10 (Pop-up)
gal costa	pais tropical "pais tropical" by "gal costa"	gal costa				2:01:32 (Pop-up)

stefan neville +greg malcolm	hora	a nuance	feeding tube		*	2:11:17 (Pop-up)
shirley collins	seven yellow gipsies	the power of the true love knot				2:14:09 (Pop-up)
Stella Chiweshe	chipindura "chipindura" by "Stella Chiweshe"	Kasahwa: Early Singles			*	2:15:16 (Pop-up)
Träden	a nej/oh no "a nej/oh no" by "Träden"	Träden	gashud/subliminal sounds		*	2:19:50 (Pop-up)
blueboy	disco bunny "disco bunny" by "blueboy"	the bank of england	a colourful storm		*	2:25:42 (Pop-up)
pale mara	i think i am a phoenix "i think i am a phoenix" by "pale mara"	pale mara	pale mara		*	2:28:15 (Pop-up)
coamb	omphalos "omphalos" by "coamb"	the dreamery pea	coamb		*	2:31:54 (Pop-up)
Kikagaku Moyo	orange peel "orange peel" by "Kikagaku Moyo"	masana temples	Guruguru Brain		*	2:35:40 (Pop-up)
hollie cook	for me you are dub "for me you are dub" by "hollie cook"	prince fatty presents hollie cook in dub				2:40:32 (Pop-up)
jay abbott	la tanya "la tanya" by "jay abbott"	sweet 'n' salty popcorn v/a	croydon municipal			2:43:25 (Pop-up)

kristin hersh	tulum "tulum" by "kristin hersh"	possible dust clouds	fire		*	2:49:10 (Pop-up)
map 71	primary radioaction "primary radioaction" by "map 71"	void axis	fourth dimension		*	2:53:12 (Pop-up)
timothy james	buzz the romantic "buzz the romantic" by "timothy james"	wind	tigershrimp		*	2:56:22 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:01am Adrian in London: Hello Trouble. Hello listeners. Can we have some music to calm me the hell down on manic press deadline, please?
	9:02am Rocky Horror: Hello Trouble
	9:02am northguineahills: the artwork, a nautical metaphor for my life (but I escape better then Jonah).
	9:03am D. Lightfoot: Yes, Adrian said. Thursday is my day to get shit done and I need a playlist that make me feel like I'm somebody else—somebody calm, patient and competent.
	9:03am Guido from Cologne: Hello Trouble! Do sharks enjoy teapots?
	9:04am D. Lightfoot: It's a teapot full of chum
	9:04am kevlicki: Good morning trouble!
	9:04am Ken From Hyde Park: Alright, here we go. Who's looking for Trouble?
	9:05am Trouble: hola mes amigos! happy to be here, happy to have you here. @adrian: coming right up
	9:05am D. Lightfoot: this is lovely
	9:05am Linda Lee: good morning Trouble! thanks so much for gentle music to start.
	9:05am queems: so pretty
	9:06am Linda Lee: sitting right here where the juniper grows. do need to install a wood stove for the winter!
	9:07am Linda Lee: here comes poor colleen & her wooden leg.
	9:08am kevlicki: Wish the Courtney Hartman I went to high school with was a singer songwriter. That was pleasant!
	9:09am Linda Lee: you're sure she's not, kevlicki?
	9:10am Linda Lee: wait ... isn't there a tempest in that teapot?
	9:11am melinda: morning!
	9:12am sphere: hello peops
	9:14am Webhamster Henry: Good Morning, Modern World!
	9:15am Webhamster Henry: A bit on the bleepy - blorpy - tinkly side this morning!
	9:16am D. Lightfoot: Incidental music to a late 70s Barbarella-type soft-porn space opera.
	9:17am Simon from England: Nice! I like this cloud seeder tune.
	9:18am sphere: Only the French could have turned science fiction into sexytime.
	9:18am melinda: I like the blorpy tinkly
	9:18am Colin and Danie in Durham, England: Morning x
	9:19am Tiago from Portugal: Hello Trouble, hello world, hello shark!
	9:20am northguineahills: couldn't have said it better, melinda.....
	9:21am Scraps: h’lo hey
	9:22am still b/p: Quint: "You know the thing about a shark....he's got long whiskers....delicate whiskers. Like a leopard's whiskers."
	9:23am Ken From Hyde Park: Sharky's trying to disguise itself as a feline.
