WFMU: Talk's Cheap with Jason Sigal: Playlist from January 13, 2011

Listener comments!
	9:03am Bad Ronald: Good morning. Sweet opener Jason!
	9:04am annie: aahhllrighty then!!
	9:04am jason: 'mornin BR!
	9:05am CheriPi: Good morning!
	9:06am jason: hey annie, cheripi, happy world's fair use day to all!
	9:13am Bad Ronald: Ha I was just thinking about Rick's white chainsaw on the cover. Thanks for posting the pic! Happy World's Fair Use Day too you as well!
	9:13am still b/p: The narrated video on the Fair Use Day site played while stream's separate player as accompaniment. Better than fair...Perfect! http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/2833
	9:15am still b/p: whups. -- that is, separate player with Alkibar track continuing as accompaniment..
	9:15am annie: and, btw, RIP dave nelson
	9:16am annie: that's Uncle dave to Nelson
	9:23am BSI: just joined the party, evidently a song or two late!
	9:24am schizflow: this bass line is like the king tubby sample in that panda bear live track
	9:24am Metal Cop: hey man pass the glue
	9:29am schizflow: here's the sample http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGV7lcujksM
	9:32am Ruaraidh: Fine Ferraro blurt sounding good from Scotland Jason! Hope yr well
	9:42am jason: thank you schizflow, i didnt know panda bear sampled king tubby hey Ruaraidh! thanks for tunin' in from Scotland, hope to see you back here soon
	9:45am dc pat: boy am I glad I missed Talk's Cheap Trick..
	9:47am john: Crosly Bendix!
	9:51am Richard from Venezuela: Good morning Jason and all the listeners
	9:55am jason: hey Richard! Don't worry DC Pat
	9:58am dc pat: yeah, I chalked it up to temporary insanity..
	10:02am schizflow: great stuff, gotta go will listen to the rest later. and thanks for the info about world fair use day. btw the tubby sample is only on the live versions of alsatian darn, not the 7"
	10:05am reid: heard it thru the tang was delicious!
	10:27am ?: CHEAP TRICK!
	10:28am Cecile: that was me. Ugh.
	10:28am Cecile: Jason, you should do a remix contest for Fair Use Day next year.
	10:30am jason: good idea Cecile! but also...tricky. Cheap Tricky
	10:33am Cecile: Remix Tricky.
	10:34am jason: virtual tour of the 2011 Golden Festival's venue, the Grand Prospect Hall: http://www.grandprospect.com/vtour3/Website%20Assets/vtour3.shtml
	10:36am Cecile: If the weather isn't terrible, would the Golden Festival be a good time to visit New York?
	10:41am Richard from Venezuela: The work of Les Petits Chanteurs de Montigny on Free Music Archive. A magic collection of choral tunes. Highly recommended. http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Les_Petits_Chanteurs_de_Montigny/Compilation_classique/
	10:43am CheriPi: Swell Maps!
	10:44am glenn: did tom of finland take that cheap trick photo?
	10:44am CheriPi: I've saved the Dream police pic in my Halloween costumes idea file.
	10:46am glenn: who will you be, cheri?
	10:46am Cecile: If there was no Cheap Trick, Tom of Finland would have had to invent them.
	10:48am Carmichael: Good morning Jason and cheap talkers. Boy, what a photo to greet me this morning.
	10:48am glenn: on the other hand, if there was no tom of finland, cheap trick would have had to invent him. (it could happen)
	10:50am Cecile: my brain just exploded. Speaking of exploding brain, Jason do you know there is now a second volume of Tonetta songs that just came out?
	10:51am Carmichael: This dude knows how to fuzz out.
	10:54am CheriPi: Bun E. Carlos-becasue he looks the most cop-like and I'd want to be taken very seriously.
	10:55am dc pat: I think if Cheap Trick and Gorilla Angreb got in a fight, Gorilla would mop the floor with those motherfuckers
	10:56am dc pat: ..and if Tripod Jimmie just looked at Cheap Trick, they'd melt.
	10:56am jason: haha hey DC Pat, whaddayagotagainst cheap trick?
	10:58am Cecile: Yeah. I mean, they're Steve Albini's favorite band. I love them myself, great live band. Tripod Jimmie are pretty damn great, though.
	10:58am Cecile: I have all their releases.
	10:59am still b/p: OK, for Halloween, could you stage a period production gang fight between the Cheapies as pictured and the Bee Gees and Frampton in their Stigwood Sgt. Pepper get-ups? ..be kind of a sub-text tribute nod to The Warriors and Clockwork Orange at the same time.
	11:01am dc pat: I dunno, maybe cuz their music drives me up the fekkin wall? Actually I don't care that much, just grumpy today... But, where'd you get that about Albini, Cecile? Not that I would ever question your rawk knowledge (I'm serious) but never heard that one..
	11:02am jason: what is the most hated band amongst wfmu listeners?
