In the earliest '80s, I saw a Mingus rep band with Don Pullen and Mike Richmond. (Was that Mingus Fantasy? I can't recall the name.) Pretty amazingly great. In that show, Pullen dislocated a finger in the middle of a punishing piano solo. He pulled his digit back into position and kept pounding. Must've been in intense pain, but you couldn't tell it.
12:27pm
Dean:
The "pedia" in this case was my recollection of liner notes. I heard MBB at Fez under Time Cafe about 15 years ago. The cafe was jam-packed and the subway rumbled periodically under the floor. Quite a show.
The Mingus Big Band had that looooong residency at Fez. For a while in the mid-'90s, I was in charge of organizing WFMU's ticket giveaways. Virtually every club and venue was generous and pleased to offer free tickets to WFMU for giveaways. Fez was great, too, but for the Mingus Big Band shows, I had to deal directly with Sue Mingus, and she was a beast. She demanded to know which shows/DJs were going to give away the tickets and she wanted to hear recordings of how the giveaways were announced. She wanted to be assured that the tickets would be given away on purely jazz shows. It was explained that WFMU didn't have genre-specific programming. I told her we couldn't promise that and she seemed ready to pull the plug. It was insane. I forget how it got resolved, but WFMU ended up giving away tickets to the Mingus BB shows for many years.
Dean - Impressive about the paper! That Lewis class must've been amazing.
1:18pm
Dean:
Alas, I didn't take his class. I wrote the paper for an unrelated seminar at another school. My guess is he taught the class while he was writing the AACM book.
I went to an AACM event in NYC that launched the book, w/ Lewis and others discussing the AACM. It was not terribly memorable (to me), and my main recollection is that they ran out of books and I couldn't buy one there.
After editing such text for so long, I've built up a sort of immunity. But one does come across some beauts in ac-prose now and again. And it does have a sad knack for ironing the joy out of a topic. (Reason #29384 why I opted out of grad school.)
1:29pm
Dean:
There's jargon and there's jargon. Worst offender in my memory is Homi K. Bhabha. Judith Butler can run a close second. But I'm a sucker for some of Derrida's mush, and to this day I return to Paul de Man's prose, despite his infamy. Not academic, but threateningly nonsensical, is John Ashbery's poetry, which to my ear does what language is supposed to do. E.g.,
In all my years as a pedestrian
serving juice to guests, it never occurred to me
thoughtfully to imagine how a radish feels.
Those are the first three lines of "This Economy." I can't love writing more.
I love Ashbery, Dean. Happy to wade through his flirtations with the nonsensical since they're always shot through with wonder and surprise. Wish more academics tried to transform their jargon into something that alive.
1:37pm
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Just seen Whiplash - would you agree with me the film portrays the wrong end of jazz- I mean the boring, Lincoln Center, Wynton Marsalis view that somehow just must conform to a so called golden period standard set somewhere between 1940 -1960?
1:38pm
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that jazz must conform to a so called golden period standard set somewhere between 1940 -1960?
1:39pm
Dean:
There was a Marsalis thread here last week: http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/59300
As for jargon, the worst language offenses seem to come out of business-speak these days, where layoffs = "right-sizing" etc. But my current situation in the publishing "space" might be coloring this view at the moment...
1:42pm
Dean:
I'm going to change the subject. Thanks to ELO, I can't get "Can't Get It Out of My Head" out of my head.
I haven't seen Whiplash but the criticism I've read of it describes it such that I'm put in mind of sports and military movies like "Rocky," and "An Officer and a Gentleman." The criticism describes the arts as being portrayed in a manner that seems to have nothing to do with art at all.
@JeffG When to pull out the ol' 'Handbook of Corporate Bullshit', or whatever it was called. And say, "Wait, forgive me, I have to look that up." Followed by an aggrandized, "Ohhhh!"
We talked about Whiplash on the show a few months back. It's ludicrous in how it portrays the jazz world and creative pursuits in general. The military movie comparison is apt - the teacher is straight out of Full Metal Jacket. There's a great review of it on the Talkhouse by the drummer from Oneida that's worth yr time.
