WFMU: Micah: Playlist from February 12, 2016

Listener comments!
	6:02am Billy London: Good morning Micah! And fellow wfmooers!
	6:03am micah: good morning billy
	6:15am Cooh John: Good morning. Thanks, I need your show to counteract the entropy in my life.
	6:29am annie: good morning!!
	6:31am Billy London: Woo gravity waves!
	6:32am micah: morning annie
	6:34am annie: sometimes is difficult for me to grasp the day of the week.. i really thought it was saturday.. for almost half an hour. good thing i have the FMU schedule at ready and the handy-dandy DJ to remind me.
	6:40am pierre: that big voice sounded like Ken when on his show… Bonjour Micah
	6:41am micah: allo pierre
	6:42am Billy London: Oh wow loving that smooth mall organ demo feeling of this track.
	6:44am Billy London: Sounds like a Gimmel 100 organ
	6:57am Ken From Hyde Park: 167 hours since the last mind control. I'm ready for more!
	6:57am micah: thats what i like to hear ken from hyde park!
	7:03am annie: i think i found a very recent upload to youtube for IFTS. shall watch today. want a link?
	7:04am micah: sure
	7:07am micah: I mean, i have it, so you dont have to post for me, but for other folks maybe
	7:08am annie: www.youtube.com... "Ice From the Sun"
	7:10am annie: i rarely say how glad i am to see the end of any space of time eg: the week, but this has been one roller coaster... only very little of what i wanted to do has been done. and my list grows.. maybe there's a smooth spot coming up. this music helps
	7:19am Billy London: Damn god is God is a organ sing along tour de force!
	7:20am Slazenger: Good Morning Micah. I am able to listen from my desk this morning. Enjoy your day as much as I will be enjoying your show.
	7:22am Cliff: Good morning Micah and everybody, I've heard you do a couple fill-ins but this is my first time listening live.
	7:25am micah: welcome cliff
	7:26am annie: i haven't heard such a fascinating show in a long time, micah. i'm so glad you have are on fmu, how could we ever have known all this?
	7:27am micah: thats why im doing this annie! glad that you "get it"
	7:27am Santos L Halper: Morning Micah. Drove by that Nuwabian compound years ago, pretty wild. Not sure if it's still there...
	7:29am Cliff: Pretty trippy listening to this stuff after a bad night of sleep and being up since 5:30 this morning.
	7:30am Cliff: I guess that's how they get the cult members under control, right?
	7:33am Cliff: And this sounds kind of like a mashup of Public Enemy with some recent KRS-One lyrics, which would be awesome if it wasn't being used for the purposes of EEEEVIL
	7:38am ausmanx: as a language person, ms annie, you may care to know that i discovered this week the Russian term for "rollercoaster" actually translates literally as "the American mountains"/ meanwhile, work tonight is a doco about the underground Free Theatre in Belarus. amazing. no cults tolerated there, i fear! but plenty of mind control going on
	7:41am annie: i sometimes wonder how these people come up with such seemingly outlandish claims, it's almost as if they are channeling an ancient beliefe system from back into another millenium. i truly believe that the concoiusness of past cultures, even otherworldly, is in our cells and minds. i almost question nothing, but worry about those who use this to opress.. it's a fascinating thing. i think we are domesticated now, pets, as it were, of an alien culture.
	7:45am Cliff: annie, that sounds pretty accurate to me.
	7:47am annie: aus, my favorite author, anthony burgess, had such a broad proficiency of russian. my favorite word? "horrowshow sedim", a transliteration of course. horrowshow is understoond as "great, wonderful, fabulous" and sedim "with friends", to the best of my memory. so, hoowshow sedim means: "i'm happy to be here with my friends" and Alex used horrorshow quite a bit to describe his joy. in earlier editions of Clockwork Orange, there was quite a good glossary, and fun to incorporate that vernacular into my speech..
	7:47am annie: thanks cliff, i'm reassured that i'm not schitzoid.
	7:48am micah: yea annie theres alot of psychological harum scarum attached to this stuff indeedy doo
	7:48am BrianFromMA: Where did you find these recordings? Nice to know that the world is even stranger than I thought. Or maybe not ;)
	7:56am Wild Neil: @Annie-one time when I was really really drunk in tenth grade I did that with lines from Clockwork Orange....and I used to have the one with the glossary...
