WFMU: Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from January 17, 2014

Listener comments!
	3:02pm LovecraftDude888: rollover has commenced. Where is the string that Theseus laid.....find me out this labyrinth pla yah ahah hahhhcccccceeee
	3:03pm paula pc: heavenly song, heavenly ? GIF
	3:04pm LovecraftDude888: this GIF geodesic thingie is making me hurl!
	♥ 3:06pm Sem Chumbo: excellent beginning, lost already.
	3:07pm 37: so far so fun!
	3:07pm LovecraftDude888: has anybody gone to the Rough Trade shop in Billyburg yet? I was thinking of going at some point.
	3:07pm Rev. Turnip Druid: That Ross thing was hilarious. The Reynolds track was the perfect palette cleanser.
	3:09pm glenn: but i don't like the children.
	♥ 3:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: The phrase "Save The Children" reminds me of the funny Virginia license plate - www.aaanything.net...
	3:09pm 37: a show without helena is not a show i suppose...
	3:09pm LovecraftDude888: like to say boogie boogie
	3:09pm LovecraftDude888: Glenn so un-PC!
	3:10pm glenn: except of course, for the children of all those here who have children, and were offended by that.
	3:12pm steve: who would they rather we eat first?
	3:16pm LovecraftDude888: reminded me of that band They Eat Their Own...they lasted about five seconds eh?
	♥ 3:18pm Caryn: Minnesota Jeff's gifs in recent weeks seem to be all about inducing motion sickness...
	3:18pm LovecraftDude888: one hit wonder fo sure
	3:18pm Mark Helsten: Damn....missed Reynols! They did a thing with Nihilist Spasm band a while back...
	3:19pm Mark Helsten: this GIF is not as queasy as the DOT one though!
	3:20pm paula pc: I have never heard of Bethnal. I am completely humbled.
	3:20pm LovecraftDude888: this reminds me of that show on Queens Public Access Mustafeo if any of you had seen that..with the talking weird head guy babbling on in front of graphics like this. So scary!
	♥ 3:21pm Caryn: For some reason, the gif reminds me of something, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is. Aagh, driving me nuts!
	3:21pm 37: love this!!
	♥ 3:21pm DCE: a little bit of old Ohio-ana
	3:24pm paula pc: Y-town is my town
	3:24pm LovecraftDude888: wow Ace...I think I met Ace's parents by accident a few years ago in town here....at some MD Lab etc. weird weird
	3:25pm Mark Helsten: I had a dream with Ace in it recently, this is reminding me. MAN he is ugly w/o makeup...
	3:25pm PKNY: Ace's first solo album = last really great KISS album.
	♥ 3:26pm Caryn: To be fair, no-one in KISS is exactly great looking without the makeup.
	♥ 3:26pm DCE: I don't normally go in for this, but it's sounding pretty good right now
	3:26pm LovecraftDude888: sorry it might've been Paul Stanley's dad...I think
	3:27pm LovecraftDude888: since Paul was the one who grew up in Queens and.or LI etc. here
	3:27pm LovecraftDude888: that was a damned good tune!
	♥ 3:28pm Cubicle Carl: Some might consider Ace's first solo album to be the first and last really great KISS album.
	3:28pm glenn: i hate kiss. always have, always will.
	♥ 3:29pm Cubicle Carl: Too bad glenn, because Kiss loves you.
	3:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: whoa! things are moving fast back up over here! hi everyone! i'll check in once i get to the long songs.
	3:30pm northguineahills: I don't think I've ever heard anything solo from Ace Frehley. It was actually better then Kiss, which isn't saying much.
	3:30pm LovecraftDude888: Ha, I was never a huge Kiss fan in school but all my pals were massive fans, saw them at various shows on LI in early to mid 70s or mid 70s mainly....given we were 11 yrs. old I didn't.
	3:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Optical Banana Sharkins.
	3:30pm LovecraftDude888: NGH heehee
	3:30pm northguineahills: ok, this is a good tune! (weird collaboration).
	3:32pm LovecraftDude888: i tried getting into Twisted Sister recently, played the whole hits parade of theirs....they were like, ok, a few ok tunes but they were really pretty lame I think. I dunno.
	3:33pm Snortley: 91.1 is back. Nice to have that pure analog sound again.
	♥ 3:34pm Caryn: The best thing Twisted Sister ever did was their appearance in front of that panel on "objectionable" music and lyrics.
	3:35pm LovecraftDude888: haha I forgot the transmitter was being repaired since thursday etc. dats cool. anyway, I was never a hair or "glam" metal guy really back in the day...most of those bands I hated or were indifferent to. TS yeah I agree. They were huge on LI of course for ages, and still are, but I'd take THEM over Billy Joel any day of the week! And God, i wish the Stray Cats were still going.
	♥ 3:35pm DCE: agreed, Caryn!
	3:40pm glenn: the revolution will not be colorized, neither.
	3:40pm Mark Helsten: Kiss were a solid rock band before 1980 or so...
	3:41pm M: You are the best Been listening to you FOREVER Warmth from San Francisco
	3:41pm Mark Helsten: The revolution will be led by Minnesota Jeff's trippy animations...
	3:41pm glenn: or vapourized, or subsidized.
	3:41pm 37: i'll take kiss over twisted sister anytime...not to mince words but dee snyder is a no talent asswipe
	3:41pm LovecraftDude888: I also kept being told Joan Jett was a LI girl years ago, but she only lived here for a while later on...or now does, or something, but not in the 70s or 80s....I dunno why they said that. She stayed with Kenny Laguna in Long Beach LI for awhile while writing songs and stuff
	♥ 3:43pm DCE: this is clever
	3:43pm glenn: hell, there's lots of no talent asswipes who've made it big. david lee roth and axl rose come to mind.
	3:45pm 37: we're on the same page glenn
	♥ 3:46pm Caryn: Hey, Huutajat! The shouting is quite something live.
	3:48pm LovecraftDude888: would rather hear some actual Krautrock...please
	♥ 3:49pm SeanG: David Lee Roth is God.
	3:49pm LovecraftDude888: David Lee Roth...urgh.. I kind of liked the early to mid Van Halen despite myself...but still not my fave band of the time in that vein, they were ok. DLR such a total obnoxious egomaniac, of course. But that's nothing new. I know people who just despised VH from Day One...."too much spandex"
	♥ 3:49pm Fuzzy: I wouldn't mind sitting down and having a couple of beers with David Lee Roth -- he's quite an interesting guy, actually.
	♥ 3:50pm SeanG: he's funny and has charisma.
	3:50pm Mark Helsten: Eddie's guitar playing made up for the defaults of DLR in the early days for me.
	3:51pm M: Alex Hill Did you mix that version With the revolution Can't find it
	3:51pm LovecraftDude888: I always admired Eddie for his guitar..for sure. But more into Dave Gilmour by far, for many reasons. Although it's a whole other style
	♥ 3:53pm Caryn: Um, Kurt, that Huutajat track is from their "Six National Anthems" EP. The '94 cd combines that and the H.Y.V.Ä. EPs together.
	3:55pm Mark Helsten: I like gilmour more as well, but Eddie is very fluid and natural sounding, which I always appreciate. ANd one of the few that plays that style that I will stop and listen to.
	3:56pm LovecraftDude888: wow reading the Polar Vortex will return next week..along with a new phenom, THE ARCTIC MATRIX which will crush the PV like a grape
	3:57pm LovecraftDude888: Mark..agreed, I dig him, and I like the early VH especially, up to 1984...after that, it got a bit dodgy I thought and God Sammy Hagar..and his 3 lock box fookin hell
	♥ 3:58pm DCE: please tell me the Polar Vortex is not coming back.
