WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from May 8, 2023

Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonins!
	6:02pm Franco Twinkie: Hello Mark.
	6:02pm Cooh John: Hello Mark and technicians
	6:03pm Feldy: Hey Franco & Ultradamno
	6:03pm melinda: hi all
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hiya Feldy!
	6:03pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Feldy @6:03 Feldino!
	🤖 6:04pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:05pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:04 WOW! Look at Charlotte.
	6:05pm 152: Theremin will outlast A.I.
	6:06pm yippie: perhaps it's a bit of good news that google's lawyers are starting to get pissed off in the current federal patent case weisner v google
	🤖 6:07pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Mark & Friends! This show prompts a clear musical cue from Dave Soldier's brainwave music project.
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining!
	6:07pm Fredericks: ↳ 152 @6:05 I heard some very good Theremin playing Saturday night.
	6:08pm Cooh John: Just ordered the book.
	6:08pm Ciggy: I often wonder what is inside that windowless block building on Worth & Church Streets, NYC
	6:09pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:08 I LOVE THE LYRES!!
	🤖 6:09pm DjLorraine: ↳ Cooh John @6:08 🙋‍♀️
	🤖 6:11pm DjLorraine: One new specific mri weighs 25 tons
	6:13pm Feldy: I just remembered that Mark Zuck built a hospital in SF
	6:13pm yippie: I'm friends with some Japanese butoh dancers who flew to Texas and got hooked up to brain scanners while they danced
	6:13pm MarciB: Continuous thought decoding brought to you by Meta. What could possibly go wrong?
	6:13pm Ciggy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:09 Ha
	🤖 6:13pm Webhamster Henry: There have been primitive brainwave sonification sensors + apps for decades at this point. But now, those noisy signals can get correlated to something a little more meaningful.
	6:13pm castor: Hi everyone, lovin this topic!
	6:14pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:13 Is that you!?
	6:14pm Miss G: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:07 WH do you have a link for that? thanks! (I can look but maybe you have a better idea of a link)
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:13 exactly!
	6:15pm Cooh John: 🙋 DjLorraine
	6:16pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:13 yes - the firehose of data that is being correlated with brain-state data enables some really scary possibilities
	6:17pm Ciggy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:14 No, my nephew - circa 1983
	6:19pm Miss G: Yes Mark, I find that if you flatly ask people a simple question about data privacy, they might say "I have nothing to hide" but if you take the time to give examples of what has happened, their eyes widen. . .(not Cambridge Analytica, but something more concrete)
	6:19pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:17 Okay, that makes sense.
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Miss G @6:14 here's a cd [davesoldier.bandcamp.com..., he writes about it in his book Music, Math, and Mind, as Handy Haversack will tell you. But the history goes back at least to Alvin Lucier in 1965!
	6:21pm DanFA: Brain surgeons will be IT specialists in our glistening new future. Hallelujah!
	🤖 6:21pm Webhamster Henry: The trouble with "Nothing to hide" excuses is that what needs hiding shifts over time.
	6:21pm Ciggy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:19 Saw the Lyres at Brownies in the late 90s. High energy!
	6:21pm Miss G: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:20 thanks so much WH. I have "Music, Math, and Mind" but sadly have not cracked it yet.
	6:21pm melinda: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21 Exactly.
	🤖 6:22pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Miss G @6:21 You can skip around in it, and then rest a little.
	🤖 6:22pm chresti: Forgetting things you normally remember is a good way to track your own dementia
	6:22pm castor: My thoughts are that ultimately advanced brain technology like this will cause so much more mental illness issues, messing with people's reality and a new form of addiction, and dangerous in so many other ways (imagine brain hacking), that it will be restricted to an elite group who have it implanted in their bodies and essentially become cyborg overlords.
	6:22pm Miss G: re: "Hey hey, it's for your brain health" Ah, I saw this article, and I think Nicholas Kristoff is a mensch, but the NYT might be saying "hmm, here is a goldmine" www.nytimes.com... Why Americans Feel More Pain By Nicholas Kristof
	6:23pm DanFA: Don't you just hate breathing oxygen? All that extra work your lungs do.
