WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 13, 2023

Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtontasms!
	🤖 6:00pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtoniacs!
	6:01pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:01pm Rolando: Fine Friends Hello Hello
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonicoids!
	🤖 6:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Mark and Techtonicians!
	6:03pm malĥerbo (nl): Hi Mark ( and techtonoids )!
	🤖 6:04pm PaulRobeson1923: Hi all! Warm greetings from Greenpoint, Brooklyn
	6:06pm Quinn02: I hate Amazon. Hi Mark and listeners!
	6:06pm Ike: Here's what I know about Korean history: they had some amazing hats. I learned this from a show called Kingdom, a Korean zombie historical drama, which is on an evil streaming service.
	🤖 6:06pm tim: Hey Mark! I’m very intrigued about the book.
	6:07pm Rando: We dropped more bombs on the Korean peninsula in the 50s than we dropped in both theaters of WWII
	6:07pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Ike @6:06 i really enjoyed that show, Ike. and agree about the hats.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining this evening.
	6:11pm Tom from Stirling: Just bought Korean Barbecue flavored popcorn. It's tasty
	6:13pm Ciggy: Korea:Queen of Diamonds: Angela Landsbury: Laurence Harvey
	🤖 6:13pm herb.nyc: This does sound like fun book Wait- first time ed park was here, I think mark said the 2 are friends. If so, maybe a disclaimer, mark?
	6:14pm Fredericks: My dad was a medic in the Korean war. Said it was the dumbest thing he'd ever seen.
	6:15pm ultradamno: I really think the punishment for having a K-pop CD should be capped at having to listen to it.
	6:16pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 Or Leenalchi
	🤖 6:17pm herb.nyc: From wnyc long time ago, about a novel set in NKorea. Banana pops up in conversation. One sez -“wha? You’ve eaten one? What’s it taste like?” Wow
	6:20pm Fredericks: We have an armistice wit Korea, right?
	🤖 6:28pm herb.nyc: Buffalo, NY and Korea?Oh, the Knox initials. New Zealand’s Chris Knox is intrigued
	6:29pm MarciB: Thanks Mark - another book to add to my list! I'm still working on "Blood in the Machine". This sounds fascinating and a nice change from my usual non-fiction habit!
	🤖 6:29pm tim: I’ve never been to Buffalo but everything I’ve heard about sounds like my kind of place.
	🤖 6:29pm herb.nyc: Chris Knox. Central Korea. (Think central jersey)
	🤖 6:30pm tim: ↳ herb.nyc @6:29 Or the DMZ.
	🤖 6:31pm herb.nyc: ↳ tim @6:30 Doh! Middle Zealand.
	6:31pm MarciB: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 pity my WFH husband who has to edit Kpop videos! At least I don't have to listen to it - he uses headphones ;)
	6:32pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Long time listener; occasional commenter. Nice program, Mark.
	🤖 6:33pm herb.nyc: ↳ MarciB @6:31 K pop? Does he know book LARGER THAN LIFE by Maria Sherman. About boy bands, and BTS is in it
	🤖 6:34pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:29 I’m excited to read it myself. I’m reading a way old Techtonic book. Voices from the Valley. Mark interviewed the authors in 2021 I think. I recommend it.
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:32 Thanks, Peter!
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:29 Thanks, Marci - glad you're enjoying Brian Merchant's book.
	6:36pm MarciB: ↳ herb.nyc @6:33 I doubt it but now that I know about it, I'll mention it! He works for Billboard and works with what we consider not-our-music (longtime WFMU fans that we are) ;)
	6:39pm MarciB: ↳ tim @6:34 Excellent, will add it to my list. Thanks Tim!
	🤖 6:40pm tim: I’ll have to read the book to find out what happened to Reagan!
	6:40pm Bea: Thank you for this interview, Mark!! Can’t wait to read this novel - and love the connections you’re making to old and new technologies.
	🤖 6:41pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:39 My pleasure!
	6:41pm Rando: Play some JFA
	6:43pm Tom from Stirling: Kia - car-maker based in Seoul
	6:43pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Bea @6:40 Thanks, Bea!
	6:44pm vibration: Had the very same inception-like thought about Taxi Driver, JF, and Hinkley this past week..
	6:44pm ultradamno: MAS*Hbot 4.bp.blogspot.com...
	🤖 6:46pm herb.nyc: MASH. did 80million watch the last episode. DuckDuckGo will tell us. / I use my Olivetti lettera 32 manual typewriter once in awhile. Dad bought for sis, 1966(?).
	🤖 6:46pm tim: Great interview Mark and Ed!
	6:47pm ultradamno: The show with the single worst name for an african-american character EVER!
	6:47pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:47 mash.fandom.com...
	🤖 6:47pm chresti: Thanks Mark and Ed!
	6:48pm Tom from Stirling: Mash- the movie. A classic
	🤖 6:50pm tim: My local library has 2 copies. Both are checked out and there’s a queue to get it. That’s great!
	🤖 6:50pm herb.nyc: The boy band book LARGER THAN LIFE. It’s all boy bands, not Korea centric
	6:51pm vibration: MKULTRA was ostensibly started because of alleged brainwashing techniques the Koreans were practicing.
	6:51pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ ultradamno @6:47 Taken right from the movie.
	6:52pm vibration: depends on your views on free-will
	🤖 6:55pm DjLorraine: I think... my brother was at Tony Packos restaurant (as mentioned by Klinger) on the finalé night.
	6:56pm ultradamno: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:51 ...and the book (noted in the link). Still, though.
	6:56pm Tom from Stirling: Chun Hwa Ha Sae Yo
	6:56pm Ochre Ogre: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm malĥerbo (nl): 🙏
	6:57pm morphe': Thanks MH and all !!!! ps from year was that Abbey quote ????
	6:57pm vibration: Lyndon LaRouche springs to mind
	6:57pm Matt from OK: That is one of the best Abbey quotes I’ve ever heard. He’s right up there with Bookchin, Illitch, and Freire.
	6:58pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" A dream is not a dream until you lose sleep.
	6:58pm Ciggy: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" Nice
	🤖 6:58pm tim: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" Perfect! Thanks again, Mark! I appreciate your weekly effort!
	6:59pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" By the way, the recent collection of Martin Rev cassette recording is now available in a few different physical media options martin-rev.bandcamp.com...
	🤖 6:59pm PaulRobeson1923: A WAKE classic!
	🤖 6:59pm herb.nyc: Stream baby stream🎶 Thx mark!
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 7:01pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 13, 2023

