WFMU: Music Of Mind Control with Micah: Playlist from November 21, 2017

Listener comments!
	5:56pm Uncle Michael: I wanna get high on life.
	6:01pm Sem Chumbo: Me 2, UM.
	6:01pm Kat in Chicago: YAYYYY
	6:01pm dale: this is very i want to buy the world a coke.
	6:02pm dale: i hope glenn hadn't boiled a bunny at that stage of her life.
	6:03pm melinda: Hi Micah and people!
	6:03pm ultradamno: Wait, is a free spirit like a passport?
	6:03pm Morgan: Hi everyone. I’m so here for this.
	6:04pm Sem Chumbo: Hello and good evening, Micah, Controlees.
	6:04pm melinda: @dale I loved that song. Especially the Christmas version where they were all out in the snow.
	6:04pm Morgan: Im continuing my so here for Pere Ubu.
	6:04pm melinda: They're no Carpenters.
	6:05pm dale: it did tug at the heart melinda.
	6:05pm Sem Chumbo: They'd be known as Up with Barns, if that were they WERE.
	6:06pm Sem Chumbo: Please ignore that minor cerebral event, affecting spelling and word order.
	6:06pm Kat in Chicago: This is some medley.
	6:07pm Tom from Maplewood: This is the type of “music” that makes heroin so appealing.
	6:07pm dale: whoever did all the staging for those cbs shows like sonny and cher and all this pap should be shot - or turned into a god for giving us larfs 40 some years later.
	6:07pm dale: will glenn be calling in? is she aware of this?
	6:08pm Jeff Moore: This is so much more horrifying than all the other cult things.
	6:08pm Pseu Braun: Up with People. Up the ass, that is.
	6:09pm dale: she has a facebook page - maybe i should share the show's link.
	6:09pm ultradamno: The future is a train? Like the light at the end of the tunnel?
	6:10pm Jeff Moore: @Pseu, that's unfair to anal penetration.
	6:10pm dale: loved your show today pseu - made my shitty floor tiling job go by less painfully
	6:11pm Jeff Moore: (all together now): Happy Thanksgiving, Micah!
	6:12pm Carmichael: Sorry, late to the mind melding. Wasn't Kenny Rogers an Up With People person?
	6:14pm Carmichael: As someone said in A Mighty Wind, "They look like a toothpaste commercial".
	6:15pm dale: was anita bryant in UWP?
	6:15pm ultradamno: It's listenable dreck, kinda.
	6:17pm Kat in Chicago: Oooh, they said "dang".
	6:17pm Listener Robert: You know, Carmichael, there was a Colgate toothpaste commercial like that. An amazing fact about it is that although it showed an enormous variety of scenery, much of it looking bucolic, it was shot entirely in New York City, because NYC is so big & scenery-diverse, it can stand for the whole country or world.
	6:18pm ultradamno: Dang? Language!
	6:18pm Mutant: Down with people I say!
	6:19pm dale: i actually like this i'm thinking tune.
	6:19pm Uncle Michael: Who here besides me was dragged to see these clowns perform when younger.
	6:19pm jkeigh: Hi Micah. I think Glen Close was
	6:19pm Jeff Moore: Dodged that bullet.
	6:20pm ultradamno: Well, he's thinking...probably not deeply but it's something
	6:20pm herb.nyc: Just tuned in. Freedom isn't free? Maybe it's dumb. (Get it?)
	6:20pm dale: any info on the writers and arrangers of this stuff micah?
	6:20pm dale: that last one coulda' been a paul williams tune.
	6:20pm jkeigh: Oh, duh it's on the cover picture. Sorry for being CPT Obvious
	6:21pm yippie: is the cult show on the radio station with manson on the billboard, not gonna play any manson this week?
	6:22pm Sem Chumbo: UM: lived on an army base at the time, saw this whole circus from the second row. Impressive. I was 9.
	6:22pm Listener John from NJ: Around 1973/74 Up With People inspired a political rebellion at Goshen College, a Mennonite school in Indiana. Goshen did not permit dancing . . . and some students weren't pleased. My wife was there and reported that when Up With People was scheduled to perform at the school, a lot of students got together and demanded the right to dance at the UWP show . . . Their protest was fruitless . . .
	6:22pm blee: I bet Ken plays some Manson tomorrow.
	6:23pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: No because Manson wasn't a cult leader...he was just a guy trying to make the world a better place...lol
	6:23pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: woof, this song is rough.
	6:23pm Listener Robert: "Freedom isn't free" is a slogan a lot of libertarian organiz'ns use. Of course often it's in the context of getting you to donate. I don't know if that's what Up With People had in mind by it, though.
	6:24pm Pseu Braun: I've been singing the Up With People theme since I saw Micah before his show today. But not as good as White Dionne here.
	6:25pm Marshall Stacks: This was recognizably crap when it was new, and it hasn't improved with age. I wonder: if they were so pro-USA, why was their HQ in Switzerland?
	6:25pm Kat in Chicago: OMG "White Dionne". Perfect.
