WFMU: Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from January 30, 2024

Listener comments!
	👻 3:42pm Austin Rich: Good Hello
	8:59pm Imaginos: Ahoy! I have the feeling that tonight is going to be very unusual and amazing
	8:59pm Mr. X: Mind, the gap.
	9:01pm Krys O.: Hellooooo
	👻 9:01pm ramencity: WELCOME TO THE HYVE MYND
	9:02pm Kat in the chat: Me and my brain are present
	9:02pm Geoff-U: Happy T000zday
	9:03pm Imaginos: ↳ ramencity @9:01 We from within the Magna of Illusion thank you
	9:03pm Geoff-U: I kinda want a T-shirt that says "The Mid-Valley: It's In The Middle!"
	9:06pm Imaginos: The mind vs the mirror
	9:07pm Mr Fab: raises hand Present, teacher!
	👻 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:07 Mr. Fab! Nice to see you! And I think I addressed everyone else, but: thanks Imaginos, Mr. X, Krys O, The Ramen City Kid, Kat In The Chat, and Geoff-U! Hopefully we are ready for a journey... INTO THE MIND!
	9:11pm Mr. X: I'm already trapped inside my mind. Been trying to get the hell out.
	👻 9:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:11 Maybe this will be the guide to the way out!
	9:13pm Krys O.: Generational trauma can lead to mental illness.
	9:13pm Mr. X: Sane people drive me crazy!
	👻 9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:13 Very true. There seem to be a number of vectors. The Brain is so complicated.
	9:15pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:13 People who constantly claim to be sane are the ones you have to watch out for.
	9:17pm Krys O.: Cultural differences can be misinterpreted as mental illness, unfortunately. Heck, the concept of hysteria is based on prejudice and misinterpreation: "the Greek notion that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus "
	9:18pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:17 We know better now. But something good did come out of it.
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:17 I think about the cultural difference all the time. All my Peace Corps friends have so many stories of what was normal for where they lived, vs. what is normal for the US. That was sort of an eye opener for me.
	9:19pm Krys O.: ↳ Imaginos @9:18 There's still a long way to go.
	9:20pm Aitch: Lurking, love the Surfers.
	9:21pm Mr. X: Some of the most important people in my life have had mental illness diagnoses, from schizophrenia to PTSD to bipolar disorder. All brilliant people in their own way. And several of them burned so brightly that they burnt out far too early.
	9:21pm Krys O.: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 Interesting. I mentioned it because one of my sisters was a psychiatric nurse who worked in Brooklyn in the 70s and 80s before she moved west. We discussed some of these things when she came home from work when we shared an apartment.
	👻 9:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:20 Aitch! I feel like we've talked about them before. This album in particular, paired with Hairway To Steven, are the ones that got the most play in my house. Those two are SO GOOD.
	9:21pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:19 In the case of mental health, yes. Though they were kind of right in the sense that physical or sexual fulfillment does help the mind relax.
	9:22pm Aitch: R PHorse the first one I bought, astounding record.
	👻 9:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:21 Oh, wow! I bet she has some stories.
	9:22pm Krys O.: ↳ Krys O. @9:21 There was a large population of Haitians in Brooklyn at the time. There were language and cultural issues when emotional issues would arise.
	👻 9:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:22 It holds up very well.
	9:24pm Krys O.: ↳ Austin Rich @9:22 She did. She later worked in geriatric care in psychiatric hospitals. I was very interested in psychology and I was on track to be a social worker in college, but that's another story.
	9:24pm Mr. X: Got the obligatory Amboy Dukes sample out of the way. Check.
	9:25pm Aitch: I've noticed Architects are all somewhere on the spectrum
	9:26pm Imaginos: Albert Bouchard's soulmate used to work in the mental health field working with people who were facing death
	9:26pm Krys O.: ↳ Aitch @9:25 Scientists and engineers, yes. Neurodiversity is seen less and less as a mental health issue though.
	9:28pm Imaginos: You are also appreciated
	👻 9:29pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Egg Danger" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" One of my all-time favorite bands. I've enjoyed every album by Thinking Fellers, and many of their spin-off projects, too! A very excellent band that wound down far too early for my taste.
	9:29pm Krys O.: ↳ Aitch @9:25 There is a very interesting YouTube channel that discusses neurodiversity and they discussed how traits that are often seen in that population can be of great use in research, data analysis, and related professions.
	9:30pm Aitch: ↳ Krys O. @9:26 Not necessarily an impairment, can be an enhancement, for work at least.
	9:30pm Mr. X: Shared a bill with Thinking Fellers one year at the Oly Experimental Fest. My mind was appropriately blown.
	👻 9:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:29 I should check that out.
	9:31pm Krys O.: ↳ Aitch @9:30 Exactly. A superpower, to some degree.
	👻 9:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:30 Never saw them, but saw "White Shark Shivers," which was many of the same members, but with a few differences, but only doing a few similar songs.
	9:31pm Imaginos: ↳ Aitch @9:30 Could it be a form of evolution?
	9:32pm Krys O.: ↳ Imaginos @9:31 Most aspects of life are a form of evolution.
	9:33pm Krys O.: ↳ Austin Rich @9:31 Autism from the Inside is the account: www.youtube.com...
	9:33pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Endless Questions" by "Trembling Worm (The Giant ... !!
	9:33pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:32 Good point
	9:34pm Kat in the chat: Radio Row, the show on the mothership with different guest hosts every week, recently had a show featuring neurodiverse musicians, followed two weeks later by an hour of music/comedy/spoken word on mental health themes.The mind is on WFMU minds lately!
	9:34pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr. X @9:33 I didn't remember that I gave you this.
	👻 9:34pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:33 You sent this to me, back in 2018. I've been sitting on it ever since.
	👻 9:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:34 Woah! And I was thinking about doing more in this series... Our minds are in sync!
	👻 9:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:33 Thanks for the link!
