WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from July 3, 2022

Listener comments!
	8:12am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	8:30am Jeff Golick: Good (early) morning, @Andrew in Toronto!
	🥁 8:52am DJpeterDE: Good morning all! I woke up and there was a Jackson In My House.
	🥁 8:55am DJpeterDE: To be clear, not a Jeff Jackson
	9:00am Jeff Golick: That's good, @DJpeterDE!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: hello!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @hyde!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Hyde!
	🥁 9:04am doctorjazz: Heading out, family outing, will listen in transit, hey Jeff and Outies!
	🥁 9:04am Listener Gregory: Good morning, perfect people everywhere.
	🥁 9:04am hyde: hi AiT!
	🥁 9:07am DJpeterDE: I stan Johnny Coles! Just recently found a white whale, the first Dameronia LP.
	🥁 9:07am Doug Schulkind: D:O Radio, now more than ever.
	9:08am TDK60: Good morning, DJ Jeff. // 4th of July? -- blecchh.
	🥁 9:08am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo !! Glad for the d:O.
	9:09am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz! Dig the apron! Morning, @Listener Gregory! Morning, @Doug! Howdy, @TDK60! Howdy, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63!
	🥁 9:09am DJpeterDE: Great inspiration Jeff! Have you heard (both soundtracks for) Shirley Clarke’s Bridges-Go-Round? One is electronic and one is Teo Macero.
	9:10am Jeff Golick: I have not, @DJpeterDE! Ornette in America is in my queue (to watch again), but will look out for Bridges-Go-Round!
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Apologies -- there are a few short drop-outs in my rip.
	🥁 9:11am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...graphic maybe not getting me on the onramp to breakfast most perfectly - but I'ma plug the laptop into the stereo & has coffees & we'll go from here...
	🥁 9:12am WR: Sorry, just caught the last bit of your intro, although, I guess I can go watch the uboob vid, but what is that film about? I have mixed history with asparagus (noting that the pic says "Asparigus").
	9:13am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I wavered on that choice, @RRN63, but figured it does give an idea of the full Asparagus experience.
	🥁 9:13am DJpeterDE: Would be a great blog post: experimental music soundtracks for short films.
	9:15am Jeff Golick: Hey, @WR! It's a 20 minute animated short, with inventive techniques including painted cels, about...uh...a woman who goes out to the theatre and then back home? It's very transporting.
	🥁 9:15am WR: DJpeterDE, I think that subject could be a whole blog unto itself.
	🥁 9:18am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...not to disparage the pairing of asparagal defecation depiction & this particular presentation...
	9:20am Jeff Golick: In the film, the asparagus does a lot of work as a sexual symbol.
	🥁 9:21am WR: Curious that the PIC has the what appears to be a typo. All the hits I am seeing has usual asparagus spelling. Several say the film was seen as an opener for Eraserhead but not in the local theatre where I saw eraserhead back in the day.
	9:22am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I believe that's a typo ("Asparigus") on the cassette packaging of the only release I'm aware of.
	🥁 9:23am Doug Schulkind: Can I just say, asparagus pee is amazing. That shit happens in seconds.
	🥁 9:25am WR: Oh, it is a beautiful animation. Book marked for watching later, because actually, I am at work this morning. Will continue as a listener here though.
	🥁 9:27am WR: We all had that thought Doug, but you went ahead and stated it.
	🥁 9:28am Doug Schulkind: @WR I felt this space was safe enough for me to share.
	🥁 9:31am WR: Yes, of course, and yes, Doug. Am now wondering about the blog post or scientific paper that must exist about the rate and speed of the asparagus pee phenomena.
	9:34am Jeff Golick: That feels like it would be a clarion call for listener Dean, @WR.
	🥁 9:37am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...whistling past the asparagus pee rabbit hole myself for the moment @ least...
	9:37am Robm: Hello fellow out members
	9:38am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Robm!
	9:38am Robm: Thanks jeff
	9:39am Jeff Golick: (And I hope Jeffrey Toobin didn't read your opening comment.)
	9:39am abbazabba: Hello Jeff! Glad you’re back. Happy Sunday everyone
	9:40am Jeff Golick: Thanks, and welcome, @abbazabba! I'm so glad to be back!
	9:42am Robm: @Jeff you mean my opening comment? If so the only person i give a damn about would be station manager ken and I don’t want to be on his shit list
	9:44am Jeff Golick: Not to worry, @Robm. Just reaching for some wordplay. Only thing on today's shitlist? Asparagus.
	9:44am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	9:45am Robm: @Jeff or lima beans:)
	9:45am Jeff Golick: Hello, @Andrew Waterloo!
	9:46am Stork: Hey Outies all!
	9:46am Jeff Golick: Yo, @Stork!
	9:47am Listener Gregory: Excellent laundry-folding music.
	9:48am Gary via app: Good morning!
	9:49am Jeff Golick: @Gary!!
	🥁 9:52am WR: That George Lewis piece was beautiful.
	🥁 9:54am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Why we have the good speakers.
	9:55am TDK60: Bassoon on this Szamburski? Or bass clarinet? Other?
