WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from March 5, 2017

Listener comments!
	8:56am Scraps: h'lo hey h'lo RIP Misha Mengelberg Horace Parlan two awesome jazz pianists RIP
	8:57am Jeff Golick: Hi hi hi, @Scraps, and welcome! Yes, the hits keep coming. Got some Parlan and Misha lined up for today's show.
	🥁 9:03am Peter from DE: Good morning! I've missed the live 'cast for a while, glad to be back. Sounds like the audio problems have been fixed for good?
	9:05am Scraps: Jesus Christ, I thought you were announcing the death of D:O! Damn.
	🥁 9:06am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Guitar Monk - I'm down.
	9:06am Gary: Hey there! GF still asleep so I'm listening via phone
	9:06am Scraps: (And Reggae Schoolroom, too.)
	🥁 9:06am Peter from DE: @Scraps me too! so pledge drive is next Sunday and the following Sunday both?
	9:08am Andy in Etobicoke: Morning Jeff and gathered outliers.
	9:09am Scraps: Horace Parlan died February 23. My dad's (75th) birthday.
	9:11am Jeff g.: Hi all. My laptop is freaking out. So trying via phone. Signal still coming thru?
	🥁 9:11am Peter from DE: sounds good, Jeff
	9:12am Jeff g.: Ok hm. Will be slow in updating playlist but hello to all!
	9:16am Jeff Golick: That was weird... Ok! Greetings and welcomes to @Andy in Etobicoke! Gary! @Revolution Rabbit! and Peter from DE! (Things have been going smoothly (knock wood), though my laptop fritzed out just for you!)
	9:17am Gary: Sound is fine
	9:18am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	9:18am listener james from westwood: Bit late on this chilly morning but happy to be here!
	9:19am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @Andrew Waterloo! Will try to be warming, @listener james!
	9:20am Mark R: Wow, this Nils Øklund track is really gorgeous. Nice Sunday morning music.
	9:22am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @Mark R! Glad you are enjoying...
	9:35am Gary: I listened to her show last night! It's great
	9:37am Gary: Oh shoot, I dragged you out into the worst cold day of the year. Sorry!
	🥁 9:37am Brian in UK: Quick hello Jeff, won't take my coat off, not stopping long.
	9:39am Jeff Golick: Glad to have even a brief appearance, @Brian in UK. Hope all's well. Out with the doggo?
	9:40am Jeff Golick: @Gary: can't wait to go back and listen.
	🥁 9:42am Peter from DE: I only recently tracked down a copy of the Parlan-Mosaic (Blue Note) box. great stuff. best is the trio w/ Tucker & Harewood. Jeff, you might have some sideman dates in your collection: Lou Donaldson, Turrentine, Dexter Gordon's Doin' Alright, plus Booker Ervin's Cookin' (not Blue Note(
	9:43am Doug Schulkind: Just dropping in to say gotta run! Happy D:Oings, Jeff and all!
	9:43am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Peter. Hadn't realized (or forgot?) that there was even a Parlan Mosaic box. It is one of the big sets? Or one of the Selects?
	9:44am Jeff Golick: Hi Doug! Bye Doug!
	🥁 9:48am duke: Just in time for Rahsaan Roland Kirk
	🥁 9:49am Peter from DE: Parlan Mosaic one of the big ones. 5 CD's collecting 7 LP sessions. two trio sessions, one trio plus Ray Baretto, two quintets w/ the Turrentine Bros., one with Booker Ervin & Grant Green, another w/ Ervin and Johnny Coles
	9:51am Jeff Golick: Whoa, @Peter. Nice pick up. Hey, @duke! And we're just in time for you.
	9:52am Scraps: Either one of these Jelly Roll songs are awesome
	9:53am Scraps: (Mingus Jelly Roll songs, that is)
	9:54am Scraps: Oh oh oh oh!
	9:55am Jeff Golick: Agreed, @Scraps!
	9:55am Scraps: happy happy
	🥁 10:11am doctorjazz: Hi all, made it!
	10:12am Jeff Golick: What'd you make? Hi, @doctorjazz!
	🥁 10:15am doctorjazz: The Parlan Mosaic is a really good one. 5 CD complete Blue Note sessions.
	🥁 10:16am Peter from DE: Really making the case for the links between ICP and Mingus!!!
	10:16am Andrew Waterloo: Somebody shared a great video of Mengelberg playing light quirky piano while Han Bennink played a pizza box lid.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: Sad passings, but makes for a great show.
	🥁 10:17am doctorjazz: Bennink was a performing madman!
	10:24am Jeff Golick: Bennink can play anything.
