WFMU: Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from May 28, 2024

Listener comments!
	👻 7:47pm Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	8:57pm Imaginos: Ahoy!
	8:57pm Mr. X: It can start in New Jersey.
	👻 8:58pm Austin Rich: Nice to see you, Mr. X and Imaginos! Hopefully you are ready for some upbeat rock and roll.
	8:59pm Imaginos: I am.
	8:59pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @8:58 Always
	9:01pm Imaginos: Punk on war. Anyone else got Tank Girl on the brain?
	9:01pm Mr. X: Good theme for punk rock.
	👻 9:01pm Austin Rich: Love me some Tank Girl! Those comics are so much fun.
	👻 9:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:01 Seemed good for Post-Memorial Day
	9:02pm Imaginos: Heavy Metal mag did a cool issue called War Machine
	9:03pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:01 I remember the story line where she was pregnant and had a tank
	👻 9:04pm ramencity: ooh time to get grumpy!
	9:04pm Imaginos: Cross between Reg and Breughal.
	9:07pm Imaginos: Clash?
	9:08pm Imaginos: You should hear Imaginos II Bombs Over Germany
	9:09pm Mr. X: The Falklands was the war of the moment during Maggie's reign.
	👻 9:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:09 True! It makes sense that they would be activated by both their own recent history and the current war.
	👻 9:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:07 Not in this show. But they have plenty of songs that would fit this theme.
	9:12pm Mr. X: When my mom toured Europe in 1955, she was struck by the amount of desolation throughout Europe 10 years after WWII.
	👻 9:13pm Austin Rich: There is a pretty grim sense of humor to be joking about nazis and Belsen, certainly. Punk rock can be hard to take, because they are more than happy to make a joke that is "too soon." Hopefully this doesn't push any buttons with anyone. Even years later, WWII isn't exactly a joke.
	👻 9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:12 That is always what I heard: that the kids for a couple generations afterwards were stuck with the destruction that had happened during the war, because clean-up was just a massive effort.
	9:15pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:13 Tom Lehrer had a few songs of the same ilk
	👻 9:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:15 True. I love Tom Lehrer, but I could see some people not being very excited about some of his songs. ("We Will All Go Together When We Go.")
	9:17pm Imaginos: Best war song I ever heard was Red Sector A by Rush
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:17 You've talked about that song before! And I have a terrible memory for Rush, so it's not coming to mind.
	9:19pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:13 Sometimes when a topic is too precious to discuss in polite company, it takes a punk rock joke to bring it to the fore and make us deal with it with the brutal honesty that's required.
	9:19pm Imaginos: I even had an idea for a Max Headroom prequel from it where Bryce Lynch is the one in the song.
	👻 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Agreed.
	9:20pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Very true. Music and comedy are the best filters for touchy subjects
	9:21pm Imaginos: All that we can do is just survive All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive. -Red Sector A
	9:21pm Mr. X: ...Thinking of Mel Brooks' "Springtime for Hitler," and Spike Jones "Der Fuhrer."
	👻 9:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:21 Both would have made good punks in different eras.
	9:23pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:22 Lots of swing era songs would be good as Punk
	👻 9:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Wardance (Peel Sessions)" by "Killing Joke" This made me remember how much I like early Killing Joke, and how sad I am that they essentially became a different band later.
	9:28pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Wardance (Peel Sessions)" by "Killing Joke" Kudos to John Peel, really well recorded.
	9:37pm Mr. X: Did I know someone with a Crass tattoo? Vague memory says yes.
	9:38pm coelacanth∅: greetings Austin, mutants
	👻 9:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:37 I don't have one, but I know a few people who got them as youth. I do like their music and message.
	9:39pm Imaginos: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:38 Ahoy!
	👻 9:39pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:38 coelacanthø! Thanks for coming over the the neighbor's house with the good turntable and all the 45s.
	9:41pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Imaginos @9:39 Aloha!
	👻 9:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Unamerican Activity" by "Inclusions" Classic punk move: equate Ronald Regan with Nazis.
	9:42pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @9:39 i brought my Billy Joel 45s
	9:42pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 Star faving this one.