	9:55am Jeff Golick: I think it's clarinet, @TDK60
	9:56am Stork: This Szamburski piece is lovely. Don‘t know him/her.
	9:56am Jeff Golick: More info here: szamburski.bandcamp.com...
	🥁 9:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Stravinsky had the foresight that ...Spring would end up having more Rights than the rest of us...
	🥁 9:56am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	9:57am Jeff Golick: Heyo, @chresti!
	9:57am Stork: Nice snag DJPeter. I never found any Dameronia.
	10:02am Gary via app: Do you like the Sun Ra double-LP vocal overview?
	🥁 10:03am chresti: I go through periods where I can't listen to voices
	10:04am Gary via app: This one: https://www.discogs.com/master/1085698-Sun-Ra-And-His-Interplanetary-Vocal-Arkestra-The-Space-Age-Is-Here-To-Stay
	10:05am Jeff Golick: I do not have that, @Gary. I feel that, too, @chresti.
	10:05am TDK60: Hola chresti. I usually listen only to instrumental music if I'm reading or doing something mental. Vocals tend to demand too much attention.
	🥁 10:05am WR: Even reggae chresti? (goog morning!)
	🥁 10:06am WR: good....
	🥁 10:06am Listener Gregory: The immediacy of the human voice is driving me away, Jeff. (Also, visiting relatives.) I'll catch up on the archive. I really liked the George Lewis piece, though.
	10:07am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @LG! Take care, and happy (safe) visiting!
	🥁 10:08am chresti: Hola TDK60, exactly. Too distracting. Good morning WR, I'll listen to instrumental reggae/ska
	10:09am Gary via app: I feel the opposite Jeff! I need the voice or I feel bereft. But I love your show, which is confusing
	🥁 10:10am hyde: i often feel about vocals the way i do about portrait painting and photography. it's....fine. but give me landscapes or abstracts any time
	10:11am Jeff Golick: @Gary, you feel the feelings!
	10:12am TDK60: So, if I'm listening to Woody Guthrie, Nina Simone, John Prine, or Public Enemy, the book is set down.
	🥁 10:17am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never did get that HarrietTubman $20 Bill somehow.
	10:21am StringOFperils: Pinafores, gruel, and scratches. Now all I need is rain.
	10:21am WM: Shelley Hirsch is my choice among current jazz vocalists. O Little Town of East New York is a great record.
	10:21am Jeff Golick: @StringOFperils! @WM!
	10:22am Jeff Golick: @SOp, an evil stepmother also completes the picture.
	🥁 10:23am Doug Schulkind: I just think of the human voice as being another instrument.
	10:26am Jeff Golick: I try that sometimes, @Doug, but the sense of the words gets in my way.
	🥁 10:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lot to consider re Voice in Jazz. Yes - as Eno observed - when you have Voice - you have to grapple with the situation with Words. most often... When listening to a Jazz station - if there's a notable %age of Singing - it's usually Standards or Romantic material... Otherwise agree with Doug that considering Voice as Instrument has to be so...
	🥁 10:27am chresti: I can get very particular about voices, I can't tolerate a lot of the hissy nasal voices in pop music, for instance
	🥁 10:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes - Voices have very particular Timbres & characteristics.
	🥁 10:29am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...which makes my admiration of Singers who use Voice with the Control & Power of an Instrument the greater...
	🥁 10:30am hyde: yeah, i can only do the voices as instruments thing if i don't understand the language being sung
	10:31am TDK60: I can chew gum and walk listening to Medieval chants.
	🥁 10:31am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but as Subjective as feelings about a Personality or Appearance, say? Voice carries that much information... The Painting analogy ...Instruments are one kind of Brush or Color or Pen - & the Voice is ...what in that comparison...
	🥁 10:32am Doug Schulkind: @chresti Go listen to Amy Allison. She has the nasaliest voice on earth. And it is glorious.
	🥁 10:32am hyde: @TDK60 haha, i have to say that i cannot handle monk music at all.
	🥁 10:33am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All the Christianist associations with that - but I love drones & mystical stuff generally...
	10:33am TDK60: Revrab, it's interesting, there are some artists/bands I avoid simply because the vocalist isn't for me.
	🥁 10:35am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I guess the analogy of Abstract or Landscape compared to Figurative imagery is pretty serviceable ? ...tempted to say it breaks a fourth wall or something - but that's dragging the Composer into it - trying too hard on my part...
	10:35am Dean: Jaap Blonk, Phil Minton = voice as instrument John Coltrane = instrument as voice Some genres and vocalists (think Joe McGasko's story song sets) = voice as verbal communicator Other vocalists (Bono, Springsteen) = voice as gruel
	10:36am Dean: h/t SoP
	10:37am Jeff Golick: @Dean! (For all that, I have a hard time with Minton and Blonk.)
	🥁 10:38am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: .../Still Lifes - &tc. ...
	10:38am StringOFperils: Sometimes I'm not here for a good time, I'm here for a hard time. At least that's what they told me when they gave me this rifle metaphor.
	🥁 10:40am Doug Schulkind: @Jeff Golick I Diamanda that you listen to more challenging voices!