	7:56am Cliff: annie, there are some anthropologists who say the Agricultural Revolution in the stone age was the worst disaster to befall mankind, as it turned us from small bands of clever hunter-gatherers to overpopulated masses of dumb, obese grunts who are satisfied with circuses and bread with a tiny elite in control of everything. So maybe that's how the alien presence first got their claws in our brains, by teaching us how to grow grain.
	7:57am melinda: This is nice to wake up to.
	8:01am annie: cliff, in this life, all things are very possible.. and that's not so far-fetched as you'd think this is such a fascinating incarnation, huh? scary, too...
	8:02am annie: i'm a huge fan of djwahl kuhl.. huge!!
	8:03am Cliff: Very much in agreement, annie
	8:03am Wild Neil: @Cliff-I have heard theories that some plants are responsible for our growth as a society such as wheat and marijuana....and coca?
	8:04am annie: and, much to the chagrin of many of my more-sober friends, i admire the work of alice bailey..
	8:06am annie: many years ago i heard a snippet on the radio: a fellow walking down the street feeling depressed.. someone gives him a pill labelled "life", and after he takes it he becomes higher and higher, eventually becoming "high on life". i live by that principle
	8:07am annie: hehe, i think that's why i'm still single at 63
	8:07am micah: right on annie
	8:09am Wild Neil: This sounds Slavic, maybe Polish...
	8:09am annie: neil, IMHO, the diversity language is all we have left to keep us sharp-minded
	8:09am ausmanx: i fear it's a great problem that people think their lives can change and depression can be lifted by taking a pill; the metaphor is not a metaphor...
	8:11am annie: we have surely slipped from the path of joy, aus
	8:11am Cliff: Wlld Neil - Terrence McKenna wrote a book called Food of the Gods that argues something like that, he also includes hallucinogenic plants and mushrooms as a contributor to the growth of human intelligence. Some of McKenna's other ideas were pretty out there but I think this one is plausible.
	8:13am Wild Neil: I am generally pretty happy, satisfied with what I have. That is my nature.@Cliff-maybe that's where the comments came from that I heard....being a very traditional Catholic, I believe intelligence comes from our creator...still, its an interesting hypothesis...
	8:14am annie: aus, this physical body i'm in now tends to suffer from depression in the early spring of the year.. hit's like a ton of bricks, then fades.. i have my theories on that... but i can handle it BECAUSE i understand it.
	8:15am Wild Neil: @Annie-I know from personal experience that vitamin D can be a help in the winter when there is much less sunlight...could it be vitamin D deficiency?
	8:16am Cliff: Wild Neil - I've been a practicing meditator on my own for years now, and have come to believe that we are all participating within a greater mind and there is some kind of intelligence guiding all of this apparent chaos going on around us.
	8:16am JG: Supergood stuff d00d
	8:17am annie: oh no, i love winter and the dark. it's MY time of year, which is why it sucks.. the coming of spring is my most anticipated time of year.
	8:17am annie: and i sit in the sun constantly.
	8:18am Wild Neil: @Cliff-well, that's interesting. I think we would agree there is no such thing as a coincidence...
	8:19am Cliff: I've been taking a teaspoon of Carlson's Norwegian cod liver oil for a few months now, it contains Omega-3s and Vitamins D and E. I'm feeling a lot more emotionally balanced this winter than I have in the past, and I live in Upstate NY where the weather's generally pretty gloomy (though it hasn't been too bad this year).
	8:19am Cliff: Of course, quitting my stressful job back in November is probably helping my emotional state too :)
	8:20am Cliff: Wild Neil, I'd go further and say that the guiding intelligence operates in our world through the use of coincidence.
	8:22am Wild Neil: @Micha-dead air or no signal? I hear nothing...
	8:22am annie: right on, cliff
	8:22am Wild Neil: Never mind!
	8:23am Cliff: annie, I get seasonal depression every winter and summer like clockwork, and then a couple months of normalcy every spring and fall. I suspect I'm type II Bipolar. I'm hoping the cod liver oil will help with that. (I don't want to have to see a psychiatrist, have had lots of problems with them in the past)
	8:25am annie: truly, biorhythms must have an impact.. yes, summer, too for me. i get weepy and sad.. after 6 decades i can finally be prepared, it took me half my life to understand it. are you cold up there right now, my friend in watertown is subzero temps.. i come from oneonta, myself