	9:35pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Austin Rich @9:35 Yeah go for it, there's plenty of interest round these parts
	👻 9:36pm Austin Rich: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:35 I had so much picked out for this series, and then never really did much with it. So it is probably time!
	👻 9:37pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:34 What was the story behind this "Improv Summit"? Do you recall?
	9:39pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:37 Gary and I put together a show at Old Nick's, and booked Trembling Earth Contract to play there. It was a mutual admiration thing. We decided we had to jam together.
	👻 9:40pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 This a rehearsal for that show? Did you two play together at that show?
	9:41pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 The jam took place at drummer Cameron's house, in a sort of rural pocket of urban Springfield.
	9:41pm Krys O.: Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder and the Cluster B disorders are tough because they don't respond well to talk therapy and such. My oldest sister has a couple of Cluster B personality disorders and so did my ex. I learned a lot from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy over the years that helps me. I also find comfort from another YouTube account Surviving Narcissism: www.youtube.com... It's impossible for psych hospitals to hold a patient against their will for an extended period of time unless they harm themselves or others which is seen as criminal behavior. That is why these people end up incarcerated. It also has to do with the paranoid beliefs that many patients have about medication. It's tough.
	9:42pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:40 No rehearsal, just spontaneous improv. No we didn't play together at the Old Nick's Show.
	👻 9:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:41 It's such a mess. We have a big hospital here in the Mid-Valley, and I have been curious what kind of volunteer programs they have. It's been on my mind, anyway.
	👻 9:43pm univac: Hello, all!
	👻 9:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:43 univac! Wonderful to see you in the chat!
	👻 9:44pm univac: Hey Austin! Great to be here. Have teleported in for just about 30 min. Loving what I'm hearing.
	9:45pm coelacanth∅: greetings Austin Rich and mid-valley mutants
	👻 9:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:45 coelacanthø! Excellent to have you drop in.
	9:45pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 Trembling Earth Contract is named after a science fiction book, I can't remember the author, but I saw a copy of it at Cameron Wick's house. One of the members of Trembling Earth Contract was Michael Billings, stalwart of the Eugene music scene since the 80s.
	👻 9:46pm Austin Rich: univac and I did a great show together on Sunday, on another station. He's an excellent writing / performing partner, and I'm humbled to have him in my social circle.
	9:46pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @9:41 What's Cluster B? (survivor of a mercifully brief marriage to a narcissist here, as well as a very disturbed mother)
	9:48pm Imaginos: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:46 The only Cluster I can think of is the Capitol of the League of 20,0000 Planets
	9:48pm Krys O.: en.wikipedia.org... The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. In 1981 President Ronald Reagan, who had made major efforts during his Governorship to reduce funding and enlistment for California mental institutions, pushed a political effort through the Democratically controlled House of Representatives and a Republican controlled Senate to repeal most of MHSA.[1] The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy.
	👻 9:48pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @9:46 uhm...uh...wow! Thanks Austin! I'm happy to be able to collaborate with you, and contribute to the degeneration of all the kids out there by way of absurd noise radio drama.
	9:50pm Krys O.: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:46 www.emedicinehealth.com...
	9:51pm Imaginos: ↳ univac @9:48 Austin is a great collaborator
	👻 9:51pm univac: Definitely.
	👻 9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:48 I do what I can, anyway.
	9:52pm JM in Texas: Hello everyone! Where can we find a link to the radio show univac/Austin Rich did Sunday?
	👻 9:52pm univac: We have some great 4th Sunday Players uBradio shows coming up.
	👻 9:53pm univac: ↳ JM in Texas @9:52 All the uBradios are on your favorite podcast stream, and also on Archive.org
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ JM in Texas @9:52 I don't think there's an archived link yet, but here's a link to all my uB Radio Salon appearances, and most of them include univac, too: midvalleymutations.com...
	👻 9:54pm Austin Rich: ↳ Austin Rich @9:53 (I think the one from Sunday will get posted this Thursday?)
	👻 9:55pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Blood Flower / Stone Away" by "Rob Jo Star Band" A seriously overlooked piece of French Music that I am in love with. This album got re-issued in 2010, but I think it's much older. I recommend it!
	👻 9:55pm univac: Austin and I have done every 5th/5th (sometimes 3rd) Sunday for, um, wow over 2 years now. Austin's link above is great too! Thursday our show should be posted on archive.org then podcast on Friday.
	9:55pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @9:50 thank you Krys! I was aware of most of those disorders but not of the "cluster" classifications.
	👻 9:55pm univac: (That is supposed to be every 4th/5th)
	9:56pm Krys O.: I saw a few therapists in the past and one of them misdiagnosed me as schizoid. It's more likely that I'm neurodivergent. She was the only one that came to that conclusion.
	👻 9:56pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @9:55 Great track!
	9:57pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @9:56 Definitely sounds like a misdiagnosis to me
	👻 9:57pm Austin Rich: I feel like misdiagnosis can be so easy. Finding the right match for treatment is so difficult.
	9:57pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Blood Flower / Stone Away" by "Rob Jo Star Band" Kind of like Gong meets CAN.
	👻 9:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:57 Sort of! That's a very good observation.
	9:58pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:56 Happened to me, too. But in my case when my parents took me for a second opinion the new doctor just saw what the first had decided and their diagnosis was affected by that label
	9:59pm Krys O.: Many women and girls on the spectrum are never diagnosed because the prevailing focus has been on the behavior of men and boys with neurodiversity. AND because women and girls become adept at "masking." The term “autism masking” is used to describe behaviors used by people with ASD to suppress or hide the signature characteristics of the disorder. It can also mean mirroring the behavior of neurotypical people and developing “scripts” that work in social situations
	9:59pm JM in Texas: Thx, I’m all over the UBRadio_salon pods. I’ll keep an ear out! Austin - enjoyed your contribution to the GX Jupiter-Larsen: Art Cars and other Machines: https://youtu.be/00mvvgs96GM?si=61bx98ZwmbzRjyLC
	10:00pm Krys O.: Thanks, Austin for doing this. Wish I could stay up, but I have to get some sleep. Take care!
