WFMU: Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from February 7, 2013

Listener comments!
	3:04am zelmo: I'm in my pajamas
	3:05am fred von helsing: it's time for the morning commute :-(
	3:06am Julie: Fred, you need the app for your phone pulgged into your car :)
	3:06am Julie: Good morning, folks!
	3:09am fred von helsing: Tube+walk+bus. Doesn't really work to hold a Mac open. If Kenzo's working on a brain implant I'm game.
	3:14am Julie: no..iphone! droid!
	3:17am BadGuyZero: I forgot that the last stream I'd had open on my laptop was one of the secondary streams. Imagine how puzzled I was expecting something like this but hearing The Meters [at least I think it was The Meters]. It was traumatic.
	3:21am Julie: hehe morning BGZ!
	3:25am BadGuyZero: Good morning, Julie! Hiya Fred and Zelmo!
	3:26am Karmalade Mitty: Good morning! :)
	3:27am Julie: Morning, miss Mitty!
	3:34am BadGuyZero: Good morning KM!
	3:38am Marmalade Kitty: Great set Julie!
	3:40am Julie: Thanks KM!
	3:49am BadGuyZero: Good morning MK!
	4:05am fred von helsing: no audio ! =:-O
	4:06am Julie: what???
	4:06am Julie: How are you listening, FVH?
	4:07am fred von helsing: ah my windoze is fubar / worst possible day of the week / trying windoze stream
	4:09am Julie: FVH you scared me there!
	4:09am BadGuyZero: I hear what Fred doesn't.
	4:14am BadGuyZero: m b v!!!
	4:15am fred von helsing: Yeay! Got sound !! I will track down Mr Ballmer and strangle him with his own entrails
	4:16am fred von helsing: What's the consensus on MBV ? I read a review that it's tired retreaded lame crap until the last 3 songs and then suddenly KERPOW!
	4:18am Julie: I haven't listened that closely yet really. I like what I've heard so far
	4:19am Marmalade Kitty: Im going to see mbv!
	4:20am BadGuyZero: Couple of "meh" tracks [the opening track, for instance]. The last couple of tracks are amazing and very different from anything on "Loveless." The rest is pretty standard MBV which I have no issue with.
	4:21am Julie: @MK where you seeing them, and when?
	4:21am Marmalade Kitty: They're playing at a venue I don't like.. I have a fear of upper circle collapse!
	4:22am Dogtooth: Incredible song of Alison's Halo, whole album is great! Thanks for this
	4:22am Julie: ewww
	4:22am BadGuyZero: MK: Take earplugs in case the venue isn't handing them out at the door. I had heard all about how LOUD! MBV is live. I totally underestimated what the volume level would be like. The sound was so loud the soundwaves created a breeze.
	4:23am Julie: the shoegaze bands I had in were really loud too. It's just their way
	4:25am fred von helsing: It might make more sense just to install vibrating chairs
	4:25am Marmalade Kitty: I certainly will! Thanks BGZ
	4:25am BadGuyZero: I'm not sure how they went about booking these upcoming shows. When I saw them a few years ago they only played four to six shows in the U.S. They were specifically looking for venues far away from residential areas. They were also utilizing local backline at the shows so the ability for the venue to obtain an ear-bleeding PA was a consideration. I was completely surprised that they came to Dallas. Dallas doesn't get shows of that caliber very often.
	4:28am Julie: so even with no new album they still were out playing
	4:28am Marmalade Kitty: I last saw Motorhead there. That was loud enough for me..!
	4:29am meghan: Morning everyone!
	4:29am Julie: Good morning, Meghan!
	4:31am BadGuyZero: During the holocaust coda from "You Made Me Realise" the volume kept going up and up. I could literally feel the earth shaking and my shirt was flapping in the sound breeze. I heard they topped out at 148 decibels at that show in Dallas.
	4:32am fred von helsing: G'morning!, got a pseudotheme cooked up ?
	4:32am fred von helsing: @bgz that sounds unpleasant, truth be told
	4:33am slugluv1313: lovely show (as always!), Julie!
	4:36am Marmalade Kitty: how were/are your ears BGZ, do you have ears left?
	4:37am BadGuyZero: @Julie: Yes. They did several reunion shows in 2008 and a few a year since. They played in London a couple of Sundays ago. This past Sunday they played in Korea several hours after the release of "m b v." They play the first of three shows in Tokyo tonight [I'm not sure of the exact time difference so that first show may already be in the books]. They play a few shows in Australia in a couple of weeks. More UK shows next month then nothing until May when they play Primavera.
	4:38am Julie: hey! thanks slugluv!
	4:38am BadGuyZero: @MK: I totally destroyed my hearing. I didn't use the earplugs the venue was handing out. By the time I thought maybe I should I knew that any damage had already been done. I've had tinnitus since that show. I never had issues with ringing in my ears prior to that show.