	👻 9:42pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:42 Billy Joel's street punk era, right?
	9:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Unamerican Activity" by "Inclusions" any enemy to ronald reagan is a friend of mine
	9:43pm Imaginos: Getting sleepy. Woken up at 3am by cat
	👻 9:44pm Austin Rich: I recall the day Regan died. We had a party, and I bought a fancy bottle of wine. It was a good party.
	9:44pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @9:42 yeah... "you may be right, i may be crazy"! ...'guy's so badassssss
	9:44pm Mr. X: ↳ Imaginos @9:43 Cat doing its job.
	9:45pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:44 Yup
	👻 9:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:43 Sleep Well.
	👻 9:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Army Now" by "Futurisk" It's not a futurist, its a FUTURISK!
	9:47pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Army Now" by "Futurisk" Gotta love when they use electronica in punk.
	👻 9:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:44 There was an old "Sharpling and Wurster" routine about Billy Joel's "Street Punk" era, so I can't take credit for that joke.
	👻 9:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:47 Agreed. I always wanted to be the keyboard player in a punk band.
	9:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @9:44 i just told people it was far too late to matter. irrepairable damage done.
	9:48pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:47 Hey, if Pat Boone can go metal, I guess Billy Joel can go punk.
	👻 9:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:48 True. It was such a mess after him. Still is!
	9:50pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:48 Or, as the Minutemen say, "I'm so tired of living Nixon's mess."
	👻 9:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:50 Yeah. I guess he was setting the stage for all the bullshit we'd have to deal with in the years afterwards.
	👻 9:52pm ramencity: I wonder if steampunks sang angry vaudeville songs about McKinley...
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:52 There was so much to get angry about!
	9:56pm coelacanth∅: nixon was a double-edged sword. scumbag as he was, he did some very good things too. the reagan administration (the bush family, essentially) set up everything for what we have now, and what's coming. i'm not sure he ever did ANYTHING for the good of the people.
	👻 9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:52 (If only I could remember ANYTHING about McKinley without googling it...)
	9:56pm Mr Fab: Hey Austin- Let’s have a war! So you can go die! (Not you personally, of course)
	9:57pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @9:56 Jack up the Dow Jones.
	👻 9:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:56 There's so many classic punk songs about war, this theme could come back.
	👻 9:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Soldier Boy" by "No Shelter" Someone might have an Elvis Costello record in his collection.
	9:59pm Mr Fab: Mr X mentioned The Minutemen. “King of the Hill” is a good ‘un: “ is it peace to point the gun? Is it war to fire the gun?“
	👻 9:59pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:59 So many good Minutemen lines, too!
	10:00pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:58 Or the Shirelles.
	10:02pm Mr Fab: The Israel /Gaza thing reminds me of a line from X: “both sides are right/ but both sides murder/ I give up…/ why can’t they? (I must not think bad thoughts, I must not think bad thoughts…)”
	👻 10:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:02 I feel like there are so many insights in X songs. I love John & Exene's lyrics.
	👻 10:12pm Austin Rich: What I love about this comp series is that it seems to include a lot of bands that we wouldn't really call "punk" these days, as they just sound like rock & roll bands. The pre-punk and proto-punk "garage rock" world of bands that were "harder" that the 60's psyche but heavy metal and punk didn't exist yet is pretty vast, and there's a lot of bands that just didn't fit into the other scenes, and sort of wound up as "punk-adjacent" as punk started to develop.
	10:17pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:12 Indeed, I was just admiring the thoroughness - including all the photos for the "cover" graphics. Wish there was a key, though, to tell which band goes with which photo.
	👻 10:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:17 You have to do a secondary level of legwork, and look up the band on discogs. But often the B-Side to the single turns up on another installment of the same series, of you can hear the "complete" single, for some bands.
	👻 10:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Third World War" by "Dog Detachment" Probably the most unfortunately "slim" installment of the series, Vol 100 is "The Rest of The World," and as I have mentioned, Asia is not represented, there's not really much from South America, and there are many other blind spots. (I would love a comprehensive compilation of Asian Punk, multiple volumes, if possible.) But you can't have everything...