	🥁 10:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sad memorial - but the Mingus stylee seems just the right medicine this moment. Post-MardiGras N'Orleans style funeral, perhaps...
	10:26am Andrew Waterloo: here it is for later: www.youtube.com...
	🥁 10:27am Peter from DE: Misha's cat(s) were talented too. www.youtube.com...
	10:28am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Andrew! Good ears, re Mingus, @Peter & @RRN63. Hadn't consciously made the connection...
	10:28am Jeff Golick: Mengelberg (in)famously recorded a parrot in duet with some Dolphy on record, if I have that right.
	10:29am Jeff Golick: (He was a Fluxus guy.)
	10:32am Jeff Golick: Misha should really get a full three hours, now that I've started into this...
	🥁 10:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Honestly I wasn't familiar w/ his name @ all - but BobBrainen (on Saturdays) just played a track or two - & Mingus was the 1st thing I thot - & then he played Dolphy anyhow...This sounds halfway twixt Monk & Taylor - which is an interesting place to be...
	🥁 10:36am Peter from DE: lucky to see the quartet w/ Douglas in Philly. Show began w/ Bennink playing "ah leu cha" solo (based on Philly Joe). then Mengelberg started banging left-hand clusters and it eventually revealed itself to be a deconstructed My Funny Valentine (the bridge)
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Lucky, indeed, @Peter! @RRN63: just read an older intvw with Mengelberg wherein he said he found Cecil's concept repetitive (& not in a good way).
	10:43am annie: good morning!!!
	🥁 10:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Jazz is so rich. Yeah - you could say percussive. Do you think he influenced him anyhow? Fluxus & NYC - this is a thing...never knew there was a direct Jazz connection, but why not...
	10:44am Scraps: Tayror repetitive? Mengelberg said that? Well, shakes my head....
	🥁 10:45am Peter from DE: I love Cecil but I do think he plays the same rhythms and scales all the time. I think of Mengelberg and Jaki Byard -- having mastery of old styles, harmonic construction, as well as out playing.
	10:48am Jeff Golick: Hey up there, @annie! G'morning to you.
	10:49am Jeff Golick: Yay, Byard is a good comparison. So much contained in one player.
	🥁 10:51am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting as Taylor's background was reportedly quite Academic. Hard to imagine any Out piano player not being influenced by him...It's often surprising to hear one Artist's take on another being critical (to whatever degree) - but then, if they wanted to do what another did, they wouldn't be themselves - which takes a huge amount of belief, effort & assertion, after all.
	🥁 10:52am Peter from DE: plus Byard too had a streak of absurdism.
	🥁 10:54am Peter from DE: early Taylor clearly comes out of Ellington, so he is definitely rooted. many players sound superficially like Taylor, but when you listen you realize that their clusters are different and their rhythms are different (e.g. Don Pullen)
	🥁 10:56am doctorjazz: Byard was fun, CT not so much. Mengleberg was also fun. Dutch stuff seems to love being playful, from what I've heard of it. Breuker was a riot in concert.
	🥁 10:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: My understanding is that the Fluxus credo has involved Dada-like aesthetics, & Happenings / Performance Art - but w/ notably more Inclusive & Optimistic aims then a lot of Modernists. Thx for the Schoolin' all youse!
	🥁 10:58am doctorjazz: Never heard Taylor at all in Pullen, he stretched bop and the clusters come out of a bebop rhythmic sensibility
	🥁 10:58am Peter from DE: Fluxus definitely included more artists of color (Yoko Ono, Nam June Paik, many others)
	🥁 10:59am Peter from DE: @doctorjazz I agree. but many superficial listeners assume Pullen is derivative. (see also: Brad Mehldau - Bill Evans -- Mehldau is actually nothing like Evans)
	10:59am Jeff Golick: If you're a pianist, I think you can follow Taylor or go in a completely opposite direction, but you've got to reckon with him in some way.
	11:00am Jeff Golick: Derek Bailey is just the ultimate wildcard.
	🥁 11:00am Peter from DE: Borah Bergman... Schlippenbach...
	11:01am Jeff Golick: Crispell, too...
	11:02am Gary: You know you're keeping me from listening to my new Downtown stash, right?
	🥁 11:02am Peter from DE: yes! early Myra Melford is interesting, maybe more out of Pullen than Taylor @doctorjazz what do you think?
	🥁 11:03am doctorjazz: This Groupcomposing is great...wife's away, can listen on speakers, Great fun! Dreading getting out from under the covers for the Ozzie walk...
	11:04am Jeff Golick: Well, if it's any consolation, @Gary, I'm not listening to mine either.
