WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 15, 2021

Listener comments!
	6:01pm DanFA: Mark, MartyMcSorley played your theme song on his show this past Saturday and I thought you had hacked his show to tell us how awesome NFTs are.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark & all!
	6:01pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtweentweens!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Mark and all the Techyon Drives!
	6:01pm DanFA: Greetings fans of Mark. Or as I call them, Markists.
	🤖 6:01pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtoniacs!
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and Techtocats!
	6:02pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:02pm Will the Sound Guy: Hi Mark and all!!!
	🤖 6:02pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): hey, Mark! hi, folx! chrestikins!
	6:03pm David in London: Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:03pm chresti: Hi Mx. BBkins!
	🤖 6:03pm DjLorraine: Greetings
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends!
	🤖 6:04pm PaulRobeson1920: Hii Hii Hii all!
	6:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening.
	6:04pm Robm: Hello fellow technoids
	🤖 6:04pm Bas NL: <He's got leeeegsss!
	🤖 6:04pm spacecadet: hey all!
	🤖 6:06pm tim from washington: Hey Mark and Techtockers!
	6:06pm Mark Hurst: @DanFA I'm a fan of Marty's show but unfortunately missed that - thanks for the heads-up!
	6:07pm Listener Robert: Ha, I guessed it -- parallel to Fahrenheit 451. I bet a lot of you did too.
	🤖 6:07pm Bas NL: That's 1414°C...
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining!
	6:07pm cherry1998: sick cover
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: So it's implying that pizza with silicon cheese is likely to burn the roof of your mouth? 🍕
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: @Bas good point, Celsius, sorry!
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Y Not? Combinator!
	6:09pm Roland from Australia: Good morning, better late than never. Glad to be here.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: @Roland welcome!
	6:10pm iiibeat: I always thought that silicon is melted quartz . . Hmm . .
	🤖 6:12pm Bas NL: Quartz is 'rusted' silicon.
	🤖 6:13pm PaulRobeson1920: I’m wondering, ever read the NY Post? “Journalists” work there… “Journalism”
	6:14pm ultradamno: John Oliver's season finale last night touched on Amazon's well-known anti-union efforts, by the way.
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: Themes of 1414º: journalism, sexism and misogyny in Silicon Valley, and sociopaths with money and power.
	🤖 6:15pm tim from washington: Just placed a purchase request for 1414 at my local library.
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: The main fictional company is called "Raum"... with cars-via-app allowing you to call a "vRaum"
	6:18pm Little Danny: Hello Mark hello all!
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: Hi Little Danny
	6:19pm The Butterman: They think they cute.
	🤖 6:19pm Handy Haversack: That derivation from Lebensraum is chilling, and the point about utter lack of understanding of names and their power from the SV "never head of SS at all, born in Shropsire I was, mein dickie old chum" types is really well made. Looking forward to reading this one. Poor Ozymandius had an accident. So might you all.
	6:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like misappropriating Tolkien's 'Palantiri' - in his Fiction a Farseeing device that too often tended to warp the minds & morals of its users. ...California Uber Alles indeed...
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: Exactly, Rev Rab! Also, when will be free to title our fiction in Kelvin?!
	6:20pm Jeff Moore: Wait. Really, they brosplained the Shelley poem?
	6:21pm Carmichael: Handy, sounds like the Mr. Hilter sketch from Monty Python.
	6:21pm Mark Hurst: @Jeff that's what Paul said, yes - I haven't seen the source but he knows his stuff...
	🤖 6:22pm tim from washington: I think the lack of historical context explains the contradictions of the far right too. i.e. Boogaloo Boys, flying the Confederate and Israeli flag together=, et al.
	6:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ozymandis a Poem about Hubris specifically. Just wow.
	🤖 6:22pm Handy Haversack: I'm just saying, Carmichael ... The syntax of that poem is so chillingly weird. These people, I swear. If there were a law, it would be against it!
	6:23pm Zephyr: OMG. I friggin love this guy. He’s 100% perfect.
	6:23pm DanFA: Silicon Valley mindset: Dude, like, history is so gay.