	10:28pm Mr. X: We've kind of already had 2 or 3 World War IIIs at this point, haven't we? It's like the apocalypse, it keeps being about to happen, and then they say, "Oh, never mind, that wasn't really the apocalypse, maybe next week..."
	👻 10:28pm Austin Rich: It certainly feels like it.
	👻 10:29pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "World War III" by "Powerage" One of the more fun parts of this song is how completely they fall apart while they are playing it.
	👻 10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "World War 4" by "Reactors" Well, even if there have been too many WWIII's, here's a WW4 just in case.
	10:31pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:22 I was talking to a Korean American DJ who said there really isn’t much of a rock tradition there. And that might count for much of Asia. Except of course Japan, which has a crazy rich rock tradition. But even there wasn’t much punk til the late ‘80s, according to Mike Rogers.
	10:32pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:31 I was gonna say, finally someone counted them.
	👻 10:41pm Austin Rich: I was thinking of doing a "short songs" show here, but it is sort of a logistical nightmare to get the info entered and then publish the songs in the feed quickly. It could be done, but I might not be able to be in the chat for a show like that.
	10:41pm Mr Fab: Funny thing, Japanese don’t understand rock n roll as rebellious! They have a much more collectivist mindset, so have no need to rebel against “the system.” A running joke on the Mike Rogers Show was, despite all the leather jackets and loud noise, all the songs were about food and cats.
	👻 10:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:41 That sort of makes me love it more. I think 95% of Guitar Wolf songs are about how great rock and roll is. The rest are about motorcycles and haircombing.
	10:44pm Mr. X: I do need to listen to more Shonen Knife.
	👻 10:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:44 They are very excellent. I regret not making a harder effort to see them live when I could have. The 5.6.7.8's are also very excellent.
	10:45pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:43 They DO have great hairstyles. Greaser perfection.
	👻 10:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:45 Both times that I saw them, they opened the show with an instrumental being played through the speakers, while they combed their hair for a few minutes. It was great.
	10:50pm coelacanth∅: gotta go Thanks Austin Rich! 'night y'all
	👻 10:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:50 See ya next time. Thanks!
	10:51pm Mr. X: Catch you on the flip side, coelacanth∅.
	👻 10:52pm Heather: Just popping in to say it's been a super fun show and thanks for the tunes! Been dialed in and doing a little craft project here tonight!
	👻 10:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather @10:52 Thanks for saying hello!
	👻 10:55pm Heather: ↳ Austin Rich @10:53 Nice to hear Patrick Fitzgerald in the mix! My friend Renee turned me onto his music when we were young and I've had a safety pin stuck in my heart since.
	10:55pm Mr. X: If there is a future beyond the Cold War, people will have trouble comprehending the existential dread we have been living under for a few generations now. But hopefully some of these punk songs will get the idea across.
	10:55pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Warhead" by "UK Subs" Jamie Oliver of the UK Subs is in a new band with Greg Norton of Husker Du. No, not celebrity chef Jaime Oliver. But that Wouldn’t be too crazy: Norton was also a chef and restaurant owner. They could have said, “These guys are cookin’.” (Sorry)
	👻 11:02pm Austin Rich: Thanks again everyone! We'll see ya'll next week!
	11:02pm Mr. X: Great selections tonight! Thanks for the show, Austin!
	11:04pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Class War" by "Plain Jane & The Jokes" Covering the Dils!
	👻 11:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:04 In 81! It's pretty cool.
	11:05pm Mr Fab: Super awesome show, Austin! Anarchy, the only way!

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from May 28, 2024

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A combination of collage, new experimental records and other bits and bobs, Mid-Valley Mutations is a tour through the mind of Austin Rich, who has been broadcasting in some form since 1998. Heavily influenced by Dr Demento, Don Joyce and old fashioned College Radio, Austin creates Audio Essays on a variety of subjects, and even just plays records, from time to time. Sometimes Live music and Interviews will grace the program, helping create a situation where you don't really know what you're going to hear, when you tune in. What you need to know is when you enter the Mid-Valley region, be prepared for the Musical Mutations... in whatever form they take.