	8:26am Cliff: I'm in Syracuse, it's 14 degrees this morning. We haven't had any below-zero days this winter, pretty unusual (not that I'm complaining!)
	8:27am Wild Neil: @Cliff-I am sorry to hear you think you are bipolar. A good licenced counselor, according to my brother, can be of much more help. The phsychiatrist is merely there to monitor meds effects, not the "big picture" over the course of weeks and months. Finding a good counselor is the key. I hear there are some that really suck....find one that subscribes o your belief system so you are "in sync" if possible....
	8:28am Wild Neil: My brother is bipolar....you see...
	8:31am Cliff: Wild Neil, I've been seeing a psychologist since just before I quit my job. I picked a psychologist specifically because they're not allowed to prescribe meds, I want to focus on talk therapy. When I was in grad school 10 years ago, I got referred to a psychiatrist for sleep issues and wasted a year of my life going through a smorgasbord of various antidepressants and other things before I quit seeing her. Never been the same since. Antidepressants can exacerbate cycling in Bipolar individuals which is another reason why I suspect that diagnosis.
	8:32am Cliff: And best wishes to your brother, I hope he's handling things ok.
	8:33am Cliff: annie, are you still living in the area?
	8:35am melinda: There are so many different possible physiological causes for depression.
	8:35am annie: my young friend, dave, suffered from manic-depression most of his life until he found hindu-ism and buddhism. he is totally off lithium now for close to 10 years.practices meditation.. i love the progress he's made. hey cliff, you have 2 nick's diners in syracuse. expect a visit this summer.. my son and i are doing a nick's diner tour across the country.... no cliff i live in asheville now, the city on a mountain of quartz..
	8:41am Cliff: My Auntie Lee lives in Swanananoa, which is near Asheville I think. Never been to Nick's Diner, must be pretty good if you're doing a country-wide tour huh? :)
	8:44am Cliff: And meditation has definitely helped to settle my mind too. But it kinda screwed me up at first, because I thought I had to find a teacher or "enlightened master" or whatever to follow.....that's BS. Fell into a kooky Buddhist crowd a few years ago and have had to unprogram myself since then from some of their ideology.
	8:45am annie: yes, swannanoa is part of asheville not far from my house..the 2 nick's diners are: nick's place on S.Salina and the other is on manlius. we're doing the tour out of nostalgia for the one in oneonta that closed... oddly enough, or not, the places i've called have had others on the same trip!
	8:46am annie: the best meditation is walking in the woods, or even doing laindry.. if ys dig my drift; it's ALL meditation, walking meditation; awareness of all..
	8:46am Cliff: Cool, I'll have to check out the one on S. Salina then, should be able to get to it pretty easily taking the bus. (And do you know the proper pronunciation of "Salina"?)
	8:47am annie: long I?
	8:49am Cliff: annie, yes, that's what I'm trying to figure out now, how to bring the peace from mediation into every aspect of my life. Nope, it's the diphthong in "buy" or "sky". "suh-LYE-nuh"
	8:49am Cliff: If you use an automated GPS, it'll probably pronounce it "suh-LEE-nuh" which drives me nuts :P
	8:51am annie: the trick, cliff, is to become detached from results or expectations and treat each thing for what it is.. things do not happen because of you.. they just happen.
	8:51am annie: and you are your own best guru.. only you know what's in your mind and how it works.
	8:51am Cliff: That's how us Syracusans can tell if someone's from out of town, if they ask for directions to "suh-LEE-nuh" street ;)
	8:52am annie: duly noted, cliff!!! :)
	8:55am Cliff: annie, I get what you're saying about being detached from expectations, but at the same time the kooky Buddhists I fell out with used that as a trick to zombify newbies. That's one of the things I'm unlearning now, I became a little too detached from life and got pretty dissociated from everything.
	8:58am Cliff: I'd say things don't happen solely because of me, or not at all because of me, but rather that I am an active participant in bringing things into fruition.
	8:58am annie: i understand... there will be a time when you know how to temper that.. it's an on-going work of art, so to speak.
	8:58am annie: yes.. exactly^
	8:58am Cliff: Enjoyed the show Micah, and the kibitzing Wild Neil and annie :)