	4:39am Julie: oh wow BGZ that's awful. I know we have of lot of DJ's hear with hearing damage
	4:40am BadGuyZero: Even the volume they were playing the music at during the set changes...it was louder than a lot of bands are playing live. I have good days and bad days with the tinnitus. It gets worse when I get stressed out. Fortunately that doesn't happen to often.
	4:43am BadGuyZero: Prior to that MBV show I would say the loudest bands I'd seen were Ministry, Motorhead, Dinosaur Jr., Fireballs of Freedom and A Place To Bury Strangers [who I have seen play at levels approaching MBV loud; I've only seen them once where the power didn't go out from how loud they were].
	4:46am meghan: Morning FVH...... Well I have the first set planned out, other than that......
	4:47am BadGuyZero: I compare the MBV live volume to riding a roller coaster. You kinda fear for your life a little when it's happening but when it's over you want to go and do it again. I spent the day after the MBV show trying to make trips to see them in Denver and Seattle happen. Unfortunately airfare costs an effing fortune when you try to book three or four days before your trip so I didn't get to attend any other shows. :sad trombone:
	4:48am BadGuyZero: Good morning, Meghan!
	4:49am meghan: waves.
	4:51am Marmalade Kitty: open air gigs are safer for ears. I'm scared now bGZ o.O
	4:52am Julie: Bring good earplugs, Mk!
	4:52am Marmalade Kitty: ..not for fish
	4:54am meghan: MK I saw them in 1992 and they were wicked loud then. For the first 10 min they laid their guitars against their amps. I had earplugs thankfully
	4:58am fred von helsing: de gustibus non disputandum est
	4:59am slugluv1313: WOW!!!! vintage Leonard Cohen, AND Miranda Sex Garden!! way cool :) (i know, "vintage" is WAY over-used these days, but fits here right nice, imho)
	5:03am fred von helsing: I have an issue with how WFMU DJ's recount their sets. Maybe I should fire off an OFOFM (Old Fart to Old Fart Missive) to Ken.
	5:06am fred von helsing: Themeless in Theattle
	5:10am Julie: FVH do you mean the "college" technique of backwards instead of forwards? Some of us do it the other way
	5:15am fred von helsing: If you mention the last couple of songs in the set and then rewind to start from the very top of the set, it fits much better the listener's memory of how the set flowed, and the segues, and it's much easier to match the details of the DJ spiel to the specific songs. Also it's easier for the DJ to discuss the segues - the whyfors and whatnots. My 0,02€, YMMV, offer void where prohibited by tribal taboo.
	5:16am Julie: that sounds too much for my late night addled brain
	5:19am fred von helsing: TL;DR version: Nobody remembers a set in backwards order
	♥ 5:20am Matt from Springfield: Derek Xenoaklander! Have you played "Blue Flower" before? Good morning, Julie and Children of the Night!
	5:20am Julie: and yet that's how I'm used to hearing it here
	5:22am BadGuyZero: But if you tune in mid-set and don't know how many songs have been played in the set you can keep count so when the set is back-announced you can figure out what a specific song was easier than if the set is front-announced.
	5:22am fred von helsing: When you think about an album, esp'ly a concept album, do you think about the songs in reverse order? Or forward?
	♥ 5:22am Matt from Springfield: Now ist the time on Dark Night vere ve FALCO!
	5:23am Julie: well..at this point it's not that relevant because we all have the playlist over yonder
	♥ 5:24am Matt from Springfield: @BGZ: Yes, the "college" or "FM" style--I've seen people use your example on here to explain why that works better. As for me, I've lived entirely in the back-announce era, so that's just how I thought it was.
	5:24am fred von helsing: @BGZ Very true, but that's a perspective of damage control and it shortchanges the people that grok'd the entire set from top to bottom (IMHO). Obviously having a playlist in front of you renders this all academic.
	5:27am pierre: Late but here, Bonjour Julie, and Darkians !
	5:28am Julie: morning pierre!
	♥ 5:29am Matt from Springfield: @FVH: Yes, all academic theory with live playlist in front of you. But if you're playing an album (concept or otherwise), you would probably have the tracklist in front of you. You can listen, feel the changes and look up info in the liner notes. The back-announce seems mainly for sound-only listeners, or those joining the set. Anyway, that's my two cents (New Zealand $, for S&Gs), so until another day, another playlist...
	♥ 5:29am Matt from Springfield: Bonjour pierre!
	5:30am fred von helsing: "Another day, another playlist", good gracious that sounds jaded :)
	5:32am Julie: another girl another planet?