	👻 10:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ JM in Texas @9:59 I haven't see this! GX is on my mailing list, so I do send him a lot of stuff.
	10:01pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:59 Also because most government insurance doesn't cover testing for autism
	👻 10:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @10:00 Sleep is very important for Mental Health! Get some... and thanks for your wiggle room tonight!
	10:01pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @10:00 Sleep well, Krys!
	10:02pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Austin Rich @10:01 It's important for physical health too. I've finally gained some respect for that.
	10:02pm JM in Texas: One does enjoy a good Satanic plot!
	👻 10:03pm univac: ↳ JM in Texas @9:59 Glad you're enjoying them! dAs and Ninah do the main show and Austin and I plug in with script and noises periodically.
	👻 10:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Kat in the chat @10:02 True. I'm a bad sleeper. I need to get on it.
	👻 10:05pm univac: I have to git. Thx Austin for a great show. Talk to you soon.
	👻 10:05pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:05 Indeed! Talk soon!
	10:05pm Imaginos: I'm getting sleepy as well. Austin, email me when you and Heather are ready to work part 2.
	👻 10:05pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:05 Yes, just waiting for Heather to be available. Sleep well!
	10:09pm JM in Texas: I see you and Austin mentioned in the show notes. I’m partial to the Novem-Drone from a few months ago. Is Big City Orchestra a set group or a smorgasbord of different participants?
	👻 10:12pm ramencity: twitter.com...
	👻 10:12pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:05 Let's get it on the calendar! Was a bit late but I have been tuned in enjoying the show. Re what Krys O was saying about autism in women and girls, goodness yes. I'm of a generation and family culture where, if you were capable of sitting down, shutting up, and acting like everything is fine, then everything is fine. A number of women friends of mine experienced the same and we're all hilarious now! But it likely would have gone better for us if we hadn't learned to pretend so well.
	👻 10:16pm Heather Z: It's always an honor and total privilege to be part of the 4th Sunday Players!! Such a good time and so cool!
	10:16pm Mr. X: My mutation? Mid-valley.
	10:17pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Mr. X @10:16 there ya go!
	👻 10:17pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:16 Yessss
	👻 10:17pm ramencity: ↳ Mr. X @10:16 (actually laughing out loud)
	👻 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Case Studies" by "MKUltramegaphone" This photo does not match up with the performance; it's just one I grabbed from one of our shows, where you can't see horridus' face so well. (He did not like to show his face, or take photos.) To my knowledge, we only have the recording from this session. The samples were edited and dropped in after the music was recorded live, here in the Lava Lamp Lounge.
	10:23pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Case Studies" by "MKUltramegaphone" Recorded at Lava Lamp Lounge?
	👻 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:23 Jinx!
	10:25pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:23 Got it. And the photo looks like The Space.
	👻 10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:23 One of the few times we recorded "tracked out" live to four track, each of us sending two mono signals that I later mixed. Yes, the photo was from one of our Space Shows. I think that might be my 42nd birthday?
	👻 10:27pm Austin Rich: Most of the time, when we recorded, I only got room recordings. (Except when we were on the radio.) Doug Haire did one studio session with us where he recorded / mixed / mastered us for KEXP, and that is the other recording that is on our album.
	10:30pm Mr. X: So you might have a room recording of you guys at the game store in Eugene, with Uneasy Chairs joining you?
	👻 10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:30 I do. And I think horridus recorded himself, and so did Uneasy Chairs. And I have a bunch of video from that show, too.
	10:31pm Mr Fab: Ooooh damn, just read that Brian Wilson’s wife Melinda just died. Speaking of mental illness, she was crucial to Wilson’s recovery. Pretty miraculous- when you get as far gone as Wilson was, you either die, or you join the undead like Syd Barrett or Sly Stone. Hope Brian’s gonna be ok now…
	👻 10:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:31 Oh no! That's terrible news. He has been doing so much better recently.
	10:34pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:31 Nice. That was a great show, despite the small audience.
	👻 10:35pm Austin Rich: I have been combing through all our recordings, and I have been thinking about collecting things into an overview of the work we did, perhaps on a couple more CDs, or some digital release. We shot a bunch of video, too, so maybe a set of DVDs of our stuff is the way to go. If I don't get on it soon, it might be years before I get to it.
	10:36pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:35 It sounds worthwhile. I would buy a CD.
	👻 10:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:34 I think I have audio from all the bands at that show. Some video, but not everything. Again... if I don't get to some of this video soon, it might be years! There's so much to do!
	10:38pm coelacanth∅: i'm curious...is "MKUltramegaphone" in any related to "mk ultra"/Jason Foster/donovan's dreamers?
	10:39pm JM in Texas: Wasn’t the KMUZ MKUltramegaphone/Uneasy Chair episode titled: TheManInTheMoon……from back in 2017ish???
	10:40pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:38 JUICE MACHINE and Hobby Knife were splendid that night as well.
	👻 10:40pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:38 How funny! There isn't a connection (that I know of...). The name was one horridus was really into, and I liked. I'm not sure where he got it, except that it was a reference to Project MKUltra.
	👻 10:40pm Austin Rich: ↳ JM in Texas @10:39 I do have a good two hours of us and Uneasy Chairs doing Moon Riffs from about that time. Good memory!
	👻 10:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:40 Don Haugen found a new toy store, that started putting on experimental shows in Eugene. The one that was scheduled got canceled for ice, but I think there's one in Feb. happening.
	10:44pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:43 I might have to check that out.
	10:44pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:40 i figured not but thought i should ask. i had a tough time finding what little, questionable information i have on this cd i've got. i don't remember where i got it from but fairly likely i bought it from the artist -somewhere in the new paltz area... but i don't remember at all! (www.discogs.com...)