	9:25am Asheville Jon: this cloud seeder is really trippy in a good way, especially after downing several cups of coffee and mentally speeding. weirdness
	9:26am Itzall Ablurr: sphere, "the Italians" did it pretty bella too!
	9:30am JakeGould: Hello Trouble!
	9:31am northguineahills: Digging this bed record!
	9:32am Webhamster Henry: I have an "English phrases for foreign speakers" record around here some where - the speaker has a pronounced Maine accent.
	9:32am northguineahills: @Itzall Ablurr: See the Rec label, "Italians do it Better".
	9:33am melinda: @Henry that's funny
	9:34am northguineahills: Humid FL. wearing pants and long sleeves, as my meds make me cold (thank chthulhu!)
	9:35am dfb: the heat broke here today, i just watered the garden on the rooftop, beautiful up there. nice to be listening here too, morning trouble
	9:35am bore: Happy Birthday Alice Coltrane! I agree, she is a gem.
	9:35am northguineahills: Alice?!!!! w/ the Pharoah!!!!
	9:37am JakeGould: Oh joy! The subway was humid, the walk was humid and then I get to work and find out there is a brown out and the elevators are out and I have to climb 10 flights in a humid, dank stairwell. BUT I AM NOT COMPLAINING!
	9:37am Lewis: the nice thing about the comments board is that you can sort of half listen for a while and then something clicks and you can catch up...
	9:38am northguineahills: pre-clickied! forgot Pharoah wasn't on this.....
	9:40am steveo: is that in manhattan jake?
	9:40am Webhamster Henry: It's my birthday too! And R. Crumb's! An Alice Coltrane cut from last year's Turiyasangitananda album would be nice!
	9:42am Itzall Ablurr: northguineahillz, thanks for the tip- because that looks like a potential income drain, in a good way!
	9:43am Itzall Ablurr: Sort of like this show- every time a star gets clicked, a record company gets their wings... I mean my money.
	9:43am sphere: Alice Coltrane is still underrated as an instrumentalist.
	9:43am JakeGould: @SteveO: Yes, it’s not the Bronx of Staten!
	9:44am JakeGould: @ItzallAblurr: Oh please, give those record companies their money. They are so cash poor!
	9:46am steveo: Yes, happy birthday to the always captivating Alice Coltrane & good morning, Trouble. @Jake OK! Happy to report our elevators are working in Hell's Kitchen. Maybe you can take a fire pole to lunch?
	9:46am Itzall Ablurr: Jake, I do, I do. And I like to think that maybe just maybe some of that dough helps keep the band in ramen.
	9:48am JakeGould: @Itzall: I was once on Twitter joking with Arrington De Dionyso about how bad the royalty system is. He mentioned some hilariously typical $1 and change royalty check he received. I joked you could probably just walk around your neighborhood and find money money that way. The next day I found $2 on the street. I MADE MORE MONEY THAN A WORKING MUSICIAN THAT DAY!!!
	9:51am fred: Hello Trouble and all. And happy birthday Henry!
	9:52am Webhamster Henry: @JakeGould indeed, but busking is sometimes pretty lucrative too! Read my favorite Sherlock Holmes story: The Man With The Twisted Lip!
	9:54am Itzall Ablurr: Haha. Funny/Sad, right? I'm sure you've heard about the zillionth-of-a-penny type royalties they "earn" for use online too. Still I buy the records and even CDs (I know, so not hip).
	9:54am sphere: @ Henry that's a good Holmes story!
	9:54am Trouble: happy birthday webmaster!
	9:54am longrally: Alice is the bees knees! So good.
	9:55am meredith: Wondering if you saw this @Trouble www.nytimes.com...
	9:55am sphere: @Itzall I am totally pro-CD. They sound just as good as vinyl, are more durable than vinyl, and are rippable to boot.
	9:56am fred: Yeah, a friend once showed me the pages of the detailed royalties statement he got from iTunes, for a total failing to reach €2. Bandcamp pays much better
	9:57am JakeGould: @Itzall: Oh yeah, Spotify is a joke. Bandcamp is really the great hope for indie artists and others.
	9:58am melinda: Happy birthday Henry!
	10:00am Chris from DC: Ditto on Bandcamp.
	10:01am JakeGould: Happy B-Day Webhmaster!
	10:01am sphere: Agreed. Bandcamp is the best deal for fans and artists. (happy birthday Henry!)
