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Favoriting March 4, 2024: Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman

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Today: Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman

• “Being nice to chatbots pays off” (Axios, Feb 26, 2024): “It pays to be nice to your AI: Large language models (LLMs) tend to give better answers when prompted respectfully — and failure to do that can ‘significantly affect LLM performance,’ per a new cross-cultural research paper.” See Should We Respect LLMs? A Cross-Lingual Study on the Influence of Prompt Politeness on LLM Performance, submitted Feb 22, 2024. “Impolite prompts may lead to a deterioration in model performance, including generations containing mistakes, stronger biases and omission of information.”

• From the U.S. Energy Information Administration (Feb 1, 2024): “we estimate [current annual] electricity usage from Bitcoin mining based in the United States to range from 25 TWh to 91 TWh. That estimate represents 0.6% to 2.3% of all United States electricity demand in 2023, which was 3,900 TWh.”

The Staggering Ecological Impacts of Computation and the Cloud (MIT Press, Fal 2023): “The Cloud now has a greater carbon footprint than the airline industry. A single data center can consume the equivalent electricity of 50,000 homes. . . . In Bluffdale, Utah, residents are suffering from water shortages and power outages, as a result of the nearby Utah Data Center, a facility of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that guzzles seven million gallons of water daily to operate.”

HP misreads room, awkwardly brags about its “less hated” printers (Ars Technica, Dec 7, 2023): about HP’s ad campaign, last fall, with the tag line “made to be less hated.”

    --> ...then, three months later: HP wants you to pay up to $36/month to rent a printer that it monitors (Ars Technica, Feb 29, 2024): “HP launched a subscription service today that rents people a printer, allots them a specific amount of printed pages, and sends them ink for a monthly fee. . . . The All-In-Plan privacy policy also says that HP may ‘transfer information about you to advertising partners’ so that they can “recognize your devices,” perform targeted advertising, and, potentially, ‘combine information about you with information from other companies in data sharing cooperatives’ that HP participates in. The policy says that users can opt out of sharing personal data.”

AI deepfake in real time, translating French to English and syncing it with the speaker on camera, from Channel 1 (Nov 10, 2023)

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Listener comments!

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tim:

Hey Mark and Ken! Sock it to the AI man!
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DanFA:

Yo
  6:00pm
sinkhole near my home:

Ken and Mark!
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Webhamster Henry:

[ ] I am not a robot.
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Mark Hurst, Ken, and all!!!
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David (in London):

Evening Mark, Staysh and assembled Technoids.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
tim:

Hey sink, webhamster, Will and David!
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bleubombersune:

Mark & Ken a joyous good evening
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Ciggy:

👀 🕸
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Ike:

Pledge RIGHT NOW, you dirty techno-hippies!!! 1-800-989-9368!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
PaulRobeson1924:

Not a Robot here
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Krull Sagan:

David, a decidedly unchaotick arrival…suspicious, even
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DanFA:

↳ Ike @6:03
Who you calling dirty? I took 5 showers today.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark & Ken! All!
  6:05pm
P-90:

Who’s newsier?
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Triple G:

Hi Mark, Ken, techno-hippies, Luddite-fighters, chatbots, and Woof-Moo community
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
mackeral:

hello everyone :)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
tim:

Wait! It’s Complicated isn’t a public affairs show?
  6:07pm
P-90:

If you’re not polite the AI doesn’t perform as well, because it doesn’t feel supported
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
David (in London):

↳ Krull Sagan @6:03
Hey Krull. I try never to make a scene when Mark is on the mic...
  6:07pm
Mr. Palchepo:

What if you speak entirely in metaphors?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Ike:

↳ DanFA @6:03
You have heart and radio icons, so your sins were already washed away even before the first of the five showers! WFMU is happy to engage in techno-indulgences of sin through tithes!
  6:08pm
morphe':

↳ David (in London) @6:01
David van der Stoke ... was Volunteering this am at the station and was with Paul who met you in London and he showed me a photo of ye ... so if/when we meet on the street or in the Stokie cemetery, I shall know you by sight ... I can send HH a photo of myself that he can send to you so we can meet as equals ... actually, Paul took some photos today and he can send one ...
Thinking of London before July???
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
PaulRobeson1924:

You are looking good today, Chat bot! Do we have any beautiful robots in the audience tonight? Oh! Your the best audience Mrs.Robot
  6:08pm
Steve Del Sol:

And maybe she is looking for a husband, Ken.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Handy Haversack:

OK, Techyon Particles! Let's get to pledging -- and if you call, you might even get to talk to me!

Pledge extra, and you can talk to someone else!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
DanFA:

↳ Ike @6:08
I have been baptized in the waters of the Hudson River.
Avatar 🤖 6:10pm
herb.nyc:

Chatbots agree-“that Ken freedman really leads us on”
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Handy Haversack:

David!
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David (in London):

↳ morphe' @6:08
morphester! Ha ha, glad that you've been doing facial recognition the old skool way! Just let me know and I'll see you in Abney Park Cemetary with some cans of Guinness.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
David (in London):

↳ Handy Haversack @6:10
Yo Runza!
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Triple G:

Pledge just made ✅

via the web though, sorry
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
tim:

I love you super cool WFMU surveillance sticker!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Mike Sin:

I canceled my "master race" blood transfusion appointment this week and donated the money I saved to WFMU.
  6:13pm
honest Bernardo from Argentina:

I actually would like a WFMU chip in my head
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
PaulRobeson1924:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:08
You’re! Dangit! You robits are the best at spelling and grammar
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joe_rosevear:

Yes, it is odd, but chat bots seem to emulate human behavior, and that includes nuances like nice-ness. But it really should not come as a surprise--the code itself emulates the human brain.
  6:14pm
P-90:

“Smart Sticker” they make it sound so innocuous and friendly, that’s how they penetrate the market and build acceptance
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Erin in TO:

↳ honest Bernardo from Argentina @6:13
I'd trust a WFMU chip more than any other company
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
lazy pierogi:

regarding the images on the playlist, www.11foot8.com is a fun site that documents the various crashes that occur at a notorious can opener bridge in North Carolina
  6:15pm
honest Bernardo from Argentina:

It would be easier than saving all the shows and clicky starring the songs and writing in my journal about all the Tubby sketches I love.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Handy Haversack:

Mike Sin is my hero.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
PaulRobeson1924:

↳ Mike Sin @6:13
Smart Move smart Move
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Webhamster Henry:

Kevin Kelley was a Whole Earth Reviewer.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
tim:

↳ Mike Sin @6:13
Uh, don’t you have a couple billion to spare, Mike? Not just some measly sticker sized pledge.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Mike Sin:

↳ tim @6:16
I'm saving a fair amount for Mark Hurst's presidential campaign.
Avatar 🤖 6:19pm
herb.nyc:

I’ve been donating blood since 1978(9?). My recipients now are likely getting more minuses than plus. Sigh
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
David (in London):

↳ Mike Sin @6:18
I'd surely chip for that,
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
David (in London):

↳ David (in London) @6:19
Ahem, chip in for that.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
tim:

↳ Mike Sin @6:18
Mike- please forgive my indignance. That’s a great plan!
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herb.nyc:

30billiom faces? Can you imagine a billfold w that many wallet fotos?!
  6:21pm
P-90:

Kashmir is a really cool communicator, and I LOVE her sweaters
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Handy Haversack:

If you call and pledge now, you can talk an actual person -- and it's not even me! But someone cool!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Erin in TO:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:22
Anyone manning the phones has to be cool, it's implicit in being someone who volunteers at WFMU
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
tim:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:22
Handy! Are you in the phone room?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

I'm late, but glad to be here. Yay Mark Hurst!
One reason y'all should pledge to Mark's show: the incredible amount and quality of authors on Techtonic. I have gotten my library to order SCORES of books I've learned about on this show. Yay!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ tim @6:23
Sitting right here!
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tim:

↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:23
Yes! Bravo, Wendy!
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Erin in TO:

Yay Handy!
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PaulRobeson1924:

What other radio station can you freely express yerself in the way we do here?! Freeform WFMU radio is worth a pledge and more
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tim:

Wooo, Handy and volunteers!
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Handy Haversack:

Bonus points if you call from a rotary!
  6:25pm
morphe':

9 phones folks call and make them scurry !!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
tim:

Handy - I’ll call you and you can pretend like you’re taking a pledge. It’ll impress Ken!
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MarciB:

↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:23
yes indeed!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Mike Sin:

I don't know if I'm going to get the WFMU emotional support animal collar for my cat or myself.
  6:28pm
P-90:

Wait… the pet collar premium is ALSO “smart?!”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Erin in TO:

↳ Mike Sin @6:28
Crap, I ordered for my cat without even considering I could get it for myself
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
chris in the redwoods:

trust us its music t-shirt + collar = wfmu gold.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Handy Haversack:

Beep boop. Beep.
  6:29pm
Marie in Chicago:

hey, but we ARE animals, humans that is
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
David (in London):

Handybot couldn't select all the photos with traffic lights. I'm not falling for that one.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
PaulRobeson1924:

Traditional shirt, please
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
tim:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:29
You heard Handybot, folks! Call him, give him a money pledge, then pledge your love to him!
  6:31pm
Listener Robert:

Don: "Can we change the channel?"

Me: I thought you liked Techtonic.

Don: "Yeah, but they're asking for money, and I don't have any."

Me: Neither do I, but I want to hear this.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Handy Haversack:

Chris in the Redwoods, your compliance has been noted.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
tim:

Whooo K8!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:31
beep boop
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MarciB:

I'd love to see Jethro Haynes's awesome bumper sticker design on a t-shirt too..how much do I have to pledge to get that? ;)
  6:36pm
Marie in Chicago:

hydrofoiling with zucker--lol!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Handy Haversack:

Big bowl of brain chips on the table here. They said to take all we wanted!
Avatar 🤖 6:36pm
herb.nyc:

David Sacks talks about analog. Maybe mark and Ken can talk about their sacs. (Sorry)
  6:36pm
P-90:

Ken pronounces Zuck like “zook”?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

So today I rented a car (mine is in the shop), and I wanted to sync my surveillance phone with the car's bluetooth so I could listen to WFMU. Well, when Toyota prompted me to download the app, because of listening to Techtonic, I knew to SAY NO! It wanted access to my photos and contacts. NOOOO!
And I still got to listen to WFMU without their stupid app.
So, thank you, Mark Hurst for educating us!
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Ciggy:

Kenny Mnemonic
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Webhamster Henry:

Ahem.the Andymatic Zingatron:
ios.lisisoft.com...
  6:38pm
Fredericks:

I thought, Matt Warwick would get chipped for $3.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Mike Sin:

That cover image on Mark's premium is definitely sentient.
  6:38pm
morphe':

TypeWriters:
David Z of V-Effect ["Stop Playing Those Songs"] told the story that as a late 60s/early 70s? typewriter repairman .. his company had the contracts with both the NYC FBI office and the CPUSA [Communist Party of the usa]on 23rd st.. and worked both offices ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
Greg from ZONE 5:

Drum tracks are locked, ya'll!
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steveo:

Ottsc :) :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
dale:

'leave me alone
i'm an analog man
and my bark is much worse than my byte.'
Avatar 🤖 6:40pm
herb.nyc:

There was an 800 number billed as “callin Oates”, and you’d hear a H&O song (I think). So cute.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
PaulRobeson1924:

WFMU- let yer hair down- stay awhile
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Folsom:

I have 5 second skip on my podcast player, can skip through the ads pretty quickly
  6:44pm
Robm:

↳ Folsom @6:43
folsom what player do you use?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Folsom:

↳ Robm @6:44
pocket casts, I assume other players do the same. I was surprised on my car the steering wheel controls do the skip forward/back.
  6:46pm
Robm:

↳ Folsom @6:45
will check it out thanks
  6:47pm
morphe':

Serious note: The Hungry Cat sweatshirt comes with an advisory that says it seems to run small so order a size upwards ... not joking
Avatar 🤖 6:48pm
herb.nyc:

Musk- how many kids does he have? Did I read ELEVEN?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Ciggy:

There is a Starlink / Space X launch almost every day
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Folsom:

I wish the marathon CD downloads were FLAC instead of mp3, the server costs must be lower than sending out all of those CDs.
Avatar 🤖 6:49pm
herb.nyc:

I just pledged. Via iPhone (3 hrs ago I told Joe McG of issue w iPhone when pledging. He got it fixed! I love joe)
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tim:

↳ herb.nyc @6:48
I’m guessing he didn’t do the work to make them. He just bought them for the Dad title.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Krull Sagan:

No! ALIENS!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
PaulRobeson1924:

1 for human 2 for not human
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Krull Sagan:

(& thus Alien)
Tyrell Corp. was Blade Runner
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
dale:

the petrox corporation from the 70s king kong scares me more.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Krull Sagan:

Haha sorry I kinda lost it there when I heard Wayland Yutani
  6:52pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ Krull Sagan @6:50
The damn company. What about our lives!
  6:52pm
Fredericks:

↳ Folsom @6:48
No more cds?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Mennlinn Rebarts:

↳ Krull Sagan @6:50
Weyland Yutani wants to put a facehugger in front of each and every one of us while we sleep.
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herb.nyc:

↳ tim @6:50
With his money he can buy QUALITY children
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
tim:

↳ herb.nyc @6:52
Aw man, you’re right. What can’t he do, dammit!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Folsom:

↳ Fredericks @6:52
You can get CDs, but the download option is mp3 and not FLAC.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Webhamster Henry:

I was originally called "webmonster" web.archive.org...
  6:55pm
Fredericks:

↳ Folsom @6:54
I see. Thanks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Bryant in TO:

Tyrell was "More human than human" but Weyland-Yutani was too diversified, had too many models that were a bit twitchy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
dale:

burner phone. chris/kris is gonna knock over a duane reade later.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Bryant in TO:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:52
Mark won't lie to us about our chances but...he has our sympathies :)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
PaulRobeson1924:

WFMU! It’s worth it! Express yourself baby
  6:56pm
Listener Robert:

↳ P-90 @6:36
Well, Zuckerman means "sugar man", so why not pronounce the Zuck part more like other languages' words for sugar?
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chresti:

YAY DRUGS!
  6:57pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ Bryant in TO @6:55
Bishop saved the day.
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Bryant in TO:

↳ Bryant in TO @6:56
We have *his* sympathies :)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
PaulRobeson1924:

Do you like Oatmeal? Of course! Everyday of the week!
  6:58pm
Fredericks:

↳ Listener Robert @6:56
What does Zuckerberg mean?
  6:58pm
yippie:

wow Mark you are in more fake Finnish bands than Phish
  6:58pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:57
rolled or the other kind?
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tim:

Thanks Markand Staysh!!
  6:58pm
Listener Robert:

↳ Fredericks @6:58
Sugar hill.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
PaulRobeson1924:

Rolled, please. Let it roll baby roll
  6:59pm
JJ-NY-SC:

I don't know if you mentioned this but Total Trust can be streamed at Hoopladigital.com. All you need is a library card.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Bryant in TO:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:57
He truly did. Just worming down that shaft earned my respect.
  6:59pm
Marie in Chicago:

It's an awesome show, Mark. Thanks, Mark and Ken! (and everybody)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
bleubombersune:

Mark & Ken Thanks all stay safe and be well
  7:00pm
morphe':

Thanks MH and Kenneth and all !!!
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PaulRobeson1924:

Thank you Mark & Ken & WFMU! Keep it up baby
  7:00pm
P-90:

Thanks, guys
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark and Ken!
Avatar 🤖 8:48am
herb.nyc:

↳ JJ-NY-SC @6:59
Wow. Really? Thx for telling us!
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