WFMU: Jason Elbogen: Playlist from December 9, 2016

Listener comments!
	♥ 3:05pm fred: Good afternoon Jason
	3:06pm Jason Elbogen: Hey Fred, hope you're well!
	♥ 3:07pm Ike: Hello. I like Elmhurst. Any idea if Chao Thai is still good? I haven't been lately.
	♥ 3:09pm melinda: hola
	3:14pm Jason Elbogen: Hey Ike! Funny--did I mention Chao Thai a long long time ago?
	♥ 3:14pm Alex In Illinois: Elmhurst Illinois? I have not been to Chao Thai, but I just looked it up and it is still there. The part of Elmhurst I have spent the most time in is the Hospital and the Toyota dealer. It is a very good hospital, though I have never stayed overnight.
	♥ 3:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Set off to a great start.
	3:19pm ifny: Holy snowbank, great way to get this party started. Drummer's in the House!
	♥ 3:20pm Ike: Not sure, Jason. I just bring it up because you mentioned Elmhurst, and that used to be quite possibly the best Thai food in Queens. I've gone to Khao Kang recently, but not Chao. I was disappointed when Chao Too closed, but at least the original is still there, last I checked.
	3:25pm ifny: Ok so I just looked up Pleng Nohra on YT to see if I could find it, but instead I found this which just blew my mind clean off. At first I thought he was making a traditional fishing hole, but no...can't wait to try this. To hell with fish anyway: www.youtube.com...
	♥ 3:26pm fred: Already two clicky-stars, this is looking like a fantastic show
	♥ 3:29pm Ike: Thanks Jason. Yeah, I used to spend a lot of time on Chowhound too, and I might have seen you around there at one point or another. "Downhill alert" has crept into my personal jargon as well.
	♥ 3:33pm melinda: As far as jargon goes that sounds ok.
	♥ 3:34pm fred: I remember a Laotian student in college who had a long name too. The teachers were afraid to mangle her name so she got away with a lot
	♥ 3:36pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Jason and Drummer enthusiasts.
	♥ 3:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Now - what possible reason could Jewish people have for being concerned about racial scapegoating for economic &/or national frustrations? Germany was an especially 'civilized' country. We are in big trouble, & need to organize Resistance. Orwell was right I'm afraid: there is no being apolitical.
	3:37pm Leonardo: Turn it up!
	♥ 3:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fugs cover?
	3:45pm Jason Elbogen: Yes! Fugs!
	♥ 3:51pm fred: Foot Village! Excellent live band
	♥ 3:57pm melinda: I thought it sounded familiar.
	3:58pm ifny: @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 and everyone who's pissed and/or frightened: useful links useful if you haven't seen them already: EFF's digital security guide: <www.eff.org... antifa resource roundup: <antifascistnetwork.org... and if you know any academics, here's a pdf about militant research: <steinhardt.nyu.edu...
	♥ 4:01pm fred: I only started seeing a lot of shows in my mid thirties. Maybe because I never was in a band
	♥ 4:06pm Alex In Illinois: The military is not necessarily happy about the what is occurring. Much of the Navy confirms that Global Climate change is in progress. All or most recent veterans holding or running for office have been Democrats. The Veterans for Standing Rock, they were against the pipeline, right?
	4:07pm glenn: best thai grilled chicken. www.bigoven.com...
	4:08pm Dean: Supplementing ifny @3:58, the contributions of Micah Lee to The Intercept: https://theintercept.com/staff/micah-lee/ In addition to substantive news articles, he gives practical security/privacy advice.
	4:14pm ifny: Lots of love to you folks down there from the up side of the border. We're thinking about you. If Cascadia goes ahead, there will always be a place for a NY/NJ satellite :)
	♥ 4:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx ifny. Some actually placed hope in Drumpf of breaking the Duhbya-Obama cycle of Regime Change foreign policy. Every indication is he'll go for Oligarchy & Nationalism - & his cabinet picks are all crazy RightWing. It's difficult of course to gauge how much his statements are mere Impulse - &/or Unreality TV Media Manipulation - but every indication there is we can't expect a terribly great amount of international humanitarianism in his Military policy...How much cooperation he gets from the Pentagon is another x factor...