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Needless to say (?), any hard time I might have I attribute entirely to my own provincial ears, and not the art being created.
	10:41am Dean: Who'd win a uvula wrestling contest between Diamanda Galas and Gilbert Gottfried? Alas, we'll never know.
	🥁 10:41am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Prose: words in their best order; poetry: the best words in the best order.' - Samuel Taylor Coleridge
	🥁 10:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Music ?
	🥁 10:45am chresti: Chanting is allowed When I say hissy I'm thinking Madonna or Belinda kind of voice
	🥁 10:45am hyde: when Gilbert Gottfried died, i heard a recording of his actual, normal speaking voice and it was really bizarre to hear
	10:46am Dean: "All art constantly aspires towards the condition of music." - Walter Pater.
	🥁 10:47am chresti: Diana Ross, I loved the Supremes but not Diana's sound
	🥁 10:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...my sense that Voice breaks a Fourth Wall - as Art & especially (?) Music express what is usually not expressed. & Voice is too close to Home & Ground Zero, as it were... Is that one a Narc ?? Which is absurd in one sense cause I love all kinds of Music with Singing - but this Jazz business...
	🥁 10:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Well Madonna & Belinda are 'hissy' people...
	🥁 10:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Right - Diana playing LadyDay in the film - please.
	🥁 10:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Great Pop voice - but.
	🥁 10:49am hyde: my gf has a thing where she dislikes about 95% of female singers
	10:49am Dean: Then there are talents like Mark E Smith, whose voice breaks the ninth wall.
	🥁 10:51am hyde: the gf does like Nico, though
	🥁 10:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always loved Nico reflexively. Her singing anyhow.
	🥁 10:53am WR: What about Jackson Browne?
	🥁 10:53am chresti: I like Nico too. your gf sounds like me, hyde
	10:54am Dean: A new Marston disc arrived a few days ago, the complete recordings of Argentinian soprano Hina Spani, arias recorded in the '20s. Radiant.
	10:54am Dean: That is, the 1920s.
	🥁 10:55am WR: LOL Dean.
	10:55am Jeff Golick: Nico, Jackson Browne...our faves are problematic.
	10:56am Jeff Golick: "faves"
	🥁 10:56am hyde: @chresti if you can handle Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny but not Judy Dyble, then you're exactly alike!
	10:58am WM: Nico is a great choice. Also consider John Cage's arrangment of e. e. cumming's poem Foever and Sunsme. There is a version sung by Carla Bley. S
	11:01am Jeff Golick: Pretending I'm Uncle Michael here...
	11:01am StringOFperils: Impossible
	11:03am Dean: Speaking of Odessa, visit the poetry of Ilya Kaminsky: https://www.ilyakaminsky.com/dancing-in-odessa I met Ilya at OAK waiting to board a Southwest plane. This was around 20 years ago, when the book was published. We were both reading poetry, so we struck up a conversation about Shakespeare, etc. Ilya is deaf, reads lips. Ironically, it was hard for me to hear him over the sounds of the jets when we were in flight, but he understood me.
	🥁 11:03am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Wow. How did Odessa sell ??
	11:04am WM: Is this Bee Gees song supposed to be a homage to be a homage to Ukraine?
	11:04am Jeff Golick: @WM: you mean in its original release?
	🥁 11:04am WR: thanks for sharing that Dean, will look at his work.
	11:04am Dean: It was a homage to velour.
	11:05am StringOFperils: More of an antipodal boy's imaginary exotic far-away as the moon Ukraine
	🥁 11:05am chresti: I like Cluster's "Oh Odessa"
	11:05am Andres: Good morning, Jeff and all!. That Bee Gees is so great!!
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Odessa...Massachusetts...so exotic!
	11:06am coelacanth∅: g'morning Jeff, OUTies
	11:06am Jeff Golick: I don't know that one, @chresti! Will look... Hey, @Andres!
	11:07am Franco Twinkie: Hi everybody!
	11:07am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @coelacanth∅!
	11:07am Jeff Golick: Wassup, @Franco Twinkie!
	11:07am Franco Twinkie: Just got up Jeff.
	🥁 11:08am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...' Despite reaching the UK Top Ten and the US Top 20, the album was not particularly well-received '...
	11:08am Dean: Here's Ilya on the war: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/opinion/ukraine-odessa-poems.html
	11:08am StringOFperils: Good lookin' apricots, Franco.
	11:08am b0b0b0b plasticland WI.: Zola I believe is from WI.
	11:09am Andres: Owen Pallet “Odessa” another good one.
	11:09am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that, @b0b0b0b plasticland WI.! Welcome.
	11:11am b0b0b0b: no problem ..to be precise WAUSAU
	11:12am Franco Twinkie: SoP, I am fruit exhibitionist, and I'm telling the world!
	11:14am Andres: Oop. Actually it’s a cover of a Caribou song. Morning brain.