	11:03am Cecile: still b/p - I LOVE IT. He's talked about how great they are, covered "he's a whore" and produced some of their later albums. And said, pretty much they are one of his favorite bands.
	11:04am dc pat: oh
	11:04am Cecile: For me? Probably Dream Theater or Rush.
	11:04am CheriPi: she looSpeaking of Pissed Jeans-being a Sam Kinison Woman for Halloween crossed my mind. What would like? Hmmmmmmm
	11:05am dc pat: Pissed Jeans vs Cheap Trick: 5 million and 6 to nill
	11:06am BSI: Jason: most hated? egad, that's a tough one. I dislike a lot of stuff but "hate"... this will require some brain......
	11:06am glenn: it's a tossup - rush, styx, foreigner, journey. as a side note, have you ever noticed that all bands using place names suck? i.e. boston, chicago, kansas.
	11:06am CheriPi: Sorry for my typo above-Besides the Beatles-my most hated bands are the Eagles & Fleetwood Mac. A guy got kicked out of Iron Maiden for listening to the Eagles.
	11:07am dc pat: for me it's any group that I don't care for but has a song that gets stuck in my head, like DREAM POLICE!! AAAAHAHHHHHH!! It's not that I loath them but the song-in-head really annoys me.
	11:07am Joe B: I'll take Fleetwood Mac over Iron Maiden
	11:07am Cecile: No, not Rush. Styx or Journey. I respect Rush too much. The Eagles make me kind of angry. They were the kind of rich hippies I hated in the 70s.
	11:08am glenn: cheri, there are really two fleetwood macs. when peter green was in the band, they were great.
	11:08am Cecile: Joe B, I'm with you. Except for that first Maiden album. It was like Motorhead with a good guitarist. I like both phases of Mac, Glenn, but always prefer the later era when Lindsay's singing and playing.
	11:09am CheriPi: I Hate Rush-and that liberal Neil Young.
	11:09am Gene: Tripod Jimmie reminded me a lot Ted Milton's Blurt.. Cool :)
	11:09am Cecile: Not a good guitarist, I mean two shredding metal guitarists. But still great.
	11:10am glenn: or maybe i should say when fleetwood mac was peter green's group, they were great. i don't hate rumours era f.m. either, but prefer the former.
	11:10am Cecile: I will have to agree to disagree with you about Neil. And Neil is actually more liberatarian than liberal.
	11:11am Joe B: Movie Star Junkies live set - April 21, 2009. Thanks for the plug!
	11:11am Cecile: Long Walk is a fantastic album. Can I request Autumn Leaves next week, Jason?
	11:11am dc pat: whoa CheriPi. Mostly I can agree w/ what folks are saying but the Beatles and Neil Young?? I can't get behind that..
	11:11am glenn: neil is just neil. the man is a force of nature, plain and simple.
	11:12am dc pat: right on glenn.
	11:12am Cecile: I didn't like the Beatles when the only songs I heard were their worst over and over. As I got older, I wouldn't say I was a Beatlemaniac, but Rubber Soul and the White Album are spotless.
	11:13am Cecile: To paraphase Lady Sovereign, he's great at being Neil Young.
	11:14am dc pat: well you also have to break 'em up into Paul vs John.
	11:14am CheriPi: Lady Sov's last album was SOOOO BAD I sold it back.
	11:15am Cecile: Some of Paul's are my favorite songs. And I'm a big Ringo fan. Bless his heart. But yeah.
	11:17am glenn: go see ringo's all starr band if you can. it is way fun.
	11:17am CheriPi: My boyfriend tortures me w/ Rush & Neil Young when we're in his car.
	11:18am glenn: that's just payback for all those chick flicks you make him watch with you. maybe you just hate canada, cheri.
	11:19am Cecile: No way, Glenn. She likes Voivod!
	11:20am dc pat: Ringo rules. Generally I prefer John but can't get over Paul's bass/guitar playing and general instrumentation. Who's the other guy again?
	11:20am Thomas: hey, you're welcome!
	11:22am Cecile: George. The one who wrote the brilliant "Taxman"?
	11:22am john: George, the one with the arguable best solo career
	11:22am dc pat: ok, time to have things thrown at my head but, generally I appreciate their music and love the early albums but over-all I think the Stones are the most overrated group on Earth. Bye!....
	11:23am CheriPi: It is definitely payback for making him Listen to Wanda Jackson's cover of "Fever." I do love Canada though-and I will defend their bands to the death-SNFU, VOIVOD!, Glenn Gould-but I draw the line at RUSH.
	11:24am BSI: DHOLI!!!!!!!!!!!
	11:24am Cecile: I think I would enjoy talking to Rush before a show, having a Molson's with them. But I would jet before they started playing any music.
	11:24am Joe B: re George's solo career - you wouldn't be saying that if you made the same mistake I did of buying the box set Dark Horse Years. some pretty awful stuff there covering about 10 years 76-86?