	♥ 4:16pm melinda: @ifny: EFF is good. @Alex: yeah, the miltary knows climate change is happening and poses serious security threats. I wish more deniers knew that.
	♥ 4:18pm melinda: Trump's national security advisor sounds totally whacked. All his picks have been dreadful, it's hard to keep track but I hear that one is just nuts.
	4:19pm ifny: @Melinda @Dean @RevRabbit I think Ijeoma Olou has some good self-care advice too for us all www.theestablishment.co...
	♥ 4:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...expect a bully in the position of most powerful & responsible person on Planet Earth, in other words...
	4:26pm ifny: Ain't we playing? Solidarity is celebration yo!
	4:27pm glenn: he's a fucking psycho. www.rawstory.com...
	♥ 4:27pm melinda: Thanks for the link ifny.
	♥ 4:32pm melinda: @glenn: you're right.
	4:34pm ifny: @melinda my pleasure :)
	♥ 4:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Managing to make a dulcimer sound harpsichord-like. Neat-o.
	4:50pm Jason Elbogen: Once we all had a future.
	♥ 4:53pm fred: Who knew they were singing No Future back then too
	♥ 4:56pm Alex In Illinois: I go to Sea shanty sings every month
	5:00pm glenn: well, you always have a future. it just depends if it's going to be good or bad.
	♥ 5:01pm Alex In Illinois: Evidence-based knowledge is better than faith-based belief.
	♥ 5:01pm fred: I guess you have it sorted by genre already: it's all ethnic anyway
	5:02pm ifny: The Doukhabors are the most badass Christians I know: en.wikipedia.org... or www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca...
	♥ 5:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: No Blacks, Dogs or Irish.
	5:06pm glenn: because protesting naked is the best form of protest.
	5:07pm ifny: @glenn most of the time. When in doubt, strip. One of their songs features the sounds of chains as they are sent to a penal colony. The Canadian government has been trying to forcibly assimilate them for over 100 years. Naked protesting pacifists armed with TNT and lighters apparently freaks the state out.
	5:07pm northguineahills: I've only heard the Elizabeth Cotten version of shake sugaree
	5:07pm glenn: except in manitoba in february.
	5:08pm glenn: i'm not even sure if the doukhabors are still around.
	5:10pm ifny: @glenn of course they are. I had beers with one earlier this week.
	5:11pm glenn: before rosa parks, there was viola desmond. - www.theglobeandmail.com...
	5:11pm ifny: But yeah, forced assimilation/cultural genocide will fuck anyone's visibility/community up.
	5:11pm glenn: so a doukhabeer.
	♥ 5:12pm Alex In Illinois: I have a record of Rhiannon Giddens signing Shake Sugaree. Protesting Naked reminds me: Years ago, when Marshal Field's switched to Macy's, a naked protester showed up to protest the change, but he was the first show up at the door that morning, so he won a gift card for something like several hundred dollars.
	5:12pm ifny: @Jason Elbogen I poked around and found a Doukhabour song for you if you want it (don't think the chains one is online yet unfort): www.youtube.com...
	5:13pm ifny: @glenn doukhabeer, nice.
	♥ 5:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Alex: ...w/ no pocket to put it in...
	5:16pm Jason Elbogen: The Doukhabour seem interesting, I'll check it/them out later.
	♥ 5:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Jason ElvisBogusen...
	5:16pm glenn: where do you live, ifny?
	5:17pm ifny: Vancouver. You?
	5:18pm ifny: This Griffin song deserves a tortured ukulele cover.
	5:19pm glenn: toronto.
	5:19pm glenn: sorry about that hit on sedin.
	5:20pm kata: hello "Delilah" by Tom Jones~
	♥ 5:20pm Alex In Illinois: @RRN63: I guess he had to spend it at that moment, with racks of clothing in front of him. Well, maybe he had to take an escalator to Men's apparel. He probably had to walk past the perfume lady.
	5:23pm ifny: @glenn I had to google that...some kind of hockey apology? No worries. I'm one of the anarchists who didn't riot when we had the hockey riots.
	5:24pm ifny: I prefer bicycle jousting or Alley Cats.
