WFMU: Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from May 4, 2021

Listener comments!
	🦇 2:58pm listener james from westwood: How do, Julie and all! These aren't the droids you're looking for.
	🦇 2:59pm Julie: hiya James!
	3:01pm David (in London): Hey Julie and all groovers here assembled.
	🦇 3:01pm Handy Haversack: Hi, Julie and all those who know the true power of the Dark Side.
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: hi Handy! Hey David!
	3:04pm spodiodi: hi Julie! hi james, David, Handy, all!
	🦇 3:05pm Julie: hiya Spodi!
	🦇 3:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Julie! Goodbye, Alderaan!
	🦇 3:07pm Julie: hiya Ken!
	🦇 3:07pm chris in the redwoods: Carrie <3 Also, hi Julie, and Darkside Knights.
	🦇 3:07pm Julie: hiya Chris!
	🦇 3:08pm Phillippe: Hey all
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: Carrie's daughter's post today www.instagram.com...
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: hiya Phillippe!
	🦇 3:09pm chris in the redwoods: adorable and heartbreaking.
	3:10pm spodiodi: really cute
	3:10pm David (in London): Handy, Spod, Phillippe, Ken, chris, greetings all.
	🦇 3:11pm Handy Haversack: David, spodi, James, Chris, Phillippe, Ken! Important safety tip: Lando's not a system. He's a man.
	3:11pm spodiodi: hola, KenFHP, chris in the redwoods and Phillippe!
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: I want a whole Donald Glover Lando movie
	3:12pm spodiodi: if i had to choose between that and a Billy Dee movie, i'm afraid (sorry, Donald -- i love your lando, but Billy Dee!!!)
	🦇 3:13pm Julie: I'd enjoy that too but I was thinking about another prequel
	3:13pm spodiodi: ... afraid i'd choose the Billy Dee version
	🦇 3:13pm chris in the redwoods: cheers, David, Handy, and spodi. i'd watch that, Julie!
	3:14pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Hello Chris, David, Handy, James, Julie, Ken, spodiodi!
	🦇 3:14pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey there, David / Handy / spodi! / various clones & droids! 🖖🖖🖖🖖
	🦇 3:14pm Julie: hiya Cha Cha!
	3:14pm spodiodi: hadn't considered how aging actors would figure into my idea, Julie :-B you make a great point
	3:15pm spodiodi: hi Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:15pm Phillippe: hey spodi, handy, David, Chris, ken, et al
	🦇 3:15pm xtrakrispy: So this is where all the cool kids are...
	🦇 3:15pm Handy Haversack: Billy Dee forever. Never saw the Solo movie. I found the new SW movies so disjointed and insulting to my narrative sense that I bailed entirely a few movies back.
	🦇 3:15pm chris in the redwoods: hiya, Cha Cha, Ken, and Phillippe.
	🦇 3:15pm Julie: I hope so xtra! We're a small but lively group.. welcome!
	🦇 3:17pm Julie: The only thing I remember about Solo was Glover. Rogue One movie was fun though, love Felicity Jones
	3:17pm Andres: Good afternoon, Julie and humanoids! “If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will...” Also, Billy Dee Williams +1. Lastly, sounding great!
	🦇 3:17pm Julie: Hiya Andres! Thank you!
	3:18pm spodiodi: handy, if for no other reason, you need to watch it for the L3-37 (holy crap i love her) played by the Fleabag actress www.indiewire.com... (so funny)
	3:18pm David (in London): Handy, that's a charitable assessment in my book. They made me want to gouge my own eyes out. (Rogue One excepted, Julie). And hey, why not take an actor of the stature of Max von Sydow and use him for about three minutes? Grrrr. Cha Cha, xtrakrispy, salutations!
	3:20pm David (in London): Hurrah! Daevid Allen arrives to make the world instantly better!
	🦇 3:20pm Bas NL: Hi Julie! Hi crew!
	🦇 3:20pm Julie: I had no idea that was her! I didn't watch Fleabag till later.
	🦇 3:20pm Julie: hiya Bas! Just discovering Daevid this reminds me of Kevin Ayers
	3:21pm Andres: I think Rogue One is in the top three SW movies. I’ve upset a few people saying that. I stand by it.
	3:21pm spodiodi: and K-2SO makes Rogue One more than worth watching as well (imho)
	🦇 3:21pm Bas NL: Nice track!
	3:22pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Every now and then I have a Vinyl Warm-Up Hour, so a few hours before this show, with me playing vinyls from my personal collection by artists played here. Turns out I broke the rules today by playing The Associates! But, you can always make good my mistake by playing them someday Julie ;)
	3:22pm spodiodi: aloha, xtracrispy, Andres and Bas!
	🦇 3:23pm Julie: I will hunt them down, thanks Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:23pm Bas NL: Hi spodi!
	3:23pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Boohoo, never saw Gong while Daevid Allen was still alive but I did manage to catch University of Errors on a ship moored in Bremen (namely M/S Treue), ummm 2010?