	6:24pm Miss G: (the Kristoff article basically says, it's ya brain)
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: It's either "health benefits" or "our soldiers will benefit from this!"
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: ↳ DanFA @6:23 "When you plug your body into the Meta Matrix (tm), the auto-breather pump will take care of that annoying task for you! just lie back..."
	6:25pm Marie in Queens: Like, why move your body if you don't have to... witness leaf blowers
	6:26pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:21 I saw them for the first time the night Andy Warhol died in L.A. Then again at Maxwell's in Hoboken soon after that.
	6:26pm DanFA: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:24 That could apply to literally any thing you do every day of your life.
	6:27pm Marie in Queens: Everyone is going to have to start wearing sunglasses all the time
	6:27pm DanFA: Mark, do you have any plans next week to talk about the WGA strike?
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ DanFA @6:27 Interesting idea - do you have a suggestion for who would be a good interviewee?
	6:28pm MarciB: Clear has partnered with Amex and Delta to get more clients...and offering a year free
	6:28pm DanFA: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:28 What about Andy Breckman?
	6:29pm Marie in Queens: I'm sure someone is working on fake iris inserts, like contacts
	🤖 6:30pm chresti: Is Clear connected to scientology?
	6:31pm Mike Sin: The folks from Clear unknowingly approaching Mark Hurst -- It would have been great to record that conversation/exchange and run it as part of the show!
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: This WGA strike had better be settled because I need Season 2 of Severance.
	🤖 6:32pm PaulRobeson1923: Hi Hi
	6:32pm Ciggy: So, the airlines are in league with Clear by deliberately slowing down the queue creating long lines. The, Clear swoops in to sign up customers
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: Mark: you should end every show with "Siri! turn all the lights off!" "OK Google! turn all the lights off" "Alexa! Turn all the lights off!"
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: You don't even need brainwave tracking for this kind of emotional intrusion; there are plenty of papers and startups trying to glean this info from vocal and video feeds.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:34 in case you think I'm making this up: www.forsta.com...
	6:36pm Marie in Queens: When you are hired you need to give them a built-in excuse as to why you might seem inattentive or unhappy at times--like tell them you have foot pain or indigestion
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:35 No limits on creepy tech! Voice, image, brain wave, whatever provides the most intrusive peek & the most growth...
	6:36pm Franco Twinkie: I haven't flown since YK2, and NEVER bought anything online. I buy my groceries with wampum.
	🤖 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and embattled carania. I clearly lost the battle to arrive on time. 🕕
	6:38pm Dean: But not everybody "worked their way up," neither then nor now.
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:37 You're welcome any time, KfHP
	6:38pm Carmichael: What if I need to think of my password?
	🤖 6:39pm PaulRobeson1923: I don’t want to join the army
	6:39pm MarciB: One more reason why I'm glad I'm a solopreneur.
	🤖 6:39pm PaulRobeson1923: I don’t want to go to war
	6:41pm Dean: I can see an upside to neuro-surveillance, since half the time even I don't know what I'm thinking.
	🤖 6:42pm PaulRobeson1923: Front Stage Self & Back Stage Self - Erving Goffman Do not use Wikipedia- wiki is NoT a reliable source
	6:42pm melinda: ↳ Marie in Queens @6:29 Reflectacles for the eyeballs
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Dean @6:41 Mark Zuckerberg will be happy to tell you what you're thinking... and maybe nudge you to think better, Meta-focused, thoughts
	6:43pm Marie in Queens: ↳ melinda @6:42 Sounds perfect
	6:43pm Ciggy: Always will associate the word Robust with the series VEEP
	6:43pm Marie in Queens: I really hate to hear about animal research
	6:44pm iiibeat: Liberty is to the State what health is to the Individual (ideally). Liberty is the capacity to interpret and/or act via available freedom.
	6:44pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Dean @6:41 If I was neuro serveiled, I think smoke would come out of the machine, then crash and burn.