	5:25pm glenn: yes, americans, it's true. canadians WILL riot, as long as it's about something super important, like hockey.
	5:25pm ifny: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
	5:26pm ifny: No, the frying pan is ON the fire.
	5:27pm ifny: Sizzling vs. immolation.
	♥ 5:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...you flip out of the pan & into the fire beneath it - that's what it means - from bad to even worse...
	♥ 5:27pm Alex In Illinois: A frying pan sits on top of the stove. So it is a way of saying going from bad to worse.
	5:27pm ifny: Hehe you thought things were bad, and now they're worse. Yes, the fire is the bad thing.
	5:28pm ifny: SAFETY THIRD EVERYONE.
	5:29pm ifny: Ain't no guy!
	♥ 5:30pm Alex In Illinois: I'm am still trying to process the idea of Canadians rioting. I think of Canadians as being what we Yankees could be like if we each got an average of 8 hours of sleep every night.
	5:31pm ifny: Just because I drink doubkabeers and avoid hockey riots doesn't make me a dude. #defaultman
	♥ 5:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There is beer, however. & you have to keep warm. Presuming no frying pans or furnaces nearby.
	5:32pm ifny: @Alex in Illinois: you gotta spend more time on the left coast then. We're volatile, despite the constant contact high.
	♥ 5:33pm Alex In Illinois: I work with Canadians over our company network, not on the left coast, though. Some in the Toronto office and others in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island.
	5:33pm northguineahills: Didn't Vancouver riot over the Canucks a few years back? That was a Canadian riot.
	5:35pm ifny: @northguineahills Yeah, and the mayor tried to blame it on anarchists at first, who were at home watching it on the internet and shaking their heads. One of many ironies that night.
	5:37pm glenn: is gerry hannah still in jail? he was a volatile vancouverite.
	5:38pm glenn: jeez. time flies.
	5:41pm ifny: @AlexInIllinois Not that it isn't happening elsewhere too, but out here there's a strong legacy of people tending to warrior-up for trees, pipelines, indigenous sovereignty, wildlife etc. One more interesting argument for Cascadian Independence ;)
	5:41pm ifny: @glenn Don't think so...
	5:42pm ifny: Looks like he got out in 2010 en.wikipedia.org...
	5:43pm ifny: @Jason Elbogen fitting @glenn mentions Gerry Hannah during the punk set -- you might want to play some Subhumans :)
	5:46pm glenn: or art bergmann.
	♥ 5:48pm Alex In Illinois: @ifny: Well, I have heard about protests, but I didn't think they had become riots. For example, did you see any footage of the South Koreans protesting the corruption of their president? Singing or chanting in unison, standing in orderly rows, holding candles and flashlights. I think at some points, they just stood together in silence--a calm and serious protest.
	5:48pm ifny: It bears repeating, this is a great fucking show. And besides the wonderful efforts of our host, part of the reason I feel this way is the comment section.
	5:53pm ifny: @Alex news doesn't always travel far. For example, there was a lot of stuff going during the Olympics and Occupy. And riots is often a characterisation by the State anyway, right? It has a certain set of connotations. It is also one tactic among many. And it's often ephemeral (which has specific limitations and strengths). On a related note, sometimes people, especially in Indigeneous circles, talk about being 'land defenders' rather than 'protestors' -- it's a different praxis, though sometimes objectives may be similar/complementary.
	♥ 5:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Too easy to take exceptional quality (...& this surely qualifies as an exception...) for granted. Yes Thank You Mr. Elbogen.
	5:55pm ifny: But yeah, the word "riot" is a whole can of wormwood :)
	♥ 5:56pm melinda: This has a nice jaunty feel.
	5:56pm Dean: The melody of "Congratulations" owes something to George Harrison's "It's Johnny's Birthday."
	5:57pm ifny: @AlexInIll: I haven't been following SK much but it sure sounds powerful. A Quiet Riot perhaps?
	5:57pm Dean: Aha! "Although originally given a composer credit to George Harrison, the song takes its melody from Cliff Richard's 1968 hit Congratulations."
	5:57pm northguineahills: Thanks Jason, enjoy the weekend!