	10:02am JakeGould: Also, two kids were tap dancing on my subway car a few weeks ago and I gave them $5. That is the most I have ever given towards the art of tap dancing.
	10:03am Roberto: Lol I know which school you're talking about!
	10:07am Trouble: o you do! @roberto!
	10:07am Roberto: Mm hmmmm
	10:11am Mick: Happy Birthday Alice, Michael, and Henry!
	10:12am Webhamster Henry: Thanks Modernaires!
	10:13am fred: @JakeGould: I tend to consider tap dancing as closer to music than dance, but I'm a dance snob
	10:14am Webhamster Henry: You can check one of my bands' Bandcamp sites here: mamalama.bandcamp.com We did a show in the Widow Jane Mine last Saturday.
	10:16am frenchee: ah Alice....a little prayer to ease into the work day.
	10:18am fred: @Henry: nice! didn't you have another literally underground show last year?
	10:20am melinda: Tap dancing is hard. I quit after a few lessons, but it didn't help that the classes were held in a hot stuffy room on the top floor of an old recreation center building.
	10:21am Kiss Grits: This A Bernstein thing is really doing it for me right now thank you
	10:22am steveo: @grits same
	10:26am Webhamster Henry: @fred We did! The band is different now though! Full disclosure, I'm the president of the Board of the not-for-profit that runs the Widow Jane Mine, and both of the bands I'm in played benefits in there! People - come on up for the Subterranean Poetry Festival Sept 8th! centuryhouse.org
	10:29am steveo: trumpet solo=clicky star
	10:30am meredith: I just found out it is also Robert Crumb's birthday today!!! <3
	10:31am Linda Lee: sahara all stars = a beautiful groove. Brava Trouble!!
	10:32am steveo: and webhamster henry's :)
	10:33am Itzall Ablurr: meredith, he (Crumb) is one of the world's greatest living artists in my opinion. Some of his "serious" figure studies really show his genius. And, of course Mr. Natural.
	10:34am blee: So damn funky. Yes!
	10:34am Mick: This sahara all stars is downright dangerous. And happy birthday to r. crumb too!
	10:34am jmr3: Darn these playlists. If this were a "regular" radio station I wouldn't know that I'd missed a whole bunch of Alice Coltrane. Of course if it were a "regular" radio station you wouldn't have played her in the first place. ...
	10:35am northguineahills: @steveo: until I do a trumpet solo....;p
	10:36am meredith: YES! @Itzall! He was prolific
	10:36am JakeGould: Robert Crumb has some art skills, but I find him to be vile on more than a few levels. That is all.
	10:36am sphere: woot! never heard the original It Takes Two.
	10:36am Itzall Ablurr: (pssst- he's still alive)
	10:37am meredith: @JakeGould I agree on some of that too. I like the complicated aspect of his art. Certainly not for everyone! @Itzall OOPS typo :)
	10:37am sphere: oops - not the original. too quick on the keyboard, im afraid. :)
	10:39am Itzall Ablurr: "some art skills". Riiiight.
	10:40am Hugh: Rob Base! The sound of summer 1988? I think that was one of the first tracks to set off the first sampling lawsuits when they didn't pay James Brown and company for that one.
	10:40am Itzall Ablurr: That Picasso, he was a freak but I guess he was a decent enough draftsman?
	10:40am steveo: @ngh I've also heard some very good "non-traditional" trumpet solos, maybe you could go for that
	10:41am The Oscar: At every single birthday and Christmas from when I was 10 to when I was 17, one grown relative or another would pull me aside to inform me that they almost got me some R. Crumb thing or another, but then decided that would be inappropriate. As a result, R. Crumb became sort of a mythical figure for me growing up.
	10:42am JakeGould: If Robert Crumb is reading this, please give money to the station here: pledge.wfmu.org Also, Picasso, Miro, and tons of others are better artists than Robert Crumb. His main level of fame comes from applying that level of skill to comics. Past that, I’m not the only one who doesn’t worship at his inkwell. Moebius (Jean Giraud) is amazing but nobody has made him some art diety.
	10:43am melinda: I felt sort of creeped out and conflicted after watching Crumb (the film). It would be interesting to re-watch.
	10:44am meredith: @melinda I had the same reaction! But for some reason, I enjoy conflict with my art. Not all the time, but often.
	10:47am The Oscar: I'm not sure I've ever heard a bad song about hamburgers.
