WFMU: Summer Camp: Playlist from February 8, 2025

Listener comments!
	♥ 10:28am Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	10:56am Arvo: 🤠
	♥ 11:01am WR: Arvo summer camp with Austin streaming? Alright!
	♥ 11:02am Austin Rich: We do what we can for those in need of Saturday Morning Relief!
	♥ 11:04am Arvo Zylo: ↳ WR @11:01 Thanks for coming by! Good to be here!
	♥ 11:05am Krys O.: Hello!
	♥ 11:06am Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @11:05 Always a treat to have you in the Digital Salon!
	♥ 11:07am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @11:05 Hi!
	♥ 11:08am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "Concerto In D" by "Collegium Musicum" Wm. Berger hipped me to this track...
	♥ 11:10am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:08 It was new to me. Thanks!
	11:17am northguineahills: morning arvo and friends!
	♥ 11:17am Krys O.: I have some orchestral works coming up on the Free-Form Roller Coaster after this. Radio serendipity is nice.
	♥ 11:18am Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 Greetings! Nice to see you in the Digital Salon!
	♥ 11:18am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 TOP O' TH' MORNIN'!
	♥ 11:19am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @11:17 Everything's coming up MILLHOUSE!
	♥ 11:21am Austin Rich: The one thing I do miss about doing the show in the studio, live, is that you could actually listen to the DJ before you, and sync up the beginning of your show, much more easily, than you can remotely. You can still do it, but there's a flexibility to the studio that makes it much easier.
	♥ 11:23am Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "All The Things" by "Chrysta Bell & David Lynch" This song is saying things I didn't know I was trying to say.
	♥ 11:25am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:21 I stopped trying to match what the previous DJ was doing because I'd be spending like 20 hours a week preparing sets and didn't want to be distracted. This would depend somewhat if i were at WZRD or WLUW. Sometimes I would follow a goth show on WLUW, and sometimes I'd talk to the DJ at WZRD and pull from the catalog based on their set, but generally, I like to try to be in the pilot seat.
	♥ 11:25am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:23 Yeah, it is also serendipitous for me in more ways than one.
	♥ 11:28am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:25 There's always a number of factors that can make it not possible. But I think it was easier in the studio, in certain ways. You could get a sense of the show, talk to the DJ, and you already had to cue up your first track. You could change it up and slip in something else, to link from them to you. I always appreciated the challenge.
	♥ 11:28am Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Creepy Love" by "Them Are Us Too" I'm a sucker for these kinds of basslines.
	♥ 11:30am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:28 I did radio for 20+ hours during a blizzard once, and it reminded me of how I thought about radio before I did radio. I thought there was a team of DJs with big meetings and think tank vibes, and sort of couldn't help but feel as if they were all one polycephalic beast.
	11:31am northguineahills: sort of like whem djing at a club, the previous dj might be in totally different aural view then myself, but if i can listen to the dj as they're playing, i can make a seamless transition. the only radio i've done is wavefarm (and it's antecedent, free10point9), and pirate radio.
	♥ 11:33am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:31 Yeah, in a bar or a club, I've definitely followed from Nine Inch Nails to Shangri-Las in a sort of exquisite corpse fashion within three songs and tried to make it work...
	♥ 11:33am Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @11:31 I haven't DJed in clubs much, but I feel like it's the same. I was often DJing with a partner in situations like that, so we could relieve each other, give each other breaks, etc. So it was easier for us to collaborate on transitions. But it's sort of similar, I suspect.
	♥ 11:35am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:30 I used to love picking up coverage shifts in the winter, and make a day out of doing radio. I never did more than eight hours in a row, and I would often cheat, playing an hour long track in the middle to go and get lunch. But those days are magical, just you and the DJ booth. I would have to prepare a lot more to do an 8 hour show again. I did a six hour show with das, Ninah and univac a year ago. But with that many others, it's very easy.
	♥ 11:37am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:35 I was literally an insomniac. I got home at 6am from doing radio, checked my email to find that the station would be closed after 4pm due to a blizzard, emailed the station manager, grabbed some records, and went back. Those sorts of things rarely happen on purpose.
	11:38am northguineahills: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:33 yeah, i have had the guy before me do hard techno, so i eased into minimal techno, to drum&bass w/philip glass to landing in british folk rock. (but places in nyc would let you do that)
	♥ 11:39am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:35 My show started at midnight, and due to high turnover, I'd be there until 6am regularly.