	11:24am john: Just got this Ami Dang album yesterday, it is so good
	11:26am glenn: the doc. about rush is supposed to be very entertaining. as far as sir paul goes, he's a major league asshole, but he's a fantastic bass player.
	11:27am Cecile: Oh, I know George's solo career is problematic. I grew up in the 70s! But his Beatles songs are great. I actually heard part of 33 1/3 in a store the other week, and went to the clerk, "this is what we were so upset about? This sounds pretty decent." OH. I know what artist I really, really hate. Cat Stevens. And the most overrated group IMO is U2. Their first record and a half were great, after that, oy?!?!?!
	11:27am glenn: hey, target is finally coming to canada. no more retail deprivation for soviet canuckistan.
	11:28am john: long live the Kinks!
	11:28am CheriPi: I do a really good impression of Getty talking to Neil during long drawn out space jams asking him to cover him for a bathrom break- It drives the man nuts. "Neil-do you still have that cup from lunch w/ you?...just give me 2 minutes"
	11:28am BSI: "hate" is still too strong a word for me on the music front, but being in DC when Fugazi first hatched, I gotta say I never got it.... to me they always represented something to GET THROUGH at shows, waiting for something with less whining. An unpopular opinion around here, but eh...
	11:29am dc pat: agreed on U2. I like George's Beatles tunes but spent years as a Paul hater until I found out he played lead guit on Taxman. That blew me away.
	11:29am CheriPi: Cecile! YES on Cat Stevens & YES on U2. AS for the band Yes-I could leave em.
	11:29am Carmichael: George is the man. Remember that the next you hear any kind of intricate Beatle guitar work. You can keep Paul "Mary Had a Little Lamb" McCartney and John "Me mum abandoned me and me auntie she tore up me fucking poems" Lennon.
	11:30am Carmichael: I'm not sure that's entirely true, DC. It could be another of those urban myths. But I know exactly who to ask to clear it up.
	11:31am dc pat: Joe B?
	11:31am Carmichael: Jason, this is great happy music to help shape my vitriol-filled diatribes. Thanks!
	11:32am glenn: and your bird can sing is the beatles best song, as far as i'm concerned. george and paul - double tracked guitar in unison. awesome!
	11:33am Carmichael: No, someone who was in the room. I can't say any more, but the nice man lives nearby and we talk often.
	11:33am Cecile: BSI, I am not a Fugazi fan. I appreciate them. But there's something stern about them that doesn't make me want to meet them halfway.
	11:33am CheriPi: Jason-look what you've done DONE.
	11:35am dc pat: glenn: the more music debates I have with friends the more it becomes apparent that the Kinks are truly #1. I dig Fugazi, but not all their albums. I like Ian but he is hard to take. Like Rollins. They both grew up in my neighborhood so I guess we're kind of proud of them in these parts...
	11:37am CheriPi: Alec Mackaye had the golden voice, I cringe every time I hear Ian sing.
	11:38am still b/p: Hate.....KISS. Well, it's at least scowly distaste, and bafflement at the huge and long success.
	11:38am BSI: As far as the funkier DC punk hybrid sound goes, Beefeater knocked the shit outta Fugazi. I always dug the more stripped down dc hardcore sound. Definitely more Christ on a Crutch than Fugazi. ...
	11:39am Ike: Uh oh. Somebody stop me before I contribute to this discussion. Nifty show Jason!
	11:39am CheriPi: I'm going to lunch but will read the rest of these comments later.
	11:39am dc pat: Definitely agree on Alec. He's a great guy.
	11:40am dc pat: Lay it on us Ike. I know you have a million of 'em.
	11:41am BSI: re: alec, Ignition was fun to catch live, for sure.
	11:41am glenn: the kinks are indeed the best band ever. i'm glad you remembered that discussion.
	11:42am Cecile: Well, hate bail on this, but I'm sure it will be around for me later. and will probably spill into Joe's show....
	11:43am Ike: DCP: But... but... I'm trying to leave hate and negativity behind and move into the golden age of IKE LOVE and hugs and teddy bears and hearts and rainbows! Sigh.
	11:44am BSI: god I hate teddy bears.
	11:45am glenn: who's tommy hoehn? i thought this was a big star or alex chilton song i'd never heard.
	11:46am Joan Jett: I hate myself fir loving you!
	11:46am Ike: BTW, BSI, did you notice you got some airplay on Bill Mac's show a few nights ago? Just a short one....
	11:46am dc pat: so Charmichael, spill the beans man...
	11:46am glenn: d.c. pat., have you read any of george p. pelecanos' stuff? i really like him. he's a music nerd too.
	11:46am Carmichael: Ike, please go into punctuation monitoring mode. That's you at your finest.
	11:47am still b/p: Enjoy Kinks, but they could still cue a wince -- the lyrics for Celluloid Heroes is jus' awful.
	11:48am BSI: Ike: Thanks, I just spotted that. The infection is spreading! Whee!