	11:04am Scraps: Early Melford sounds like Threadgill to me
	11:06am Gary: Touche
	🥁 11:06am Peter from DE: @scraps i hear that!
	11:06am Jeff Golick: S'funny, I have a hard time classifying Myra Melford. Probably haven't listened to enough of it....
	11:07am Scraps: Compositionally, I mean
	🥁 11:07am doctorjazz: I'd agree on Milford, heard and got the first trio album Jump when it came out, didn't think of it as "challenging "music like some of the more "out" pianists, say Borgman.
	🥁 11:08am Peter from DE: I also hear intriguing links between Melford and Satoko Fujii
	11:09am Jeff Golick: This convo is reminding me that I need to play the new Aki Takase/David Murray album on the show, stat.
	🥁 11:09am Peter from DE: @doctorjazz, yes "Jump" has grooves and forms, the improvisations go out but then come back in
	🥁 11:10am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'Rood' here makes me think a bit of 20thCent. Academic composers - outside of Jazz...something about him seems to remind me of Monk (who is 2nd only to Trane for me in all of Jazz)...
	🥁 11:10am doctorjazz: Don't know Fuji, sounds like worth checking out. (so many holes in my musical knowledge...)
	11:11am Jeff Golick: Huh, @Peter, Fujii and Melford did an album together! www.discogs.com... - had no idea.
	🥁 11:11am Peter from DE: Fujii has several different line-ups and they sound totally different. "past life" (sextet) sounds like Melford's "same river twice" with maybe a hint of early George Russell. also has trio, duo w/ trumpet, and big band(s)
	11:13am Jeff Golick: @RRN63: in that same interview I mentioned earlier, Mengelberg (who revered Monk) recalls meeting him during a Monk Qt tour of Europe -- this would be in Monk's much later years -- and Monk doesn't recall his own composition "Criss Cross." On Monk's next ride through Europe, he plays "Criss Cross." Hard to know what to believe here, but it's an interesting story.
	🥁 11:13am doctorjazz: So much music, so little time is becoming my mantra.
	🥁 11:13am Peter from DE: @jeff Whoa! I had no idea either. i do have Fujii's duet album with Paul Bley, haven't listened it years but i remember it disappointed me. but maybe should go back to it with fresh ears
	11:14am Jeff Golick: Here's the interview link, btw: www.paristransatlantic.com...
	11:14am Jeff Golick: Fujii has been putting out a LOT of music over the last couple of years. I haven't been able to keep up with it.
	🥁 11:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...some of that Bennink performance you spoke of earlier... Cheers Jeff! I think of Monk as no less than an emissary of a different sort of nervous system.
	🥁 11:15am Peter from DE: @jeff not buying that Monk story. "criss cross" is on one of the 60s columbia quartet albums. actually, i do buy that he would have SAID "i don't remember that" if someone asked.
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: It's gone over 30 degrees, no excuse, take the show with me on the walk.
	11:17am Jeff Golick: More Monk coming up, btw, via Mengelberg and Braxton.
	🥁 11:18am Peter from DE: @jeff it is true that Monk modified the form of "criss cross"... hmm, so maybe Mengelberg is right, i spoke too soon.
	🥁 11:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Gonna enjoy that interview! Obviously a guy who had a lot going on idea & concept-wise. Had something to say. Monk played games w/ personas , after all...
	11:22am melinda: Hi all
	11:26am Gary: Oh, I have a title: "Back to Braxton"!
	🥁 11:26am doctorjazz: No to Schappification!!!!!!
	🥁 11:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: My momma told me - you better Schapp around.
	11:29am Jeff Golick: Hi, @melinda!
	11:30am Jeff Golick: Ha, @doc. Gotcha. Can't possibly happen. I recently had Schaap on in the car, during an hour+ drive. I think I heard two songs.
	11:30am Jeff Golick: @Gary: I like it!
	🥁 11:31am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I appreciate Schapp actually. You know what music/talk ratio you're in for. So he's a lecturer.
	11:33am Jeff Golick: I appreciate Schaap, too. Though sometimes I appreciate the concept of Schaap more than the listening experience itself. (Kind of the way most folks feel about jazz, probably.)
	🥁 11:34am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I wish someone would do for Trane & Hendrix what he does for Bird. I mean - I don't need it every morning...
	🥁 11:35am doctorjazz: He must be the most knowledgeable Jazz guy on Earth, I've listened to him and learned stuff for years. But.it's gotten worse over the years, can't listen to a discussion on whether the pizza delivery was during the 2nd or 3rd take of Bird 's recording date.
	🥁 11:37am doctorjazz: That. well You Needn't was great, getting Braxton on standard today so far...