	👻 10:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:44 How funny. I feel like I recall finding a few other acts that had something with "MKUltra" in the name, but we thought ours was so ridiculous that it would be unique.
	10:47pm coelacanth∅: ha, yours is definitely unique!
	10:47pm Mr. X: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:44 There's a phone number on the disc.
	👻 10:48pm univac: Hello, I am back for a bit. Loving this.
	👻 10:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:48 Nice to have you back!
	10:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mr. X @10:47 hahaha...i never even considered calling that number! der
	👻 10:51pm Austin Rich: Probably gonna go over. Strap in!
	👻 10:56pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:46 I mentioned to you, Austin, the 45 Kid DJ here and he often DJed with his then partner, MKUltra. Not long ago at all.
	👻 10:56pm univac: ↳ JM in Texas @10:09 Glad you enjoyed Novemdrone! BCO is a core of Ninah Pxe and dAs with a rotating group of collaborators over the last 44 years.
	👻 10:59pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:56 I tried to arrange to interview dAs once, and instead, he just made me do more radio with him. So I would know more about their history if he wasn't so tricky!
	👻 11:00pm univac: He is a tricksy monkey
	👻 11:01pm Austin Rich: Don Haugen and I bond over how BCO blew our minds. He's a little jealous we get to work with them.
	11:02pm Mr Fab: Someone could probably do a whole show of Syd, Brian Wilson, Wesley Willis, Daniel Johnston, Roky Erickson…
	👻 11:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather Z @10:56 It's probably even more common, as a name, that we realize.
	👻 11:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:02 I've considered it! There's probably more that we're forgetting.
	👻 11:03pm ramencity: Skip Spence...
	👻 11:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @11:03 YES.
	👻 11:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Below The Salt / Who Cares?" by "Unwound" I get this bassline stuck in my head all the time.
	11:06pm Mr. X: The psychiatrist sounds way more depressed than Jackie.
	👻 11:08pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @11:01 Well, he could always collaborate with them...
	👻 11:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Below The Salt / Who Cares?" by "Unwound" I recall, when this album came out, a lot of hipsters HATED it. It was very different from their previous records, and it had taken a long time to record. I think people weren't ready for it. Flash-forward to now, and kids RAVE that this album was ahead of its time... History is often a better judge.
	👻 11:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @11:08 I wonder if he could do an Ub Radio? I should ask him.
	👻 11:11pm univac: That would be fun!
	👻 11:11pm univac: A 4th Sunday? Or music uBshow?
	👻 11:12pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Below The Salt / Who Cares?" by "Unwound" This is the song you'll play when I'm being cremated
	👻 11:12pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @11:10 Agreed. True with most great art.
	👻 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @11:11 I might try to connect him to just do a show with das and Ninah, and sit it out. I really love his style, and I think he would blend in well with them. (Don does very interesting, long-form drones.)
	👻 11:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @11:12 I hope I'm not left behind to have to make that decision! But I'll make a note of it somewhere.
	11:13pm Mr. X: Great show Austin. Thanks for tackling the tough issues in an entertaining way.
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mr Fab @11:02 Ken Freedman did a show, or segment called "music of the mentally challenged" in the ...90s?
	👻 11:13pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @11:12 Excellent! Maybe he'd want to do some voice stuff too for 4th Sun.
	👻 11:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @11:13 Maybe? He's unemployed right now...
	11:14pm coelacanth∅: (guess we could throw Peter Green and James Taylor in there, but then... probably a thousand more)
	👻 11:15pm Austin Rich: Wow, the playlist just kicks over pretty automatically. Weird.
	11:15pm Kat in the chat: Thank you, Austin! Really absorbing listening.
	👻 11:17pm univac: Weird.
	👻 11:17pm univac: Thx Austin!
	👻 11:18pm univac: I smell a reunion.
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Austin! tchau
	👻 11:18pm Austin Rich: Thanks everyone! See ya next time.
	11:19pm JM in Texas: The WFMU app grayed out the “playlist” and “chat” features over last 20ish minutes. Great show tonight!
	11:19pm coelacanth∅: i remember Freedman playing L Ron Hubbard on that music of the mentally challenged show. weird stuff!
	👻 11:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:19 I was trying to think on non-offensive joke inclusions. I think that's the perfect one!
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: haha ... 'night

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from January 30, 2024

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A combination of collage, new experimental records and other bits and bobs, Mid-Valley Mutations is a tour through the mind of Austin Rich, who has been broadcasting in some form since 1998. Heavily influenced by Dr Demento, Don Joyce and old fashioned College Radio, Austin creates Audio Essays on a variety of subjects, and even just plays records, from time to time. Sometimes Live music and Interviews will grace the program, helping create a situation where you don't really know what you're going to hear, when you tune in. What you need to know is when you enter the Mid-Valley region, be prepared for the Musical Mutations... in whatever form they take.

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January 30, 2024: Journey To The Center of The Mind (w/ MKUltramegaphone)

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Following Presentation contains samples from, "Understanding Mental Illness, Episode 1: What is Mental Illness?" part of a documentary series produced by Queens Public Television in 2012. You can see it here: https://youtu.be/8MvY-Qpl1I4?si=pdU0jPGD1gsdEPGa
Part I: Point of Entry "Part I: Point of Entry"
Paco Jones	Austin FM Theme "Austin FM Theme" by "Paco Jones"	Austin FM Theme	Self-Released	2016	0:00:12 (Pop-up)
Fille Qui Mousse	Esplanade [Excerpt]	Trixie Stapleton 291	Bichon Records	2010	0:01:59 (Pop-up)
Part II: Mental Illness Is A Disease "Part II: Mental Illness Is A Disease"
Butthole Surfers	Mark Says Alright [Excerpt I]	Rembrandt Pussyhorse	Touch & Go Records	1986	0:06:40 (Pop-up)
Zac Nelson	Texas Cedarwood (beauty hype suite 1)	Charbroile	Debacle Records	2012	0:09:03 (Pop-up)
Butthole Surfers	Mark Says Alright [Excerpt II]	Rembrandt Pussyhorse	Touch & Go Records	1986	0:17:40 (Pop-up)
Part III: Presents A Challenge "Part III: Presents A Challenge"
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282	Egg Danger	Porcelain Entertainments	Fruit Tree Records	2000	0:28:45 (Pop-up)
Trembling Worm (The Giant Worm meets Trembling Earth Contract)	Endless Questions	Improv Summit 1-20-2018	Previously Unreleased	2018	0:32:58 (Pop-up)
Neu!	Im Glück "Im Glück" by "Neu!"	Neu!	Grönland Records	2010	0:41:13 (Pop-up)
Fille Qui Mousse	Cantate Disparate	Trixie Stapleton 291	Bichon Records	2010	0:47:09 (Pop-up)
Part IV: The Stigma That’s Attached To It.