	♥ 5:58pm fred: Thanks Jason, this was a great show
	5:59pm glenn: toodles, doodles.
	5:59pm ifny: Of course it's real radio. Freeform we do what TF we want. It's interdimensional radio. I used to have an IRC room with my radio show.
	6:00pm ifny: @glenn great to talk to you. Give my regards to the capital ;)
	♥ 6:00pm melinda: Great show! You're right, there isn't really a pre-internet parallel to the WFMU comment board. I like it.
	♥ 6:00pm Rich in Washington: I love the interactivity afforded by the WFMU commenting system. It's fun for the listener. It's like a club. Or gang. Or something.
	6:01pm ifny: It's a riot!! Badoomcha~
	♥ 6:01pm Rich in Washington: The few times I've subbed on GTDR stream, it's been a lot of fun chatting with listeners. I wish my regular station had that kind of interactivity. I do get nice calls from cabbies, all-night bakery workers, drunk people. Some of them even say they like what I'm playing.
	♥ 6:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Now - there's a thing. Do Comments detract from the Playlist? The right ambience @ a party encourages interaction - I think it's analogous to. I respect every DJ's choice - no playlist, no comments...But listening to other streams I miss Comments & Favoriting...
	6:02pm ifny: On Melinda's note, I wonder if maybe CBs were a precursor, if not directly...truckers listening to the same radio station on the road and chatting?
	♥ 6:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting ifny.
	6:03pm ifny: Yay #notdefaultman

Jason Elbogen: Playlist from December 9, 2016

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Groupe Simbe Y-An-Deh-Zo	Dan Pedro	Vaudou En Haiti [1972 Macaya/IBO Records]	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Kunitaka Sato 里国隆	[5] "[5]" by "Kunitaka Sato 里国隆"	A Street Singer From Amami	0:10:48 (Pop-up)
Al Balabil	Mashena, Mashena (We Went)	The Lost 45s of Sudan (ShellacHead Annual 2015)	0:13:27 (Pop-up)
Nai Yanyong Prongnamchai, Nang Paitoon Kittivan, and Nai Jerm Kertchaitrong	Pleng Nohra	VA - Drums of Thailand [FW 4215]	0:16:39 (Pop-up)
Angkanang Kunchai	Lam Phloen Ramwong Lao	Never Forget Me (1979/2016 EM Records)	0:20:12 (Pop-up)

Ray Sunshine	Wake Up, America "Wake Up, America" by "Ray Sunshine"	Blue Skies Forever (1979)	0:33:43 (Pop-up)
Xanadu (Deer Park, L.I.)	Set Me Free	VA - Soundscape Long Island (1980 KRS)	0:36:24 (Pop-up)
Freedom Singers	CIA-Visan "CIA-Visan" by "Freedom Singers"	Antiimperialistiska Sanger (1970)	0:40:41 (Pop-up)
Foot Village	The End of the World	Make Memories (Northern Spy 2013)	0:45:40 (Pop-up)

Friends of Gas	Lost Somebody "Lost Somebody" by "Friends of Gas"	Tape (2016)	0:58:07 (Pop-up)
Michael Mayer & Burger/Voigt & Voigt	Disco Dancers	& (K7 2016)	1:01:59 (Pop-up)
Scraps	Baby Baby "Baby Baby" by "Scraps"	ttnik (Moontown Records 2016)	1:06:42 (Pop-up)
Sidiku Buari and His Jam Busters	Minsumobo	And His Jam Busters (Star?) [1982 Precious Records NY]	1:14:14 (Pop-up)
Ogre You Asshole	everythingsomethingnothing	everythingsomethingnothing (2016 P-Vine)	1:20:44 (Pop-up)

Evelyn Lohoefer De Boeck and Beth Osgood Chanock	Soaring in Space and Feeling Free/Can You Keep Up?	Drum Talk and Going Places (1968 Educational Activities)	1:29:51 (Pop-up)
Menihaku Tribe + [other tribes]	Neperi-Narina	Ritos de Passagem	1:40:05 (Pop-up)
