WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 20, 2017

Listener comments!
	5:59pm listener james from westwood: Hey hey, Mark and Cheyenne and all!
	6:01pm geezerette: what the great L James FW said!
	6:02pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Hey first time listener long time techie
	6:02pm melinda: Hola
	6:03pm Cheyenne: Oh hey everyone! Nice to see y'all!
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Cheyenne!
	6:04pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Oh this is why she isn't doing the listening party this week
	6:04pm Number Six: Good Evening, Mark, Cheyenne & All!
	6:06pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Oh we didn't tell him about that grant from apple
	6:07pm geezerette: Kenzo is brilliant.
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Yes, it was the first live ios radio feed, before there were user-created apps, using a trick with Safari and the way it played streamed quicktime movies.
	6:09pm northguineahills: I remember reading about WFMU in the Wire in 1998 when in college, and my office had great (at the time) bandwidth and I was able to get the tinny sound of WFMU in FL and Monica was playing, I've been addicted ever since, and then got to move to NYC and play at WFMU.
	6:09pm geezerette: The Whole Earth Catalogue was the analogue ancestor to the web.
	🤖 6:10pm Webhamster Henry: There are also podcasts that aren't streamed! as well as much of the radio broad/stream cast since 2000 in the archives.
	6:10pm Jeff Moore: Webhamster Henry was there during WFMU's first primordial online times, helping push the state of the art.
	6:10pm northguineahills: Howdeez Mark and Cheyenne!
	6:11pm northguineahills: So, I've been listening to WFMU online for 19 years.
	🤖 6:11pm Webhamster Henry: I didn't do that quicktime trick - that was some other friendly dot-com company, but I did write the first WFMU and JM/AM iOS apps.
	6:11pm geezerette: .Thank you, Webhamster Henry!
	6:11pm northguineahills: what geezerette said.
	6:12pm common: fine work, webhampster
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: Hi all! Henry! Aaron! Westwood! Geezerette! Northgh! Common!
	6:14pm listener james from westwood: Oh. dang, now I'll never speak to that representative about my insurance claim...
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: WFMU was streaming before apps, though, via a satellite link to audionet. Some of my old web pages are still around from then like this one from 1997: www.wfmu.org...
	6:17pm listener james from westwood: I could see a Claymation video for this in which the caller slowly ties themselves into knots, or maybe just melts over the course of 15 minutes into a broad pool.
	6:20pm northguineahills: Webhamster Henry: Yep, that was about 7 months before I discovered the WFMU stream in the wild.
	6:20pm geezerette: www.youtube.com... Sita Sings The Blues is a great example of the Creative Commons.
	6:21pm ultradamno: I saw that movie at IIFF. Good stuff
	6:22pm geezerette: Thanks, Mark and Cheyenne for this discussion.
	6:22pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Were you involved in the creation of playlist comments Henry?
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: Good call, geezerette!
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: True WFMU out-of-towners used the special Bell Labs phone number, set up by WFMU fan/volunteer Brian Redmond, that was could be called into from anywhere.
	6:24pm geezerette: @ultradamno, :) ! thanks, James!
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: The main WFMU playlist system and modern marathon system and a few other things are all from Kenzo, who you can hear on the Give the Drummer Stream.
	6:25pm Aaron in Minneapolis: I'm just looking for someone to blame
	🤖 6:27pm Webhamster Henry: Indeed, Mic In Track was a whole genre, sui generis!
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: Who has a question for Cheyenne? Post it here or I'll open up to calls soon at 201-209-9368.
	🤖 6:28pm Webhamster Henry: Stark Effect: Know for Bunnyrabbits, Satan, Cheese , and Milk. (well, probably Seitan, but that's not as exciting).
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: Cheyenne: talk about a few of the FMA contests, like the Birthday Song!
	6:29pm Aaron in Minneapolis: How many grey hairs have you gotten since taking this job?
	6:30pm geezerette: so funny!
	6:31pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Does the fma accept whole podcasts?
	6:32pm Phil with the phone: ayy that's me
	6:32pm Phil with the phone: Call in at 201-209-9368!
	6:32pm Listener Robert: Today on Reason's Hit & Run blog, they put up a "Reason TV" video with a FMA credit in the text.
	🤖 6:32pm Bas NL: I got the FMA shirt! ;)
	6:33pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Phil them in
	6:35pm northguineahills: All of the good shows that I want to call into happen when I'm at work about to leave work.,
	6:35pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Stay and call in
	6:35pm ultradamno: I have a listening party shirt
	🤖 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: Here is the way to the FMA Listening Party: www.wfmu.org... Tuesdays at 3PM Eastern Time on the Drummer Stream.