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Mon. Nov 4th, 6pm - 7pm: Dystopia update (More info...)
Chatbots are now running rampant - appearing in new-model cars - as we're being told to "be nice to chatbots." Stores are using "digital price tags," which rely on surveillance to set the price to the company's liking. Meantime, Google's AI is giving wrong answers, in some cases, almost half the time. All these and more in Mark's dystopia update.
Mon. Dec 23rd, 6pm - 7pm: Don Fleming guest hosts Techtonic

November 13, 2023: Ed Park, author, "Same Bed Different Dreams"

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Today: Ed Park, author, “Same Bed Different Dreams”

• Same Bed Different Dreams, by Ed Park

• Linktree for Ed Park

• About Ed Park

• Welcome to Ed Park’s Many-Layered World (Nov 2, 2023), New York Times review by Hamilton Cain

• July 20, 2020 Techtonic, Ed’s first appearance on Techtonic – discussing reading during a pandemic

• Californian author Ed Park’s wildly ambitious novel of alt-history Korea (LA Times review by Jonathan Russell Clark, Nov 6, 2023)

• Court rules automakers can record and intercept owner text messages (Record.media, Nov 8, 2023)

• Finally: Speaking of “Dreams are everything that’s not online” . . .

“Our cancerous industrialism, reducing all ideological differences to epiphenomena, has generated its own breed of witch doctor. These are men with a genius for control and organization, and the lust to administrate. They propose first to shrink our world to the dimensions of a global village, over which some technological crackpot will erect a geodesic dome to regulate air and light; at the same time the planetary superintendent of schools will feed our children via endless belt into reinforcement-trained boxes where they will be conditioned for their functions in the anthill arcology of the future. The ideal robot, after all, is simply a properly processed human being.”

– Edward Abbey, “Shadows from the Big Woods” (thanks to DJ Irwin Chusid)