Rob Jo Star Band	Blood Flower / Stone Away	Rob Jo Star Band	Pomme Records	2010	0:51:32 (Pop-up)
Glands of External Secretion	Wonkatania Freakout	Reverse Atheism	ButtecountyFreeMusicSociety	2011	1:01:40 (Pop-up)
Part V: People With Mental Illness "Part V: People With Mental Illness"
MKUltramegaphone	Case Studies "Case Studies" by "MKUltramegaphone"	17 January 2018	Mid-Valley Mutations	2018	1:19:34 (Pop-up)
Unwound	Below The Salt / Who Cares?	Leaves Turn Inside You	Kill Rock Stars	2001

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Listener comments!
	👻 3:42pm Austin Rich: Good Hello
	8:59pm Imaginos: Ahoy! I have the feeling that tonight is going to be very unusual and amazing
	8:59pm Mr. X: Mind, the gap.
	9:01pm Krys O.: Hellooooo
	👻 9:01pm ramencity: WELCOME TO THE HYVE MYND
	9:02pm Kat in the chat: Me and my brain are present
	9:02pm Geoff-U: Happy T000zday
	9:03pm Imaginos: ↳ ramencity @9:01 We from within the Magna of Illusion thank you
	9:03pm Geoff-U: I kinda want a T-shirt that says "The Mid-Valley: It's In The Middle!"
	9:06pm Imaginos: The mind vs the mirror
	9:07pm Mr Fab: raises hand Present, teacher!
	👻 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:07 Mr. Fab! Nice to see you! And I think I addressed everyone else, but: thanks Imaginos, Mr. X, Krys O, The Ramen City Kid, Kat In The Chat, and Geoff-U! Hopefully we are ready for a journey... INTO THE MIND!
	9:11pm Mr. X: I'm already trapped inside my mind. Been trying to get the hell out.
	👻 9:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:11 Maybe this will be the guide to the way out!
	9:13pm Krys O.: Generational trauma can lead to mental illness.
	9:13pm Mr. X: Sane people drive me crazy!
	👻 9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:13 Very true. There seem to be a number of vectors. The Brain is so complicated.
	9:15pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:13 People who constantly claim to be sane are the ones you have to watch out for.
	9:17pm Krys O.: Cultural differences can be misinterpreted as mental illness, unfortunately. Heck, the concept of hysteria is based on prejudice and misinterpreation: "the Greek notion that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus "
	9:18pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:17 We know better now. But something good did come out of it.
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:17 I think about the cultural difference all the time. All my Peace Corps friends have so many stories of what was normal for where they lived, vs. what is normal for the US. That was sort of an eye opener for me.
	9:19pm Krys O.: ↳ Imaginos @9:18 There's still a long way to go.
	9:20pm Aitch: Lurking, love the Surfers.
	9:21pm Mr. X: Some of the most important people in my life have had mental illness diagnoses, from schizophrenia to PTSD to bipolar disorder. All brilliant people in their own way. And several of them burned so brightly that they burnt out far too early.
	9:21pm Krys O.: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 Interesting. I mentioned it because one of my sisters was a psychiatric nurse who worked in Brooklyn in the 70s and 80s before she moved west. We discussed some of these things when she came home from work when we shared an apartment.
	👻 9:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:20 Aitch! I feel like we've talked about them before. This album in particular, paired with Hairway To Steven, are the ones that got the most play in my house. Those two are SO GOOD.
	9:21pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:19 In the case of mental health, yes. Though they were kind of right in the sense that physical or sexual fulfillment does help the mind relax.
	9:22pm Aitch: R PHorse the first one I bought, astounding record.
	👻 9:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:21 Oh, wow! I bet she has some stories.
	9:22pm Krys O.: ↳ Krys O. @9:21 There was a large population of Haitians in Brooklyn at the time. There were language and cultural issues when emotional issues would arise.
	👻 9:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Aitch @9:22 It holds up very well.
	9:24pm Krys O.: ↳ Austin Rich @9:22 She did. She later worked in geriatric care in psychiatric hospitals. I was very interested in psychology and I was on track to be a social worker in college, but that's another story.
	9:24pm Mr. X: Got the obligatory Amboy Dukes sample out of the way. Check.
	9:25pm Aitch: I've noticed Architects are all somewhere on the spectrum
	9:26pm Imaginos: Albert Bouchard's soulmate used to work in the mental health field working with people who were facing death
	9:26pm Krys O.: ↳ Aitch @9:25 Scientists and engineers, yes. Neurodiversity is seen less and less as a mental health issue though.
	9:28pm Imaginos: You are also appreciated
	👻 9:29pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Egg Danger" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" One of my all-time favorite bands. I've enjoyed every album by Thinking Fellers, and many of their spin-off projects, too! A very excellent band that wound down far too early for my taste.
	9:29pm Krys O.: ↳ Aitch @9:25 There is a very interesting YouTube channel that discusses neurodiversity and they discussed how traits that are often seen in that population can be of great use in research, data analysis, and related professions.
	9:30pm Aitch: ↳ Krys O. @9:26 Not necessarily an impairment, can be an enhancement, for work at least.