Micah: Playlist from February 12, 2016

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Field recordings from the noosphere, music of mind control, self organizing feedback loops for singularitarians of all shapes and sizes.

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February 12, 2016

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
flick	wormhole "wormhole" by "flick"	st	2000		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
ron slabe	entropy "entropy" by "ron slabe"	zagadka	1984		0:09:52 (Pop-up)
windflower	god is passing by "god is passing by" by "windflower"	st	1974		0:17:02 (Pop-up)
franz bontgen	sitting at home is so easy	st	1974		0:19:59 (Pop-up)
lee farmer	no one left i can talk to	to a western sky	1977		0:24:57 (Pop-up)

aidan baker	trotto "trotto" by "aidan baker"	dance of lonely molecules			0:31:49 (Pop-up)
	sounds and dialogue from "Ice from the Sun"				0:37:55 (Pop-up)
larry ober	feel like making love "feel like making love" by "larry ober"				0:40:20 (Pop-up)
the playground	the rain, the wind and other things	fading yellow vol 5			0:43:20 (Pop-up)
crystal webb	came up drunk "came up drunk" by "crystal webb"	misty morning	1973		0:45:54 (Pop-up)
su kramer	die grune witwe "die grune witwe" by "su kramer"	Die Zwei Gesichter	1978		0:48:18 (Pop-up)
diana nasution	oh nasibku "oh nasibku" by "diana nasution"	Hatiky Bernyanyi	1979		0:52:02 (Pop-up)
mcully workshop inc	years of my life	st	1970		0:55:26 (Pop-up)

mahanaim satya	kusulu "kusulu" by "mahanaim satya"	celestial seas		the way of truth	1:03:48 (Pop-up)

RW Shambach	god is god "god is god" by "RW Shambach"				1:13:03 (Pop-up)

ntelek	york for president "york for president" by "ntelek"			nuwaubian nation	1:24:30 (Pop-up)
ntelek	its not over "its not over" by "ntelek"			nuwaubian nation	1:28:25 (Pop-up)

the brother hood of the cross and star	bell of joy				1:36:15 (Pop-up)
the brother hood of the cross and star	fullfillment				1:39:45 (Pop-up)

the church of wells	alas, and did my saviour bleed				1:47:11 (Pop-up)
hannah gardiner	solid rock "solid rock" by "hannah gardiner"			the church of wells	1:50:54 (Pop-up)

la iglesia de la nueva era del cristo lainec	djwahl khul				1:58:19 (Pop-up)

ora	fly "fly" by "ora"				2:01:51 (Pop-up)
dave hodges	dawn "dawn" by "dave hodges"		1974		2:05:30 (Pop-up)
Helena Blehárová	nech mne odejit		1972		2:08:20 (Pop-up)
catherine cox	musical fissions "musical fissions" by "catherine cox"	music of america			2:11:24 (Pop-up)
rin eric	montana d'anja "montana d'anja" by "rin eric"	the soundtrack to the movie of your mind	1972		2:14:13 (Pop-up)
the b.toff band	in winter "in winter" by "the b.toff band"	21 golden greats	1976		2:19:10 (Pop-up)
Tou Mer	Side B [excerpt] "Side B [excerpt]" by "Tou Mer"	s/t			2:21:05 (Pop-up)
strange tales	all hallows by the black mass (excerpt)				2:27:42 (Pop-up)