	6:25pm yippie: theres better cheese in switzerland
	6:26pm yippie: they were doin it for the cheese
	6:26pm Sem Chumbo: @Marshall Stacks: from Wikithingy. "In 2001 the MRA movement changed its name to Initiatives of Change (IofC). A non-governmental organization based in Caux, Switzerland, Initiatives of Change International serves as the legal and administrative entity to federate the national bodies of Initiatives of Change for purposes of cooperation with the entities such as the United Nations and the Council of Europe."
	💆 6:26pm Aitch: Supplied by a lonely goatherd?
	6:26pm Marshall Stacks: Yeah, cheese was obviously very important to their sound.
	6:27pm Kat in Chicago: Wait, FMU listeners are hip?
	6:27pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: I don't like Up With People, I prefer acid rock.
	6:27pm Marselle: hey Marshall Stacks: nice avatar ;)
	6:28pm dale: there's a simpsons episode where homer questions his relationship with marge. he says 'look at these records - up with people, the doodletown pipers. NOW LOOK AT HERS!'
	6:28pm dfb: wow i saw them - they scared me.
	6:29pm yippie: janet jackson!
	6:29pm Marshall Stacks: @Sam Chumbo: Creeping one-worldism, or creepy one-worldism?
	6:29pm Listener John from NJ: Oh no -- I've heard "What color is God's skin!" May have learned it at church. In my opinion, it's not a very good song.
	6:29pm dale: maybe someone should nominate them for the rock and roll hall of fame. can we do that?
	6:29pm ultradamno: New life to fill the emptiness forever? Is that right? It sounds like what you say right before you go to meet Halle Bopp
	6:29pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: @dale I remember having my mind blown when I found out the Doodletown Pipers were a real group.
	6:29pm Carmichael: Oh m God, there STILL around: upwithpeople.org And they have an alumni page!
	6:29pm blee: Janet Jackson's "jewelry".
	6:30pm dfb: is that a triple live UWP
	6:30pm dale: they shore are adam - they shorrrrrre are.
	6:30pm yippie: she did her "wardrobe malfunction" on purpose and finally was able to top up with people's superbowl show
	6:30pm Kat in Chicago: I loved the Doodletown Pipers TV specials when I was a kid.
	6:30pm Sem Chumbo: @Marshall: founder Frank Buckman said this: "MRA is the good road of an ideology inspired by God upon which all can unite. Catholic, Jew and Protestant, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and Confucianist – all find they can change, where needed, and they can travel along this good road together." So, yeah, one-worldism, pick your adjective.
	6:31pm Marselle: wow this music is hilarious
	6:31pm dale: these are low rent osmonds.
	6:31pm (Murakami Whywolf))): Glenn Close was in U.w.P..: www.dailymail.co.uk... (Sorry to link to "The Mail",but this is mostly her quotes.) As their Wikipedia page looks well-scrubbed: www.thecrimson.com... ‘I thank Heaven for a man like Adolf Hitler, who built a front-line of defence against the anti-Christ of Communism.’—Frances Buchman, founder of M.A.
	6:31pm Marshall Stacks: Thanks, @Marselle. That was taken at my bar mitzvah.
	6:31pm Marselle: do they have a residency in Branson?
	6:31pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: This is more like it...acid rock!
	6:31pm dale: i didn't know there was a doodletown tv special.......to the youtoobs!
	6:31pm Linda Lee: it's rock without sex.
	6:32pm Kat in Chicago: Rhyming "forsooth" and "youth"
	6:32pm Carmichael: Pre ELO ....
	6:32pm Marselle: OMG THIS MOZART QUOTATION hahahahha this is horrible
	6:32pm Sem Chumbo: Rock without roll.
	6:32pm Marshall Stacks: @Murakami, look closely at the cover Micah posted.
	💆 6:32pm Aitch: It's making me anxious....
	6:32pm Marselle: im gonna overdose on the corniness
	6:33pm Linda Lee: tepid.
	6:33pm Listener John from NJ: Marselle -- you'll be high on the opium of the people.
	6:33pm blee: Now I am really hankering for some Sabbath.
	6:33pm dale: carmichael - 10 years AFTER elo's roll over beethoven
	6:33pm Marselle: Richard Nixon's favorite band prob
	6:33pm Carmichael: These guys wouldn't know rock and roll if it bit them in the ass.
	6:33pm Marselle: i can't wait for Vocal Fry to wash this out of my ears
	6:34pm dale: HA HA - this is so a mighty wind!
	6:34pm Sem Chumbo: All of this music seems like a simulacrum of the world as they see it, but they don't feel it, ya know?
	6:34pm Carmichael: This sounds like the Smothers Brothers' "Boil That Cabbage Down".
	6:34pm (((Murakami Whywolf): Up With People:Pat Boone :: Pat Boone:Little Richard At least P.B. and L.R. both worship a bleeding, tortured, god who knew that Reality is Messy—U.w.P.'s god would drown the world in mayonnaise and Order.