	6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: See ...there's more than one Big Lie.
	6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but the Intersection...
	6:24pm ultradamno: @Tim have you seen the confederate/POW flag? I guess they won't rest until we find the missing soldiers of the south dixiebone.com...
	6:25pm ultradamno: The Ozy name really makes the Pied Piper stuff on the show Silicon Valley seem normal
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @ultra yes - the Silicon Valley show was very mild, compared to what Paul is pointing out in his book
	6:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...NYC real estate trust fund shyster ...dorm nerd with insufficient Social skills ...an Australian Publisher who's been shamed & indicted in the UK ...the Spears of Destiny have been handed to the morally deformed over & over here.
	6:27pm DanFA: So what if Silicon Valley wants to privatize oxygen. What's the harm?
	🤖 6:28pm chresti: The Phallus building in sf is the one that's sinking?
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @chresti no the sinking building is a condo tower
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: I did production editing for the Best Business Writing 21XX series for a set of years. All investigative reporting and excellent. But drowned out by the fawning access journalism of the big business press. So depressing.
	6:29pm DanFA: I heard Kara Swisher was going to run for mayor of San Francisco. Don't know if that's still in the works.
	6:30pm DanFA: www.sfgate.com...
	🤖 6:31pm tim from washington: @ultradamno - yes I have and I have had the same exact thought as you - hahaha!
	6:33pm David in London: There is a special place reserved for Nick Clegg in my garden of unpleasant delights.
	🤖 6:33pm tim from washington: Wow! Politicians going to Big Tech. That's crazy!
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @Handy that's interesting - did the eventual published product include more of the excellent reporting or more of the access journalism?
	🤖 6:36pm PaulRobeson1920: Sounds like we live in a “Technopoly” The Surrender of culture to Technology…
	6:36pm DanFA: You shouldn't be allowed to start your own business until you're at the very least 30.
	6:36pm Old Dave: Some depressing truth from your guest.
	6:37pm ultradamno: That, don't go to college learn from me reminds me of the Rush Limbaugh "I read all the news, so I'm all the source of information you need" line
	6:37pm iiibeat: Well . . The atomic number for silicon is 14. Made me look.
	6:37pm ?: Excellent show, guys! So good that I’ve been listening while making dinner and dealing with kids - thinking I’d been tuned into WBAI! Keep the pressure on, comrades! Someday (soon hopefully) we’ll get a good pry and topple the whole corporate crony capitalist/surveillance state thing over. Inspiring.
	6:38pm Zinn The Mood: ^That was me^
	🤖 6:39pm PaulRobeson1920: the promotion of 1 Deity, even a technological one, requires the trivialization of all others…
	6:39pm DanFA: History tells us people are always genociding each other. If we don't start a genocide, then some other company will.
	🤖 6:40pm tim from washington: Is there a way to block the exits when Zuck and his cronies are hanging out in the metaverse?
	6:40pm Sam: It seems a lot of tech nerds are attracted to a kind of amoral facile libertarianism that glosses over human suffering. I knew guys like that in high school; god knows what they’re up to now.
	6:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Atlas Plugged
	6:40pm ultradamno: Is the genocide what they're referring to in the Meta "this is going to be fun" commercial. That they present Meta like it's promoting a museum for children is another can of worms.
	6:42pm dk50b: Not as offensive, but insulting at least to the 10% of people who are lefties and familiar the hateful predecessors of that word. Lyft is an old English word for the left handed meaning weak or foolish.
	6:45pm DanFA: That's too hard.
	6:46pm ultradamno: That's what she said. BAM! Landed it!
	6:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Was just saying - as I see it there are two Questions or Concerns : The consequences of the Monopolies controlling it all now - & the Consequences of Tech & Media themselves for the Human Being & Society. I've always been a Media Head - long before the Digital Revolution - & I earnestly wish we could break the Monopolies on Tech, but I've no idea how it could happen, given the People are nowhere near ready to rise against them. Yet I don't discount the 2nd Question...
	6:48pm Little Danny: Really enjoyed this interview! Also you both are great conversationalists
	🤖 6:48pm tim from washington: What a cool guest today!