	♥ 3:58pm Caryn: But then again, the cd release was usually referred to as H.Y.V.Ä. as well, now that I think about it, with the "Six National Anthems" being more of a subtitle, so... never mind.
	♥ 3:59pm DCE: forcast is chillier next week for sure but not POLAR VORTEX CHILLY
	3:59pm LovecraftDude888: I dunno just read next week mid. might return a bit. Nevermind that...Reuben Kincaid died! Suck. I used to have a great partridge fam. shirt but it got shrunken back late 90s.ah well
	4:00pm glenn: i don't like evh, either, but i give him full credit for realizing that he was never going to get good if he didn't practise, practise, practise.
	4:01pm Carmichael: Hiya Koit! Finally made it to the big show. The excrement always seems to strike the oscillator on Friday afternoon.
	4:02pm still b/p: Pour some milk by the curb for Madden. Was his drink of choice on Laugh-In.
	4:02pm LeeCara: I got bad news for you, the shirt did not shrink.
	4:02pm LovecraftDude888: I actually managed to make some pretty conv. SRV sounds out of my amp a few months ago....briefly, but now I cant even crank the amp here in new apt. so I'm done for. arghhh the shirt expanded or I did ok, thanks.
	4:06pm glenn: for stevie ray - use heavy strings and tune down 1 full step.
	4:06pm 37: ollie halsal... now THATs a guitarist!!
	4:07pm LovecraftDude888: Aye, I did tune down and such. I was getting there. Got a TubeScreamer pedal that helped. right now the guitars are packed away and I'm in bad shape noise wise here...oof. time to go find a practice space
	4:08pm glenn: ollie was great. too bad about that heroin / early death thing. www2.gibson.com...
	♥ 4:08pm Caryn: glenn, I see you've employed a wintry profile pic. Seasonal!
	4:09pm Natalie: Yey, John Novak!
	♥ 4:09pm Sem Chumbo: @glenn: see this? www.philly.com...
	4:10pm LovecraftDude888: oof, poor Ollie, another one. Awful.
	4:10pm steve: pigbag esque name? industrial? not PigFace?
	4:11pm Mary Wing: EVERY record can be played at 33 or 45, no? ;-P
	4:11pm LovecraftDude888: what about the Brie perv?
	♥ 4:12pm DCE: haha, cheese but no crackers? what a jerk!
	4:12pm steve: ok PigFace formed in 1990, nevermind!
	4:12pm LovecraftDude888: another school shooting in Philly too ho hum
	4:12pm Dean: NON + Smegma http://www.discogs.com/NON-Smegma-Smegma-NON/release/205468
	4:13pm Dean: Pigface Records
	♥ 4:13pm Sem Chumbo: Had never heard of Olllie, thx for the link/read.
	4:14pm glenn: i came to the realization that an amplifier is an instrument too, and as such, you need to learn to "play it" the same as you'd learn to play your guitar. anyway, turn your guitar volume right down, then crank your amp full up, and roll the treble back to zero. you'll grok at the tone.
	4:14pm LovecraftDude888: I'm a lefty guitarist as well, used to be such a pain in arse, now it's not a big deal. But I hate always hav. to transcribe things. I might try righty at some point....maybe.
	4:15pm glenn: i saw the philly cheese pervert, and marvelled at his striking resemblance to mayor mccrackypants.
	4:16pm Mark Helsten: What is it with school shootings happening during Kurt's show??? weird.
	4:16pm Carmichael: Ol' Ollie was the guitarist for the Rutles on all their classic hits. Never appeared onscreen, though. And Halsey was the drummer, for that matter.
	♥ 4:16pm Caryn: Heh, the cheese guy and DCE's cracker comment reminds me of the time a bunch of celebs discussed an old celeb couple's autobiography, where they talked about how the man would - at parties - put cottage cheese on his penis, place it between two crackers and shout "Hey everyone, I'm f-ing crackers!" The one thing the commenting celebs had to say was how the cottage cheese was completely unnecessary for the joke. I appreciate how they didn't act shocked, but rather just pointed that out.
	4:17pm glenn: caryn - www.thestar.com...
	4:19pm LovecraftDude888: Caryn heehee! nice one. Oh the Rutles, right! Was just watching that again a few months ago...killing me. "far from home, and far, from talented" etc.
	♥ 4:19pm Caryn: Hah, glenn, that reminds me of this: www.dailymail.co.uk...
	4:21pm glenn: “Ollie’s music involved many diverse elements. Primarily, perhaps (since this is what first attracted attention), he could play very fast and was the first to discover how to do it. Forget Van Halen, Satriani [and others]; no one has matched his technique. Second, and more importantly, Halsall possessed a melodic sense that transcends any formal analysis. Besides Hendrix, only two others stand in the same league – Richard Thompson and Django Reinhardt.”
	4:23pm Kurt Gottschalk: wow! lots of songs and lots of talk today. thanks for being here, y'alls! pvt to mwing, yes, ha, duh, especially diana ross, you should do your show a different night every week! talk to ken about that.
	4:23pm LovecraftDude888: I also found out with guitar amps, even small ones, you can get diff. sounds from different ones sometimes without FX...like the Voxs have a nice grungy fuzz at a certain gain level, even minus a pedal. Things like that. But each one is different for sure. Gotta know what you want out of the amp and any FX, etc. and what guitar you're plugging into it. I like the Fender Mustang I so far cause it's just versatile.
	4:23pm 37: here here glenn.... with ollie, every single note counted.... those Patto albums kick butt... and he was a pretty good vibes player as well
	4:23pm 37: and of course with kevin ayers... now THATS the shit!!
	4:24pm LovecraftDude888: but it's hell trying to keep quiet for yer neighbors in an apt. good lord! hate it.
	♥ 4:25pm common: neighbors...we need a space.
	♥ 4:26pm Fuzzy: @LCD888: upside-down lefty here, also have the Mustang I -- what a great little amp! Hendrix, Gilmour, EVH, SRV -- s'all good!
	♥ 4:26pm common: nice fuzzy!
	4:27pm LovecraftDude888: Fuzzy...haha yes! It really is a good amp. I'm digging it. I'll get back to playing soon....been too busy with other life things. and plus the noise issues. I have 3 lefty guitars I have a hard time playing righty minus some rhythm stuff
	4:28pm LovecraftDude888: next up will be like, The Twix Bars perv...
	♥ 4:29pm DCE: I picked up a Vox Night Train over the summer--15w of pure fury. Perfect for recording in the basement whilst the childrens sleep
	♥ 4:29pm Caryn: I can relate to the neighbour thing. Kurt's show starts at 10 p.m. our time, so I can never really listen particularly loud. Heck, due to the time difference, a lot of the shows I listen to start near or even after midnight. It's a pain.
	4:29pm Carmichael: I have a Fender Princeton, bought it new when I was a teen. I plug several guitars into it and have always found something unique. I have never played a Gibson through it, though, just Fenders and a Gretsch. And a ton of acoustics.
	4:31pm Kurt Gottschalk: i have a princeton as well. those are sweet, sweet amplifiers.
	♥ 4:31pm DCE: I'd love to try a Gretsch...never even touched one
	♥ 4:31pm Fuzzy: @LCD888: I hear ya -- I don't spend nearly enough time with the amp, mostly play my Martin DRS1 unplugged. As far as noise control goes: the amp has a headphone jack, you know...:-)
	4:32pm glenn: don't touch one unless you can afford to buy one, that's my advice.
