WFMU: Vocal Fry with Dan Bodah: Playlist from February 12, 2018

Listener comments!
	7:04pm Richard S: Hello! Happy Monday!
	7:04pm Linda Lee: fantastic! from AI to the thoroughly human! hi Dan!
	7:05pm TDK60: I've heard that first piece before! Where?
	7:05pm common: ello!
	7:06pm TDK60: Linda, you're "here." If it's ethical to even do so [?] we can continue our talk about albums/tapes.
	7:07pm Tom Miller: Stepanida! This style is called toyuk, a typical Sakha (Yakut) genre full of glissandi and glottal shakes.
	7:08pm Tom Miller: She told me "I don't know why I do it, but at all my concerts I loosen my hair. It's a tradition that a woman frees her hair at the most important moments of life: birth and so on. I think it's a way of connecting with the upper worlds."
	7:09pm Dan Bodah: Hello all! @Tom, thanks for the info -- when did you meet Stepanida?
	7:10pm TDK60: LL: You'd asked about older, shorter pop albums and EPs?
	7:10pm Linda Lee: yes i did. i'm not up on the latest.
	7:10pm misterrrCaz: "All Seeing Hand" indeed. great tune !
	7:10pm Dan Bodah: @TDK60, I believe it came out on a comp from Touch or some such label at some point? Also there's a video that Bart Plantenga (Wreck This Mess) put up.
	🍳 7:11pm yippie: joiku its another way to spell yoik
	7:13pm Linda Lee: Huun Huuur Tu!! just amazing..
	7:13pm Tom Miller: A couple of times. I first heard her in 1992, later I interviewed her in her house in Yakutsk in 1999 for my dissertation. Also used her music in a 2008 installation in Germany.
	7:14pm Linda Lee: interesting .. ingestion of southeast asian herb kratom makes those throat-tones really pop.
	7:15pm TDK60: Thanks DJ Dan.
	7:15pm Tom Miller: Also used her singing for a piece I did for NPR on Sakha rock.
	7:16pm Tom Miller: Dan, thanks for your help yesterday at the Bad Princess book launch! You look good in a crown.
	7:19pm TDK60: Linda, You'd asked about shorter albums and EPs. Mini-LPs were around in the New Wave era with usually 5, 6, 7 tunes on a 10" or 12" disc. EPs were usually 7" (like 45s) with 3 or 4 maybe 5 songs. Sound right?
	7:19pm βrian: I don't know this piece by the Necks. Recent?
	7:21pm TDK60: If anyone missed Rob W.'s recent show, hear it in the archives -- great Korean music to coincide with the Olympics.
	7:27pm Dan Bodah: @Brian, that's the Necks' first record -- Sex.
	7:29pm Linda Lee: @TDK60 ~ hmm. i''m not recalling the 7" or 10" mutli-song disc too well. 12" yes. that's what I was calling an EP.
	7:30pm TDK60: LL: I think 12" isn't correct for an EP but I may be wrong.
	7:31pm Linda Lee: just going by my memory here .. admittedly not always on point :-D
	7:31pm Linda Lee: now i guess vinyl producers are doing whatever they darn well please with the medium :-)
	7:32pm Dan Bodah: @LL, yeah, I'd say an EP is any release with a few songs (usually around 5) -- not enough to be a full record (in the 35-45 min range minimally) but longer than a single w/B-side track. I'd use the term EP for that in any format (vinyl of any size, CD, cassette etc).
	7:32pm βrian: @Dan B: Thanks. I didn't realize they went that far back. Just saw them last spring in Chicago. Really excellent.
	7:32pm Dan Bodah: @Brian, yeah -- that record was out in 1989
	7:33pm Linda Lee: thanks, Dan. that's how i used the term too. didn't seem to me that the size mattered .. for once :-D
	7:33pm βrian: Their seminal "release," as it were.
	7:34pm Dan Bodah: BTW, drummer on this Sainkho Namtchylak is Sunny Murray (RIP)
	7:35pm Linda Lee: incredible recording.
	7:37pm TDK60: LL & DB: See, I didn't know that. Does this mean a mini-LP 12" is the same as a 12" EP? 45-sized 4-song EPs were common in '60s UK pop, not so much here it seemed. 7" EPs got big again in the punk/new wave era, here too.
	7:39pm Tom Miller: Still waiting for the cassingles revival though.
	7:40pm Linda Lee: @TDK60 ~ yes i think we're talking about the same thing.. mini LP = EP. do remember the multi-song 45s here too, in the 50s & 60s. generally 2 tracks per side ..
	7:41pm Linda Lee: @Tom Miller ~ actually still have a bunch of those. funny little waste of materials. :-)
	7:41pm TDK60: Now I've been set aright and maybe can sleep a full night again. MINI LPS ARE EPS!