	11:39am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Sehnsuchtsvoll (Reverso)" by "Alva Noto" carsten nicolai! i have his book about moire patterns (entitled, "moire")
	♥ 11:40am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:39 So often the case with those late-night shifts. I would sometimes arrive to an empty station - the person before forgot to show up - and then have to cover the gent after me, when I was on in the middle of the night. I'm glad I don't do that anymore, but there was something nice about having the station to yourself.
	♥ 11:40am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:38 DJing in NYC is probably a whole 'nother thing! I didn't DJ to huge crowds, but I've done goth nights, soul nights, freeform nights, etc.
	♥ 11:44am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:39 I had no idea about the book!
	11:46am northguineahills: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:40 i did goth and 'old wave' back in uni and after in gainesville (fl), but outside of a few one-off parties, it was hard to find a night for exclusively that in nyc.
	♥ 11:50am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:46 I co-hosted a weekly "freeform DJ night" at a bar with two floors. That place also had goth nights, and I was invited sometimes to DJ those. I also did booking for a different bar, and booked DIY parties with friends. It was never prime time, but there were often enough people for it to be fun.
	♥ 11:52am Austin Rich: It would be nice to find the club that actually catered to all the different DJ nights every community needs. I still don't feel like there are any places in my town where I could hang out and really love the music they play. We've got cover bands and internet jukeboxes. The only time I've gone out in the last five years, I had to drive to other cities. There's just nothing to do here.
	♥ 11:54am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:52 I can relate to that sense of stagnation. I like cities because even if I think most of what is happening is weak, there is enough movement to prevent stagnation. The nice thing about small towns, sometimes, is that everyone from every scene will show up to certain things, just because there's not much happening. It doesn't always work out that way, though.
	♥ 11:54am Austin Rich: I guess we announced this last show, so we should mention it again here: The Second Saturday of every month here in "Summer Camp" will be hosted by Arvo Zylo. This is the first show in that series!
	♥ 11:55am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:54 Yay!
	♥ 11:55am Austin Rich: Those weeks will now be called: "MTVessel Plasma Drive-In Theater with Arvo Zylo."
	♥ 11:59am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: ""We're Not Candy"" by "Kids Corner" Busta Rhymes made a nice chorus from this PSA.
	♥ 12:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: ""We're Not Candy"" by "Kids Corner" "We're Not Candy." Tell me about it! She's that delightful redhead that I've been dreaming about...
	♥ 12:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Cukor Bila Smerť (lit. "Sugar — White Death") was... This reminds me of that punk band from southern California, "Ashtray," which titled one of their albums, "White Sugar Is The Devil."
	♥ 12:05pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:04 Not ringing a bell! I might have to look into it.
	♥ 12:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:05 They named themselves after the famous "Ashtray" punk house. They were pretty good for drinking songs about punk lifestyle. They stayed with me during one of their tours, but the commemorative ashtray they gave me was broken by our cat at the time.
	♥ 12:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:06 Sugar is pretty harmful long term! I have a friend who calls it a "low key depressant"!
	♥ 12:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:09 I was able to quit smoking a while back, and many of my worse habits are long gone. But eating well is still a big challenge for me. When left on my own I seem to dive into junk food. I have been wanting to improve in that department. It is the last vice that will certainly kill me if I'm not careful.
	♥ 12:14pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:12 Food is a really big deal for me now, for reasons I won't go into, but yeah, if it isn't in the produce section, it is probably poison. That's basically how I look at it. Although I have only recently been able to drink coffee again.
	♥ 12:15pm Arvo Zylo: CONSISTENCY IS THE HOBGOBLIN
	♥ 12:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:14 We subscribe to a farm CSA, so we do get regular fresh vegetables from their. Marla is a much better cook and has a much better diet than me. I want to get better but I have a terrible mind for what I should do, and strong impulses toward things I shouldn't.
	12:16pm northguineahills: ↳ Austin Rich @11:52 well, i'm now in a small town in vt, so opportunities here are extremely limited (albeit my housemate is a wfmu gtds dj (wendy de formaggio))
	♥ 12:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @12:16 Thank heaven for streaming radio!
	♥ 12:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @12:16 That's a good connection to have! There are some things that are nice about small towns, but the isolation (from both friends and from culture) is the hardest part, for me. I make up for it by making new radio shows and writing 'zines, but it is still a challenge.
	12:17pm northguineahills: ↳ Austin Rich @12:16 90% of everything i get is csa or the local co-op.