	11:23am bobobob: what bout the Fontella Bass Chicago Art ensemble collaboration
	11:25am Dean: Yikes. Harry Bernstein just announced a series of six free concerts at Salesforce Park in SF: Sunday July 17, 4pm Gerald Cleaver (percussion) Larry Ochs (tenor and soprano saxophones) Sunday July 31, 1pm Music at Large: Lewis Jordan (alto and baritone saxophones) Sandra Poindexter (violin) Bruce Ackley (saxophones) Ollen Erich Hunt (electric and acoustic bass) Jimmy Biala (percussion) Sunday August 7, 1pm Sirvan Manhoobi: Oud and Shourangiz (Iranian long neck lute) Nariman Asaadi: Daf and Tombak (Iranian percussion) Sunday August 14 4pm Rova Saxophone Quartet: Bruce Ackley (soprano saxophone) Steve Adams (alto saxophone) Larry Ochs (tenor saxophone) Jon Raskin (baritone saxophone) Tuesday August 16, 7pm CITA DI VITI: Phillip Greenlief: alto saxophone Lisa Mezzacappa: bass Jason Levis: drums (CITA DI VITI is Phillip Greenlief's project based upon & inspired by the movies of Michelangelo Antonioni) Sunday September 11, 4pm Jewish Leftist Intellectual: Ben Goldberg (clarinet) Rob Reich (accordion) Daniel Fabricant (bass)
	11:27am Dean: Harry directed last year's Other Minds Festival (Roscoe Mitchell, Mary Halvorson, Anthony Braxton, et al.), which featured a tribute to OM founder Jim Newman, Uncle Michael's uncle.
	11:28am Jeff Golick: That's a good line-up, @Dean. Yowza. @b0b0b0b: a good question -- tune into Stork to find out! wfmu.org...
	11:30am Dean: Rova will play Harry's house soon, too.
	11:30am Dean: I mean, they will play at his house.
	🥁 11:34am hyde: ok, gotta cut out a bit early. got some weeding to do. (this is not a euphemism for pot smoking, honest!)
	11:35am Jeff Golick: Why not both?! Take care, @hyde! Give those weeds hell.
	11:49am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for another great show!
	11:50am Jeff Golick: My pleasure, @Andrew in Toronto! Thanks as always for being here.
	11:51am TDK60: Brand new Charles Lloyd? Frisell here too.
	11:52am Jeff Golick: Yeah, a trio of new (and different) trios from Lloyd coming this year. This is the first.
	🥁 11:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah I guess these guys are okay.
	11:53am Stork: Couldn't comment much (awww!) but heard most of the shew - welcome back, Jeff!!
	11:53am Stork: Stork Club opens in 7 minutes - playlist rah-cheah!! www.wfmu.org...
	11:54am Jeff Golick: I could sense your warm presence, @Stork. Thanks, and I'll see everybody over at the Club!
	🥁 11:54am WR: OK, security checks done, now gotta switch to kitchen duty. Thank you Jeff! Laters all y'all. Onward.
	11:54am Stork: Blood Count: in the top 10 greatest compositions ever!
	11:55am Jeff Golick: You're welcome, @WR. Carry on!
	11:56am TDK60: Gracias for the varied musical menu this morn, Jeff.
	🥁 11:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JG ~
	11:56am rw: TYJG!!!
	11:57am coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:58am Doug Schulkind: You have to stay after school for detention. But it was a good set.
	11:58am abbazabba: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:59am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	12:01pm Jeff Golick: Oh yeah, @TDK60, @RRNov63, @rw, @coela, @Doug (understood), @abbazabba, @chresti and one and all. See youse!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:24 (Pop-up)
Richard Teitelbaum	Asparagus "Asparagus" by "Richard Teitelbaum"	Asparagus (Original 1978 Soundtrack)	Sanity Muffin	1978/2016		0:07:38 (Pop-up)
Studio Dan	As We May Feel "As We May Feel" by "Studio Dan"	Breaking News	ezz-thetics	2017/2020	George Lewis, comp.	0:25:43 (Pop-up)
Pawe Szamburski	Bahai "Bahai" by "Pawe Szamburski"	Ceratitis Capitata	Lado ABC	2014		0:50:40 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					0:56:32 (Pop-up)
Horace Parlan	Lament for Booker Ervin	Lament for Booker Ervin	enja	1975		1:04:02 (Pop-up)
PUBLIQuartet	They Say I'm Different	WHAT IS AMERICAN	Bright Shiny Things	2022		1:11:20 (Pop-up)
Ashley Paul	Escape "Escape" by "Ashley Paul"	I Am Fog	Orange Milk Records	2022		1:14:18 (Pop-up)
Kot Kot	U SOSNY "U SOSNY" by "Kot Kot"	i pni	Aguirre Records	2022		1:18:56 (Pop-up)
Army of Briars	Go Song "Go Song" by "Army of Briars"	Made from a Broken Star	Discus Music	2022		1:23:59 (Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	All My Life "All My Life" by "Ornette Coleman"	Science Fiction	Columbia	1972	voc., Asha Puthli	1:27:57 (Pop-up)
Steve Swell's Systems for Total Immersion	Systems for Total Immersion	Hommage à Luciano Berio	Silkheart	2021		1:31:49 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Sextett	My Rock "My Rock" by "Henry Threadgill Sextett"	Easily Slip into Another World	Novus	1988	voc., Asha Puthli	1:42:18 (Pop-up)
Nico	These Days "These Days" by "Nico"	Chelsea Girl	Verve Records	1967		1:50:47 (Pop-up)
Sanem Kalfa, Joachim Badenhorst, George Dumitriu	Nani Nani Oy	Black Sea Songs	el NEGOCITO Records	2022		1:54:12 (Pop-up)
Bee Gees	Odessa (City on the Black Sea)	Odessa	Polydor	1969		1:58:02 (Pop-up)
Zola Jesus	Odessa "Odessa" by "Zola Jesus"	The Spoils	Sacred Bones	2009		2:04:28 (Pop-up)
Vadim Neselovskyi	Odesa 1941 "Odesa 1941" by "Vadim Neselovskyi"	Odesa: A Musical Walk Through a Legendary City	Sunnyside	2022		2:08:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Machine	Headhunter "Headhunter" by "Machine"					2:14:05 (Pop-up)
Lori Goldston & Stefan Christoff	Tarkovsky's Orbit	Punk Equinox	Dasa Tapes	2022		2:21:14 (Pop-up)
Wednesday Knudsen	From the Other Side of Silence (for J.B.)	"From the Other Side of Silence (for J.B.)	Black Dirt Studio	2018		2:25:28 (Pop-up)
Sally Anne Morgan	Through the Threshold	Cups	Thrill Jockey	2021		2:33:20 (Pop-up)
Kirk Knuffke Trio	June Stretched "June Stretched" by "Kirk Knuffke Trio"	Gravity without Airs	TAO Forms	2022		2:38:03 (Pop-up)
Charles Lloyd	Blood Count "Blood Count" by "Charles Lloyd"	Trios: Chapel	Blue Note	2022		2:47:52 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:55:16 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:12am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	8:30am Jeff Golick: Good (early) morning, @Andrew in Toronto!
	🥁 8:52am DJpeterDE: Good morning all! I woke up and there was a Jackson In My House.
	🥁 8:55am DJpeterDE: To be clear, not a Jeff Jackson
	9:00am Jeff Golick: That's good, @DJpeterDE!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: hello!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @hyde!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Hyde!
	🥁 9:04am doctorjazz: Heading out, family outing, will listen in transit, hey Jeff and Outies!
	🥁 9:04am Listener Gregory: Good morning, perfect people everywhere.
	🥁 9:04am hyde: hi AiT!
	🥁 9:07am DJpeterDE: I stan Johnny Coles! Just recently found a white whale, the first Dameronia LP.
	🥁 9:07am Doug Schulkind: D:O Radio, now more than ever.
	9:08am TDK60: Good morning, DJ Jeff. // 4th of July? -- blecchh.
	🥁 9:08am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo !! Glad for the d:O.
	9:09am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz! Dig the apron! Morning, @Listener Gregory! Morning, @Doug! Howdy, @TDK60! Howdy, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63!
	🥁 9:09am DJpeterDE: Great inspiration Jeff! Have you heard (both soundtracks for) Shirley Clarke’s Bridges-Go-Round? One is electronic and one is Teo Macero.
	9:10am Jeff Golick: I have not, @DJpeterDE! Ornette in America is in my queue (to watch again), but will look out for Bridges-Go-Round!
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Apologies -- there are a few short drop-outs in my rip.
	🥁 9:11am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...graphic maybe not getting me on the onramp to breakfast most perfectly - but I'ma plug the laptop into the stereo & has coffees & we'll go from here...
	🥁 9:12am WR: Sorry, just caught the last bit of your intro, although, I guess I can go watch the uboob vid, but what is that film about? I have mixed history with asparagus (noting that the pic says "Asparigus").
	9:13am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I wavered on that choice, @RRN63, but figured it does give an idea of the full Asparagus experience.
	🥁 9:13am DJpeterDE: Would be a great blog post: experimental music soundtracks for short films.
	9:15am Jeff Golick: Hey, @WR! It's a 20 minute animated short, with inventive techniques including painted cels, about...uh...a woman who goes out to the theatre and then back home? It's very transporting.
	🥁 9:15am WR: DJpeterDE, I think that subject could be a whole blog unto itself.
	🥁 9:18am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...not to disparage the pairing of asparagal defecation depiction & this particular presentation...
	9:20am Jeff Golick: In the film, the asparagus does a lot of work as a sexual symbol.
	🥁 9:21am WR: Curious that the PIC has the what appears to be a typo. All the hits I am seeing has usual asparagus spelling. Several say the film was seen as an opener for Eraserhead but not in the local theatre where I saw eraserhead back in the day.
	9:22am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I believe that's a typo ("Asparigus") on the cassette packaging of the only release I'm aware of.
	🥁 9:23am Doug Schulkind: Can I just say, asparagus pee is amazing. That shit happens in seconds.
	🥁 9:25am WR: Oh, it is a beautiful animation. Book marked for watching later, because actually, I am at work this morning. Will continue as a listener here though.
	🥁 9:27am WR: We all had that thought Doug, but you went ahead and stated it.