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Ed Park, author, "Same Bed Different Dreams"
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack	n/a
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with Ed Park "Interview with Ed Park"			0:03:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
	Mark's comments "Mark's comments"			0:42:48 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Suicide	Dream Baby Dream "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide"	Single	Island Records	0:54:24 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtontasms!
	🤖 6:00pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtoniacs!
	6:01pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:01pm Rolando: Fine Friends Hello Hello
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonicoids!
	🤖 6:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Mark and Techtonicians!
	6:03pm malĥerbo (nl): Hi Mark ( and techtonoids )!
	🤖 6:04pm PaulRobeson1923: Hi all! Warm greetings from Greenpoint, Brooklyn
	6:06pm Quinn02: I hate Amazon. Hi Mark and listeners!
	6:06pm Ike: Here's what I know about Korean history: they had some amazing hats. I learned this from a show called Kingdom, a Korean zombie historical drama, which is on an evil streaming service.
	🤖 6:06pm tim: Hey Mark! I’m very intrigued about the book.
	6:07pm Rando: We dropped more bombs on the Korean peninsula in the 50s than we dropped in both theaters of WWII
	6:07pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Ike @6:06 i really enjoyed that show, Ike. and agree about the hats.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining this evening.
	6:11pm Tom from Stirling: Just bought Korean Barbecue flavored popcorn. It's tasty
	6:13pm Ciggy: Korea:Queen of Diamonds: Angela Landsbury: Laurence Harvey
	🤖 6:13pm herb.nyc: This does sound like fun book Wait- first time ed park was here, I think mark said the 2 are friends. If so, maybe a disclaimer, mark?
	6:14pm Fredericks: My dad was a medic in the Korean war. Said it was the dumbest thing he'd ever seen.
	6:15pm ultradamno: I really think the punishment for having a K-pop CD should be capped at having to listen to it.
	6:16pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 Or Leenalchi
	🤖 6:17pm herb.nyc: From wnyc long time ago, about a novel set in NKorea. Banana pops up in conversation. One sez -“wha? You’ve eaten one? What’s it taste like?” Wow
	6:20pm Fredericks: We have an armistice wit Korea, right?
	🤖 6:28pm herb.nyc: Buffalo, NY and Korea?Oh, the Knox initials. New Zealand’s Chris Knox is intrigued
	6:29pm MarciB: Thanks Mark - another book to add to my list! I'm still working on "Blood in the Machine". This sounds fascinating and a nice change from my usual non-fiction habit!
	🤖 6:29pm tim: I’ve never been to Buffalo but everything I’ve heard about sounds like my kind of place.
	🤖 6:29pm herb.nyc: Chris Knox. Central Korea. (Think central jersey)
	🤖 6:30pm tim: ↳ herb.nyc @6:29 Or the DMZ.
	🤖 6:31pm herb.nyc: ↳ tim @6:30 Doh! Middle Zealand.
	6:31pm MarciB: ↳ ultradamno @6:15 pity my WFH husband who has to edit Kpop videos! At least I don't have to listen to it - he uses headphones ;)
	6:32pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Long time listener; occasional commenter. Nice program, Mark.
	🤖 6:33pm herb.nyc: ↳ MarciB @6:31 K pop? Does he know book LARGER THAN LIFE by Maria Sherman. About boy bands, and BTS is in it
	🤖 6:34pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:29 I’m excited to read it myself. I’m reading a way old Techtonic book. Voices from the Valley. Mark interviewed the authors in 2021 I think. I recommend it.
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:32 Thanks, Peter!
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:29 Thanks, Marci - glad you're enjoying Brian Merchant's book.
	6:36pm MarciB: ↳ herb.nyc @6:33 I doubt it but now that I know about it, I'll mention it! He works for Billboard and works with what we consider not-our-music (longtime WFMU fans that we are) ;)
	6:39pm MarciB: ↳ tim @6:34 Excellent, will add it to my list. Thanks Tim!
	🤖 6:40pm tim: I’ll have to read the book to find out what happened to Reagan!
	6:40pm Bea: Thank you for this interview, Mark!! Can’t wait to read this novel - and love the connections you’re making to old and new technologies.
	🤖 6:41pm tim: ↳ MarciB @6:39 My pleasure!
	6:41pm Rando: Play some JFA
	6:43pm Tom from Stirling: Kia - car-maker based in Seoul
	6:43pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Bea @6:40 Thanks, Bea!
	6:44pm vibration: Had the very same inception-like thought about Taxi Driver, JF, and Hinkley this past week..
	6:44pm ultradamno: MAS*Hbot 4.bp.blogspot.com...
	🤖 6:46pm herb.nyc: MASH. did 80million watch the last episode. DuckDuckGo will tell us. / I use my Olivetti lettera 32 manual typewriter once in awhile. Dad bought for sis, 1966(?).
	🤖 6:46pm tim: Great interview Mark and Ed!
	6:47pm ultradamno: The show with the single worst name for an african-american character EVER!
	6:47pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:47 mash.fandom.com...
	🤖 6:47pm chresti: Thanks Mark and Ed!
	6:48pm Tom from Stirling: Mash- the movie. A classic
	🤖 6:50pm tim: My local library has 2 copies. Both are checked out and there’s a queue to get it. That’s great!
	🤖 6:50pm herb.nyc: The boy band book LARGER THAN LIFE. It’s all boy bands, not Korea centric
	6:51pm vibration: MKULTRA was ostensibly started because of alleged brainwashing techniques the Koreans were practicing.
	6:51pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ ultradamno @6:47 Taken right from the movie.
	6:52pm vibration: depends on your views on free-will
	🤖 6:55pm DjLorraine: I think... my brother was at Tony Packos restaurant (as mentioned by Klinger) on the finalé night.
	6:56pm ultradamno: ↳ Tom from Stirling @6:51 ...and the book (noted in the link). Still, though.
	6:56pm Tom from Stirling: Chun Hwa Ha Sae Yo
	6:56pm Ochre Ogre: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm malĥerbo (nl): 🙏
	6:57pm morphe': Thanks MH and all !!!! ps from year was that Abbey quote ????
	6:57pm vibration: Lyndon LaRouche springs to mind
	6:57pm Matt from OK: That is one of the best Abbey quotes I’ve ever heard. He’s right up there with Bookchin, Illitch, and Freire.
	6:58pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" A dream is not a dream until you lose sleep.
	6:58pm Ciggy: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" Nice
	🤖 6:58pm tim: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" Perfect! Thanks again, Mark! I appreciate your weekly effort!
	6:59pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide" By the way, the recent collection of Martin Rev cassette recording is now available in a few different physical media options martin-rev.bandcamp.com...
	🤖 6:59pm PaulRobeson1923: A WAKE classic!
	🤖 6:59pm herb.nyc: Stream baby stream🎶 Thx mark!
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 7:01pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 13, 2023

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Listener comments!

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