	11:40am Jeff Golick: Yup. Not a whole lot of love for Braxton's take on standards/Monk/Parker/etc., from what I can tell, broadly speaking. But, like Schaap, the informed listener kind of knows what she's in for.
	11:43am Jeff Golick: @RRN63: re Trane, have you heard those shows Doug did, when he broadcast the Colrane radio documentary, Tell Me How Long Trane's Been Gone?
	11:44am northguineahills: Came back in time for Braxton, a hero of mine!
	🥁 11:45am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh yeah - love that doc. Taped it to cassette off NPR when people did things like that.
	11:45am Jeff Golick: Yahoo, @ngh!
	11:46am northguineahills: I actually originally learned most jazz standards from Braxton's jazz standards albums. I think I have three
	11:46am Jeff Golick: That'll warp you right good, @ngh.
	🥁 11:48am doctorjazz: Really do like his take on standards Didn't he do an album o of Bird/bebop stuff?
	11:49am northguineahills: I started attending my parents church occasionally just so I can gain access to their pipe organ. A steep price to pay, but the organ is so worth it! I finally recorded stuff this week.
	🥁 11:49am doctorjazz: Almost marathon! Thanks for the great show!
	🥁 11:50am doctorjazz: (that answered that question...have that Parker disc elsewhere...).
	🥁 11:52am Brian in UK: Jeff, just back from chilly dog walk. Four seasons in one hour. Need a corpse reviver.
	11:53am Jeff Golick: If you do get a corpse reviver, do use it wisely, @Brian.
	11:55am Gary: This is moving
	🥁 11:55am doctorjazz: Still pretty cold in Noisy.
	🥁 11:56am doctorjazz: Joisey, that is...
	11:57am glenn: corpse reviver - 1 part gin, 1 part amaretto, 2 parts elderflower syrup, serve in rocks glass with soda.
	11:57am Jeff Golick: @glenn!!
	🥁 11:58am Brian in UK: My goto is a Bluddy Mary.
	🥁 11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah man, even for Ray. 19℉ here NH - & windy (that's the killer). Better this week. Sounds good medicine glenn.
	🥁 11:58am Brian in UK: glenn good work.
	🥁 12:01pm duke: Thanks Jeff!
	12:02pm Gary: Great show, Jeff -- see you soon!
	12:03pm Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here, @duke! See ya, @Gary!
	🥁 12:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx JeffG !
	12:03pm Jeff Golick: Bye, @RRN633! Always a pleasure. Thanks to all for the great convo on the playlist today!

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March 5, 2017: Parlan, Mengelberg, on My Mind

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:06 (Pop-up)
String Trio of New York with Anthony Davis	Ruby, My Dear	Ellington / Monk / Mingus / Davis	Music and Arts Programs of America, Inc.	1997		0:05:03 (Pop-up)
Fred Lonberg-Holm	forest "forest" by "Fred Lonberg-Holm"	Cabin, Cemetery, Forest	Flying Aspidistra	2017		0:14:20 (Pop-up)
Nils Økland Band	Kjølvatn "Kjølvatn" by "Nils Økland Band"	Kjølvatn	ECM	2016		0:17:38 (Pop-up)
Okkyung Lee	Unfolded Rings "Unfolded Rings" by "Okkyung Lee"	Rusk (comp.)	Fenêtre Records / Loyal Label	2012		0:22:40 (Pop-up)
Dave Douglas	Sea Change "Sea Change" by "Dave Douglas"	Charms of the Night Sky	Winter & Winter	1998		0:27:58 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					0:33:12 (Pop-up)
Archie Shepp & Horace Parlan	Goin' Home	Goin' Home	SteepleChase	1977		0:38:59 (Pop-up)
Rahsaan Roland Kirk	The Business Ain't Nothin' but the Blues	I Talk with the Spirits	Mercury	1965		0:44:07 (Pop-up)
Charles Mingus	Jelly Roll "Jelly Roll" by "Charles Mingus"	Mingus Ah Um	Columbia	1959		0:49:05 (Pop-up)
Charles Mingus	Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting	Blues & Roots	Atlantic	1960		0:53:08 (Pop-up)
Archie Shepp & Horace Parlan	Make Me a Pallet on the Floor	Trouble in Mind	SteepleChase	1980		0:58:42 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Chaz Jankel	To Woo Lady Kong "To Woo Lady Kong" by "Chaz Jankel"					1:02:05 (Pop-up)
Baars / Henneman / Mengelberg	Misha Started Whistling	Sliptong	Wig	2009		1:07:43 (Pop-up)