	5:32am Mark: i didn't realize the whole issue of back-announcing vs. front announcing was so controversial. Mr. Von Helsing's point is the most relevant--having online playlists renders most of this discussion moot. However, back-announcing is the way to go. If you tune in in the middle of a set (as most of us do), going from back to front is the only way to get caught up. If the announcer goes front to back, you have to literally count how many tunes they name until they reach the end of the list, then count backwards to find particular songs that you're desperately trying to identify. I've never heard any announcer front-announce a set.
	5:32am BadGuyZero: Try figuring out what's playing on Rock & Soul Ichiban! I liked a song I'd never heard before. I was out and about so I had to text a snippet of the lyrics to myself so I could try to identify it when I got home.
	5:33am Mark: ...and after writing "War and Peace" I got the answer to "2+2" wrong and had to re-post it!
	♥ 5:33am Matt from Springfield: "Against the heart"? @FVH: Hey, that's relevant to the WFMUniverse we live in! :) @BGZ: I thought there was an XML page you could go to for that, listing the songs played of the last few hours.
	5:35am fred von helsing: @mark I beg to differ. If yer tardy to the party ya gotta use yer noggin during the set recount to hazard a guess of where you joined in the fun!
	5:36am fred von helsing: I can already sense a disturbance in the Force. It's next week's Valentine Fail show. I feel a cry coming on.
	5:37am BadGuyZero: @Matt: I've never been successful in finding a playlist aside from the ones for re-airs of Fool's Paradise and a couple of other live DJ shows.
	5:37am Mark: Oh I don't want to fight with you! It's 5:30 in the morning for God's sake. I'm more interested in whether Julie is really wearing bunny slippers.
	5:37am BadGuyZero: GET OFF MY LAWN! :D
	5:37am Julie: hehehe
	5:39am Mark: Also, this whole "company" on Valentine's Day business, young lady. I trust no FCC regulations will be violated.
	♥ 5:39am Matt from Springfield: @BGZ: I heard they had one, can't find one on the website now. @FVH: Valentine's show--sobbing emotional trainwreck, in fluffy bunny slippers with heart shaped candy boxes!
	5:40am Mark: I really thought Speaking Silence was Tori Amos.
	5:41am BadGuyZero: @Matt: I recall coming across one too. It's probably wherever all the mp3 archives were moved to.
	5:42am fred von helsing: Dip me in dark chocolate and feed me to all the goth-garage babes on the rebound. What could possibly go wrong?
	♥ 5:42am Meghan: I am really enjoying today's show, by the way....
	5:43am fred von helsing: A show about animals with bright blue butts ?
	♥ 5:43am Matt from Springfield: Didn't know it was the anniversary of Falco's death--danke for the tribute! Of course the Austrian friend told you, prob. a day of national mourning there! On US alternative radio, they did apparently play Falco's original Deutsch "Der Kommissar" before After The Fire covered it.
	5:43am Julie: thanks Meghan! Check your locker by the way
	♥ 5:44am Meghan: squeeeeeeeee!!!!! Thanks!!!!
	5:44am fred von helsing: For Meghan's show NEXT week, how many songs have "sob" or "sobbing" in the title ? It doesn't count if it's "S.O.B.".
	♥ 5:45am Matt from Springfield: @FVH: "goth-garage babes on the rebound"...even the adjectives here really create an amazing fantasy world :)
	♥ 5:46am Matt from Springfield: NO S.O.B.? That would definitely make it more difficult.
	♥ 5:46am Meghan: hahaha.... funny FVH
	5:48am BadGuyZero: :registering www.gothgaragebabesontherebound.com:
	5:49am Julie: haha last week someone made a julie while crying tumblr
	5:49am BadGuyZero: How cute. The playlist thinks that's a real link.
	5:50am Julie: OMG Marc such language!
	5:50am fred von helsing: @bgz BTW good to see that cryingwhilejulie is getting some content. Ya gonna let us all in to post?
	♥ 5:50am Matt from Springfield: "Three Black Nights of Little Black Bites" -- this Marc and the Mambas is great, he's got a Morrissey-like grip on the lyrics!
	♥ 5:53am Matt from Springfield: Theatrical chamber punk goth!
	5:54am Julie: thanks for listening you guys!!
	5:54am Mark: You have lots of fans. When I did freeform from 3-6 am in Ann Arbor, I couldn't even give away free tickets. The only human contact I had was with an alcoholic who called me three different times with requests (I played them all). The last time he said "Aronapamaa." I didn't play that one.
	5:55am Julie: I get drunk calls too!
	♥ 5:55am Matt from Springfield: "Another Girl, Another Planet" :D Thanks for spinning, Julie!
	5:55am BadGuyZero: I am not associated with the Crying While Julie tumblr. I am, however, the keeper of the notes for a fake Entourage screenplay!
	5:56am Mark: It's nice to know people are listening...
	5:56am BadGuyZero: The Replacements covered this song live so many times.
	5:56am fred von helsing: cryingwhilejulie.tumblr.com
	♥ 5:56am Matt from Springfield: @BGZ: Excellent! Are you going to call in with a summary of the film so far? :) @Mark: Ah, you're another WCBN alum?
	5:57am fred von helsing: @bgz Oh I thought that was yours! Or was it Hamburger?
	♥ 5:57am Matt from Springfield: Woohoo! Updated content on Crying While Julie!
	5:57am BadGuyZero: @Matt: I have a possible ending I'll probably call in and pitch.
	5:57am fred von helsing: "plus T-shirts AND PIZZA" said Ken yesterday
	5:58am BadGuyZero: @Fred: It was hamburger.
	5:58am Julie: I can't believe I said Have a good one..what a dope..
	5:58am BadGuyZero: Seeya later, Julie!
	5:58am fred von helsing: your love is a lesion / contagious adhesion
	5:58am Mark: Yep. I had only done about a month of my dead-of-night shift when I got a job in NY and moved! I miss doing radio but I love WFMU.
	♥ 5:58am Matt from Springfield: @FVH: Of course pizza! And any leftover premiums, and any leftover pills Ken has sitting around... @BGZ: I look forward to it!
	♥ 5:59am Matt from Springfield: Have a great Thursday everyone!
	5:59am fred von helsing: Prepare for... The Thematic Unknown !!
	6:01am Mark: That's 3 Tylenols and what looks like a benadryl that somebody stepped on.
	8:09am Van in DC: My turn!
	12:11pm Van in DC: Good show!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from February 7, 2013

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Familiar & forgotten gems from 50-plus years of music on the darker side, shoegaze, synthpop, goth, psychedelia, darkwave, with unapologetic detours into 70s pop. In a dark night of the soul, it's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

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February 7, 2013: Dark Musings

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
The Birthday Massacre	In the Dark	Pins and Needles	Metropolis Records	2010				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Emily Danger	Shed My Skin "Shed My Skin" by "Emily Danger"	Paintings EP	Emily Danger	2012				0:03:01 (Pop-up)
The Psychedelic Furs	Sister Europe	The Psychedelic Furs	CBS	1980	LP			0:07:18 (Pop-up)
Wall of Voodoo	Ring of Fire "Ring of Fire" by "Wall of Voodoo"	Wall of Voodoo	International Record Syndicate	1980	EP			0:12:51 (Pop-up)
Lush	Monochrome "Monochrome" by "Lush"	Spooky	4AD	1991				0:17:53 (Pop-up)
Big Hat	Fallen Angel "Fallen Angel" by "Big Hat"	Selena At My Window	March Records	1993				0:22:54 (Pop-up)
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds	Lovely Creature	Murder Ballads	Reprise Records	1996				0:29:13 (Pop-up)
The Cure	Three Imaginary Boys "Three Imaginary Boys" by "The Cure"	Three Imaginary Boys	Fiction Records	1979				0:33:28 (Pop-up)
Jefferson Airplane	Star Track "Star Track" by "Jefferson Airplane"	Crown of Creation	RCA	1968	LP			0:36:41 (Pop-up)
Current 93	All the World Makes Great Blood	Halo	World Serpent	2004				0:40:15 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Brain Damage/Eclipse "Brain Damage/Eclipse" by "Pink Floyd"	Works	Capitol	1983	LP	originally on Dark Side of the Moon		0:43:57 (Pop-up)
Husikesque	Bad Head Day "Bad Head Day" by "Husikesque"	Green Blue Fire	Astralwerks	1996				0:49:17 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Nanase Hikaru	jibrille-silent mourning	Angel Sanctuary OST						1:00:35 (Pop-up)
Heather Nova	Talking to Strangers	Glow Stars	Big Life Records	1993				1:00:58 (Pop-up)
Inkubus Sukkubus	Trinity "Trinity" by "Inkubus Sukkubus"	Belladonna and Aconite	Rescurrection Records	1993				1:03:50 (Pop-up)
Funeral Party	Liquid Sky Days "Liquid Sky Days" by "Funeral Party"	Serpentime	Silent Scream Records	2003				1:07:27 (Pop-up)
My Bloody Valentine	Only Tomorrow	MBV	mybloodyvalentine.org	2013			*	1:11:56 (Pop-up)
Alison's Halo	Melt "Melt" by "Alison's Halo"	Eyedazzler 1992-1996	Burnt Hair	1998				1:18:27 (Pop-up)
Robin Guthrie & Harold Budd	Twilight	Mysterious Skin OST	Commotion	2005				1:22:37 (Pop-up)
The Shakers	Snowdrops "Snowdrops" by "The Shakers"	Songs From Beneath The Lake	Carlyle Records	1990				1:26:19 (Pop-up)
Three Dog Night	Cowboy "Cowboy" by "Three Dog Night"	It Ain't Easy	MCA	1970				1:29:28 (Pop-up)
Legendary Pink Dots	Peace of Mind	Your Children Placate You From Premature Graves	ROIR	2006				1:33:12 (Pop-up)
Leonard Cohen	A Singer Must Die "A Singer Must Die" by "Leonard Cohen"	New Skin for the Old Ceremony	CBS	1974	LP			1:38:28 (Pop-up)
Emilie Simon	Come As You Are "Come As You Are" by "Emilie Simon"	L'Olympia	Barclay	2007				1:42:21 (Pop-up)
Harold Budd, Simon Raymonde, Robin Guthrie & Elizabeth Fraser	Sea, Swallow Me	The Moon and the Melodies	4AD	1986				1:45:14 (Pop-up)
Cranes	Wonderful Things "Wonderful Things" by "Cranes"	Cranes	Dadaphonic	2008				1:48:17 (Pop-up)
Miranda Sex Garden	Cut "Cut" by "Miranda Sex Garden"	Fairytales Of Slavery	Mute	1994				1:52:34 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Cocteau Twins	Oomingmak (instrumental)							1:58:04 (Pop-up)
Sunshine Blind	I Ran "I Ran" by "Sunshine Blind"	Liquid	Energy Records	1996				2:05:55 (Pop-up)
The Stranglers	Hanging Around "Hanging Around" by "The Stranglers"	IV	A&M Records	1977	LP			2:10:28 (Pop-up)
Xeno and Oaklander	Blue Flower "Blue Flower" by "Xeno and Oaklander"	Looking for Europe: The Neofolk Compendium	Prophecy	2005				2:14:52 (Pop-up)
Falco	Auf der Flucht "Auf der Flucht" by "Falco"	Einzelhaft	A&M Records	1982	LP			2:18:11 (Pop-up)
David Bowie	No Control "No Control" by "David Bowie"	Outside	Virgin Records	1995				2:22:21 (Pop-up)
Lisa Germano	Strange Bird "Strange Bird" by "Lisa Germano"	No Elephants	Badman Records	2013			*	2:26:49 (Pop-up)
In The Nursery	Contre-Coeur "Contre-Coeur" by "In The Nursery"	Sense	Third Mind Records	1991				2:29:23 (Pop-up)
Speaking Silence	Overflowing Souls	The Twilight World	H.A.R.	2002				2:32:38 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Nanase Hikaru	jibrille-silent mourning	Angel Sanctuary OST						2:37:21 (Pop-up)
All About Eve	Blindfolded Visionary	Ultraviolet	MCA	1992				2:40:50 (Pop-up)
Julian Cope	No Hard Shoulder to Cry On	Jehovahkill	Island Records	1992				2:43:35 (Pop-up)
Marc and the Mambas	Your Love is a Lesion	Three Black Nights of Little Black Bites with...	Cherry Red	2013		Marc Almond	*	2:46:22 (Pop-up)
The Only Ones	Another Girl, Another Planet	The Only Ones	CBS	1978				2:51:30 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Syd Barrett	Gigolo Aunt (loop) "Gigolo Aunt (loop)" by "Syd Barrett"							2:55:09 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:04am zelmo: I'm in my pajamas
	3:05am fred von helsing: it's time for the morning commute :-(
	3:06am Julie: Fred, you need the app for your phone pulgged into your car :)
	3:06am Julie: Good morning, folks!
	3:09am fred von helsing: Tube+walk+bus. Doesn't really work to hold a Mac open. If Kenzo's working on a brain implant I'm game.
	3:14am Julie: no..iphone! droid!
	3:17am BadGuyZero: I forgot that the last stream I'd had open on my laptop was one of the secondary streams. Imagine how puzzled I was expecting something like this but hearing The Meters [at least I think it was The Meters]. It was traumatic.
	3:21am Julie: hehe morning BGZ!
	3:25am BadGuyZero: Good morning, Julie! Hiya Fred and Zelmo!
	3:26am Karmalade Mitty: Good morning! :)
	3:27am Julie: Morning, miss Mitty!
	3:34am BadGuyZero: Good morning KM!
	3:38am Marmalade Kitty: Great set Julie!
	3:40am Julie: Thanks KM!
	3:49am BadGuyZero: Good morning MK!
	4:05am fred von helsing: no audio ! =:-O
	4:06am Julie: what???
	4:06am Julie: How are you listening, FVH?
	4:07am fred von helsing: ah my windoze is fubar / worst possible day of the week / trying windoze stream
	4:09am Julie: FVH you scared me there!
	4:09am BadGuyZero: I hear what Fred doesn't.
	4:14am BadGuyZero: m b v!!!
	4:15am fred von helsing: Yeay! Got sound !! I will track down Mr Ballmer and strangle him with his own entrails
	4:16am fred von helsing: What's the consensus on MBV ? I read a review that it's tired retreaded lame crap until the last 3 songs and then suddenly KERPOW!
	4:18am Julie: I haven't listened that closely yet really. I like what I've heard so far
	4:19am Marmalade Kitty: Im going to see mbv!
	4:20am BadGuyZero: Couple of "meh" tracks [the opening track, for instance]. The last couple of tracks are amazing and very different from anything on "Loveless." The rest is pretty standard MBV which I have no issue with.
	4:21am Julie: @MK where you seeing them, and when?
	4:21am Marmalade Kitty: They're playing at a venue I don't like.. I have a fear of upper circle collapse!
	4:22am Dogtooth: Incredible song of Alison's Halo, whole album is great! Thanks for this
	4:22am Julie: ewww
	4:22am BadGuyZero: MK: Take earplugs in case the venue isn't handing them out at the door. I had heard all about how LOUD! MBV is live. I totally underestimated what the volume level would be like. The sound was so loud the soundwaves created a breeze.
	4:23am Julie: the shoegaze bands I had in were really loud too. It's just their way
	4:25am fred von helsing: It might make more sense just to install vibrating chairs
	4:25am Marmalade Kitty: I certainly will! Thanks BGZ
	4:25am BadGuyZero: I'm not sure how they went about booking these upcoming shows. When I saw them a few years ago they only played four to six shows in the U.S. They were specifically looking for venues far away from residential areas. They were also utilizing local backline at the shows so the ability for the venue to obtain an ear-bleeding PA was a consideration. I was completely surprised that they came to Dallas. Dallas doesn't get shows of that caliber very often.
	4:28am Julie: so even with no new album they still were out playing
	4:28am Marmalade Kitty: I last saw Motorhead there. That was loud enough for me..!
	4:29am meghan: Morning everyone!
	4:29am Julie: Good morning, Meghan!
	4:31am BadGuyZero: During the holocaust coda from "You Made Me Realise" the volume kept going up and up. I could literally feel the earth shaking and my shirt was flapping in the sound breeze. I heard they topped out at 148 decibels at that show in Dallas.
	4:32am fred von helsing: G'morning!, got a pseudotheme cooked up ?
	4:32am fred von helsing: @bgz that sounds unpleasant, truth be told
	4:33am slugluv1313: lovely show (as always!), Julie!
	4:36am Marmalade Kitty: how were/are your ears BGZ, do you have ears left?
	4:37am BadGuyZero: @Julie: Yes. They did several reunion shows in 2008 and a few a year since. They played in London a couple of Sundays ago. This past Sunday they played in Korea several hours after the release of "m b v." They play the first of three shows in Tokyo tonight [I'm not sure of the exact time difference so that first show may already be in the books]. They play a few shows in Australia in a couple of weeks. More UK shows next month then nothing until May when they play Primavera.
	4:38am Julie: hey! thanks slugluv!
	4:38am BadGuyZero: @MK: I totally destroyed my hearing. I didn't use the earplugs the venue was handing out. By the time I thought maybe I should I knew that any damage had already been done. I've had tinnitus since that show. I never had issues with ringing in my ears prior to that show.
	4:39am Julie: oh wow BGZ that's awful. I know we have of lot of DJ's hear with hearing damage
	4:40am BadGuyZero: Even the volume they were playing the music at during the set changes...it was louder than a lot of bands are playing live. I have good days and bad days with the tinnitus. It gets worse when I get stressed out. Fortunately that doesn't happen to often.
	4:43am BadGuyZero: Prior to that MBV show I would say the loudest bands I'd seen were Ministry, Motorhead, Dinosaur Jr., Fireballs of Freedom and A Place To Bury Strangers [who I have seen play at levels approaching MBV loud; I've only seen them once where the power didn't go out from how loud they were].
	4:46am meghan: Morning FVH...... Well I have the first set planned out, other than that......
	4:47am BadGuyZero: I compare the MBV live volume to riding a roller coaster. You kinda fear for your life a little when it's happening but when it's over you want to go and do it again. I spent the day after the MBV show trying to make trips to see them in Denver and Seattle happen. Unfortunately airfare costs an effing fortune when you try to book three or four days before your trip so I didn't get to attend any other shows. :sad trombone:
	4:48am BadGuyZero: Good morning, Meghan!
	4:49am meghan: waves.
	4:51am Marmalade Kitty: open air gigs are safer for ears. I'm scared now bGZ o.O
	4:52am Julie: Bring good earplugs, Mk!
	4:52am Marmalade Kitty: ..not for fish
	4:54am meghan: MK I saw them in 1992 and they were wicked loud then. For the first 10 min they laid their guitars against their amps. I had earplugs thankfully
	4:58am fred von helsing: de gustibus non disputandum est
	4:59am slugluv1313: WOW!!!! vintage Leonard Cohen, AND Miranda Sex Garden!! way cool :) (i know, "vintage" is WAY over-used these days, but fits here right nice, imho)
	5:03am fred von helsing: I have an issue with how WFMU DJ's recount their sets. Maybe I should fire off an OFOFM (Old Fart to Old Fart Missive) to Ken.
	5:06am fred von helsing: Themeless in Theattle
	5:10am Julie: FVH do you mean the "college" technique of backwards instead of forwards? Some of us do it the other way
	5:15am fred von helsing: If you mention the last couple of songs in the set and then rewind to start from the very top of the set, it fits much better the listener's memory of how the set flowed, and the segues, and it's much easier to match the details of the DJ spiel to the specific songs. Also it's easier for the DJ to discuss the segues - the whyfors and whatnots. My 0,02€, YMMV, offer void where prohibited by tribal taboo.
	5:16am Julie: that sounds too much for my late night addled brain
	5:19am fred von helsing: TL;DR version: Nobody remembers a set in backwards order
	♥ 5:20am Matt from Springfield: Derek Xenoaklander! Have you played "Blue Flower" before? Good morning, Julie and Children of the Night!
	5:20am Julie: and yet that's how I'm used to hearing it here
	5:22am BadGuyZero: But if you tune in mid-set and don't know how many songs have been played in the set you can keep count so when the set is back-announced you can figure out what a specific song was easier than if the set is front-announced.
	5:22am fred von helsing: When you think about an album, esp'ly a concept album, do you think about the songs in reverse order? Or forward?
	♥ 5:22am Matt from Springfield: Now ist the time on Dark Night vere ve FALCO!
	5:23am Julie: well..at this point it's not that relevant because we all have the playlist over yonder
	♥ 5:24am Matt from Springfield: @BGZ: Yes, the "college" or "FM" style--I've seen people use your example on here to explain why that works better. As for me, I've lived entirely in the back-announce era, so that's just how I thought it was.
	5:24am fred von helsing: @BGZ Very true, but that's a perspective of damage control and it shortchanges the people that grok'd the entire set from top to bottom (IMHO). Obviously having a playlist in front of you renders this all academic.
	5:27am pierre: Late but here, Bonjour Julie, and Darkians !
	5:28am Julie: morning pierre!
	♥ 5:29am Matt from Springfield: @FVH: Yes, all academic theory with live playlist in front of you. But if you're playing an album (concept or otherwise), you would probably have the tracklist in front of you. You can listen, feel the changes and look up info in the liner notes. The back-announce seems mainly for sound-only listeners, or those joining the set. Anyway, that's my two cents (New Zealand $, for S&Gs), so until another day, another playlist...
	♥ 5:29am Matt from Springfield: Bonjour pierre!
	5:30am fred von helsing: "Another day, another playlist", good gracious that sounds jaded :)
	5:32am Julie: another girl another planet?
	5:32am Mark: i didn't realize the whole issue of back-announcing vs. front announcing was so controversial. Mr. Von Helsing's point is the most relevant--having online playlists renders most of this discussion moot. However, back-announcing is the way to go. If you tune in in the middle of a set (as most of us do), going from back to front is the only way to get caught up. If the announcer goes front to back, you have to literally count how many tunes they name until they reach the end of the list, then count backwards to find particular songs that you're desperately trying to identify. I've never heard any announcer front-announce a set.
	5:32am BadGuyZero: Try figuring out what's playing on Rock & Soul Ichiban! I liked a song I'd never heard before. I was out and about so I had to text a snippet of the lyrics to myself so I could try to identify it when I got home.
	5:33am Mark: ...and after writing "War and Peace" I got the answer to "2+2" wrong and had to re-post it!
	♥ 5:33am Matt from Springfield: "Against the heart"? @FVH: Hey, that's relevant to the WFMUniverse we live in! :) @BGZ: I thought there was an XML page you could go to for that, listing the songs played of the last few hours.
	5:35am fred von helsing: @mark I beg to differ. If yer tardy to the party ya gotta use yer noggin during the set recount to hazard a guess of where you joined in the fun!
	5:36am fred von helsing: I can already sense a disturbance in the Force. It's next week's Valentine Fail show. I feel a cry coming on.
	5:37am BadGuyZero: @Matt: I've never been successful in finding a playlist aside from the ones for re-airs of Fool's Paradise and a couple of other live DJ shows.
	5:37am Mark: Oh I don't want to fight with you! It's 5:30 in the morning for God's sake. I'm more interested in whether Julie is really wearing bunny slippers.