	4:32pm paula pc: I could listen to this for about 10 hrs straight
	4:32pm LovecraftDude888: a Princeton should be quite versatile and loud enough even at a moderate vol. or gain, even clean. good amps! I heard the Night Train Voxs are really cool, too but need to push them through a cab or whatever usually
	4:33pm LovecraftDude888: I know thank God the Fender has a headphone out and all that. I like to play "live" though often, too.
	4:33pm glenn: by which i mean the 6000 series. the cheap gretsches aren't that great.
	4:35pm LovecraftDude888: I still want a Ricky 12 string but cannot afford one. I had an ac. elec. 12 string lefty cheapo but it blew up in 2009
	♥ 4:35pm DCE: yeah, I saw some lower-priced Gretsches and thought if they're that cheap...they're probably THAT CHEAP.
	4:36pm LovecraftDude888: the bridge lower part warped out..piece o junk
	♥ 4:36pm DCE: no one can afford Richenbachers, they're ridiculous!
	4:37pm LovecraftDude888: DCE..yeah they are really expensive that's for sure. ah well. and no copies available which is irritating. someone told me at the Big Star show in 2009, that the Danelectro 12s are almost like Rickys sort of. But no lefty ones.
	4:37pm Carmichael: My Gretsch is a '69 Roc Jet, nitron drum black. I picked it up from a guy who was moving and selling off his crap. It's essentially the same one that George Harrison is holding on the cover of Cloud Nine (his is a '59, I think), but apportioned slightly differently.
	4:37pm LeeCara: Marta, it's them darn crickets! In the middle of winter now!
	4:37pm northguineahills: woohoo! Finally got my unemployment snafu fixed. Now I just need a hard copy of my last pay stub, can't remember the last time I got one of those.
	4:38pm LovecraftDude888: oh no unemployment...I haven't had to deal with them for ages thank God. Hell! Govt. hell
	4:38pm still b/p: Lefty friend of mine had an acoustic made for him (free!). So happy to have pick guard on the appropriate side o' the hole, and gets a kick from fret dots visible on the side of the neck after never seeing them in his long-time make-do world.
	4:39pm adam_nspy: Damn
	4:39pm LovecraftDude888: haha yeah that's prob. how I learned taking lessons years ago...with some restrung crap nylon string job. urghh! Nowadays you can buy good lefty guitars
	4:40pm LovecraftDude888: I once had to go to LICity unemployment office near Queens Plaza, 1996, cause my pub. job the co. closed and fired all of us! en masse. Was hell. lead us not into Queens Plaza
	4:41pm LovecraftDude888: wow this reminds me of that Morton Subotnick dude. wacky nutty synth noises in 5.1
	4:41pm glenn: the best value for an electric 12 string is the danelectro dc 59.
	4:41pm steve: LD888 - i found myself at Guitar Center last weekend and was surprised by the lefty section selection, i think it even had its own neon sign
	4:41pm LovecraftDude888: glenn..right, so i was told by some dude at the Big Star bklyn concert....he drove up from Baltimore, poor bugger
	4:42pm LovecraftDude888: Steve..right, Gcenter is coming along, I bought most of my lefties there. Or one at Sam Ash which was my Takamine ac.
	4:43pm LovecraftDude888: they even had a Taylor baby lefty which I could not believe, but the Takamine was more versatile so...
	4:44pm steve: yeah, i hadnt been to a GC in a while. even more surprising was there not a single analog synthesizer, not even the little cheapo Korg ones and the like.
	♥ 4:44pm Fuzzy: I hereby resolve to play a lot more than I do now to justify my recent Martin acquisition; she's a gently-used beauty that I found on Ebay (yipes I know but it worked out fine -- sounds and smells awesome!) (Sorry, can't resist: www.youtube.com... )
	4:44pm LovecraftDude888: I went down to GC again 3 weeks ago as I was saying on here to get the Shure 550 headphones....to avoid noise up in this piece..haha.
	4:46pm LovecraftDude888: a Martin you cannot go wrong with. I heard guys feuding over those vs. Taylors at GC a few years ago....I think the Martins are just better overall.
	4:47pm glenn: a nice smelling guitar IS a bonus. some of them reek of cigarette smoke and puke.
	♥ 4:47pm Fuzzy: A GC sales manager turned me on to the DRS1 -- I had to get one! And I need to find a lefty pickguard for it, speaking of those...
	4:47pm northguineahills: Yeah, b/tn my profile glitching online, and the customer assistants gave me wrong advice. So, I missed out on 3 weeks of unemployment pay. My old job may come back, but they have gotten the priority assessment from DeBlasio to see whether there will be funding for my project.
	4:48pm LovecraftDude888: NGH oh Lord. wankers!!! total wankery. That sucks man. thought you wrote customer assailants at first!
	♥ 4:48pm Fuzzy: It's Sapele wood -- has a lovely scent kind of like clove cigarettes. Open the case and breathe deep!
	4:49pm Carmichael: My 1st guitar cost my mom 3 books of S&H Green Stamps. It ws plastic. The 2nd one was a Sears Silvertone. My brother sat on the neck and broke it.
	4:50pm LovecraftDude888: an ex gf of mine gave me a Hondo nylon string once and it was really wretched
	4:52pm LovecraftDude888: man, was just reading up on what happened with Dave from The Dead Milkmen in 2004...I never heard the whole story...now I did. That's awful, man. I read some of these stories and I'm like....I dunno at least I'm not that bad off.
	♥ 4:53pm Fuzzy: My first guitar was a Norma acoustic that my great grandma got me for my 9th or 10th birthday back in the good old '70s...got broken somewhere along the line, don't remember when/how...
	4:53pm Carmichael: He he, I had a Hondo once back in the 70s. It was so-so. I do have a Martin and a Taylor, and honestly I prefer the Taylor. The neck is so silky smooth, which makes the action faster for my smallish hands. And it smells great, also. Koa wood ...
	4:54pm Kurt Gottschalk: i know i'm way behind but great big orange gretsch jazzbox, single cutaway. sigh
	♥ 4:54pm Caryn: @ngh: feel for you. Wrong advice from the customer assistants made me miss 3 months of pay a few years back. Honestly, what's the point of them if they don't know what they're talking about!?!
	4:55pm LovecraftDude888: Carm..hrmm haha Hondo..oh no!! I'd rather have an Ishiro Honda. Anyway, yeah Taylors are surely fine guitars, too. I'll take any of 'em.
	4:56pm glenn: if you ever find an old traynor at a good price, scoop it up. fantastic amps.
	4:57pm LovecraftDude888: heard of Traynors, right. Will try.
	4:57pm Carmichael: Wow Kurt, those pumpkin orange guitars were so funky. They've gone beyond dated and back to retro cool. They called them "Pumpkin Jets".
	♥ 4:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: RIP Ruth Robinson Duccini, age 95, the last female Munchkin. Last one standing is Jerry Maren, age 93.
	♥ 4:58pm Fuzzy: @glenn: I've heard that too...old Sovtek MIG50's are hot little amps too, if you can find one.
	4:59pm Kurt Gottschalk: wow. ken. that is some deeply touching news. thanks.
	4:59pm LovecraftDude888: nevermind Traynors too pricey for me. But I hear they're tops. Also Soldanos!! Amazing amps. but uber expensive
	4:59pm Mary Wing: $1500 will get you a lefty '92 Gibson Les Paul on Craigslist, damn. newyork.craigslist.org...