[Various Maramures Musicians]	Draga Mi-I Veselia	VA - Mamamures [1979 Elecrecord Romania]	1:43:53 (Pop-up)
Mark Ortiz	Shantyman's Life "Shantyman's Life" by "Mark Ortiz"	Dulcimer and Vocal [1975 Test Press, No Label]	1:45:18 (Pop-up)
Ernest V. Stoneman and his Dixie Mountaineers	Once I Had A Future	Ernest V. Stoneman & His Dixie Mountaineers 1927-1928	1:49:04 (Pop-up)

Gay Minnich	He's Everything to Me	In His Hands (1975 Lester E Martin Recording Service)	2:00:31 (Pop-up)
Da Ron & Landy Maughon	Jesus, Come Take Us Home	Da Ron & Landy Maughon (1978 Mark Five)	2:02:48 (Pop-up)
The Paulette Interpretation	Shake Sugaree	The Paulette Interpretation [196x]	2:05:28 (Pop-up)
The Something New	Let's Start "Let's Start" by "The Something New"	Are You Listening? (1971 Century)	2:08:36 (Pop-up)
Ronnie McDowell	I Love You, I Love You, I Love You	I Love You, I Love You, I Love You (1978 Scorpion Records)	2:13:08 (Pop-up)
Ronald Griffin	It Isn't Hard To Be A Neighbor	Who Hath Ears Let Him Hear [Mustard Seed 1977]	2:16:34 (Pop-up)
Arts Degree	Going To Saudi Arabia	Issue #2 (2016)	2:21:49 (Pop-up)

Raif	First Impressions "First Impressions" by "Raif"	Raif is Not Whatever CS (2016)	2:30:12 (Pop-up)
Berlin Township Elementary School Stage Band	A Rhythm Fiesta	A Rhythm Fiesta (No Label 1977)	2:32:17 (Pop-up)
Xanadu (Deer Park, L.I.)	Without You	VA - Soundscape Long Island (1980 KRS)	2:36:17 (Pop-up)
Maxamillion Raxatrillion	Rule of Thumb	Maxamillion Raxatrillion/Handsome Eric Split CS (2016)	2:41:04 (Pop-up)
Snickers	Ria/Ashita Do Naru "Ria/Ashita Do Naru" by "Snickers"	On the Hi Fi [7" EP Stimulus Progression 2016]	2:43:22 (Pop-up)
Claire Charasz	La Issez Moi Lever Mon Pain	La mare au diable (CC1 1971)	2:46:29 (Pop-up)
Dolly Mixture	Everything and More	Everything And More ‎(7" 1982 Respond)	2:47:49 (Pop-up)
White Poppy	Clam Happy "Clam Happy" by "White Poppy"	Natural Phenomena (2016)	2:50:31 (Pop-up)
Pool Hayes Rock Band	Congratulations	ST (Studio One 1977)	2:53:48 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	♥ 3:05pm fred: Good afternoon Jason
	3:06pm Jason Elbogen: Hey Fred, hope you're well!
	♥ 3:07pm Ike: Hello. I like Elmhurst. Any idea if Chao Thai is still good? I haven't been lately.
	♥ 3:09pm melinda: hola
	3:14pm Jason Elbogen: Hey Ike! Funny--did I mention Chao Thai a long long time ago?
	♥ 3:14pm Alex In Illinois: Elmhurst Illinois? I have not been to Chao Thai, but I just looked it up and it is still there. The part of Elmhurst I have spent the most time in is the Hospital and the Toyota dealer. It is a very good hospital, though I have never stayed overnight.
	♥ 3:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Set off to a great start.
	3:19pm ifny: Holy snowbank, great way to get this party started. Drummer's in the House!
	♥ 3:20pm Ike: Not sure, Jason. I just bring it up because you mentioned Elmhurst, and that used to be quite possibly the best Thai food in Queens. I've gone to Khao Kang recently, but not Chao. I was disappointed when Chao Too closed, but at least the original is still there, last I checked.
	3:25pm ifny: Ok so I just looked up Pleng Nohra on YT to see if I could find it, but instead I found this which just blew my mind clean off. At first I thought he was making a traditional fishing hole, but no...can't wait to try this. To hell with fish anyway: www.youtube.com...