	6:39pm Jeff Moore: My favorite song from the birthday contest, which I insist on playing over and over whenever I have a birthday, is Foul Mouthed Birthday Robot by A-1 Mr. Son: freemusicarchive.org...
	6:40pm northguineahills: Ken, doing the universe's good work, (and Webhamster Henry)
	6:41pm Cheyenne: Jeff, I love it too but the song is not RADIO FRIENDLY!!! But really, everyone should hear it at least once.
	6:41pm northguineahills: Creating a database and a geoserver has been fun (never created a geoserver before) I'm not used to being the 'IT' guy.
	6:41pm herb.nyc: By coincidence, my laptop won't let me use it. Doesn't like the password. I may toss laptop out the window to get last laugh. (Ouch)
	6:43pm northguineahills: Going to a performance art/noise/bedroom lo-fi/and a robot dance party from an artist from NYC (I can't remember her name, and I'm not infecting my phone or work computer w/ FB to remember).
	6:44pm melinda: Just now seeing the Google screen image. Hahaha.
	🤖 6:45pm Ken From Hyde Park: Whee! How timely! My mail today had the FMA sticker, designed by Mayuko, one of the premiums from the last FMA fund drive. Thank you, Cheyenne and everyone!
	🤖 6:45pm Folsom: VISITORS looks like someone from a Michel Fiffe drawing.
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: That's funny I was going to ask if anyone was using the FMA as Machine Learning Training information!
	6:48pm Phil with the phone: We're taking calls for a few more minutes! 201-209-9368!
	6:48pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Hey I am on my laptop now, hence the profile pic
	🤖 6:49pm Webhamster Henry: Are there a lot of international submissions? if so, are there legal subtleties in the copyrights?
	6:52pm northguineahills: I don't mind infecting my home laptop w/ FB, as I can mitigate what happens there. (I don't have enough time to do that at work).
	🤖 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: I like how Liz Berg would include lots of FMA selections on her show.
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: Here are some genres of WFMU tracks! wfmu.org...
	6:54pm Aaron in Minneapolis: I miss Liz
	6:55pm listener james from westwood: Yes, Liz was always great for sampling that huge trove. Miss the hell out of her. All the more vital that Cheyenne is giving us a great hour's dose each week!
	🤖 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: And when you play an FMA song - you don't get an ad first!
	6:55pm northguineahills: Thanks Mark and Cheyenne and WoofMooers!
	6:55pm geezerette: This show needs two hours. Thanks, Mark, Cheyenne and all!
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Cheyenne!
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark & Cheyenne!
	6:56pm melinda: Thanks!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Appreciate you all joining us.
	6:59pm Cheyenne: Thanks y'all!!!
	6:59pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Cheyenne and Mark!
	🤖 7:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Just opened a Google tab and it _does_ fill in "your" data. Wow.
	7:16pm Aitch: Great show. I showed my daughter some of this stuff (15). She can now do two notes at once, she wants to learn it, amazing.
	7:48pm oogoo: I love this stuff. I adore Meredith Monk. But given her contemporaies in Brooklyn, Quens, and the Bronx, who scratched records and improvised their lyrical beats, and became an international phenomenon, you have to wonder how to determine who truly created someting phenomenal and authentic, and who was lost in solopsism. Or more importantly. How a successful artistic platform was promoted and marginslized simultaneously, a form of course found ed by poor brown skin kids willing to dig the dirt and create and a Macarthur Grant Winner who is in essence completely forgotton. Who is the real authentic cultural purveyor and how is marginalization determined. Rich and forgotten, or exploited and exhausted. Clearly bets were lost. Meredith verse the boro of the Bronx. I don't think there was any contest. Cultural was out of her reach. And genuine trends were exploited, cheapened, and exhausted.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 20, 2017

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Mon. Nov 4th, 6pm - 7pm: Dystopia update (More info...)
Chatbots are now running rampant - appearing in new-model cars - as we're being told to "be nice to chatbots." Stores are using "digital price tags," which rely on surveillance to set the price to the company's liking. Meantime, Google's AI is giving wrong answers, in some cases, almost half the time. All these and more in Mark's dystopia update.