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May 28, 2024: Once Upon A Time - Punk On War (A Grumpy Punk History Lesson)

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Artist	Track	Album	Comments	Approx. start time
WWII Redux "WWII Redux"
Faction	Obligatory War Song "Obligatory War Song" by "Faction"	Once Upon A Time Vol 085 - UK '82 Part 2	(Hackney, Greater London)	0:00:07 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Midnite Cruiser	Striker "Striker" by "Midnite Cruiser"	Once Upon A Time Vol 031 - Ireland '77 - '79	(Belfast, '77)	0:02:47 (Pop-up)
Skunks	Dance With The Führer "Dance With The Führer" by "Skunks"	Once Upon A Time Vol 075 - Australia '80 - '83	(Adelaide, '82)	0:08:52 (Pop-up)
Norge Bank	Springtime In Belsen "Springtime In Belsen" by "Norge Bank"	Once Upon A Time Vol 096 - Denmark, Norway & Finland '80	(Norway)	0:11:19 (Pop-up)
Interterrör	Felices Dias En Auschwitz	Once Upon A Time Vol 057 - Spain '78 - '83	(Valencia, '83)	0:12:40 (Pop-up)
Sjølmord	Holocaust "Holocaust" by "Sjølmord"	Once Upon A Time Vol 096 - Denmark, Norway & Finland '80	(Norway)	0:15:03 (Pop-up)
Kaare Og Partiet	Holocaust "Holocaust" by "Kaare Og Partiet"	Once Upon A Time Vol 096 - Denmark, Norway & Finland '80	(Norway)	0:17:48 (Pop-up)
KGB	Luftwaffe "Luftwaffe" by "KGB"	Once Upon A Time Vol 057 - Spain '78 - '83	(Granada, '83)	0:20:37 (Pop-up)
Matchheads	Pearl Harbor "Pearl Harbor" by "Matchheads"	Once Upon A Time Vol 060 - Northern California & Pacific Northwest '81 - '83	(San Francisco, California, '81)	0:23:15 (Pop-up)
Killing Joke	Wardance (Peel Sessions)	Once Upon A Time Vol 053 - UK October '79	(Ibid)	0:24:55 (Pop-up)
In The Army Now "In The Army Now"
Music behind DJ: Scabs	So Called Friends "So Called Friends" by "Scabs"	Once Upon A Time Vol 099 - Belgium '80 - '84	(Diest, ‘81)	0:28:39 (Pop-up)
Crass	Bloody Revolutions "Bloody Revolutions" by "Crass"	Once Upon A Time Vol 076 - UK '80 Part 1	(Ibid)	0:34:21 (Pop-up)
Inclusions	Unamerican Activity "Unamerican Activity" by "Inclusions"	Once Upon A Time Vol 070 - The Midwest (The Rest) '80 - '83	(Minneapolis, Minnesota, '80)	0:40:22 (Pop-up)
Futurisk	Army Now "Army Now" by "Futurisk"	Once Upon A Time Vol 066 - The Southeast '80 - '83	(Miami, Florida, '80)	0:44:24 (Pop-up)
Briard	Fuck The Army "Fuck The Army" by "Briard"	Once Upon A Time Vol 045 - Denmark, Norway & Finland '77 - '79	(Finland, '78)	0:48:42 (Pop-up)
Icons of FIlth	Your Military "Your Military" by "Icons of FIlth"	Once Upon A Time Vol 085 - UK '82 Part 2	(Caerdydd, Wales, '82)	0:51:13 (Pop-up)
Zynthslakt	Tenthousand Soldiers "Tenthousand Soldiers" by "Zynthslakt"	Once Upon A Time Vol 093 - Sweden '82 - '84	(Köping, ‘84)	0:53:44 (Pop-up)
No Shelter	Soldier Boy "Soldier Boy" by "No Shelter"	Once Upon A Time Vol 022 - DC & The Surrounding Area '77 - '79	(Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, '78)	0:55:18 (Pop-up)
Bombs & Future Wars "Bombs & Future Wars"
Music behind DJ: Rubella Ballet	Belfast "Belfast" by "Rubella Ballet"	Once Upon A Time Vol 085 - UK '82 Part 2	(London, Greater London, '82)	0:59:58 (Pop-up)
