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Favoriting November 15, 2021: Paul Bradley Carr, author, 1414º

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Tonight: Paul Bradley Carr, author, 1414º

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1414º on Indiebound

paulbradleycarr.com, Paul's website. His newsletter signup is about halfway down the About page.

• @paulbradleycarr (Twitter)

Reposting from last week (cut for time):

Henry Kissinger’s Last Crusade: Stopping Dangerous AI (Time magazine, Nov 5, 2021): Kissinger and his pal, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, inform us that AI is a threat and only the world’s richest and most powerful monopolies can save us. (thx, Daniel)

• Speaking of Eric Schmidt, New York City’s mayor-elect Eric Adams was spotted with Eric Schmidt in a victory party on election night. Then he boasted to Miami’s mayor that he’ll take his first three paychecks as mayor in bitcoin. (more in Bloomberg)

Biden’s $1.2 Trillion Infrastructure Bill Hastens Beacons For Bicyclists And Pedestrians Enabling Detection By Connected Cars: “The more likely version of the future is deeply dystopian, says transport historian Peter Norton. Only the beacon-equipped will be spotted, he fears. Those choosing - say, for economic or privacy reasons - not to fit bicycle-to-vehicle beacons will be blamed for being hit by sensor-equipped cars, believes Norton, author of Autonorama, a new book which details the potential civil liberty issues that pedestrians and cyclists may face from the roll-out of driverless vehicles.” (thx, Michael)

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  Paul Bradley Carr, author, 1414º
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack  n/a   
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  Mark's intro        
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  Interview with Paul Bradley Carr        
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  Mark's comments        
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Haroon Mirza  Technology will (en)Slave Us   Favoriting Pathology in Three Parts  TakuRoku (Cafe Oto)  https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/shop/haroon-mirza-pathology-in-three-parts/ 
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Listener comments!

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DanFA:

Mark, MartyMcSorley played your theme song on his show this past Saturday and I thought you had hacked his show to tell us how awesome NFTs are.
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark & all!
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtweentweens!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark and all the Techyon Drives!
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DanFA:

Greetings fans of Mark. Or as I call them, Markists.
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtoniacs!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and Techtocats!
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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
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Will the Sound Guy:

Hi Mark and all!!!
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

hey, Mark! hi, folx! chrestikins!
  6:03pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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chresti:

Hi Mx. BBkins!
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DjLorraine:

Greetings
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Friends!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Hii Hii Hii all!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Evening.
  6:04pm
Robm:

Hello fellow technoids
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Bas NL:

<He's got leeeegsss!
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spacecadet:

hey all!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
tim from washington:

Hey Mark and Techtockers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Mark Hurst:

@DanFA I'm a fan of Marty's show but unfortunately missed that - thanks for the heads-up!
  6:07pm
Listener Robert:

Ha, I guessed it -- parallel to Fahrenheit 451. I bet a lot of you did too.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Bas NL:

That's 1414°C...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining!
  6:07pm
cherry1998:

sick cover
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

So it's implying that pizza with silicon cheese is likely to burn the roof of your mouth? 🍕
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Mark Hurst:

@Bas good point, Celsius, sorry!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry:

Y Not? Combinator!
  6:09pm
Roland from Australia:

Good morning, better late than never. Glad to be here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

@Roland welcome!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
iiibeat:

I always thought that silicon is melted quartz . . Hmm . .
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Bas NL:

Quartz is 'rusted' silicon.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
PaulRobeson1920:

I’m wondering, ever read the NY Post? “Journalists” work there… “Journalism”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
ultradamno:

John Oliver's season finale last night touched on Amazon's well-known anti-union efforts, by the way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Mark Hurst:

Themes of 1414º: journalism, sexism and misogyny in Silicon Valley, and sociopaths with money and power.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
tim from washington:

Just placed a purchase request for 1414 at my local library.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Mark Hurst:

The main fictional company is called "Raum"... with cars-via-app allowing you to call a "vRaum"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Little Danny:

Hello Mark hello all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi Little Danny
  6:19pm
The Butterman:

They think they cute.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Handy Haversack:

That derivation from Lebensraum is chilling, and the point about utter lack of understanding of names and their power from the SV "never head of SS at all, born in Shropsire I was, mein dickie old chum" types is really well made. Looking forward to reading this one.

