WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 4, 2024

Listener comments!
	8:56am Webhamster Henry: This is the 2024 World!
	9:00am bradford: Good morning Trouble & greetings to all.
	9:00am Robm: good morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:01am Andrea C: Hi Trouble, just want to wish you Happy New Year! Unfortunately there is only so much time in a day and I have to study! Bye :)
	9:01am Handy Haversack: Gray Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all!
	9:02am steveo: harp the herald angels?
	9:02am love2laf: Happy New Year to you Trouble, hope you had a marvelous time. Hello Troubled friends, happy new year to you all. Happy studying Andrea C.
	9:03am Edgar from Maine: /tips hat
	9:03am northguineahills: ↳ steveo @9:02 stealing that!
	9:04am Listener Bryan (the Professor): good morning, trouble & all troubled modern lovers
	9:04am βrian: From anxiety dreams to Trouble. What a relief!
	9:04am steveo: ↳ northguineahills @9:03 www.discogs.com...
	9:05am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @9:03 howdy again NGH howdy again L2L
	9:05am northguineahills: ↳ steveo @9:04 beautiful!
	9:05am northguineahills: ↳ Robm @9:05 howdies!
	9:06am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:01 i'm soaking some beans for navajo tacos tonight. we were supposed to have record club at our place but had to cancel due to the 'rona. But I'm gonna let C have his hand at fry bread tonight and see how it goes as a trial run. it's been a while since i made some.
	9:06am Charles in Chicago: This is nice music. (But of course it's nice music, it's Thursday morning!)
	9:07am common: hello, trouble! everyone
	9:07am Trouble: good morning 2024 thursday land!
	9:07am ami ad: Hello DJ. Hello all.
	9:09am HyperDose: ↳ Song: "II" by "Mary Lattimore & Mac McCaughan" So gentle. Like a feather
	9:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:06 And now I'm hungry again.
	9:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ ami ad @9:07 Hey, ami ad.
	9:09am tom tom the pipers son: good morning dj trouble and people...
	9:10am Charles in Chicago: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:06 I associate Navajo tacos with driving across the Southwestern US, never had them east of Texas
	9:13am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Charles in Chicago @9:10 yes, they were a staple in northern AZ when i was a kid. every boy scout fundraising dinner etc.
	9:13am Chris Hiatt: Mornin', y'all. Happy to be listening in.
	9:14am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum" what a voice
	9:14am Edgar from Maine: I've been to Arizona a gazillion times and have yet to have a Navajo taco. Now I know what's on the menu for the next trip.
	9:14am Eran: One thing every Jordanian seemed to agree on: Um Kalthum was evening listening and Feyruz was for mornings.
	9:14am Vanessa bikes: Good morning Trouble, we have free tickets for out of bounds tomorrow! happy new year.
	9:14am love2laf: ↳ Robm @9:05 It's like you never left, just seamlessly glided from Wake to Modern in a smooth sidestep.
	9:15am BillyLundun: ↳ Song: "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum" Loving this today!
	9:15am tom tom the pipers son: the william scott image, reminding me of an un-cosmopolitan alex katz
	9:15am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Edgar from Maine @9:14 i've never eaten them in a restaurant so i wouldn't even know where to look, but i imagine you can find them at roadside places across the old Rte 66 or on the res.
	9:16am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and fliers. Happy 2024!
	9:16am steveo: ↳ northguineahills @9:05 sort a pain though, because i noticed that the title was transcribed wrong and submitted a correction on the discogs site, which took a few minutes; ah the tribulations of being a fussbudget
	9:17am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:14 was lurking during wake because i did not want to go over 20 posts and incur the wrath of ken
	9:17am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:09 these don't happen as often as they used to bc friends live primarily upstate now but we'll have to get you and k8 out to one of these sometime. www.recordclub.org
	9:17am ami ad: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:09 Morning.
	9:18am Spikey BXL: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:06 Record club hosted by you sounds like something else!
	9:19am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:17 That would be lovely.
	9:19am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Spikey BXL @9:18 i'm a relative latecomer (2004). it's a great thing. i wish it still happened every month.
	9:19am rx "rexy" scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	9:20am melinda: Morning friends
	9:22am Listener Bryan (the Professor): Trouble, you're really making me homesick for the Gulf this morning.
	9:23am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" Sounds like Lee has played Fury of Dracula. "What do you mean there's no rail connection between Hamburg and Amsterdam?! He's getting away!!"
	9:23am Sera from Rockaway: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" Gosh I love Lee Hazelwood. Hi Trouble, HNY
	9:23am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" comboy in sweden movie is a hoot...hazelwood on horseback riding down ramp off the back of a plane
	9:23am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" Back when folks used the timpani in country music.
	9:24am Carmen: Good morning Trouble and to all my fellow listeners from Oregon
	9:24am StringOFperils: ↳ Chris Hiatt @9:23 Back when independence didn't come with a Facebook group.
	9:26am love2laf: ↳ Song: "saranpe" by "umeko ando" Always remarkable the crossover clicky stars between Trouble and Olivia. Two very different DJ shows, and yet, so much music in common :)
	9:34am northguineahills: i can never get the hang of thursdays...
	9:36am steveo: ↳ Song: "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum" it would seem that the original spelling is أم كلثوم
	9:36am Handy Haversack: I'm Steve McQueen. I'm burning clean.
	9:36am Rev. Turnip Druid: haven't seen that film in ages but remember digging very much
	9:38am Rev. Turnip Druid: ^ meaning the McQueen/Wood film
	9:39am northguineahills: so, happy i'm leaving this desatanfied state (apologies to allusions to satan).
	9:39am northguineahills: i've seen the later film!
	9:39am Handy Haversack: Waiting to see if Rev. Turnip Druid turns out to be a big Father Goose fan ...
	9:40am P-90: “…love and relationships” uh-oh…
	9:40am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:36 ok, i'm taking you to the next open mic nite, this is your warning! 😁
	9:41am mark denver: just looked up my kanopy ..have father goose not the McQueen Natalie wood great choice Nina simone!!
	9:42am tom tom the pipers son: seemed there were a few movies with hollywood veteran actors inheriting large groups of children... wonder why....?
	9:43am mark: have to get it from denver public library..that's where I just got davud suisman latest book capitalism and the senses!!
	9:44am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "maryan" by "robert wyatt" perfect. second wyatt of the morning!
	9:45am mark denver: looking forward to poor things and the zone of interest
	9:46am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "maryan" by "robert wyatt" Very cool. That vocal line was almost prog adjacent, reminded me of Hatfield and the North.
	9:48am mark: good coffee laundry and trouble ..not bad way to start the day
	9:48am tom tom the pipers son: manzanera prolly on guitar
	9:49am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @9:39 you mean the fundamentalist republic of florida
	9:53am pp: I feel it is very Felt-like
	9:54am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "eschuchar el pasado" by "Belver yin" lovely. almost Durutti Column territory. Trouble, do you know the trumpet player Amir Elsaffar? I think he's right up your alley. www.amirelsaffar.com
	9:55am The Oscar: ↳ mark denver @9:45 Both are excellent! Poor Things is a lot of fun; Zone decidedly less so, but still pretty astounding. My review of Poor Things, if you're interested (I'll be covering Zone when it opens up here next week): bostonhassle.com...
	9:58am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:54 Amir is so talented. I ran in the old Bloomington music scene with his sister, Dena. They both perform in the Rivers of Sound Orchestra, excellent music.
	9:58am tom tom the pipers son: wyatt adjacent...if anyone not familiar with phil manzanera album diamond head, go there if only for the eno song "miss shapiro"
	9:58am Trouble: @ listener bryan: sounds familiar but not sure. i will check him out. merci!
	9:59am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Chris Hiatt @9:58 I saw him a couple times in Abu Dhabi and once here, when he played with his old teacher (what a night!). He's so good.
	9:59am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Trouble @9:58 I checked the artist search after I asked and see that he's been on Irene, Destination: OUT, Transpacific SP, but not Modern World. I think you'll like him!
	10:01am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "sabena" by "greg foat & gigi masin" Late to the party. This is gorgeous! Happy new year, all. I think we're allowed to say that till like the 7th, right?
	10:02am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Chris Hiatt @9:58 First time I saw him in AD (2016?) was with the large version of Rivers of Sound Orchestra. So good.
	10:04am Toothgrinder Tom: I’ve seen ‘Father Goose’ (I may even own the dvd for some reason) but I don’t remember much about it.
	10:04am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Trouble @9:58 xoxo
	10:04am mark: the oscar thanks check out richard Brody review of maestro..destroyed it
	10:05am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:02 Nice. I got to see them at Pioneer Works a few years back, they blew the roof off the joint.
	10:07am alan the painter: Yes! what happened to 'Greeneys'!
	10:08am Handy Haversack: My handwriting, never good, has become so atrocious. And I write kind of a lot, at least for this day and age.
	10:08am Edgar from Maine: Cursive was a relic of the time when fountain pens worked best when not lifted from the paper. Today, it's a way adults can send secure handwritten messages that children can't read.
	10:08am Crownless Gander: Agreed! Writing one's thoughts creates a flow completely unlike typing. Even printing doesn't really do it.
	10:09am captain beef fart: My handwriting is so bad having to whiteboard stuff at work gives me the heebie-jeebies.
	10:09am melinda: I enjoy writing, it's drawing letters.
	10:09am Crownless Gander: (And my handwriting is also terrible, but at least I know how to do it, in theory.)
	10:10am melinda: ↳ Song: "wasn't born to follow" by "dusty springfield" I know this from my CD of The City, Carole King's group.
	10:10am common: ↳ melinda @10:09 agreed
	10:10am Trouble: education theory says that writing down notes in class secures the info in your mind more than simply typing into a laptop. something about the use of multiple thought patterns to create the letters
	10:11am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:08 Yeah, the mini struggles to read cursive, and she's normally an excellent reader.
	10:11am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "wasn't born to follow" by "dusty springfield" I keep hearing Cohen's "Suzanne" beneath this.
	10:11am Trouble: yes! @ edgar!!
	10:11am captain beef fart: ↳ Trouble @10:10 But now we have "virtual assistants" to do it for us! ;)
	10:12am Juli: One more day till party nights
	10:13am Edgar from Maine: Handwriting is fun, unique and beautiful. Added bonus is margin doodles!
	10:13am Juli: I love my cursive It’s gotten better
	10:14am StringOFperils: ↳ Trouble @10:10 For that reason, I would relate the motor-skills of drawing to cursive handrotor. With the development and exercise of these skills, a person can conceive of things independently and bring them into reality in ways that are not passive. These are leadership skills.
	10:15am mark: trouble please a little story how you kicked the nuns in the shins
	10:15am Chris: drove up from Philly for cd fair Saturday. Got to meet Matt and buy about 75 cd’s. Highly irresponsible! 🥺
	10:16am Robm: ↳ Juli @10:12 yeah juli, don’t party too much:)
	10:16am Edgar from Maine: ↳ Chris Hiatt @10:11 I can 'read' cyrillic in the sense that I know how to sound out the letters but not the cursive version of cyrillic—no idea what's going on there. Empathy!
	10:17am northguineahills: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:16 the ukraine war has made me able to phonetically read the cyrillic alphabet...
	10:17am Dan S: My handwriting is so bad, even I can hardly read it. Also, I'm a hunt-and-peck typist. Why won't they put those letter keys in alphabetical order? LOL
	10:18am Webhamster Henry: ↳ northguineahills @10:17 Cyrillic cursive isn't super bad, but to really encode something in a Western language, and curse at cursive, try Kurrentschrift in German .
	10:19am northguineahills: ↳ Webhamster Henry @10:18 most germans can't use it today...
	10:19am Trouble: i took intensive russian in the 80's and there was no other way to do it besides write out the letters. and then they were different from what was printed in our books...
	10:20am Edgar from Maine: ↳ Webhamster Henry @10:18 Good heavens that looks horrid.
	10:20am love2laf: My printing was always atrocious, and cursive was equally awful. Grade 3 teacher decreed that all my homework must be typed. At this point with hand disabilities I'd be lost without typing messages, lists, etc.
	10:20am Zip7: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:13 One of the most surprising things I've found from working with incarcerated folks is how many of them have exquisite handwriting. A number have had relatively little exposure to keyboards.
	10:21am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "the wrong thing" by "the congos" one of my fave albums of all time...
	10:22am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:20 I translated a letter my great grandfather wrote in it that also had the disadvantage of spelling errors...
	10:22am Edgar from Maine: ↳ Zip7 @10:20 This is a fascinating topic! Incarcerated people aren't as polluted by screens and gizmos as 'free' people are.
	10:22am Jason from Houston: ↳ Song: "the wrong thing" by "the congos" Muchly here for this.