patrick cowley	school daze "school daze" by "patrick cowley"				2:32:21 (Pop-up)
the elders	Everybody Say Yeah "Everybody Say Yeah" by "the elders"	looking for an answer	1971		2:35:45 (Pop-up)
mi	quite ridiculous nonsense "quite ridiculous nonsense" by "mi"	Insane Music For Insane People Vol. 8			2:38:59 (Pop-up)
ashtray navigations	the final hit	cloud come cadaver	2013		2:42:08 (Pop-up)
the right of little rest	am i not the one	st	1976		2:53:26 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:02am Billy London: Good morning Micah! And fellow wfmooers!
	6:03am micah: good morning billy
	6:15am Cooh John: Good morning. Thanks, I need your show to counteract the entropy in my life.
	6:29am annie: good morning!!
	6:31am Billy London: Woo gravity waves!
	6:32am micah: morning annie
	6:34am annie: sometimes is difficult for me to grasp the day of the week.. i really thought it was saturday.. for almost half an hour. good thing i have the FMU schedule at ready and the handy-dandy DJ to remind me.
	6:40am pierre: that big voice sounded like Ken when on his show… Bonjour Micah
	6:41am micah: allo pierre
	6:42am Billy London: Oh wow loving that smooth mall organ demo feeling of this track.
	6:44am Billy London: Sounds like a Gimmel 100 organ
	6:57am Ken From Hyde Park: 167 hours since the last mind control. I'm ready for more!
	6:57am micah: thats what i like to hear ken from hyde park!
	7:03am annie: i think i found a very recent upload to youtube for IFTS. shall watch today. want a link?
	7:04am micah: sure
	7:07am micah: I mean, i have it, so you dont have to post for me, but for other folks maybe
	7:08am annie: www.youtube.com... "Ice From the Sun"
	7:10am annie: i rarely say how glad i am to see the end of any space of time eg: the week, but this has been one roller coaster... only very little of what i wanted to do has been done. and my list grows.. maybe there's a smooth spot coming up. this music helps
	7:19am Billy London: Damn god is God is a organ sing along tour de force!
	7:20am Slazenger: Good Morning Micah. I am able to listen from my desk this morning. Enjoy your day as much as I will be enjoying your show.
	7:22am Cliff: Good morning Micah and everybody, I've heard you do a couple fill-ins but this is my first time listening live.
	7:25am micah: welcome cliff
	7:26am annie: i haven't heard such a fascinating show in a long time, micah. i'm so glad you have are on fmu, how could we ever have known all this?
	7:27am micah: thats why im doing this annie! glad that you "get it"
	7:27am Santos L Halper: Morning Micah. Drove by that Nuwabian compound years ago, pretty wild. Not sure if it's still there...
	7:29am Cliff: Pretty trippy listening to this stuff after a bad night of sleep and being up since 5:30 this morning.
	7:30am Cliff: I guess that's how they get the cult members under control, right?
	7:33am Cliff: And this sounds kind of like a mashup of Public Enemy with some recent KRS-One lyrics, which would be awesome if it wasn't being used for the purposes of EEEEVIL
	7:38am ausmanx: as a language person, ms annie, you may care to know that i discovered this week the Russian term for "rollercoaster" actually translates literally as "the American mountains"/ meanwhile, work tonight is a doco about the underground Free Theatre in Belarus. amazing. no cults tolerated there, i fear! but plenty of mind control going on
	7:41am annie: i sometimes wonder how these people come up with such seemingly outlandish claims, it's almost as if they are channeling an ancient beliefe system from back into another millenium. i truly believe that the concoiusness of past cultures, even otherworldly, is in our cells and minds. i almost question nothing, but worry about those who use this to opress.. it's a fascinating thing. i think we are domesticated now, pets, as it were, of an alien culture.
	7:45am Cliff: annie, that sounds pretty accurate to me.
	7:47am annie: aus, my favorite author, anthony burgess, had such a broad proficiency of russian. my favorite word? "horrowshow sedim", a transliteration of course. horrowshow is understoond as "great, wonderful, fabulous" and sedim "with friends", to the best of my memory. so, hoowshow sedim means: "i'm happy to be here with my friends" and Alex used horrorshow quite a bit to describe his joy. in earlier editions of Clockwork Orange, there was quite a good glossary, and fun to incorporate that vernacular into my speech..
	7:47am annie: thanks cliff, i'm reassured that i'm not schitzoid.
	7:48am micah: yea annie theres alot of psychological harum scarum attached to this stuff indeedy doo
	7:48am BrianFromMA: Where did you find these recordings? Nice to know that the world is even stranger than I thought. Or maybe not ;)