	🤖 6:48pm PaulRobeson1920: Metaphysical…. The other side FB is coopting the word Meta…. This goes to further Neil Postman’s world view… yes. we live in a Technopoly
	6:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So love that there are Creatives responding to & taking it all on.
	6:49pm Brendan: Enjoyed the interview
	6:51pm DanFA: Call screener Phil walks among us.
	6:51pm ARB: Up Henry Kissinger's colon
	6:52pm DanFA: "Mark Zuckerberg's Spanish Inquisition Against Trolls"
	🤖 6:53pm tim from washington: Sounds like that doofussy old guy movie 'Bucket List".
	6:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...mein Fuhrer ...I can valk !...
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Mark, this is one of the best interviews yet. Really wonderful talk -- and pitch perfect take on the roles of fiction and non- in getting into people's heads and trying, somehow, to get the scales to fall from their eyes -- that is, to get them to actually KNOW the things they see. Many thanks to you and Paul. Stay Toniced, Techyons.
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Mark (@6:35): The investigative. That's likely why the series didn't survive ...
	🤖 6:55pm chresti: Wait, is Eric the "don't be evil" guy?
	6:56pm Sam: Only the republicans can protect you from the crime that they created by defunding schools and flooding the streets with guns!
	🤖 6:56pm DjLorraine: Well said
	6:56pm DanFA: @Chresti - I think that was the original creators of Google. I could be wrong though.
	🤖 6:56pm Handy Haversack: (Was chopping the veggies and pressing the tofu. But listening the whole time. Big news about this mineshaft gap!!)
	6:56pm ultradamno: I'm still stunned there's still a Time Magazine
	6:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Arsonists : Both light the fire & phone it in.
	6:56pm Mister Dobalina: Thank you, Mark!
	6:56pm Old Dave: Wait, Eric was working a summer job painting dumpsters when I knew him...
	6:56pm Little Danny: Hell yeah Mark, thank you!!!
	🤖 6:56pm Will the Sound Guy: enjoyed the show, Thank you Mark!!!
	6:57pm SeaCreature: Gotta love Mark’s energy
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul!
	6:57pm GC in Baltimore: Kissinger is a genocidal war criminal. Jail for him.
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Stillwell Coney Islander: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Andres: Great interview, Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm Handy Haversack: I'm still stunned there's time!
	🤖 6:57pm tim from washington: Thanks, Mark!!!!!!
	6:57pm DanFA: Mark, you should do a whole episode on tech news. No interviews. Cheers!
	6:58pm ARB: Already loving this outro song, thanks Mark and Paul and Daniel!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @ARB thanks! Looking forward to your show!
	6:58pm P-90: Thanks!
	6:58pm Old Dave: Fine show, Mark
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks!
	6:59pm ultradamno: Sure there's still time, it's just doing the standing still
	🤖 6:59pm PaulRobeson1920: Kissinger, at the behest of Nixon, sabotaged the peace talks in Vietnam. on the eve of the 68’ election. Privately LBJ considered this treason… The Hague can still call Henery at his home, overlooking the park. wheel him down to the street & whisk him the Netherlands For a fair Trial. NOW Thank you Mark & WFMU!
	🤖 7:00pm chresti: Great intro to ARB's show too!
	7:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY MH ~
	7:01pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, all, good comments - I appreciate you being here.
	7:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Perfectly true. Watch Burns' Vietnam series.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 15, 2021

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November 15, 2021: Paul Bradley Carr, author, 1414º

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Tonight: Paul Bradley Carr, author, 1414º

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Reposting from last week (cut for time):

• Henry Kissinger’s Last Crusade: Stopping Dangerous AI (Time magazine, Nov 5, 2021): Kissinger and his pal, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, inform us that AI is a threat and only the world’s richest and most powerful monopolies can save us. (thx, Daniel)

• Speaking of Eric Schmidt, New York City’s mayor-elect Eric Adams was spotted with Eric Schmidt in a victory party on election night. Then he boasted to Miami’s mayor that he’ll take his first three paychecks as mayor in bitcoin. (more in Bloomberg)

• Biden’s $1.2 Trillion Infrastructure Bill Hastens Beacons For Bicyclists And Pedestrians Enabling Detection By Connected Cars: “The more likely version of the future is deeply dystopian, says transport historian Peter Norton. Only the beacon-equipped will be spotted, he fears. Those choosing - say, for economic or privacy reasons - not to fit bicycle-to-vehicle beacons will be blamed for being hit by sensor-equipped cars, believes Norton, author of Autonorama, a new book which details the potential civil liberty issues that pedestrians and cyclists may face from the roll-out of driverless vehicles.” (thx, Michael)

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Listener comments!