	4:59pm glenn: silvertone? i used to own one of these. i wish i still had it. www.vintagesilvertones.com...
	5:01pm LovecraftDude888: Mary...yeah some of the better lefties are at least that, and up. Oh, the guy from Martha and der Muffins wrote me last month..told me about lefty shop in Florida....prices were out of sight
	5:01pm glenn: mary wing! are you an axe wielder?
	5:02pm Carmichael: Yeah Glenn, Silvertones came off the same factory line as Kay, Harmony, and I believe Danelectro. Their body was just glued wood shavings, like plywood.
	5:02pm Mary Wing: Oh no, Glenn. I can play the radio, though!
	5:03pm glenn: they were totally made of plywood, but those pups are fantastic.
	♥ 5:04pm Fuzzy: My first electric: a '65 Fender Mustang with non-original psychedelic Sharpie-on-White finish that I bought in San Diego for $150 in '86. Pawned it for ridiculously-low amount in '93...still kicking myself today. Sole picture that I have of it resides in Martin guitar case.
	5:04pm Carmichael: Yes, people spend good money these days to get their guitars to sound like that.
	5:04pm glenn: they've been reissued as kays, and apparently they're pretty good.
	5:05pm Philthy woman: Kurt, thanks for the Fela at sunset. Nice.
	5:08pm LovecraftDude888: I plugged into a Fender Blues Deville a few years ago at GCenter and the manager almost brained me, heehee! Wow was that louddddd but someone had left master up too high
	5:09pm Listening Out There: KG, there's also supposed to be a new documentary out on Mingus...
	♥ 5:09pm Fuzzy: @Carmichael: Harmony Sovereign made out of plywood too? I saw a nice unstrung one in a guitar shop window in Juneau back in '02-'03, with the pickup built into the bottom of the neck...shop was never open though, so I never got to check it out further.
	5:09pm LovecraftDude888: then there's the EClapton Fender ltd. amp.ha! a mere Grand.
	5:13pm LovecraftDude888: hrmm you can get a Vox Night Train ministack for $300, that's not bad at all. Keen! I think I'll stick with the headphone one.
	♥ 5:14pm Mike East: damn I missed out on some amp talk. I've had people ask me for those Clapton Fenders (for rentals) and I tell them to bring their own.
	5:16pm Listening Out There: ...or...I could be wrong. Am trying to find the article I read recently on Mingus. Am only finding info about the 1968 documentary. Sigh...
	5:17pm LovecraftDude888: I dunno how good those Clapton specials are, but willing to bet they ain't shabby! hehe
	5:17pm Carmichael: @Fuzzy: Only the solid body electrics were made out of pressed fiberboard. The acoustics actually had real wood from real trees.
	5:18pm LovecraftDude888: one thing about Sears now....you can count on it for A. pink floyd shirts and B. Carhartt jackets. naught else.
	♥ 5:19pm Fuzzy: That's what I thought -- mahogany methinks. Wish that shop had been open -- I really dug that guitar!
	♥ 5:20pm Fuzzy: Spruce top, mahogany back/sides
	5:27pm LovecraftDude888: I was thinking of inventing a 24-string and really driving myself insane hehe had a vision of that a few years ago...anyway, might order up a Vox Night Train headphone thingie. I might go for that in a bigg way
	5:28pm LovecraftDude888: wow this is like hardcore acid jazz. Ornette meets Xenakis meets Ministry on even more acid
	5:33pm Philthy woman: well thank you for the encouragment- we are going to make a movie!
	5:34pm still b/p: Someone emailed me that my phone must've been off the hook for a long time earlier this afternoon. I recall an extended electronic noise that might've been the phone company's attention-getter, but I assumed at the time it was something on this show at low volume.
	5:36pm LovecraftDude888: the NSA is resorting to using Xenakis at max. volume to drive terrorist suspects bonkers! works well
	5:38pm northguineahills: I forgot to type earlier, "Otomo!"
	5:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: Otomo!
	5:41pm LovecraftDude888: hit me Atari. with your rhythm stick hit me hit me oh it's cranky time.....
	5:45pm Carmichael: b/p, I often think the same thing about random sounds. I'll hit my mute to see if it's coming from FMU or just in the air. Particularly when listening to Bryce.
	5:46pm LovecraftDude888: it's like, Scott, we're not gonna waterboard you...instead you shall sit in this soundproof room for 10 months and be subjected to Katy Perry CDs.....you WILL break
	5:49pm northguineahills: Same here Carmichael, or during Kenzo's show.
	5:51pm Kurt Gottschalk: kenzo's belated last ever show...
	5:52pm Carmichael: Until next week ....
	5:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: i guess we can hope. he'll be back at some point, i'm sure.
	5:53pm LovecraftDude888: same Bat time...it's been fun gang....great show Kurt! really mind expanding for sure.
	5:54pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks for joining me!
	5:54pm northguineahills: Ok, gotta jump. Thanks Kurt and Minotaurites!
	5:57pm Listening Out There: good program. thx!
	♥ 5:58pm Caryn: Until next week, everyone!

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January 17, 2014: Save the Children
~~Animation by Minnesota Jeff

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	Approx. start time
Diana Ross	Save the Children "Save the Children" by "Diana Ross"		Motown	1973	45
Reynols	Intro-e-retino "Intro-e-retino" by "Reynols"	Loh Fenser Patagonia	Semi-Roar	1999	CD-R		0:03:14 (Pop-up)
Helena Vondráčková	A Kapky Kapou	Ostrov Heleny Vondráčková	Bonton	1998	CD		0:06:20 (Pop-up)
Karel Duba & His Guitar Men	The Coach	Surfbeat Behind the Iron Curtain	DDR	1997	CD		0:09:22 (Pop-up)
Kalesijski Svuci	Sedam Puta Lola Se Ozenio	Bosnian Breakdown: The Unpronounceable Beat of Sarajevo	Ace Records	1992	CD		0:12:11 (Pop-up)
Bethnal	Baba O'Riley "Baba O'Riley" by "Bethnal"	Don't Do It	Phonogram	1978	12"		0:18:20 (Pop-up)
Blue Ash	Smash My Guitar "Smash My Guitar" by "Blue Ash"	No More No Less	Mercury		CD-R	Originally released in 1973	0:19:43 (Pop-up)
Ace Frehley	Rip It Out "Rip It Out" by "Ace Frehley"	Ace Frehley	Mercury	1998	CD	Originally released in 1978	0:22:54 (Pop-up)
Optical*8+Melt Banana+Elliott Sharp+Zeena Parkins	Whirlpool	Chipfarm	God Mountain	1995	CD		0:26:28 (Pop-up)
Elliott Sharp with Jack Womack	Epilog	Binibon	Henceforth Records	2010	CD		1:38:26 (Pop-up)
Ollie Halsall and John Halsey	Bum Love	Miniatures	Blueprint	1994	CD		0:31:48 (Pop-up)
Testbild	Ain-Sefra "Ain-Sefra" by "Testbild"	Une Teinte Intense	Friendly Noise	2007	CD		0:32:51 (Pop-up)
The Residents	Musical Chairs in 3/4	Mush-Room	MVD Audio	2013	CD		0:35:37 (Pop-up)
The Who Boys	Revolution Uber Alles		self-released	2008	MP3		0:37:58 (Pop-up)
Alex Hills	Alles "Alles" by "Alex Hills"	The Music of Making Strange	Carrier	2013	CD		0:40:28 (Pop-up)
