WFMU: Blurred and Obscured with Jonathan Herweg: Playlist from June 23, 2024

Listener comments!
	9:59pm headcleaner: Haven't caught you terrestrial since your break yet, Jonathan. Welcome back.
	10:02pm Bill K: ↳ Song: "The Best Form Of Social Organization" by "Noam Ch... Glad he's still with us
	🎙 10:05pm Jherweg: Howdy folks, happy to be here! You and me both BIll K
	10:06pm Carmichael: Heya Jonathan and social engineers.
	🎙 10:06pm Carita: Hey everyone
	10:06pm Blues Mandinga: Ea!
	10:07pm Blues Mandinga: Ea!
	10:08pm Daniel from PEI.: Here.
	10:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There.
	🎙 10:14pm Jherweg: Everywhere!!!
	10:15pm Daniel from PEI.: Gnome
	10:16pm Daniel from PEI.: Nineteen Ninety Noam.
	10:16pm Carmichael: On the range
	10:18pm Daniel from PEI.: Where the bee and the cantaloupe roam
	10:19pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "What We Really Want" by "Noam Chomsky" Viva Chomsky (I can't get behind everything he's said and written -- but overall I'm glad he's still with us, and will miss him when he's gone)
	10:19pm Daniel from PEI.: Beer. Beer, not bee.
	10:19pm DL in LA: Listening live for once! I saw Chomsky speak in Boulder, CO in the 1980s.
	10:21pm Daniel from PEI.: Paused an Eno documentary to come to bed tonight…
	10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: hello all...
	10:22pm Carmichael: Me too, at UCSB IN ‘81.
	10:22pm coelacanth∅: 'evening Jonathan & obscure listeners
	10:22pm joe mulligan: yo yo yo, summer schedule's on and we're still here! keep it up Jonathan! next thon's premium needs to joke on that with a cool T shirt
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: scared me for a moment, with the Noam Chomsky pictures
	10:23pm tom tom the pipers son: hello all...
	🎙 10:25pm Ike: Chomsky is fascinating yet also highly problematic in some ways. He even took a pro-Khmer Rouge stance at one point and as far as I know, he never rescinded it.
	10:26pm Carmichael: This the end, beautiful friend …
	10:29pm Daniel from PEI.: I first heard mention of him for his language learning theory.
	10:30pm headcleaner: ↳ Ike @10:25 Or at least an apologetic / denialist stance on their atrocities. That's part of what attracts people to him (the mystique of someone who takes positions like that -- and never retreats)
	10:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Ike @10:25 Well that's odd. Perhaps a side effect of the U.S. involvement in IndoChina.
	🎙 10:32pm Ken From Hyde Park: Noam Chomsky > Kristi Noem
	🎙 10:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:32 Furthermore: Noam Chomsky > Gnomes > Kristi Noem
	10:33pm Chris: Listening in Warsaw watching the sun come up - actually that starts around 3:30. Back to the states today after a whirlwind week driving the entire country. Fine until stricken with some kinda flu three days ago. Absolute hell. Anyway, nice to hear you while I suffer! Chris in Philly
	10:34pm Carmichael: People like to see the world in black and white, with easy answers to right and wrong.
	10:34pm headcleaner: He's not a talking head, but it's not like he's banned from MSM. He was all over TV news long before many of us were politically conscious, has been interviewed by the NYT recently, etc.
	10:34pm pp: The WFMU program Belly of the Beast with Stefan regularly played long Chomsky excerpts. Awesome.
	10:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ headcleaner @10:30 i don't think that's true about mystique. that language is innate being a central tenet to his philosophy is what attracted me...anyway
	10:35pm headcleaner: ↳ pp @10:34 His voice is in itself a performance -- that will be heard for ages
	10:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ headcleaner @10:34 on you tube a debate between him and william f buckley on vietnam in 1969 . with buckley you can see origins of foxnews
	10:38pm Dean: When we had our first child in 2006, we hired a nanny who was also working for Noam Chomsky's son, caring for Noam's grandson. We shared for a couple years.