	6:01pm DanFA: Mark, MartyMcSorley played your theme song on his show this past Saturday and I thought you had hacked his show to tell us how awesome NFTs are.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark & all!
	6:01pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtweentweens!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Mark and all the Techyon Drives!
	6:01pm DanFA: Greetings fans of Mark. Or as I call them, Markists.
	🤖 6:01pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtoniacs!
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and Techtocats!
	6:02pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:02pm Will the Sound Guy: Hi Mark and all!!!
	🤖 6:02pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): hey, Mark! hi, folx! chrestikins!
	6:03pm David in London: Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:03pm chresti: Hi Mx. BBkins!
	🤖 6:03pm DjLorraine: Greetings
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends!
	🤖 6:04pm PaulRobeson1920: Hii Hii Hii all!
	6:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening.
	6:04pm Robm: Hello fellow technoids
	🤖 6:04pm Bas NL: <He's got leeeegsss!
	🤖 6:04pm spacecadet: hey all!
	🤖 6:06pm tim from washington: Hey Mark and Techtockers!
	6:06pm Mark Hurst: @DanFA I'm a fan of Marty's show but unfortunately missed that - thanks for the heads-up!
	6:07pm Listener Robert: Ha, I guessed it -- parallel to Fahrenheit 451. I bet a lot of you did too.
	🤖 6:07pm Bas NL: That's 1414°C...
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining!
	6:07pm cherry1998: sick cover
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: So it's implying that pizza with silicon cheese is likely to burn the roof of your mouth? 🍕
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: @Bas good point, Celsius, sorry!
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: Y Not? Combinator!
	6:09pm Roland from Australia: Good morning, better late than never. Glad to be here.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: @Roland welcome!
	6:10pm iiibeat: I always thought that silicon is melted quartz . . Hmm . .
	🤖 6:12pm Bas NL: Quartz is 'rusted' silicon.
	🤖 6:13pm PaulRobeson1920: I’m wondering, ever read the NY Post? “Journalists” work there… “Journalism”
	6:14pm ultradamno: John Oliver's season finale last night touched on Amazon's well-known anti-union efforts, by the way.
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: Themes of 1414º: journalism, sexism and misogyny in Silicon Valley, and sociopaths with money and power.
	🤖 6:15pm tim from washington: Just placed a purchase request for 1414 at my local library.
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: The main fictional company is called "Raum"... with cars-via-app allowing you to call a "vRaum"
	6:18pm Little Danny: Hello Mark hello all!
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: Hi Little Danny
	6:19pm The Butterman: They think they cute.
	🤖 6:19pm Handy Haversack: That derivation from Lebensraum is chilling, and the point about utter lack of understanding of names and their power from the SV "never head of SS at all, born in Shropsire I was, mein dickie old chum" types is really well made. Looking forward to reading this one. Poor Ozymandius had an accident. So might you all.
	6:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like misappropriating Tolkien's 'Palantiri' - in his Fiction a Farseeing device that too often tended to warp the minds & morals of its users. ...California Uber Alles indeed...
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: Exactly, Rev Rab! Also, when will be free to title our fiction in Kelvin?!
	6:20pm Jeff Moore: Wait. Really, they brosplained the Shelley poem?
	6:21pm Carmichael: Handy, sounds like the Mr. Hilter sketch from Monty Python.
	6:21pm Mark Hurst: @Jeff that's what Paul said, yes - I haven't seen the source but he knows his stuff...