	10:22am Spikey BXL: I started using a fountain pen and notebook again a couple of years ago, to not let my handwriting go the way of the dodo
	10:22am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:20 you have arthritis Love?
	10:22am StringOFperils: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:22 Yet they ARE on screen always.
	10:22am northguineahills: ↳ Webhamster Henry @10:22 crap, everything i right today has speling errors! 😉
	10:24am jinjabredboy: ↳ northguineahills @10:21 I'll second that
	10:24am Edgar from Maine: ↳ StringOFperils @10:22 Gah! Is NO place sacred??
	10:24am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:22 Spikey! More good news to make me jealous! Slift is playing in Brussels in March! Face-meltingly great heavy-psych. Stand in front of the bass player (right side as you face the stage), and see if your face doesn't melt off! Just see! MONDAY 18 MARCH 7:00 PM Brussels, Belgium Ancienne Belgique (AB)
	10:24am love2laf: ↳ Robm @10:22 Not as of last check up, I'm an odd duck who has many cysts, makes it difficult to even hold a pen. Modern keyboards require only the lightest of touches.
	10:24am HyperDose: ↳ northguineahills @10:22 How are you getting to NY? Plane, train, automobile?
	10:24am Karl: ↳ Song: "the wrong thing" by "the congos" Trouble have you heard the 2 Bears song “Heart of the Congos”? It’s their ode to this record. m.youtube.com...
	10:25am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @10:20 as mentioned before, i was switched from being left-handed in kindergarten, and by penmanship was so atrocious, my teachers made me type all of my homework.. (yeah, i technically can still write, but, it's slow...)
	10:25am Trouble: @ karl: will look that up! gracias
	10:25am Dan S: ↳ love2laf @10:20 I didn't do any typewritten school assignments until I got to high school, when some teachers started requiring it. I remember my first typewriter, a manual portable. A Royal, I think. It got me through my college years, too.
	10:26am northguineahills: ↳ HyperDose @10:24 plane.... and omg, wtah am i doing (i'm fine, the wfmu fam is keeping me calm...) 5 hours to go...
	10:26am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:24 Cheers Handy. Saw them at Roadburn in 2022. It was impressive but not totally my thing, so I will give them a pass. Esp. with three shows in the week leading up to it. Ancienne Belgique a superb venue though.
	10:27am Edgar from Maine: ↳ northguineahills @10:25 My younger bros 1st grade teacher forced him to write with his right hand and he wrote everything in mirror image!
	10:27am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:26 OK, but maybe swing by the venue with a big sign that says "Handy says come back to Brooklyn!"?
	10:28am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:24 gotcha thanks
	10:28am Zip7: ↳ HyperDose @10:24 Someone referred to I-95 from DC to Boston as "The Corridor of Hatred" based on the driving styles -- the "Jersey Slide" of crossing three lanes to an exit in about 100 yards as a prime example
	10:28am dday: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 Even though flying has become somewhat of a pain in the ass (TSA etc.) It beats driving especially in winter months. I used to fly all over in the mid 90's . You could get to the gate 15 mins before boarding & get on your flight no problem. No more
	10:28am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 glad we are doing that for you
	10:29am bixa: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 has anyone else noticed maryland drivers like to go slow in the left lane?
	10:30am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:27 Ha! I'll try. Last time a message was posted outside the AB for a long time, it read: "Welcome to hellhole". After how cheeto POTUS had referred to our beautiful capital.
	10:30am StringOFperils: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 Finish packing and get to that airport, ngh!
	10:30am Robm: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 known in some places as the jersey slide
	10:30am HyperDose: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 The "Jersey slide" from the left lane is a very real thing!
	10:31am northguineahills: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:27 i'm not that talented, but i know people that are...
	10:32am Phillippe: good morning all!
	10:32am Robm: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:30 unfortunately he might get elected again
	10:32am dday: ↳ bixa @10:29 It's funny how every state says that about drivers from another state. PA drivers get slammed from Jersey people all the time with that & yet whenver I drive in NJ (and I'm from there originnaly & spent years & many many miles on the road working there) I find NJ drivers to be among the worst offenders. Boston area close second, Baltimore/DC corridor on par with the other two :) People just need to have some patience
	10:33am Trouble: OMG: i love that, 'the jersey slide'. perfect description of some serious stupid drivig
	10:33am HyperDose: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 A 2hr flight is nothing. You'll be there before you know it!
	10:33am Spikey BXL: ↳ Robm @10:32 the idea makes my stomach turn
	10:33am sinners rejoice!: ↳ Song: "de dar do" by "dj dolores" very nice! thank you
	10:34am Robm: ↳ dday @10:32 dday and they all move to florida where driving can get interesting at times
	10:34am northguineahills: ↳ dday @10:28 it's the random surcharges these days. and i've spent many nights in airports on the floor due to 'acts of god'. i don't mind the actual flying, it's the process. once I'm there, and the person is there to pick me up. i'll relax....
	10:34am Karl: ↳ Trouble @10:33 I learned this term from the Titus Andronicus song “A More Perfect Union”
	10:34am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "de dar do" by "dj dolores" digging this, trouble!
	10:34am Robm: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:33 mine too in so many ways with this assclown
	10:34am dday: ↳ Robm @10:34 Oh my yes. My brother lived in Sunrise for quite awhile & when I visited I got to see it first hand.
	10:35am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ dday @10:32 I learned a move in Jersey in the late 80s that was described as the "Jersey Juke": You pull into the right hand turn lane just before a light goes green and then blast through the light straight ahead, shortcutting the line of cars stopped for the light.
	10:36am Robm: ↳ dday @10:34 and there is traffic 24 hours a day
	10:36am sinner's rejoice!: music from '00s bring sunshine!
	10:36am dday: ↳ northguineahills @10:34 breathe deep, you'll be back in NYC in no time. :) I'd insert the Genesis song here (Back in NYC) but I'm not signed in so the link won't be active
	10:36am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:35 Selection bias is a thing, but I tend to notice in Brooklyn that whenever my attention is caught by someone pulling an absolute bonehead, pedestrian-killer move on the roads, the license plate tends to be NJ (or PA ...).
	10:36am bixa: ↳ dday @10:32 ive heard there's a lot of exits on the left in dc which informs my maryland theory... poor jersey, the way roads are designed do not encourage ppl to be in a good mood while driving
	10:37am dday: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:35 Oh yeah seen that plenty
	10:37am Zip7: ↳ northguineahills @10:34 I remember being terrified when I first noticed the tiny hole in the airplane window. I thought it was placed there to suck my soul out the window when airborne,
	10:37am sinner's rejoice!: or should I say, early aights!
	10:37am Karl: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:36 Unrelated, I am circling your block right now, and have been for days
	10:37am HyperDose: ↳ bixa @10:36 The lack of infrastructure upkeep is a major issue too
	10:38am Robm: ↳ Zip7 @10:37 now NGH is not gonna want to fly
	10:38am dday: ↳ bixa @10:36 Yes there are. Rt 22 as you get closer to Newark in NJ is like that. Very dangerous. I've known several killed on it
	10:38am Handy Haversack: ↳ Karl @10:37 Roll down the window -- I'll throw pizza!
	10:39am Phillippe: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 I'm from Annapolis MD, witness to (and willing participant in) the insane driving around here. I was in the Charleston SC area and had a hard time adjusting to being around drivers doing the speed limit, using their turn signals, etc. The police presence down there had a lot to do with it, I think. MD cops have always been lax but since Covid, they pull over even less people. I can't recall the last time I saw a speed trap here.
	10:39am Robm: ↳ dday @10:38 i don’t go on us 22 unless i have too
	10:39am dday: ↳ Robm @10:38 Just keep looking out on the wing for that little hairy guy Shatner saw :)
	10:39am time is fleeting: can find spare tires on the road, broken furniture.. be careful
	10:40am Robm: ↳ dday @10:39 that was one screwed up movie dday
	10:42am bixa: ↳ Phillippe @10:39 ohhh yeah, i lived in souteastern TN for a while and there were speed traps everywehre, even in the middle of nowhere
	10:42am time is fleeting: rt 22 very dangerous, things fall off of trucks and stay on the road for a while
	10:43am Handy Haversack: Of course, the most dangerous drivers in NYC are the cops.
	10:44am Edgar from Maine: Maine drivers aren't too bad if you don't see the Allen's Coffee Brandy bottles being tossed out the window. We look out for the MA plates and proceed cautiously around them.
	10:45am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:43 Sorry, AND KARL.
	10:46am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:43 This might be because a lot of 'em live in Nassau and Suffolk Counties. The most dangerous drivers in the solar system are from those counties.
	10:47am mark/trubble: saw sun ra few times in NYC back in the day. talked to him about the cosmos...funny guy
	10:47am Phillippe: ↳ time is fleeting @10:42 I have the "be the second fastest car" mentality when I'm on the road and let the fastest car serve as the radar detector. I drive 5-15 MPH over the limit all of the time, and haven't had a speeding ticket since I was 17. Not bragging, it's just an indication of how lax things are around here.
	10:47am Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @10:46 We might be in a real chicken-or-egg-type deal here.
	10:47am StringOFperils: Toronto's a bit like that at times too. Extremely high-speed pursuit right through crowded streets and urban neighbourhoods. I once saw an Interceptor that didn't make it, tucked neatly beneath the rear end of a city streetcar (approx 70 tonnes). It was about 24 inches long from front grill to rear-bumper. Totally accordioned and welded under that behemoth. That cop must've been flying.
	10:48am bixa: ↳ Phillippe @10:47 my friend's dad always says (as if he's the state trooper) "Over 5 you're five, over 10 you're mine"
	10:49am northguineahills: ↳ dday @10:36 ( a certain wfmu dj played that last night, and lultzed!)
	10:50am mark: simone Dina pretty vocal
	10:51am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "now i lay me down to weep" by "simone dina" I'm still not 100% sure how to define popcorn, but I love it every time I hear it.
	10:51am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ dday @10:37 I don't know if the name is widespread. The people who taught it to me (and who took pride in their ability to make that move) were not Jersey natives, I confess. But they had enthusiastically adapted to the driving.
	10:51am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:35 Oh that's what they call it! Happens on Church Ave here in Kenzo on the reg.
	10:51am mark: finally!! thanks trubyl
	10:52am Peter in SEA: Bonjour Trouble and listeners! LOVE William Scott and that whole St. Ives crowd! Beautiful painting on the playlist page :-) And this Monk pretty rad too!
	10:53am mark: was talking bout seeing him in80 81 have to contact tmonk jr
	10:53am Trouble: bonjour @ peter!
	10:54am mark: have to set up turntable so forgetful/ lazy
	10:54am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "Memories of You" by "thelonious monk" Never heard this Monk before! I love it when he plays standards.
	10:54am Phillippe: ↳ bixa @10:48 Ya, I think that's pretty accurate here on surface streets. all bets are off on the expressways. The State police on the DOT side will pull trucks over with vigor for the slightest thing, but passenger cars get a free reign. My oldest has a flat bed tow truck he uses to pick up cars for his repair shop and he gets pulled over every couple months or so to check his straps on the cars and things like that. He's had more warnings than he can count but never any fine.
	10:55am Phillippe: Hopping off early for a call. Thanks so much trouble!
	10:55am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "now i lay me down to weep" by "simone dina" "popcorn girls" sounds like a Trouble premium, just saying.
	10:56am HyperDose: ↳ time is fleeting @10:42 I think 78 is worse than 22. Higher speed limit and it's hilly which causes blind spots in bad weather
	10:57am pmcWhenever: cowpaths and corruption over hundreds of years, somewhat paved and cobblestoned underneath young and immortal youthz, freshly licensed and underdeveloped and likely impaired aka students make the Boston\|Cambridge area uniquely catastrophic semesterly…
	10:57am Spikey BXL: "knowledgeable Bob" sounds like a good nickname
	10:58am Chris Hiatt: ↳ HyperDose @10:56 Bronx River Parkway is terrifying.
	10:58am northguineahills: ↳ HyperDose @10:37 i don't mind the act of flying, it's everything surrounding it. If i can be in and out in 15 minutes each way, i'll be fine (being charged $90 for bags in october i didn't expect.)
	10:58am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:30 I'd love to see the Hellhole one day. Preferably during concert season!
	10:58am Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @10:58 QFT
	10:59am Handy Haversack: Palisades Parkways is totally off the hook as well, at least in the NJ section. It does calm down somewhat once you're in NY.
	11:00am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:58 Barely have an off season. Belgian audiences liked by most touring artists. You have a friend here!