	10:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:38 re: mainstream tv
	10:40pm headcleaner: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:35 Agreed, it's not the main draw for most folks -- but people are drawn to him for different reasons, it seems
	10:40pm headcleaner: ↳ Dean @10:38 That's some interesting and fateful overlap there, Dean
	10:41pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "Opaline" by "Inselberg" Many fine nuggets tonight, Jonathan
	10:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ pp @10:34 true that. i miss that show.
	10:44pm Dean: A good family, and a marvelous nanny, whom we adore to this day.
	🎙 10:44pm Jherweg: Chomsky did take some highly controversial stances, and I think about what a more robust political debate we had in the days of William F Buckley debates. Network News killed real debate by the late 80s. It was too big a liability to air anyone taking a hard anti military industrial stance when Lockheed, Ge and Boeing are paying for the advertising .
	10:51pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jherweg @10:44 did you see chomsky/ buckley debate? on youtube... you're right in respects with what network news will allow but i wouldn't call it a real debate, buckley actually threatens chomsky physically once, and has no real position, he just obfuscates. chomsky corrects his facts more than once
	10:53pm headcleaner: ↳ Jherweg @10:44 One suspects (per Chomsky's analysis) they aren't so much concerned about people taking anti-military stances -- but to people genuinely debating and thinking about these things, period (as opposed to having continually histrionic and melodramatic response to them, as is most public discourse these days). That's what's been effectively quashed over the years
	10:57pm tom tom the pipers son: a friend who was a photog asst and was on a job at william f buckley's home, he said that buckley lived like louis the XIV, lots of gold gimcrackry and a uniformed manservant waiting on him, a person of color of course
	10:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ headcleaner @10:53 good point
	11:04pm Daniel from PEI.: Great show and comments… I definitely agree that NC is an important advocate/example of free speech.
	11:15pm joe mulligan: ↳ Song: "Moon Age Get Down" by "Earth Jerks" this is secretly a cover of Death Valley 69
	11:16pm joe mulligan: ↳ joe mulligan @11:15 oops it was Sonic youth! read the tracks too quick. at least i know the song
	🎙 11:16pm Jherweg: It’s from a tribute album .
	11:17pm joe mulligan: ↳ Jherweg @11:16 totally made sense after i made the comment in haste
	🎙 11:23pm Carita: Loving the edge to the music tonight.
	11:35pm joe mulligan: ↳ Carita @11:23 fantastic show, right? sprinkled with things to learn about Chomsky that even my jesuit education didn't teach me.
	🎙 11:42pm Carita: Omg totally into it.
	🎙 11:43pm Jherweg: Thanks for tuning in everybody!
	🎙 11:44pm Carita: Man one more hour please. Lol
	11:46pm ss: very sassy episode. here 4 it
	11:52pm egould: ↳ Song: "Tri-City Dragway" by "Sir Richard Bishop" This is bonkers.
	🎙 11:52pm Ike: Cool cool cool.
	11:52pm rw: TYJH!!
	🎙 11:55pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks for these things, Jonathan!
	11:56pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jherweg
	11:57pm egould: Thanks Jonathan.