	6:35pm Marselle: @carmichael it also SOUNDS like the musical equivalent of boiled cabbage
	6:35pm Linda Lee: at least true folk promoted violence to the state.
	6:36pm Marselle: freedom isnt free, Linda
	6:36pm dfb: it's just another word
	6:37pm dale: only doodletown i can find on TV Varity show starring Jack Burns, Avery Schreiber, Rowlf the dog, and the Doodletown Pipers with special guest Dick Shawn. Broadcast on CBS on July 23, 1967. www.youtube.com...
	6:37pm (((Murakami Whywolf): Carmichael: Rock n roll wouldn't bite these guys on the ass.
	6:37pm Linda Lee: fiddlesticks!
	6:37pm Marselle: freedom isnt free, it costs folks like every day. and if you dont chip in, we'll never pay that bill. and if you dont put in that BUCK'O'FIVE, who will?
	6:37pm Sem Chumbo: @dale: find a torrent for that one? Love Dick Shawn.
	6:37pm Listener John from NJ: UWP inspired imitators -- groups of young people with unnatural smiles who performed similar dreck. I saw one once -- I was part of a captive audience.
	6:38pm Marselle: freedom costs a buck-o-five
	6:38pm Linda Lee: these arrangements tho. everything's just about even.
	6:38pm Kat in Chicago: This is a song about old cheese?! yippie was right!
	6:38pm ultradamno: I've seen The Osmonds (granted it was cut short on account of Jimmy getting inadvertently punched in the face during their version of Kung Fu Fighting), they were better than this. I've also seen John Schneider & The Weather Girls on the same bill, also better.
	6:39pm Linda Lee: "no matter who you are, every man can go somewhere."
	6:39pm (Murakami Whywolf))): After listening to Up with People, the Carpenters sound like punk pioneers.
	6:39pm Marselle: the Scientology Sea Org jazz records are better than this.
	6:40pm dale: this is VERY association.
	6:40pm Marselle: "and if it's square, thats cuz i LIKE IT square!" -Nixon
	6:40pm Linda Lee: the association were actually relatively dark.
	6:40pm Jeff Moore: Dissociation
	6:41pm Linda Lee: much richer harmonies though.
	6:41pm dale: i'd still like more on the writers of this stuff - it's well crafted
	6:41pm :
	6:42pm Linda Lee: razzle dazzle 'em!
	6:42pm Marselle: yikes O_O
	6:43pm dale: 70s were so obsessed with vaudville - or the old producers were anyway.
	6:43pm Marshall Stacks: "Charles" Berry outlived U.w.P.
	6:43pm Sem Chumbo: @dale: I am sure the Wrecking Crew could have cranked this stuff out, no problem.
	6:44pm Uncle Michael: what the fuck
	6:44pm Marselle: lol this soulless honkey
	6:45pm Sem Chumbo: Somebody watched Rocky Horror.
	6:45pm Linda Lee: is this camp or anti-camp?
	6:46pm Marselle: hahaha i got called out! :-D
	6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: I'm pretty sure that if you were to play these backwards, you'd still be unable to find anything fishy.
	6:47pm jkeigh: Let's form Up With People 2: (Electric Boogaloo). Who's in
	6:47pm Listener John from NJ: Micah, are you serious? You have to PAY to be a member of UWP? (That doesn't seem fair to me.)
	6:47pm Carmichael: Up With People are gone for good. Rock and Roll will never die. Just ask Neil Young.
	6:48pm Sem Chumbo: Definition of a cult: it costs you money.
	6:49pm Carmichael: At least Chuck Woolery had the good taste not to be a member.
	6:49pm Sem Chumbo: @Carm: seen that recent Joan Didion doc, by Griffin Dunne?
	6:49pm jkeigh: @ Sem And sometimes your life (and your balls)
	6:49pm dale: now they channel the cowsills....
	6:49pm Linda Lee: what a deep voice she had!
	6:49pm micah: crap this isnt the version of morning of time that glenn is singing on sorry
	6:50pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: Didn't one of the Happy Days cast members have a song called Rock N Roll Is Dead (But It Won't Lie Down)?
	6:50pm Carmichael: @Sem, no I haven't. Thanks, I will check it out. Her parents were my neighbors for decades.
	6:50pm dale: so i shared this on glenn's fb page for nothing?
	6:51pm dfb: this one chugs along
	6:51pm Linda Lee: i still love this radio show. love it. deeply.
	6:51pm Carmichael: I vastly preferred The New Christy Minstrels. And the Swingle Singers.
	6:51pm Sem Chumbo: Knew there was a connection. Gotta kick out of it.
	6:51pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: I found it, it is Donny Most. I remember Tom Scharplin played it on his show. youtu.be...
	6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park: If president* mango-head leaves office early, these will be the songs in Mike Pence's inauguration.
	6:52pm melinda: This was fun music for my drive home.
	6:52pm Linda Lee: The Swingle Singers were the berries. but not a cult (as commonly understood) ergo not eligible.