Mon. Dec 23rd, 6pm - 7pm: Don Fleming guest hosts Techtonic

November 20, 2017: Cheyenne Hohman, director of the Free Music Archive

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Artist	Track	Approx. start time
Mark interviews Cheyenne Hohman, director of the Free Music Archive - a WFMU project that proves it's possible to create an online project that serves the online community for good - without surveillance or creepiness.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
Corp	Your Call Is Important To Us	0:10:31 (Pop-up)
	Mark's Interview with Cheyenne Hohman, director of Free Music Archive	0:13:34 (Pop-up)
Stark Effect	Stop I'm Watching TV	0:25:45 (Pop-up)
VISITORS	Rocket Science "Rocket Science" by "VISITORS"	0:39:44 (Pop-up)
Armageddon Gospel Revival	Teenage Girl Ghoul A Go-Go	0:57:34 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	5:59pm listener james from westwood: Hey hey, Mark and Cheyenne and all!
	6:01pm geezerette: what the great L James FW said!
	6:02pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Hey first time listener long time techie
	6:02pm melinda: Hola
	6:03pm Cheyenne: Oh hey everyone! Nice to see y'all!
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Cheyenne!
	6:04pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Oh this is why she isn't doing the listening party this week
	6:04pm Number Six: Good Evening, Mark, Cheyenne & All!
	6:06pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Oh we didn't tell him about that grant from apple
	6:07pm geezerette: Kenzo is brilliant.
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Yes, it was the first live ios radio feed, before there were user-created apps, using a trick with Safari and the way it played streamed quicktime movies.
	6:09pm northguineahills: I remember reading about WFMU in the Wire in 1998 when in college, and my office had great (at the time) bandwidth and I was able to get the tinny sound of WFMU in FL and Monica was playing, I've been addicted ever since, and then got to move to NYC and play at WFMU.
	6:09pm geezerette: The Whole Earth Catalogue was the analogue ancestor to the web.
	🤖 6:10pm Webhamster Henry: There are also podcasts that aren't streamed! as well as much of the radio broad/stream cast since 2000 in the archives.
	6:10pm Jeff Moore: Webhamster Henry was there during WFMU's first primordial online times, helping push the state of the art.
	6:10pm northguineahills: Howdeez Mark and Cheyenne!
	6:11pm northguineahills: So, I've been listening to WFMU online for 19 years.
	🤖 6:11pm Webhamster Henry: I didn't do that quicktime trick - that was some other friendly dot-com company, but I did write the first WFMU and JM/AM iOS apps.
	6:11pm geezerette: .Thank you, Webhamster Henry!
	6:11pm northguineahills: what geezerette said.
	6:12pm common: fine work, webhampster
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: Hi all! Henry! Aaron! Westwood! Geezerette! Northgh! Common!
	6:14pm listener james from westwood: Oh. dang, now I'll never speak to that representative about my insurance claim...
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: WFMU was streaming before apps, though, via a satellite link to audionet. Some of my old web pages are still around from then like this one from 1997: www.wfmu.org...
	6:17pm listener james from westwood: I could see a Claymation video for this in which the caller slowly ties themselves into knots, or maybe just melts over the course of 15 minutes into a broad pool.
	6:20pm northguineahills: Webhamster Henry: Yep, that was about 7 months before I discovered the WFMU stream in the wild.
	6:20pm geezerette: www.youtube.com... Sita Sings The Blues is a great example of the Creative Commons.
	6:21pm ultradamno: I saw that movie at IIFF. Good stuff
	6:22pm geezerette: Thanks, Mark and Cheyenne for this discussion.
	6:22pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Were you involved in the creation of playlist comments Henry?
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: Good call, geezerette!
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: True WFMU out-of-towners used the special Bell Labs phone number, set up by WFMU fan/volunteer Brian Redmond, that was could be called into from anywhere.
	6:24pm geezerette: @ultradamno, :) ! thanks, James!
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: The main WFMU playlist system and modern marathon system and a few other things are all from Kenzo, who you can hear on the Give the Drummer Stream.
	6:25pm Aaron in Minneapolis: I'm just looking for someone to blame
	🤖 6:27pm Webhamster Henry: Indeed, Mic In Track was a whole genre, sui generis!
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: Who has a question for Cheyenne? Post it here or I'll open up to calls soon at 201-209-9368.
	🤖 6:28pm Webhamster Henry: Stark Effect: Know for Bunnyrabbits, Satan, Cheese , and Milk. (well, probably Seitan, but that's not as exciting).
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: Cheyenne: talk about a few of the FMA contests, like the Birthday Song!
	6:29pm Aaron in Minneapolis: How many grey hairs have you gotten since taking this job?
	6:30pm geezerette: so funny!
	6:31pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Does the fma accept whole podcasts?