	11:48am annie: this has got to be one of the most enjoyable shows/comments combination i've ever heard/seen
	11:49am Carmichael: The e-mail has been sent, DC. I should get a brief yet snappy answer soon, hopefully. And you're right about the Kinks. The whole Schoolboys in Disgrace/Soap Opera/Sleepwalker phase was a landmark music time for me.
	11:51am dc pat: glenn: have not, thanks for the tip. Carm: dang, you know somebody in-the-know, eh?
	11:52am dc pat: annie: certainly cheered me up after a bad morning.
	11:52am glenn: soap opera IS a good record. listen again.
	11:53am Cecile: dcp, I have to agree with glenn, Pelecanos is pretty great. Unlike Soap Opera. :D :D :
	11:55am glenn: yeah yeah. it's never going to stop snowing in minneapolis.
	11:55am Cecile: Sublime are nice guys. But I'm ain't no fortuneteller.
	11:57am mark: liked that OTR 4-track version btw
	11:58am still b/p: As long as we heard a little sitar in Bazmi track, I'll share something just found today in a piece on Ami Dang. In the great, thriving tradition of ass-hat supposition and addled omniscience, the writer/reviewer said of the sitar (just a couple of years ago!): "its über-twang alone sounds to belong on another planet to an American." Yah, it does, oh, yahhh!
	11:59am Carmichael: DC, I just created a hotmail address. clamdestine@hotmail.com Send me a quick note.
	12:00pm Mike East: Really enjoying this show. The comments discussion is riveting as well, but I'm too busy to give my 2 cents. Why can't we all just get paid to listen to and talk about music?

Talk's Cheap with Jason Sigal: Playlist from January 13, 2011

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January 13, 2011: The Dream Police! World's Fair Use Day!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Cheap Trick	The Dream Police "The Dream Police" by "Cheap Trick"					0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Royal Trux	Another Year "Another Year" by "Royal Trux"	Accelerator	Drag City			0:03:39 (Pop-up)
Alkibar Gignor	Rehearsal "Rehearsal" by "Alkibar Gignor"	Yeti Magazine #10	Yeti		*	0:07:47 (Pop-up)
Blue Sausage Infant	Flight of the Solstice Queens	Flight of the Solstice Queens	Zeromoon		*	0:14:02 (Pop-up)
James Ferraro	Sounds From The Cam 1: Metal Cop In Acid Rain/Body Of The Underground	KFC City 3099: Pt. 1 Toxic Spill	New Age Tapes			0:20:03 (Pop-up)
Negativland	It's All In Your Head (Part 2)	Live at the Bagdad Theater	KBOO	Free Music Archive		0:29:33 (Pop-up)
Satanicpornoculshop	Saddam Fed Birds While Jailed					0:34:40 (Pop-up)
People Like Us	Daphne Reggae Lady					0:37:09 (Pop-up)
DJ /rupture	Taqasim "Taqasim" by "DJ /rupture"	Special Gunpowder	Tigerbeat6			0:40:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Glenny 417	"Glenny 417"					0:43:19 (Pop-up)
Mattisson	Oval "Oval" by "Mattisson"					0:52:27 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Beatstar	"Beatstar"					0:59:26 (Pop-up)
Lord Tang	I Heard it Through The Tang					0:59:35 (Pop-up)
Dada swing v/s Okapi	Ru-dicolous "Ru-dicolous" by "Dada swing v/s Okapi"	Bah!	Comfort Stand	Free Music Archive		1:04:10 (Pop-up)
Karbala Bukan Fatamorgana	Bahtera Jelang Karam	Pop is Dead: Indonesian Netlabel Mixtape (V/A)	Mindblasting	Free Music Archive	*	1:07:18 (Pop-up)
Dragan Espenschied	P2P "P2P" by "Dragan Espenschied"	Education of the Noobz 1	UpitUp	Free Music Archive	*	1:13:21 (Pop-up)
Oneida	Happy New Year (live at WFMU 2006)	Live on Terre T's Cherry Blossom Clinic		Scott Williams welcomes classic Oneida wfmu sessions to the FMA		1:21:16 (Pop-up)
Iva Nova	Live at the OCCII trk2 "Live at the OCCII trk2" by "Iva Nova"	Live at the OCCII	Noise Problems	Free Music Archive		1:24:04 (Pop-up)
The Starry Tides	Noticeably Ill (feat. Mark Carpenter)	One Lit Window EP		Free Music Archive	*	1:28:25 (Pop-up)
Charles Péguri	Piétro "Piétro" by "Charles Péguri"		Excavated Shellac	Free Music Archive		1:29:14 (Pop-up)