	6:52pm Linda Lee: this is the whitest funk i have ever heard in all my life.
	6:53pm Sem Chumbo: The Socerer's a Pence-ist @KfHP.
	6:53pm Marselle: @micah have you played any of the Scientology music on the show though? I'm sure you know it.
	6:53pm (((Murakami Whywolf): dale: A lot of '20s stuff in the' 60s as well, many similarities: prosperity, social change, popular illegal drugs, mass culture very important. The Depression quashed a lot of the '20s stuff; making the middle classes perpetually afraid did for much of the' 60s. (I think it was T.R.W,. who answered 'What caused the Damn Sixties?' with 'People stopped being afraid of poverty and acted as if they might have rights.'. ) "Winchester Cathedral", "Enery the Heighth", Tiny Tim's &oelig;uvre, "Some Like It Hot", (some of the '60s began in the late' 50s),Weimar nostalgia,
	6:53pm Listener Robert: Rock & roll can't die because there'll always be something CALLED that. It's immortal in the same way as The Phantom, The Ghost Who Walks.
	6:54pm Carmichael: Channeling David Clayton Thomas.
	6:54pm dale: yeah, donny most and anson williams both thought they were pop stars. donny is still out there singing.
	6:54pm micah: THIS IS GLENN
	6:55pm Carmichael: The world is Glenn's hometown.
	6:55pm Uncle Michael: I don't know about the rest of you, but I've certainly been scared straight.
	6:56pm dale: makes sense murakami
	6:56pm Linda Lee: this girl's got something special.
	6:56pm jkeigh: I'm up and dancing like Beavis and Butthead
	6:56pm Sem Chumbo: Glenn was looking forward to the future and saw the big chill.
	6:56pm Marselle: poor Glenn Close. i never knew she was in a weird ass WASP cult
	6:56pm Carmichael: No more rock n roll for me. From now on, it's wholesome all the way. Where's my blazer??
	6:57pm dale: i always thought the osmonds obsession with down the lazy river was just because they sang what their elders told them to
	6:57pm Sem Chumbo: I pine for Bobby and Sissy.
	6:57pm Linda Lee: can't deny the mainstreaming of camp in the 70s, kids. & camp loved vaudeville.
	6:58pm (Murakami Whywolf))): Less certain, but I've seen the claim that M.A. was tight with the Gehlen Apparat, the C.I.A.'s supposedly pet supposedly-ex—Nazis…who were riddled with Soviet assets, but great at getting S.S. types to Argentina, Portugal, Paraguay, and Irak. (This is the stuff about which Dave Emery is fairly sound.)
	6:58pm Uncle Michael: This is making a rafter of Thanksgiving turkeys ring.
	6:58pm Carmichael: Is it weird to pine for Mr. French?
	6:58pm melinda: It's weird looking at the dates for these songs and thinking about how long they lasted.
	6:59pm Sem Chumbo: Mr. Cabot was a beard among men.
	6:59pm Marselle: ugh this terrible harmonizing. kill me already
	6:59pm Listener John from NJ: Is this the same Moral Rearmament that was a movement (in the UK) after World War I ?
	6:59pm Linda Lee: far too long since i checked in with Dave Emery.
	6:59pm ultradamno: Moving into Hi-Lo's territory
	6:59pm Carmichael: This last hour has made me angry at the staying power of vinyl ...
	6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Micah. Bring 'em back next year!
	7:00pm Listener John from NJ: Thank you, Micah!
	7:00pm melinda: Thanks Micah!
	7:00pm Sem Chumbo: @Listener J. Yes. The wikipedia page has been very very whitewashed.
	7:00pm Linda Lee: Happy Holiday Micah!
	7:00pm Kat in Chicago: I'm thankful for Micah
	7:00pm (((Murakami Whywolf): Carmichael: Blaze a few before you commit to the blazer. My thesis: the early/mid-'60s were so weird the drugs were a valiant attempt to adapt.
	7:00pm dale: good show - i'm not going to touch myself anymore.
	7:00pm Uncle Michael: Thanks, Micah.
	7:14pm common: great
	9:20am annie: micah, i love what you said about the international aspect of these people and how they promoted the "Love thy neighbor" thing. i wanted to join them so badly.. thanks for this show. <3

Music Of Mind Control with Micah: Playlist from November 21, 2017

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November 21, 2017: Up With People Thanksgiving Party

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Approx. start time
up with people	sing medley "sing medley" by "up with people"	cbs tv special	1973	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
up with people	ready or not people are the energy	people are the energy	1979	0:06:20 (Pop-up)

up with people	freedom isnt free "freedom isnt free" by "up with people"	in hollywood	1967	0:14:08 (Pop-up)
up with people	thinking about the days ahead	s/t	1970	0:16:17 (Pop-up)
up with people	livin' on "livin' on" by "up with people"	livin' on	1974	0:18:43 (Pop-up)
up with people	ashes "ashes" by "up with people"	3	1968	0:21:07 (Pop-up)

up with people	mozart rocks "mozart rocks" by "up with people"	live in concert	1983	0:28:35 (Pop-up)
up with people	dont stand still "dont stand still" by "up with people"	the sing out musical	1966	0:31:23 (Pop-up)
up with people	gammalost "gammalost" by "up with people"	let all the people in	1971	0:33:15 (Pop-up)
up with people	you are what you do	s/t	1970	0:36:50 (Pop-up)
up with people	rock n roll is gone for good	people are the energy	1979	0:40:05 (Pop-up)

up with people	morning of time "morning of time" by "up with people"	st	1970	0:47:07 (Pop-up)
up with people	perpetual motion machine	push on through	1977	0:49:42 (Pop-up)
up with people	Gee Im looking forward to the future	3	1968	0:53:17 (Pop-up)
up with people	let the rafters ring	in hollywood	1967	0:56:01 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	5:56pm Uncle Michael: I wanna get high on life.