	11:58pm ss: i learned a lot this episode bc i went into a noam rabbithole
	11:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JA ~

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Comments	Approx. start time
	Absolutely Real/Adult Entertainment/Transmission Begins				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Noam Chomsky	The Best Form Of Social Organization			Chomsky-Foucault Debate on Power vs Justice (1971) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky–Foucault_debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVQ3l5P0A4	0:00:30 (Pop-up)
Projet De Vie / Bernard Grancher	Projet De Vie - Heiße Maschinen	Vision Sur Plan	Les Disques Omnison (ex-Tom Val Records)	https://tomvalrecords.bandcamp.com	0:01:42 (Pop-up)
Maurizio Abate	Città di bosco "Città di bosco" by "Maurizio Abate"	semi mondi	Self Released	https://maurizioabate.bandcamp.com	0:05:09 (Pop-up)
Maurice Louca	El-Gullashah (Foul Tongue)	Saet El Hazz (The Luck Hour)	Spy Records	https://mauricelouca.bandcamp.com Mazen Kerbaj - Trumpet/Electronics Sharif Sehnaoui - Guitar Raed Yassin - Double Bass Anthea Caddy - Cello Christine Kazaryan - Harp Khaled Yassine - Percussions/Gamelan Maurice Louca - Guitar	0:07:25 (Pop-up)
Noam Chomsky	What We Really Want "What We Really Want" by "Noam Chomsky"			https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFwSQiTu3I	0:11:40 (Pop-up)
Brian Eno	Lighthouse #429 "Lighthouse #429" by "Brian Eno"	Eno (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)	Universal Recordings	https://www.enoshop.co.uk/product/eno_ost.html	0:14:29 (Pop-up)
Alastair Galbraith	Beyond The Valley In Flight	Lagash	Nice Music	https://nicemusiclabel.bandcamp.com/album/060-lagash	0:19:58 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gas	Gas 1 "Gas 1" by "Gas"	Nah Undfern	Kompakt		0:28:09 (Pop-up)
Inselberg	Opaline "Opaline" by "Inselberg"	Voyage d’hiver	Cioran Records	https://cioranrecords.bandcamp.com/album/voyage-dhiver	0:36:18 (Pop-up)
Noam Chomsky	The Consequence Of Your Actions			https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8crzmi6LpUU&list=PLHZGTTZG6HcI2tr4tg8oak8_6Wz5on1jY	0:55:58 (Pop-up)
Rider/Horse	Combing The Horse "Combing The Horse" by "Rider/Horse"	Matted	Ever/Never Records	Visit https://evernever-records.bandcamp.com	0:57:39 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gas	Gas 1 "Gas 1" by "Gas"	Nah Und Fern	Kompakt		1:01:57 (Pop-up)
Noam Chomsky	Becoming A Political Activist			https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikCgqzekFqM	1:04:06 (Pop-up)
Saicobab	Death Valley '69 "Death Valley '69" by "Saicobab"	Confuse Yr Idols: A Tribute To Sonic Youth	Narnack Records	https://www.discogs.com/release/1997664-Various-Confuse-Yr-Idols-A-Tribute-To-Sonic-Youth	1:08:52 (Pop-up)
Earth Jerks	Moon Age Get Down "Moon Age Get Down" by "Earth Jerks"	File: #14	Computer Tapes	https://computertapes.bandcamp.com	1:14:04 (Pop-up)
Noam Chomsky	A System Without Money			https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-diLmj5wJdE&t=51s	1:18:04 (Pop-up)
Mammal	I Believe In God "I Believe In God" by "Mammal"	Deserted	Impermanence	https://doublenature.bandcamp.com/album/deserted	1:20:36 (Pop-up)
Kiki Komendo & Martin Vital	Les Légumes	La Noce Des Éléments	Groovedge Records	https://groovedge.bandcamp.com/album/la-noce-des-l-ments	1:25:09 (Pop-up)
Sankara Future Dub Resurgence	Passing Through Fire	Eritrea Dub Journey	ndigenous resistance	https://dubreality.bandcamp.com/album/ir-59-eritrea-dub-journey-e-book-soundtrack	1:29:14 (Pop-up)
Fera	Not Me, Not You "Not Me, Not You" by "Fera"	Psiche Liberata	Maple Death	https://mapledeathrecords.bandcamp.com/album/psiche-liberata	1:31:47 (Pop-up)
Gaf & The Love Supreme Arkestra	Ocean drive	Ganzfeld	CN Records	https://gafcanaryislands.bandcamp.com	1:34:03 (Pop-up)
Sir Richard Bishop	Tri-City Dragway	Saginaw Racket	Unrock	https://sirrichardbishop.com	1:36:13 (Pop-up)
Linus Vandewolken	Vasten en vastenavond	Oude Geuze uit Niemandaal	Morc Tapes	https://morctapes.bandcamp.com	1:53:48 (Pop-up)
Tahmela Six	Cat of The Paju "Cat of The Paju" by "Tahmela Six"	Mount	Mustik Motel Music	https://mustikmotelmusic.bandcamp.com	1:57:41 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:59pm headcleaner: Haven't caught you terrestrial since your break yet, Jonathan. Welcome back.