	♥ 12:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:16 A person's mood is often affected by their diet. I'm not a foodie, but honestly, I've fasted and done all sorts of diets. Most food in the USA is poison and it effects the mood.
	♥ 12:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Dry Valley" by "Sun City Girls" Another thing I miss about Portland: Sir Richard Bishop would play pretty often, since he lives there now, and is a rare bookseller on the side, too. He is a kick in the pants, live.
	♥ 12:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:19 I believe it! Although I am not terribly familiar with his solo work.
	♥ 12:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:19 You aren't wrong there. The US diet is pretty shameful. I would say certain junk foods are my last addiction that I'm trying to shake.
	♥ 12:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:19 It's just as weird and diverse as his Sun City Girls stuff. But he mostly plays very strange acoustic guitar sets now, with some occasional exceptions.
	♥ 12:23pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:20 I'm down to only a few salad dressings that I can eat, because they don't have sugar or seed oils in them. Just not that into it to make my own salad dressing. Seed oils are another thing people overlook.
	♥ 12:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:23 Here are my last vices I cannot shake: Cheap Street tacos, gyros from a cart, cheap thai food from a cart, and french fries. I'm sure the things I get are not great for me, but I cannot resist. I've trying to trade out apples from as many of those as I can, but... I am a simple man with strong urges for fried potatoes...
	♥ 12:29pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:26 If apples aren't organic, it's not that great of a trade. Apples and potatoes that aren't organic are the crops that get the most pesticides, as I understand it. Being out and about requires adaptability, as we all know. I had a good amount of junk food as a kid, so I don't care if I never have another French fry again. Tacos and Thai food, on the other hand, will always be tempting. I made a rare appearance at a Thai restaurant yesterday, actually.
	♥ 12:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:29 We get our apples from the same farm we get our CSA, and I just slice 'em and eat 'em, so hopefully that's not terrible for me. I've often struggled with food, and I know it's not gonna be easy. But if I can't move on to a more "roasted vegetables" style diet on my own, I will probably face consequences.
	♥ 12:34pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The battle of Geeheeb" by "Pan.Thy.Monium" You've sold me on this band. A lot of metal is sort of boring to me, but this band really goes to interesting places. Thanks for the tip!
	♥ 12:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "“A New Day For All But The Dead”" by "Kyle MacLac... When I was in High School, so many people were desperate to get this tape! It was as popular among everyone I knew as Nirvana and Public Enemy.
	♥ 12:36pm WR: Hello DJ Gentle Folks types. Popping on to say that I am still listening. Working but listening.
	♥ 12:36pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:34 Glad you dig it!
	♥ 12:37pm Austin Rich: ↳ WR @12:36 We do our best to provide work soundtracks to everyone in the Digital Salon!
	♥ 12:38pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:35 My aunt went crazy about Twin Peaks, but I was a bit young and didn't realize it was anything other than your average soap opera.
	♥ 12:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Razorback Theme" by "Iva Davies" Is this that Australian "wild boar" movie? Is it good? I only know it by reputation, if this is the same thing I'm thinking of...
	♥ 12:38pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ WR @12:36 Thanks for sticking around!
	♥ 12:39pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:38 I bought a compilation of "Halloween Music" on bandcamp, so your guess is as good as mine! Haven't seen the movie.
	♥ 12:39pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:38 I like it, but I think it is easy to get a little "obsessive" about "what is happening" on that show. It's got a nice atmosphere and I think that's what it does well. And the music is VERY good on that show / movie.
	♥ 12:40pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:39 There is an interpretation on youtube that I fully agree with. I like symbolism and deep concepts. It works on many levels, and that's why I like it so much.
	♥ 12:41pm Austin Rich: One of the first things I did when file sharing was possible was download all the Sun City Girls albums I could find. I think I have a good number of them, but there's SO many.
	♥ 12:42pm Arvo Zylo: ICE WATER WITH ICE
	♥ 12:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:40 I _THINK_ I understand what's happening in Twin Peaks, but every once in a while I will remember a scene, and I won't be able to remember how it fits in, and then I start thinking more, and then I'm not so sure I know what's going on... and then I rewatch it. I love to unpack movies and TV, but I also think that can be a bit of a red herring. Certainly there's a lot to think about and consider with something like Twin Peaks, but I wouldn't want to play that game if I didn't also just enjoy watching it on a surface level.