Poor Ozymandius had an accident. So might you all.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Like misappropriating Tolkien's 'Palantiri' - in his Fiction a Farseeing device that too often tended to warp the minds & morals of its users.
...California Uber Alles indeed...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Handy Haversack:

Exactly, Rev Rab!

Also, when will be free to title our fiction in Kelvin?!
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Jeff Moore:

Wait.

Really, they brosplained the Shelley poem?
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Carmichael:

Handy, sounds like the Mr. Hilter sketch from Monty Python.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Mark Hurst:

@Jeff that's what Paul said, yes - I haven't seen the source but he knows his stuff...
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tim from washington:

I think the lack of historical context explains the contradictions of the far right too. i.e. Boogaloo Boys, flying the Confederate and Israeli flag together=, et al.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Ozymandis a Poem about Hubris specifically. Just wow.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Handy Haversack:

I'm just saying, Carmichael ...

The syntax of that poem is so chillingly weird. These people, I swear. If there were a law, it would be against it!
  6:23pm
Zephyr:

OMG. I friggin love this guy.
He’s 100% perfect.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
DanFA:

Silicon Valley mindset: Dude, like, history is so gay.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

See ...there's more than one Big Lie.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...but the Intersection...
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ultradamno:

@Tim have you seen the confederate/POW flag? I guess they won't rest until we find the missing soldiers of the south dixiebone.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
ultradamno:

The Ozy name really makes the Pied Piper stuff on the show Silicon Valley seem normal
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Mark Hurst:

@ultra yes - the Silicon Valley show was *very* mild, compared to what Paul is pointing out in his book
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...NYC real estate trust fund shyster
...dorm nerd with insufficient Social skills
...an Australian Publisher who's been shamed & indicted in the UK
...the Spears of Destiny have been handed to the morally deformed over & over here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
DanFA:

So what if Silicon Valley wants to privatize oxygen. What's the harm?
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chresti:

The Phallus building in sf is the one that's sinking?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Mark Hurst:

@chresti no the sinking building is a condo tower
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Handy Haversack:

I did production editing for the Best Business Writing 21XX series for a set of years. All investigative reporting and excellent. But drowned out by the fawning access journalism of the big business press. So depressing.
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DanFA:

I heard Kara Swisher was going to run for mayor of San Francisco. Don't know if that's still in the works.
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DanFA:

www.sfgate.com...
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tim from washington:

@ultradamno - yes I have and I have had the same exact thought as you - hahaha!
  6:33pm
David in London:

There is a special place reserved for Nick Clegg in my garden of unpleasant delights.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
tim from washington:

Wow! Politicians going to Big Tech. That's crazy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Mark Hurst:

@Handy that's interesting - did the eventual published product include more of the excellent reporting or more of the access journalism?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Sounds like we live in a “Technopoly”
The Surrender of culture to Technology…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
DanFA:

You shouldn't be allowed to start your own business until you're at the very least 30.
  6:36pm
Old Dave:

Some depressing truth from your guest.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
ultradamno:

That, don't go to college learn from me reminds me of the Rush Limbaugh "I read all the news, so I'm all the source of information you need" line
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
iiibeat:

Well . . The atomic number for silicon is 14. Made me look.
  6:37pm
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Excellent show, guys!
So good that I’ve been listening while making dinner and dealing with kids - thinking I’d been tuned into WBAI!
Keep the pressure on, comrades!
Someday (soon hopefully) we’ll get a good pry and topple the whole corporate crony capitalist/surveillance state thing over.
Inspiring.
  Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Zinn The Mood:

^That was me^
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PaulRobeson1920:

the promotion of 1 Deity, even a technological one, requires the trivialization of all others…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
DanFA:

History tells us people are always genociding each other. If we don't start a genocide, then some other company will.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
tim from washington:

Is there a way to block the exits when Zuck and his cronies are hanging out in the metaverse?
  6:40pm
Sam:

It seems a lot of tech nerds are attracted to a kind of amoral facile libertarianism that glosses over human suffering. I knew guys like that in high school; god knows what they’re up to now.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Atlas Plugged
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ultradamno:

Is the genocide what they're referring to in the Meta "this is going to be fun" commercial.

That they present Meta like it's promoting a museum for children is another can of worms.
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dk50b:

Not as offensive, but insulting at least to the 10% of people who are lefties and familiar the hateful predecessors of that word. Lyft is an old English word for the left handed meaning weak or foolish.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
DanFA:

That's too hard.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
ultradamno:

That's what she said.

BAM! Landed it!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Was just saying - as I see it there are two Questions or Concerns :
The consequences of the Monopolies controlling it all now
- & the Consequences of Tech & Media themselves for the Human Being & Society.
I've always been a Media Head - long before the Digital Revolution - & I earnestly wish we could break the Monopolies on Tech, but I've no idea how it could happen, given the People are nowhere near ready to rise against them.
Yet I don't discount the 2nd Question...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Little Danny:

Really enjoyed this interview! Also you both are great conversationalists
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tim from washington:

What a cool guest today!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Metaphysical…. The other side

FB is coopting the word Meta….
This goes to further Neil Postman’s world view… yes. we live in a Technopoly
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

So love that there are Creatives responding to & taking it all on.
  6:49pm
Brendan:

Enjoyed the interview
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
DanFA:

Call screener Phil walks among us.
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ARB:

Up Henry Kissinger's colon
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
DanFA:

"Mark Zuckerberg's Spanish Inquisition Against Trolls"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
tim from washington:

Sounds like that doofussy old guy movie 'Bucket List".
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...mein Fuhrer ...I can valk !...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Handy Haversack:

Mark, this is one of the best interviews yet. Really wonderful talk -- and pitch perfect take on the roles of fiction and non- in getting into people's heads and trying, somehow, to get the scales to fall from their eyes -- that is, to get them to actually KNOW the things they see.

Many thanks to you and Paul.

Stay Toniced, Techyons.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Handy Haversack:

Mark (@6:35): The investigative. That's likely why the series didn't survive ...
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chresti:

Wait, is Eric the "don't be evil" guy?
  6:56pm
Sam:

Only the republicans can protect you from the crime that they created by defunding schools and flooding the streets with guns!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
DjLorraine:

Well said
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
DanFA:

@Chresti - I think that was the original creators of Google. I could be wrong though.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Handy Haversack:

(Was chopping the veggies and pressing the tofu. But listening the whole time. Big news about this mineshaft gap!!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
ultradamno:

I'm still stunned there's still a Time Magazine
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Arsonists : Both light the fire & phone it in.
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Mister Dobalina:

Thank you, Mark!
  6:56pm
Old Dave:

Wait, Eric was working a summer job painting dumpsters when I knew him...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Little Danny:

Hell yeah Mark, thank you!!!
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Will the Sound Guy:

enjoyed the show, Thank you Mark!!!
  Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
SeaCreature:

Gotta love Mark’s energy
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul!
  6:57pm
GC in Baltimore:

Kissinger is a genocidal war criminal. Jail for him.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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Stillwell Coney Islander:

Thanks Mark!
  6:57pm
Andres:

Great interview, Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Handy Haversack:

I'm still stunned there's time!
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tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark!!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
DanFA:

Mark, you should do a whole episode on tech news. No interviews. Cheers!
Avatar 6:58pm
ARB:

Already loving this outro song, thanks Mark and Paul and Daniel!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Mark Hurst:

@ARB thanks! Looking forward to your show!
  6:58pm
P-90:

Thanks!
  6:58pm
Old Dave:

Fine show, Mark
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Mark Hurst:

@Handy thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
ultradamno:

Sure there's still time, it's just doing the standing still
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PaulRobeson1920:

Kissinger, at the behest of Nixon, sabotaged the peace talks in Vietnam. on the eve of the 68’ election. Privately LBJ considered this treason…

The Hague can still call Henery at his home, overlooking the park. wheel him down to the street & whisk him the Netherlands For a fair Trial. NOW

Thank you Mark & WFMU!
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chresti:

Great intro to ARB's show too!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY MH ~
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, all, good comments - I appreciate you being here.
Avatar 7:01pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Perfectly true. Watch Burns' Vietnam series.
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