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Favoriting May 24, 2017: A Cult of Personality

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Derek the ex-Scientologist  0:00:00 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  7:01pm
james f:

do 8th level thetans have to pick up after the dog?
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TehBadDr:

More cult stuff?
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RomanDogBird:

oh oh
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RomanDogBird:

my boy hubby
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

Wait did you guys do the legal ID?
Avatar 7:05pm
kimzilla:

Veronica did the ID
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kimzilla and Emily:

Yes, you asked for it, you got it, CULTS PT 2!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

Ok I will stop being Mini Ken
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
Listener Scott:

Oh, I know Derek! Derek is awesome.
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kimzilla and Emily:

Really, that's a small world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:08pm
Listener Scott:

I'm Tony Ortega's attorney--he writes about Scientology every day. Of all the ex-members you could get on, Derek is one of the best.
Avatar 7:09pm
kimzilla and Emily:

wait. WHAT?! Scott, are you kidding?? That is too cool!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:09pm
common:

Hello
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kimzilla and Emily:

Well lucky us, he's the only ex-scientologist we know!
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kimzilla and Emily:

hi common!
  7:10pm
Hypertoast:

The Underground Bunker is great
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:11pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

I once saw a sign in a storefront, FREE PERSONALTY TESTS! I fell for it, then once they handed me the literature, and I saw the S word, I hauled ass out of there
Avatar 7:13pm
TehBadDr:

Many times I was tempted to go into the Mansion in Dupont Circle DC just for shits and giggles, but was afraid I would never come out.
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kimzilla and Emily:

@Aaron, smart man.
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emily:

@TehBadDr: I've passed by that a few times too! Made the same decision...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

Be glad I came out
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kimzilla:

@ZTehBadDr, friends of mine went in, just for the architecture. 3 hrs later and 2 readings they left not knowing what happened.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:16pm
Listener Scott:

TR's are about deadening your reactions so you're more susceptible to more Scientology bulls***
Avatar 7:17pm
kimzilla & emily:

@Scott: yeah--this is maybe the part that freaked us out more than anything.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:17pm
melinda:

hi folks
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Aaron in Minneapolis:

Scott how did you become a lawyer against the fricking church of Scientology?
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TehBadDr:

@kimzilla, that's what I figured would happen! Hey they got out!
  7:18pm
james:

reactive mind comes from not wanting to get mauled by a bear in the woods 7000 years ago. it can never be 'controlled'
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kimzilla & emily:

hi melinda!
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common:

This sounds familiar
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Aaron in Minneapolis:

Hi Melinda prepare to be brainwashed
Avatar 7:19pm
kimzilla & emily:

james. the bears are not going to get you. calm down.
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kimzilla & emily:

you can follow Derek on twitter @theformerscn
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:20pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

You missed a Bullshit, why arnt you sending me these shows so I can proof them?
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kimzilla & emily:

oops. man, there were so many! mostly because we were editing up to 30 minutes ago.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:21pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

You need your own editor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:22pm
Listener Scott:

@aaron I've been criticizing Scn online since the mid 1990s, and friends with Tony over the years. I'm known as 'tikk' in that world
Avatar 7:22pm
kimzilla & emily:

@Aaron that's really not a bad idea. It's just we love doing it so much!
Avatar 7:24pm
kimzilla & emily:

@Listener Scott, Is that a code name?
Avatar 7:25pm
mcFunyun:

Great show!
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kimzilla & emily:

Like, "The Tikk is on the move."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:25pm
Listener Scott:

Describing Scientology is so difficult without sounding crazy yourself. Not everyone can do it well, but Derek is great and engaging and gets it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:26pm
Listener Scott:

tikk is just the user name I've used on message boards and elsewhere over the years (like the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology)
Avatar 7:31pm
TehBadDr:

This is some great stuff again ladies! Derek is really letting it flow.
Avatar 7:32pm
kimzilla & emily:

Thank you! Yeah, Derek was so great--so interesting and great at explaining all this. We could have done TWO hours!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:33pm
joe mulligan:

I did the cans test once on market st SF, and realized the needle would move when you squeeze them. when they asked how I felt about my daily commute, I gripped the cans crushingly till the needles pinned red. they looked frightened, said you need help and I said gotta go!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:34pm
Listener Scott:

Derek makes a good point about how the early levels almost make sense and then the whole thing gets nuttier and nuttier as you get deeper in. That it's so expensive guards against you figuring out it's bunk, b/c you're too invested in it. If you spent this much, there MUST be something to it.
  7:35pm
Derek (Former SCN):

Hey guys! I'm glad you all are digging it! Feel free to ask me anything.
  7:36pm
Kimzilla:

Welcome Derek!
Avatar 7:36pm
kimzilla & emily:

@Scott: that's such an important observation. It's a sentiment echoed by other cult survivors as well (including the one we interviewed in the first part of our "cults" episodes).
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kimzilla & emily:

Hi Derek!
  7:36pm
Kimzilla:

This is so cringe worthy!
  7:37pm
Marc15:

Like the torture of Gay Conversion Therapy
  7:37pm
Derek (Former SCN):

Hiya! It really is cringe worthy.
Avatar 7:38pm
emily:

It's so much scarier than I even realized. There were so many things I learned that gave me the heebie jeebies.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
Listener Scott:

Derek I said nice things about you if you scroll up.
  7:38pm
JakeGould:

@ListenerScott: Ever hear of the phrase, “Sunken costs?” It’s basically a business term that means if future outlook is not so great, you can’t justify being involved in something just because you spent a lot of time and money already.

In real life it means that if you feel something is bad, stop looking at your past investments as something you should work against. If you had a great relationship and then it went south, just ditch it as painful as it might be. In the long run it will work out better.
  7:39pm
Derek (Former SCN):

Thanks Scott!
  7:40pm
JakeGould:

Also mean simply, “Quit while you’re ahead.”
Avatar 7:41pm
geezerette:

L. Ron Hubbard was originally a scifi writer and acolyte of Aleister Crowely. Seriously.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:41pm
melinda:

I saw an interesting doc about former Sea Org members. It opened my eyes to some of the cruelty of the cult.
  7:42pm
Derek (Former SCN):

You can read about LRH's "illustrious" Naval career (including shelling Mexico) here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_L._Ron_Hubbard
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:43pm
Listener Scott:

Right, sunken costs play a role; it's compounded by the prospect of losing all your friends (Scn cut your non-Scn family out years ago), and often you're not trained for any real life work.
Avatar 7:44pm
(Murakami Whywolf))):

As part of the Crowley stuff, Hubbard also mooched-off Jack Parsons, the founder of J.P.L., for awhile, and left with Parson's boat and mistress.

And here _I_ thought that the e-meter measured capacitance.
Avatar 7:46pm
geezerette:

The Germans didn't allow them to set up shop. Don't know about now. I've heard all this from a number of people.
Derek is very brave as well as sharp and articulate.
Avatar 7:48pm
geezerette:

@Murikami WW: Exactly! Fascinating story.
  7:52pm
Derek (Former SCN):

It was my pleasure!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:52pm
melinda:

Thanks Derek!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:52pm
common:

Thank you both, and you Derek!
  7:53pm
Hypertoast:

Great Episode!
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TehBadDr:

Yeah, well done Derek!
Avatar 7:54pm
mcFunyun:

Derek Thanks for sharing
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:54pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:

Take a trip to Minnesota!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
Tommy in Neversink:

Fantastic season !!!!! E and K
  7:55pm
james f:

37?!?! in a row?
Avatar 7:55pm
mcFunyun:

Derek Thanks for sharing
  7:55pm
Hypertoast:

On a blimp!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
Tommy in Neversink:

You must go to the House on the Rock in WI
Avatar 7:56pm
mcFunyun:

Derek Thanks for sharing
Avatar 7:57pm
geezerette:

This is a great show, Emily & Kim! Haven't heard before.
Avatar 7:57pm
Sand7018:

37 Episodes!!!! Holy Smokes, Ladies!!!!!!
  7:57pm
Derek (Former SCN):

My pleasure! I'm happy to expose these charlatans!
  7:57pm
DEZ:

starman!!! YEZ!!!
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Sand7018:

Thanks Derek!!!!!!
  7:59pm
james f:

nicely done, ladies!
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geezerette:

fingers crossed for Ted.
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