ICP Tentet	Ludwig's Blue Note "Ludwig's Blue Note" by "ICP Tentet"	Tetterettet	ICP Records	1977		1:08:45 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg & ICP Orchestra	Japan Japon	Japan Japon	ICP Records	1982		1:14:10 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg / Steve Lacy / George Lewis / Arjen Gorter / Han Bennink	Step Tempest	Change of Season (The Music of Herbie Nichols)	Soul Note	1985		1:21:11 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg Quartet	Kwela P'Kwana	Four in One	Songlines	2001		1:25:02 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg	Pech Onderweg 2 (Trouble on the Road 2)	Pech Onderweg	BV Haast	1979		1:30:17 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg	September Song "September Song" by "Misha Mengelberg"	No Idea	DIW	1996		1:36:11 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Granny on the Gramophone					1:40:48 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg / Peter Brötzmann / Evan Parker / Peter Bennink / Paul Rutherford / Derek Bailey / Han Bennink	Groupcomposing, Part 1	Groupcomposing	ICP Records	1970		1:47:10 (Pop-up)
Misha Mengelberg & Han Bennink	Rood	Midwoud 77	ICP Records	1977		2:04:29 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dick Khoza	Lilongwe "Lilongwe" by "Dick Khoza"					2:22:10 (Pop-up)
A/B: A Weekly Celebration of Anthony Braxton
Braxton / Mengelberg / Dresser / Bennink	Well, You Needn't	October Meeting 1991: 3 Quartets	Bimhuis Records	1991/1997		2:27:53 (Pop-up)
Anthony Braxton	Dewey Square "Dewey Square" by "Anthony Braxton"	Charlie Parker Project 1993	hat ART	1995	(w Mengelberg)	2:36:14 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Mouse on Mars	Fantastic Analysis "Fantastic Analysis" by "Mouse on Mars"					2:48:18 (Pop-up)
Ray Charles	Georgia on My Mind "Georgia on My Mind" by "Ray Charles"	Live in Concert	ABC Paramount	1964		2:52:19 (Pop-up)
Julie London	Cry Me a River "Cry Me a River" by "Julie London"	Julie Is Her Name	Liberty	1955		2:59:02 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline Records	1975		3:01:12 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:56am Scraps: h'lo hey h'lo RIP Misha Mengelberg Horace Parlan two awesome jazz pianists RIP
	8:57am Jeff Golick: Hi hi hi, @Scraps, and welcome! Yes, the hits keep coming. Got some Parlan and Misha lined up for today's show.
	🥁 9:03am Peter from DE: Good morning! I've missed the live 'cast for a while, glad to be back. Sounds like the audio problems have been fixed for good?
	9:05am Scraps: Jesus Christ, I thought you were announcing the death of D:O! Damn.
	🥁 9:06am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Guitar Monk - I'm down.
	9:06am Gary: Hey there! GF still asleep so I'm listening via phone
	9:06am Scraps: (And Reggae Schoolroom, too.)
	🥁 9:06am Peter from DE: @Scraps me too! so pledge drive is next Sunday and the following Sunday both?
	9:08am Andy in Etobicoke: Morning Jeff and gathered outliers.
	9:09am Scraps: Horace Parlan died February 23. My dad's (75th) birthday.
	9:11am Jeff g.: Hi all. My laptop is freaking out. So trying via phone. Signal still coming thru?
	🥁 9:11am Peter from DE: sounds good, Jeff
	9:12am Jeff g.: Ok hm. Will be slow in updating playlist but hello to all!
	9:16am Jeff Golick: That was weird... Ok! Greetings and welcomes to @Andy in Etobicoke! Gary! @Revolution Rabbit! and Peter from DE! (Things have been going smoothly (knock wood), though my laptop fritzed out just for you!)
	9:17am Gary: Sound is fine
	9:18am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	9:18am listener james from westwood: Bit late on this chilly morning but happy to be here!
	9:19am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @Andrew Waterloo! Will try to be warming, @listener james!
	9:20am Mark R: Wow, this Nils Øklund track is really gorgeous. Nice Sunday morning music.
	9:22am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @Mark R! Glad you are enjoying...
	9:35am Gary: I listened to her show last night! It's great
	9:37am Gary: Oh shoot, I dragged you out into the worst cold day of the year. Sorry!
	🥁 9:37am Brian in UK: Quick hello Jeff, won't take my coat off, not stopping long.
	9:39am Jeff Golick: Glad to have even a brief appearance, @Brian in UK. Hope all's well. Out with the doggo?
	9:40am Jeff Golick: @Gary: can't wait to go back and listen.