	9:30pm Mr. X: Shared a bill with Thinking Fellers one year at the Oly Experimental Fest. My mind was appropriately blown.
	👻 9:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:29 I should check that out.
	9:31pm Krys O.: ↳ Aitch @9:30 Exactly. A superpower, to some degree.
	👻 9:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:30 Never saw them, but saw "White Shark Shivers," which was many of the same members, but with a few differences, but only doing a few similar songs.
	9:31pm Imaginos: ↳ Aitch @9:30 Could it be a form of evolution?
	9:32pm Krys O.: ↳ Imaginos @9:31 Most aspects of life are a form of evolution.
	9:33pm Krys O.: ↳ Austin Rich @9:31 Autism from the Inside is the account: www.youtube.com...
	9:33pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Endless Questions" by "Trembling Worm (The Giant ... !!
	9:33pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:32 Good point
	9:34pm Kat in the chat: Radio Row, the show on the mothership with different guest hosts every week, recently had a show featuring neurodiverse musicians, followed two weeks later by an hour of music/comedy/spoken word on mental health themes.The mind is on WFMU minds lately!
	9:34pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr. X @9:33 I didn't remember that I gave you this.
	👻 9:34pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:33 You sent this to me, back in 2018. I've been sitting on it ever since.
	👻 9:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:34 Woah! And I was thinking about doing more in this series... Our minds are in sync!
	👻 9:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:33 Thanks for the link!
	9:35pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Austin Rich @9:35 Yeah go for it, there's plenty of interest round these parts
	👻 9:36pm Austin Rich: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:35 I had so much picked out for this series, and then never really did much with it. So it is probably time!
	👻 9:37pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:34 What was the story behind this "Improv Summit"? Do you recall?
	9:39pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:37 Gary and I put together a show at Old Nick's, and booked Trembling Earth Contract to play there. It was a mutual admiration thing. We decided we had to jam together.
	👻 9:40pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 This a rehearsal for that show? Did you two play together at that show?
	9:41pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 The jam took place at drummer Cameron's house, in a sort of rural pocket of urban Springfield.
	9:41pm Krys O.: Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder and the Cluster B disorders are tough because they don't respond well to talk therapy and such. My oldest sister has a couple of Cluster B personality disorders and so did my ex. I learned a lot from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy over the years that helps me. I also find comfort from another YouTube account Surviving Narcissism: www.youtube.com... It's impossible for psych hospitals to hold a patient against their will for an extended period of time unless they harm themselves or others which is seen as criminal behavior. That is why these people end up incarcerated. It also has to do with the paranoid beliefs that many patients have about medication. It's tough.
	9:42pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:40 No rehearsal, just spontaneous improv. No we didn't play together at the Old Nick's Show.
	👻 9:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:41 It's such a mess. We have a big hospital here in the Mid-Valley, and I have been curious what kind of volunteer programs they have. It's been on my mind, anyway.
	👻 9:43pm univac: Hello, all!
	👻 9:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:43 univac! Wonderful to see you in the chat!
	👻 9:44pm univac: Hey Austin! Great to be here. Have teleported in for just about 30 min. Loving what I'm hearing.
	9:45pm coelacanth∅: greetings Austin Rich and mid-valley mutants
	👻 9:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:45 coelacanthø! Excellent to have you drop in.
	9:45pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 Trembling Earth Contract is named after a science fiction book, I can't remember the author, but I saw a copy of it at Cameron Wick's house. One of the members of Trembling Earth Contract was Michael Billings, stalwart of the Eugene music scene since the 80s.
	👻 9:46pm Austin Rich: univac and I did a great show together on Sunday, on another station. He's an excellent writing / performing partner, and I'm humbled to have him in my social circle.
	9:46pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @9:41 What's Cluster B? (survivor of a mercifully brief marriage to a narcissist here, as well as a very disturbed mother)
	9:48pm Imaginos: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:46 The only Cluster I can think of is the Capitol of the League of 20,0000 Planets
	9:48pm Krys O.: en.wikipedia.org... The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. In 1981 President Ronald Reagan, who had made major efforts during his Governorship to reduce funding and enlistment for California mental institutions, pushed a political effort through the Democratically controlled House of Representatives and a Republican controlled Senate to repeal most of MHSA.[1] The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy.
	👻 9:48pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @9:46 uhm...uh...wow! Thanks Austin! I'm happy to be able to collaborate with you, and contribute to the degeneration of all the kids out there by way of absurd noise radio drama.
	9:50pm Krys O.: ↳ Kat in the chat @9:46 www.emedicinehealth.com...
	9:51pm Imaginos: ↳ univac @9:48 Austin is a great collaborator
	👻 9:51pm univac: Definitely.
	👻 9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:48 I do what I can, anyway.
	9:52pm JM in Texas: Hello everyone! Where can we find a link to the radio show univac/Austin Rich did Sunday?
	👻 9:52pm univac: We have some great 4th Sunday Players uBradio shows coming up.
	👻 9:53pm univac: ↳ JM in Texas @9:52 All the uBradios are on your favorite podcast stream, and also on Archive.org
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ JM in Texas @9:52 I don't think there's an archived link yet, but here's a link to all my uB Radio Salon appearances, and most of them include univac, too: midvalleymutations.com...
	👻 9:54pm Austin Rich: ↳ Austin Rich @9:53 (I think the one from Sunday will get posted this Thursday?)
	👻 9:55pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Blood Flower / Stone Away" by "Rob Jo Star Band" A seriously overlooked piece of French Music that I am in love with. This album got re-issued in 2010, but I think it's much older. I recommend it!
	👻 9:55pm univac: Austin and I have done every 5th/5th (sometimes 3rd) Sunday for, um, wow over 2 years now. Austin's link above is great too! Thursday our show should be posted on archive.org then podcast on Friday.
	9:55pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @9:50 thank you Krys! I was aware of most of those disorders but not of the "cluster" classifications.