	7:42pm Linda Lee: glad i had my memory confirmed too :-D
	7:42pm melinda: This is nice.
	7:43pm Linda Lee: it is. nice tone palette
	7:43pm TDK60: I do still have @ 700 space-taking plastic cassettes (60 or 90 m.). But the cassingle always annoyed me.
	7:46pm βrian: Boom! That must've been something.
	7:46pm Tom Miller: Boxes of cassettes by the thousands here. Occasionally I grab a handful of them and go on a bulk digitizing jag.
	7:47pm Linda Lee: cassingles: utterly unstable medium offering minimal real product .. as if cassettes weren't bad enough trash wise! :-) Shopping bags upon bags upon bags of cassettes await me at a house i've just sold .. can't imagine what to do with them, as there's nowhere to bring them to. are they worth trucking into storage? are they potential hipster-bait?
	7:48pm TDK60: Then, there's the Double Album. // Great music tonight.
	7:48pm Linda Lee: ho! the double album! or the extra-special Triple gatefold!
	🍳 7:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: @Linda Lee - I wonder if Craigslist or Ebay can help find a home for them? Maybe Pizza Box Guy knows a collector.
	7:51pm TDK60: I betcha there are mix tape fanatics needing tapes to tape over.
	7:52pm Linda Lee: @ Ken From Hyde Park ~ here in the states sales prices barely justify shipping. so much effort to list em all too. i think i'd rather just pull my own eyes out :-D
	7:53pm Linda Lee: the kids do love them in the UK. crazy for cassettes. but talk about shipping! :-)
	7:54pm TDK60: I once found a record store (2008) had thrown thousands of tapes into their dumpster. I took as many as my pack could hold, to tape over.
	7:55pm Linda Lee: wow .. what were you putting on them in 08?
	7:55pm βrian: I'd love to hear these guys do the Mah Nà Mah Nà song.
	7:56pm TDK60: Ha! Well, maybe Six Organs of Admittance, Miles, Stereolab, Fahey, the Searchers.
	7:56pm Linda Lee: question i have is, now that we have digital, what advantages do cassettes really have utiility-wise? they were great when there was nothing else to tape on .. i was part of a network that sent mixtapes all over the world .. but!
	7:58pm Linda Lee: wow .. love the Mikuskovics.
	7:59pm melinda: Me too!
	7:59pm Richard S: Cassettes don't change format. (WAV, MIDI, MP3, OGG, whatever...)
	7:59pm Kamp Climax: I can understand the cassette revival. We all recorded on Tascam 4 tracks, so it's a medium we created on, so the love for that medium is understandable. But can somebody please, I'm begging, explain to me the VHS revival, because that one completely goes over my head. I could even understand the old reels of film, but VHS?
	8:00pm TDK60: Tapes are silly. Tapes are space wasting. They should also from now on only be made of veggie fibers and sold by artisanal vendors. There should be a large warehouse archive of all tapes.
	8:00pm βrian: To say nothing of 8-track.
	8:00pm Linda Lee: there's a VHS revival? :-D is it really just a matter of tangible materials?
	8:01pm TDK60: Thanks Dan.
	10:08pm Dan Bodah: Re the conversation about tapes: there is a cardboard box in the WFMU dining room where people leave stuff, mostly old recordings, for others to take. Tonight it contained a pile of 8-tracks (I remember listening to those as a kid!) - and... an unopened jar of Nutella.