	🥁 9:28am Doug Schulkind: @WR I felt this space was safe enough for me to share.
	🥁 9:31am WR: Yes, of course, and yes, Doug. Am now wondering about the blog post or scientific paper that must exist about the rate and speed of the asparagus pee phenomena.
	9:34am Jeff Golick: That feels like it would be a clarion call for listener Dean, @WR.
	🥁 9:37am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...whistling past the asparagus pee rabbit hole myself for the moment @ least...
	9:37am Robm: Hello fellow out members
	9:38am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Robm!
	9:38am Robm: Thanks jeff
	9:39am Jeff Golick: (And I hope Jeffrey Toobin didn't read your opening comment.)
	9:39am abbazabba: Hello Jeff! Glad you’re back. Happy Sunday everyone
	9:40am Jeff Golick: Thanks, and welcome, @abbazabba! I'm so glad to be back!
	9:42am Robm: @Jeff you mean my opening comment? If so the only person i give a damn about would be station manager ken and I don’t want to be on his shit list
	9:44am Jeff Golick: Not to worry, @Robm. Just reaching for some wordplay. Only thing on today's shitlist? Asparagus.
	9:44am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	9:45am Robm: @Jeff or lima beans:)
	9:45am Jeff Golick: Hello, @Andrew Waterloo!
	9:46am Stork: Hey Outies all!
	9:46am Jeff Golick: Yo, @Stork!
	9:47am Listener Gregory: Excellent laundry-folding music.
	9:48am Gary via app: Good morning!
	9:49am Jeff Golick: @Gary!!
	🥁 9:52am WR: That George Lewis piece was beautiful.
	🥁 9:54am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Why we have the good speakers.
	9:55am TDK60: Bassoon on this Szamburski? Or bass clarinet? Other?
	9:55am Jeff Golick: I think it's clarinet, @TDK60
	9:56am Stork: This Szamburski piece is lovely. Don‘t know him/her.
	9:56am Jeff Golick: More info here: szamburski.bandcamp.com...
	🥁 9:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Stravinsky had the foresight that ...Spring would end up having more Rights than the rest of us...
	🥁 9:56am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	9:57am Jeff Golick: Heyo, @chresti!
	9:57am Stork: Nice snag DJPeter. I never found any Dameronia.
	10:02am Gary via app: Do you like the Sun Ra double-LP vocal overview?
	🥁 10:03am chresti: I go through periods where I can't listen to voices
	10:04am Gary via app: This one: https://www.discogs.com/master/1085698-Sun-Ra-And-His-Interplanetary-Vocal-Arkestra-The-Space-Age-Is-Here-To-Stay
	10:05am Jeff Golick: I do not have that, @Gary. I feel that, too, @chresti.
	10:05am TDK60: Hola chresti. I usually listen only to instrumental music if I'm reading or doing something mental. Vocals tend to demand too much attention.
	🥁 10:05am WR: Even reggae chresti? (goog morning!)
	🥁 10:06am WR: good....
	🥁 10:06am Listener Gregory: The immediacy of the human voice is driving me away, Jeff. (Also, visiting relatives.) I'll catch up on the archive. I really liked the George Lewis piece, though.
	10:07am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @LG! Take care, and happy (safe) visiting!
	🥁 10:08am chresti: Hola TDK60, exactly. Too distracting. Good morning WR, I'll listen to instrumental reggae/ska
	10:09am Gary via app: I feel the opposite Jeff! I need the voice or I feel bereft. But I love your show, which is confusing
	🥁 10:10am hyde: i often feel about vocals the way i do about portrait painting and photography. it's....fine. but give me landscapes or abstracts any time
	10:11am Jeff Golick: @Gary, you feel the feelings!
	10:12am TDK60: So, if I'm listening to Woody Guthrie, Nina Simone, John Prine, or Public Enemy, the book is set down.
	🥁 10:17am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never did get that HarrietTubman $20 Bill somehow.
	10:21am StringOFperils: Pinafores, gruel, and scratches. Now all I need is rain.
	10:21am WM: Shelley Hirsch is my choice among current jazz vocalists. O Little Town of East New York is a great record.
	10:21am Jeff Golick: @StringOFperils! @WM!
	10:22am Jeff Golick: @SOp, an evil stepmother also completes the picture.
	🥁 10:23am Doug Schulkind: I just think of the human voice as being another instrument.
	10:26am Jeff Golick: I try that sometimes, @Doug, but the sense of the words gets in my way.
	🥁 10:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lot to consider re Voice in Jazz. Yes - as Eno observed - when you have Voice - you have to grapple with the situation with Words. most often... When listening to a Jazz station - if there's a notable %age of Singing - it's usually Standards or Romantic material... Otherwise agree with Doug that considering Voice as Instrument has to be so...
	🥁 10:27am chresti: I can get very particular about voices, I can't tolerate a lot of the hissy nasal voices in pop music, for instance
	🥁 10:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes - Voices have very particular Timbres & characteristics.
	🥁 10:29am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...which makes my admiration of Singers who use Voice with the Control & Power of an Instrument the greater...