	6:44pm Dean: The dynamic she describes is exactly right. We gave G.W. Bush AUMF on a "temporary" basis. Interesting concept of "temporary," akin to the Supreme Court's mind-numbingly stupid reading of "limited terms" in the Copyright Clause. Mark Zuckerberg has no idea what I'm thinking, fortunately. I have never touched Facemeta, Bookface, or Metabook.
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ Marie in Queens @6:43 Wait till you hear about WAR
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1923: Will AI make it easier to load a machine gun?
	6:46pm Carmichael: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:45 What is it good for?
	🤖 6:46pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ iiibeat @6:44 Liberty is what I say it is
	6:47pm Rolando: Love this show! It keeps me awake at night. Specifically targeting specific persons of interest - justifying the use of! (Don’t you want to be safe folks!!! )
	6:47pm Dean: If X can be misused against people by gov't and corps, it will be misused against them. This is uncontroversial.
	🤖 6:48pm PaulRobeson1923: Human Rights did not exist prior to the Close of WWII. We get Human Rights as a gift, from the Millions and Millions of folks Murdered during the War
	6:48pm Ciggy: Clear: The company’s (stock) ticker is “YOU,” reflecting its tautological motto: “You are you.” Souce: Slate
	6:48pm Juli: Why don't the governments believe in Spirits and Magick?
	🤖 6:48pm Webhamster Henry: Everyone is a good guy with a brainwave reader!
	6:49pm P-90: Thanks Nita! And Mark!
	6:49pm MarciB: Cognitive warfare...isn't that social media?
	6:49pm Marie in Queens: I think brain imaging is getting better and is amazing but that is the kind of imaging that scans the whole brain and is monitoring motion of sugars, oxygens while in use. Simple external monitors can only detect pretty simple things at this time, right? And it uses correlations with other things, right?
	6:49pm iiibeat: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:46 Yup! Its yours, Man!
	🤖 6:49pm Will thee Sound Guy: Mowing the lawn and listening, wild. Thank you Mark Hurst and Nita!!!
	🤖 6:50pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ iiibeat @6:49 My friend!
	6:51pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Juli @6:48 Or plants. I'm interested in the cellular biology of green things sticking out of the ground - not invasive machines.
	🤖 6:51pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:05 Yea we were at a wedding... She keeps growing up fast Franco
	6:52pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:51 She's a real beauty, that little miss!
	6:52pm iiibeat: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:50 🌞
	🤖 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park: Blockheadchain
	6:52pm ultradamno: I thought swiss cheese skulls were just for getting permanently high
	6:53pm ultradamno: Blockheadchaingang, when in a group
	6:53pm Ike: Holy cow, this is mind-blowing (no pun intended). A stream of text? From your brain? Wowsers.
	6:53pm Franco Twinkie: Toiletcam.
	6:54pm P-90: “Worker Dignity” how quaint
	6:54pm Marie in Queens: People were decrying the potential uses of genetic modifications long before they were even possible
	🤖 6:54pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:52 Thanks man, she's definitely defining more of a personality every day
	6:55pm Zinn The Mood: Frequently miss this excellent show because I’m cooking and feeding the kids, or have just done so. Please keep holding the torch, Mark, against surveillance capitalism!
	6:56pm iiibeat: He stole my thought. THEY all did!!! Hahahahahaha Weird radio.
	🤖 6:56pm PaulRobeson1923: Teacher! I have to go to the Bathroom! …Well, sorry kid, brain machine says yer makin it up
	6:57pm Marie in Queens: Thanks Mark and Nita
	6:58pm gone with the wind: ↳ Marie in Queens @6:43 me too! Elon is a Psychopath!
	6:58pm Carmichael: That's it, I'm inventing the Crainial Faraday Cage.
	6:58pm MarciB: Please do a part 2!
	6:58pm castor: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm gone with the wind: Love U MarkH :)
	6:58pm Miss G: whew Thank you Mark Hurst and Nita Farahany, I'll look at my local bookstore tomorrow.
	6:58pm Quinn02: Mark, I rejoined Facebook because I needed to buy something from their marketplace. I feel really bad about it and will quit as soon as we buy the thing. It's not drugs, humans, or weapons. Just a chair.