	♥ 12:45pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "Syreny" by "Księżyc" This project is generally more musical, and I'm probably going to play something by them again. Very much worth looking into.
	♥ 12:46pm Austin Rich: For those who are wondering: Arvo Zylo will return the second week of March with another installment of MTVessel Plasma Drive-In Theater. Tune in... won't you?
	♥ 12:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:45 Yeah, This did stand out to me when I was prepping the show. I'll have to listen more.
	♥ 12:48pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:45 I don't want to seem anymore pompous than usual, but I've argued with people, and I enjoy it. The concept of surrealism in general is fun, and the more rewarding art forms for me, specifically because it uses symbols and concepts that IMPLY meaning. I also like that it can come from the artist in a way that the artist interprets differently later, after the work is done.
	♥ 12:49pm Austin Rich: I think the timing on all of this should work out just right, and will should end at the top of the hour! Thanks everyone!
	♥ 12:50pm Arvo Zylo: Thanks everyone for listening! And thanks to Austin for running the show!
	♥ 12:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:48 I do think that using symbolism and surrealism in the right ways is the perfect way to accent your work, and I think Lynch does that very well. I wish more people would use that kind of stuff in more subtle ways, or in ways that don't dominate the film as much. I really like The Coen Brothers for that reason: their films are full of surreal symbols, but they aren't glaring, or obvious. You notice them after the fact, when you're thinking about it as a whole. Antonioni is like that, too. I love his work, and he's subtle, but powerful.
	♥ 12:53pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:51 I still need to traverse Antonioni, and probably much of the Coen Brothers! Shame on me! I'm still watching Dark Shadows... pretty surreal...
	12:53pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Syreny" by "Księżyc" huh, i faved this on fabio's show 9 years ago! thanks arvo and austin, enjoy your weekend!
	♥ 12:54pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @12:53 Nice! It's a recent discovery for me.
	♥ 12:54pm Austin Rich: "Il deserto rosso" and "L'eclisse" are my favorite Antonioni movies, which are just incredible, and poweful. I think "Miller's Crossing" and "Blood Simple" are my fave Coens, but I find stuff to like in all their movies. There's so much Dark Shadows! You'll enjoy that for a while.
	♥ 12:55pm Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @12:53 You too! Thanks for listening.
	♥ 12:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Austin Rich @12:54 Maybe I should also add: I find Frances McDormand in most of their movies, and I love to watch her do anything.
	♥ 12:57pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:54 Definitely on my to do list.
	♥ 12:58pm Krys O.: Thanks for the show!
	♥ 12:59pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @12:58 Thanks all!
	♥ 1:03pm WR: Thank You!

Summer Camp: Playlist from February 8, 2025

An eclectic selection of musical s’mores from around the virtual campfire will be presented each week by a rotating cast of DJs. Summer has never been so campy.

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Hour 1: Septic Electric "Hour 1: Septic Electric"
Collegium Musicum	Concerto In D "Concerto In D" by "Collegium Musicum"		0:00:27 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Powell (w/ London Contemporary Orchestra	23		0:12:57 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Predicate Production Guild	As She Entered		0:19:05 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Chrysta Bell & David Lynch	All The Things		0:21:30 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Gry w/ F.M. Einheit	Unreal "Unreal" by "Gry w/ F.M. Einheit"		0:25:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Them Are Us Too	Creepy Love "Creepy Love" by "Them Are Us Too"		0:27:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
A Flock Of Seagulls	Man Made "Man Made" by "A Flock Of Seagulls"		0:31:53 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Alva Noto	Sehnsuchtsvoll (Reverso)		0:37:39 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Arvo Zylo	dj speaks "dj speaks" by "Arvo Zylo"		0:44:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Arne Nordheim	Warszawa "Warszawa" by "Arne Nordheim"		0:45:34 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Pee Wee Herman	Crack PSA "Crack PSA" by "Pee Wee Herman"		0:57:06 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Kids Corner	"We're Not Candy" ""We're Not Candy"" by "Kids Corner"		0:57:50 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Hour 2: The silence of those who have slipped from our sight, Wraps around us like shadows, hidden from light
Cukor Bila Smert’	Widen Spyt' (Vienna Is Sleeping)		0:59:50 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Cukor Bila Smerť (lit. "Sugar — White Death") was a Ukrainian rock band formed in Kyiv, Ukraine. Active 1988–1993. Recordings from 1988-1993 were reissued on the Shukai label in 2024
Robert Wyatt	5 Black Notes and 1 White Note		1:05:04 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Robert Wyatt's second solo album, "Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard," his first to be completed entirely while he was paralyzed after an accident. This track was based off of a composition by Jacques Offenback; arranged by Robert Wyatt, and featured Brian Eno on guitar, synthesizer, and “anti-jazz ray gun”
Organ of Corti	EA "EA" by "Organ of Corti"		1:10:04 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
digital version of a two tape set from 2023, Organ of Corti is a trio of sound artists comprising of Joachim Nordwall (iDeal Recordings, Skull Defekts), Dan Johansson (Sewer Election, ) and Matthias Gustafsson (Altar Of Flies)
Sun City Girls	Dry Valley "Dry Valley" by "Sun City Girls"	Jukebox Buddha	1:17:30 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Pan.Thy.Monium	The battle of Geeheeb	Khaooohs And Kon-Fus-Ion	1:23:10 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Swedish progressive/avantgarde death metal band from the 1990s, Their lyrics tell the story about the god Raagoonshinnaah.