	♥ 3:26pm fred: Already two clicky-stars, this is looking like a fantastic show
	♥ 3:29pm Ike: Thanks Jason. Yeah, I used to spend a lot of time on Chowhound too, and I might have seen you around there at one point or another. "Downhill alert" has crept into my personal jargon as well.
	♥ 3:33pm melinda: As far as jargon goes that sounds ok.
	♥ 3:34pm fred: I remember a Laotian student in college who had a long name too. The teachers were afraid to mangle her name so she got away with a lot
	♥ 3:36pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Jason and Drummer enthusiasts.
	♥ 3:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Now - what possible reason could Jewish people have for being concerned about racial scapegoating for economic &/or national frustrations? Germany was an especially 'civilized' country. We are in big trouble, & need to organize Resistance. Orwell was right I'm afraid: there is no being apolitical.
	3:37pm Leonardo: Turn it up!
	♥ 3:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fugs cover?
	3:45pm Jason Elbogen: Yes! Fugs!
	♥ 3:51pm fred: Foot Village! Excellent live band
	♥ 3:57pm melinda: I thought it sounded familiar.
	3:58pm ifny: @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 and everyone who's pissed and/or frightened: useful links useful if you haven't seen them already: EFF's digital security guide: <www.eff.org... antifa resource roundup: <antifascistnetwork.org... and if you know any academics, here's a pdf about militant research: <steinhardt.nyu.edu...
	♥ 4:01pm fred: I only started seeing a lot of shows in my mid thirties. Maybe because I never was in a band
	♥ 4:06pm Alex In Illinois: The military is not necessarily happy about the what is occurring. Much of the Navy confirms that Global Climate change is in progress. All or most recent veterans holding or running for office have been Democrats. The Veterans for Standing Rock, they were against the pipeline, right?
	4:07pm glenn: best thai grilled chicken. www.bigoven.com...
	4:08pm Dean: Supplementing ifny @3:58, the contributions of Micah Lee to The Intercept: https://theintercept.com/staff/micah-lee/ In addition to substantive news articles, he gives practical security/privacy advice.
	4:14pm ifny: Lots of love to you folks down there from the up side of the border. We're thinking about you. If Cascadia goes ahead, there will always be a place for a NY/NJ satellite :)
	♥ 4:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx ifny. Some actually placed hope in Drumpf of breaking the Duhbya-Obama cycle of Regime Change foreign policy. Every indication is he'll go for Oligarchy & Nationalism - & his cabinet picks are all crazy RightWing. It's difficult of course to gauge how much his statements are mere Impulse - &/or Unreality TV Media Manipulation - but every indication there is we can't expect a terribly great amount of international humanitarianism in his Military policy...How much cooperation he gets from the Pentagon is another x factor...
	♥ 4:16pm melinda: @ifny: EFF is good. @Alex: yeah, the miltary knows climate change is happening and poses serious security threats. I wish more deniers knew that.
	♥ 4:18pm melinda: Trump's national security advisor sounds totally whacked. All his picks have been dreadful, it's hard to keep track but I hear that one is just nuts.
	4:19pm ifny: @Melinda @Dean @RevRabbit I think Ijeoma Olou has some good self-care advice too for us all www.theestablishment.co...
	♥ 4:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...expect a bully in the position of most powerful & responsible person on Planet Earth, in other words...
	4:26pm ifny: Ain't we playing? Solidarity is celebration yo!
	4:27pm glenn: he's a fucking psycho. www.rawstory.com...
	♥ 4:27pm melinda: Thanks for the link ifny.
	♥ 4:32pm melinda: @glenn: you're right.
	4:34pm ifny: @melinda my pleasure :)
	♥ 4:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Managing to make a dulcimer sound harpsichord-like. Neat-o.
	4:50pm Jason Elbogen: Once we all had a future.
	♥ 4:53pm fred: Who knew they were singing No Future back then too
	♥ 4:56pm Alex In Illinois: I go to Sea shanty sings every month
	5:00pm glenn: well, you always have a future. it just depends if it's going to be good or bad.
	♥ 5:01pm Alex In Illinois: Evidence-based knowledge is better than faith-based belief.