	🥁 9:42am Peter from DE: I only recently tracked down a copy of the Parlan-Mosaic (Blue Note) box. great stuff. best is the trio w/ Tucker & Harewood. Jeff, you might have some sideman dates in your collection: Lou Donaldson, Turrentine, Dexter Gordon's Doin' Alright, plus Booker Ervin's Cookin' (not Blue Note(
	9:43am Doug Schulkind: Just dropping in to say gotta run! Happy D:Oings, Jeff and all!
	9:43am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Peter. Hadn't realized (or forgot?) that there was even a Parlan Mosaic box. It is one of the big sets? Or one of the Selects?
	9:44am Jeff Golick: Hi Doug! Bye Doug!
	🥁 9:48am duke: Just in time for Rahsaan Roland Kirk
	🥁 9:49am Peter from DE: Parlan Mosaic one of the big ones. 5 CD's collecting 7 LP sessions. two trio sessions, one trio plus Ray Baretto, two quintets w/ the Turrentine Bros., one with Booker Ervin & Grant Green, another w/ Ervin and Johnny Coles
	9:51am Jeff Golick: Whoa, @Peter. Nice pick up. Hey, @duke! And we're just in time for you.
	9:52am Scraps: Either one of these Jelly Roll songs are awesome
	9:53am Scraps: (Mingus Jelly Roll songs, that is)
	9:54am Scraps: Oh oh oh oh!
	9:55am Jeff Golick: Agreed, @Scraps!
	9:55am Scraps: happy happy
	🥁 10:11am doctorjazz: Hi all, made it!
	10:12am Jeff Golick: What'd you make? Hi, @doctorjazz!
	🥁 10:15am doctorjazz: The Parlan Mosaic is a really good one. 5 CD complete Blue Note sessions.
	🥁 10:16am Peter from DE: Really making the case for the links between ICP and Mingus!!!
	10:16am Andrew Waterloo: Somebody shared a great video of Mengelberg playing light quirky piano while Han Bennink played a pizza box lid.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: Sad passings, but makes for a great show.
	🥁 10:17am doctorjazz: Bennink was a performing madman!
	10:24am Jeff Golick: Bennink can play anything.
	🥁 10:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sad memorial - but the Mingus stylee seems just the right medicine this moment. Post-MardiGras N'Orleans style funeral, perhaps...
	10:26am Andrew Waterloo: here it is for later: www.youtube.com...
	🥁 10:27am Peter from DE: Misha's cat(s) were talented too. www.youtube.com...
	10:28am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Andrew! Good ears, re Mingus, @Peter & @RRN63. Hadn't consciously made the connection...
	10:28am Jeff Golick: Mengelberg (in)famously recorded a parrot in duet with some Dolphy on record, if I have that right.
	10:29am Jeff Golick: (He was a Fluxus guy.)
	10:32am Jeff Golick: Misha should really get a full three hours, now that I've started into this...
	🥁 10:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Honestly I wasn't familiar w/ his name @ all - but BobBrainen (on Saturdays) just played a track or two - & Mingus was the 1st thing I thot - & then he played Dolphy anyhow...This sounds halfway twixt Monk & Taylor - which is an interesting place to be...
	🥁 10:36am Peter from DE: lucky to see the quartet w/ Douglas in Philly. Show began w/ Bennink playing "ah leu cha" solo (based on Philly Joe). then Mengelberg started banging left-hand clusters and it eventually revealed itself to be a deconstructed My Funny Valentine (the bridge)
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Lucky, indeed, @Peter! @RRN63: just read an older intvw with Mengelberg wherein he said he found Cecil's concept repetitive (& not in a good way).
	10:43am annie: good morning!!!
	🥁 10:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Jazz is so rich. Yeah - you could say percussive. Do you think he influenced him anyhow? Fluxus & NYC - this is a thing...never knew there was a direct Jazz connection, but why not...
	10:44am Scraps: Tayror repetitive? Mengelberg said that? Well, shakes my head....
	🥁 10:45am Peter from DE: I love Cecil but I do think he plays the same rhythms and scales all the time. I think of Mengelberg and Jaki Byard -- having mastery of old styles, harmonic construction, as well as out playing.
	10:48am Jeff Golick: Hey up there, @annie! G'morning to you.
	10:49am Jeff Golick: Yay, Byard is a good comparison. So much contained in one player.
	🥁 10:51am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting as Taylor's background was reportedly quite Academic. Hard to imagine any Out piano player not being influenced by him...It's often surprising to hear one Artist's take on another being critical (to whatever degree) - but then, if they wanted to do what another did, they wouldn't be themselves - which takes a huge amount of belief, effort & assertion, after all.
