WFMU: Blurred and Obscured with Jonathan Herweg: Playlist from March 24, 2024

Listener comments!
	🎙 10:00pm Scott_Oz: G'day Jonathan & Discerning Adults! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	10:02pm brycepunk1: Hello friends. After being away for a while it is so good to be back. Hooray for the fund drive :). Cheers!
	🎙 10:05pm Carita: Hello everybody!!
	🎙 10:05pm Scott_Oz: ↳ brycepunk1 @10:02 Welcome back mate! Cheers! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🎙 10:06pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Carita @10:05 G'day Carita!🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🎙 10:06pm Jherweg: Hey everyone ! Glad to be back !
	10:10pm Gary: Hi Jonathan. Glad to hear your show again.
	🎙 10:11pm Ike: (nods)
	10:15pm joe mulligan: let's have some blurry
	10:16pm Carmichael: Heya Jonathan and the suitably blurred
	🎙 10:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: One day, the playlist will have the color blurgundy.
	10:23pm anonnull: GAS IS EPIC ‼️
	🎙 10:25pm Scott_Oz: Thank you JH for bringing us the joy mate! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🎙 10:32pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Song: "Cosmic Fanfare" by "The Jonny Halifax Invocation" This is great!
	🎙 10:38pm Carita: Yeah I have a swag for life radio icon now. Groovy!!
	🎙 10:39pm Jherweg: Ha ha I don’t even have one!
	🎙 10:40pm Jherweg: Although I donate a swag for life amount of money every year .
	🎙 10:40pm Carita: Lol
	10:41pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Demon Lover" by "Opt Out" safe to assume this isn't a shocking blue cover?!
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: Welcome back Jonathan!
	🎙 10:46pm Scott_Oz: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:41 Girding my loins for post midnight marauder mate. I realized with that ww's parting comment they're the same troll that hit strait after end of marathon last year, boasting about not paying a penny. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	10:51pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Scott_Oz @10:46 i had to think for a minute (ouch!) who's ww -before reading further ("troll") yeah, can't worry about that! of course it hasn't left; just lurking somewhere. don't remember the parting comment though
	🎙 10:54pm Carita: Ghostly sounds... digging it!
	10:54pm Carmichael: If it gets too bad, Kenzo can zap the troll. He’s done it before. My last night’s comment about people in general is sadly accurate …
	🎙 10:55pm Scott_Oz: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:51 I am never muted in my mothers basement.
	🎙 10:55pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Scott_Oz @10:55 their quote. My paraphrasing from memory.
	10:56pm Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "How To Draw Buildings" by "Dave Harrington, Max J... Pretty amazing... Hi Jonathan and All. I just got a book that I think some of you might find interesting--Quantum Questions: Mystical Writings of the World's Greatest Physicists.
	🎙 10:57pm Jherweg: The comments board here has been surprising my peaceful of late , fellas , let’s not jinx it !
	🎙 10:57pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Carmichael @10:54 A few people put chat bots in to train too. That's bloody annoying.
	🎙 10:58pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Jherweg @10:57 Shit yes mate!🍻😎🤙💨🍺🕊️
	10:58pm coelacanth∅: this is just a semitroll. not directly attacking and quickly feigning innocence due to ignorance. and being friendly and amicable (sp?) some of the time. very clever...and probably not zapworthy.
	10:58pm joe mulligan: ↳ Jherweg @10:57 hahaha dont make Jonathan get out the zapper!
	🎙 10:58pm Jherweg: I like to go back and edit trolls comments to make them look like fools .
	10:59pm Carmichael: 10-4 good buddy 😉
	🎙 10:59pm Scott_Oz: ↳ joe mulligan @10:58 I've been zapped a couple of times, friendly fire from my exchanges with trolls.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jherweg @10:57 yes. maybe keep troll out of the comments when there's no troll in the comments!
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jherweg @10:58 hahaha
	11:00pm Marie in Chicago: who you calling troll? @)
	🎙 11:00pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Jherweg @10:58 Love it mate! Was it you who did that with the MAGA nutbag? I think I remember Kellen doing it too?
	11:01pm joe mulligan: ↳ Jherweg @10:58 that sounds hilarious. and Scott many times I've had fine friends remind me not to feed them
	🎙 11:02pm Scott_Oz: ↳ joe mulligan @11:01 Indeed mate! But last week this one made it personal. & I've someone zeros in on my I defend.
	🎙 11:03pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:02 if* ??
	🎙 11:04pm Scott_Oz: My policy is starvation from now on... I hope!?
	🎙 11:05pm San Pedro Girl: Hi Jonathan and blurred, obscured folks.
	11:06pm referencetone: How to Draw Buildings is fantastic. Picking this up very soon.
	11:06pm coelacanth∅: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:05 Greetings
	11:06pm tom tom the pipers son: @scott speaking as a friend, i did not think you were on the right side of that tit for tat last week
	11:07pm joe mulligan: I used to ask them kindly to set up a profile so we know they're a friend of WFMU but that even gets kooky. we all like the music you love Jonathan!
	11:07pm wenzo: well this irregular listener has been enjoying the show so thanks!
	11:09pm coelacanth∅: sitting with a friend today. we talked about music for a few hours, as we do, then finally hit some of the things we don't agree on! free-jazz (me,yay; he,nay) and vanilla fudge (he, yay; me, nay) no fisticuffs. today.
	🎙 11:09pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Song: "Moving Towards The Light" by "Ram Das" I was surprised to hear the sound of Ram Das speaking. I have only read but never heard his voice. It was not how I'd imagined it. Do you have a date for that, Jonathan?
	11:09pm Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "The old pavilion near the lake" by "Miaux" i love this
	11:09pm spodiodi: Good evening, Jonathan and all
	11:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo. Nice painting.
	🎙 11:10pm Carita: I am a blurred and obscured addict!!!
	11:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:09 ...Be Hear Now...
	11:10pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:09 was looking too
	🎙 11:10pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:06 Hi coelacanthø!
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: ↳ spodiodi @11:09 aloha spodi!
	11:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:10 ...like Basquiat going Impressionist harhar...
	11:12pm Carmichael: This is beautiful
	11:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:11 good way to put it...
	🎙 11:12pm Ike: I was just reminiscing about the guy who posted a hilarious comment to Reddit about Daniel Blumin sounding like "a slowed down echo of two dumpsters crashing into each other for 15 minutes." He was being sarcastic, but I was like, I wish he'd play that! I want to hear it!
	🎙 11:12pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:10 Is that an order?
	11:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:12 ...comparison being the enemy of joy ...often @ your service...
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: i have be here now but never got round to reading it. i had "how can i help" which was suggested reading for a trade workshop but it got stolen! very good book though.
	11:13pm spodiodi: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:11 ayoha, coelacanthØ!
	11:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:12 - well, it is in the Imperative, but I'm sure he meant no harm ...anyway I missed Hearing it. Tho I have heard him speak (not in person)...
	11:15pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:13 hmm never heard that, but have experienced comparison directed at me yo quash joy
	11:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Ike @11:12 'Technique is just a way of arriving @ a Statement.' - Pollack
	11:16pm tom tom the pipers son: to quash
	11:17pm DJ MF: I am that certain kind of person. Jazz is the gateway and so are you. Thanks for the sonic splendor, Jonathan.
	11:17pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:16 the how doesn't matter... the why does
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Ike @11:12 everyone's homework for the week: make a recording of 2 dumpsters crashing into each-other. they will be reviewed in class next week.
	🎙 11:18pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:06 I was a little tired & emotional at the end of the Marathon mate. So reacted as such to their subtle sniping, not my finest hour, but their barbed personal comments goaded me into my reactions. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	11:20pm joe mulligan: trolls love to do that, egging on is their playbook!
	11:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:17 Well - it's not saying Technique doesn't matter. It can matter a great deal. It is saying it's a means to an end. I reckon it follows to ask : 1.) Does it - in fact - arrive ? What is the Statement ? 2.) Is it Relevant ? Does the Statement matter ? This doesn't mean it's gotta be heavy. Something that makes you laugh or feel good can be 'Relevant'. Ferinstance.
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Grands espaces" by "Meril Wubslin" Beautiful. this reminds me of Ō Paon
	11:22pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:18 right, but he did not originate as a troll you made him into one. don't mean to put you on the spot, but feel i have to say something because it got ugly like shitty crap social media
	🎙 11:22pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:12 I read the book when I was only ten. I found myself on a path of explorationd. It was a sort of gateway.
	🎙 11:22pm Scott_Oz: ↳ joe mulligan @11:20 Yeah mate. & I usually ignore it. But this one dialled it in to be very specific to me.
	11:23pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:20 right i over simplified
	11:25pm Carmichael: I will bring my dumpsters in for Show & Tell next week.
	11:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:22 i empathize with you feeling personally attacked
	11:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 Well ...we might well consider the weight of the Why in a Work's value. & it might be a different way of saying the same thing...
	🎙 11:25pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:13 It is funny. I was just discussing that very thing with a friend a few days ago. If one really wants to be miserable he/she should begin comparing him/her self to others. It is a sure way toward discontentment.
	🎙 11:26pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:22 Unfortunately we can't pull up the full exchange for me to point out where they actually flicked my switch mate. But I assure you they knew what they were doing & the results they wanted. All that is left are my comments, which in isolation seem extreme. But I don't bite unless bitten mate.
	11:26pm spodiodi: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:25 Well said
	11:28pm joe mulligan: ↳ Song: "Prelude" by "Brad Mehldau" that Brad Mehldau track was sublime. I'd go see him just from that track if he'd come play in SF
	11:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:25 Interesting - I've tended to think of it in terms of talking about Art & Music. But you make me recall a thing RamDas said about how when we go in a forest - we don't judge trees for being different shapes because of their circumstances - bent or whatever. So he tried to do the same thing with people - & think of them as trees...
	11:29pm coelacanth∅: commenter before Scott: external-content.duckduckgo.com... same commenter after Scott: external-content.duckduckgo.com...
	🎙 11:30pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:26 Over the last few days I’ve had to resist responding to some really insensitive, hurtful comments. I’m practicing not reacting which is not my strong suit.
	11:30pm spodiodi: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:28 Love this
	🎙 11:30pm Scott_Oz: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:29 Hah! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺 I anm The Troll Maker!!
	11:31pm tom tom the pipers son: just one last thing... the thread started out with people getting on the guy for commenting when he didn't pledge which is not right, it makes fmu into a subscriber service totally against its ethos...turns out the guy was living in his mom's basement, could have been a kid
	11:32pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:29 ha!
	🎙 11:32pm Scott_Oz: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:30 I hear you mate. I can normally ignore personal attacks, but never can let someone else be attacked when I'm there.
	🎙 11:34pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:31 As I said mate. Same MO as a troll last marathon's end. The basement crack was them calling themselves out as a troll.
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:31 i really don't want to add anything, as our host would like no troll discussion at all... but no, that wasn't quite how it started. it started with he/she/it saying "is it finally over?" and how they got through it without having to pledge because others pledged enough. /... but it even started over a week before that on a different show when it was being trollish then making comments about not donating this year... when obviously has never helped out the station.
	🎙 11:36pm Jherweg: Trolls are best ignored , even this conversation about them seems like a waste of time .
	🎙 11:37pm Scott_Oz: Not ruining Jonathan's show by talking about it further.
	11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always thot of Trolls as like the Angry Drunk @ a bar. Whatever they say it's 'about' - it's not really about. It's the attention & maybe the provocation. I am in fact a little prone to taking the bait & engaging to counter them. In fact - this is kind of a syndrome between the Let & Right politically too often. We loudly despair the Facts aren't acknowledged - when the Facts were never their priority. I am wondering if people pointed out he was a Contributor - during Fundraising specifically - when he was already taking space in a negative way. Not to say that's right - but it would be context...
	11:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:37 - was *not a contributor. Some context apparently provided...
	11:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:36 A Troll in other words.
	11:40pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:36 i had no prior experience with the guy and if he was flaunting not donating he's a bit of ajerk. but in the middle of it kendra welcomed him to the chatboard to no avail. generally i see this alittle differently
	🎙 11:41pm Ike: Should every show on WFMU have a title? What title would you give them if they had to have one? I'd say Blumin should go with A Slowed Down Echo of Two Dumpsters Crashing into Each Other, and similarly, Bryce should use Marbles in a Blender. Both inspired by semi-troll-like comments that were then "reclaimed".
	🎙 11:42pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Ike @11:41 I see a live recording opportunity mate!
	11:43pm herb.nyc: ↳ Song: "Prelude" by "Brad Mehldau" Hi. Tuned in short while ago. Don’t know what the troll talk is about but glad to hear it being talked about in very reasonable manner I don’t know Brad M but accidentally tuned into a wnyc interview (fresh air?) and he’s such an interesting guy. So I listened to his Beatles record and really liked.
	11:43pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ike @11:41 john allen has something like that in his intro on top of page re: joe belock... w little dig
	11:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:40 i'd seen him (her/it) being civil, at least once. i forgot what show. but that time and at least one previous time (Irwin's show?) entered the comments with antagonistic posts. i think that's the modern definition of a troll; but i may be wrong.
	🎙 11:44pm Jherweg: Blumin often talks about wishing his show had a title , and I’m always like “it’s not to late to give it one “
	11:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Maybe sometimes people need a clue about reading the room - a little information about the scene & how it works - &/or - the (virtual) offer of here have a beer & be kewl & be friends, man - & then they can get with what's happening here. Or even a mild warning. I think FMU likes to live up to its ideals of being where the outsider can fit in. & I've seen this kinda thing work. But of course ...not always.
	11:45pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Ike @11:41 when life gives you trolls, make troll juice
	🎙 11:45pm Scott_Oz: I will be late to Kendra's show anyway. Gotta go fill out a form to volunteer at the Lifeline Thrift Store.
	11:47pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:45 i'll keep you a primo seat
	🎙 11:47pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:47 Cheers mate!🌻
	11:47pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:45 i think i've witnessed trolls transform into non-trolls, but i can't think of user names... and don't know if they became regular commenters
	11:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I refer to Blumin's Program as being like the Krell Labs in 'Forbidden Planet' - where super machines taking up the entire interior of a world from an advanced alien race turned your subconscious thots into realties...
	11:49pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Nirvana — Something In The Way" by "Malre Deszik" this guitar reminds me of the muldoons cover of this song on Belock many years ago. 2 children, guitars and vox, their father on drums
	🎙 11:49pm Carita: This one speaks to my mood at the moment
	11:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:48 *realities - not real estate. Per se.
	11:54pm Scobot: This is a brilliant Gordon release. As good as No Home Record. Never disappoints.
	11:56pm chresti: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:45 haha!
	🎙 11:56pm Scott_Oz: Jonathan, thanks once more for your magic mate! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺☕🌻
	🎙 11:58pm Carita: Ended strong! Great show! 🥳💥✌️👏🦾🏋
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jherweg!
	11:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JH ~
	12:02am chresti: thanks JHerweg!
	4:44pm mustard_station: great show!

Blurred and Obscured with Jonathan Herweg: Playlist from March 24, 2024

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Comments	Approx. start time
	Absolutely Real/Adult Entertainment/Transmission Begins				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Steve Dalachinsky	Poem For Cecil Taylor And Derek Bailey	Live @ The Poetry Center San Fransico			0:01:11 (Pop-up)
H.R. Giger's Studiolo	Solo French Horn in Stuffetta	H.R. Giger's Studiolo Vol.1 & Vol.2	Discrepant	https://pacificcitydiscs.bandcamp.com/album/h-r-gigers-studiolo-vol-1-vol-2	0:02:33 (Pop-up)
Room 31	Ok Mr. Tough Guy "Ok Mr. Tough Guy" by "Room 31"	Crazy Town	Positive Revelation	https://positiveelevation.bandcamp.com/album/crazy-town	0:04:41 (Pop-up)
Billy Bultheel	The Man without Content - Snow Cycle	Two Cycles	PAN	https://billybultheel.bandcamp.com/album/two-cycles	0:11:08 (Pop-up)
Scott Scholz	Maria Muoter Reinû Maît	Whip Sigils,	Tymbal Tapes	2nd edition with bonus EP Visit https://tymbaltapes.bandcamp.com	0:13:14 (Pop-up)
Kitchen Cynics / Margery Daw / Grey Malkin	Orange Tip (Cynics)	Weeping Stones	Cruel Nature Records	Visit https://cruelnaturerecordings.bandcamp.com	0:18:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gas	Gas 1 "Gas 1" by "Gas"	Nah Und Fern`	Kompakt		0:22:03 (Pop-up)
The Jonny Halifax Invocation	Cosmic Fanfare	Açid Blüüs Räägs Vol.2	God Unknown Records	Visit https://godunknownrecords.bandcamp.com	0:28:30 (Pop-up)
Pulse/Spasm/Vapor Trio	Chlorophyll Cone Pulse	Beyond A Forgetful Green	North Pole	https://northpolerecords.bandcamp.com/album/beyond-a-forgetful-green	0:34:23 (Pop-up)
Ram Das	Moving Towards The Light "Moving Towards The Light" by "Ram Das"				0:37:35 (Pop-up)
Opt Out	Demon Lover "Demon Lover" by "Opt Out"	The Tambura	Kirigirisu Recordings	https://kirigirisurecordings.bandcamp.com/album/the-tambura	0:38:38 (Pop-up)
Dave Harrington, Max Jaffe, Patrick Shiroishi	How To Draw Buildings	Speak, Moment	AKP Recordings	Visit https://daveharringtonmaxjaffepatrickshiroishi.bandcamp.com	0:45:32 (Pop-up)
ATM Trio	The Fountain "The Fountain" by "ATM Trio"	1452		https://atmtrio.bandcamp.com/album/1452	0:57:17 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gas	Gas 1 "Gas 1" by "Gas"	Nah Und Fern	Kompakt		1:01:47 (Pop-up)
Miaux	The old pavilion near the lake	Never Coming Back	VIERNULVIER Records	Visit https://miaux.bandcamp.com	1:07:13 (Pop-up)
Brad Mehldau	Prelude "Prelude" by "Brad Mehldau"	Après Fauré	Nonesuch Records	https://bradmehldau.bandcamp.com/album/apr-s-faur	1:14:27 (Pop-up)
Meril Wubslin	Grands espaces "Grands espaces" by "Meril Wubslin"	FAIRE ÇA			1:18:04 (Pop-up)
Lori Vambe	Going Home Boogie One "Going Home Boogie One" by "Lori Vambe"	Space-Time Dreamtime (The Four Dimensional Music Of Lori Vambe)	Strut	https://strut.bandcamp.com/album/space-time-dreamtime	1:22:31 (Pop-up)
Matt Christensen	All Around You "All Around You" by "Matt Christensen"	All Around You		https://mattchristensensolo.bandcamp.com/album/all-around-you	1:33:10 (Pop-up)
A Lilly	Ħajti Kollha, Qalbi "Ħajti Kollha, Qalbi" by "A Lilly"	Saru l-Qamar	Phantom Limb	https://alily.bandcamp.com/album/saru-l-qamar	1:38:41 (Pop-up)
Steven Wright	Helter Skelter "Helter Skelter" by "Steven Wright"				1:42:59 (Pop-up)
Daniel Davies	Spies "Spies" by "Daniel Davies"	Spies	Sacred Bones	https://danieldaviesmusic.bandcamp.com/album/spies	1:43:10 (Pop-up)
Malre Deszik	Nirvana — Something In The Way	Trash_Mid		Visit https://malredeszik.bandcamp.com	1:46:39 (Pop-up)
Kim Gordon	Pscyhedelic Orgasm "Pscyhedelic Orgasm" by "Kim Gordon"	The Collective	Matador	https://kimgordon.bandcamp.com/album/the-collective	1:49:47 (Pop-up)
Yourniss	Negative Space "Negative Space" by "Yourniss"	White Space			1:53:29 (Pop-up)
Ivory Alter	Carpeted Gleaming Vines	The Evemtual Echo			1:54:45 (Pop-up)
The Heartwood Institute	The Moon Nevr Beams	Edgar Allan Poe			1:58:52 (Pop-up)
MPU101	Sunset Memories "Sunset Memories" by "MPU101"	ITX031-MPU104			1:59:30 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🎙 10:00pm Scott_Oz: G'day Jonathan & Discerning Adults! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	10:02pm brycepunk1: Hello friends. After being away for a while it is so good to be back. Hooray for the fund drive :). Cheers!
	🎙 10:05pm Carita: Hello everybody!!
	🎙 10:05pm Scott_Oz: ↳ brycepunk1 @10:02 Welcome back mate! Cheers! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🎙 10:06pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Carita @10:05 G'day Carita!🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🎙 10:06pm Jherweg: Hey everyone ! Glad to be back !
	10:10pm Gary: Hi Jonathan. Glad to hear your show again.
	🎙 10:11pm Ike: (nods)
	10:15pm joe mulligan: let's have some blurry
	10:16pm Carmichael: Heya Jonathan and the suitably blurred
	🎙 10:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: One day, the playlist will have the color blurgundy.
	10:23pm anonnull: GAS IS EPIC ‼️
	🎙 10:25pm Scott_Oz: Thank you JH for bringing us the joy mate! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🎙 10:32pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Song: "Cosmic Fanfare" by "The Jonny Halifax Invocation" This is great!
	🎙 10:38pm Carita: Yeah I have a swag for life radio icon now. Groovy!!
	🎙 10:39pm Jherweg: Ha ha I don’t even have one!
	🎙 10:40pm Jherweg: Although I donate a swag for life amount of money every year .
	🎙 10:40pm Carita: Lol
	10:41pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Demon Lover" by "Opt Out" safe to assume this isn't a shocking blue cover?!
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: Welcome back Jonathan!
	🎙 10:46pm Scott_Oz: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:41 Girding my loins for post midnight marauder mate. I realized with that ww's parting comment they're the same troll that hit strait after end of marathon last year, boasting about not paying a penny. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	10:51pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Scott_Oz @10:46 i had to think for a minute (ouch!) who's ww -before reading further ("troll") yeah, can't worry about that! of course it hasn't left; just lurking somewhere. don't remember the parting comment though
	🎙 10:54pm Carita: Ghostly sounds... digging it!
	10:54pm Carmichael: If it gets too bad, Kenzo can zap the troll. He’s done it before. My last night’s comment about people in general is sadly accurate …
	🎙 10:55pm Scott_Oz: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:51 I am never muted in my mothers basement.
	🎙 10:55pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Scott_Oz @10:55 their quote. My paraphrasing from memory.
	10:56pm Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "How To Draw Buildings" by "Dave Harrington, Max J... Pretty amazing... Hi Jonathan and All. I just got a book that I think some of you might find interesting--Quantum Questions: Mystical Writings of the World's Greatest Physicists.
	🎙 10:57pm Jherweg: The comments board here has been surprising my peaceful of late , fellas , let’s not jinx it !
	🎙 10:57pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Carmichael @10:54 A few people put chat bots in to train too. That's bloody annoying.
	🎙 10:58pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Jherweg @10:57 Shit yes mate!🍻😎🤙💨🍺🕊️
	10:58pm coelacanth∅: this is just a semitroll. not directly attacking and quickly feigning innocence due to ignorance. and being friendly and amicable (sp?) some of the time. very clever...and probably not zapworthy.
	10:58pm joe mulligan: ↳ Jherweg @10:57 hahaha dont make Jonathan get out the zapper!
	🎙 10:58pm Jherweg: I like to go back and edit trolls comments to make them look like fools .
	10:59pm Carmichael: 10-4 good buddy 😉
	🎙 10:59pm Scott_Oz: ↳ joe mulligan @10:58 I've been zapped a couple of times, friendly fire from my exchanges with trolls.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jherweg @10:57 yes. maybe keep troll out of the comments when there's no troll in the comments!
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jherweg @10:58 hahaha
	11:00pm Marie in Chicago: who you calling troll? @)
	🎙 11:00pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Jherweg @10:58 Love it mate! Was it you who did that with the MAGA nutbag? I think I remember Kellen doing it too?
	11:01pm joe mulligan: ↳ Jherweg @10:58 that sounds hilarious. and Scott many times I've had fine friends remind me not to feed them
	🎙 11:02pm Scott_Oz: ↳ joe mulligan @11:01 Indeed mate! But last week this one made it personal. & I've someone zeros in on my I defend.
	🎙 11:03pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:02 if* ??
	🎙 11:04pm Scott_Oz: My policy is starvation from now on... I hope!?
	🎙 11:05pm San Pedro Girl: Hi Jonathan and blurred, obscured folks.
	11:06pm referencetone: How to Draw Buildings is fantastic. Picking this up very soon.
	11:06pm coelacanth∅: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:05 Greetings
	11:06pm tom tom the pipers son: @scott speaking as a friend, i did not think you were on the right side of that tit for tat last week
	11:07pm joe mulligan: I used to ask them kindly to set up a profile so we know they're a friend of WFMU but that even gets kooky. we all like the music you love Jonathan!
	11:07pm wenzo: well this irregular listener has been enjoying the show so thanks!
	11:09pm coelacanth∅: sitting with a friend today. we talked about music for a few hours, as we do, then finally hit some of the things we don't agree on! free-jazz (me,yay; he,nay) and vanilla fudge (he, yay; me, nay) no fisticuffs. today.
	🎙 11:09pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Song: "Moving Towards The Light" by "Ram Das" I was surprised to hear the sound of Ram Das speaking. I have only read but never heard his voice. It was not how I'd imagined it. Do you have a date for that, Jonathan?
	11:09pm Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "The old pavilion near the lake" by "Miaux" i love this
	11:09pm spodiodi: Good evening, Jonathan and all
	11:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo. Nice painting.
	🎙 11:10pm Carita: I am a blurred and obscured addict!!!
	11:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:09 ...Be Hear Now...
	11:10pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:09 was looking too
	🎙 11:10pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:06 Hi coelacanthø!
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: ↳ spodiodi @11:09 aloha spodi!
	11:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:10 ...like Basquiat going Impressionist harhar...
	11:12pm Carmichael: This is beautiful
	11:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:11 good way to put it...
	🎙 11:12pm Ike: I was just reminiscing about the guy who posted a hilarious comment to Reddit about Daniel Blumin sounding like "a slowed down echo of two dumpsters crashing into each other for 15 minutes." He was being sarcastic, but I was like, I wish he'd play that! I want to hear it!
	🎙 11:12pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:10 Is that an order?
	11:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:12 ...comparison being the enemy of joy ...often @ your service...
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: i have be here now but never got round to reading it. i had "how can i help" which was suggested reading for a trade workshop but it got stolen! very good book though.
	11:13pm spodiodi: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:11 ayoha, coelacanthØ!
	11:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:12 - well, it is in the Imperative, but I'm sure he meant no harm ...anyway I missed Hearing it. Tho I have heard him speak (not in person)...
	11:15pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:13 hmm never heard that, but have experienced comparison directed at me yo quash joy
	11:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Ike @11:12 'Technique is just a way of arriving @ a Statement.' - Pollack
	11:16pm tom tom the pipers son: to quash
	11:17pm DJ MF: I am that certain kind of person. Jazz is the gateway and so are you. Thanks for the sonic splendor, Jonathan.
	11:17pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:16 the how doesn't matter... the why does
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Ike @11:12 everyone's homework for the week: make a recording of 2 dumpsters crashing into each-other. they will be reviewed in class next week.
	🎙 11:18pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:06 I was a little tired & emotional at the end of the Marathon mate. So reacted as such to their subtle sniping, not my finest hour, but their barbed personal comments goaded me into my reactions. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	11:20pm joe mulligan: trolls love to do that, egging on is their playbook!
	11:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:17 Well - it's not saying Technique doesn't matter. It can matter a great deal. It is saying it's a means to an end. I reckon it follows to ask : 1.) Does it - in fact - arrive ? What is the Statement ? 2.) Is it Relevant ? Does the Statement matter ? This doesn't mean it's gotta be heavy. Something that makes you laugh or feel good can be 'Relevant'. Ferinstance.
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Grands espaces" by "Meril Wubslin" Beautiful. this reminds me of Ō Paon
	11:22pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:18 right, but he did not originate as a troll you made him into one. don't mean to put you on the spot, but feel i have to say something because it got ugly like shitty crap social media
	🎙 11:22pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:12 I read the book when I was only ten. I found myself on a path of explorationd. It was a sort of gateway.
	🎙 11:22pm Scott_Oz: ↳ joe mulligan @11:20 Yeah mate. & I usually ignore it. But this one dialled it in to be very specific to me.
	11:23pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:20 right i over simplified
	11:25pm Carmichael: I will bring my dumpsters in for Show & Tell next week.
	11:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:22 i empathize with you feeling personally attacked
	11:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 Well ...we might well consider the weight of the Why in a Work's value. & it might be a different way of saying the same thing...
	🎙 11:25pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:13 It is funny. I was just discussing that very thing with a friend a few days ago. If one really wants to be miserable he/she should begin comparing him/her self to others. It is a sure way toward discontentment.
	🎙 11:26pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:22 Unfortunately we can't pull up the full exchange for me to point out where they actually flicked my switch mate. But I assure you they knew what they were doing & the results they wanted. All that is left are my comments, which in isolation seem extreme. But I don't bite unless bitten mate.
	11:26pm spodiodi: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:25 Well said
	11:28pm joe mulligan: ↳ Song: "Prelude" by "Brad Mehldau" that Brad Mehldau track was sublime. I'd go see him just from that track if he'd come play in SF
	11:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:25 Interesting - I've tended to think of it in terms of talking about Art & Music. But you make me recall a thing RamDas said about how when we go in a forest - we don't judge trees for being different shapes because of their circumstances - bent or whatever. So he tried to do the same thing with people - & think of them as trees...
	11:29pm coelacanth∅: commenter before Scott: external-content.duckduckgo.com... same commenter after Scott: external-content.duckduckgo.com...
	🎙 11:30pm San Pedro Girl: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:26 Over the last few days I’ve had to resist responding to some really insensitive, hurtful comments. I’m practicing not reacting which is not my strong suit.
	11:30pm spodiodi: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:28 Love this
	🎙 11:30pm Scott_Oz: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:29 Hah! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺 I anm The Troll Maker!!
	11:31pm tom tom the pipers son: just one last thing... the thread started out with people getting on the guy for commenting when he didn't pledge which is not right, it makes fmu into a subscriber service totally against its ethos...turns out the guy was living in his mom's basement, could have been a kid
	11:32pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:29 ha!
	🎙 11:32pm Scott_Oz: ↳ San Pedro Girl @11:30 I hear you mate. I can normally ignore personal attacks, but never can let someone else be attacked when I'm there.
	🎙 11:34pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:31 As I said mate. Same MO as a troll last marathon's end. The basement crack was them calling themselves out as a troll.
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:31 i really don't want to add anything, as our host would like no troll discussion at all... but no, that wasn't quite how it started. it started with he/she/it saying "is it finally over?" and how they got through it without having to pledge because others pledged enough. /... but it even started over a week before that on a different show when it was being trollish then making comments about not donating this year... when obviously has never helped out the station.
	🎙 11:36pm Jherweg: Trolls are best ignored , even this conversation about them seems like a waste of time .
	🎙 11:37pm Scott_Oz: Not ruining Jonathan's show by talking about it further.
	11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always thot of Trolls as like the Angry Drunk @ a bar. Whatever they say it's 'about' - it's not really about. It's the attention & maybe the provocation. I am in fact a little prone to taking the bait & engaging to counter them. In fact - this is kind of a syndrome between the Let & Right politically too often. We loudly despair the Facts aren't acknowledged - when the Facts were never their priority. I am wondering if people pointed out he was a Contributor - during Fundraising specifically - when he was already taking space in a negative way. Not to say that's right - but it would be context...
	11:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:37 - was *not a contributor. Some context apparently provided...
	11:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:36 A Troll in other words.
	11:40pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:36 i had no prior experience with the guy and if he was flaunting not donating he's a bit of ajerk. but in the middle of it kendra welcomed him to the chatboard to no avail. generally i see this alittle differently
	🎙 11:41pm Ike: Should every show on WFMU have a title? What title would you give them if they had to have one? I'd say Blumin should go with A Slowed Down Echo of Two Dumpsters Crashing into Each Other, and similarly, Bryce should use Marbles in a Blender. Both inspired by semi-troll-like comments that were then "reclaimed".
	🎙 11:42pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Ike @11:41 I see a live recording opportunity mate!
	11:43pm herb.nyc: ↳ Song: "Prelude" by "Brad Mehldau" Hi. Tuned in short while ago. Don’t know what the troll talk is about but glad to hear it being talked about in very reasonable manner I don’t know Brad M but accidentally tuned into a wnyc interview (fresh air?) and he’s such an interesting guy. So I listened to his Beatles record and really liked.
	11:43pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ike @11:41 john allen has something like that in his intro on top of page re: joe belock... w little dig
	11:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:40 i'd seen him (her/it) being civil, at least once. i forgot what show. but that time and at least one previous time (Irwin's show?) entered the comments with antagonistic posts. i think that's the modern definition of a troll; but i may be wrong.
	🎙 11:44pm Jherweg: Blumin often talks about wishing his show had a title , and I’m always like “it’s not to late to give it one “
	11:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Maybe sometimes people need a clue about reading the room - a little information about the scene & how it works - &/or - the (virtual) offer of here have a beer & be kewl & be friends, man - & then they can get with what's happening here. Or even a mild warning. I think FMU likes to live up to its ideals of being where the outsider can fit in. & I've seen this kinda thing work. But of course ...not always.
	11:45pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Ike @11:41 when life gives you trolls, make troll juice
	🎙 11:45pm Scott_Oz: I will be late to Kendra's show anyway. Gotta go fill out a form to volunteer at the Lifeline Thrift Store.
	11:47pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Scott_Oz @11:45 i'll keep you a primo seat
	🎙 11:47pm Scott_Oz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:47 Cheers mate!🌻
	11:47pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:45 i think i've witnessed trolls transform into non-trolls, but i can't think of user names... and don't know if they became regular commenters
	11:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I refer to Blumin's Program as being like the Krell Labs in 'Forbidden Planet' - where super machines taking up the entire interior of a world from an advanced alien race turned your subconscious thots into realties...
	11:49pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Nirvana — Something In The Way" by "Malre Deszik" this guitar reminds me of the muldoons cover of this song on Belock many years ago. 2 children, guitars and vox, their father on drums
	🎙 11:49pm Carita: This one speaks to my mood at the moment
	11:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:48 *realities - not real estate. Per se.
	11:54pm Scobot: This is a brilliant Gordon release. As good as No Home Record. Never disappoints.
	11:56pm chresti: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:45 haha!
	🎙 11:56pm Scott_Oz: Jonathan, thanks once more for your magic mate! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺☕🌻
	🎙 11:58pm Carita: Ended strong! Great show! 🥳💥✌️👏🦾🏋
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jherweg!
	11:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JH ~
	12:02am chresti: thanks JHerweg!
	4:44pm mustard_station: great show!

Blurred and Obscured with Jonathan Herweg: Playlist from March 24, 2024

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