	10:47am JakeGould: Sorry to sound like a snob, but at a certain point in my life I held onto the (misbegotten) idea that museums and “high art” were snotty and bad and somehow the world of hipster “comix” was more real. Once I got past prejudices others put in my head, I realized in the great scheme of things there are tons of other artists I was never exposed to that are as good or better than “underground” crap. And yes, there are definitely some great comic artists out there. No doubt. But I’m personally tired of the incredible self-importance of that world.
	10:47am JakeGould: @TheOscar: What about that disco hit, “Hamburgers (For Nazis)?”
	10:48am melinda: @meredith I'm better with that conflict than I was back then, that's why I might watch it again. Also, his brother was the creepiest in that film. It's a great study of family weirdness.
	10:49am JakeGould: @melinda: The whole Crumb family is a creep-fest.
	10:50am fred: @JakeGould: Moebius is pretty much an art deity in France
	10:51am Mick: I just learned that Paul Taylor passed. Speaking of near-deities.
	10:52am melinda: I don't see the comics world as being more self-important than the "high art" world at all, it's just expanded and received more attention in the last 20 years or so, which it deserves.
	10:52am Lewis: does MacDonalds count "hamburgers served" or calculate it?... counting into the billions is not easy...
	10:53am northguineahills: @steveo:I used to play a cornet in a water vat w/ a contact mic above the water line, and my band mate would manipulate it w/ ableton live.
	10:53am Webhamster Henry: Jesse Crumb died recently (R's older son). And indeed, Moebius is an art deity in France. Trolling around the internet looking for drawings reveals there are a great number of fantastic artists out there - I say, this is not horse race. Crumb talked records with DJ Mac a few years ago: wfmu.org...
	10:53am Lewis: and does a Big Mac count as 2...
	10:54am JakeGould: @Lewis: I think they stopped attempting exact numbers sometime in the 1980s, right? Yes! I am right! “The number continued to rise: 5 billion in 1969, 15 billion in 1974, 30 billion in 1979, and 45 billion in 1983. After that, the company simply began adding 5 billion to the number every year, topping out at 99 billion in 1993. Sometime after that, the signs were updated to “BILLIONS AND BILLIONS SERVED,” and they haven’t changed since.” www.thedailymeal.com...
	10:55am Lewis: Thanks! @JakeGould!
	10:55am melinda: @Henry there is a Youtube vid of them chatting, as well. If I remember correctly Crumb is sitting in one of those giant hand chairs.
	10:56am The Oscar: Back in the '90s one of the Ninja Turtles guys opened a whole museum of comic book art out in Northampton, MA, with original art going back to Jack Kirby and the like. It only lasted a few years, but it was one of my favorite places as a kid. I fondly remember going to a signing by Jeff Smith (Bone), and got an original sketch which is on my wall to this day.
	10:56am Ken From Hyde Park: Jeff Bezos is worth a lot of burgers, it seems.
	10:56am JakeGould: @melinda: Well, let me be fair and say there is some sort of halo of noble martyrism mentality that pervades some parts of the world of DIY culture that I am completely over.
	10:57am Webhamster Henry: @melinda which is part of the playlist link I posted!
	10:57am Trouble: www.nytimes.com...
	10:57am Itzall Ablurr: "To generalize is to be an idiot" ~William Blake (the poet not the cop with a bird)
	10:58am melinda: @Jake I get that part. @Henry cool! I scanned quickly and didn't see the link.
	10:58am JakeGould: @TheOscar: That sounds cool! But I will assure you in NYC indie scenes, dumpling on any mainstream artist is openly acceptable and stupid.
	10:58am the illuminated void: tiger tiger burning bright
	10:59am Itzall Ablurr: A favorite.
	10:59am the illuminated void: !
	11:00am Trouble: interesting, but not surprising: www.bustle.com...
	11:00am JakeGould: When Charles Schultz died (for example) there were a lot of indie comic artist who said essentially, “I always thought he was some mainstream jerk, but now I realize how great he was…” The world of indie art is filled with that kinda knee-jerk contrarianism.
	11:01am the illuminated void: maybe there are a lot more well nown men writers more men writers also
	11:02am the illuminated void: no doubt a bias..... for sure
	11:02am JakeGould: @Trouble: And the same holds true—even worse—in the world of indie comics. Why a boys club that world is! Lynda Barry has always been someone I respected since high school.
	11:03am Uncle Michael: I will always delurk and say 'yay!' for Gal Costa.