I've enjoyed reading the discussion about academic jargon while studying in a library transcribing parts of books for my highly specialized doctoral thesis.
Thanks for the show, double Jeffs!
@Dean: Haha transcribing as in "Reading boring books and being too annoyed to really write down and trying to understand it, so I'm just copying things to read later". I saw it here and noticed that "transcribe" doesn't have the same sense as in Portuguese. ugh
Group co-leader Ken Hutson starts the liner notes with this:
"In the resurrection of the ritual dedicated to the perpetuation of the living force in nature and the living force in the valuable creations of humankind, each generation renews its faith in the power of music in a manner of style suitable to its time."
@UM: A guy in a high school writing class of mine copied 95% of Stephen King's "Lawnmower Man" and passed it off as his own. He got busted back to the Stone Age.
Jolly fun today, gents! Many thanks!
What Jeff J said! Thanks to @Uncle Michael, @duke, @doa, @Shaun, @Doug Schulkind; @Dean; @tr;sh; @listener james in westwood; @ngh...and all the ships at sea.
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listener james from westwood:
duke:
Jeff J:
duke:
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Doug Schulkind:
fred:
listener james from westwood:
Jeff J:
Webhamster Henry:
duke:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff J:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff J:
Dean:
duke:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff Golick:
Webhamster Henry:
Doug Schulkind:
Dean:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff J:
Jeff Golick:
Doug Schulkind:
Nope. It was at Oberlin College.
Shaun:
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Shaun:
Jeff J:
Jeff Golick:
Shaun:
Doug Schulkind:
Jeff Golick:
Shaun:
Doug Schulkind:
I never did a show with multiple versions of Fables of Faubus, but I did blog about the song with two versions: blog.wfmu.org...
Dean:
northguineahills:
Jeff Golick:
Doug Schulkind:
Yikes! Forgot all about that. I give all credit to my executive producer.
Jeff Golick:
listener james from westwood:
listener james from westwood:
doca:
Doug Schulkind:
Charles would have been the more likely Mingus to appreciate Pat Duncan's inner magic.
Jeff Golick:
Jeff J:
northguineahills:
Jeff Golick:
Shaun:
Dean:
Braggers gotta brag: George Lewis used a paper I wrote for a course he taught at Columbia on Sonic Texts of the Black Atlantic.
tr;sh:
Jeff Golick:
Whoa, @Dean! That is certainly something to hang your hat on.
Jeff J:
Dean - Impressive about the paper! That Lewis class must've been amazing.
Dean:
Doug Schulkind:
northguineahills:
Jeff J:
Jeff Golick:
listener james from westwood:
Dean:
In all my years as a pedestrian
serving juice to guests, it never occurred to me
thoughtfully to imagine how a radish feels.
Those are the first three lines of "This Economy." I can't love writing more.
Uncle Michael:
Jeff J:
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Dean:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff Golick:
Dean:
Uncle Michael:
Doug Schulkind:
I've been in that space since I got laid off in '09.
Jeff Golick:
tr;sh:
Jeff Golick:
BTW, the front line of this group Synthesis is David Murray, Olu Dara, and Arthur Blythe.
Jeff J:
Doug Schulkind:
Jeff Golick:
Doug Schulkind:
doca:
Thanks for the show, double Jeffs!
Jeff Golick:
Dean:
(Joke)
Jeff Golick:
doca:
Uncle Michael:
Doug Schulkind:
The OTHER Synthesis record is called Six By Six (Chiaroscuro, 1977)
Same lineup as on Sentiments, but it Courtney Wynter (tenor sax, clarinet, bassoon) is in the David Murray chair.
Dean:
doca:
Uncle Michael:
Doug Schulkind:
"In the resurrection of the ritual dedicated to the perpetuation of the living force in nature and the living force in the valuable creations of humankind, each generation renews its faith in the power of music in a manner of style suitable to its time."
duke:
tr;sh:
Figured out some puzzle-y work stuff I've been stuck on, too.
Thanks all.
listener james from westwood:
Jolly fun today, gents! Many thanks!
doca:
Shaun:
Jeff J:
Jeff Golick: