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Favoriting February 19, 2018: Matt Klinman on "how Facebook is killing comedy"

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This evening, a conversation with Matt Klinman on the effect that Facebook is having on comedy.

Links:

How Facebook is Killing Comedy, Matt's interview with Splitsider

Facebook Notification Has Crossed the Line (Wired, Feb 15)

How I Cracked Facebook's New Algorithm and Tortured My Friends, by Katie Notopoulos

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Techtonic friends, my suggestions this week:
- Delete social media apps from your smartphone.
- Pick up a book.
- Support independent, non-monopolist services like these alternatives and, of course, WFMU.

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Listener comments!

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northguineahills:

Techtonic platitudes, y'all...!
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geezerette:

wish it was the other way around.
  6:02pm
melinda:

Hi all
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark!
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geezerette:

Howdy!
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Webhamster Henry:

Hiya Mark and TechTones:

in re: killing comedy,
I like to quote Tom Lehrer on why he stopped writing satire: After Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize, you couldn't top that (words to that effect).
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Number Six:

Evening , Mark & All!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Oh, dear ... the killer app strikes again!
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Webhamster Henry:

Is there going to be a Botnik minute on this show every week?
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Ken From Hyde Park:

"Romantic algorithms" ... is there a joke in there somewhere? Hoo boy.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry:

All The News That's Fit To Fake on Feb 16,2018 17:03:30
By laying out in excruciating detail the F.B.I. acknowledged on Friday that it had failed to sow political discord.
  6:07pm
Commodore Vic:

Read some made-band names from Botnick's AI generated Coachella line-up. That's comedy!
  6:08pm
Commodore Vic:

(AI generated band names)
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geezerette:

no argument. witches brew.
  6:14pm
arrow apple:

Beware the Industrial/Military Complex. Clay played it this AM. If someone does not mention guns about this slaughter, walk away.
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ultradamno:

I've noticed Twitter doing this too. Giving me notices that people I follow have liked something.
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Number Six:

I'm not on fb but I got a new phone and removed their preinstalled app. Within 24 hours I started getting messages saying that x number of people are looking for me on fb.
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Switchblade Batman:

Yup, FB is broken. It has been for years. Will be in the future. Eventually it'll go the way of Myspace
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Algorithm was Kurt "Chalky" Gottschalk's word of the week last Wednesday on Wake 'n' Bake.
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queems:

oh i played that art face game
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queems:

because i'm a sucker
  6:19pm
Patty D:

I used to get a notification on my facebook app and the only way to make it go away would be to open the App. When I would open the app I wouldn't have any actual notifications. What I did notice however was that the very first post in my feed was always a promoted post which meant I was giving it an "impression" by seeing it. Coincidence? Doubtful.

P.S. love the show.
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Chud:

The Google Arts and Culture app has been around for a while... It's got a pretty good archive of high resolution scans of fine art from around the world
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Webhamster Henry:

I sent in pictures of electric sockets.
  6:22pm
melinda:

That selfie art thing seemed suspicious for exactly this reason.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I applied some good ol' Techtonic skepticism and didn't send any selfies to that project.
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Webhamster Henry:

Also drawings and shots of stuffed animals.
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Bas NL:

A database of deleted stuff.. yum!
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Chud:

I'm not a fan or user of the selfie part of the app, though the algorithm they use doesn't need to send a full image back to their servers to match
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queems:

i relate to this angry guy
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Webhamster Henry:

And also, it's results ere quite poor. So it was roughly as accurate as Internet quizzes like "What Hogwarts House do you sort in?"
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Webhamster Henry:

"And also, it's results ere quite poor." <== "And also, its results were quite poor."
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Fuzzy:

Brain Candy.
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queems:

HE'S A CYBORG
  6:28pm
Gooberz.jpg:

Nice I just read that piece

Digging the monster voice, for anonymity
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Webhamster Henry:

Hey , I'm in Pitch!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

OK, now he's sounding normal.
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Webhamster Henry:

It's a very interesting idea!
  6:32pm
Gregg:

The Onion was great until someone bought them and turned them into crap. I just remember the website Get Your War On. That was great too.
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βrian:

@Gregg: Amen. I'm from Madison.
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geezerette:

Yeah, GYWO was incredible!