Kyle MacLachlan (as Dale Cooper)	“A New Day For All But The Dead”	The Tapes of Dale Cooper	1:34:41 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Iva Davies	Razorback Theme "Razorback Theme" by "Iva Davies"		1:36:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
1984 soundtrack by Australian artist "1984 soundtrack by Australian artist"
Music behind DJ: The Unseen	The Vanishing / Eerie Meadows (Opening Titles)		1:39:23 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Księżyc	Syreny "Syreny" by "Księżyc"	Rabbit Eclipse	1:43:17 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
From their bandcamp page: The spirit of Księżyc captures early and late medieval music with a sound rooted in the Slavic tradition combined with elements of minimalism and vocal experiments of the 20th Century.

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Listener comments!
	♥ 10:28am Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	10:56am Arvo: 🤠
	♥ 11:01am WR: Arvo summer camp with Austin streaming? Alright!
	♥ 11:02am Austin Rich: We do what we can for those in need of Saturday Morning Relief!
	♥ 11:04am Arvo Zylo: ↳ WR @11:01 Thanks for coming by! Good to be here!
	♥ 11:05am Krys O.: Hello!
	♥ 11:06am Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @11:05 Always a treat to have you in the Digital Salon!
	♥ 11:07am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @11:05 Hi!
	♥ 11:08am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "Concerto In D" by "Collegium Musicum" Wm. Berger hipped me to this track...
	♥ 11:10am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:08 It was new to me. Thanks!
	11:17am northguineahills: morning arvo and friends!
	♥ 11:17am Krys O.: I have some orchestral works coming up on the Free-Form Roller Coaster after this. Radio serendipity is nice.
	♥ 11:18am Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 Greetings! Nice to see you in the Digital Salon!
	♥ 11:18am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 TOP O' TH' MORNIN'!
	♥ 11:19am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @11:17 Everything's coming up MILLHOUSE!
	♥ 11:21am Austin Rich: The one thing I do miss about doing the show in the studio, live, is that you could actually listen to the DJ before you, and sync up the beginning of your show, much more easily, than you can remotely. You can still do it, but there's a flexibility to the studio that makes it much easier.
	♥ 11:23am Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "All The Things" by "Chrysta Bell & David Lynch" This song is saying things I didn't know I was trying to say.
	♥ 11:25am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:21 I stopped trying to match what the previous DJ was doing because I'd be spending like 20 hours a week preparing sets and didn't want to be distracted. This would depend somewhat if i were at WZRD or WLUW. Sometimes I would follow a goth show on WLUW, and sometimes I'd talk to the DJ at WZRD and pull from the catalog based on their set, but generally, I like to try to be in the pilot seat.
	♥ 11:25am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:23 Yeah, it is also serendipitous for me in more ways than one.
	♥ 11:28am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:25 There's always a number of factors that can make it not possible. But I think it was easier in the studio, in certain ways. You could get a sense of the show, talk to the DJ, and you already had to cue up your first track. You could change it up and slip in something else, to link from them to you. I always appreciated the challenge.
	♥ 11:28am Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Creepy Love" by "Them Are Us Too" I'm a sucker for these kinds of basslines.
	♥ 11:30am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:28 I did radio for 20+ hours during a blizzard once, and it reminded me of how I thought about radio before I did radio. I thought there was a team of DJs with big meetings and think tank vibes, and sort of couldn't help but feel as if they were all one polycephalic beast.