	♥ 5:01pm fred: I guess you have it sorted by genre already: it's all ethnic anyway
	5:02pm ifny: The Doukhabors are the most badass Christians I know: en.wikipedia.org... or www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca...
	♥ 5:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: No Blacks, Dogs or Irish.
	5:06pm glenn: because protesting naked is the best form of protest.
	5:07pm ifny: @glenn most of the time. When in doubt, strip. One of their songs features the sounds of chains as they are sent to a penal colony. The Canadian government has been trying to forcibly assimilate them for over 100 years. Naked protesting pacifists armed with TNT and lighters apparently freaks the state out.
	5:07pm northguineahills: I've only heard the Elizabeth Cotten version of shake sugaree
	5:07pm glenn: except in manitoba in february.
	5:08pm glenn: i'm not even sure if the doukhabors are still around.
	5:10pm ifny: @glenn of course they are. I had beers with one earlier this week.
	5:11pm glenn: before rosa parks, there was viola desmond. - www.theglobeandmail.com...
	5:11pm ifny: But yeah, forced assimilation/cultural genocide will fuck anyone's visibility/community up.
	5:11pm glenn: so a doukhabeer.
	♥ 5:12pm Alex In Illinois: I have a record of Rhiannon Giddens signing Shake Sugaree. Protesting Naked reminds me: Years ago, when Marshal Field's switched to Macy's, a naked protester showed up to protest the change, but he was the first show up at the door that morning, so he won a gift card for something like several hundred dollars.
	5:12pm ifny: @Jason Elbogen I poked around and found a Doukhabour song for you if you want it (don't think the chains one is online yet unfort): www.youtube.com...
	5:13pm ifny: @glenn doukhabeer, nice.
	♥ 5:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Alex: ...w/ no pocket to put it in...
	5:16pm Jason Elbogen: The Doukhabour seem interesting, I'll check it/them out later.
	♥ 5:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Jason ElvisBogusen...
	5:16pm glenn: where do you live, ifny?
	5:17pm ifny: Vancouver. You?
	5:18pm ifny: This Griffin song deserves a tortured ukulele cover.
	5:19pm glenn: toronto.
	5:19pm glenn: sorry about that hit on sedin.
	5:20pm kata: hello "Delilah" by Tom Jones~
	♥ 5:20pm Alex In Illinois: @RRN63: I guess he had to spend it at that moment, with racks of clothing in front of him. Well, maybe he had to take an escalator to Men's apparel. He probably had to walk past the perfume lady.
	5:23pm ifny: @glenn I had to google that...some kind of hockey apology? No worries. I'm one of the anarchists who didn't riot when we had the hockey riots.
	5:24pm ifny: I prefer bicycle jousting or Alley Cats.
	5:25pm glenn: yes, americans, it's true. canadians WILL riot, as long as it's about something super important, like hockey.
	5:25pm ifny: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
	5:26pm ifny: No, the frying pan is ON the fire.
	5:27pm ifny: Sizzling vs. immolation.
	♥ 5:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...you flip out of the pan & into the fire beneath it - that's what it means - from bad to even worse...
	♥ 5:27pm Alex In Illinois: A frying pan sits on top of the stove. So it is a way of saying going from bad to worse.
	5:27pm ifny: Hehe you thought things were bad, and now they're worse. Yes, the fire is the bad thing.
	5:28pm ifny: SAFETY THIRD EVERYONE.
	5:29pm ifny: Ain't no guy!
	♥ 5:30pm Alex In Illinois: I'm am still trying to process the idea of Canadians rioting. I think of Canadians as being what we Yankees could be like if we each got an average of 8 hours of sleep every night.
	5:31pm ifny: Just because I drink doubkabeers and avoid hockey riots doesn't make me a dude. #defaultman
	♥ 5:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There is beer, however. & you have to keep warm. Presuming no frying pans or furnaces nearby.
	5:32pm ifny: @Alex in Illinois: you gotta spend more time on the left coast then. We're volatile, despite the constant contact high.
	♥ 5:33pm Alex In Illinois: I work with Canadians over our company network, not on the left coast, though. Some in the Toronto office and others in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island.
	5:33pm northguineahills: Didn't Vancouver riot over the Canucks a few years back? That was a Canadian riot.