Funeral	Waiting for the Bomb Blast	Once Upon A Time Vol 062 - Southern California '81	(Long Beach, '81)	1:06:49 (Pop-up)
Aedi	La Bomba Atomica "La Bomba Atomica" by "Aedi"	Once Upon A Time Vol 044 - Italy '77 - '82	(Milan, '77)	1:09:38 (Pop-up)
The Stranglers	Nuclear Device "Nuclear Device" by "The Stranglers"	Once Upon A Time Vol 053 - UK October '79	(Ibid)	1:12:11 (Pop-up)
Suburban Reptiles	Megaton "Megaton" by "Suburban Reptiles"	Once Upon A Time Vol 095 - New Zealand '77 - '84	(Auckland, ‘77)	1:15:34 (Pop-up)
Dog Detachment	Third World War "Third World War" by "Dog Detachment"	Once Upon A Time Vol 100 - The Rest Of The World '77 - '84	(South Africa, ‘81)	1:19:57 (Pop-up)
PVC	Waiting For Worldwar 3 "Waiting For Worldwar 3" by "PVC"	Once Upon A Time Vol 056 - Germany '76 - '79	(79)	1:23:19 (Pop-up)
Powerage	World War III "World War III" by "Powerage"	Once Upon A Time Vol 100 - The Rest Of The World '77 - '84	(South Africa, ‘83)	1:25:26 (Pop-up)
TST	Third World War "Third World War" by "TST"	Once Upon A Time Vol 093 - Sweden '82 - '84	(Västeras, ‘82)	1:28:45 (Pop-up)
Reactors	World War 4 "World War 4" by "Reactors"	Once Upon A Time Vol 061 - Southern California '80	(Los Angeles, '80)	1:30:22 (Pop-up)
Cold Wars "Cold Wars"
Music behind DJ: Blinders	This Isn't My Mother's Car	Once Upon A Time Vol 019 - The Midwest '79	(Louisville, Kentucky, 79)	1:32:15 (Pop-up)
Haskels	Taking The City By Storm "Taking The City By Storm" by "Haskels"	Once Upon A Time Vol 070 - The Midwest (The Rest) '80 - '83	(Milwaukee, Wisconsin, '80)	1:37:19 (Pop-up)
Defiant Pose	Someone Else's War "Someone Else's War" by "Defiant Pose"	Once Upon A Time Vol 081 - UK '81 Part 3	(Paisley, Renfrewshire, '81)	1:39:31 (Pop-up)
Patrick Fitzgerald	Irrelevant Battles	Once Upon A Time Vol 040 - UK September to October '78	(10/78)	1:42:32 (Pop-up)
Rezillos	Cold Wars "Cold Wars" by "Rezillos"	Once Upon A Time Vol 048 - UK April to May '79	(04/79)	1:44:20 (Pop-up)
Discharge	Realities Of War "Realities Of War" by "Discharge"	Once Upon A Time Vol 076 - UK '80 Part 1	(Ibid)	1:47:17 (Pop-up)
UK Subs	Warhead "Warhead" by "UK Subs"	Once Upon A Time Vol 076 - UK '80 Part 1	(London, Greater London, '80)	1:48:27 (Pop-up)
Lars Langs	Doomsday "Doomsday" by "Lars Langs"	Once Upon A Time Vol 091 - Sweden '80	(Gävle, '80)	1:51:12 (Pop-up)
Enemy	50,000 Dead "50,000 Dead" by "Enemy"	Once Upon A Time Vol 081 - UK '81 Part 3	(Derby, Derbyshire, '81)	1:52:53 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: NNB	Slack "Slack" by "NNB"	Once Upon A Time Vol 018 - The Midwest '78 - '79	(Minneapolis, Minnesota, 78)	1:55:34 (Pop-up)
Plain Jane & The Jokes	Class War "Class War" by "Plain Jane & The Jokes"	Once Upon A Time Vol 060 - Northern California & Pacific Northwest '81 - '83	(San Francisco, California, '81)	2:01:44 (Pop-up)
War Risk 3	Final Solution "Final Solution" by "War Risk 3"	Once Upon A Time Vol 099 - Belgium '80 - '84	(Denderleeuw, ‘84)	2:02:53 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	👻 7:47pm Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	8:57pm Imaginos: Ahoy!