	11:03am Itzall Ablurr: Zora Neale Hurston Flannery O'Conner. Eudora Welty Carson McCullers... To name only a few.
	11:04am fred: Paul Taylor.... Not very interesting to me, but he did make some decent stuff. I guess I came too late to get his work. Too classical for me
	11:04am Fernando P: My everyday dose of Gal. Thanks Trouble!
	11:04am northguineahills: Badawi w/ Honeychild, she's a besty of mine! Gal Costa!
	11:05am steveo: @ngh see, I knew it :)
	11:05am coelacanth∅: what Uncle M said
	11:05am Trouble: recommends lots of female writers www.nytimes.com...
	11:05am Nate K: I think the Gal Costa and Gal LPs are some of my fave psych records possibly ever.
	11:06am Uncle Michael: What Nate said.
	11:07am melinda: @Jake I agree, Lynda B deserves more respect within that world.
	11:07am The Oscar: One of my favorite high school memories was when a teacher handed me a photocopy of Flannery O'Connor's "Good Country People" after class and said, "I think this will be right up your alley." She was right.
	11:10am Fernando P: That song about Brazil being a country blessed by god and beautiful by nature is all we can say positively about this place that is on a bottomless downward social and political crisis.
	11:10am Listener Gregory: Trouble, what is the name of that James Brown backup singer album? Or can you send me your extra copy?
	11:12am Rich in Washington: I just saw the news about Paul Taylor on my twitter feed as you said his name.
	11:12am bryguy: I thought the MJ record skipping was a weird little intro section and I loved it haha
	11:12am northguineahills: @The Oscar: Dig!
	11:13am melinda: It's an experiment that could never be conducted but I wonder how people would feel about the books they read, what they would choose and recommend if all authors' name were gender-neutral.
	11:15am northguineahills: Shirley!!!!!!!!!!
	11:15am karlward: Did someone say indie comics? Check out traced.com ! Guaranteed 95% true. I took a great class taught by Tracy White a few years ago, so good.
	11:15am coelacanth∅: melinda i'm positive that would not effect my decisions.
	11:17am JakeGould: @melinda: Sad reality is J.K. Rowling’s published author name uses initials because a female name on books is perceived to not be a good thing. Sad and kinda pathetic if you think about how of all the forms of published media don’t go out of the way to mask a creator’s name… Except for the oldest form of published media.
	11:18am Trouble: i wrote it in @listener gregory
	11:19am Webhamster Henry: I'm a fan of female penned indie comix, which has some of the best autobio stuff out there. Lynda Barry, Phoebe Gloeckner, Debbie Drescher, Leslie Sternbergh, Carol Lay, Julie Doucet, Mary Fleener, Krystine Kryttre, Alison Bechdel .. and that's just off the top of my head!
	11:21am Lewis: I would be remiss if I didn't plug my kid's efforts in this conversation: www.margins.press as indie as can be I believe...
	11:21am jmr3: Traden? is it Avant Ghetto time already?
	11:21am northguineahills: Considering my favorite author as a wee lad was Judy Blume, I never considered gender on which authors I'd read.
	11:22am fred: @melinda: I tend to prefer female writers. More relatable, though my favorite living writer is Colson Whitehead. As a fave WFMU T-shirt says, consistently inconsistent
	11:22am JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: Don’t forget Marjane Satrapi and Persepolis.
	11:23am Passaic River Blues: Wow, Groff provides a cavalcade of recommendations! One of the suggested authors, Marie-Claire Blais of Quebec, is definitely someone I should investigate further. I've only read one of her books, "Season in the Life of Emmanuel", and it was bleak as hell, my personal sweet spot. Also, really love her reinterpretation of Jean Craighead George and "My Side of the Mountain": "Over the decades since I first found the books to be rollicking adventure stories, they’ve become chilling horror stories of lonely children lost and desperate to survive in unforgiving wilderness." MSotM was probably my favorite book from childhood but, I suspect, something that would prove upon re-reading to be less an adventure tale than one of loneliness and alienation, which, again, is fine by me.
	11:23am melinda: @coel I don't know if it would affect mine. @Henry great list. The Twisted Sisters anthology was one of my first intros to indie comics. I recently read Mimi Pond's book The Customer is Always Right, another excellent one. Somewhat autobiographical.
	11:24am Trouble: kate beaton! read all of her crazy cartoons: priceless. a favorite in my house by all who read
	11:25am jmr3: Aline Kominsky Crumb has a new anthology of her work out, I believe.