	11:00am melinda: I hate self-checkout
	11:01am HyperDose: ↳ northguineahills @10:58 I heard some airlines are nickel and diming people for carry-on luggage now. Assume it's to recoup pandemic expenses when no one was flying
	11:01am Maulydaft: Amazing! Overthrowing self checkout! Just be really slow and frustrated and complain loudly while doing it! :D :D
	11:01am Handy Haversack: Never use a self-checkout unless you steal a lot. Then hopefully they realize that the self-checkouts lead to theft and go back to, you know, hiring people. I think I have never actually successfully used one. I tried once, got overwhelmed, and just went and stood on the long line. Never looked back.
	11:01am bk845: Self checkout is faster, and as someone who doesn't like to wait in line, I love it.
	11:01am Chief Guy: The digital revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
	11:02am SheWolf: You're not putting anyone out of work by doing self check out. I like it because it's faster, I can bag as I like and don't have to talk to anyone.
	11:02am Mup Mahoy: There are times when the checkout lines are very long, and the self-check is almost empty. It's a choice. I want it to stay.
	11:02am Robm: @Trouble i don’t use self checkout, trader joes does not have self checkout
	11:02am trubyl: self checkouts are good .if not 30 minute waits..
	11:02am Edison Mausoleum: I like using self checkout at Walmart because it makes it much easier to shoplift
	11:02am Noir Lover: I don't drive or use self checkout! Also produce doesn't have barcodes.
	11:02am Crownless Gander: Self checkout's great for sneaking a few extra items into the bag.
	11:03am bk845: For what it's worth, I use ShopRite mobile scan, so I scan and bag everything as I shop, and then scan a barcode at the register to load the order and pay for it.
	11:03am listener james from westwood: One local supermarket that had scan guns has had "OUT OF ORDER" signs on them for the past few days. I asked the customer service person whether this was a real malfunction or the store/chain taking a brute-force approach to "retail theft," and she admitted it easily could be corporate pettifoggery. This same chain recently expanded their number of self-check lanes, so they're setting folks up for wasting their own time and others' by scanning and bagging full carts of stuff.
	11:03am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:59 Robert Moses is cackling at us from his perch in Hell. These parkways, yeesh. how is it that we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway?
	11:03am Vivian: Self checkout- yes. I'm the type that likes to get what I need and get out. Self checkout lines are usually shorter.
	11:03am Maria D: I hate self checkout so much!! Or at least being forced to use it. Happens a lot at our big grocery chain and can take me 30 minutes to check myself out if buying a lot for my family.
	11:03am Dan S: I'm not fond of self-checkout either. Given a choice of stores with and without, I'll go to one without. Check out the old-school way, I say. BTW, I do think self-checkout has fostered the shoplifting mentality. It's just a small stretch from self-checkout to no-checkout.
	11:03am bk845: What I'm saying is, you can pry ShopRite Mobile Scan from my cold, dead fingers.
	11:04am xtrakrispy: ↳ Song: "the paris match" by "the style council" One of my favorite songs of all time…
	11:04am kevlicki: I refuse the self checkout and when I’ve had to use it someone on staff has to walk me thru it. No creative idea on how to advocate rn, other than going to cashiers What do you think of the Amazon surveillance store? Where you don’t even go to a checkout
	11:04am love2laf: Self checkout is such a multi-faceted horror story. Company doesn't pay employees enough to pay their bills like food and rent. Don't have enough employees, so put in self check-out. Some customer's anger is so high they steal and cheat at self check-out. Companies hire security. Always the customer loses out, and the prices continue to climb. My rant from my wooded world.
	11:04am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @11:00 I will let you know! We just planned our first actual trip -- that is, with an airplane and a hotel and tourist things -- since before the pandemic. Just a few days in New Orleans in Feb. Looking forward to it.
	11:04am Jason from Houston: Got a sale today at the self-checkout: 2 for 1 mustard greens.
	11:04am ongo bongo: i like self checkout--i pay a lot more attention to how much i'm spending, and am more likely to use my own bags
	11:04am Noir Lover: At Target in Brooklyn the self checkout lines are typically 2x longer than human lines.
	11:04am HyperDose: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:01 I love self-checkouts. They're definitely easier for the tech savvy. It's nice to shop and not have to take the headphones off to interact with people shudders
	11:05am sbw: I prefer self-checkout. It helps with my social anxiety!
	11:05am Toothgrinder Tom: It’s interesting to me how older cursive handwriting - like the kind you might see in a note handwritten by an aunt - looks so pretty but mine certainly doesn’t. I tend to print everything.
	11:05am Maulydaft: ↳ love2laf @11:04 YYYYESSSS
	11:05am dreamyandseedy: i contend that the worker who has to oversee 5-10 self-checkout stands works harder than any other cashier because they are constantly going back and forth between the self-checks helping everyone with their self-check problems
	11:05am Selfie guy: Self checkout is how you get Jeff Bezos to provide you with premium cuts of meat for free.
	11:05am Micheal: Thanks for a great show today, Trouble!
	11:06am Listener John from NJ: Don't use them? Make a lot of errors, to slow down the lines. If enough people do this, the store will need more people to "supervise" the self-check-out lines.
	11:06am Crownless Gander: French Style Council! This song was made for Trouble.
	11:06am Faith: I'm conflicted with self-checkout. Morally, I feel wrong potentially taking a job away from someone. Efficiency wise, I love being able to pack my bags exactly the way I want for the best weight distribution and lowest crush factor. Also, not having to constantly tell the cashier what the type of produce I got is. While on the topic, I'll also throw in how insane it is that cashiers have to stand for their shifts! Every other country I travel to the cashiers always get to sit!
	11:06am charles: you're so right. it's slower. AND i love your point that you're not an employee! dunno what we do especially when places like CVS don't give a choice anymore. back to supporting mom & pop stores?
	11:06am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:04 We too are hitting The Big Easy in Feb! Sometime during midwinter recess.
	11:07am xtrakrispy: The problem with self checkouts is all the damn marketing they try to throw into it. Sign up for this, coupons for that, do you want to donate to this, it’s annoying and slows down the process. Also did you put the item in the bag, REPEATEDLY. SO ANNOYING.
	11:07am Robm: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:05 and making sure people don’t do the 5 finger discount
	11:07am Trouble: @ noir lover: exactly the problem! i usually buy only produce, no coded items, so i have to type everything in, and of course that slows down the line. And yes every self checkout lane should be employing a person to check us out instead, so jobs are lost
	11:08am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:04 NOLA also on my long list of destinations. Am sure you'll enjoy it!
	11:08am Philip: late good morn
	11:09am coelacanth∅: 7-8 x now i've gone into lowes, gathered anything from a tube of cement to 9-10 items (sometimes big items) gone up to the self-checkout line and asked the attendant if self-checkout is my only option and when told yes, left my stuff there at the front and walked out. it's a commitment. it's time out of my day and possibly a few dollars more spent at the local hardware store. ...and maybe it will never help.
	11:09am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Robm @11:07 i actually think it's easier to steal in the human-powered checkout line, at least if you bring your own bags.
	11:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @11:06 Hey, same! I think 19-23, get there Mon., get home Fri. We should chat!
	11:10am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @11:08 There are a couple of WFMU listeners there who will provide a warm welcome!
	11:11am Robm: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:09 i never use self checkout too much temptation dreamy and i don’t want to spend time in the greybar hilton
	11:11am JaydiumCrass: Hiyas, Trouble and attendant troublemakers!
	11:12am HyperDose: ↳ Faith @11:06 Weight distribution and crush factor are good points!
	11:12am mark /trubyl: self checkouts are here to stay..welcome to the modern world..soon high speed robots deliver everything to you-- home- in the park-- at the club-at wfmu-all day 247365 at the concerts..before and after sex..at the library..at the beach
	11:12am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:09 Yes, definitely! Our exact dates aren't finalized yet, but will holla.
	11:13am Robm: one more thing before i go back to lurking, don’t go to walmart, they don’t have apple pay and the people at the front of the store are very slow in checking your receipts from shopping
	11:13am Zip7: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:09 Right on, Justified and Ancient Fish!!
	11:13am Listener John from NJ: I have read in the newspapers that some large retailers are considering getting rid of self-checkout lines But no supermarket chains were mentioned. Another anti-self-checkout idea: Break things!
	11:13am Handy Haversack: We always bag our own stuff. That's just part of carrying your own bags, it seems like. I'm not sure NYC grocery stores ever have the clerks bagging. At least not the ones I go to.
	11:13am Dan S: At least with a cashier, if you have a question or a problem, you know there's someone right in front of you to ask. With self-checkout, there might be one store employee for every four machines, trying to deal with multiple problems at once. I have sometimes just stopped the process before paying and walked out, leaving the unpaid stuff there and the store to clean up the mess. I'm talking to you, CVS closest to me.
	11:14am JaydiumCrass: Human check-out lines. I like mixing my own drinks, but the wait for cust svc to approve the ID on selfers is often very cumbersome, not to mention the snafus encountered when the selfer all of a sudden doesn't wanna co-operate.
	11:14am Spankyflop: ↳ Trouble @11:07 Even in the pre-self-checkout era, I hated having to bag my own groceries. There used to pay people who did that too.
	11:14am coelacanth∅: i rarely encounter a cashier that bags my items -as it should be. it has nothing to do with self-checkout.
	11:14am dreamyandseedy: really interesting to me that people with anxiety and/or who don't feel like talking to someone enjoy the self-checkout, i didn't really think about that. where i live we have a LOT of people using curbside grocery pick-up where the employee is in the store shopping for you (which is a whole separate issue because those curbside carts take up a lot of space in the store and blocking the way for actual customers and those employees could be cashiers instead)
	11:15am coelacanth∅: ↳ Zip7 @11:13 hey Zipper!
	11:15am bixa: what is the name of that lux southern grocery store where the people walk your cart to your car for you? anyone been to that?
	11:15am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "boat song" by "lilliput" great, i just got a notification my flight has been delayed by 40 mins. new flight duration, 25 hrs 40 mins... (that must be an error)
	11:15am HyperDose: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:13 And that 10 cent per bag charge adds up over time
	11:15am Trouble: i love to bag my groceries: then i know my soft stuff will not be crushed at the bottom.
	11:15am JaydiumCrass: ↳ northguineahills @11:15 Craaaaaaap
	11:15am Handy Haversack: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:14 Those self-checkout machines WAY trigger my anxiety!
	11:16am Handy Haversack: ↳ northguineahills @11:15 Change of planes in Nome?
	11:16am Edgar from Maine: They have self checkout at the liquor store up here!
	11:16am northguineahills: ↳ Trouble @11:15 i always bag my groceries! (Uncle Micheal's hinky dinky bag makes it easy!(
	11:16am Zip7: ↳ Dan S @11:13 CVS is a horror show. Hellbent on reducing labor costs. And it's the only game in my one-stoplight town
	11:16am Trouble: i also hate the voices of the self checkout, i feel like they are constantly yelling at me.
	11:16am Listener Jonny in MA............. d-_-b: Hiya Trouble! Enjoying my Thursday morning work while listening to music with you. Thanks so much.
	11:16am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:15 that's something you don't need...
	11:17am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:16 it's supposed to be a direct flight.. nome is still better than archangelsk ....
	11:17am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Trouble @11:15 exactly. i never let the store employees bag. they don't care at all, just want to get it done and move along. so oddly, that's an argument in favor of self-check
	11:17am Trouble: great to hear @ listner jonny... welcome aboard!
	11:17am pmcWhenever: online grocery order with pickup outside the market is the best thing since 1970’s home delivery from the local market, this covid inspired innovation, around MA, avoids so many of the in-market probs but it is random and full of unfound and surprise inclusions… later i will be seeing what i get this time while listening to Cage or FMU or FM scan
	11:17am northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:16 i was about to throw away perfectly good decent beer, but now....
	11:18am HyperDose: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:14 Grocery delivery is a game changer. You can get a whole month's worth of grocery shopping done in one day. I imagine the curbside employees are the same ones picking and packing delivery orders too (unless the delivery comes from the main warehouse like Kroger does)
	11:19am Spikey BXL: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 that's a felony in Belgium
	11:19am dreamyandseedy: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:17 same reasoning why i would never ever let an employee choose my groceries for me. i don't want anyone touching my stuff! haha
	11:19am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" Didn't know about this release. Super cool, onto the Bandcamp wishlist it goes!
	11:19am love2laf: ↳ Spikey BXL @11:19 Not just a felony, it's a crime of passion :(
	11:19am Ken From Hyde Park: The Stop & Shop stores in my locale have hand scanners for you and you can scan & bag as you go and hand it to the checkout person and you pay quickly and you're out the door.
	11:20am Dan S: Meanwhile, all the drugstores by me are putting more and more of their stuff behind glass, under lock, so you have to wait for a store employee to unlock it for you just to get the item in your hands! But then, you have to check yourself out without assistance! I call it the worst of both worlds.