	7:56am Wild Neil: @Annie-one time when I was really really drunk in tenth grade I did that with lines from Clockwork Orange....and I used to have the one with the glossary...
	7:56am Cliff: annie, there are some anthropologists who say the Agricultural Revolution in the stone age was the worst disaster to befall mankind, as it turned us from small bands of clever hunter-gatherers to overpopulated masses of dumb, obese grunts who are satisfied with circuses and bread with a tiny elite in control of everything. So maybe that's how the alien presence first got their claws in our brains, by teaching us how to grow grain.
	7:57am melinda: This is nice to wake up to.
	8:01am annie: cliff, in this life, all things are very possible.. and that's not so far-fetched as you'd think this is such a fascinating incarnation, huh? scary, too...
	8:02am annie: i'm a huge fan of djwahl kuhl.. huge!!
	8:03am Cliff: Very much in agreement, annie
	8:03am Wild Neil: @Cliff-I have heard theories that some plants are responsible for our growth as a society such as wheat and marijuana....and coca?
	8:04am annie: and, much to the chagrin of many of my more-sober friends, i admire the work of alice bailey..
	8:06am annie: many years ago i heard a snippet on the radio: a fellow walking down the street feeling depressed.. someone gives him a pill labelled "life", and after he takes it he becomes higher and higher, eventually becoming "high on life". i live by that principle
	8:07am annie: hehe, i think that's why i'm still single at 63
	8:07am micah: right on annie
	8:09am Wild Neil: This sounds Slavic, maybe Polish...
	8:09am annie: neil, IMHO, the diversity language is all we have left to keep us sharp-minded
	8:09am ausmanx: i fear it's a great problem that people think their lives can change and depression can be lifted by taking a pill; the metaphor is not a metaphor...
	8:11am annie: we have surely slipped from the path of joy, aus
	8:11am Cliff: Wlld Neil - Terrence McKenna wrote a book called Food of the Gods that argues something like that, he also includes hallucinogenic plants and mushrooms as a contributor to the growth of human intelligence. Some of McKenna's other ideas were pretty out there but I think this one is plausible.
	8:13am Wild Neil: I am generally pretty happy, satisfied with what I have. That is my nature.@Cliff-maybe that's where the comments came from that I heard....being a very traditional Catholic, I believe intelligence comes from our creator...still, its an interesting hypothesis...
	8:14am annie: aus, this physical body i'm in now tends to suffer from depression in the early spring of the year.. hit's like a ton of bricks, then fades.. i have my theories on that... but i can handle it BECAUSE i understand it.
	8:15am Wild Neil: @Annie-I know from personal experience that vitamin D can be a help in the winter when there is much less sunlight...could it be vitamin D deficiency?
	8:16am Cliff: Wild Neil - I've been a practicing meditator on my own for years now, and have come to believe that we are all participating within a greater mind and there is some kind of intelligence guiding all of this apparent chaos going on around us.
	8:16am JG: Supergood stuff d00d
	8:17am annie: oh no, i love winter and the dark. it's MY time of year, which is why it sucks.. the coming of spring is my most anticipated time of year.
	8:17am annie: and i sit in the sun constantly.
	8:18am Wild Neil: @Cliff-well, that's interesting. I think we would agree there is no such thing as a coincidence...
	8:19am Cliff: I've been taking a teaspoon of Carlson's Norwegian cod liver oil for a few months now, it contains Omega-3s and Vitamins D and E. I'm feeling a lot more emotionally balanced this winter than I have in the past, and I live in Upstate NY where the weather's generally pretty gloomy (though it hasn't been too bad this year).
	8:19am Cliff: Of course, quitting my stressful job back in November is probably helping my emotional state too :)
	8:20am Cliff: Wild Neil, I'd go further and say that the guiding intelligence operates in our world through the use of coincidence.
	8:22am Wild Neil: @Micha-dead air or no signal? I hear nothing...
	8:22am annie: right on, cliff
	8:22am Wild Neil: Never mind!
	8:23am Cliff: annie, I get seasonal depression every winter and summer like clockwork, and then a couple months of normalcy every spring and fall. I suspect I'm type II Bipolar. I'm hoping the cod liver oil will help with that. (I don't want to have to see a psychiatrist, have had lots of problems with them in the past)
	8:25am annie: truly, biorhythms must have an impact.. yes, summer, too for me. i get weepy and sad.. after 6 decades i can finally be prepared, it took me half my life to understand it. are you cold up there right now, my friend in watertown is subzero temps.. i come from oneonta, myself