Raya Brass Band	(exc) "(exc)" by "Raya Brass Band"	live at the 2009 Golden Festival		Free Music Archive Golden Festival 2011 is this weekend!		1:32:22 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Beatstar	My Way "My Way" by "Beatstar"					1:42:29 (Pop-up)
Swell Maps	New York "New York" by "Swell Maps"	Jane From Occupied Europe	Secretly Canadian	3 classic WFMU sessions from the late great Nikki Sudden (Swell Maps, The Jacobites) now archived in hi-fi. Plus, an Oneida tribute. Feature by Mike L		1:44:03 (Pop-up)
The Joe Herbert Band	First Date "First Date" by "The Joe Herbert Band"	Don't Wanna Be a Preppy 7''	Last Laugh		*	1:45:49 (Pop-up)
Kraus	Pudding Batter "Pudding Batter" by "Kraus"	Faster Than the Speed of Time	Dilettante Courtoisie		*	1:48:08 (Pop-up)
Times New Viking	No Room To Live "No Room To Live" by "Times New Viking"	No Room To Live 7''			*	1:50:33 (Pop-up)
Gorilla Angreb	M/S Tampa "M/S Tampa" by "Gorilla Angreb"	Bedre Tider EP	Feral Ward			1:52:18 (Pop-up)
Tripod Jimmie	Joe Granville "Joe Granville" by "Tripod Jimmie"	Long Walk Off A Short Pier		thanks Thomas!		1:55:11 (Pop-up)
Pissed Jeans	L Word "L Word" by "Pissed Jeans"	Your Life Is Worth Pissed Jeans 7"	Sub Pop		*	1:59:26 (Pop-up)
Movie Star Junkies	Odyssey of Jason	In a Night Like This 10''	Kill Shaman		*	2:05:54 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Aksak Maboul	"Aksak Maboul"					2:08:58 (Pop-up)
Sublime	Lincoln highway dub "Lincoln highway dub" by "Sublime"	Robbin' The Hood				2:18:52 (Pop-up)
Julian Lynch	Travelers "Travelers" by "Julian Lynch"	Mare	OESB			2:19:20 (Pop-up)
Ami Dang	A Strange Community "A Strange Community" by "Ami Dang"	Hukam	Ehse	produced by Ilya Monosov	*	2:22:49 (Pop-up)
Sam Chege's Ultra-Benga	Nduraga na Maithori (A Life of Tears)	Kickin' Kikuyu Style	Original Music			2:27:03 (Pop-up)
Fruko y Sus Tesos	El Muerto Vivo "El Muerto Vivo" by "Fruko y Sus Tesos"	Rebelion Tropical - The Very Best of Fruko & Joe Arroyo	Nascente		*	2:31:31 (Pop-up)
Janka Nabay	Good Governance "Good Governance" by "Janka Nabay"	Bubu King EP	True Panther Sounds			2:35:05 (Pop-up)
Old Time Relijun	Sabertooth Tyger (original 4-track version)	Songbook Volume One	Northern-Spy Records		*	2:40:26 (Pop-up)
Tommy Hoehn	She Might Look My Way	Spacebreak	Power Play			2:42:18 (Pop-up)
Nisar Bazmi	Aesi Chal Main "Aesi Chal Main" by "Nisar Bazmi"	Pakistan Folk and Pop Instrumentals 1966-1976	Sublime Frequencies		*	2:44:42 (Pop-up)
Sublime	Work That We Do "Work That We Do" by "Sublime"	Robbin' The Hood				2:49:16 (Pop-up)
Glen Adams	She's So Fine "She's So Fine" by "Glen Adams"	7''	Pressure Sounds		*	2:50:22 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:03am Bad Ronald: Good morning. Sweet opener Jason!
	9:04am annie: aahhllrighty then!!
	9:04am jason: 'mornin BR!
	9:05am CheriPi: Good morning!
	9:06am jason: hey annie, cheripi, happy world's fair use day to all!
	9:13am Bad Ronald: Ha I was just thinking about Rick's white chainsaw on the cover. Thanks for posting the pic! Happy World's Fair Use Day too you as well!
	9:13am still b/p: The narrated video on the Fair Use Day site played while stream's separate player as accompaniment. Better than fair...Perfect! http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/2833
	9:15am still b/p: whups. -- that is, separate player with Alkibar track continuing as accompaniment..
	9:15am annie: and, btw, RIP dave nelson
	9:16am annie: that's Uncle dave to Nelson
	9:23am BSI: just joined the party, evidently a song or two late!
	9:24am schizflow: this bass line is like the king tubby sample in that panda bear live track
	9:24am Metal Cop: hey man pass the glue
	9:29am schizflow: here's the sample http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGV7lcujksM
	9:32am Ruaraidh: Fine Ferraro blurt sounding good from Scotland Jason! Hope yr well
	9:42am jason: thank you schizflow, i didnt know panda bear sampled king tubby hey Ruaraidh! thanks for tunin' in from Scotland, hope to see you back here soon
	9:45am dc pat: boy am I glad I missed Talk's Cheap Trick..
	9:47am john: Crosly Bendix!