	🥁 10:52am Peter from DE: plus Byard too had a streak of absurdism.
	🥁 10:54am Peter from DE: early Taylor clearly comes out of Ellington, so he is definitely rooted. many players sound superficially like Taylor, but when you listen you realize that their clusters are different and their rhythms are different (e.g. Don Pullen)
	🥁 10:56am doctorjazz: Byard was fun, CT not so much. Mengleberg was also fun. Dutch stuff seems to love being playful, from what I've heard of it. Breuker was a riot in concert.
	🥁 10:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: My understanding is that the Fluxus credo has involved Dada-like aesthetics, & Happenings / Performance Art - but w/ notably more Inclusive & Optimistic aims then a lot of Modernists. Thx for the Schoolin' all youse!
	🥁 10:58am doctorjazz: Never heard Taylor at all in Pullen, he stretched bop and the clusters come out of a bebop rhythmic sensibility
	🥁 10:58am Peter from DE: Fluxus definitely included more artists of color (Yoko Ono, Nam June Paik, many others)
	🥁 10:59am Peter from DE: @doctorjazz I agree. but many superficial listeners assume Pullen is derivative. (see also: Brad Mehldau - Bill Evans -- Mehldau is actually nothing like Evans)
	10:59am Jeff Golick: If you're a pianist, I think you can follow Taylor or go in a completely opposite direction, but you've got to reckon with him in some way.
	11:00am Jeff Golick: Derek Bailey is just the ultimate wildcard.
	🥁 11:00am Peter from DE: Borah Bergman... Schlippenbach...
	11:01am Jeff Golick: Crispell, too...
	11:02am Gary: You know you're keeping me from listening to my new Downtown stash, right?
	🥁 11:02am Peter from DE: yes! early Myra Melford is interesting, maybe more out of Pullen than Taylor @doctorjazz what do you think?
	🥁 11:03am doctorjazz: This Groupcomposing is great...wife's away, can listen on speakers, Great fun! Dreading getting out from under the covers for the Ozzie walk...
	11:04am Jeff Golick: Well, if it's any consolation, @Gary, I'm not listening to mine either.
	11:04am Scraps: Early Melford sounds like Threadgill to me
	11:06am Gary: Touche
	🥁 11:06am Peter from DE: @scraps i hear that!
	11:06am Jeff Golick: S'funny, I have a hard time classifying Myra Melford. Probably haven't listened to enough of it....
	11:07am Scraps: Compositionally, I mean
	🥁 11:07am doctorjazz: I'd agree on Milford, heard and got the first trio album Jump when it came out, didn't think of it as "challenging "music like some of the more "out" pianists, say Borgman.
	🥁 11:08am Peter from DE: I also hear intriguing links between Melford and Satoko Fujii
	11:09am Jeff Golick: This convo is reminding me that I need to play the new Aki Takase/David Murray album on the show, stat.
	🥁 11:09am Peter from DE: @doctorjazz, yes "Jump" has grooves and forms, the improvisations go out but then come back in
	🥁 11:10am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'Rood' here makes me think a bit of 20thCent. Academic composers - outside of Jazz...something about him seems to remind me of Monk (who is 2nd only to Trane for me in all of Jazz)...
	🥁 11:10am doctorjazz: Don't know Fuji, sounds like worth checking out. (so many holes in my musical knowledge...)
	11:11am Jeff Golick: Huh, @Peter, Fujii and Melford did an album together! www.discogs.com... - had no idea.
	🥁 11:11am Peter from DE: Fujii has several different line-ups and they sound totally different. "past life" (sextet) sounds like Melford's "same river twice" with maybe a hint of early George Russell. also has trio, duo w/ trumpet, and big band(s)
	11:13am Jeff Golick: @RRN63: in that same interview I mentioned earlier, Mengelberg (who revered Monk) recalls meeting him during a Monk Qt tour of Europe -- this would be in Monk's much later years -- and Monk doesn't recall his own composition "Criss Cross." On Monk's next ride through Europe, he plays "Criss Cross." Hard to know what to believe here, but it's an interesting story.
	🥁 11:13am doctorjazz: So much music, so little time is becoming my mantra.
	🥁 11:13am Peter from DE: @jeff Whoa! I had no idea either. i do have Fujii's duet album with Paul Bley, haven't listened it years but i remember it disappointed me. but maybe should go back to it with fresh ears
	11:14am Jeff Golick: Here's the interview link, btw: www.paristransatlantic.com...
	11:14am Jeff Golick: Fujii has been putting out a LOT of music over the last couple of years. I haven't been able to keep up with it.
	🥁 11:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...some of that Bennink performance you spoke of earlier... Cheers Jeff! I think of Monk as no less than an emissary of a different sort of nervous system.