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Carmichael @6:58 A/k/a a tin foil hat (which actually must be grounded)
	6:58pm Quinn02: Mark, I rejoined Facebook because I needed to buy something from their marketplace. I feel really bad about it and will quit as soon as we buy the thing. It's not drugs, humans, or weapons. Just a chair.
	6:59pm Quinn02: dang
	6:59pm Feldy: Thanks for a thought-provoking show, Mark
	6:59pm Franco Twinkie: I with I had an apple right now. A crispy apple that grew on a tree.
	6:59pm castor: YES!!!
	🤖 6:59pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:56 ? I have to use the Latriens, Sir? I hear the Bombs but I gotta go to the bathroom. I’m raising my hand sir! I don’t care what the brain machine says! I gotta go
	6:59pm Zinn The Mood: Avoid Apple (Amazon?), Get Rid of Google and… what was the rest of that alliteration?
	🤖 6:59pm Webhamster Henry: I'm happier playing with my Log.
	6:59pm gone with the wind: ↳ Song: "Happy Happy Joy Joy" by "Ren and Stimpy" :D
	7:00pm mr 6: Get there recordings they rock!! Ren and Stimpy
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Machine, where did I put my keys? 🔑
	🤖 7:00pm Will thee Sound Guy: I miss Ren and Stimpy
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm Franco Twinkie: Thank Mark and Nita. I think I'll go kill myself.
	🤖 7:01pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 7:01pm Webhamster Henry: My Brain Hurts. <<< a GUmby

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from May 8, 2023

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May 8, 2023: Nita Farahany, author, "The Battle for Your Brain"

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Today: Nita Farahany, author, “The Battle for Your Brain”

• The Battle for Your Brain: Defending the Right to Think Freely in the Age of Neurotechnology

• nitafarahany.com, Nita’s author site

• AI makes non-invasive mind-reading possible by turning thoughts into text (The Guardian, May 1, 2023): “An AI-based decoder that can translate brain activity into a continuous stream of text has been developed, in a breakthrough that allows a person’s thoughts to be read non-invasively for the first time. The decoder could reconstruct speech with uncanny accuracy while people listened to a story – or even silently imagined one – using only fMRI scan data.”

• A Mind-Reading AI Translated People’s Brain Scans Into Words and Sentences (The Daily Beast, May 1, 2023): "the subjects told five 1-minute stories while recorded by the fMRI. They then told the stories aloud to provide reference transcripts. The study’s authors were able to identify the story that the subjects were telling after decoding their brain scans. While the decoder wasn’t perfect and could only translate broader thoughts and ideas, it still matched the accuracy of the actual transcripts more closely than if things were left to pure chance."

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonins!
	6:02pm Franco Twinkie: Hello Mark.
	6:02pm Cooh John: Hello Mark and technicians
	6:03pm Feldy: Hey Franco & Ultradamno
	6:03pm melinda: hi all
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hiya Feldy!
	6:03pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Feldy @6:03 Feldino!
	🤖 6:04pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:05pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:04 WOW! Look at Charlotte.
	6:05pm 152: Theremin will outlast A.I.
	6:06pm yippie: perhaps it's a bit of good news that google's lawyers are starting to get pissed off in the current federal patent case weisner v google
	🤖 6:07pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Mark & Friends! This show prompts a clear musical cue from Dave Soldier's brainwave music project.
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining!
	6:07pm Fredericks: ↳ 152 @6:05 I heard some very good Theremin playing Saturday night.
	6:08pm Cooh John: Just ordered the book.
	6:08pm Ciggy: I often wonder what is inside that windowless block building on Worth & Church Streets, NYC
	6:09pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:08 I LOVE THE LYRES!!
	🤖 6:09pm DjLorraine: ↳ Cooh John @6:08 🙋‍♀️
	🤖 6:11pm DjLorraine: One new specific mri weighs 25 tons
	6:13pm Feldy: I just remembered that Mark Zuck built a hospital in SF
	6:13pm yippie: I'm friends with some Japanese butoh dancers who flew to Texas and got hooked up to brain scanners while they danced
	6:13pm MarciB: Continuous thought decoding brought to you by Meta. What could possibly go wrong?