	6:01pm Sem Chumbo: Me 2, UM.
	6:01pm Kat in Chicago: YAYYYY
	6:01pm dale: this is very i want to buy the world a coke.
	6:02pm dale: i hope glenn hadn't boiled a bunny at that stage of her life.
	6:03pm melinda: Hi Micah and people!
	6:03pm ultradamno: Wait, is a free spirit like a passport?
	6:03pm Morgan: Hi everyone. I’m so here for this.
	6:04pm Sem Chumbo: Hello and good evening, Micah, Controlees.
	6:04pm melinda: @dale I loved that song. Especially the Christmas version where they were all out in the snow.
	6:04pm Morgan: Im continuing my so here for Pere Ubu.
	6:04pm melinda: They're no Carpenters.
	6:05pm dale: it did tug at the heart melinda.
	6:05pm Sem Chumbo: They'd be known as Up with Barns, if that were they WERE.
	6:06pm Sem Chumbo: Please ignore that minor cerebral event, affecting spelling and word order.
	6:06pm Kat in Chicago: This is some medley.
	6:07pm Tom from Maplewood: This is the type of “music” that makes heroin so appealing.
	6:07pm dale: whoever did all the staging for those cbs shows like sonny and cher and all this pap should be shot - or turned into a god for giving us larfs 40 some years later.
	6:07pm dale: will glenn be calling in? is she aware of this?
	6:08pm Jeff Moore: This is so much more horrifying than all the other cult things.
	6:08pm Pseu Braun: Up with People. Up the ass, that is.
	6:09pm dale: she has a facebook page - maybe i should share the show's link.
	6:09pm ultradamno: The future is a train? Like the light at the end of the tunnel?
	6:10pm Jeff Moore: @Pseu, that's unfair to anal penetration.
	6:10pm dale: loved your show today pseu - made my shitty floor tiling job go by less painfully
	6:11pm Jeff Moore: (all together now): Happy Thanksgiving, Micah!
	6:12pm Carmichael: Sorry, late to the mind melding. Wasn't Kenny Rogers an Up With People person?
	6:14pm Carmichael: As someone said in A Mighty Wind, "They look like a toothpaste commercial".
	6:15pm dale: was anita bryant in UWP?
	6:15pm ultradamno: It's listenable dreck, kinda.
	6:17pm Kat in Chicago: Oooh, they said "dang".
	6:17pm Listener Robert: You know, Carmichael, there was a Colgate toothpaste commercial like that. An amazing fact about it is that although it showed an enormous variety of scenery, much of it looking bucolic, it was shot entirely in New York City, because NYC is so big & scenery-diverse, it can stand for the whole country or world.
	6:18pm ultradamno: Dang? Language!
	6:18pm Mutant: Down with people I say!
	6:19pm dale: i actually like this i'm thinking tune.
	6:19pm Uncle Michael: Who here besides me was dragged to see these clowns perform when younger.
	6:19pm jkeigh: Hi Micah. I think Glen Close was
	6:19pm Jeff Moore: Dodged that bullet.
	6:20pm ultradamno: Well, he's thinking...probably not deeply but it's something
	6:20pm herb.nyc: Just tuned in. Freedom isn't free? Maybe it's dumb. (Get it?)
	6:20pm dale: any info on the writers and arrangers of this stuff micah?
	6:20pm dale: that last one coulda' been a paul williams tune.
	6:20pm jkeigh: Oh, duh it's on the cover picture. Sorry for being CPT Obvious
	6:21pm yippie: is the cult show on the radio station with manson on the billboard, not gonna play any manson this week?
	6:22pm Sem Chumbo: UM: lived on an army base at the time, saw this whole circus from the second row. Impressive. I was 9.
	6:22pm Listener John from NJ: Around 1973/74 Up With People inspired a political rebellion at Goshen College, a Mennonite school in Indiana. Goshen did not permit dancing . . . and some students weren't pleased. My wife was there and reported that when Up With People was scheduled to perform at the school, a lot of students got together and demanded the right to dance at the UWP show . . . Their protest was fruitless . . .
	6:22pm blee: I bet Ken plays some Manson tomorrow.