Mieskuoro Huutajat	Deutschland, Duetschland uber alles	H.Y.V.Ä.	Bad Vugum	1994	CD		0:44:29 (Pop-up)
The King's Singers	Mysteries of the Macabre	Ligeti: Vocal Works - Madrigals, Mysteries, Aventures & Songs	Sony Classical	1996	CD	Composed by György Ligeti (1974-77)	0:46:42 (Pop-up)
180 G's	Oven Noises "Oven Noises" by "180 G's"	180 G's to the Future: The Music of Negativland as Performed by the 180 Gs	Seeland	2007	CD		0:54:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Michel Waisvisz and Koen Kaptijn	Cracklebox 52/200					Thanks, Linda!	1:15:23 (Pop-up)
Paul Reller	Corngun "Corngun" by "Paul Reller"	SPANK ME! it's contemporary classical	Bonkfest	1998	CD		1:15:09 (Pop-up)
Matthew Welch	Blues for Seraut "Blues for Seraut" by "Matthew Welch"	Luminosity	Porter Records	2009	CD	Composed in 1999	1:25:44 (Pop-up)
dragonflies	Particle Swarm Intelligence	Broken Hearted Dragonflies: Insect Electronica From Southeast Asia	Sublime Frequencies	2004	CD	Recorded by Alan Bishop	1:30:04 (Pop-up)
unknown	track 9 "track 9" by "unknown"	Bougouni Yaalali	Yaala Yaala	2006	CD	Recording made in 1999-2000 in Bougouni and Bamako, Mali	1:40:55 (Pop-up)
Fela Anikulapo Kuti	V.I.P. "V.I.P." by "Fela Anikulapo Kuti"	V.I.P./Authority Stealing	Polygram	2000	CD	Originally released in 1979	1:46:07 (Pop-up)

Charles Mingus	Original Faubus Fables	Mingus Presents Mingus	Candid	1989	CD	Recorded November 19, 1960	2:08:24 (Pop-up)
Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra	Hat and Beard	Live Vol. 1 series circuit	Doubtmusic	2007	CD	Composed by Eric Dolphy	2:17:37 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill & Make a Move	Where's Your Cup?	Where's Your Cup?	Columbia	1997	CD		2:29:38 (Pop-up)
Trophies	What Happens to Break This Cup	You Wait to Publish	Monotype	2013	CD		2:40:48 (Pop-up)
Daniel Wohl with Transit	Plus ou moins	Corps Exquis	New Amsterdam	2013	CD	Composed by Daniel Wohl	2:47:42 (Pop-up)
Petula Clark	The Show is Over "The Show is Over" by "Petula Clark"	Beautiful Sounds: The Petula Clark Songbook	Castle	2000	CD		2:57:24 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:02pm LovecraftDude888: rollover has commenced. Where is the string that Theseus laid.....find me out this labyrinth pla yah ahah hahhhcccccceeee
	3:03pm paula pc: heavenly song, heavenly ? GIF
	3:04pm LovecraftDude888: this GIF geodesic thingie is making me hurl!
	♥ 3:06pm Sem Chumbo: excellent beginning, lost already.
	3:07pm 37: so far so fun!
	3:07pm LovecraftDude888: has anybody gone to the Rough Trade shop in Billyburg yet? I was thinking of going at some point.
	3:07pm Rev. Turnip Druid: That Ross thing was hilarious. The Reynolds track was the perfect palette cleanser.
	3:09pm glenn: but i don't like the children.
	♥ 3:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: The phrase "Save The Children" reminds me of the funny Virginia license plate - www.aaanything.net...
	3:09pm 37: a show without helena is not a show i suppose...
	3:09pm LovecraftDude888: like to say boogie boogie
	3:09pm LovecraftDude888: Glenn so un-PC!
	3:10pm glenn: except of course, for the children of all those here who have children, and were offended by that.
	3:12pm steve: who would they rather we eat first?
	3:16pm LovecraftDude888: reminded me of that band They Eat Their Own...they lasted about five seconds eh?
	♥ 3:18pm Caryn: Minnesota Jeff's gifs in recent weeks seem to be all about inducing motion sickness...
	3:18pm LovecraftDude888: one hit wonder fo sure
	3:18pm Mark Helsten: Damn....missed Reynols! They did a thing with Nihilist Spasm band a while back...
	3:19pm Mark Helsten: this GIF is not as queasy as the DOT one though!
	3:20pm paula pc: I have never heard of Bethnal. I am completely humbled.
	3:20pm LovecraftDude888: this reminds me of that show on Queens Public Access Mustafeo if any of you had seen that..with the talking weird head guy babbling on in front of graphics like this. So scary!
	♥ 3:21pm Caryn: For some reason, the gif reminds me of something, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is. Aagh, driving me nuts!
	3:21pm 37: love this!!
	♥ 3:21pm DCE: a little bit of old Ohio-ana
	3:24pm paula pc: Y-town is my town
	3:24pm LovecraftDude888: wow Ace...I think I met Ace's parents by accident a few years ago in town here....at some MD Lab etc. weird weird
	3:25pm Mark Helsten: I had a dream with Ace in it recently, this is reminding me. MAN he is ugly w/o makeup...
	3:25pm PKNY: Ace's first solo album = last really great KISS album.
	♥ 3:26pm Caryn: To be fair, no-one in KISS is exactly great looking without the makeup.
	♥ 3:26pm DCE: I don't normally go in for this, but it's sounding pretty good right now
	3:26pm LovecraftDude888: sorry it might've been Paul Stanley's dad...I think
	3:27pm LovecraftDude888: since Paul was the one who grew up in Queens and.or LI etc. here
	3:27pm LovecraftDude888: that was a damned good tune!
	♥ 3:28pm Cubicle Carl: Some might consider Ace's first solo album to be the first and last really great KISS album.
	3:28pm glenn: i hate kiss. always have, always will.
	♥ 3:29pm Cubicle Carl: Too bad glenn, because Kiss loves you.
	3:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: whoa! things are moving fast back up over here! hi everyone! i'll check in once i get to the long songs.
	3:30pm northguineahills: I don't think I've ever heard anything solo from Ace Frehley. It was actually better then Kiss, which isn't saying much.
	3:30pm LovecraftDude888: Ha, I was never a huge Kiss fan in school but all my pals were massive fans, saw them at various shows on LI in early to mid 70s or mid 70s mainly....given we were 11 yrs. old I didn't.
	3:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Optical Banana Sharkins.
	3:30pm LovecraftDude888: NGH heehee
	3:30pm northguineahills: ok, this is a good tune! (weird collaboration).
	3:32pm LovecraftDude888: i tried getting into Twisted Sister recently, played the whole hits parade of theirs....they were like, ok, a few ok tunes but they were really pretty lame I think. I dunno.
	3:33pm Snortley: 91.1 is back. Nice to have that pure analog sound again.
	♥ 3:34pm Caryn: The best thing Twisted Sister ever did was their appearance in front of that panel on "objectionable" music and lyrics.
	3:35pm LovecraftDude888: haha I forgot the transmitter was being repaired since thursday etc. dats cool. anyway, I was never a hair or "glam" metal guy really back in the day...most of those bands I hated or were indifferent to. TS yeah I agree. They were huge on LI of course for ages, and still are, but I'd take THEM over Billy Joel any day of the week! And God, i wish the Stray Cats were still going.
	♥ 3:35pm DCE: agreed, Caryn!
	3:40pm glenn: the revolution will not be colorized, neither.
	3:40pm Mark Helsten: Kiss were a solid rock band before 1980 or so...