	11:20am Listener John from NJ: ↳ bixa @11:15 Is it Publix? They ask if you wanna have them load your car.
	11:20am JaydiumCrass: I don't necessarily have an issue with how employees bag my stuff, as I believe at least for myself that a mashed hot dog bun, for example, isn't going to thoroughly destroy my day. Having the option of self-bag islands at the store I used to shop at, though, definitely helped for that to happen with a lot less frequency.
	11:20am Spikey BXL: ↳ love2laf @11:19 But the passion cannot be used as an extenuating circumstance
	11:21am trubyl/mark: you're right about the voices..side hustle voice over trubyl voice nationwide20 million$ contract
	11:21am Handy Haversack: ↳ HyperDose @11:18 We had to get groceries delivered once or twice when we had COVID, and I hated it. Never again, inshallah. Going to places in my neighborhood and interacting with people helps ground me. I do not think that every process in our lives needs to be optimized. And I certainly don't think that more trucks are helping anyone. I mean, all these errands kind of suck now without the dog. But keeping that neighborhood connection is important.
	11:22am dreamyandseedy: ↳ HyperDose @11:18 i get that people are busy and going to the store is a "chore" but why should it be a chore? when did it become a chore? i feel like it used to be fun. was it ever fun? i try not to make my weekly visit a chore, i try to enjoy it lol. but i also don't live in a big city, my trip to the store is usually the one time i go out into "town" and like, see people and things.
	11:22am northguineahills: ok, i just got an update, it will not be a 25 hour flight, it was just a bug. i'm going to now lie dow on the floor, w/ an imaginary paper bag, and just hyperventilate... (i'll be back once i'm conscious again...)
	11:22am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Trouble @11:16 Yeah they REALLY want you to "please take your items."
	11:22am coelacanth∅: the store i do most of my grocery shopping has no self-checkout. the cashier typically does not bag my items but there're 1-2 people on busy days dividing their attentions between the registers, bagging when needed or desired. they also have lower prices than the giant shiny store across the street with 8 self-checkout registers. i think one's a grocery store while the other is a pig factory.
	11:22am Listener Jonny in MA............. d-_-b: ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" noice
	11:23am northguineahills: ↳ Listener John from NJ @11:20 no more florida grocery talk here (publix dominates the floridascape, and they're not bad).
	11:24am HyperDose: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:21 Definitely more options in the city. As someone who doesn't drive and doesn't always have an affordable grocery store within walking distance, the delivery option is great. Keeps me cooking which is cheaper and healthier than eating out.
	11:24am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:22 Breathe NGH, breathe. You know you've got this, your dream coming true because of your hard work, and your persistence. In the home stretch now and rounding for home :)
	11:25am Dan S: One last thing: I often prefer to pay with cash, but only two of the four self-checkout machines at my nearest CVS will take cash. The other two are cards only. They know we are less likely to restrain our spending when using a card! OK, enough ranting for one morning.
	11:25am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" do tim gane and laetitia sadiar do anything wrong (duophonic is their label)
	11:25am Zip7: One of the big issues we fought back in community organizing days was supermarket chains moving near-expiration date goods to stores on "the other side of the tracks."
	11:26am SheWolf: ↳ Noir Lover @11:04 Same at the large Target by me and there is now a sign indicating that self check out is for 10 items and under and presumably they have added more cashiers.
	11:26am Handy Haversack: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:22 I'm with you, dreamyandseedy. I think I'll go to be local bookstore and spend too much money this afternoon.
	11:26am coelacanth∅: people who get anxiety talking to other people (or just don't want to - which means they get anxiety over it) need to talk to other people. self-checkout is enabling them to sink deeper into their self-centered isolation.
	11:27am melinda: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:26 Agree
	11:27am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @11:24 thank you. i've got this. my friend is picking me up, and i'm going to be sleep deprived and possibly intoxicated...... scratch that... not drinking until i get there.....(goes to yerba mate)
	11:28am JaydiumCrass: ↳ northguineahills @11:27 Good deal! Take er easy and hopin everything is up from here!
	11:29am SheWolf: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:26 I can talk to people or not. When I don't feel like it I just don't feel like it. Nothing to do with anxiety. Methinks you're over thinking, which is often related to anxiety.
	11:29am melinda: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:22 I feel the same way. I'm an introvert but I want to interact with people when I buy my groceries, it might be the only time I talk to someone that day.
	11:29am northguineahills: ↳ JaydiumCrass @11:28 i appreciate it. it means a lot!
	11:30am Edgar from Maine: I'll stand in line for a human checker even if the self-checkout is available. I like the interaction even if they're surly.
	11:30am steveo: *especially if they're surly
	11:30am Handy Haversack: ↳ northguineahills @11:27 You got this. Ain't nothin' gonna to break your stride Nobody gonna slow you down, oh no.
	11:30am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" Wow this was good.
	11:31am dreamyandseedy: i have one last thing also: being a cashier is one of the worst jobs ever. at least in my experience. you are paid minimum wage or barely more and you are, more often than not, treated like garbage by the customers. it is truly a soul-sucking job (it was for me). and i think there's an issue here of the grocery store employees doing their job to the bare minimum of their ability bc that's all they are getting paid to do and they are not treated with respect by the company or the customers. so i will absolutely hate on them for not doing their job but i see the other side of it as well... the whole thing is a mess! i dunno what to do except be nice to them and do what i can to make my little trip there painless
	11:31am steveo: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @11:30 so good
	11:32am coelacanth∅: ↳ SheWolf @11:29 haha, well i'm referring to people who never want to talk to other people; and of course it's a broad generalization. ...and i DO have anxiety -plenty and for good reason...but not about talking with other people!
	11:33am coelacanth∅: ↳ Edgar from Maine @11:30 agreed
	11:34am StringOFperils: I like to be nice to check-out people also. Not a great place to be stuck, as much as it does provide employment for folks, who for one reason or another, can't access something better yet. Except for the replacement of said employment by machines, self-checkouts seem like a mercy
	11:34am love2laf: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:31 "I'm not afraid of hell, I've worked retail." The good customers make the day easier and better. You learn to roll with the nasty customers, and how to handle them, and often de-escalate their behaviour. Not all the time, but some of the time. Establishing a relationship with all of the customers, builds a better workplace. Worked retail for most of my life.
	11:34am melinda: My hate for self-checkout is a soft hate
	11:36am PMD: I head her say check out, and thought that with so much controversy that you all were talking about the right to end your own life. Then I come here and we are in the supermarket.
	11:37am Handy Haversack: ↳ PMD @11:36 Better? Or worse?
	11:37am love2laf: ↳ PMD @11:36 Damn it, that is a banger of a spit take!
	11:37am dreamyandseedy: ↳ love2laf @11:34 i never learned that lol i just don't have that mental ability, i have too thin a skin. the people who can thrive (or survive) in that environment have got something i would like to bottle!
	11:38am PMD: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:37 Different!
	11:38am PMD: ↳ love2laf @11:37 Learned a new phrase thanks!
	11:39am Trouble: rosemary tonks: "the bloater", "the halt during the chase" are the two i have read so far: super!!
	11:39am dday: Not being 100% sure my covid is gone & wearing a mask, the self checkout for an item or two seems a bit safer from a medical standpoint for me right now. No human interaction from me or anyone else. As for the "touch spread" aspect of covid or any of the myriad of respiratory diseases currently going around, I have kept a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol & paper towels in my car since late 2019 & also surgical gloves.
	11:40am coelacanth∅: my hate for self-checkout is a hard hate, not quite as seething as that for self-driving vehicles and drones but it's obviously a bad thing for humans in general.
	11:42am love2laf: Must away from accu, so thanking you early Trouble for the amazing music, and provocative question of the day. Thanks for the chat and company accu friends, keep an eye on NGH, don't let him forget his paper bag for hyperventilating treatment.
	11:42am StringOFperils: Defy self checkout terminals. Demand the impossible!
	11:43am coelacanth∅: ↳ PMD @11:36 i will now use "self-checkout" in it's new and better context! sometimes it's the reasonable thing.
	11:46am bixa: this song makes me feel like i'm in stardew valley
	11:47am HyperDose: ↳ bixa @11:46 I love that soundtrack
	11:47am Edgar from Maine: Gratitude to Trouble for this scrumptious set today! Thank you and the team.
	11:47am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "eight wave" by "suzanne ciani" I love how I can tell a Ciani piece...
	11:49am melinda: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:40 That's justified
	11:51am pmcWhenever: Out of Stock Annie's Chicken & Pasta Soup Gluten Free - EA 0 of 4 Get ready for your Pickup: For the fastest pickup experience, enable location services and set pickup preferences in our app. On your pickup day, look for a notification to open the app when you're on your way, and keep it open until you receive your order. When you arrive, look for the signs marking the designated pickup area. Once parked, just relax and stay in your vehicle and we'll bring your order out quickly. We'll tell you about any substitutions, and you can remove them from your order if you wish. We appreciate your thoughtfulness, but associates are not permitted to accept tips. Thanks for understanding. Have questions? We've got answers. *** real in-person is generally the best but not always the best option, these days…21stC dayz
	11:52am bixa: ↳ Listener John from NJ @11:20 YES publix
	11:53am bradford: Many thanks, Trouble.
	11:53am StringOFperils: Thanks for hosting, Trouble. In lieu of actual chicken soup, this has been alright. This lingering Covid, however, sucks.
	11:53am Jason from Houston: Many thanks, Trouble. See y'all at the grocery store!!!
	11:53am ami ad: Thank you, DJ. Crew.
	11:54am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 danks, mang!
	11:54am Handy Haversack: Thanks, Trouble! Stay Troubled, all. Just, you know, don't write it down unless you can read it later.
	11:55am Dan S: Happy New Year, Trouble and other Modernists! Until next week!
	11:56am Handy Haversack: Dang, didn't realize Dave Dichelle was away again.
	11:56am Chris Hiatt: Thanks, DJ Trouble! So glad for the soundtrack while we figured everything out today.
	11:56am Trouble: thanks for tuning in today and being part of my supermarket research team. see you next week!
	11:56am Ochre Ogre: Thanks Trouble!
	11:57am steveo: thanks, Trouble! wonderful to have tuned in today!
	11:58am Handy Haversack: Happy trails, ngh!
	11:58am listener james from westwood: Thanks, Trouble!
	12:00pm dreamyandseedy: thanks Trouble!
	12:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Have a nice weekend (avoiding snow if you can).
	12:00pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): Lovely show, Trouble! TY!
	12:01pm Fishman: Greetings fellow Hookers

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 4, 2024

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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January 4, 2024: and there you were, smiling back at me

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by william scott, 1947

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	New	Approx. start time
Mary Lattimore & Mac McCaughan	II	new rain duets				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
umm kuthum	leih ya zaman "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum"	Wedad (OST)				0:10:10 (Pop-up)
nubar bey & ibrahim bey	hicazkar pesrev	To Scratch Your Heart: Early Recordings from Istanbul v/a	Honest Jons Records			0:17:07 (Pop-up)
lee hazelwood	no train to stockholm	cowboy in sweden				0:20:50 (Pop-up)
umeko ando	saranpe "saranpe" by "umeko ando"	upopo sanke	pingipung		*	0:23:45 (Pop-up)
Will Epstein	will the morning come	wendy	fat possum			0:27:57 (Pop-up)

nina simone	i love you porgy "i love you porgy" by "nina simone"					0:39:08 (Pop-up)
robert wyatt	maryan "maryan" by "robert wyatt"	shleep				0:43:10 (Pop-up)
Belver yin	eschuchar el pasado "eschuchar el pasado" by "Belver yin"	Para Mi Madre	efficient space		*	0:49:03 (Pop-up)
greg foat & gigi masin	sabena "sabena" by "greg foat & gigi masin"	dolphin	strut			0:53:57 (Pop-up)

dusty springfield	wasn't born to follow	come for a dream: the UK sessions 1970-71				1:08:00 (Pop-up)
melanie charles	woman of the ghetto ( reimagined)	Y’all Don’t (Really) Care About Black Women				1:11:15 (Pop-up)
count indigo	trinity "trinity" by "count indigo"	tricatel XX v/a	tricatel			1:16:08 (Pop-up)
the congos	the wrong thing "the wrong thing" by "the congos"	heart of the congos				1:20:00 (Pop-up)
della humphrey	dream land "dream land" by "della humphrey"			7"		1:25:44 (Pop-up)
general lee	pleasure "pleasure" by "general lee"	mr bongo record club 6 v/a				1:28:01 (Pop-up)
dj dolores	de dar do "de dar do" by "dj dolores"	Aparelhagem				1:32:11 (Pop-up)
akiko yano	onnatachiyo otokotachiyo	ai ga nakucha ne				1:36:08 (Pop-up)
Tito Puente's Orchestra	TP's Shing-a-ling	Hit the Bongo! The Latin Soul of Tico Records	craft recordings			1:39:58 (Pop-up)
Sun Ra Arkestra	queer notions "queer notions" by "Sun Ra Arkestra"	"swirling"	strut			1:42:23 (Pop-up)
simone dina	now i lay me down to weep	popcorn girls v/a				1:48:21 (Pop-up)
thelonious monk	Memories of You "Memories of You" by "thelonious monk"	The Unique Thelonious Monk				1:51:42 (Pop-up)

the style council	the paris match	introducing				2:02:25 (Pop-up)
delia meshir	your shadows "your shadows" by "delia meshir"	bring back the light	ba da bing!		*
lilliput	boat song "boat song" by "lilliput"	Senza Decoro: Liebe + Anarchia / Switzerland 1980-1990	strut		*	2:10:32 (Pop-up)
ghost power	astral melancholy suite	ghost power	duophonic super 45's		*	2:13:56 (Pop-up)
Les McCann	i've been thinking about my problems	river high, river low				2:29:00 (Pop-up)

SPAZA	solomon Tsietsi Khotso "solomon Tsietsi Khotso" by "SPAZA"	Uprize!				2:37:46 (Pop-up)
suzanne ciani	eight wave "eight wave" by "suzanne ciani"	Lixiviation 1969-1985				2:43:44 (Pop-up)
Trembling Blue Stars	saffron, beautiful and brown-eyed	her handwriting				2:48:43 (Pop-up)
once	joanna "joanna" by "once"	skygirl v/a				2:51:34 (Pop-up)
anadol	yapilacak kadin "yapilacak kadin" by "anadol"	Hatiralar	pingipung		*	2:54:47 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:56am Webhamster Henry: This is the 2024 World!