Vocal Fry with Dan Bodah: Playlist from February 12, 2018

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February 12, 2018: 120: Seas of seasalt and dreams

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Lioudmila Khandl	Yakut Song "Yakut Song" by "Lioudmila Khandl"	Songs from the Cold Seas	N/A	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Stepanida Borisova	Yakut National Song	N/A	N/A	0:03:01 (Pop-up)
The All-Seeing Hand	Death of St. Cosmos	Fog & Debris	Muzai Records (NZ)	0:06:04 (Pop-up)
Phil Minton	Wilkins Rejoice "Wilkins Rejoice" by "Phil Minton"	A Doughnut's End	Fataka	0:08:47 (Pop-up)
Huun Huur Tu	Kargyraa "Kargyraa" by "Huun Huur Tu"	Live on Transpacific Sound Paradise on WFMU	Free Music Archive	0:10:56 (Pop-up)
Stimmhorn	Raureif "Raureif" by "Stimmhorn"	Schnee	Traumton Records	0:13:19 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Necks	Sex "Sex" by "The Necks"	Sex	Fish of Milk	0:16:46 (Pop-up)
Sayo Ogasawa & Utae Ehara	Rekuhkara (Ainu throat-singing)	N/A	N/A	0:24:56 (Pop-up)
Steve Balsamo	Harmonic Overtone Meditation	N/A	N/A	0:25:42 (Pop-up)
Sainkho Namtchylak, Grace Yoon, Iris Disse	Coutdown	Tunguska-Guska: ein Meteoriten-Oper	EFA	0:29:04 (Pop-up)
Carton Sonore	Dans La Forêt "Dans La Forêt" by "Carton Sonore"	Animago	Wamhmp	0:35:15 (Pop-up)
Phew	Scat "Scat" by "Phew"	Voice Hardcore	Mesh-Key	0:38:26 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Necks	Sex "Sex" by "The Necks"	Sex	Fish of Milk	0:42:24 (Pop-up)
Jaap Blonk	Popocatepetl "Popocatepetl" by "Jaap Blonk"	Flux de Bouche	Staalplaat	0:46:56 (Pop-up)
Iva Bittová with Netherlands Wind Ensemble	Quatuor Pour Cora	Dance of the Vampires	NBELive	0:48:39 (Pop-up)
Rastaba Chorus	Duopoly 2 for Overtone Singer	Works for Voice	Rastaba Chorus	0:51:53 (Pop-up)
Mikuskovics	Fujara & Overtone Singing	N/A	N/A	0:55:11 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	7:04pm Richard S: Hello! Happy Monday!
	7:04pm Linda Lee: fantastic! from AI to the thoroughly human! hi Dan!
	7:05pm TDK60: I've heard that first piece before! Where?
	7:05pm common: ello!
	7:06pm TDK60: Linda, you're "here." If it's ethical to even do so [?] we can continue our talk about albums/tapes.
	7:07pm Tom Miller: Stepanida! This style is called toyuk, a typical Sakha (Yakut) genre full of glissandi and glottal shakes.
	7:08pm Tom Miller: She told me "I don't know why I do it, but at all my concerts I loosen my hair. It's a tradition that a woman frees her hair at the most important moments of life: birth and so on. I think it's a way of connecting with the upper worlds."
	7:09pm Dan Bodah: Hello all! @Tom, thanks for the info -- when did you meet Stepanida?
	7:10pm TDK60: LL: You'd asked about older, shorter pop albums and EPs?
	7:10pm Linda Lee: yes i did. i'm not up on the latest.
	7:10pm misterrrCaz: "All Seeing Hand" indeed. great tune !
	7:10pm Dan Bodah: @TDK60, I believe it came out on a comp from Touch or some such label at some point? Also there's a video that Bart Plantenga (Wreck This Mess) put up.
	🍳 7:11pm yippie: joiku its another way to spell yoik
	7:13pm Linda Lee: Huun Huuur Tu!! just amazing..
	7:13pm Tom Miller: A couple of times. I first heard her in 1992, later I interviewed her in her house in Yakutsk in 1999 for my dissertation. Also used her music in a 2008 installation in Germany.
	7:14pm Linda Lee: interesting .. ingestion of southeast asian herb kratom makes those throat-tones really pop.
	7:15pm TDK60: Thanks DJ Dan.
	7:15pm Tom Miller: Also used her singing for a piece I did for NPR on Sakha rock.
	7:16pm Tom Miller: Dan, thanks for your help yesterday at the Bad Princess book launch! You look good in a crown.
	7:19pm TDK60: Linda, You'd asked about shorter albums and EPs. Mini-LPs were around in the New Wave era with usually 5, 6, 7 tunes on a 10" or 12" disc. EPs were usually 7" (like 45s) with 3 or 4 maybe 5 songs. Sound right?
	7:19pm βrian: I don't know this piece by the Necks. Recent?
	7:21pm TDK60: If anyone missed Rob W.'s recent show, hear it in the archives -- great Korean music to coincide with the Olympics.
	7:27pm Dan Bodah: @Brian, that's the Necks' first record -- Sex.
	7:29pm Linda Lee: @TDK60 ~ hmm. i''m not recalling the 7" or 10" mutli-song disc too well. 12" yes. that's what I was calling an EP.
	7:30pm TDK60: LL: I think 12" isn't correct for an EP but I may be wrong.
	7:31pm Linda Lee: just going by my memory here .. admittedly not always on point :-D
	7:31pm Linda Lee: now i guess vinyl producers are doing whatever they darn well please with the medium :-)
	7:32pm Dan Bodah: @LL, yeah, I'd say an EP is any release with a few songs (usually around 5) -- not enough to be a full record (in the 35-45 min range minimally) but longer than a single w/B-side track. I'd use the term EP for that in any format (vinyl of any size, CD, cassette etc).
	7:32pm βrian: @Dan B: Thanks. I didn't realize they went that far back. Just saw them last spring in Chicago. Really excellent.