	🤖 6:22pm tim from washington: I think the lack of historical context explains the contradictions of the far right too. i.e. Boogaloo Boys, flying the Confederate and Israeli flag together=, et al.
	6:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ozymandis a Poem about Hubris specifically. Just wow.
	🤖 6:22pm Handy Haversack: I'm just saying, Carmichael ... The syntax of that poem is so chillingly weird. These people, I swear. If there were a law, it would be against it!
	6:23pm Zephyr: OMG. I friggin love this guy. He’s 100% perfect.
	6:23pm DanFA: Silicon Valley mindset: Dude, like, history is so gay.
	6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: See ...there's more than one Big Lie.
	6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but the Intersection...
	6:24pm ultradamno: @Tim have you seen the confederate/POW flag? I guess they won't rest until we find the missing soldiers of the south dixiebone.com...
	6:25pm ultradamno: The Ozy name really makes the Pied Piper stuff on the show Silicon Valley seem normal
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @ultra yes - the Silicon Valley show was very mild, compared to what Paul is pointing out in his book
	6:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...NYC real estate trust fund shyster ...dorm nerd with insufficient Social skills ...an Australian Publisher who's been shamed & indicted in the UK ...the Spears of Destiny have been handed to the morally deformed over & over here.
	6:27pm DanFA: So what if Silicon Valley wants to privatize oxygen. What's the harm?
	🤖 6:28pm chresti: The Phallus building in sf is the one that's sinking?
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @chresti no the sinking building is a condo tower
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: I did production editing for the Best Business Writing 21XX series for a set of years. All investigative reporting and excellent. But drowned out by the fawning access journalism of the big business press. So depressing.
	6:29pm DanFA: I heard Kara Swisher was going to run for mayor of San Francisco. Don't know if that's still in the works.
	6:30pm DanFA: www.sfgate.com...
	🤖 6:31pm tim from washington: @ultradamno - yes I have and I have had the same exact thought as you - hahaha!
	6:33pm David in London: There is a special place reserved for Nick Clegg in my garden of unpleasant delights.
	🤖 6:33pm tim from washington: Wow! Politicians going to Big Tech. That's crazy!
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @Handy that's interesting - did the eventual published product include more of the excellent reporting or more of the access journalism?
	🤖 6:36pm PaulRobeson1920: Sounds like we live in a “Technopoly” The Surrender of culture to Technology…
	6:36pm DanFA: You shouldn't be allowed to start your own business until you're at the very least 30.
	6:36pm Old Dave: Some depressing truth from your guest.
	6:37pm ultradamno: That, don't go to college learn from me reminds me of the Rush Limbaugh "I read all the news, so I'm all the source of information you need" line
	6:37pm iiibeat: Well . . The atomic number for silicon is 14. Made me look.
	6:37pm ?: Excellent show, guys! So good that I’ve been listening while making dinner and dealing with kids - thinking I’d been tuned into WBAI! Keep the pressure on, comrades! Someday (soon hopefully) we’ll get a good pry and topple the whole corporate crony capitalist/surveillance state thing over. Inspiring.
	6:38pm Zinn The Mood: ^That was me^
	🤖 6:39pm PaulRobeson1920: the promotion of 1 Deity, even a technological one, requires the trivialization of all others…
	6:39pm DanFA: History tells us people are always genociding each other. If we don't start a genocide, then some other company will.
	🤖 6:40pm tim from washington: Is there a way to block the exits when Zuck and his cronies are hanging out in the metaverse?
	6:40pm Sam: It seems a lot of tech nerds are attracted to a kind of amoral facile libertarianism that glosses over human suffering. I knew guys like that in high school; god knows what they’re up to now.
	6:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Atlas Plugged
	6:40pm ultradamno: Is the genocide what they're referring to in the Meta "this is going to be fun" commercial. That they present Meta like it's promoting a museum for children is another can of worms.
	6:42pm dk50b: Not as offensive, but insulting at least to the 10% of people who are lefties and familiar the hateful predecessors of that word. Lyft is an old English word for the left handed meaning weak or foolish.