	11:31am northguineahills: sort of like whem djing at a club, the previous dj might be in totally different aural view then myself, but if i can listen to the dj as they're playing, i can make a seamless transition. the only radio i've done is wavefarm (and it's antecedent, free10point9), and pirate radio.
	♥ 11:33am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:31 Yeah, in a bar or a club, I've definitely followed from Nine Inch Nails to Shangri-Las in a sort of exquisite corpse fashion within three songs and tried to make it work...
	♥ 11:33am Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @11:31 I haven't DJed in clubs much, but I feel like it's the same. I was often DJing with a partner in situations like that, so we could relieve each other, give each other breaks, etc. So it was easier for us to collaborate on transitions. But it's sort of similar, I suspect.
	♥ 11:35am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:30 I used to love picking up coverage shifts in the winter, and make a day out of doing radio. I never did more than eight hours in a row, and I would often cheat, playing an hour long track in the middle to go and get lunch. But those days are magical, just you and the DJ booth. I would have to prepare a lot more to do an 8 hour show again. I did a six hour show with das, Ninah and univac a year ago. But with that many others, it's very easy.
	♥ 11:37am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:35 I was literally an insomniac. I got home at 6am from doing radio, checked my email to find that the station would be closed after 4pm due to a blizzard, emailed the station manager, grabbed some records, and went back. Those sorts of things rarely happen on purpose.
	11:38am northguineahills: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:33 yeah, i have had the guy before me do hard techno, so i eased into minimal techno, to drum&bass w/philip glass to landing in british folk rock. (but places in nyc would let you do that)
	♥ 11:39am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:35 My show started at midnight, and due to high turnover, I'd be there until 6am regularly.
	11:39am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Sehnsuchtsvoll (Reverso)" by "Alva Noto" carsten nicolai! i have his book about moire patterns (entitled, "moire")
	♥ 11:40am Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:39 So often the case with those late-night shifts. I would sometimes arrive to an empty station - the person before forgot to show up - and then have to cover the gent after me, when I was on in the middle of the night. I'm glad I don't do that anymore, but there was something nice about having the station to yourself.
	♥ 11:40am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:38 DJing in NYC is probably a whole 'nother thing! I didn't DJ to huge crowds, but I've done goth nights, soul nights, freeform nights, etc.
	♥ 11:44am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:39 I had no idea about the book!
	11:46am northguineahills: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:40 i did goth and 'old wave' back in uni and after in gainesville (fl), but outside of a few one-off parties, it was hard to find a night for exclusively that in nyc.
	♥ 11:50am Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @11:46 I co-hosted a weekly "freeform DJ night" at a bar with two floors. That place also had goth nights, and I was invited sometimes to DJ those. I also did booking for a different bar, and booked DIY parties with friends. It was never prime time, but there were often enough people for it to be fun.
	♥ 11:52am Austin Rich: It would be nice to find the club that actually catered to all the different DJ nights every community needs. I still don't feel like there are any places in my town where I could hang out and really love the music they play. We've got cover bands and internet jukeboxes. The only time I've gone out in the last five years, I had to drive to other cities. There's just nothing to do here.
	♥ 11:54am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:52 I can relate to that sense of stagnation. I like cities because even if I think most of what is happening is weak, there is enough movement to prevent stagnation. The nice thing about small towns, sometimes, is that everyone from every scene will show up to certain things, just because there's not much happening. It doesn't always work out that way, though.
	♥ 11:54am Austin Rich: I guess we announced this last show, so we should mention it again here: The Second Saturday of every month here in "Summer Camp" will be hosted by Arvo Zylo. This is the first show in that series!
	♥ 11:55am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:54 Yay!
	♥ 11:55am Austin Rich: Those weeks will now be called: "MTVessel Plasma Drive-In Theater with Arvo Zylo."
	♥ 11:59am Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: ""We're Not Candy"" by "Kids Corner" Busta Rhymes made a nice chorus from this PSA.
	♥ 12:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: ""We're Not Candy"" by "Kids Corner" "We're Not Candy." Tell me about it! She's that delightful redhead that I've been dreaming about...
	♥ 12:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Cukor Bila Smerť (lit. "Sugar — White Death") was... This reminds me of that punk band from southern California, "Ashtray," which titled one of their albums, "White Sugar Is The Devil."
	♥ 12:05pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:04 Not ringing a bell! I might have to look into it.