	10:02pm Bill K: ↳ Song: "The Best Form Of Social Organization" by "Noam Ch... Glad he's still with us
	🎙 10:05pm Jherweg: Howdy folks, happy to be here! You and me both BIll K
	10:06pm Carmichael: Heya Jonathan and social engineers.
	🎙 10:06pm Carita: Hey everyone
	10:06pm Blues Mandinga: Ea!
	10:07pm Blues Mandinga: Ea!
	10:08pm Daniel from PEI.: Here.
	10:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There.
	🎙 10:14pm Jherweg: Everywhere!!!
	10:15pm Daniel from PEI.: Gnome
	10:16pm Daniel from PEI.: Nineteen Ninety Noam.
	10:16pm Carmichael: On the range
	10:18pm Daniel from PEI.: Where the bee and the cantaloupe roam
	10:19pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "What We Really Want" by "Noam Chomsky" Viva Chomsky (I can't get behind everything he's said and written -- but overall I'm glad he's still with us, and will miss him when he's gone)
	10:19pm Daniel from PEI.: Beer. Beer, not bee.
	10:19pm DL in LA: Listening live for once! I saw Chomsky speak in Boulder, CO in the 1980s.
	10:21pm Daniel from PEI.: Paused an Eno documentary to come to bed tonight…
	10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: hello all...
	10:22pm Carmichael: Me too, at UCSB IN ‘81.
	10:22pm coelacanth∅: 'evening Jonathan & obscure listeners
	10:22pm joe mulligan: yo yo yo, summer schedule's on and we're still here! keep it up Jonathan! next thon's premium needs to joke on that with a cool T shirt
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: scared me for a moment, with the Noam Chomsky pictures
	10:23pm tom tom the pipers son: hello all...
	🎙 10:25pm Ike: Chomsky is fascinating yet also highly problematic in some ways. He even took a pro-Khmer Rouge stance at one point and as far as I know, he never rescinded it.
	10:26pm Carmichael: This the end, beautiful friend …
	10:29pm Daniel from PEI.: I first heard mention of him for his language learning theory.
	10:30pm headcleaner: ↳ Ike @10:25 Or at least an apologetic / denialist stance on their atrocities. That's part of what attracts people to him (the mystique of someone who takes positions like that -- and never retreats)
	10:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Ike @10:25 Well that's odd. Perhaps a side effect of the U.S. involvement in IndoChina.
	🎙 10:32pm Ken From Hyde Park: Noam Chomsky > Kristi Noem
	🎙 10:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:32 Furthermore: Noam Chomsky > Gnomes > Kristi Noem
	10:33pm Chris: Listening in Warsaw watching the sun come up - actually that starts around 3:30. Back to the states today after a whirlwind week driving the entire country. Fine until stricken with some kinda flu three days ago. Absolute hell. Anyway, nice to hear you while I suffer! Chris in Philly
	10:34pm Carmichael: People like to see the world in black and white, with easy answers to right and wrong.
	10:34pm headcleaner: He's not a talking head, but it's not like he's banned from MSM. He was all over TV news long before many of us were politically conscious, has been interviewed by the NYT recently, etc.
	10:34pm pp: The WFMU program Belly of the Beast with Stefan regularly played long Chomsky excerpts. Awesome.