	6:23pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: No because Manson wasn't a cult leader...he was just a guy trying to make the world a better place...lol
	6:23pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: woof, this song is rough.
	6:23pm Listener Robert: "Freedom isn't free" is a slogan a lot of libertarian organiz'ns use. Of course often it's in the context of getting you to donate. I don't know if that's what Up With People had in mind by it, though.
	6:24pm Pseu Braun: I've been singing the Up With People theme since I saw Micah before his show today. But not as good as White Dionne here.
	6:25pm Marshall Stacks: This was recognizably crap when it was new, and it hasn't improved with age. I wonder: if they were so pro-USA, why was their HQ in Switzerland?
	6:25pm Kat in Chicago: OMG "White Dionne". Perfect.
	6:25pm yippie: theres better cheese in switzerland
	6:26pm yippie: they were doin it for the cheese
	6:26pm Sem Chumbo: @Marshall Stacks: from Wikithingy. "In 2001 the MRA movement changed its name to Initiatives of Change (IofC). A non-governmental organization based in Caux, Switzerland, Initiatives of Change International serves as the legal and administrative entity to federate the national bodies of Initiatives of Change for purposes of cooperation with the entities such as the United Nations and the Council of Europe."
	💆 6:26pm Aitch: Supplied by a lonely goatherd?
	6:26pm Marshall Stacks: Yeah, cheese was obviously very important to their sound.
	6:27pm Kat in Chicago: Wait, FMU listeners are hip?
	6:27pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: I don't like Up With People, I prefer acid rock.
	6:27pm Marselle: hey Marshall Stacks: nice avatar ;)
	6:28pm dale: there's a simpsons episode where homer questions his relationship with marge. he says 'look at these records - up with people, the doodletown pipers. NOW LOOK AT HERS!'
	6:28pm dfb: wow i saw them - they scared me.
	6:29pm yippie: janet jackson!
	6:29pm Marshall Stacks: @Sam Chumbo: Creeping one-worldism, or creepy one-worldism?
	6:29pm Listener John from NJ: Oh no -- I've heard "What color is God's skin!" May have learned it at church. In my opinion, it's not a very good song.
	6:29pm dale: maybe someone should nominate them for the rock and roll hall of fame. can we do that?
	6:29pm ultradamno: New life to fill the emptiness forever? Is that right? It sounds like what you say right before you go to meet Halle Bopp
	6:29pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: @dale I remember having my mind blown when I found out the Doodletown Pipers were a real group.
	6:29pm Carmichael: Oh m God, there STILL around: upwithpeople.org And they have an alumni page!
	6:29pm blee: Janet Jackson's "jewelry".
	6:30pm dfb: is that a triple live UWP
	6:30pm dale: they shore are adam - they shorrrrrre are.
	6:30pm yippie: she did her "wardrobe malfunction" on purpose and finally was able to top up with people's superbowl show
	6:30pm Kat in Chicago: I loved the Doodletown Pipers TV specials when I was a kid.
	6:30pm Sem Chumbo: @Marshall: founder Frank Buckman said this: "MRA is the good road of an ideology inspired by God upon which all can unite. Catholic, Jew and Protestant, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and Confucianist – all find they can change, where needed, and they can travel along this good road together." So, yeah, one-worldism, pick your adjective.
	6:31pm Marselle: wow this music is hilarious
	6:31pm dale: these are low rent osmonds.
	6:31pm (Murakami Whywolf))): Glenn Close was in U.w.P..: www.dailymail.co.uk... (Sorry to link to "The Mail",but this is mostly her quotes.) As their Wikipedia page looks well-scrubbed: www.thecrimson.com... ‘I thank Heaven for a man like Adolf Hitler, who built a front-line of defence against the anti-Christ of Communism.’—Frances Buchman, founder of M.A.
	6:31pm Marshall Stacks: Thanks, @Marselle. That was taken at my bar mitzvah.
	6:31pm Marselle: do they have a residency in Branson?
	6:31pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: This is more like it...acid rock!
	6:31pm dale: i didn't know there was a doodletown tv special.......to the youtoobs!
	6:31pm Linda Lee: it's rock without sex.
	6:32pm Kat in Chicago: Rhyming "forsooth" and "youth"
	6:32pm Carmichael: Pre ELO ....
	6:32pm Marselle: OMG THIS MOZART QUOTATION hahahahha this is horrible
	6:32pm Sem Chumbo: Rock without roll.
	6:32pm Marshall Stacks: @Murakami, look closely at the cover Micah posted.
	💆 6:32pm Aitch: It's making me anxious....
	6:32pm Marselle: im gonna overdose on the corniness
	6:33pm Linda Lee: tepid.
	6:33pm Listener John from NJ: Marselle -- you'll be high on the opium of the people.
	6:33pm blee: Now I am really hankering for some Sabbath.
	6:33pm dale: carmichael - 10 years AFTER elo's roll over beethoven
	6:33pm Marselle: Richard Nixon's favorite band prob
	6:33pm Carmichael: These guys wouldn't know rock and roll if it bit them in the ass.
	6:33pm Marselle: i can't wait for Vocal Fry to wash this out of my ears
	6:34pm dale: HA HA - this is so a mighty wind!
	6:34pm Sem Chumbo: All of this music seems like a simulacrum of the world as they see it, but they don't feel it, ya know?
	6:34pm Carmichael: This sounds like the Smothers Brothers' "Boil That Cabbage Down".
	6:34pm (((Murakami Whywolf): Up With People:Pat Boone :: Pat Boone:Little Richard At least P.B. and L.R. both worship a bleeding, tortured, god who knew that Reality is Messy—U.w.P.'s god would drown the world in mayonnaise and Order.
	6:35pm Marselle: @carmichael it also SOUNDS like the musical equivalent of boiled cabbage
	6:35pm Linda Lee: at least true folk promoted violence to the state.
	6:36pm Marselle: freedom isnt free, Linda
	6:36pm dfb: it's just another word
	6:37pm dale: only doodletown i can find on TV Varity show starring Jack Burns, Avery Schreiber, Rowlf the dog, and the Doodletown Pipers with special guest Dick Shawn. Broadcast on CBS on July 23, 1967. www.youtube.com...
	6:37pm (((Murakami Whywolf): Carmichael: Rock n roll wouldn't bite these guys on the ass.
	6:37pm Linda Lee: fiddlesticks!
	6:37pm Marselle: freedom isnt free, it costs folks like every day. and if you dont chip in, we'll never pay that bill. and if you dont put in that BUCK'O'FIVE, who will?
	6:37pm Sem Chumbo: @dale: find a torrent for that one? Love Dick Shawn.
	6:37pm Listener John from NJ: UWP inspired imitators -- groups of young people with unnatural smiles who performed similar dreck. I saw one once -- I was part of a captive audience.
	6:38pm Marselle: freedom costs a buck-o-five
	6:38pm Linda Lee: these arrangements tho. everything's just about even.
	6:38pm Kat in Chicago: This is a song about old cheese?! yippie was right!
	6:38pm ultradamno: I've seen The Osmonds (granted it was cut short on account of Jimmy getting inadvertently punched in the face during their version of Kung Fu Fighting), they were better than this. I've also seen John Schneider & The Weather Girls on the same bill, also better.
	6:39pm Linda Lee: "no matter who you are, every man can go somewhere."
	6:39pm (Murakami Whywolf))): After listening to Up with People, the Carpenters sound like punk pioneers.
	6:39pm Marselle: the Scientology Sea Org jazz records are better than this.
	6:40pm dale: this is VERY association.
	6:40pm Marselle: "and if it's square, thats cuz i LIKE IT square!" -Nixon
	6:40pm Linda Lee: the association were actually relatively dark.
	6:40pm Jeff Moore: Dissociation
	6:41pm Linda Lee: much richer harmonies though.
	6:41pm dale: i'd still like more on the writers of this stuff - it's well crafted
	6:41pm :
	6:42pm Linda Lee: razzle dazzle 'em!
	6:42pm Marselle: yikes O_O
	6:43pm dale: 70s were so obsessed with vaudville - or the old producers were anyway.
	6:43pm Marshall Stacks: "Charles" Berry outlived U.w.P.
	6:43pm Sem Chumbo: @dale: I am sure the Wrecking Crew could have cranked this stuff out, no problem.
	6:44pm Uncle Michael: what the fuck
	6:44pm Marselle: lol this soulless honkey
	6:45pm Sem Chumbo: Somebody watched Rocky Horror.
	6:45pm Linda Lee: is this camp or anti-camp?
	6:46pm Marselle: hahaha i got called out! :-D
	6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: I'm pretty sure that if you were to play these backwards, you'd still be unable to find anything fishy.
	6:47pm jkeigh: Let's form Up With People 2: (Electric Boogaloo). Who's in
	6:47pm Listener John from NJ: Micah, are you serious? You have to PAY to be a member of UWP? (That doesn't seem fair to me.)
	6:47pm Carmichael: Up With People are gone for good. Rock and Roll will never die. Just ask Neil Young.
	6:48pm Sem Chumbo: Definition of a cult: it costs you money.
	6:49pm Carmichael: At least Chuck Woolery had the good taste not to be a member.
	6:49pm Sem Chumbo: @Carm: seen that recent Joan Didion doc, by Griffin Dunne?
	6:49pm jkeigh: @ Sem And sometimes your life (and your balls)
	6:49pm dale: now they channel the cowsills....
	6:49pm Linda Lee: what a deep voice she had!
	6:49pm micah: crap this isnt the version of morning of time that glenn is singing on sorry
	6:50pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: Didn't one of the Happy Days cast members have a song called Rock N Roll Is Dead (But It Won't Lie Down)?
	6:50pm Carmichael: @Sem, no I haven't. Thanks, I will check it out. Her parents were my neighbors for decades.
	6:50pm dale: so i shared this on glenn's fb page for nothing?
	6:51pm dfb: this one chugs along
	6:51pm Linda Lee: i still love this radio show. love it. deeply.
	6:51pm Carmichael: I vastly preferred The New Christy Minstrels. And the Swingle Singers.
	6:51pm Sem Chumbo: Knew there was a connection. Gotta kick out of it.
	6:51pm AdamFromOldeKenzo: I found it, it is Donny Most. I remember Tom Scharplin played it on his show. youtu.be...
	6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park: If president* mango-head leaves office early, these will be the songs in Mike Pence's inauguration.
	6:52pm melinda: This was fun music for my drive home.
	6:52pm Linda Lee: The Swingle Singers were the berries. but not a cult (as commonly understood) ergo not eligible.
	6:52pm Linda Lee: this is the whitest funk i have ever heard in all my life.
	6:53pm Sem Chumbo: The Socerer's a Pence-ist @KfHP.
	6:53pm Marselle: @micah have you played any of the Scientology music on the show though? I'm sure you know it.
	6:53pm (((Murakami Whywolf): dale: A lot of '20s stuff in the' 60s as well, many similarities: prosperity, social change, popular illegal drugs, mass culture very important. The Depression quashed a lot of the '20s stuff; making the middle classes perpetually afraid did for much of the' 60s. (I think it was T.R.W,. who answered 'What caused the Damn Sixties?' with 'People stopped being afraid of poverty and acted as if they might have rights.'. ) "Winchester Cathedral", "Enery the Heighth", Tiny Tim's &oelig;uvre, "Some Like It Hot", (some of the '60s began in the late' 50s),Weimar nostalgia,
	6:53pm Listener Robert: Rock & roll can't die because there'll always be something CALLED that. It's immortal in the same way as The Phantom, The Ghost Who Walks.
	6:54pm Carmichael: Channeling David Clayton Thomas.
	6:54pm dale: yeah, donny most and anson williams both thought they were pop stars. donny is still out there singing.
	6:54pm micah: THIS IS GLENN
	6:55pm Carmichael: The world is Glenn's hometown.
	6:55pm Uncle Michael: I don't know about the rest of you, but I've certainly been scared straight.
	6:56pm dale: makes sense murakami
	6:56pm Linda Lee: this girl's got something special.
	6:56pm jkeigh: I'm up and dancing like Beavis and Butthead
	6:56pm Sem Chumbo: Glenn was looking forward to the future and saw the big chill.
	6:56pm Marselle: poor Glenn Close. i never knew she was in a weird ass WASP cult
	6:56pm Carmichael: No more rock n roll for me. From now on, it's wholesome all the way. Where's my blazer??
	6:57pm dale: i always thought the osmonds obsession with down the lazy river was just because they sang what their elders told them to
	6:57pm Sem Chumbo: I pine for Bobby and Sissy.
	6:57pm Linda Lee: can't deny the mainstreaming of camp in the 70s, kids. & camp loved vaudeville.
	6:58pm (Murakami Whywolf))): Less certain, but I've seen the claim that M.A. was tight with the Gehlen Apparat, the C.I.A.'s supposedly pet supposedly-ex—Nazis…who were riddled with Soviet assets, but great at getting S.S. types to Argentina, Portugal, Paraguay, and Irak. (This is the stuff about which Dave Emery is fairly sound.)
	6:58pm Uncle Michael: This is making a rafter of Thanksgiving turkeys ring.
	6:58pm Carmichael: Is it weird to pine for Mr. French?
	6:58pm melinda: It's weird looking at the dates for these songs and thinking about how long they lasted.
	6:59pm Sem Chumbo: Mr. Cabot was a beard among men.
	6:59pm Marselle: ugh this terrible harmonizing. kill me already
	6:59pm Listener John from NJ: Is this the same Moral Rearmament that was a movement (in the UK) after World War I ?
	6:59pm Linda Lee: far too long since i checked in with Dave Emery.
	6:59pm ultradamno: Moving into Hi-Lo's territory
	6:59pm Carmichael: This last hour has made me angry at the staying power of vinyl ...
	6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Micah. Bring 'em back next year!
	7:00pm Listener John from NJ: Thank you, Micah!
	7:00pm melinda: Thanks Micah!
	7:00pm Sem Chumbo: @Listener J. Yes. The wikipedia page has been very very whitewashed.
	7:00pm Linda Lee: Happy Holiday Micah!
	7:00pm Kat in Chicago: I'm thankful for Micah
	7:00pm (((Murakami Whywolf): Carmichael: Blaze a few before you commit to the blazer. My thesis: the early/mid-'60s were so weird the drugs were a valiant attempt to adapt.
	7:00pm dale: good show - i'm not going to touch myself anymore.
	7:00pm Uncle Michael: Thanks, Micah.
	7:14pm common: great
	9:20am annie: micah, i love what you said about the international aspect of these people and how they promoted the "Love thy neighbor" thing. i wanted to join them so badly.. thanks for this show. <3

Music Of Mind Control with Micah: Playlist from November 21, 2017

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