	🥁 10:30am hyde: yeah, i can only do the voices as instruments thing if i don't understand the language being sung
	10:31am TDK60: I can chew gum and walk listening to Medieval chants.
	🥁 10:31am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but as Subjective as feelings about a Personality or Appearance, say? Voice carries that much information... The Painting analogy ...Instruments are one kind of Brush or Color or Pen - & the Voice is ...what in that comparison...
	🥁 10:32am Doug Schulkind: @chresti Go listen to Amy Allison. She has the nasaliest voice on earth. And it is glorious.
	🥁 10:32am hyde: @TDK60 haha, i have to say that i cannot handle monk music at all.
	🥁 10:33am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All the Christianist associations with that - but I love drones & mystical stuff generally...
	10:33am TDK60: Revrab, it's interesting, there are some artists/bands I avoid simply because the vocalist isn't for me.
	🥁 10:35am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I guess the analogy of Abstract or Landscape compared to Figurative imagery is pretty serviceable ? ...tempted to say it breaks a fourth wall or something - but that's dragging the Composer into it - trying too hard on my part...
	10:35am Dean: Jaap Blonk, Phil Minton = voice as instrument John Coltrane = instrument as voice Some genres and vocalists (think Joe McGasko's story song sets) = voice as verbal communicator Other vocalists (Bono, Springsteen) = voice as gruel
	10:36am Dean: h/t SoP
	10:37am Jeff Golick: @Dean! (For all that, I have a hard time with Minton and Blonk.)
	🥁 10:38am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: .../Still Lifes - &tc. ...
	10:38am StringOFperils: Sometimes I'm not here for a good time, I'm here for a hard time. At least that's what they told me when they gave me this rifle metaphor.
	🥁 10:40am Doug Schulkind: @Jeff Golick I Diamanda that you listen to more challenging voices!
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Needless to say (?), any hard time I might have I attribute entirely to my own provincial ears, and not the art being created.
	10:41am Dean: Who'd win a uvula wrestling contest between Diamanda Galas and Gilbert Gottfried? Alas, we'll never know.
	🥁 10:41am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Prose: words in their best order; poetry: the best words in the best order.' - Samuel Taylor Coleridge
	🥁 10:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Music ?
	🥁 10:45am chresti: Chanting is allowed When I say hissy I'm thinking Madonna or Belinda kind of voice
	🥁 10:45am hyde: when Gilbert Gottfried died, i heard a recording of his actual, normal speaking voice and it was really bizarre to hear
	10:46am Dean: "All art constantly aspires towards the condition of music." - Walter Pater.
	🥁 10:47am chresti: Diana Ross, I loved the Supremes but not Diana's sound
	🥁 10:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...my sense that Voice breaks a Fourth Wall - as Art & especially (?) Music express what is usually not expressed. & Voice is too close to Home & Ground Zero, as it were... Is that one a Narc ?? Which is absurd in one sense cause I love all kinds of Music with Singing - but this Jazz business...
	🥁 10:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Well Madonna & Belinda are 'hissy' people...
	🥁 10:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Right - Diana playing LadyDay in the film - please.
	🥁 10:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Great Pop voice - but.
	🥁 10:49am hyde: my gf has a thing where she dislikes about 95% of female singers
	10:49am Dean: Then there are talents like Mark E Smith, whose voice breaks the ninth wall.
	🥁 10:51am hyde: the gf does like Nico, though
	🥁 10:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always loved Nico reflexively. Her singing anyhow.
	🥁 10:53am WR: What about Jackson Browne?
	🥁 10:53am chresti: I like Nico too. your gf sounds like me, hyde
	10:54am Dean: A new Marston disc arrived a few days ago, the complete recordings of Argentinian soprano Hina Spani, arias recorded in the '20s. Radiant.
	10:54am Dean: That is, the 1920s.
	🥁 10:55am WR: LOL Dean.
	10:55am Jeff Golick: Nico, Jackson Browne...our faves are problematic.
	10:56am Jeff Golick: "faves"
	🥁 10:56am hyde: @chresti if you can handle Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny but not Judy Dyble, then you're exactly alike!
	10:58am WM: Nico is a great choice. Also consider John Cage's arrangment of e. e. cumming's poem Foever and Sunsme. There is a version sung by Carla Bley. S
	11:01am Jeff Golick: Pretending I'm Uncle Michael here...
	11:01am StringOFperils: Impossible
	11:03am Dean: Speaking of Odessa, visit the poetry of Ilya Kaminsky: https://www.ilyakaminsky.com/dancing-in-odessa I met Ilya at OAK waiting to board a Southwest plane. This was around 20 years ago, when the book was published. We were both reading poetry, so we struck up a conversation about Shakespeare, etc. Ilya is deaf, reads lips. Ironically, it was hard for me to hear him over the sounds of the jets when we were in flight, but he understood me.
	🥁 11:03am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Wow. How did Odessa sell ??
	11:04am WM: Is this Bee Gees song supposed to be a homage to be a homage to Ukraine?
	11:04am Jeff Golick: @WM: you mean in its original release?
	🥁 11:04am WR: thanks for sharing that Dean, will look at his work.
	11:04am Dean: It was a homage to velour.