	3:41pm M: You are the best Been listening to you FOREVER Warmth from San Francisco
	3:41pm Mark Helsten: The revolution will be led by Minnesota Jeff's trippy animations...
	3:41pm glenn: or vapourized, or subsidized.
	3:41pm 37: i'll take kiss over twisted sister anytime...not to mince words but dee snyder is a no talent asswipe
	3:41pm LovecraftDude888: I also kept being told Joan Jett was a LI girl years ago, but she only lived here for a while later on...or now does, or something, but not in the 70s or 80s....I dunno why they said that. She stayed with Kenny Laguna in Long Beach LI for awhile while writing songs and stuff
	♥ 3:43pm DCE: this is clever
	3:43pm glenn: hell, there's lots of no talent asswipes who've made it big. david lee roth and axl rose come to mind.
	3:45pm 37: we're on the same page glenn
	♥ 3:46pm Caryn: Hey, Huutajat! The shouting is quite something live.
	3:48pm LovecraftDude888: would rather hear some actual Krautrock...please
	♥ 3:49pm SeanG: David Lee Roth is God.
	3:49pm LovecraftDude888: David Lee Roth...urgh.. I kind of liked the early to mid Van Halen despite myself...but still not my fave band of the time in that vein, they were ok. DLR such a total obnoxious egomaniac, of course. But that's nothing new. I know people who just despised VH from Day One...."too much spandex"
	♥ 3:49pm Fuzzy: I wouldn't mind sitting down and having a couple of beers with David Lee Roth -- he's quite an interesting guy, actually.
	♥ 3:50pm SeanG: he's funny and has charisma.
	3:50pm Mark Helsten: Eddie's guitar playing made up for the defaults of DLR in the early days for me.
	3:51pm M: Alex Hill Did you mix that version With the revolution Can't find it
	3:51pm LovecraftDude888: I always admired Eddie for his guitar..for sure. But more into Dave Gilmour by far, for many reasons. Although it's a whole other style
	♥ 3:53pm Caryn: Um, Kurt, that Huutajat track is from their "Six National Anthems" EP. The '94 cd combines that and the H.Y.V.Ä. EPs together.
	3:55pm Mark Helsten: I like gilmour more as well, but Eddie is very fluid and natural sounding, which I always appreciate. ANd one of the few that plays that style that I will stop and listen to.
	3:56pm LovecraftDude888: wow reading the Polar Vortex will return next week..along with a new phenom, THE ARCTIC MATRIX which will crush the PV like a grape
	3:57pm LovecraftDude888: Mark..agreed, I dig him, and I like the early VH especially, up to 1984...after that, it got a bit dodgy I thought and God Sammy Hagar..and his 3 lock box fookin hell
	♥ 3:58pm DCE: please tell me the Polar Vortex is not coming back.
	♥ 3:58pm Caryn: But then again, the cd release was usually referred to as H.Y.V.Ä. as well, now that I think about it, with the "Six National Anthems" being more of a subtitle, so... never mind.
	♥ 3:59pm DCE: forcast is chillier next week for sure but not POLAR VORTEX CHILLY
	3:59pm LovecraftDude888: I dunno just read next week mid. might return a bit. Nevermind that...Reuben Kincaid died! Suck. I used to have a great partridge fam. shirt but it got shrunken back late 90s.ah well
	4:00pm glenn: i don't like evh, either, but i give him full credit for realizing that he was never going to get good if he didn't practise, practise, practise.
	4:01pm Carmichael: Hiya Koit! Finally made it to the big show. The excrement always seems to strike the oscillator on Friday afternoon.
	4:02pm still b/p: Pour some milk by the curb for Madden. Was his drink of choice on Laugh-In.
	4:02pm LeeCara: I got bad news for you, the shirt did not shrink.
	4:02pm LovecraftDude888: I actually managed to make some pretty conv. SRV sounds out of my amp a few months ago....briefly, but now I cant even crank the amp here in new apt. so I'm done for. arghhh the shirt expanded or I did ok, thanks.
	4:06pm glenn: for stevie ray - use heavy strings and tune down 1 full step.
	4:06pm 37: ollie halsal... now THATs a guitarist!!
	4:07pm LovecraftDude888: Aye, I did tune down and such. I was getting there. Got a TubeScreamer pedal that helped. right now the guitars are packed away and I'm in bad shape noise wise here...oof. time to go find a practice space
	4:08pm glenn: ollie was great. too bad about that heroin / early death thing. www2.gibson.com...
	♥ 4:08pm Caryn: glenn, I see you've employed a wintry profile pic. Seasonal!
	4:09pm Natalie: Yey, John Novak!
	♥ 4:09pm Sem Chumbo: @glenn: see this? www.philly.com...
	4:10pm LovecraftDude888: oof, poor Ollie, another one. Awful.
	4:10pm steve: pigbag esque name? industrial? not PigFace?
	4:11pm Mary Wing: EVERY record can be played at 33 or 45, no? ;-P
	4:11pm LovecraftDude888: what about the Brie perv?
	♥ 4:12pm DCE: haha, cheese but no crackers? what a jerk!
	4:12pm steve: ok PigFace formed in 1990, nevermind!
	4:12pm LovecraftDude888: another school shooting in Philly too ho hum
	4:12pm Dean: NON + Smegma http://www.discogs.com/NON-Smegma-Smegma-NON/release/205468
	4:13pm Dean: Pigface Records
	♥ 4:13pm Sem Chumbo: Had never heard of Olllie, thx for the link/read.
	4:14pm glenn: i came to the realization that an amplifier is an instrument too, and as such, you need to learn to "play it" the same as you'd learn to play your guitar. anyway, turn your guitar volume right down, then crank your amp full up, and roll the treble back to zero. you'll grok at the tone.
	4:14pm LovecraftDude888: I'm a lefty guitarist as well, used to be such a pain in arse, now it's not a big deal. But I hate always hav. to transcribe things. I might try righty at some point....maybe.
	4:15pm glenn: i saw the philly cheese pervert, and marvelled at his striking resemblance to mayor mccrackypants.
	4:16pm Mark Helsten: What is it with school shootings happening during Kurt's show??? weird.
	4:16pm Carmichael: Ol' Ollie was the guitarist for the Rutles on all their classic hits. Never appeared onscreen, though. And Halsey was the drummer, for that matter.
	♥ 4:16pm Caryn: Heh, the cheese guy and DCE's cracker comment reminds me of the time a bunch of celebs discussed an old celeb couple's autobiography, where they talked about how the man would - at parties - put cottage cheese on his penis, place it between two crackers and shout "Hey everyone, I'm f-ing crackers!" The one thing the commenting celebs had to say was how the cottage cheese was completely unnecessary for the joke. I appreciate how they didn't act shocked, but rather just pointed that out.
	4:17pm glenn: caryn - www.thestar.com...
	4:19pm LovecraftDude888: Caryn heehee! nice one. Oh the Rutles, right! Was just watching that again a few months ago...killing me. "far from home, and far, from talented" etc.
	♥ 4:19pm Caryn: Hah, glenn, that reminds me of this: www.dailymail.co.uk...
	4:21pm glenn: “Ollie’s music involved many diverse elements. Primarily, perhaps (since this is what first attracted attention), he could play very fast and was the first to discover how to do it. Forget Van Halen, Satriani [and others]; no one has matched his technique. Second, and more importantly, Halsall possessed a melodic sense that transcends any formal analysis. Besides Hendrix, only two others stand in the same league – Richard Thompson and Django Reinhardt.”