	9:51am Richard from Venezuela: Good morning Jason and all the listeners
	9:55am jason: hey Richard! Don't worry DC Pat
	9:58am dc pat: yeah, I chalked it up to temporary insanity..
	10:02am schizflow: great stuff, gotta go will listen to the rest later. and thanks for the info about world fair use day. btw the tubby sample is only on the live versions of alsatian darn, not the 7"
	10:05am reid: heard it thru the tang was delicious!
	10:27am ?: CHEAP TRICK!
	10:28am Cecile: that was me. Ugh.
	10:28am Cecile: Jason, you should do a remix contest for Fair Use Day next year.
	10:30am jason: good idea Cecile! but also...tricky. Cheap Tricky
	10:33am Cecile: Remix Tricky.
	10:34am jason: virtual tour of the 2011 Golden Festival's venue, the Grand Prospect Hall: http://www.grandprospect.com/vtour3/Website%20Assets/vtour3.shtml
	10:36am Cecile: If the weather isn't terrible, would the Golden Festival be a good time to visit New York?
	10:41am Richard from Venezuela: The work of Les Petits Chanteurs de Montigny on Free Music Archive. A magic collection of choral tunes. Highly recommended. http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Les_Petits_Chanteurs_de_Montigny/Compilation_classique/
	10:43am CheriPi: Swell Maps!
	10:44am glenn: did tom of finland take that cheap trick photo?
	10:44am CheriPi: I've saved the Dream police pic in my Halloween costumes idea file.
	10:46am glenn: who will you be, cheri?
	10:46am Cecile: If there was no Cheap Trick, Tom of Finland would have had to invent them.
	10:48am Carmichael: Good morning Jason and cheap talkers. Boy, what a photo to greet me this morning.
	10:48am glenn: on the other hand, if there was no tom of finland, cheap trick would have had to invent him. (it could happen)
	10:50am Cecile: my brain just exploded. Speaking of exploding brain, Jason do you know there is now a second volume of Tonetta songs that just came out?
	10:51am Carmichael: This dude knows how to fuzz out.
	10:54am CheriPi: Bun E. Carlos-becasue he looks the most cop-like and I'd want to be taken very seriously.
	10:55am dc pat: I think if Cheap Trick and Gorilla Angreb got in a fight, Gorilla would mop the floor with those motherfuckers
	10:56am dc pat: ..and if Tripod Jimmie just looked at Cheap Trick, they'd melt.
	10:56am jason: haha hey DC Pat, whaddayagotagainst cheap trick?
	10:58am Cecile: Yeah. I mean, they're Steve Albini's favorite band. I love them myself, great live band. Tripod Jimmie are pretty damn great, though.
	10:58am Cecile: I have all their releases.
	10:59am still b/p: OK, for Halloween, could you stage a period production gang fight between the Cheapies as pictured and the Bee Gees and Frampton in their Stigwood Sgt. Pepper get-ups? ..be kind of a sub-text tribute nod to The Warriors and Clockwork Orange at the same time.
	11:01am dc pat: I dunno, maybe cuz their music drives me up the fekkin wall? Actually I don't care that much, just grumpy today... But, where'd you get that about Albini, Cecile? Not that I would ever question your rawk knowledge (I'm serious) but never heard that one..
	11:02am jason: what is the most hated band amongst wfmu listeners?
	11:03am Cecile: still b/p - I LOVE IT. He's talked about how great they are, covered "he's a whore" and produced some of their later albums. And said, pretty much they are one of his favorite bands.
	11:04am dc pat: oh
	11:04am Cecile: For me? Probably Dream Theater or Rush.
	11:04am CheriPi: she looSpeaking of Pissed Jeans-being a Sam Kinison Woman for Halloween crossed my mind. What would like? Hmmmmmmm
	11:05am dc pat: Pissed Jeans vs Cheap Trick: 5 million and 6 to nill
	11:06am BSI: Jason: most hated? egad, that's a tough one. I dislike a lot of stuff but "hate"... this will require some brain......
	11:06am glenn: it's a tossup - rush, styx, foreigner, journey. as a side note, have you ever noticed that all bands using place names suck? i.e. boston, chicago, kansas.
	11:06am CheriPi: Sorry for my typo above-Besides the Beatles-my most hated bands are the Eagles & Fleetwood Mac. A guy got kicked out of Iron Maiden for listening to the Eagles.
	11:07am dc pat: for me it's any group that I don't care for but has a song that gets stuck in my head, like DREAM POLICE!! AAAAHAHHHHHH!! It's not that I loath them but the song-in-head really annoys me.
	11:07am Joe B: I'll take Fleetwood Mac over Iron Maiden
	11:07am Cecile: No, not Rush. Styx or Journey. I respect Rush too much. The Eagles make me kind of angry. They were the kind of rich hippies I hated in the 70s.
	11:08am glenn: cheri, there are really two fleetwood macs. when peter green was in the band, they were great.