	11:25am Trouble: @passaicriverblues: i also liked her take on my side of the mountain. and jane eyre!
	11:26am melinda: @ngh one of my favorites too! you are atypical in that regard, but most likely don't need me to point that out, haha
	11:26am JakeGould: @WebhamsterHenry: But on the topic of “Perseolis,” there is—at least I consider—the bizarre case of Craig Thompson’s “Habibi.” A Christian American white guy writes Middle Eastern “romance” comic… And it’s praised, but I find it’s mere existence tone deaf. But few people really take it to task for that.
	11:29am coelacanth∅: the books i read are more often than not recommendations from friends/friendly acquaintances. there are more males than females recommended, which might say something about the people in my more-"progressive"-than-average-in-gender-issues community; but more likely it's because i read mostly old books by dead authors.
	11:30am Listener Gregory: Belated thanks for the belated write-in, Trouble.
	11:31am melinda: Wait, The Mimi Pond book is called The Customer is Always WRONG (emphasis mine). I should know better, I work in retail.
	11:32am Devin B.: @Fred: I haven't kept up with Whitehead, but I loved The Intuitionist. I had a class with him years ago - he had us read Jimmy Corrigan the Smartest Kid on Earth, speaking of great comics art.
	11:32am fred: I'm finally reading Jane Eyre these days. And I'm having trouble getting through the halfway mark
	11:32am coelacanth∅: and, another great track by träden! (none of which i've heard on the avant ghetto)
	11:33am melinda: @coel there are so many factors affecting our choices of what to read.
	11:34am RENBO: Hey Trouble thx for the tip re: Father Ted last week--I'd lived in the UK as well as Eire, married and duly employed in local council offices, and consider myself, eventho now back in the US and divorced, still fully engaged in the UK/Eire maelstrom and hadn't seen Father Ted--very silly and fun to binge-watch! What was the other show you mentioned with that actor? I wasn't quick enough with the pen! PS Up here in Rockland County, as I read last labor day weekend was chaos and tourist cacophony, the control freaks up here-vis. the authorities-- are gonna rein the unruly fun-seeking maniacs right in so no queue-cutting this year !!
	11:34am Passaic River Blues: @Trouble: word up w/r/t Groff's take on Rochester and Eyre. It's something my sister has held for years. Years ago, when I saw the Welles/Fontaine movie, I remember thinking, "Jesus, Jane. I know it's Orson Welles and all, but you've got to get away from that bastard!" @Devin: post-Intuitionist Whitehead is all pretty good, most especially "Sag Harbor" and "The Underground Railroad".
	11:36am Devin B.: Thanks PRB. I remember liking but not finishing John Henry Days and then ... other interests gained ground
	11:36am fred: @Devin B: I have a WFMU T-shirt with Jimmy Corrigan on it! I struggled to get The Underground Railroad before heading into a month-long hospital stay, not his best though. Check out John Henry Days (no reference to birthday boy webhamster)
	11:36am coelacanth∅: right melinda. -and i only started reading fiction (or semi-fiction) withing the past 1/4 of my life so in the grand scheme of things i haven't read many books. i loved the first few books and decided to read all the books by those authors, all of which are male except Mary Shelley. but we're only talking about less than a dozen authors.
	11:37am Trouble: @passaicriverblues: as a teenager i thought the bronte etc crowd was super creepy with the female/male hierarchy. stayed away from it and read it as an adult, my teens self was right.
	11:37am JakeGould: @melinda (and others): Shana Cleveland of “La Luz” is a great artist. Some of her artist and musician portraits are here: crawdadcleveland.tumblr.com But she also has doodles she made when she was a barista of customer interactions. So good! snack-shack-phunnyz-blog.tumblr.com
	11:38am coelacanth∅: (less than a dozen that i want to read everything by, that is)
	11:38am Trouble: bookshop by penelope fitzgerald has been made into a movie! not sure how it will be, BUT it has bill nighy!! www.youtube.com...
	11:39am melinda: @Jake thanks for the links, good stuff!
	11:39am Listener Gregory: I'm not reading that many contemporary novels, but I've read two by Jennifer Egan and thought they were really good.
	11:40am Trouble: @renbo: death in paradise is the funny mystery thang that ardal o'hanlon is in, not as funny as father ted. but we watch it becasue we love silly
	11:41am adampsyche: <3 trouble's reggae sets
	11:42am Devin B.: Excited to read new books by Ottessa Moshfegh and Megan Boyle this fall
	11:42am Mick: Thanks for the links, Trouble. in the Lauren Groff article, @passaicriverblues, i also loved "Librarians and booksellers are quiet superheroes." And re. Welles/Fontaine Eyre: you read my mind...
	11:43am northguineahills: wow, holllie cook in dub!
	11:43am Lewis: The Skank Your Lucky Stars comp from Gaylord this year is a riot as so many track try and fail to get the rhythms right...
	11:44am Trouble: 'Manhattan beach' sucked me in and spit me out 3 days later. it was great fun!
	11:44am Listener Gregory: @Trouble, that's next on my list.
	11:45am RENBO: nice thx thx Speaking of old books by dead people :-) !! Finishing Mary Barton, about to start Willy O'Reilly and his Dear Cooleen Bawn, 1855, by William Carleton whoever that was bless him. I'd love a few recommendations from fellow listeners of the more obscurantist sleepers of this era--anybody?
	11:45am Lucky: Oh, yeah. I guess the Bookshop WILL be seen. That cast! Now I have to read the book!
	11:46am fred: @Gregory: Thanks for the rec
	11:46am northguineahills: @coel:90% of what I read is non-fiction, but I still find time for fiction occasionally (reading environmental academic papers at work now, (best day at work evar!!!)
	11:48am Passaic River Blues: @Mick: That is a great line re And I LOVE Orson Welles, but even he couldn't make Rochester more than a malignant blackhole of morbidity and self-pity. Still, now I want to watch "Othello" or "F Is for Fake".
	11:48am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Reading The Perfectionists now, it is a history of precision manufacturing, specifically all about precision, the first commercially viable precision lathe by Maudsley, etc. It is fun to geek out on this stuff for me as I am a mechanical engineer.
	11:49am melinda: Bill Nighy makes everything better
	11:49am Passaic River Blues: *That is a great line regarding librarians and booksellers.
	11:49am Adrian in London: Ooh, I just bought The Bookshop this week, because I remember you saying you liked her writing so I thought I'd give it a go. My wife has started it and likes it very much.
	11:51am christopher: Is that Green Day’s bassist?
	11:51am Trouble: everything that penelope fitzgerald wrote is fantabulous. only 8 short books...
	11:52am fred: @ngh: your work reading habits are way more healthy than mine. Anyone who knows the name Agner Fog has a problem
	11:52am Trouble: i loved mary barton!! such a contempo read for a woman who lived hundreds of years ago...
	11:53am jmr3: @Mick - thanks, I'm a librarian, listening at my desk
	11:54am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Trouble. Enjoy the long weekend. See you in September!
	11:54am northguineahills: @fred: It's been a while since I've done strictly C++. I mostly do Python these days, which is related I suppose.
	11:57am Trouble: thanks for listening! see you next week. stay cool-ish if at all possible...sigh
	11:57am fred: @ngh: Python is a return to Java hell. Arrogant assholes who just troll. Awful community, maybe not as bad as Java. Yet.
	11:57am Mick: @passaicriverblues - you and me both! But yeah, Rochester is tough to redeem - like Groff writes: he pretty much tortures both Jane and his wife. Othello is super interesting in its way, especially knowing the lengths they had to go to make it. You need to brace yourself for the blackface business, but amazing performances.
	11:58am coelacanth∅: ngh for me it was 100% either reference; zen philosophy; or history. now (as for books...the internet's another story) it's maybe 90% fiction, with the rest being music/musician history or "zen poetry" mostly)
	11:58am melinda: thanks Trub!
	11:58am northguineahills: @fred: My GIS software uses Python, geodatabase uses Java, so, I'm stuck...
	11:58am steveo: thanks for the show, Trouble!
	11:58am northguineahills: merci, Trouble!
	11:59am coelacanth∅: i've got to save this comment board as an author reference!
	11:59am JakeGould: Thanks Trouble!
	11:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Trouble
	11:59am northguineahills: @Coel: DT Suzuki sent me on a neverending rabbit hole.
	12:00pm fred: Thanks Trouble
	12:00pm RENBO: Have a great week always cheered and a little less lonely
	12:00pm coelacanth∅: there's another one then - thanks ngh!
	12:13pm Michael 98145: love this show ♫ thank you

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from August 30, 2018

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