	8:57pm Mr. X: It can start in New Jersey.
	👻 8:58pm Austin Rich: Nice to see you, Mr. X and Imaginos! Hopefully you are ready for some upbeat rock and roll.
	8:59pm Imaginos: I am.
	8:59pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @8:58 Always
	9:01pm Imaginos: Punk on war. Anyone else got Tank Girl on the brain?
	9:01pm Mr. X: Good theme for punk rock.
	👻 9:01pm Austin Rich: Love me some Tank Girl! Those comics are so much fun.
	👻 9:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:01 Seemed good for Post-Memorial Day
	9:02pm Imaginos: Heavy Metal mag did a cool issue called War Machine
	9:03pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:01 I remember the story line where she was pregnant and had a tank
	👻 9:04pm ramencity: ooh time to get grumpy!
	9:04pm Imaginos: Cross between Reg and Breughal.
	9:07pm Imaginos: Clash?
	9:08pm Imaginos: You should hear Imaginos II Bombs Over Germany
	9:09pm Mr. X: The Falklands was the war of the moment during Maggie's reign.
	👻 9:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:09 True! It makes sense that they would be activated by both their own recent history and the current war.
	👻 9:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:07 Not in this show. But they have plenty of songs that would fit this theme.
	9:12pm Mr. X: When my mom toured Europe in 1955, she was struck by the amount of desolation throughout Europe 10 years after WWII.
	👻 9:13pm Austin Rich: There is a pretty grim sense of humor to be joking about nazis and Belsen, certainly. Punk rock can be hard to take, because they are more than happy to make a joke that is "too soon." Hopefully this doesn't push any buttons with anyone. Even years later, WWII isn't exactly a joke.
	👻 9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:12 That is always what I heard: that the kids for a couple generations afterwards were stuck with the destruction that had happened during the war, because clean-up was just a massive effort.
	9:15pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:13 Tom Lehrer had a few songs of the same ilk
	👻 9:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:15 True. I love Tom Lehrer, but I could see some people not being very excited about some of his songs. ("We Will All Go Together When We Go.")
	9:17pm Imaginos: Best war song I ever heard was Red Sector A by Rush
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:17 You've talked about that song before! And I have a terrible memory for Rush, so it's not coming to mind.
	9:19pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:13 Sometimes when a topic is too precious to discuss in polite company, it takes a punk rock joke to bring it to the fore and make us deal with it with the brutal honesty that's required.
	9:19pm Imaginos: I even had an idea for a Max Headroom prequel from it where Bryce Lynch is the one in the song.
	👻 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Agreed.
	9:20pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Very true. Music and comedy are the best filters for touchy subjects
	9:21pm Imaginos: All that we can do is just survive All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive. -Red Sector A
	9:21pm Mr. X: ...Thinking of Mel Brooks' "Springtime for Hitler," and Spike Jones "Der Fuhrer."
	👻 9:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:21 Both would have made good punks in different eras.
	9:23pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:22 Lots of swing era songs would be good as Punk
	👻 9:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Wardance (Peel Sessions)" by "Killing Joke" This made me remember how much I like early Killing Joke, and how sad I am that they essentially became a different band later.
	9:28pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Wardance (Peel Sessions)" by "Killing Joke" Kudos to John Peel, really well recorded.
	9:37pm Mr. X: Did I know someone with a Crass tattoo? Vague memory says yes.
	9:38pm coelacanth∅: greetings Austin, mutants
	👻 9:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:37 I don't have one, but I know a few people who got them as youth. I do like their music and message.