	11:05am StringOFperils: More of an antipodal boy's imaginary exotic far-away as the moon Ukraine
	🥁 11:05am chresti: I like Cluster's "Oh Odessa"
	11:05am Andres: Good morning, Jeff and all!. That Bee Gees is so great!!
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Odessa...Massachusetts...so exotic!
	11:06am coelacanth∅: g'morning Jeff, OUTies
	11:06am Jeff Golick: I don't know that one, @chresti! Will look... Hey, @Andres!
	11:07am Franco Twinkie: Hi everybody!
	11:07am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @coelacanth∅!
	11:07am Jeff Golick: Wassup, @Franco Twinkie!
	11:07am Franco Twinkie: Just got up Jeff.
	🥁 11:08am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...' Despite reaching the UK Top Ten and the US Top 20, the album was not particularly well-received '...
	11:08am Dean: Here's Ilya on the war: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/opinion/ukraine-odessa-poems.html
	11:08am StringOFperils: Good lookin' apricots, Franco.
	11:08am b0b0b0b plasticland WI.: Zola I believe is from WI.
	11:09am Andres: Owen Pallet “Odessa” another good one.
	11:09am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that, @b0b0b0b plasticland WI.! Welcome.
	11:11am b0b0b0b: no problem ..to be precise WAUSAU
	11:12am Franco Twinkie: SoP, I am fruit exhibitionist, and I'm telling the world!
	11:14am Andres: Oop. Actually it’s a cover of a Caribou song. Morning brain.
	11:23am bobobob: what bout the Fontella Bass Chicago Art ensemble collaboration
	11:25am Dean: Yikes. Harry Bernstein just announced a series of six free concerts at Salesforce Park in SF: Sunday July 17, 4pm Gerald Cleaver (percussion) Larry Ochs (tenor and soprano saxophones) Sunday July 31, 1pm Music at Large: Lewis Jordan (alto and baritone saxophones) Sandra Poindexter (violin) Bruce Ackley (saxophones) Ollen Erich Hunt (electric and acoustic bass) Jimmy Biala (percussion) Sunday August 7, 1pm Sirvan Manhoobi: Oud and Shourangiz (Iranian long neck lute) Nariman Asaadi: Daf and Tombak (Iranian percussion) Sunday August 14 4pm Rova Saxophone Quartet: Bruce Ackley (soprano saxophone) Steve Adams (alto saxophone) Larry Ochs (tenor saxophone) Jon Raskin (baritone saxophone) Tuesday August 16, 7pm CITA DI VITI: Phillip Greenlief: alto saxophone Lisa Mezzacappa: bass Jason Levis: drums (CITA DI VITI is Phillip Greenlief's project based upon & inspired by the movies of Michelangelo Antonioni) Sunday September 11, 4pm Jewish Leftist Intellectual: Ben Goldberg (clarinet) Rob Reich (accordion) Daniel Fabricant (bass)
	11:27am Dean: Harry directed last year's Other Minds Festival (Roscoe Mitchell, Mary Halvorson, Anthony Braxton, et al.), which featured a tribute to OM founder Jim Newman, Uncle Michael's uncle.
	11:28am Jeff Golick: That's a good line-up, @Dean. Yowza. @b0b0b0b: a good question -- tune into Stork to find out! wfmu.org...
	11:30am Dean: Rova will play Harry's house soon, too.
	11:30am Dean: I mean, they will play at his house.
	🥁 11:34am hyde: ok, gotta cut out a bit early. got some weeding to do. (this is not a euphemism for pot smoking, honest!)
	11:35am Jeff Golick: Why not both?! Take care, @hyde! Give those weeds hell.
	11:49am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for another great show!
	11:50am Jeff Golick: My pleasure, @Andrew in Toronto! Thanks as always for being here.
	11:51am TDK60: Brand new Charles Lloyd? Frisell here too.
	11:52am Jeff Golick: Yeah, a trio of new (and different) trios from Lloyd coming this year. This is the first.
	🥁 11:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah I guess these guys are okay.
	11:53am Stork: Couldn't comment much (awww!) but heard most of the shew - welcome back, Jeff!!
	11:53am Stork: Stork Club opens in 7 minutes - playlist rah-cheah!! www.wfmu.org...
	11:54am Jeff Golick: I could sense your warm presence, @Stork. Thanks, and I'll see everybody over at the Club!
	🥁 11:54am WR: OK, security checks done, now gotta switch to kitchen duty. Thank you Jeff! Laters all y'all. Onward.
	11:54am Stork: Blood Count: in the top 10 greatest compositions ever!
	11:55am Jeff Golick: You're welcome, @WR. Carry on!
	11:56am TDK60: Gracias for the varied musical menu this morn, Jeff.
	🥁 11:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JG ~
	11:56am rw: TYJG!!!
	11:57am coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:58am Doug Schulkind: You have to stay after school for detention. But it was a good set.
	11:58am abbazabba: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:59am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	12:01pm Jeff Golick: Oh yeah, @TDK60, @RRNov63, @rw, @coela, @Doug (understood), @abbazabba, @chresti and one and all. See youse!

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