	9:00am bradford: Good morning Trouble & greetings to all.
	9:00am Robm: good morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:01am Andrea C: Hi Trouble, just want to wish you Happy New Year! Unfortunately there is only so much time in a day and I have to study! Bye :)
	9:01am Handy Haversack: Gray Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all!
	9:02am steveo: harp the herald angels?
	9:02am love2laf: Happy New Year to you Trouble, hope you had a marvelous time. Hello Troubled friends, happy new year to you all. Happy studying Andrea C.
	9:03am Edgar from Maine: /tips hat
	9:03am northguineahills: ↳ steveo @9:02 stealing that!
	9:04am Listener Bryan (the Professor): good morning, trouble & all troubled modern lovers
	9:04am βrian: From anxiety dreams to Trouble. What a relief!
	9:04am steveo: ↳ northguineahills @9:03 www.discogs.com...
	9:05am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @9:03 howdy again NGH howdy again L2L
	9:05am northguineahills: ↳ steveo @9:04 beautiful!
	9:05am northguineahills: ↳ Robm @9:05 howdies!
	9:06am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:01 i'm soaking some beans for navajo tacos tonight. we were supposed to have record club at our place but had to cancel due to the 'rona. But I'm gonna let C have his hand at fry bread tonight and see how it goes as a trial run. it's been a while since i made some.
	9:06am Charles in Chicago: This is nice music. (But of course it's nice music, it's Thursday morning!)
	9:07am common: hello, trouble! everyone
	9:07am Trouble: good morning 2024 thursday land!
	9:07am ami ad: Hello DJ. Hello all.
	9:09am HyperDose: ↳ Song: "II" by "Mary Lattimore & Mac McCaughan" So gentle. Like a feather
	9:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:06 And now I'm hungry again.
	9:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ ami ad @9:07 Hey, ami ad.
	9:09am tom tom the pipers son: good morning dj trouble and people...
	9:10am Charles in Chicago: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:06 I associate Navajo tacos with driving across the Southwestern US, never had them east of Texas
	9:13am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Charles in Chicago @9:10 yes, they were a staple in northern AZ when i was a kid. every boy scout fundraising dinner etc.
	9:13am Chris Hiatt: Mornin', y'all. Happy to be listening in.
	9:14am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum" what a voice
	9:14am Edgar from Maine: I've been to Arizona a gazillion times and have yet to have a Navajo taco. Now I know what's on the menu for the next trip.
	9:14am Eran: One thing every Jordanian seemed to agree on: Um Kalthum was evening listening and Feyruz was for mornings.
	9:14am Vanessa bikes: Good morning Trouble, we have free tickets for out of bounds tomorrow! happy new year.
	9:14am love2laf: ↳ Robm @9:05 It's like you never left, just seamlessly glided from Wake to Modern in a smooth sidestep.
	9:15am BillyLundun: ↳ Song: "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum" Loving this today!
	9:15am tom tom the pipers son: the william scott image, reminding me of an un-cosmopolitan alex katz
	9:15am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Edgar from Maine @9:14 i've never eaten them in a restaurant so i wouldn't even know where to look, but i imagine you can find them at roadside places across the old Rte 66 or on the res.
	9:16am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and fliers. Happy 2024!
	9:16am steveo: ↳ northguineahills @9:05 sort a pain though, because i noticed that the title was transcribed wrong and submitted a correction on the discogs site, which took a few minutes; ah the tribulations of being a fussbudget
	9:17am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:14 was lurking during wake because i did not want to go over 20 posts and incur the wrath of ken
	9:17am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:09 these don't happen as often as they used to bc friends live primarily upstate now but we'll have to get you and k8 out to one of these sometime. www.recordclub.org
	9:17am ami ad: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:09 Morning.
	9:18am Spikey BXL: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:06 Record club hosted by you sounds like something else!
	9:19am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:17 That would be lovely.
	9:19am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Spikey BXL @9:18 i'm a relative latecomer (2004). it's a great thing. i wish it still happened every month.
	9:19am rx "rexy" scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	9:20am melinda: Morning friends
	9:22am Listener Bryan (the Professor): Trouble, you're really making me homesick for the Gulf this morning.
	9:23am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" Sounds like Lee has played Fury of Dracula. "What do you mean there's no rail connection between Hamburg and Amsterdam?! He's getting away!!"
	9:23am Sera from Rockaway: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" Gosh I love Lee Hazelwood. Hi Trouble, HNY
	9:23am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" comboy in sweden movie is a hoot...hazelwood on horseback riding down ramp off the back of a plane
	9:23am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "no train to stockholm" by "lee hazelwood" Back when folks used the timpani in country music.
	9:24am Carmen: Good morning Trouble and to all my fellow listeners from Oregon
	9:24am StringOFperils: ↳ Chris Hiatt @9:23 Back when independence didn't come with a Facebook group.
	9:26am love2laf: ↳ Song: "saranpe" by "umeko ando" Always remarkable the crossover clicky stars between Trouble and Olivia. Two very different DJ shows, and yet, so much music in common :)
	9:34am northguineahills: i can never get the hang of thursdays...
	9:36am steveo: ↳ Song: "leih ya zaman" by "umm kuthum" it would seem that the original spelling is أم كلثوم
	9:36am Handy Haversack: I'm Steve McQueen. I'm burning clean.
	9:36am Rev. Turnip Druid: haven't seen that film in ages but remember digging very much
	9:38am Rev. Turnip Druid: ^ meaning the McQueen/Wood film
	9:39am northguineahills: so, happy i'm leaving this desatanfied state (apologies to allusions to satan).
	9:39am northguineahills: i've seen the later film!
	9:39am Handy Haversack: Waiting to see if Rev. Turnip Druid turns out to be a big Father Goose fan ...
	9:40am P-90: “…love and relationships” uh-oh…
	9:40am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:36 ok, i'm taking you to the next open mic nite, this is your warning! 😁
	9:41am mark denver: just looked up my kanopy ..have father goose not the McQueen Natalie wood great choice Nina simone!!
	9:42am tom tom the pipers son: seemed there were a few movies with hollywood veteran actors inheriting large groups of children... wonder why....?
	9:43am mark: have to get it from denver public library..that's where I just got davud suisman latest book capitalism and the senses!!
	9:44am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "maryan" by "robert wyatt" perfect. second wyatt of the morning!
	9:45am mark denver: looking forward to poor things and the zone of interest
	9:46am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "maryan" by "robert wyatt" Very cool. That vocal line was almost prog adjacent, reminded me of Hatfield and the North.
	9:48am mark: good coffee laundry and trouble ..not bad way to start the day
	9:48am tom tom the pipers son: manzanera prolly on guitar
	9:49am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @9:39 you mean the fundamentalist republic of florida
	9:53am pp: I feel it is very Felt-like
	9:54am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "eschuchar el pasado" by "Belver yin" lovely. almost Durutti Column territory. Trouble, do you know the trumpet player Amir Elsaffar? I think he's right up your alley. www.amirelsaffar.com
	9:55am The Oscar: ↳ mark denver @9:45 Both are excellent! Poor Things is a lot of fun; Zone decidedly less so, but still pretty astounding. My review of Poor Things, if you're interested (I'll be covering Zone when it opens up here next week): bostonhassle.com...
	9:58am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:54 Amir is so talented. I ran in the old Bloomington music scene with his sister, Dena. They both perform in the Rivers of Sound Orchestra, excellent music.
	9:58am tom tom the pipers son: wyatt adjacent...if anyone not familiar with phil manzanera album diamond head, go there if only for the eno song "miss shapiro"
	9:58am Trouble: @ listener bryan: sounds familiar but not sure. i will check him out. merci!
	9:59am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Chris Hiatt @9:58 I saw him a couple times in Abu Dhabi and once here, when he played with his old teacher (what a night!). He's so good.
	9:59am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Trouble @9:58 I checked the artist search after I asked and see that he's been on Irene, Destination: OUT, Transpacific SP, but not Modern World. I think you'll like him!
	10:01am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "sabena" by "greg foat & gigi masin" Late to the party. This is gorgeous! Happy new year, all. I think we're allowed to say that till like the 7th, right?
	10:02am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Chris Hiatt @9:58 First time I saw him in AD (2016?) was with the large version of Rivers of Sound Orchestra. So good.
	10:04am Toothgrinder Tom: I’ve seen ‘Father Goose’ (I may even own the dvd for some reason) but I don’t remember much about it.
	10:04am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Trouble @9:58 xoxo
	10:04am mark: the oscar thanks check out richard Brody review of maestro..destroyed it
	10:05am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:02 Nice. I got to see them at Pioneer Works a few years back, they blew the roof off the joint.
	10:07am alan the painter: Yes! what happened to 'Greeneys'!
	10:08am Handy Haversack: My handwriting, never good, has become so atrocious. And I write kind of a lot, at least for this day and age.
	10:08am Edgar from Maine: Cursive was a relic of the time when fountain pens worked best when not lifted from the paper. Today, it's a way adults can send secure handwritten messages that children can't read.
	10:08am Crownless Gander: Agreed! Writing one's thoughts creates a flow completely unlike typing. Even printing doesn't really do it.
	10:09am captain beef fart: My handwriting is so bad having to whiteboard stuff at work gives me the heebie-jeebies.
	10:09am melinda: I enjoy writing, it's drawing letters.
	10:09am Crownless Gander: (And my handwriting is also terrible, but at least I know how to do it, in theory.)
	10:10am melinda: ↳ Song: "wasn't born to follow" by "dusty springfield" I know this from my CD of The City, Carole King's group.
	10:10am common: ↳ melinda @10:09 agreed
	10:10am Trouble: education theory says that writing down notes in class secures the info in your mind more than simply typing into a laptop. something about the use of multiple thought patterns to create the letters
	10:11am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:08 Yeah, the mini struggles to read cursive, and she's normally an excellent reader.
	10:11am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "wasn't born to follow" by "dusty springfield" I keep hearing Cohen's "Suzanne" beneath this.
	10:11am Trouble: yes! @ edgar!!
	10:11am captain beef fart: ↳ Trouble @10:10 But now we have "virtual assistants" to do it for us! ;)
	10:12am Juli: One more day till party nights
	10:13am Edgar from Maine: Handwriting is fun, unique and beautiful. Added bonus is margin doodles!
	10:13am Juli: I love my cursive It’s gotten better
	10:14am StringOFperils: ↳ Trouble @10:10 For that reason, I would relate the motor-skills of drawing to cursive handrotor. With the development and exercise of these skills, a person can conceive of things independently and bring them into reality in ways that are not passive. These are leadership skills.
	10:15am mark: trouble please a little story how you kicked the nuns in the shins
	10:15am Chris: drove up from Philly for cd fair Saturday. Got to meet Matt and buy about 75 cd’s. Highly irresponsible! 🥺
	10:16am Robm: ↳ Juli @10:12 yeah juli, don’t party too much:)
	10:16am Edgar from Maine: ↳ Chris Hiatt @10:11 I can 'read' cyrillic in the sense that I know how to sound out the letters but not the cursive version of cyrillic—no idea what's going on there. Empathy!
	10:17am northguineahills: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:16 the ukraine war has made me able to phonetically read the cyrillic alphabet...
	10:17am Dan S: My handwriting is so bad, even I can hardly read it. Also, I'm a hunt-and-peck typist. Why won't they put those letter keys in alphabetical order? LOL
	10:18am Webhamster Henry: ↳ northguineahills @10:17 Cyrillic cursive isn't super bad, but to really encode something in a Western language, and curse at cursive, try Kurrentschrift in German .
	10:19am northguineahills: ↳ Webhamster Henry @10:18 most germans can't use it today...
	10:19am Trouble: i took intensive russian in the 80's and there was no other way to do it besides write out the letters. and then they were different from what was printed in our books...
	10:20am Edgar from Maine: ↳ Webhamster Henry @10:18 Good heavens that looks horrid.
	10:20am love2laf: My printing was always atrocious, and cursive was equally awful. Grade 3 teacher decreed that all my homework must be typed. At this point with hand disabilities I'd be lost without typing messages, lists, etc.
	10:20am Zip7: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:13 One of the most surprising things I've found from working with incarcerated folks is how many of them have exquisite handwriting. A number have had relatively little exposure to keyboards.
	10:21am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "the wrong thing" by "the congos" one of my fave albums of all time...
	10:22am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:20 I translated a letter my great grandfather wrote in it that also had the disadvantage of spelling errors...
	10:22am Edgar from Maine: ↳ Zip7 @10:20 This is a fascinating topic! Incarcerated people aren't as polluted by screens and gizmos as 'free' people are.
	10:22am Jason from Houston: ↳ Song: "the wrong thing" by "the congos" Muchly here for this.
	10:22am Spikey BXL: I started using a fountain pen and notebook again a couple of years ago, to not let my handwriting go the way of the dodo
	10:22am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:20 you have arthritis Love?
	10:22am StringOFperils: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:22 Yet they ARE on screen always.
	10:22am northguineahills: ↳ Webhamster Henry @10:22 crap, everything i right today has speling errors! 😉
	10:24am jinjabredboy: ↳ northguineahills @10:21 I'll second that
	10:24am Edgar from Maine: ↳ StringOFperils @10:22 Gah! Is NO place sacred??
	10:24am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:22 Spikey! More good news to make me jealous! Slift is playing in Brussels in March! Face-meltingly great heavy-psych. Stand in front of the bass player (right side as you face the stage), and see if your face doesn't melt off! Just see! MONDAY 18 MARCH 7:00 PM Brussels, Belgium Ancienne Belgique (AB)
	10:24am love2laf: ↳ Robm @10:22 Not as of last check up, I'm an odd duck who has many cysts, makes it difficult to even hold a pen. Modern keyboards require only the lightest of touches.
	10:24am HyperDose: ↳ northguineahills @10:22 How are you getting to NY? Plane, train, automobile?
	10:24am Karl: ↳ Song: "the wrong thing" by "the congos" Trouble have you heard the 2 Bears song “Heart of the Congos”? It’s their ode to this record. m.youtube.com...
	10:25am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @10:20 as mentioned before, i was switched from being left-handed in kindergarten, and by penmanship was so atrocious, my teachers made me type all of my homework.. (yeah, i technically can still write, but, it's slow...)
	10:25am Trouble: @ karl: will look that up! gracias
	10:25am Dan S: ↳ love2laf @10:20 I didn't do any typewritten school assignments until I got to high school, when some teachers started requiring it. I remember my first typewriter, a manual portable. A Royal, I think. It got me through my college years, too.
	10:26am northguineahills: ↳ HyperDose @10:24 plane.... and omg, wtah am i doing (i'm fine, the wfmu fam is keeping me calm...) 5 hours to go...
	10:26am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:24 Cheers Handy. Saw them at Roadburn in 2022. It was impressive but not totally my thing, so I will give them a pass. Esp. with three shows in the week leading up to it. Ancienne Belgique a superb venue though.
	10:27am Edgar from Maine: ↳ northguineahills @10:25 My younger bros 1st grade teacher forced him to write with his right hand and he wrote everything in mirror image!
	10:27am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:26 OK, but maybe swing by the venue with a big sign that says "Handy says come back to Brooklyn!"?
	10:28am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:24 gotcha thanks
	10:28am Zip7: ↳ HyperDose @10:24 Someone referred to I-95 from DC to Boston as "The Corridor of Hatred" based on the driving styles -- the "Jersey Slide" of crossing three lanes to an exit in about 100 yards as a prime example
	10:28am dday: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 Even though flying has become somewhat of a pain in the ass (TSA etc.) It beats driving especially in winter months. I used to fly all over in the mid 90's . You could get to the gate 15 mins before boarding & get on your flight no problem. No more
	10:28am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 glad we are doing that for you
	10:29am bixa: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 has anyone else noticed maryland drivers like to go slow in the left lane?
	10:30am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:27 Ha! I'll try. Last time a message was posted outside the AB for a long time, it read: "Welcome to hellhole". After how cheeto POTUS had referred to our beautiful capital.
	10:30am StringOFperils: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 Finish packing and get to that airport, ngh!
	10:30am Robm: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 known in some places as the jersey slide
	10:30am HyperDose: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 The "Jersey slide" from the left lane is a very real thing!
	10:31am northguineahills: ↳ Edgar from Maine @10:27 i'm not that talented, but i know people that are...
	10:32am Phillippe: good morning all!
	10:32am Robm: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:30 unfortunately he might get elected again
	10:32am dday: ↳ bixa @10:29 It's funny how every state says that about drivers from another state. PA drivers get slammed from Jersey people all the time with that & yet whenver I drive in NJ (and I'm from there originnaly & spent years & many many miles on the road working there) I find NJ drivers to be among the worst offenders. Boston area close second, Baltimore/DC corridor on par with the other two :) People just need to have some patience
	10:33am Trouble: OMG: i love that, 'the jersey slide'. perfect description of some serious stupid drivig
	10:33am HyperDose: ↳ northguineahills @10:26 A 2hr flight is nothing. You'll be there before you know it!
	10:33am Spikey BXL: ↳ Robm @10:32 the idea makes my stomach turn
	10:33am sinners rejoice!: ↳ Song: "de dar do" by "dj dolores" very nice! thank you
	10:34am Robm: ↳ dday @10:32 dday and they all move to florida where driving can get interesting at times
	10:34am northguineahills: ↳ dday @10:28 it's the random surcharges these days. and i've spent many nights in airports on the floor due to 'acts of god'. i don't mind the actual flying, it's the process. once I'm there, and the person is there to pick me up. i'll relax....
	10:34am Karl: ↳ Trouble @10:33 I learned this term from the Titus Andronicus song “A More Perfect Union”
	10:34am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "de dar do" by "dj dolores" digging this, trouble!
	10:34am Robm: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:33 mine too in so many ways with this assclown
	10:34am dday: ↳ Robm @10:34 Oh my yes. My brother lived in Sunrise for quite awhile & when I visited I got to see it first hand.
	10:35am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ dday @10:32 I learned a move in Jersey in the late 80s that was described as the "Jersey Juke": You pull into the right hand turn lane just before a light goes green and then blast through the light straight ahead, shortcutting the line of cars stopped for the light.
	10:36am Robm: ↳ dday @10:34 and there is traffic 24 hours a day
	10:36am sinner's rejoice!: music from '00s bring sunshine!
	10:36am dday: ↳ northguineahills @10:34 breathe deep, you'll be back in NYC in no time. :) I'd insert the Genesis song here (Back in NYC) but I'm not signed in so the link won't be active
	10:36am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:35 Selection bias is a thing, but I tend to notice in Brooklyn that whenever my attention is caught by someone pulling an absolute bonehead, pedestrian-killer move on the roads, the license plate tends to be NJ (or PA ...).
	10:36am bixa: ↳ dday @10:32 ive heard there's a lot of exits on the left in dc which informs my maryland theory... poor jersey, the way roads are designed do not encourage ppl to be in a good mood while driving
	10:37am dday: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:35 Oh yeah seen that plenty
	10:37am Zip7: ↳ northguineahills @10:34 I remember being terrified when I first noticed the tiny hole in the airplane window. I thought it was placed there to suck my soul out the window when airborne,
	10:37am sinner's rejoice!: or should I say, early aights!
	10:37am Karl: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:36 Unrelated, I am circling your block right now, and have been for days
	10:37am HyperDose: ↳ bixa @10:36 The lack of infrastructure upkeep is a major issue too
	10:38am Robm: ↳ Zip7 @10:37 now NGH is not gonna want to fly
	10:38am dday: ↳ bixa @10:36 Yes there are. Rt 22 as you get closer to Newark in NJ is like that. Very dangerous. I've known several killed on it
	10:38am Handy Haversack: ↳ Karl @10:37 Roll down the window -- I'll throw pizza!
	10:39am Phillippe: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 I'm from Annapolis MD, witness to (and willing participant in) the insane driving around here. I was in the Charleston SC area and had a hard time adjusting to being around drivers doing the speed limit, using their turn signals, etc. The police presence down there had a lot to do with it, I think. MD cops have always been lax but since Covid, they pull over even less people. I can't recall the last time I saw a speed trap here.
	10:39am Robm: ↳ dday @10:38 i don’t go on us 22 unless i have too
	10:39am dday: ↳ Robm @10:38 Just keep looking out on the wing for that little hairy guy Shatner saw :)
	10:39am time is fleeting: can find spare tires on the road, broken furniture.. be careful
	10:40am Robm: ↳ dday @10:39 that was one screwed up movie dday
	10:42am bixa: ↳ Phillippe @10:39 ohhh yeah, i lived in souteastern TN for a while and there were speed traps everywehre, even in the middle of nowhere
	10:42am time is fleeting: rt 22 very dangerous, things fall off of trucks and stay on the road for a while
	10:43am Handy Haversack: Of course, the most dangerous drivers in NYC are the cops.
	10:44am Edgar from Maine: Maine drivers aren't too bad if you don't see the Allen's Coffee Brandy bottles being tossed out the window. We look out for the MA plates and proceed cautiously around them.
	10:45am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:43 Sorry, AND KARL.
	10:46am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:43 This might be because a lot of 'em live in Nassau and Suffolk Counties. The most dangerous drivers in the solar system are from those counties.
	10:47am mark/trubble: saw sun ra few times in NYC back in the day. talked to him about the cosmos...funny guy
	10:47am Phillippe: ↳ time is fleeting @10:42 I have the "be the second fastest car" mentality when I'm on the road and let the fastest car serve as the radar detector. I drive 5-15 MPH over the limit all of the time, and haven't had a speeding ticket since I was 17. Not bragging, it's just an indication of how lax things are around here.
	10:47am Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @10:46 We might be in a real chicken-or-egg-type deal here.
	10:47am StringOFperils: Toronto's a bit like that at times too. Extremely high-speed pursuit right through crowded streets and urban neighbourhoods. I once saw an Interceptor that didn't make it, tucked neatly beneath the rear end of a city streetcar (approx 70 tonnes). It was about 24 inches long from front grill to rear-bumper. Totally accordioned and welded under that behemoth. That cop must've been flying.
	10:48am bixa: ↳ Phillippe @10:47 my friend's dad always says (as if he's the state trooper) "Over 5 you're five, over 10 you're mine"
	10:49am northguineahills: ↳ dday @10:36 ( a certain wfmu dj played that last night, and lultzed!)
	10:50am mark: simone Dina pretty vocal
	10:51am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "now i lay me down to weep" by "simone dina" I'm still not 100% sure how to define popcorn, but I love it every time I hear it.
	10:51am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ dday @10:37 I don't know if the name is widespread. The people who taught it to me (and who took pride in their ability to make that move) were not Jersey natives, I confess. But they had enthusiastically adapted to the driving.
	10:51am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:35 Oh that's what they call it! Happens on Church Ave here in Kenzo on the reg.
	10:51am mark: finally!! thanks trubyl
	10:52am Peter in SEA: Bonjour Trouble and listeners! LOVE William Scott and that whole St. Ives crowd! Beautiful painting on the playlist page :-) And this Monk pretty rad too!
	10:53am mark: was talking bout seeing him in80 81 have to contact tmonk jr
	10:53am Trouble: bonjour @ peter!
	10:54am mark: have to set up turntable so forgetful/ lazy
	10:54am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "Memories of You" by "thelonious monk" Never heard this Monk before! I love it when he plays standards.