	6:45pm DanFA: That's too hard.
	6:46pm ultradamno: That's what she said. BAM! Landed it!
	6:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Was just saying - as I see it there are two Questions or Concerns : The consequences of the Monopolies controlling it all now - & the Consequences of Tech & Media themselves for the Human Being & Society. I've always been a Media Head - long before the Digital Revolution - & I earnestly wish we could break the Monopolies on Tech, but I've no idea how it could happen, given the People are nowhere near ready to rise against them. Yet I don't discount the 2nd Question...
	6:48pm Little Danny: Really enjoyed this interview! Also you both are great conversationalists
	🤖 6:48pm tim from washington: What a cool guest today!
	🤖 6:48pm PaulRobeson1920: Metaphysical…. The other side FB is coopting the word Meta…. This goes to further Neil Postman’s world view… yes. we live in a Technopoly
	6:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So love that there are Creatives responding to & taking it all on.
	6:49pm Brendan: Enjoyed the interview
	6:51pm DanFA: Call screener Phil walks among us.
	6:51pm ARB: Up Henry Kissinger's colon
	6:52pm DanFA: "Mark Zuckerberg's Spanish Inquisition Against Trolls"
	🤖 6:53pm tim from washington: Sounds like that doofussy old guy movie 'Bucket List".
	6:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...mein Fuhrer ...I can valk !...
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Mark, this is one of the best interviews yet. Really wonderful talk -- and pitch perfect take on the roles of fiction and non- in getting into people's heads and trying, somehow, to get the scales to fall from their eyes -- that is, to get them to actually KNOW the things they see. Many thanks to you and Paul. Stay Toniced, Techyons.
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Mark (@6:35): The investigative. That's likely why the series didn't survive ...
	🤖 6:55pm chresti: Wait, is Eric the "don't be evil" guy?
	6:56pm Sam: Only the republicans can protect you from the crime that they created by defunding schools and flooding the streets with guns!
	🤖 6:56pm DjLorraine: Well said
	6:56pm DanFA: @Chresti - I think that was the original creators of Google. I could be wrong though.
	🤖 6:56pm Handy Haversack: (Was chopping the veggies and pressing the tofu. But listening the whole time. Big news about this mineshaft gap!!)
	6:56pm ultradamno: I'm still stunned there's still a Time Magazine
	6:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Arsonists : Both light the fire & phone it in.
	6:56pm Mister Dobalina: Thank you, Mark!
	6:56pm Old Dave: Wait, Eric was working a summer job painting dumpsters when I knew him...
	6:56pm Little Danny: Hell yeah Mark, thank you!!!
	🤖 6:56pm Will the Sound Guy: enjoyed the show, Thank you Mark!!!
	6:57pm SeaCreature: Gotta love Mark’s energy
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul!
	6:57pm GC in Baltimore: Kissinger is a genocidal war criminal. Jail for him.
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Stillwell Coney Islander: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Andres: Great interview, Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm Handy Haversack: I'm still stunned there's time!
	🤖 6:57pm tim from washington: Thanks, Mark!!!!!!
	6:57pm DanFA: Mark, you should do a whole episode on tech news. No interviews. Cheers!
	6:58pm ARB: Already loving this outro song, thanks Mark and Paul and Daniel!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @ARB thanks! Looking forward to your show!
	6:58pm P-90: Thanks!
	6:58pm Old Dave: Fine show, Mark
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks!
	6:59pm ultradamno: Sure there's still time, it's just doing the standing still
	🤖 6:59pm PaulRobeson1920: Kissinger, at the behest of Nixon, sabotaged the peace talks in Vietnam. on the eve of the 68’ election. Privately LBJ considered this treason… The Hague can still call Henery at his home, overlooking the park. wheel him down to the street & whisk him the Netherlands For a fair Trial. NOW Thank you Mark & WFMU!
	🤖 7:00pm chresti: Great intro to ARB's show too!
	7:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY MH ~
	7:01pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, all, good comments - I appreciate you being here.
	7:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Perfectly true. Watch Burns' Vietnam series.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from November 15, 2021

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