	6:13pm Ciggy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:09 Ha
	🤖 6:13pm Webhamster Henry: There have been primitive brainwave sonification sensors + apps for decades at this point. But now, those noisy signals can get correlated to something a little more meaningful.
	6:13pm castor: Hi everyone, lovin this topic!
	6:14pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:13 Is that you!?
	6:14pm Miss G: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:07 WH do you have a link for that? thanks! (I can look but maybe you have a better idea of a link)
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:13 exactly!
	6:15pm Cooh John: 🙋 DjLorraine
	6:16pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:13 yes - the firehose of data that is being correlated with brain-state data enables some really scary possibilities
	6:17pm Ciggy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:14 No, my nephew - circa 1983
	6:19pm Miss G: Yes Mark, I find that if you flatly ask people a simple question about data privacy, they might say "I have nothing to hide" but if you take the time to give examples of what has happened, their eyes widen. . .(not Cambridge Analytica, but something more concrete)
	6:19pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:17 Okay, that makes sense.
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Miss G @6:14 here's a cd [davesoldier.bandcamp.com..., he writes about it in his book Music, Math, and Mind, as Handy Haversack will tell you. But the history goes back at least to Alvin Lucier in 1965!
	6:21pm DanFA: Brain surgeons will be IT specialists in our glistening new future. Hallelujah!
	🤖 6:21pm Webhamster Henry: The trouble with "Nothing to hide" excuses is that what needs hiding shifts over time.
	6:21pm Ciggy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:19 Saw the Lyres at Brownies in the late 90s. High energy!
	6:21pm Miss G: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:20 thanks so much WH. I have "Music, Math, and Mind" but sadly have not cracked it yet.
	6:21pm melinda: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21 Exactly.
	🤖 6:22pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Miss G @6:21 You can skip around in it, and then rest a little.
	🤖 6:22pm chresti: Forgetting things you normally remember is a good way to track your own dementia
	6:22pm castor: My thoughts are that ultimately advanced brain technology like this will cause so much more mental illness issues, messing with people's reality and a new form of addiction, and dangerous in so many other ways (imagine brain hacking), that it will be restricted to an elite group who have it implanted in their bodies and essentially become cyborg overlords.
	6:22pm Miss G: re: "Hey hey, it's for your brain health" Ah, I saw this article, and I think Nicholas Kristoff is a mensch, but the NYT might be saying "hmm, here is a goldmine" www.nytimes.com... Why Americans Feel More Pain By Nicholas Kristof
	6:23pm DanFA: Don't you just hate breathing oxygen? All that extra work your lungs do.
	6:24pm Miss G: (the Kristoff article basically says, it's ya brain)
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: It's either "health benefits" or "our soldiers will benefit from this!"
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: ↳ DanFA @6:23 "When you plug your body into the Meta Matrix (tm), the auto-breather pump will take care of that annoying task for you! just lie back..."
	6:25pm Marie in Queens: Like, why move your body if you don't have to... witness leaf blowers
	6:26pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Ciggy @6:21 I saw them for the first time the night Andy Warhol died in L.A. Then again at Maxwell's in Hoboken soon after that.
	6:26pm DanFA: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:24 That could apply to literally any thing you do every day of your life.
	6:27pm Marie in Queens: Everyone is going to have to start wearing sunglasses all the time
	6:27pm DanFA: Mark, do you have any plans next week to talk about the WGA strike?
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ DanFA @6:27 Interesting idea - do you have a suggestion for who would be a good interviewee?
	6:28pm MarciB: Clear has partnered with Amex and Delta to get more clients...and offering a year free
	6:28pm DanFA: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:28 What about Andy Breckman?
	6:29pm Marie in Queens: I'm sure someone is working on fake iris inserts, like contacts
	🤖 6:30pm chresti: Is Clear connected to scientology?
	6:31pm Mike Sin: The folks from Clear unknowingly approaching Mark Hurst -- It would have been great to record that conversation/exchange and run it as part of the show!
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: This WGA strike had better be settled because I need Season 2 of Severance.