	8:26am Cliff: I'm in Syracuse, it's 14 degrees this morning. We haven't had any below-zero days this winter, pretty unusual (not that I'm complaining!)
	8:27am Wild Neil: @Cliff-I am sorry to hear you think you are bipolar. A good licenced counselor, according to my brother, can be of much more help. The phsychiatrist is merely there to monitor meds effects, not the "big picture" over the course of weeks and months. Finding a good counselor is the key. I hear there are some that really suck....find one that subscribes o your belief system so you are "in sync" if possible....
	8:28am Wild Neil: My brother is bipolar....you see...
	8:31am Cliff: Wild Neil, I've been seeing a psychologist since just before I quit my job. I picked a psychologist specifically because they're not allowed to prescribe meds, I want to focus on talk therapy. When I was in grad school 10 years ago, I got referred to a psychiatrist for sleep issues and wasted a year of my life going through a smorgasbord of various antidepressants and other things before I quit seeing her. Never been the same since. Antidepressants can exacerbate cycling in Bipolar individuals which is another reason why I suspect that diagnosis.
	8:32am Cliff: And best wishes to your brother, I hope he's handling things ok.
	8:33am Cliff: annie, are you still living in the area?
	8:35am melinda: There are so many different possible physiological causes for depression.
	8:35am annie: my young friend, dave, suffered from manic-depression most of his life until he found hindu-ism and buddhism. he is totally off lithium now for close to 10 years.practices meditation.. i love the progress he's made. hey cliff, you have 2 nick's diners in syracuse. expect a visit this summer.. my son and i are doing a nick's diner tour across the country.... no cliff i live in asheville now, the city on a mountain of quartz..
	8:41am Cliff: My Auntie Lee lives in Swanananoa, which is near Asheville I think. Never been to Nick's Diner, must be pretty good if you're doing a country-wide tour huh? :)
	8:44am Cliff: And meditation has definitely helped to settle my mind too. But it kinda screwed me up at first, because I thought I had to find a teacher or "enlightened master" or whatever to follow.....that's BS. Fell into a kooky Buddhist crowd a few years ago and have had to unprogram myself since then from some of their ideology.
	8:45am annie: yes, swannanoa is part of asheville not far from my house..the 2 nick's diners are: nick's place on S.Salina and the other is on manlius. we're doing the tour out of nostalgia for the one in oneonta that closed... oddly enough, or not, the places i've called have had others on the same trip!
	8:46am annie: the best meditation is walking in the woods, or even doing laindry.. if ys dig my drift; it's ALL meditation, walking meditation; awareness of all..
	8:46am Cliff: Cool, I'll have to check out the one on S. Salina then, should be able to get to it pretty easily taking the bus. (And do you know the proper pronunciation of "Salina"?)
	8:47am annie: long I?
	8:49am Cliff: annie, yes, that's what I'm trying to figure out now, how to bring the peace from mediation into every aspect of my life. Nope, it's the diphthong in "buy" or "sky". "suh-LYE-nuh"
	8:49am Cliff: If you use an automated GPS, it'll probably pronounce it "suh-LEE-nuh" which drives me nuts :P
	8:51am annie: the trick, cliff, is to become detached from results or expectations and treat each thing for what it is.. things do not happen because of you.. they just happen.
	8:51am annie: and you are your own best guru.. only you know what's in your mind and how it works.
	8:51am Cliff: That's how us Syracusans can tell if someone's from out of town, if they ask for directions to "suh-LEE-nuh" street ;)
	8:52am annie: duly noted, cliff!!! :)
	8:55am Cliff: annie, I get what you're saying about being detached from expectations, but at the same time the kooky Buddhists I fell out with used that as a trick to zombify newbies. That's one of the things I'm unlearning now, I became a little too detached from life and got pretty dissociated from everything.
	8:58am Cliff: I'd say things don't happen solely because of me, or not at all because of me, but rather that I am an active participant in bringing things into fruition.
	8:58am annie: i understand... there will be a time when you know how to temper that.. it's an on-going work of art, so to speak.
	8:58am annie: yes.. exactly^
	8:58am Cliff: Enjoyed the show Micah, and the kibitzing Wild Neil and annie :)

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