FB is a memory hole.
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Fredericks:

To "ere" is human, Webhamster.
  6:38pm
Gooberz.jpg:

FB isn't even a good memory hole anymore. It's absolute mind control shit now. There's no reason to be there in 2018
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Fredericks:

Also, I think Lehrer said he couldn't do satire anymore.
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geezerette:

Memory holes are not a good thing.
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βrian:

Never actually used FB; only lurked a bit to find old friends. Just seemed too creepy.
  6:40pm
Gooberz.jpg:

All of this shit has moved over to Instagram now; and even there, the shark has been thoroughly jumped
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Fox:

I'd like to get that quote of Facebook = Walmart to post all over FB. Is that ok?
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βrian:

Every time I drop in on instagram, I get a blank page. Then I remember to turn javascript on. That's silly.
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el_musgo:

Just deleted FACEBOOK app from my phone. FEELS GOOD!
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Webhamster Henry:

Fortunately we have the WFMU playlist chatboards as a FB alternative.
  6:43pm
Gooberz.jpg:

FB is at least tolerable back in the 90s
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Fox:

Is FB harmful if you only interact with humans, and not with re-posted content?
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βrian:

State-of-the-art web design these days is shite. (In my view.)
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geezerette:

You're also spending your non-refundable time.
Working for them unaware and unpaid.
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Webhamster Henry:

Google + is Still There!
  6:44pm
Gregg:

Youtube channels that are being demonitized (like Jimmy Dore) are transitioning over to Steemit.
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βrian:

Will FB reinstall that app?
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Fox:

I remember when LiveJournal and AIM and independent messageboards was how most social networking happened. I remember thinking that the internet was a place where people were thoughtful and was meant for great written expression, increasing the literacy of the common person.
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northguineahills:

I use FB once a week to figure out shows in my new town. I have never had the phone app.
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βrian:

Some kind of open-source equivalent to FB might be interesting. Maybe Iceland could turn it's hydrothermal toward that!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Bring back Geocities!
  6:47pm
Gregg:

And Hamster Dance!
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Mark Hurst:

Vulture.com article on Cuplicated - www.vulture.com...
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βrian:

My favorite browser was iCab!
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βrian:

... if not Lynx.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

201-KEN-WFMU
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Phil with the phone:

Call in to FABULOUS studio B with your constructive input! 201-536-9368
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melinda:

I use FB on my ipod touch without the app.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
melinda:

The Techtonic t shirt looks good.
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dstimpf:

Some phones won't even allow you to uninstall the facebook app....pretty weird.
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ultradamno:

Never been on Facebook, only use Twitter on iPad mini or home computer.
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queems:

i deleted facebook 6 years ago and never looked back. not sure if i can give up instagram, though
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Webhamster Henry:

if you have an iOS device, and you want to use the desktop (not mobile) version of a webist, like facebook, hold the "reload" button ↻ and a menu pops up that says "Request Desktop Site" and you'll be able to pick up Facebook Messages without the app. The mobile version of Facebook's website does not allow messages!
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queems:

it uses similar algorithms now though
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queems:

yepppp
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Switchblade Batman:

What about Ello?
  6:56pm
Gooberz.jpg:

Instagram is all algorithms and ads too. Feels exactly like FB. Same thing now
  6:56pm
sufferwords:

never had FB on phone- feel i have to lurk on home computer as to stay abreast of modern trends- one helpful hint i have all notifications turned off
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melinda:

I just joined Instagram and it does feel sort of facebooky.
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queems:

@melinda it used to be a lot different. it has been sliding into facebook territory more and more
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Webhamster Henry:

That's Safari's convention .. I'm not sure if other browsers do it too.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Great, the secret's out. Apple will likely turn that feature off on the next upgrade.
  6:58pm
SeanG:

great show!
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