	🥁 11:15am Peter from DE: @jeff not buying that Monk story. "criss cross" is on one of the 60s columbia quartet albums. actually, i do buy that he would have SAID "i don't remember that" if someone asked.
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: It's gone over 30 degrees, no excuse, take the show with me on the walk.
	11:17am Jeff Golick: More Monk coming up, btw, via Mengelberg and Braxton.
	🥁 11:18am Peter from DE: @jeff it is true that Monk modified the form of "criss cross"... hmm, so maybe Mengelberg is right, i spoke too soon.
	🥁 11:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Gonna enjoy that interview! Obviously a guy who had a lot going on idea & concept-wise. Had something to say. Monk played games w/ personas , after all...
	11:22am melinda: Hi all
	11:26am Gary: Oh, I have a title: "Back to Braxton"!
	🥁 11:26am doctorjazz: No to Schappification!!!!!!
	🥁 11:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: My momma told me - you better Schapp around.
	11:29am Jeff Golick: Hi, @melinda!
	11:30am Jeff Golick: Ha, @doc. Gotcha. Can't possibly happen. I recently had Schaap on in the car, during an hour+ drive. I think I heard two songs.
	11:30am Jeff Golick: @Gary: I like it!
	🥁 11:31am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I appreciate Schapp actually. You know what music/talk ratio you're in for. So he's a lecturer.
	11:33am Jeff Golick: I appreciate Schaap, too. Though sometimes I appreciate the concept of Schaap more than the listening experience itself. (Kind of the way most folks feel about jazz, probably.)
	🥁 11:34am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I wish someone would do for Trane & Hendrix what he does for Bird. I mean - I don't need it every morning...
	🥁 11:35am doctorjazz: He must be the most knowledgeable Jazz guy on Earth, I've listened to him and learned stuff for years. But.it's gotten worse over the years, can't listen to a discussion on whether the pizza delivery was during the 2nd or 3rd take of Bird 's recording date.
	🥁 11:37am doctorjazz: That. well You Needn't was great, getting Braxton on standard today so far...
	11:40am Jeff Golick: Yup. Not a whole lot of love for Braxton's take on standards/Monk/Parker/etc., from what I can tell, broadly speaking. But, like Schaap, the informed listener kind of knows what she's in for.
	11:43am Jeff Golick: @RRN63: re Trane, have you heard those shows Doug did, when he broadcast the Colrane radio documentary, Tell Me How Long Trane's Been Gone?
	11:44am northguineahills: Came back in time for Braxton, a hero of mine!
	🥁 11:45am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh yeah - love that doc. Taped it to cassette off NPR when people did things like that.
	11:45am Jeff Golick: Yahoo, @ngh!
	11:46am northguineahills: I actually originally learned most jazz standards from Braxton's jazz standards albums. I think I have three
	11:46am Jeff Golick: That'll warp you right good, @ngh.
	🥁 11:48am doctorjazz: Really do like his take on standards Didn't he do an album o of Bird/bebop stuff?
	11:49am northguineahills: I started attending my parents church occasionally just so I can gain access to their pipe organ. A steep price to pay, but the organ is so worth it! I finally recorded stuff this week.
	🥁 11:49am doctorjazz: Almost marathon! Thanks for the great show!
	🥁 11:50am doctorjazz: (that answered that question...have that Parker disc elsewhere...).
	🥁 11:52am Brian in UK: Jeff, just back from chilly dog walk. Four seasons in one hour. Need a corpse reviver.
	11:53am Jeff Golick: If you do get a corpse reviver, do use it wisely, @Brian.
	11:55am Gary: This is moving
	🥁 11:55am doctorjazz: Still pretty cold in Noisy.
	🥁 11:56am doctorjazz: Joisey, that is...
	11:57am glenn: corpse reviver - 1 part gin, 1 part amaretto, 2 parts elderflower syrup, serve in rocks glass with soda.
	11:57am Jeff Golick: @glenn!!
	🥁 11:58am Brian in UK: My goto is a Bluddy Mary.
	🥁 11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah man, even for Ray. 19℉ here NH - & windy (that's the killer). Better this week. Sounds good medicine glenn.
	🥁 11:58am Brian in UK: glenn good work.
	🥁 12:01pm duke: Thanks Jeff!
	12:02pm Gary: Great show, Jeff -- see you soon!
	12:03pm Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here, @duke! See ya, @Gary!
	🥁 12:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx JeffG !
	12:03pm Jeff Golick: Bye, @RRN633! Always a pleasure. Thanks to all for the great convo on the playlist today!

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