	4:23pm Kurt Gottschalk: wow! lots of songs and lots of talk today. thanks for being here, y'alls! pvt to mwing, yes, ha, duh, especially diana ross, you should do your show a different night every week! talk to ken about that.
	4:23pm LovecraftDude888: I also found out with guitar amps, even small ones, you can get diff. sounds from different ones sometimes without FX...like the Voxs have a nice grungy fuzz at a certain gain level, even minus a pedal. Things like that. But each one is different for sure. Gotta know what you want out of the amp and any FX, etc. and what guitar you're plugging into it. I like the Fender Mustang I so far cause it's just versatile.
	4:23pm 37: here here glenn.... with ollie, every single note counted.... those Patto albums kick butt... and he was a pretty good vibes player as well
	4:23pm 37: and of course with kevin ayers... now THATS the shit!!
	4:24pm LovecraftDude888: but it's hell trying to keep quiet for yer neighbors in an apt. good lord! hate it.
	♥ 4:25pm common: neighbors...we need a space.
	♥ 4:26pm Fuzzy: @LCD888: upside-down lefty here, also have the Mustang I -- what a great little amp! Hendrix, Gilmour, EVH, SRV -- s'all good!
	♥ 4:26pm common: nice fuzzy!
	4:27pm LovecraftDude888: Fuzzy...haha yes! It really is a good amp. I'm digging it. I'll get back to playing soon....been too busy with other life things. and plus the noise issues. I have 3 lefty guitars I have a hard time playing righty minus some rhythm stuff
	4:28pm LovecraftDude888: next up will be like, The Twix Bars perv...
	♥ 4:29pm DCE: I picked up a Vox Night Train over the summer--15w of pure fury. Perfect for recording in the basement whilst the childrens sleep
	♥ 4:29pm Caryn: I can relate to the neighbour thing. Kurt's show starts at 10 p.m. our time, so I can never really listen particularly loud. Heck, due to the time difference, a lot of the shows I listen to start near or even after midnight. It's a pain.
	4:29pm Carmichael: I have a Fender Princeton, bought it new when I was a teen. I plug several guitars into it and have always found something unique. I have never played a Gibson through it, though, just Fenders and a Gretsch. And a ton of acoustics.
	4:31pm Kurt Gottschalk: i have a princeton as well. those are sweet, sweet amplifiers.
	♥ 4:31pm DCE: I'd love to try a Gretsch...never even touched one
	♥ 4:31pm Fuzzy: @LCD888: I hear ya -- I don't spend nearly enough time with the amp, mostly play my Martin DRS1 unplugged. As far as noise control goes: the amp has a headphone jack, you know...:-)
	4:32pm glenn: don't touch one unless you can afford to buy one, that's my advice.
	4:32pm paula pc: I could listen to this for about 10 hrs straight
	4:32pm LovecraftDude888: a Princeton should be quite versatile and loud enough even at a moderate vol. or gain, even clean. good amps! I heard the Night Train Voxs are really cool, too but need to push them through a cab or whatever usually
	4:33pm LovecraftDude888: I know thank God the Fender has a headphone out and all that. I like to play "live" though often, too.
	4:33pm glenn: by which i mean the 6000 series. the cheap gretsches aren't that great.
	4:35pm LovecraftDude888: I still want a Ricky 12 string but cannot afford one. I had an ac. elec. 12 string lefty cheapo but it blew up in 2009
	♥ 4:35pm DCE: yeah, I saw some lower-priced Gretsches and thought if they're that cheap...they're probably THAT CHEAP.
	4:36pm LovecraftDude888: the bridge lower part warped out..piece o junk
	♥ 4:36pm DCE: no one can afford Richenbachers, they're ridiculous!
	4:37pm LovecraftDude888: DCE..yeah they are really expensive that's for sure. ah well. and no copies available which is irritating. someone told me at the Big Star show in 2009, that the Danelectro 12s are almost like Rickys sort of. But no lefty ones.
	4:37pm Carmichael: My Gretsch is a '69 Roc Jet, nitron drum black. I picked it up from a guy who was moving and selling off his crap. It's essentially the same one that George Harrison is holding on the cover of Cloud Nine (his is a '59, I think), but apportioned slightly differently.
	4:37pm LeeCara: Marta, it's them darn crickets! In the middle of winter now!
	4:37pm northguineahills: woohoo! Finally got my unemployment snafu fixed. Now I just need a hard copy of my last pay stub, can't remember the last time I got one of those.
	4:38pm LovecraftDude888: oh no unemployment...I haven't had to deal with them for ages thank God. Hell! Govt. hell
	4:38pm still b/p: Lefty friend of mine had an acoustic made for him (free!). So happy to have pick guard on the appropriate side o' the hole, and gets a kick from fret dots visible on the side of the neck after never seeing them in his long-time make-do world.
	4:39pm adam_nspy: Damn
	4:39pm LovecraftDude888: haha yeah that's prob. how I learned taking lessons years ago...with some restrung crap nylon string job. urghh! Nowadays you can buy good lefty guitars
	4:40pm LovecraftDude888: I once had to go to LICity unemployment office near Queens Plaza, 1996, cause my pub. job the co. closed and fired all of us! en masse. Was hell. lead us not into Queens Plaza
	4:41pm LovecraftDude888: wow this reminds me of that Morton Subotnick dude. wacky nutty synth noises in 5.1
	4:41pm glenn: the best value for an electric 12 string is the danelectro dc 59.
	4:41pm steve: LD888 - i found myself at Guitar Center last weekend and was surprised by the lefty section selection, i think it even had its own neon sign
	4:41pm LovecraftDude888: glenn..right, so i was told by some dude at the Big Star bklyn concert....he drove up from Baltimore, poor bugger
	4:42pm LovecraftDude888: Steve..right, Gcenter is coming along, I bought most of my lefties there. Or one at Sam Ash which was my Takamine ac.
	4:43pm LovecraftDude888: they even had a Taylor baby lefty which I could not believe, but the Takamine was more versatile so...
	4:44pm steve: yeah, i hadnt been to a GC in a while. even more surprising was there not a single analog synthesizer, not even the little cheapo Korg ones and the like.
	♥ 4:44pm Fuzzy: I hereby resolve to play a lot more than I do now to justify my recent Martin acquisition; she's a gently-used beauty that I found on Ebay (yipes I know but it worked out fine -- sounds and smells awesome!) (Sorry, can't resist: www.youtube.com... )
	4:44pm LovecraftDude888: I went down to GC again 3 weeks ago as I was saying on here to get the Shure 550 headphones....to avoid noise up in this piece..haha.
	4:46pm LovecraftDude888: a Martin you cannot go wrong with. I heard guys feuding over those vs. Taylors at GC a few years ago....I think the Martins are just better overall.
	4:47pm glenn: a nice smelling guitar IS a bonus. some of them reek of cigarette smoke and puke.
	♥ 4:47pm Fuzzy: A GC sales manager turned me on to the DRS1 -- I had to get one! And I need to find a lefty pickguard for it, speaking of those...
	4:47pm northguineahills: Yeah, b/tn my profile glitching online, and the customer assistants gave me wrong advice. So, I missed out on 3 weeks of unemployment pay. My old job may come back, but they have gotten the priority assessment from DeBlasio to see whether there will be funding for my project.
	4:48pm LovecraftDude888: NGH oh Lord. wankers!!! total wankery. That sucks man. thought you wrote customer assailants at first!
	♥ 4:48pm Fuzzy: It's Sapele wood -- has a lovely scent kind of like clove cigarettes. Open the case and breathe deep!