	♥ 12:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:05 They named themselves after the famous "Ashtray" punk house. They were pretty good for drinking songs about punk lifestyle. They stayed with me during one of their tours, but the commemorative ashtray they gave me was broken by our cat at the time.
	♥ 12:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:06 Sugar is pretty harmful long term! I have a friend who calls it a "low key depressant"!
	♥ 12:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:09 I was able to quit smoking a while back, and many of my worse habits are long gone. But eating well is still a big challenge for me. When left on my own I seem to dive into junk food. I have been wanting to improve in that department. It is the last vice that will certainly kill me if I'm not careful.
	♥ 12:14pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:12 Food is a really big deal for me now, for reasons I won't go into, but yeah, if it isn't in the produce section, it is probably poison. That's basically how I look at it. Although I have only recently been able to drink coffee again.
	♥ 12:15pm Arvo Zylo: CONSISTENCY IS THE HOBGOBLIN
	♥ 12:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:14 We subscribe to a farm CSA, so we do get regular fresh vegetables from their. Marla is a much better cook and has a much better diet than me. I want to get better but I have a terrible mind for what I should do, and strong impulses toward things I shouldn't.
	12:16pm northguineahills: ↳ Austin Rich @11:52 well, i'm now in a small town in vt, so opportunities here are extremely limited (albeit my housemate is a wfmu gtds dj (wendy de formaggio))
	♥ 12:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @12:16 Thank heaven for streaming radio!
	♥ 12:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @12:16 That's a good connection to have! There are some things that are nice about small towns, but the isolation (from both friends and from culture) is the hardest part, for me. I make up for it by making new radio shows and writing 'zines, but it is still a challenge.
	12:17pm northguineahills: ↳ Austin Rich @12:16 90% of everything i get is csa or the local co-op.
	♥ 12:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:16 A person's mood is often affected by their diet. I'm not a foodie, but honestly, I've fasted and done all sorts of diets. Most food in the USA is poison and it effects the mood.
	♥ 12:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Dry Valley" by "Sun City Girls" Another thing I miss about Portland: Sir Richard Bishop would play pretty often, since he lives there now, and is a rare bookseller on the side, too. He is a kick in the pants, live.
	♥ 12:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:19 I believe it! Although I am not terribly familiar with his solo work.
	♥ 12:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:19 You aren't wrong there. The US diet is pretty shameful. I would say certain junk foods are my last addiction that I'm trying to shake.
	♥ 12:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:19 It's just as weird and diverse as his Sun City Girls stuff. But he mostly plays very strange acoustic guitar sets now, with some occasional exceptions.
	♥ 12:23pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:20 I'm down to only a few salad dressings that I can eat, because they don't have sugar or seed oils in them. Just not that into it to make my own salad dressing. Seed oils are another thing people overlook.
	♥ 12:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:23 Here are my last vices I cannot shake: Cheap Street tacos, gyros from a cart, cheap thai food from a cart, and french fries. I'm sure the things I get are not great for me, but I cannot resist. I've trying to trade out apples from as many of those as I can, but... I am a simple man with strong urges for fried potatoes...
	♥ 12:29pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:26 If apples aren't organic, it's not that great of a trade. Apples and potatoes that aren't organic are the crops that get the most pesticides, as I understand it. Being out and about requires adaptability, as we all know. I had a good amount of junk food as a kid, so I don't care if I never have another French fry again. Tacos and Thai food, on the other hand, will always be tempting. I made a rare appearance at a Thai restaurant yesterday, actually.
	♥ 12:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:29 We get our apples from the same farm we get our CSA, and I just slice 'em and eat 'em, so hopefully that's not terrible for me. I've often struggled with food, and I know it's not gonna be easy. But if I can't move on to a more "roasted vegetables" style diet on my own, I will probably face consequences.
	♥ 12:34pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The battle of Geeheeb" by "Pan.Thy.Monium" You've sold me on this band. A lot of metal is sort of boring to me, but this band really goes to interesting places. Thanks for the tip!
	♥ 12:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "“A New Day For All But The Dead”" by "Kyle MacLac... When I was in High School, so many people were desperate to get this tape! It was as popular among everyone I knew as Nirvana and Public Enemy.
	♥ 12:36pm WR: Hello DJ Gentle Folks types. Popping on to say that I am still listening. Working but listening.
	♥ 12:36pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:34 Glad you dig it!