	9:39pm Imaginos: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:38 Ahoy!
	👻 9:39pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:38 coelacanthø! Thanks for coming over the the neighbor's house with the good turntable and all the 45s.
	9:41pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Imaginos @9:39 Aloha!
	👻 9:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Unamerican Activity" by "Inclusions" Classic punk move: equate Ronald Regan with Nazis.
	9:42pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @9:39 i brought my Billy Joel 45s
	9:42pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 Star faving this one.
	👻 9:42pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:42 Billy Joel's street punk era, right?
	9:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Unamerican Activity" by "Inclusions" any enemy to ronald reagan is a friend of mine
	9:43pm Imaginos: Getting sleepy. Woken up at 3am by cat
	👻 9:44pm Austin Rich: I recall the day Regan died. We had a party, and I bought a fancy bottle of wine. It was a good party.
	9:44pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @9:42 yeah... "you may be right, i may be crazy"! ...'guy's so badassssss
	9:44pm Mr. X: ↳ Imaginos @9:43 Cat doing its job.
	9:45pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:44 Yup
	👻 9:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:43 Sleep Well.
	👻 9:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Army Now" by "Futurisk" It's not a futurist, its a FUTURISK!
	9:47pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Army Now" by "Futurisk" Gotta love when they use electronica in punk.
	👻 9:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:44 There was an old "Sharpling and Wurster" routine about Billy Joel's "Street Punk" era, so I can't take credit for that joke.
	👻 9:47pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:47 Agreed. I always wanted to be the keyboard player in a punk band.
	9:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Austin Rich @9:44 i just told people it was far too late to matter. irrepairable damage done.
	9:48pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:47 Hey, if Pat Boone can go metal, I guess Billy Joel can go punk.
	👻 9:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:48 True. It was such a mess after him. Still is!
	9:50pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:48 Or, as the Minutemen say, "I'm so tired of living Nixon's mess."
	👻 9:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:50 Yeah. I guess he was setting the stage for all the bullshit we'd have to deal with in the years afterwards.
	👻 9:52pm ramencity: I wonder if steampunks sang angry vaudeville songs about McKinley...
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:52 There was so much to get angry about!
	9:56pm coelacanth∅: nixon was a double-edged sword. scumbag as he was, he did some very good things too. the reagan administration (the bush family, essentially) set up everything for what we have now, and what's coming. i'm not sure he ever did ANYTHING for the good of the people.
	👻 9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:52 (If only I could remember ANYTHING about McKinley without googling it...)
	9:56pm Mr Fab: Hey Austin- Let’s have a war! So you can go die! (Not you personally, of course)
	9:57pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @9:56 Jack up the Dow Jones.
	👻 9:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:56 There's so many classic punk songs about war, this theme could come back.
	👻 9:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Soldier Boy" by "No Shelter" Someone might have an Elvis Costello record in his collection.
	9:59pm Mr Fab: Mr X mentioned The Minutemen. “King of the Hill” is a good ‘un: “ is it peace to point the gun? Is it war to fire the gun?“
	👻 9:59pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:59 So many good Minutemen lines, too!
	10:00pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:58 Or the Shirelles.
	10:02pm Mr Fab: The Israel /Gaza thing reminds me of a line from X: “both sides are right/ but both sides murder/ I give up…/ why can’t they? (I must not think bad thoughts, I must not think bad thoughts…)”
	👻 10:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:02 I feel like there are so many insights in X songs. I love John & Exene's lyrics.
	👻 10:12pm Austin Rich: What I love about this comp series is that it seems to include a lot of bands that we wouldn't really call "punk" these days, as they just sound like rock & roll bands. The pre-punk and proto-punk "garage rock" world of bands that were "harder" that the 60's psyche but heavy metal and punk didn't exist yet is pretty vast, and there's a lot of bands that just didn't fit into the other scenes, and sort of wound up as "punk-adjacent" as punk started to develop.
	10:17pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:12 Indeed, I was just admiring the thoroughness - including all the photos for the "cover" graphics. Wish there was a key, though, to tell which band goes with which photo.