	🤖 6:32pm PaulRobeson1923: Hi Hi
	6:32pm Ciggy: So, the airlines are in league with Clear by deliberately slowing down the queue creating long lines. The, Clear swoops in to sign up customers
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: Mark: you should end every show with "Siri! turn all the lights off!" "OK Google! turn all the lights off" "Alexa! Turn all the lights off!"
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: You don't even need brainwave tracking for this kind of emotional intrusion; there are plenty of papers and startups trying to glean this info from vocal and video feeds.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:34 in case you think I'm making this up: www.forsta.com...
	6:36pm Marie in Queens: When you are hired you need to give them a built-in excuse as to why you might seem inattentive or unhappy at times--like tell them you have foot pain or indigestion
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:35 No limits on creepy tech! Voice, image, brain wave, whatever provides the most intrusive peek & the most growth...
	6:36pm Franco Twinkie: I haven't flown since YK2, and NEVER bought anything online. I buy my groceries with wampum.
	🤖 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and embattled carania. I clearly lost the battle to arrive on time. 🕕
	6:38pm Dean: But not everybody "worked their way up," neither then nor now.
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:37 You're welcome any time, KfHP
	6:38pm Carmichael: What if I need to think of my password?
	🤖 6:39pm PaulRobeson1923: I don’t want to join the army
	6:39pm MarciB: One more reason why I'm glad I'm a solopreneur.
	🤖 6:39pm PaulRobeson1923: I don’t want to go to war
	6:41pm Dean: I can see an upside to neuro-surveillance, since half the time even I don't know what I'm thinking.
	🤖 6:42pm PaulRobeson1923: Front Stage Self & Back Stage Self - Erving Goffman Do not use Wikipedia- wiki is NoT a reliable source
	6:42pm melinda: ↳ Marie in Queens @6:29 Reflectacles for the eyeballs
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Dean @6:41 Mark Zuckerberg will be happy to tell you what you're thinking... and maybe nudge you to think better, Meta-focused, thoughts
	6:43pm Marie in Queens: ↳ melinda @6:42 Sounds perfect
	6:43pm Ciggy: Always will associate the word Robust with the series VEEP
	6:43pm Marie in Queens: I really hate to hear about animal research
	6:44pm iiibeat: Liberty is to the State what health is to the Individual (ideally). Liberty is the capacity to interpret and/or act via available freedom.
	6:44pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Dean @6:41 If I was neuro serveiled, I think smoke would come out of the machine, then crash and burn.
	6:44pm Dean: The dynamic she describes is exactly right. We gave G.W. Bush AUMF on a "temporary" basis. Interesting concept of "temporary," akin to the Supreme Court's mind-numbingly stupid reading of "limited terms" in the Copyright Clause. Mark Zuckerberg has no idea what I'm thinking, fortunately. I have never touched Facemeta, Bookface, or Metabook.
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ Marie in Queens @6:43 Wait till you hear about WAR
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1923: Will AI make it easier to load a machine gun?
	6:46pm Carmichael: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:45 What is it good for?
	🤖 6:46pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ iiibeat @6:44 Liberty is what I say it is
	6:47pm Rolando: Love this show! It keeps me awake at night. Specifically targeting specific persons of interest - justifying the use of! (Don’t you want to be safe folks!!! )
	6:47pm Dean: If X can be misused against people by gov't and corps, it will be misused against them. This is uncontroversial.
	🤖 6:48pm PaulRobeson1923: Human Rights did not exist prior to the Close of WWII. We get Human Rights as a gift, from the Millions and Millions of folks Murdered during the War
	6:48pm Ciggy: Clear: The company’s (stock) ticker is “YOU,” reflecting its tautological motto: “You are you.” Souce: Slate
	6:48pm Juli: Why don't the governments believe in Spirits and Magick?
	🤖 6:48pm Webhamster Henry: Everyone is a good guy with a brainwave reader!
	6:49pm P-90: Thanks Nita! And Mark!
	6:49pm MarciB: Cognitive warfare...isn't that social media?