	♥ 12:37pm Austin Rich: ↳ WR @12:36 We do our best to provide work soundtracks to everyone in the Digital Salon!
	♥ 12:38pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:35 My aunt went crazy about Twin Peaks, but I was a bit young and didn't realize it was anything other than your average soap opera.
	♥ 12:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Razorback Theme" by "Iva Davies" Is this that Australian "wild boar" movie? Is it good? I only know it by reputation, if this is the same thing I'm thinking of...
	♥ 12:38pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ WR @12:36 Thanks for sticking around!
	♥ 12:39pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:38 I bought a compilation of "Halloween Music" on bandcamp, so your guess is as good as mine! Haven't seen the movie.
	♥ 12:39pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:38 I like it, but I think it is easy to get a little "obsessive" about "what is happening" on that show. It's got a nice atmosphere and I think that's what it does well. And the music is VERY good on that show / movie.
	♥ 12:40pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:39 There is an interpretation on youtube that I fully agree with. I like symbolism and deep concepts. It works on many levels, and that's why I like it so much.
	♥ 12:41pm Austin Rich: One of the first things I did when file sharing was possible was download all the Sun City Girls albums I could find. I think I have a good number of them, but there's SO many.
	♥ 12:42pm Arvo Zylo: ICE WATER WITH ICE
	♥ 12:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:40 I _THINK_ I understand what's happening in Twin Peaks, but every once in a while I will remember a scene, and I won't be able to remember how it fits in, and then I start thinking more, and then I'm not so sure I know what's going on... and then I rewatch it. I love to unpack movies and TV, but I also think that can be a bit of a red herring. Certainly there's a lot to think about and consider with something like Twin Peaks, but I wouldn't want to play that game if I didn't also just enjoy watching it on a surface level.
	♥ 12:45pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "Syreny" by "Księżyc" This project is generally more musical, and I'm probably going to play something by them again. Very much worth looking into.
	♥ 12:46pm Austin Rich: For those who are wondering: Arvo Zylo will return the second week of March with another installment of MTVessel Plasma Drive-In Theater. Tune in... won't you?
	♥ 12:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:45 Yeah, This did stand out to me when I was prepping the show. I'll have to listen more.
	♥ 12:48pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:45 I don't want to seem anymore pompous than usual, but I've argued with people, and I enjoy it. The concept of surrealism in general is fun, and the more rewarding art forms for me, specifically because it uses symbols and concepts that IMPLY meaning. I also like that it can come from the artist in a way that the artist interprets differently later, after the work is done.
	♥ 12:49pm Austin Rich: I think the timing on all of this should work out just right, and will should end at the top of the hour! Thanks everyone!
	♥ 12:50pm Arvo Zylo: Thanks everyone for listening! And thanks to Austin for running the show!
	♥ 12:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @12:48 I do think that using symbolism and surrealism in the right ways is the perfect way to accent your work, and I think Lynch does that very well. I wish more people would use that kind of stuff in more subtle ways, or in ways that don't dominate the film as much. I really like The Coen Brothers for that reason: their films are full of surreal symbols, but they aren't glaring, or obvious. You notice them after the fact, when you're thinking about it as a whole. Antonioni is like that, too. I love his work, and he's subtle, but powerful.
	♥ 12:53pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:51 I still need to traverse Antonioni, and probably much of the Coen Brothers! Shame on me! I'm still watching Dark Shadows... pretty surreal...
	12:53pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Syreny" by "Księżyc" huh, i faved this on fabio's show 9 years ago! thanks arvo and austin, enjoy your weekend!
	♥ 12:54pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ northguineahills @12:53 Nice! It's a recent discovery for me.
	♥ 12:54pm Austin Rich: "Il deserto rosso" and "L'eclisse" are my favorite Antonioni movies, which are just incredible, and poweful. I think "Miller's Crossing" and "Blood Simple" are my fave Coens, but I find stuff to like in all their movies. There's so much Dark Shadows! You'll enjoy that for a while.
	♥ 12:55pm Austin Rich: ↳ northguineahills @12:53 You too! Thanks for listening.
	♥ 12:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Austin Rich @12:54 Maybe I should also add: I find Frances McDormand in most of their movies, and I love to watch her do anything.
	♥ 12:57pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @12:54 Definitely on my to do list.
	♥ 12:58pm Krys O.: Thanks for the show!
	♥ 12:59pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @12:58 Thanks all!
	♥ 1:03pm WR: Thank You!

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