	👻 10:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:17 You have to do a secondary level of legwork, and look up the band on discogs. But often the B-Side to the single turns up on another installment of the same series, of you can hear the "complete" single, for some bands.
	👻 10:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Third World War" by "Dog Detachment" Probably the most unfortunately "slim" installment of the series, Vol 100 is "The Rest of The World," and as I have mentioned, Asia is not represented, there's not really much from South America, and there are many other blind spots. (I would love a comprehensive compilation of Asian Punk, multiple volumes, if possible.) But you can't have everything...
	10:28pm Mr. X: We've kind of already had 2 or 3 World War IIIs at this point, haven't we? It's like the apocalypse, it keeps being about to happen, and then they say, "Oh, never mind, that wasn't really the apocalypse, maybe next week..."
	👻 10:28pm Austin Rich: It certainly feels like it.
	👻 10:29pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "World War III" by "Powerage" One of the more fun parts of this song is how completely they fall apart while they are playing it.
	👻 10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "World War 4" by "Reactors" Well, even if there have been too many WWIII's, here's a WW4 just in case.
	10:31pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:22 I was talking to a Korean American DJ who said there really isn’t much of a rock tradition there. And that might count for much of Asia. Except of course Japan, which has a crazy rich rock tradition. But even there wasn’t much punk til the late ‘80s, according to Mike Rogers.
	10:32pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:31 I was gonna say, finally someone counted them.
	👻 10:41pm Austin Rich: I was thinking of doing a "short songs" show here, but it is sort of a logistical nightmare to get the info entered and then publish the songs in the feed quickly. It could be done, but I might not be able to be in the chat for a show like that.
	10:41pm Mr Fab: Funny thing, Japanese don’t understand rock n roll as rebellious! They have a much more collectivist mindset, so have no need to rebel against “the system.” A running joke on the Mike Rogers Show was, despite all the leather jackets and loud noise, all the songs were about food and cats.
	👻 10:43pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:41 That sort of makes me love it more. I think 95% of Guitar Wolf songs are about how great rock and roll is. The rest are about motorcycles and haircombing.
	10:44pm Mr. X: I do need to listen to more Shonen Knife.
	👻 10:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:44 They are very excellent. I regret not making a harder effort to see them live when I could have. The 5.6.7.8's are also very excellent.
	10:45pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @10:43 They DO have great hairstyles. Greaser perfection.
	👻 10:46pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:45 Both times that I saw them, they opened the show with an instrumental being played through the speakers, while they combed their hair for a few minutes. It was great.
	10:50pm coelacanth∅: gotta go Thanks Austin Rich! 'night y'all
	👻 10:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:50 See ya next time. Thanks!
	10:51pm Mr. X: Catch you on the flip side, coelacanth∅.
	👻 10:52pm Heather: Just popping in to say it's been a super fun show and thanks for the tunes! Been dialed in and doing a little craft project here tonight!
	👻 10:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather @10:52 Thanks for saying hello!
	👻 10:55pm Heather: ↳ Austin Rich @10:53 Nice to hear Patrick Fitzgerald in the mix! My friend Renee turned me onto his music when we were young and I've had a safety pin stuck in my heart since.
	10:55pm Mr. X: If there is a future beyond the Cold War, people will have trouble comprehending the existential dread we have been living under for a few generations now. But hopefully some of these punk songs will get the idea across.
	10:55pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Warhead" by "UK Subs" Jamie Oliver of the UK Subs is in a new band with Greg Norton of Husker Du. No, not celebrity chef Jaime Oliver. But that Wouldn’t be too crazy: Norton was also a chef and restaurant owner. They could have said, “These guys are cookin’.” (Sorry)
	👻 11:02pm Austin Rich: Thanks again everyone! We'll see ya'll next week!
	11:02pm Mr. X: Great selections tonight! Thanks for the show, Austin!
	11:04pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "Class War" by "Plain Jane & The Jokes" Covering the Dils!
	👻 11:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:04 In 81! It's pretty cool.
	11:05pm Mr Fab: Super awesome show, Austin! Anarchy, the only way!

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from May 28, 2024

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