	10:54am Phillippe: ↳ bixa @10:48 Ya, I think that's pretty accurate here on surface streets. all bets are off on the expressways. The State police on the DOT side will pull trucks over with vigor for the slightest thing, but passenger cars get a free reign. My oldest has a flat bed tow truck he uses to pick up cars for his repair shop and he gets pulled over every couple months or so to check his straps on the cars and things like that. He's had more warnings than he can count but never any fine.
	10:55am Phillippe: Hopping off early for a call. Thanks so much trouble!
	10:55am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "now i lay me down to weep" by "simone dina" "popcorn girls" sounds like a Trouble premium, just saying.
	10:56am HyperDose: ↳ time is fleeting @10:42 I think 78 is worse than 22. Higher speed limit and it's hilly which causes blind spots in bad weather
	10:57am pmcWhenever: cowpaths and corruption over hundreds of years, somewhat paved and cobblestoned underneath young and immortal youthz, freshly licensed and underdeveloped and likely impaired aka students make the Boston\|Cambridge area uniquely catastrophic semesterly…
	10:57am Spikey BXL: "knowledgeable Bob" sounds like a good nickname
	10:58am Chris Hiatt: ↳ HyperDose @10:56 Bronx River Parkway is terrifying.
	10:58am northguineahills: ↳ HyperDose @10:37 i don't mind the act of flying, it's everything surrounding it. If i can be in and out in 15 minutes each way, i'll be fine (being charged $90 for bags in october i didn't expect.)
	10:58am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @10:30 I'd love to see the Hellhole one day. Preferably during concert season!
	10:58am Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @10:58 QFT
	10:59am Handy Haversack: Palisades Parkways is totally off the hook as well, at least in the NJ section. It does calm down somewhat once you're in NY.
	11:00am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:58 Barely have an off season. Belgian audiences liked by most touring artists. You have a friend here!
	11:00am melinda: I hate self-checkout
	11:01am HyperDose: ↳ northguineahills @10:58 I heard some airlines are nickel and diming people for carry-on luggage now. Assume it's to recoup pandemic expenses when no one was flying
	11:01am Maulydaft: Amazing! Overthrowing self checkout! Just be really slow and frustrated and complain loudly while doing it! :D :D
	11:01am Handy Haversack: Never use a self-checkout unless you steal a lot. Then hopefully they realize that the self-checkouts lead to theft and go back to, you know, hiring people. I think I have never actually successfully used one. I tried once, got overwhelmed, and just went and stood on the long line. Never looked back.
	11:01am bk845: Self checkout is faster, and as someone who doesn't like to wait in line, I love it.
	11:01am Chief Guy: The digital revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
	11:02am SheWolf: You're not putting anyone out of work by doing self check out. I like it because it's faster, I can bag as I like and don't have to talk to anyone.
	11:02am Mup Mahoy: There are times when the checkout lines are very long, and the self-check is almost empty. It's a choice. I want it to stay.
	11:02am Robm: @Trouble i don’t use self checkout, trader joes does not have self checkout
	11:02am trubyl: self checkouts are good .if not 30 minute waits..
	11:02am Edison Mausoleum: I like using self checkout at Walmart because it makes it much easier to shoplift
	11:02am Noir Lover: I don't drive or use self checkout! Also produce doesn't have barcodes.
	11:02am Crownless Gander: Self checkout's great for sneaking a few extra items into the bag.
	11:03am bk845: For what it's worth, I use ShopRite mobile scan, so I scan and bag everything as I shop, and then scan a barcode at the register to load the order and pay for it.
	11:03am listener james from westwood: One local supermarket that had scan guns has had "OUT OF ORDER" signs on them for the past few days. I asked the customer service person whether this was a real malfunction or the store/chain taking a brute-force approach to "retail theft," and she admitted it easily could be corporate pettifoggery. This same chain recently expanded their number of self-check lanes, so they're setting folks up for wasting their own time and others' by scanning and bagging full carts of stuff.
	11:03am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:59 Robert Moses is cackling at us from his perch in Hell. These parkways, yeesh. how is it that we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway?
	11:03am Vivian: Self checkout- yes. I'm the type that likes to get what I need and get out. Self checkout lines are usually shorter.
	11:03am Maria D: I hate self checkout so much!! Or at least being forced to use it. Happens a lot at our big grocery chain and can take me 30 minutes to check myself out if buying a lot for my family.
	11:03am Dan S: I'm not fond of self-checkout either. Given a choice of stores with and without, I'll go to one without. Check out the old-school way, I say. BTW, I do think self-checkout has fostered the shoplifting mentality. It's just a small stretch from self-checkout to no-checkout.
	11:03am bk845: What I'm saying is, you can pry ShopRite Mobile Scan from my cold, dead fingers.
	11:04am xtrakrispy: ↳ Song: "the paris match" by "the style council" One of my favorite songs of all time…
	11:04am kevlicki: I refuse the self checkout and when I’ve had to use it someone on staff has to walk me thru it. No creative idea on how to advocate rn, other than going to cashiers What do you think of the Amazon surveillance store? Where you don’t even go to a checkout
	11:04am love2laf: Self checkout is such a multi-faceted horror story. Company doesn't pay employees enough to pay their bills like food and rent. Don't have enough employees, so put in self check-out. Some customer's anger is so high they steal and cheat at self check-out. Companies hire security. Always the customer loses out, and the prices continue to climb. My rant from my wooded world.
	11:04am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @11:00 I will let you know! We just planned our first actual trip -- that is, with an airplane and a hotel and tourist things -- since before the pandemic. Just a few days in New Orleans in Feb. Looking forward to it.
	11:04am Jason from Houston: Got a sale today at the self-checkout: 2 for 1 mustard greens.
	11:04am ongo bongo: i like self checkout--i pay a lot more attention to how much i'm spending, and am more likely to use my own bags
	11:04am Noir Lover: At Target in Brooklyn the self checkout lines are typically 2x longer than human lines.
	11:04am HyperDose: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:01 I love self-checkouts. They're definitely easier for the tech savvy. It's nice to shop and not have to take the headphones off to interact with people shudders
	11:05am sbw: I prefer self-checkout. It helps with my social anxiety!
	11:05am Toothgrinder Tom: It’s interesting to me how older cursive handwriting - like the kind you might see in a note handwritten by an aunt - looks so pretty but mine certainly doesn’t. I tend to print everything.
	11:05am Maulydaft: ↳ love2laf @11:04 YYYYESSSS
	11:05am dreamyandseedy: i contend that the worker who has to oversee 5-10 self-checkout stands works harder than any other cashier because they are constantly going back and forth between the self-checks helping everyone with their self-check problems
	11:05am Selfie guy: Self checkout is how you get Jeff Bezos to provide you with premium cuts of meat for free.
	11:05am Micheal: Thanks for a great show today, Trouble!
	11:06am Listener John from NJ: Don't use them? Make a lot of errors, to slow down the lines. If enough people do this, the store will need more people to "supervise" the self-check-out lines.
	11:06am Crownless Gander: French Style Council! This song was made for Trouble.
	11:06am Faith: I'm conflicted with self-checkout. Morally, I feel wrong potentially taking a job away from someone. Efficiency wise, I love being able to pack my bags exactly the way I want for the best weight distribution and lowest crush factor. Also, not having to constantly tell the cashier what the type of produce I got is. While on the topic, I'll also throw in how insane it is that cashiers have to stand for their shifts! Every other country I travel to the cashiers always get to sit!
	11:06am charles: you're so right. it's slower. AND i love your point that you're not an employee! dunno what we do especially when places like CVS don't give a choice anymore. back to supporting mom & pop stores?
	11:06am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:04 We too are hitting The Big Easy in Feb! Sometime during midwinter recess.
	11:07am xtrakrispy: The problem with self checkouts is all the damn marketing they try to throw into it. Sign up for this, coupons for that, do you want to donate to this, it’s annoying and slows down the process. Also did you put the item in the bag, REPEATEDLY. SO ANNOYING.
	11:07am Robm: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:05 and making sure people don’t do the 5 finger discount
	11:07am Trouble: @ noir lover: exactly the problem! i usually buy only produce, no coded items, so i have to type everything in, and of course that slows down the line. And yes every self checkout lane should be employing a person to check us out instead, so jobs are lost
	11:08am Spikey BXL: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:04 NOLA also on my long list of destinations. Am sure you'll enjoy it!
	11:08am Philip: late good morn
	11:09am coelacanth∅: 7-8 x now i've gone into lowes, gathered anything from a tube of cement to 9-10 items (sometimes big items) gone up to the self-checkout line and asked the attendant if self-checkout is my only option and when told yes, left my stuff there at the front and walked out. it's a commitment. it's time out of my day and possibly a few dollars more spent at the local hardware store. ...and maybe it will never help.
	11:09am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Robm @11:07 i actually think it's easier to steal in the human-powered checkout line, at least if you bring your own bags.
	11:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @11:06 Hey, same! I think 19-23, get there Mon., get home Fri. We should chat!
	11:10am Handy Haversack: ↳ Spikey BXL @11:08 There are a couple of WFMU listeners there who will provide a warm welcome!
	11:11am Robm: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:09 i never use self checkout too much temptation dreamy and i don’t want to spend time in the greybar hilton
	11:11am JaydiumCrass: Hiyas, Trouble and attendant troublemakers!
	11:12am HyperDose: ↳ Faith @11:06 Weight distribution and crush factor are good points!
	11:12am mark /trubyl: self checkouts are here to stay..welcome to the modern world..soon high speed robots deliver everything to you-- home- in the park-- at the club-at wfmu-all day 247365 at the concerts..before and after sex..at the library..at the beach
	11:12am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:09 Yes, definitely! Our exact dates aren't finalized yet, but will holla.
	11:13am Robm: one more thing before i go back to lurking, don’t go to walmart, they don’t have apple pay and the people at the front of the store are very slow in checking your receipts from shopping
	11:13am Zip7: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:09 Right on, Justified and Ancient Fish!!
	11:13am Listener John from NJ: I have read in the newspapers that some large retailers are considering getting rid of self-checkout lines But no supermarket chains were mentioned. Another anti-self-checkout idea: Break things!
	11:13am Handy Haversack: We always bag our own stuff. That's just part of carrying your own bags, it seems like. I'm not sure NYC grocery stores ever have the clerks bagging. At least not the ones I go to.
	11:13am Dan S: At least with a cashier, if you have a question or a problem, you know there's someone right in front of you to ask. With self-checkout, there might be one store employee for every four machines, trying to deal with multiple problems at once. I have sometimes just stopped the process before paying and walked out, leaving the unpaid stuff there and the store to clean up the mess. I'm talking to you, CVS closest to me.
	11:14am JaydiumCrass: Human check-out lines. I like mixing my own drinks, but the wait for cust svc to approve the ID on selfers is often very cumbersome, not to mention the snafus encountered when the selfer all of a sudden doesn't wanna co-operate.
	11:14am Spankyflop: ↳ Trouble @11:07 Even in the pre-self-checkout era, I hated having to bag my own groceries. There used to pay people who did that too.
	11:14am coelacanth∅: i rarely encounter a cashier that bags my items -as it should be. it has nothing to do with self-checkout.
	11:14am dreamyandseedy: really interesting to me that people with anxiety and/or who don't feel like talking to someone enjoy the self-checkout, i didn't really think about that. where i live we have a LOT of people using curbside grocery pick-up where the employee is in the store shopping for you (which is a whole separate issue because those curbside carts take up a lot of space in the store and blocking the way for actual customers and those employees could be cashiers instead)
	11:15am coelacanth∅: ↳ Zip7 @11:13 hey Zipper!
	11:15am bixa: what is the name of that lux southern grocery store where the people walk your cart to your car for you? anyone been to that?
	11:15am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "boat song" by "lilliput" great, i just got a notification my flight has been delayed by 40 mins. new flight duration, 25 hrs 40 mins... (that must be an error)
	11:15am HyperDose: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:13 And that 10 cent per bag charge adds up over time
	11:15am Trouble: i love to bag my groceries: then i know my soft stuff will not be crushed at the bottom.
	11:15am JaydiumCrass: ↳ northguineahills @11:15 Craaaaaaap
	11:15am Handy Haversack: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:14 Those self-checkout machines WAY trigger my anxiety!
	11:16am Handy Haversack: ↳ northguineahills @11:15 Change of planes in Nome?
	11:16am Edgar from Maine: They have self checkout at the liquor store up here!
	11:16am northguineahills: ↳ Trouble @11:15 i always bag my groceries! (Uncle Micheal's hinky dinky bag makes it easy!(
	11:16am Zip7: ↳ Dan S @11:13 CVS is a horror show. Hellbent on reducing labor costs. And it's the only game in my one-stoplight town
	11:16am Trouble: i also hate the voices of the self checkout, i feel like they are constantly yelling at me.