	👻 9:55pm univac: (That is supposed to be every 4th/5th)
	9:56pm Krys O.: I saw a few therapists in the past and one of them misdiagnosed me as schizoid. It's more likely that I'm neurodivergent. She was the only one that came to that conclusion.
	👻 9:56pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @9:55 Great track!
	9:57pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @9:56 Definitely sounds like a misdiagnosis to me
	👻 9:57pm Austin Rich: I feel like misdiagnosis can be so easy. Finding the right match for treatment is so difficult.
	9:57pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Blood Flower / Stone Away" by "Rob Jo Star Band" Kind of like Gong meets CAN.
	👻 9:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:57 Sort of! That's a very good observation.
	9:58pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:56 Happened to me, too. But in my case when my parents took me for a second opinion the new doctor just saw what the first had decided and their diagnosis was affected by that label
	9:59pm Krys O.: Many women and girls on the spectrum are never diagnosed because the prevailing focus has been on the behavior of men and boys with neurodiversity. AND because women and girls become adept at "masking." The term “autism masking” is used to describe behaviors used by people with ASD to suppress or hide the signature characteristics of the disorder. It can also mean mirroring the behavior of neurotypical people and developing “scripts” that work in social situations
	9:59pm JM in Texas: Thx, I’m all over the UBRadio_salon pods. I’ll keep an ear out! Austin - enjoyed your contribution to the GX Jupiter-Larsen: Art Cars and other Machines: https://youtu.be/00mvvgs96GM?si=61bx98ZwmbzRjyLC
	10:00pm Krys O.: Thanks, Austin for doing this. Wish I could stay up, but I have to get some sleep. Take care!
	👻 10:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ JM in Texas @9:59 I haven't see this! GX is on my mailing list, so I do send him a lot of stuff.
	10:01pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:59 Also because most government insurance doesn't cover testing for autism
	👻 10:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @10:00 Sleep is very important for Mental Health! Get some... and thanks for your wiggle room tonight!
	10:01pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Krys O. @10:00 Sleep well, Krys!
	10:02pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Austin Rich @10:01 It's important for physical health too. I've finally gained some respect for that.
	10:02pm JM in Texas: One does enjoy a good Satanic plot!
	👻 10:03pm univac: ↳ JM in Texas @9:59 Glad you're enjoying them! dAs and Ninah do the main show and Austin and I plug in with script and noises periodically.
	👻 10:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Kat in the chat @10:02 True. I'm a bad sleeper. I need to get on it.
	👻 10:05pm univac: I have to git. Thx Austin for a great show. Talk to you soon.
	👻 10:05pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:05 Indeed! Talk soon!
	10:05pm Imaginos: I'm getting sleepy as well. Austin, email me when you and Heather are ready to work part 2.
	👻 10:05pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:05 Yes, just waiting for Heather to be available. Sleep well!
	10:09pm JM in Texas: I see you and Austin mentioned in the show notes. I’m partial to the Novem-Drone from a few months ago. Is Big City Orchestra a set group or a smorgasbord of different participants?
	👻 10:12pm ramencity: twitter.com...
	👻 10:12pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:05 Let's get it on the calendar! Was a bit late but I have been tuned in enjoying the show. Re what Krys O was saying about autism in women and girls, goodness yes. I'm of a generation and family culture where, if you were capable of sitting down, shutting up, and acting like everything is fine, then everything is fine. A number of women friends of mine experienced the same and we're all hilarious now! But it likely would have gone better for us if we hadn't learned to pretend so well.
	👻 10:16pm Heather Z: It's always an honor and total privilege to be part of the 4th Sunday Players!! Such a good time and so cool!
	10:16pm Mr. X: My mutation? Mid-valley.
	10:17pm Kat in the chat: ↳ Mr. X @10:16 there ya go!
	👻 10:17pm Heather Z: ↳ Mr. X @10:16 Yessss
	👻 10:17pm ramencity: ↳ Mr. X @10:16 (actually laughing out loud)
	👻 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Case Studies" by "MKUltramegaphone" This photo does not match up with the performance; it's just one I grabbed from one of our shows, where you can't see horridus' face so well. (He did not like to show his face, or take photos.) To my knowledge, we only have the recording from this session. The samples were edited and dropped in after the music was recorded live, here in the Lava Lamp Lounge.
	10:23pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Case Studies" by "MKUltramegaphone" Recorded at Lava Lamp Lounge?
	👻 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:23 Jinx!
	10:25pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:23 Got it. And the photo looks like The Space.
	👻 10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:23 One of the few times we recorded "tracked out" live to four track, each of us sending two mono signals that I later mixed. Yes, the photo was from one of our Space Shows. I think that might be my 42nd birthday?
	👻 10:27pm Austin Rich: Most of the time, when we recorded, I only got room recordings. (Except when we were on the radio.) Doug Haire did one studio session with us where he recorded / mixed / mastered us for KEXP, and that is the other recording that is on our album.
	10:30pm Mr. X: So you might have a room recording of you guys at the game store in Eugene, with Uneasy Chairs joining you?
	👻 10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:30 I do. And I think horridus recorded himself, and so did Uneasy Chairs. And I have a bunch of video from that show, too.
	10:31pm Mr Fab: Ooooh damn, just read that Brian Wilson’s wife Melinda just died. Speaking of mental illness, she was crucial to Wilson’s recovery. Pretty miraculous- when you get as far gone as Wilson was, you either die, or you join the undead like Syd Barrett or Sly Stone. Hope Brian’s gonna be ok now…
	👻 10:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:31 Oh no! That's terrible news. He has been doing so much better recently.
	10:34pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:31 Nice. That was a great show, despite the small audience.
	👻 10:35pm Austin Rich: I have been combing through all our recordings, and I have been thinking about collecting things into an overview of the work we did, perhaps on a couple more CDs, or some digital release. We shot a bunch of video, too, so maybe a set of DVDs of our stuff is the way to go. If I don't get on it soon, it might be years before I get to it.