	5:35pm ifny: @northguineahills Yeah, and the mayor tried to blame it on anarchists at first, who were at home watching it on the internet and shaking their heads. One of many ironies that night.
	5:37pm glenn: is gerry hannah still in jail? he was a volatile vancouverite.
	5:38pm glenn: jeez. time flies.
	5:41pm ifny: @AlexInIllinois Not that it isn't happening elsewhere too, but out here there's a strong legacy of people tending to warrior-up for trees, pipelines, indigenous sovereignty, wildlife etc. One more interesting argument for Cascadian Independence ;)
	5:41pm ifny: @glenn Don't think so...
	5:42pm ifny: Looks like he got out in 2010 en.wikipedia.org...
	5:43pm ifny: @Jason Elbogen fitting @glenn mentions Gerry Hannah during the punk set -- you might want to play some Subhumans :)
	5:46pm glenn: or art bergmann.
	♥ 5:48pm Alex In Illinois: @ifny: Well, I have heard about protests, but I didn't think they had become riots. For example, did you see any footage of the South Koreans protesting the corruption of their president? Singing or chanting in unison, standing in orderly rows, holding candles and flashlights. I think at some points, they just stood together in silence--a calm and serious protest.
	5:48pm ifny: It bears repeating, this is a great fucking show. And besides the wonderful efforts of our host, part of the reason I feel this way is the comment section.
	5:53pm ifny: @Alex news doesn't always travel far. For example, there was a lot of stuff going during the Olympics and Occupy. And riots is often a characterisation by the State anyway, right? It has a certain set of connotations. It is also one tactic among many. And it's often ephemeral (which has specific limitations and strengths). On a related note, sometimes people, especially in Indigeneous circles, talk about being 'land defenders' rather than 'protestors' -- it's a different praxis, though sometimes objectives may be similar/complementary.
	♥ 5:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Too easy to take exceptional quality (...& this surely qualifies as an exception...) for granted. Yes Thank You Mr. Elbogen.
	5:55pm ifny: But yeah, the word "riot" is a whole can of wormwood :)
	♥ 5:56pm melinda: This has a nice jaunty feel.
	5:56pm Dean: The melody of "Congratulations" owes something to George Harrison's "It's Johnny's Birthday."
	5:57pm ifny: @AlexInIll: I haven't been following SK much but it sure sounds powerful. A Quiet Riot perhaps?
	5:57pm Dean: Aha! "Although originally given a composer credit to George Harrison, the song takes its melody from Cliff Richard's 1968 hit Congratulations."
	5:57pm northguineahills: Thanks Jason, enjoy the weekend!
	♥ 5:58pm fred: Thanks Jason, this was a great show
	5:59pm glenn: toodles, doodles.
	5:59pm ifny: Of course it's real radio. Freeform we do what TF we want. It's interdimensional radio. I used to have an IRC room with my radio show.
	6:00pm ifny: @glenn great to talk to you. Give my regards to the capital ;)
	♥ 6:00pm melinda: Great show! You're right, there isn't really a pre-internet parallel to the WFMU comment board. I like it.
	♥ 6:00pm Rich in Washington: I love the interactivity afforded by the WFMU commenting system. It's fun for the listener. It's like a club. Or gang. Or something.
	6:01pm ifny: It's a riot!! Badoomcha~
	♥ 6:01pm Rich in Washington: The few times I've subbed on GTDR stream, it's been a lot of fun chatting with listeners. I wish my regular station had that kind of interactivity. I do get nice calls from cabbies, all-night bakery workers, drunk people. Some of them even say they like what I'm playing.
	♥ 6:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Now - there's a thing. Do Comments detract from the Playlist? The right ambience @ a party encourages interaction - I think it's analogous to. I respect every DJ's choice - no playlist, no comments...But listening to other streams I miss Comments & Favoriting...
	6:02pm ifny: On Melinda's note, I wonder if maybe CBs were a precursor, if not directly...truckers listening to the same radio station on the road and chatting?
	♥ 6:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting ifny.
	6:03pm ifny: Yay #notdefaultman

Jason Elbogen: Playlist from December 9, 2016

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