	11:16am Listener Jonny in MA............. d-_-b: Hiya Trouble! Enjoying my Thursday morning work while listening to music with you. Thanks so much.
	11:16am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:15 that's something you don't need...
	11:17am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:16 it's supposed to be a direct flight.. nome is still better than archangelsk ....
	11:17am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Trouble @11:15 exactly. i never let the store employees bag. they don't care at all, just want to get it done and move along. so oddly, that's an argument in favor of self-check
	11:17am Trouble: great to hear @ listner jonny... welcome aboard!
	11:17am pmcWhenever: online grocery order with pickup outside the market is the best thing since 1970’s home delivery from the local market, this covid inspired innovation, around MA, avoids so many of the in-market probs but it is random and full of unfound and surprise inclusions… later i will be seeing what i get this time while listening to Cage or FMU or FM scan
	11:17am northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:16 i was about to throw away perfectly good decent beer, but now....
	11:18am HyperDose: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:14 Grocery delivery is a game changer. You can get a whole month's worth of grocery shopping done in one day. I imagine the curbside employees are the same ones picking and packing delivery orders too (unless the delivery comes from the main warehouse like Kroger does)
	11:19am Spikey BXL: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 that's a felony in Belgium
	11:19am dreamyandseedy: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:17 same reasoning why i would never ever let an employee choose my groceries for me. i don't want anyone touching my stuff! haha
	11:19am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" Didn't know about this release. Super cool, onto the Bandcamp wishlist it goes!
	11:19am love2laf: ↳ Spikey BXL @11:19 Not just a felony, it's a crime of passion :(
	11:19am Ken From Hyde Park: The Stop & Shop stores in my locale have hand scanners for you and you can scan & bag as you go and hand it to the checkout person and you pay quickly and you're out the door.
	11:20am Dan S: Meanwhile, all the drugstores by me are putting more and more of their stuff behind glass, under lock, so you have to wait for a store employee to unlock it for you just to get the item in your hands! But then, you have to check yourself out without assistance! I call it the worst of both worlds.
	11:20am Listener John from NJ: ↳ bixa @11:15 Is it Publix? They ask if you wanna have them load your car.
	11:20am JaydiumCrass: I don't necessarily have an issue with how employees bag my stuff, as I believe at least for myself that a mashed hot dog bun, for example, isn't going to thoroughly destroy my day. Having the option of self-bag islands at the store I used to shop at, though, definitely helped for that to happen with a lot less frequency.
	11:20am Spikey BXL: ↳ love2laf @11:19 But the passion cannot be used as an extenuating circumstance
	11:21am trubyl/mark: you're right about the voices..side hustle voice over trubyl voice nationwide20 million$ contract
	11:21am Handy Haversack: ↳ HyperDose @11:18 We had to get groceries delivered once or twice when we had COVID, and I hated it. Never again, inshallah. Going to places in my neighborhood and interacting with people helps ground me. I do not think that every process in our lives needs to be optimized. And I certainly don't think that more trucks are helping anyone. I mean, all these errands kind of suck now without the dog. But keeping that neighborhood connection is important.
	11:22am dreamyandseedy: ↳ HyperDose @11:18 i get that people are busy and going to the store is a "chore" but why should it be a chore? when did it become a chore? i feel like it used to be fun. was it ever fun? i try not to make my weekly visit a chore, i try to enjoy it lol. but i also don't live in a big city, my trip to the store is usually the one time i go out into "town" and like, see people and things.
	11:22am northguineahills: ok, i just got an update, it will not be a 25 hour flight, it was just a bug. i'm going to now lie dow on the floor, w/ an imaginary paper bag, and just hyperventilate... (i'll be back once i'm conscious again...)
	11:22am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Trouble @11:16 Yeah they REALLY want you to "please take your items."
	11:22am coelacanth∅: the store i do most of my grocery shopping has no self-checkout. the cashier typically does not bag my items but there're 1-2 people on busy days dividing their attentions between the registers, bagging when needed or desired. they also have lower prices than the giant shiny store across the street with 8 self-checkout registers. i think one's a grocery store while the other is a pig factory.
	11:22am Listener Jonny in MA............. d-_-b: ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" noice
	11:23am northguineahills: ↳ Listener John from NJ @11:20 no more florida grocery talk here (publix dominates the floridascape, and they're not bad).
	11:24am HyperDose: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:21 Definitely more options in the city. As someone who doesn't drive and doesn't always have an affordable grocery store within walking distance, the delivery option is great. Keeps me cooking which is cheaper and healthier than eating out.
	11:24am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:22 Breathe NGH, breathe. You know you've got this, your dream coming true because of your hard work, and your persistence. In the home stretch now and rounding for home :)
	11:25am Dan S: One last thing: I often prefer to pay with cash, but only two of the four self-checkout machines at my nearest CVS will take cash. The other two are cards only. They know we are less likely to restrain our spending when using a card! OK, enough ranting for one morning.
	11:25am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" do tim gane and laetitia sadiar do anything wrong (duophonic is their label)
	11:25am Zip7: One of the big issues we fought back in community organizing days was supermarket chains moving near-expiration date goods to stores on "the other side of the tracks."
	11:26am SheWolf: ↳ Noir Lover @11:04 Same at the large Target by me and there is now a sign indicating that self check out is for 10 items and under and presumably they have added more cashiers.
	11:26am Handy Haversack: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:22 I'm with you, dreamyandseedy. I think I'll go to be local bookstore and spend too much money this afternoon.
	11:26am coelacanth∅: people who get anxiety talking to other people (or just don't want to - which means they get anxiety over it) need to talk to other people. self-checkout is enabling them to sink deeper into their self-centered isolation.
	11:27am melinda: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:26 Agree
	11:27am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @11:24 thank you. i've got this. my friend is picking me up, and i'm going to be sleep deprived and possibly intoxicated...... scratch that... not drinking until i get there.....(goes to yerba mate)
	11:28am JaydiumCrass: ↳ northguineahills @11:27 Good deal! Take er easy and hopin everything is up from here!
	11:29am SheWolf: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:26 I can talk to people or not. When I don't feel like it I just don't feel like it. Nothing to do with anxiety. Methinks you're over thinking, which is often related to anxiety.
	11:29am melinda: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:22 I feel the same way. I'm an introvert but I want to interact with people when I buy my groceries, it might be the only time I talk to someone that day.
	11:29am northguineahills: ↳ JaydiumCrass @11:28 i appreciate it. it means a lot!
	11:30am Edgar from Maine: I'll stand in line for a human checker even if the self-checkout is available. I like the interaction even if they're surly.
	11:30am steveo: *especially if they're surly
	11:30am Handy Haversack: ↳ northguineahills @11:27 You got this. Ain't nothin' gonna to break your stride Nobody gonna slow you down, oh no.
	11:30am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "astral melancholy suite" by "ghost power" Wow this was good.
	11:31am dreamyandseedy: i have one last thing also: being a cashier is one of the worst jobs ever. at least in my experience. you are paid minimum wage or barely more and you are, more often than not, treated like garbage by the customers. it is truly a soul-sucking job (it was for me). and i think there's an issue here of the grocery store employees doing their job to the bare minimum of their ability bc that's all they are getting paid to do and they are not treated with respect by the company or the customers. so i will absolutely hate on them for not doing their job but i see the other side of it as well... the whole thing is a mess! i dunno what to do except be nice to them and do what i can to make my little trip there painless
	11:31am steveo: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @11:30 so good
	11:32am coelacanth∅: ↳ SheWolf @11:29 haha, well i'm referring to people who never want to talk to other people; and of course it's a broad generalization. ...and i DO have anxiety -plenty and for good reason...but not about talking with other people!
	11:33am coelacanth∅: ↳ Edgar from Maine @11:30 agreed
	11:34am StringOFperils: I like to be nice to check-out people also. Not a great place to be stuck, as much as it does provide employment for folks, who for one reason or another, can't access something better yet. Except for the replacement of said employment by machines, self-checkouts seem like a mercy
	11:34am love2laf: ↳ dreamyandseedy @11:31 "I'm not afraid of hell, I've worked retail." The good customers make the day easier and better. You learn to roll with the nasty customers, and how to handle them, and often de-escalate their behaviour. Not all the time, but some of the time. Establishing a relationship with all of the customers, builds a better workplace. Worked retail for most of my life.
	11:34am melinda: My hate for self-checkout is a soft hate
	11:36am PMD: I head her say check out, and thought that with so much controversy that you all were talking about the right to end your own life. Then I come here and we are in the supermarket.
	11:37am Handy Haversack: ↳ PMD @11:36 Better? Or worse?
	11:37am love2laf: ↳ PMD @11:36 Damn it, that is a banger of a spit take!
	11:37am dreamyandseedy: ↳ love2laf @11:34 i never learned that lol i just don't have that mental ability, i have too thin a skin. the people who can thrive (or survive) in that environment have got something i would like to bottle!
	11:38am PMD: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:37 Different!
	11:38am PMD: ↳ love2laf @11:37 Learned a new phrase thanks!
	11:39am Trouble: rosemary tonks: "the bloater", "the halt during the chase" are the two i have read so far: super!!
	11:39am dday: Not being 100% sure my covid is gone & wearing a mask, the self checkout for an item or two seems a bit safer from a medical standpoint for me right now. No human interaction from me or anyone else. As for the "touch spread" aspect of covid or any of the myriad of respiratory diseases currently going around, I have kept a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol & paper towels in my car since late 2019 & also surgical gloves.
	11:40am coelacanth∅: my hate for self-checkout is a hard hate, not quite as seething as that for self-driving vehicles and drones but it's obviously a bad thing for humans in general.
	11:42am love2laf: Must away from accu, so thanking you early Trouble for the amazing music, and provocative question of the day. Thanks for the chat and company accu friends, keep an eye on NGH, don't let him forget his paper bag for hyperventilating treatment.
	11:42am StringOFperils: Defy self checkout terminals. Demand the impossible!
	11:43am coelacanth∅: ↳ PMD @11:36 i will now use "self-checkout" in it's new and better context! sometimes it's the reasonable thing.
	11:46am bixa: this song makes me feel like i'm in stardew valley
	11:47am HyperDose: ↳ bixa @11:46 I love that soundtrack
	11:47am Edgar from Maine: Gratitude to Trouble for this scrumptious set today! Thank you and the team.
	11:47am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "eight wave" by "suzanne ciani" I love how I can tell a Ciani piece...
	11:49am melinda: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:40 That's justified
	11:51am pmcWhenever: Out of Stock Annie's Chicken & Pasta Soup Gluten Free - EA 0 of 4 Get ready for your Pickup: For the fastest pickup experience, enable location services and set pickup preferences in our app. On your pickup day, look for a notification to open the app when you're on your way, and keep it open until you receive your order. When you arrive, look for the signs marking the designated pickup area. Once parked, just relax and stay in your vehicle and we'll bring your order out quickly. We'll tell you about any substitutions, and you can remove them from your order if you wish. We appreciate your thoughtfulness, but associates are not permitted to accept tips. Thanks for understanding. Have questions? We've got answers. *** real in-person is generally the best but not always the best option, these days…21stC dayz
	11:52am bixa: ↳ Listener John from NJ @11:20 YES publix
	11:53am bradford: Many thanks, Trouble.
	11:53am StringOFperils: Thanks for hosting, Trouble. In lieu of actual chicken soup, this has been alright. This lingering Covid, however, sucks.
	11:53am Jason from Houston: Many thanks, Trouble. See y'all at the grocery store!!!
	11:53am ami ad: Thank you, DJ. Crew.
	11:54am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 danks, mang!
	11:54am Handy Haversack: Thanks, Trouble! Stay Troubled, all. Just, you know, don't write it down unless you can read it later.
	11:55am Dan S: Happy New Year, Trouble and other Modernists! Until next week!
	11:56am Handy Haversack: Dang, didn't realize Dave Dichelle was away again.
	11:56am Chris Hiatt: Thanks, DJ Trouble! So glad for the soundtrack while we figured everything out today.
	11:56am Trouble: thanks for tuning in today and being part of my supermarket research team. see you next week!
	11:56am Ochre Ogre: Thanks Trouble!
	11:57am steveo: thanks, Trouble! wonderful to have tuned in today!
	11:58am Handy Haversack: Happy trails, ngh!
	11:58am listener james from westwood: Thanks, Trouble!
	12:00pm dreamyandseedy: thanks Trouble!
	12:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Have a nice weekend (avoiding snow if you can).
	12:00pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): Lovely show, Trouble! TY!
	12:01pm Fishman: Greetings fellow Hookers

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 4, 2024

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