	10:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ headcleaner @10:30 i don't think that's true about mystique. that language is innate being a central tenet to his philosophy is what attracted me...anyway
	10:35pm headcleaner: ↳ pp @10:34 His voice is in itself a performance -- that will be heard for ages
	10:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ headcleaner @10:34 on you tube a debate between him and william f buckley on vietnam in 1969 . with buckley you can see origins of foxnews
	10:38pm Dean: When we had our first child in 2006, we hired a nanny who was also working for Noam Chomsky's son, caring for Noam's grandson. We shared for a couple years.
	10:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:38 re: mainstream tv
	10:40pm headcleaner: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:35 Agreed, it's not the main draw for most folks -- but people are drawn to him for different reasons, it seems
	10:40pm headcleaner: ↳ Dean @10:38 That's some interesting and fateful overlap there, Dean
	10:41pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "Opaline" by "Inselberg" Many fine nuggets tonight, Jonathan
	10:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ pp @10:34 true that. i miss that show.
	10:44pm Dean: A good family, and a marvelous nanny, whom we adore to this day.
	🎙 10:44pm Jherweg: Chomsky did take some highly controversial stances, and I think about what a more robust political debate we had in the days of William F Buckley debates. Network News killed real debate by the late 80s. It was too big a liability to air anyone taking a hard anti military industrial stance when Lockheed, Ge and Boeing are paying for the advertising .
	10:51pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jherweg @10:44 did you see chomsky/ buckley debate? on youtube... you're right in respects with what network news will allow but i wouldn't call it a real debate, buckley actually threatens chomsky physically once, and has no real position, he just obfuscates. chomsky corrects his facts more than once
	10:53pm headcleaner: ↳ Jherweg @10:44 One suspects (per Chomsky's analysis) they aren't so much concerned about people taking anti-military stances -- but to people genuinely debating and thinking about these things, period (as opposed to having continually histrionic and melodramatic response to them, as is most public discourse these days). That's what's been effectively quashed over the years
	10:57pm tom tom the pipers son: a friend who was a photog asst and was on a job at william f buckley's home, he said that buckley lived like louis the XIV, lots of gold gimcrackry and a uniformed manservant waiting on him, a person of color of course
	10:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ headcleaner @10:53 good point
	11:04pm Daniel from PEI.: Great show and comments… I definitely agree that NC is an important advocate/example of free speech.
	11:15pm joe mulligan: ↳ Song: "Moon Age Get Down" by "Earth Jerks" this is secretly a cover of Death Valley 69
	11:16pm joe mulligan: ↳ joe mulligan @11:15 oops it was Sonic youth! read the tracks too quick. at least i know the song
	🎙 11:16pm Jherweg: It’s from a tribute album .
	11:17pm joe mulligan: ↳ Jherweg @11:16 totally made sense after i made the comment in haste
	🎙 11:23pm Carita: Loving the edge to the music tonight.
	11:35pm joe mulligan: ↳ Carita @11:23 fantastic show, right? sprinkled with things to learn about Chomsky that even my jesuit education didn't teach me.
	🎙 11:42pm Carita: Omg totally into it.
	🎙 11:43pm Jherweg: Thanks for tuning in everybody!
	🎙 11:44pm Carita: Man one more hour please. Lol
	11:46pm ss: very sassy episode. here 4 it
	11:52pm egould: ↳ Song: "Tri-City Dragway" by "Sir Richard Bishop" This is bonkers.
	🎙 11:52pm Ike: Cool cool cool.
	11:52pm rw: TYJH!!
	🎙 11:55pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks for these things, Jonathan!
	11:56pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jherweg
	11:57pm egould: Thanks Jonathan.
	11:58pm ss: i learned a lot this episode bc i went into a noam rabbithole
	11:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JA ~

Blurred and Obscured with Jonathan Herweg: Playlist from June 23, 2024

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