	6:49pm Marie in Queens: I think brain imaging is getting better and is amazing but that is the kind of imaging that scans the whole brain and is monitoring motion of sugars, oxygens while in use. Simple external monitors can only detect pretty simple things at this time, right? And it uses correlations with other things, right?
	6:49pm iiibeat: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:46 Yup! Its yours, Man!
	🤖 6:49pm Will thee Sound Guy: Mowing the lawn and listening, wild. Thank you Mark Hurst and Nita!!!
	🤖 6:50pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ iiibeat @6:49 My friend!
	6:51pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Juli @6:48 Or plants. I'm interested in the cellular biology of green things sticking out of the ground - not invasive machines.
	🤖 6:51pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:05 Yea we were at a wedding... She keeps growing up fast Franco
	6:52pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:51 She's a real beauty, that little miss!
	6:52pm iiibeat: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:50 🌞
	🤖 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park: Blockheadchain
	6:52pm ultradamno: I thought swiss cheese skulls were just for getting permanently high
	6:53pm ultradamno: Blockheadchaingang, when in a group
	6:53pm Ike: Holy cow, this is mind-blowing (no pun intended). A stream of text? From your brain? Wowsers.
	6:53pm Franco Twinkie: Toiletcam.
	6:54pm P-90: “Worker Dignity” how quaint
	6:54pm Marie in Queens: People were decrying the potential uses of genetic modifications long before they were even possible
	🤖 6:54pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:52 Thanks man, she's definitely defining more of a personality every day
	6:55pm Zinn The Mood: Frequently miss this excellent show because I’m cooking and feeding the kids, or have just done so. Please keep holding the torch, Mark, against surveillance capitalism!
	6:56pm iiibeat: He stole my thought. THEY all did!!! Hahahahahaha Weird radio.
	🤖 6:56pm PaulRobeson1923: Teacher! I have to go to the Bathroom! …Well, sorry kid, brain machine says yer makin it up
	6:57pm Marie in Queens: Thanks Mark and Nita
	6:58pm gone with the wind: ↳ Marie in Queens @6:43 me too! Elon is a Psychopath!
	6:58pm Carmichael: That's it, I'm inventing the Crainial Faraday Cage.
	6:58pm MarciB: Please do a part 2!
	6:58pm castor: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm gone with the wind: Love U MarkH :)
	6:58pm Miss G: whew Thank you Mark Hurst and Nita Farahany, I'll look at my local bookstore tomorrow.
	6:58pm Quinn02: Mark, I rejoined Facebook because I needed to buy something from their marketplace. I feel really bad about it and will quit as soon as we buy the thing. It's not drugs, humans, or weapons. Just a chair.
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Carmichael @6:58 A/k/a a tin foil hat (which actually must be grounded)
	6:58pm Quinn02: Mark, I rejoined Facebook because I needed to buy something from their marketplace. I feel really bad about it and will quit as soon as we buy the thing. It's not drugs, humans, or weapons. Just a chair.
	6:59pm Quinn02: dang
	6:59pm Feldy: Thanks for a thought-provoking show, Mark
	6:59pm Franco Twinkie: I with I had an apple right now. A crispy apple that grew on a tree.
	6:59pm castor: YES!!!
	🤖 6:59pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:56 ? I have to use the Latriens, Sir? I hear the Bombs but I gotta go to the bathroom. I’m raising my hand sir! I don’t care what the brain machine says! I gotta go
	6:59pm Zinn The Mood: Avoid Apple (Amazon?), Get Rid of Google and… what was the rest of that alliteration?
	🤖 6:59pm Webhamster Henry: I'm happier playing with my Log.
	6:59pm gone with the wind: ↳ Song: "Happy Happy Joy Joy" by "Ren and Stimpy" :D
	7:00pm mr 6: Get there recordings they rock!! Ren and Stimpy
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Machine, where did I put my keys? 🔑
	🤖 7:00pm Will thee Sound Guy: I miss Ren and Stimpy
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm Franco Twinkie: Thank Mark and Nita. I think I'll go kill myself.
	🤖 7:01pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 7:01pm Webhamster Henry: My Brain Hurts. <<< a GUmby

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