	5:37am BadGuyZero: GET OFF MY LAWN! :D
	5:37am Julie: hehehe
	5:39am Mark: Also, this whole "company" on Valentine's Day business, young lady. I trust no FCC regulations will be violated.
	♥ 5:39am Matt from Springfield: @BGZ: I heard they had one, can't find one on the website now. @FVH: Valentine's show--sobbing emotional trainwreck, in fluffy bunny slippers with heart shaped candy boxes!
	5:40am Mark: I really thought Speaking Silence was Tori Amos.
	5:41am BadGuyZero: @Matt: I recall coming across one too. It's probably wherever all the mp3 archives were moved to.
	5:42am fred von helsing: Dip me in dark chocolate and feed me to all the goth-garage babes on the rebound. What could possibly go wrong?
	♥ 5:42am Meghan: I am really enjoying today's show, by the way....
	5:43am fred von helsing: A show about animals with bright blue butts ?
	♥ 5:43am Matt from Springfield: Didn't know it was the anniversary of Falco's death--danke for the tribute! Of course the Austrian friend told you, prob. a day of national mourning there! On US alternative radio, they did apparently play Falco's original Deutsch "Der Kommissar" before After The Fire covered it.
	5:43am Julie: thanks Meghan! Check your locker by the way
	♥ 5:44am Meghan: squeeeeeeeee!!!!! Thanks!!!!
	5:44am fred von helsing: For Meghan's show NEXT week, how many songs have "sob" or "sobbing" in the title ? It doesn't count if it's "S.O.B.".
	♥ 5:45am Matt from Springfield: @FVH: "goth-garage babes on the rebound"...even the adjectives here really create an amazing fantasy world :)
	♥ 5:46am Matt from Springfield: NO S.O.B.? That would definitely make it more difficult.
	♥ 5:46am Meghan: hahaha.... funny FVH
	5:48am BadGuyZero: :registering www.gothgaragebabesontherebound.com:
	5:49am Julie: haha last week someone made a julie while crying tumblr
	5:49am BadGuyZero: How cute. The playlist thinks that's a real link.
	5:50am Julie: OMG Marc such language!
	5:50am fred von helsing: @bgz BTW good to see that cryingwhilejulie is getting some content. Ya gonna let us all in to post?
	♥ 5:50am Matt from Springfield: "Three Black Nights of Little Black Bites" -- this Marc and the Mambas is great, he's got a Morrissey-like grip on the lyrics!
	♥ 5:53am Matt from Springfield: Theatrical chamber punk goth!
	5:54am Julie: thanks for listening you guys!!
	5:54am Mark: You have lots of fans. When I did freeform from 3-6 am in Ann Arbor, I couldn't even give away free tickets. The only human contact I had was with an alcoholic who called me three different times with requests (I played them all). The last time he said "Aronapamaa." I didn't play that one.
	5:55am Julie: I get drunk calls too!
	♥ 5:55am Matt from Springfield: "Another Girl, Another Planet" :D Thanks for spinning, Julie!
	5:55am BadGuyZero: I am not associated with the Crying While Julie tumblr. I am, however, the keeper of the notes for a fake Entourage screenplay!
	5:56am Mark: It's nice to know people are listening...
	5:56am BadGuyZero: The Replacements covered this song live so many times.
	5:56am fred von helsing: cryingwhilejulie.tumblr.com
	♥ 5:56am Matt from Springfield: @BGZ: Excellent! Are you going to call in with a summary of the film so far? :) @Mark: Ah, you're another WCBN alum?
	5:57am fred von helsing: @bgz Oh I thought that was yours! Or was it Hamburger?
	♥ 5:57am Matt from Springfield: Woohoo! Updated content on Crying While Julie!
	5:57am BadGuyZero: @Matt: I have a possible ending I'll probably call in and pitch.
	5:57am fred von helsing: "plus T-shirts AND PIZZA" said Ken yesterday
	5:58am BadGuyZero: @Fred: It was hamburger.
	5:58am Julie: I can't believe I said Have a good one..what a dope..
	5:58am BadGuyZero: Seeya later, Julie!
	5:58am fred von helsing: your love is a lesion / contagious adhesion
	5:58am Mark: Yep. I had only done about a month of my dead-of-night shift when I got a job in NY and moved! I miss doing radio but I love WFMU.
	♥ 5:58am Matt from Springfield: @FVH: Of course pizza! And any leftover premiums, and any leftover pills Ken has sitting around... @BGZ: I look forward to it!
	♥ 5:59am Matt from Springfield: Have a great Thursday everyone!
	5:59am fred von helsing: Prepare for... The Thematic Unknown !!
	6:01am Mark: That's 3 Tylenols and what looks like a benadryl that somebody stepped on.
	8:09am Van in DC: My turn!
	12:11pm Van in DC: Good show!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from February 7, 2013

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