	11:08am Cecile: Joe B, I'm with you. Except for that first Maiden album. It was like Motorhead with a good guitarist. I like both phases of Mac, Glenn, but always prefer the later era when Lindsay's singing and playing.
	11:09am CheriPi: I Hate Rush-and that liberal Neil Young.
	11:09am Gene: Tripod Jimmie reminded me a lot Ted Milton's Blurt.. Cool :)
	11:09am Cecile: Not a good guitarist, I mean two shredding metal guitarists. But still great.
	11:10am glenn: or maybe i should say when fleetwood mac was peter green's group, they were great. i don't hate rumours era f.m. either, but prefer the former.
	11:10am Cecile: I will have to agree to disagree with you about Neil. And Neil is actually more liberatarian than liberal.
	11:11am Joe B: Movie Star Junkies live set - April 21, 2009. Thanks for the plug!
	11:11am Cecile: Long Walk is a fantastic album. Can I request Autumn Leaves next week, Jason?
	11:11am dc pat: whoa CheriPi. Mostly I can agree w/ what folks are saying but the Beatles and Neil Young?? I can't get behind that..
	11:11am glenn: neil is just neil. the man is a force of nature, plain and simple.
	11:12am dc pat: right on glenn.
	11:12am Cecile: I didn't like the Beatles when the only songs I heard were their worst over and over. As I got older, I wouldn't say I was a Beatlemaniac, but Rubber Soul and the White Album are spotless.
	11:13am Cecile: To paraphase Lady Sovereign, he's great at being Neil Young.
	11:14am dc pat: well you also have to break 'em up into Paul vs John.
	11:14am CheriPi: Lady Sov's last album was SOOOO BAD I sold it back.
	11:15am Cecile: Some of Paul's are my favorite songs. And I'm a big Ringo fan. Bless his heart. But yeah.
	11:17am glenn: go see ringo's all starr band if you can. it is way fun.
	11:17am CheriPi: My boyfriend tortures me w/ Rush & Neil Young when we're in his car.
	11:18am glenn: that's just payback for all those chick flicks you make him watch with you. maybe you just hate canada, cheri.
	11:19am Cecile: No way, Glenn. She likes Voivod!
	11:20am dc pat: Ringo rules. Generally I prefer John but can't get over Paul's bass/guitar playing and general instrumentation. Who's the other guy again?
	11:20am Thomas: hey, you're welcome!
	11:22am Cecile: George. The one who wrote the brilliant "Taxman"?
	11:22am john: George, the one with the arguable best solo career
	11:22am dc pat: ok, time to have things thrown at my head but, generally I appreciate their music and love the early albums but over-all I think the Stones are the most overrated group on Earth. Bye!....
	11:23am CheriPi: It is definitely payback for making him Listen to Wanda Jackson's cover of "Fever." I do love Canada though-and I will defend their bands to the death-SNFU, VOIVOD!, Glenn Gould-but I draw the line at RUSH.
	11:24am BSI: DHOLI!!!!!!!!!!!
	11:24am Cecile: I think I would enjoy talking to Rush before a show, having a Molson's with them. But I would jet before they started playing any music.
	11:24am Joe B: re George's solo career - you wouldn't be saying that if you made the same mistake I did of buying the box set Dark Horse Years. some pretty awful stuff there covering about 10 years 76-86?
	11:24am john: Just got this Ami Dang album yesterday, it is so good
	11:26am glenn: the doc. about rush is supposed to be very entertaining. as far as sir paul goes, he's a major league asshole, but he's a fantastic bass player.
	11:27am Cecile: Oh, I know George's solo career is problematic. I grew up in the 70s! But his Beatles songs are great. I actually heard part of 33 1/3 in a store the other week, and went to the clerk, "this is what we were so upset about? This sounds pretty decent." OH. I know what artist I really, really hate. Cat Stevens. And the most overrated group IMO is U2. Their first record and a half were great, after that, oy?!?!?!
	11:27am glenn: hey, target is finally coming to canada. no more retail deprivation for soviet canuckistan.
	11:28am john: long live the Kinks!
	11:28am CheriPi: I do a really good impression of Getty talking to Neil during long drawn out space jams asking him to cover him for a bathrom break- It drives the man nuts. "Neil-do you still have that cup from lunch w/ you?...just give me 2 minutes"
	11:28am BSI: "hate" is still too strong a word for me on the music front, but being in DC when Fugazi first hatched, I gotta say I never got it.... to me they always represented something to GET THROUGH at shows, waiting for something with less whining. An unpopular opinion around here, but eh...
	11:29am dc pat: agreed on U2. I like George's Beatles tunes but spent years as a Paul hater until I found out he played lead guit on Taxman. That blew me away.
	11:29am CheriPi: Cecile! YES on Cat Stevens & YES on U2. AS for the band Yes-I could leave em.
	11:29am Carmichael: George is the man. Remember that the next you hear any kind of intricate Beatle guitar work. You can keep Paul "Mary Had a Little Lamb" McCartney and John "Me mum abandoned me and me auntie she tore up me fucking poems" Lennon.