	4:49pm Carmichael: My 1st guitar cost my mom 3 books of S&H Green Stamps. It ws plastic. The 2nd one was a Sears Silvertone. My brother sat on the neck and broke it.
	4:50pm LovecraftDude888: an ex gf of mine gave me a Hondo nylon string once and it was really wretched
	4:52pm LovecraftDude888: man, was just reading up on what happened with Dave from The Dead Milkmen in 2004...I never heard the whole story...now I did. That's awful, man. I read some of these stories and I'm like....I dunno at least I'm not that bad off.
	♥ 4:53pm Fuzzy: My first guitar was a Norma acoustic that my great grandma got me for my 9th or 10th birthday back in the good old '70s...got broken somewhere along the line, don't remember when/how...
	4:53pm Carmichael: He he, I had a Hondo once back in the 70s. It was so-so. I do have a Martin and a Taylor, and honestly I prefer the Taylor. The neck is so silky smooth, which makes the action faster for my smallish hands. And it smells great, also. Koa wood ...
	4:54pm Kurt Gottschalk: i know i'm way behind but great big orange gretsch jazzbox, single cutaway. sigh
	♥ 4:54pm Caryn: @ngh: feel for you. Wrong advice from the customer assistants made me miss 3 months of pay a few years back. Honestly, what's the point of them if they don't know what they're talking about!?!
	4:55pm LovecraftDude888: Carm..hrmm haha Hondo..oh no!! I'd rather have an Ishiro Honda. Anyway, yeah Taylors are surely fine guitars, too. I'll take any of 'em.
	4:56pm glenn: if you ever find an old traynor at a good price, scoop it up. fantastic amps.
	4:57pm LovecraftDude888: heard of Traynors, right. Will try.
	4:57pm Carmichael: Wow Kurt, those pumpkin orange guitars were so funky. They've gone beyond dated and back to retro cool. They called them "Pumpkin Jets".
	♥ 4:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: RIP Ruth Robinson Duccini, age 95, the last female Munchkin. Last one standing is Jerry Maren, age 93.
	♥ 4:58pm Fuzzy: @glenn: I've heard that too...old Sovtek MIG50's are hot little amps too, if you can find one.
	4:59pm Kurt Gottschalk: wow. ken. that is some deeply touching news. thanks.
	4:59pm LovecraftDude888: nevermind Traynors too pricey for me. But I hear they're tops. Also Soldanos!! Amazing amps. but uber expensive
	4:59pm Mary Wing: $1500 will get you a lefty '92 Gibson Les Paul on Craigslist, damn. newyork.craigslist.org...
	4:59pm glenn: silvertone? i used to own one of these. i wish i still had it. www.vintagesilvertones.com...
	5:01pm LovecraftDude888: Mary...yeah some of the better lefties are at least that, and up. Oh, the guy from Martha and der Muffins wrote me last month..told me about lefty shop in Florida....prices were out of sight
	5:01pm glenn: mary wing! are you an axe wielder?
	5:02pm Carmichael: Yeah Glenn, Silvertones came off the same factory line as Kay, Harmony, and I believe Danelectro. Their body was just glued wood shavings, like plywood.
	5:02pm Mary Wing: Oh no, Glenn. I can play the radio, though!
	5:03pm glenn: they were totally made of plywood, but those pups are fantastic.
	♥ 5:04pm Fuzzy: My first electric: a '65 Fender Mustang with non-original psychedelic Sharpie-on-White finish that I bought in San Diego for $150 in '86. Pawned it for ridiculously-low amount in '93...still kicking myself today. Sole picture that I have of it resides in Martin guitar case.
	5:04pm Carmichael: Yes, people spend good money these days to get their guitars to sound like that.
	5:04pm glenn: they've been reissued as kays, and apparently they're pretty good.
	5:05pm Philthy woman: Kurt, thanks for the Fela at sunset. Nice.
	5:08pm LovecraftDude888: I plugged into a Fender Blues Deville a few years ago at GCenter and the manager almost brained me, heehee! Wow was that louddddd but someone had left master up too high
	5:09pm Listening Out There: KG, there's also supposed to be a new documentary out on Mingus...
	♥ 5:09pm Fuzzy: @Carmichael: Harmony Sovereign made out of plywood too? I saw a nice unstrung one in a guitar shop window in Juneau back in '02-'03, with the pickup built into the bottom of the neck...shop was never open though, so I never got to check it out further.
	5:09pm LovecraftDude888: then there's the EClapton Fender ltd. amp.ha! a mere Grand.
	5:13pm LovecraftDude888: hrmm you can get a Vox Night Train ministack for $300, that's not bad at all. Keen! I think I'll stick with the headphone one.
	♥ 5:14pm Mike East: damn I missed out on some amp talk. I've had people ask me for those Clapton Fenders (for rentals) and I tell them to bring their own.
	5:16pm Listening Out There: ...or...I could be wrong. Am trying to find the article I read recently on Mingus. Am only finding info about the 1968 documentary. Sigh...
	5:17pm LovecraftDude888: I dunno how good those Clapton specials are, but willing to bet they ain't shabby! hehe
	5:17pm Carmichael: @Fuzzy: Only the solid body electrics were made out of pressed fiberboard. The acoustics actually had real wood from real trees.
	5:18pm LovecraftDude888: one thing about Sears now....you can count on it for A. pink floyd shirts and B. Carhartt jackets. naught else.
	♥ 5:19pm Fuzzy: That's what I thought -- mahogany methinks. Wish that shop had been open -- I really dug that guitar!
	♥ 5:20pm Fuzzy: Spruce top, mahogany back/sides
	5:27pm LovecraftDude888: I was thinking of inventing a 24-string and really driving myself insane hehe had a vision of that a few years ago...anyway, might order up a Vox Night Train headphone thingie. I might go for that in a bigg way
	5:28pm LovecraftDude888: wow this is like hardcore acid jazz. Ornette meets Xenakis meets Ministry on even more acid
	5:33pm Philthy woman: well thank you for the encouragment- we are going to make a movie!
	5:34pm still b/p: Someone emailed me that my phone must've been off the hook for a long time earlier this afternoon. I recall an extended electronic noise that might've been the phone company's attention-getter, but I assumed at the time it was something on this show at low volume.
	5:36pm LovecraftDude888: the NSA is resorting to using Xenakis at max. volume to drive terrorist suspects bonkers! works well
	5:38pm northguineahills: I forgot to type earlier, "Otomo!"
	5:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: Otomo!
	5:41pm LovecraftDude888: hit me Atari. with your rhythm stick hit me hit me oh it's cranky time.....
	5:45pm Carmichael: b/p, I often think the same thing about random sounds. I'll hit my mute to see if it's coming from FMU or just in the air. Particularly when listening to Bryce.
	5:46pm LovecraftDude888: it's like, Scott, we're not gonna waterboard you...instead you shall sit in this soundproof room for 10 months and be subjected to Katy Perry CDs.....you WILL break
	5:49pm northguineahills: Same here Carmichael, or during Kenzo's show.
	5:51pm Kurt Gottschalk: kenzo's belated last ever show...
	5:52pm Carmichael: Until next week ....
	5:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: i guess we can hope. he'll be back at some point, i'm sure.
	5:53pm LovecraftDude888: same Bat time...it's been fun gang....great show Kurt! really mind expanding for sure.
	5:54pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks for joining me!
	5:54pm northguineahills: Ok, gotta jump. Thanks Kurt and Minotaurites!
	5:57pm Listening Out There: good program. thx!
	♥ 5:58pm Caryn: Until next week, everyone!

Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from January 17, 2014

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