	6:32pm Phil with the phone: ayy that's me
	6:32pm Phil with the phone: Call in at 201-209-9368!
	6:32pm Listener Robert: Today on Reason's Hit & Run blog, they put up a "Reason TV" video with a FMA credit in the text.
	🤖 6:32pm Bas NL: I got the FMA shirt! ;)
	6:33pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Phil them in
	6:35pm northguineahills: All of the good shows that I want to call into happen when I'm at work about to leave work.,
	6:35pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Stay and call in
	6:35pm ultradamno: I have a listening party shirt
	🤖 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: Here is the way to the FMA Listening Party: www.wfmu.org... Tuesdays at 3PM Eastern Time on the Drummer Stream.
	6:39pm Jeff Moore: My favorite song from the birthday contest, which I insist on playing over and over whenever I have a birthday, is Foul Mouthed Birthday Robot by A-1 Mr. Son: freemusicarchive.org...
	6:40pm northguineahills: Ken, doing the universe's good work, (and Webhamster Henry)
	6:41pm Cheyenne: Jeff, I love it too but the song is not RADIO FRIENDLY!!! But really, everyone should hear it at least once.
	6:41pm northguineahills: Creating a database and a geoserver has been fun (never created a geoserver before) I'm not used to being the 'IT' guy.
	6:41pm herb.nyc: By coincidence, my laptop won't let me use it. Doesn't like the password. I may toss laptop out the window to get last laugh. (Ouch)
	6:43pm northguineahills: Going to a performance art/noise/bedroom lo-fi/and a robot dance party from an artist from NYC (I can't remember her name, and I'm not infecting my phone or work computer w/ FB to remember).
	6:44pm melinda: Just now seeing the Google screen image. Hahaha.
	🤖 6:45pm Ken From Hyde Park: Whee! How timely! My mail today had the FMA sticker, designed by Mayuko, one of the premiums from the last FMA fund drive. Thank you, Cheyenne and everyone!
	🤖 6:45pm Folsom: VISITORS looks like someone from a Michel Fiffe drawing.
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: That's funny I was going to ask if anyone was using the FMA as Machine Learning Training information!
	6:48pm Phil with the phone: We're taking calls for a few more minutes! 201-209-9368!
	6:48pm Aaron in Minneapolis: Hey I am on my laptop now, hence the profile pic
	🤖 6:49pm Webhamster Henry: Are there a lot of international submissions? if so, are there legal subtleties in the copyrights?
	6:52pm northguineahills: I don't mind infecting my home laptop w/ FB, as I can mitigate what happens there. (I don't have enough time to do that at work).
	🤖 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: I like how Liz Berg would include lots of FMA selections on her show.
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: Here are some genres of WFMU tracks! wfmu.org...
	6:54pm Aaron in Minneapolis: I miss Liz
	6:55pm listener james from westwood: Yes, Liz was always great for sampling that huge trove. Miss the hell out of her. All the more vital that Cheyenne is giving us a great hour's dose each week!
	🤖 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: And when you play an FMA song - you don't get an ad first!
	6:55pm northguineahills: Thanks Mark and Cheyenne and WoofMooers!
	6:55pm geezerette: This show needs two hours. Thanks, Mark, Cheyenne and all!
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Cheyenne!
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark & Cheyenne!
	6:56pm melinda: Thanks!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Appreciate you all joining us.
	6:59pm Cheyenne: Thanks y'all!!!
	6:59pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Cheyenne and Mark!
	🤖 7:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Just opened a Google tab and it _does_ fill in "your" data. Wow.
	7:16pm Aitch: Great show. I showed my daughter some of this stuff (15). She can now do two notes at once, she wants to learn it, amazing.
	7:48pm oogoo: I love this stuff. I adore Meredith Monk. But given her contemporaies in Brooklyn, Quens, and the Bronx, who scratched records and improvised their lyrical beats, and became an international phenomenon, you have to wonder how to determine who truly created someting phenomenal and authentic, and who was lost in solopsism. Or more importantly. How a successful artistic platform was promoted and marginslized simultaneously, a form of course found ed by poor brown skin kids willing to dig the dirt and create and a Macarthur Grant Winner who is in essence completely forgotton. Who is the real authentic cultural purveyor and how is marginalization determined. Rich and forgotten, or exploited and exhausted. Clearly bets were lost. Meredith verse the boro of the Bronx. I don't think there was any contest. Cultural was out of her reach. And genuine trends were exploited, cheapened, and exhausted.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 20, 2017

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Listener comments!

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