	10:36pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:35 It sounds worthwhile. I would buy a CD.
	👻 10:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:34 I think I have audio from all the bands at that show. Some video, but not everything. Again... if I don't get to some of this video soon, it might be years! There's so much to do!
	10:38pm coelacanth∅: i'm curious...is "MKUltramegaphone" in any related to "mk ultra"/Jason Foster/donovan's dreamers?
	10:39pm JM in Texas: Wasn’t the KMUZ MKUltramegaphone/Uneasy Chair episode titled: TheManInTheMoon……from back in 2017ish???
	10:40pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:38 JUICE MACHINE and Hobby Knife were splendid that night as well.
	👻 10:40pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:38 How funny! There isn't a connection (that I know of...). The name was one horridus was really into, and I liked. I'm not sure where he got it, except that it was a reference to Project MKUltra.
	👻 10:40pm Austin Rich: ↳ JM in Texas @10:39 I do have a good two hours of us and Uneasy Chairs doing Moon Riffs from about that time. Good memory!
	👻 10:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:40 Don Haugen found a new toy store, that started putting on experimental shows in Eugene. The one that was scheduled got canceled for ice, but I think there's one in Feb. happening.
	10:44pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:43 I might have to check that out.
	10:44pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @10:40 i figured not but thought i should ask. i had a tough time finding what little, questionable information i have on this cd i've got. i don't remember where i got it from but fairly likely i bought it from the artist -somewhere in the new paltz area... but i don't remember at all! (www.discogs.com...)
	👻 10:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:44 How funny. I feel like I recall finding a few other acts that had something with "MKUltra" in the name, but we thought ours was so ridiculous that it would be unique.
	10:47pm coelacanth∅: ha, yours is definitely unique!
	10:47pm Mr. X: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:44 There's a phone number on the disc.
	👻 10:48pm univac: Hello, I am back for a bit. Loving this.
	👻 10:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:48 Nice to have you back!
	10:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mr. X @10:47 hahaha...i never even considered calling that number! der
	👻 10:51pm Austin Rich: Probably gonna go over. Strap in!
	👻 10:56pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:46 I mentioned to you, Austin, the 45 Kid DJ here and he often DJed with his then partner, MKUltra. Not long ago at all.
	👻 10:56pm univac: ↳ JM in Texas @10:09 Glad you enjoyed Novemdrone! BCO is a core of Ninah Pxe and dAs with a rotating group of collaborators over the last 44 years.
	👻 10:59pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:56 I tried to arrange to interview dAs once, and instead, he just made me do more radio with him. So I would know more about their history if he wasn't so tricky!
	👻 11:00pm univac: He is a tricksy monkey
	👻 11:01pm Austin Rich: Don Haugen and I bond over how BCO blew our minds. He's a little jealous we get to work with them.
	11:02pm Mr Fab: Someone could probably do a whole show of Syd, Brian Wilson, Wesley Willis, Daniel Johnston, Roky Erickson…
	👻 11:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather Z @10:56 It's probably even more common, as a name, that we realize.
	👻 11:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:02 I've considered it! There's probably more that we're forgetting.
	👻 11:03pm ramencity: Skip Spence...
	👻 11:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @11:03 YES.
	👻 11:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Below The Salt / Who Cares?" by "Unwound" I get this bassline stuck in my head all the time.
	11:06pm Mr. X: The psychiatrist sounds way more depressed than Jackie.
	👻 11:08pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @11:01 Well, he could always collaborate with them...
	👻 11:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Below The Salt / Who Cares?" by "Unwound" I recall, when this album came out, a lot of hipsters HATED it. It was very different from their previous records, and it had taken a long time to record. I think people weren't ready for it. Flash-forward to now, and kids RAVE that this album was ahead of its time... History is often a better judge.
	👻 11:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @11:08 I wonder if he could do an Ub Radio? I should ask him.
	👻 11:11pm univac: That would be fun!
	👻 11:11pm univac: A 4th Sunday? Or music uBshow?
	👻 11:12pm ramencity: ↳ Song: "Below The Salt / Who Cares?" by "Unwound" This is the song you'll play when I'm being cremated
	👻 11:12pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @11:10 Agreed. True with most great art.
	👻 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @11:11 I might try to connect him to just do a show with das and Ninah, and sit it out. I really love his style, and I think he would blend in well with them. (Don does very interesting, long-form drones.)
	👻 11:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @11:12 I hope I'm not left behind to have to make that decision! But I'll make a note of it somewhere.
	11:13pm Mr. X: Great show Austin. Thanks for tackling the tough issues in an entertaining way.
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mr Fab @11:02 Ken Freedman did a show, or segment called "music of the mentally challenged" in the ...90s?
	👻 11:13pm univac: ↳ Austin Rich @11:12 Excellent! Maybe he'd want to do some voice stuff too for 4th Sun.
	👻 11:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @11:13 Maybe? He's unemployed right now...
	11:14pm coelacanth∅: (guess we could throw Peter Green and James Taylor in there, but then... probably a thousand more)
	👻 11:15pm Austin Rich: Wow, the playlist just kicks over pretty automatically. Weird.
	11:15pm Kat in the chat: Thank you, Austin! Really absorbing listening.
	👻 11:17pm univac: Weird.
	👻 11:17pm univac: Thx Austin!
	👻 11:18pm univac: I smell a reunion.
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Austin! tchau
	👻 11:18pm Austin Rich: Thanks everyone! See ya next time.
	11:19pm JM in Texas: The WFMU app grayed out the “playlist” and “chat” features over last 20ish minutes. Great show tonight!
	11:19pm coelacanth∅: i remember Freedman playing L Ron Hubbard on that music of the mentally challenged show. weird stuff!
	👻 11:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:19 I was trying to think on non-offensive joke inclusions. I think that's the perfect one!
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: haha ... 'night

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from January 30, 2024

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