	11:30am Carmichael: I'm not sure that's entirely true, DC. It could be another of those urban myths. But I know exactly who to ask to clear it up.
	11:31am dc pat: Joe B?
	11:31am Carmichael: Jason, this is great happy music to help shape my vitriol-filled diatribes. Thanks!
	11:32am glenn: and your bird can sing is the beatles best song, as far as i'm concerned. george and paul - double tracked guitar in unison. awesome!
	11:33am Carmichael: No, someone who was in the room. I can't say any more, but the nice man lives nearby and we talk often.
	11:33am Cecile: BSI, I am not a Fugazi fan. I appreciate them. But there's something stern about them that doesn't make me want to meet them halfway.
	11:33am CheriPi: Jason-look what you've done DONE.
	11:35am dc pat: glenn: the more music debates I have with friends the more it becomes apparent that the Kinks are truly #1. I dig Fugazi, but not all their albums. I like Ian but he is hard to take. Like Rollins. They both grew up in my neighborhood so I guess we're kind of proud of them in these parts...
	11:37am CheriPi: Alec Mackaye had the golden voice, I cringe every time I hear Ian sing.
	11:38am still b/p: Hate.....KISS. Well, it's at least scowly distaste, and bafflement at the huge and long success.
	11:38am BSI: As far as the funkier DC punk hybrid sound goes, Beefeater knocked the shit outta Fugazi. I always dug the more stripped down dc hardcore sound. Definitely more Christ on a Crutch than Fugazi. ...
	11:39am Ike: Uh oh. Somebody stop me before I contribute to this discussion. Nifty show Jason!
	11:39am CheriPi: I'm going to lunch but will read the rest of these comments later.
	11:39am dc pat: Definitely agree on Alec. He's a great guy.
	11:40am dc pat: Lay it on us Ike. I know you have a million of 'em.
	11:41am BSI: re: alec, Ignition was fun to catch live, for sure.
	11:41am glenn: the kinks are indeed the best band ever. i'm glad you remembered that discussion.
	11:42am Cecile: Well, hate bail on this, but I'm sure it will be around for me later. and will probably spill into Joe's show....
	11:43am Ike: DCP: But... but... I'm trying to leave hate and negativity behind and move into the golden age of IKE LOVE and hugs and teddy bears and hearts and rainbows! Sigh.
	11:44am BSI: god I hate teddy bears.
	11:45am glenn: who's tommy hoehn? i thought this was a big star or alex chilton song i'd never heard.
	11:46am Joan Jett: I hate myself fir loving you!
	11:46am Ike: BTW, BSI, did you notice you got some airplay on Bill Mac's show a few nights ago? Just a short one....
	11:46am dc pat: so Charmichael, spill the beans man...
	11:46am glenn: d.c. pat., have you read any of george p. pelecanos' stuff? i really like him. he's a music nerd too.
	11:46am Carmichael: Ike, please go into punctuation monitoring mode. That's you at your finest.
	11:47am still b/p: Enjoy Kinks, but they could still cue a wince -- the lyrics for Celluloid Heroes is jus' awful.
	11:48am BSI: Ike: Thanks, I just spotted that. The infection is spreading! Whee!
	11:48am annie: this has got to be one of the most enjoyable shows/comments combination i've ever heard/seen
	11:49am Carmichael: The e-mail has been sent, DC. I should get a brief yet snappy answer soon, hopefully. And you're right about the Kinks. The whole Schoolboys in Disgrace/Soap Opera/Sleepwalker phase was a landmark music time for me.
	11:51am dc pat: glenn: have not, thanks for the tip. Carm: dang, you know somebody in-the-know, eh?
	11:52am dc pat: annie: certainly cheered me up after a bad morning.
	11:52am glenn: soap opera IS a good record. listen again.
	11:53am Cecile: dcp, I have to agree with glenn, Pelecanos is pretty great. Unlike Soap Opera. :D :D :
	11:55am glenn: yeah yeah. it's never going to stop snowing in minneapolis.
	11:55am Cecile: Sublime are nice guys. But I'm ain't no fortuneteller.
	11:57am mark: liked that OTR 4-track version btw
	11:58am still b/p: As long as we heard a little sitar in Bazmi track, I'll share something just found today in a piece on Ami Dang. In the great, thriving tradition of ass-hat supposition and addled omniscience, the writer/reviewer said of the sitar (just a couple of years ago!): "its über-twang alone sounds to belong on another planet to an American." Yah, it does, oh, yahhh!
	11:59am Carmichael: DC, I just created a hotmail address. clamdestine@hotmail.com Send me a quick note.
	12:00pm Mike East: Really enjoying this show. The comments discussion is riveting as well, but I'm too busy to give my 2 cents. Why can't we all just get paid to listen to and talk about music?

Talk's Cheap with Jason Sigal: Playlist from January 13, 2011

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