	7:32pm Dan Bodah: @Brian, yeah -- that record was out in 1989
	7:33pm Linda Lee: thanks, Dan. that's how i used the term too. didn't seem to me that the size mattered .. for once :-D
	7:33pm βrian: Their seminal "release," as it were.
	7:34pm Dan Bodah: BTW, drummer on this Sainkho Namtchylak is Sunny Murray (RIP)
	7:35pm Linda Lee: incredible recording.
	7:37pm TDK60: LL & DB: See, I didn't know that. Does this mean a mini-LP 12" is the same as a 12" EP? 45-sized 4-song EPs were common in '60s UK pop, not so much here it seemed. 7" EPs got big again in the punk/new wave era, here too.
	7:39pm Tom Miller: Still waiting for the cassingles revival though.
	7:40pm Linda Lee: @TDK60 ~ yes i think we're talking about the same thing.. mini LP = EP. do remember the multi-song 45s here too, in the 50s & 60s. generally 2 tracks per side ..
	7:41pm Linda Lee: @Tom Miller ~ actually still have a bunch of those. funny little waste of materials. :-)
	7:41pm TDK60: Now I've been set aright and maybe can sleep a full night again. MINI LPS ARE EPS!
	7:42pm Linda Lee: glad i had my memory confirmed too :-D
	7:42pm melinda: This is nice.
	7:43pm Linda Lee: it is. nice tone palette
	7:43pm TDK60: I do still have @ 700 space-taking plastic cassettes (60 or 90 m.). But the cassingle always annoyed me.
	7:46pm βrian: Boom! That must've been something.
	7:46pm Tom Miller: Boxes of cassettes by the thousands here. Occasionally I grab a handful of them and go on a bulk digitizing jag.
	7:47pm Linda Lee: cassingles: utterly unstable medium offering minimal real product .. as if cassettes weren't bad enough trash wise! :-) Shopping bags upon bags upon bags of cassettes await me at a house i've just sold .. can't imagine what to do with them, as there's nowhere to bring them to. are they worth trucking into storage? are they potential hipster-bait?
	7:48pm TDK60: Then, there's the Double Album. // Great music tonight.
	7:48pm Linda Lee: ho! the double album! or the extra-special Triple gatefold!
	🍳 7:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: @Linda Lee - I wonder if Craigslist or Ebay can help find a home for them? Maybe Pizza Box Guy knows a collector.
	7:51pm TDK60: I betcha there are mix tape fanatics needing tapes to tape over.
	7:52pm Linda Lee: @ Ken From Hyde Park ~ here in the states sales prices barely justify shipping. so much effort to list em all too. i think i'd rather just pull my own eyes out :-D
	7:53pm Linda Lee: the kids do love them in the UK. crazy for cassettes. but talk about shipping! :-)
	7:54pm TDK60: I once found a record store (2008) had thrown thousands of tapes into their dumpster. I took as many as my pack could hold, to tape over.
	7:55pm Linda Lee: wow .. what were you putting on them in 08?
	7:55pm βrian: I'd love to hear these guys do the Mah Nà Mah Nà song.
	7:56pm TDK60: Ha! Well, maybe Six Organs of Admittance, Miles, Stereolab, Fahey, the Searchers.
	7:56pm Linda Lee: question i have is, now that we have digital, what advantages do cassettes really have utiility-wise? they were great when there was nothing else to tape on .. i was part of a network that sent mixtapes all over the world .. but!
	7:58pm Linda Lee: wow .. love the Mikuskovics.
	7:59pm melinda: Me too!
	7:59pm Richard S: Cassettes don't change format. (WAV, MIDI, MP3, OGG, whatever...)
	7:59pm Kamp Climax: I can understand the cassette revival. We all recorded on Tascam 4 tracks, so it's a medium we created on, so the love for that medium is understandable. But can somebody please, I'm begging, explain to me the VHS revival, because that one completely goes over my head. I could even understand the old reels of film, but VHS?
	8:00pm TDK60: Tapes are silly. Tapes are space wasting. They should also from now on only be made of veggie fibers and sold by artisanal vendors. There should be a large warehouse archive of all tapes.
	8:00pm βrian: To say nothing of 8-track.
	8:00pm Linda Lee: there's a VHS revival? :-D is it really just a matter of tangible materials?
	8:01pm TDK60: Thanks Dan.
	10:08pm Dan Bodah: Re the conversation about tapes: there is a cardboard box in the WFMU dining room where people leave stuff, mostly old recordings, for others to take. Tonight it contained a pile of 8-tracks (I remember listening to those as a kid!) - and... an unopened jar of Nutella.

Vocal Fry with Dan Bodah: Playlist from February 12, 2018

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