	🦇 3:25pm Handy Haversack: Bas, xtrakrispy, Cha Cha, Andres: hello!
	3:25pm Andres: Hey, spodiodi! Yes, K-2SO among the great characters.
	🦇 3:25pm Julie: a concert on a ship that sounds so fun
	🦇 3:26pm Bas NL: Hi Handy!
	🦇 3:26pm chris in the redwoods: haha, movies v books time for a sec. my last experience was with the movie Savages. after reading the Don Winslow novel and hearing he would be involved with the making of the movie, i was stoked. went to see it as soon as it came out. became increasingly incensed that the characters were not portrayed well. and near the end of the movie, in the denement of the bloody story, they just went a completely different direction. i actually exclaimed loudly, "you've got to be fucking kidding me."... time passes, the movie is released to streaming. i decide to watch it again just to make sure. this is how good the book is. what a great story. same thing happens. long story, short... i try not to watch movies of books i love.
	3:26pm Andres: Hey, Handy! Currently pondering a walk with my Darth Vader mask.
	🦇 3:27pm Julie: I think it's rare I see the movie after, it's usually the other way around.
	🦇 3:28pm Julie: I tried to read the Game of Thrones books but barely made it through the first
	3:29pm David (in London): A friend of mine told me about the guy who promoted Daevid Allen in the UK years ago taking him to a rave in Liverpool in the early 1990s to give him a flavour of the 'modern psychedelic culture'. It was packed, and when he turned his back to talk to someone, he looked back and Allen was gone. Then he noticed the entire club turning to face the same direction, and Allen had clambered up on top of this podium thing and was 'conducting' the whole club, hundreds of MDMA-enhanced ravers. They didn't know who he was, but they recognised a psychedelic leader when they saw one.
	🦇 3:29pm Handy Haversack: I'm glad you bailed that early, Julie! I think I read three before I finally asked myself what the hell was wrong with me. I wish I'd bailed on the show after three years, too, once it came along.
	3:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:23 Julie: you might like them! Very theathrical stuff (Klaus Nomi & Sparks come to mind), that Associates' 1982 album 'Sulk' which I have. A very odd (ignoring the original chord changes quite a bit) of 'Gloomy Sunday'. Didn't remember one-time Cure bass player Michael Dempsey is on that album, and did not know John Murphy is there too (his CV was/is a bit of a who's who of "certain type of music" SPK, Whitehouse, Death In June etc.)
	🦇 3:30pm chris in the redwoods: that's the smart move, i think, Julie. and yeah, i couldn't get into GoT book 1, either. great story, David. wowza.
	🦇 3:31pm Bas NL: I used to visit concerts on the MS Stubnitz while moored in Amsterdam harbor. Fantastic place. And old East-German fishery vessel with a stage in the freezer. (That was basically everything below deck). Great 'dead' acoustics as no walls were straight. Seen there: Rapoon, Circle, Faust.. many more.
	🦇 3:31pm listener james from westwood: I thought that first bird peep was my smoke alarm battery!
	🦇 3:32pm B R M: Late! Sorry! Hi!
	🦇 3:32pm chris in the redwoods: ah man, Bas, what a venue!
	3:34pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:31 Bas NL: I know it is quite a legendary venue, wherever it has been, sadly I was there only once, also in Bremen.
	🦇 3:35pm Ken From Hyde Park: That sounds pretty good, Bas, assuming it didn't reek of fish!
	🦇 3:35pm Julie: wow that sounds fun Bas
	3:37pm spodiodi: haven't read the GoT books, but have seen it all more than once (or twice). i thought it was a whole lot of fun (for multiple reasons.) better half is more a fan than myself, and has read the books. she's also infromed me recently of new GoT work that's happening now (prequel-type things. sawr a production still) we got to see it's opening (US showing) of it's season premiere one year at the SF Opera House. also a lot of fun.
	🦇 3:38pm Julie: Spodi Meghan & I went to a season premiere it Lincoln Center. They had a dragon where the fountain is. Pretty fun
	🦇 3:38pm Bas NL: No fishy smell at all, luckily. Drowned out by smell of large bottles of strong East-German beer. When Faust was on stage Zappi Diermaier, the drummer, went nuts playing all the piping and steel of the ship. I'll never forget that night.
	3:39pm spodiodi: cool, Julie!
	3:39pm luka: "Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell"??? must be tuesday!
	🦇 3:39pm Julie: haha hiya luka!
	3:39pm luka: hi Julie ^_^
	🦇 3:41pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Hey, hej, hay!
	🦇 3:41pm Julie: hiya Rich!
	3:43pm sufferwords: Scientology goth?
	🦇 3:44pm Julie: She's more punk but yeah afraid so
	🦇 3:44pm Julie: I wonder if I could do a whole set of scientologists... the only other one I can think of is Beck
	3:44pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:38 Bas NL: The only time I saw Faust was in 2008 in London when they suddenly sawed an air conditioning pipe in half, so thanks to the sudden burst of ventilation there was metal dust everywhere. I mean, thank God they did not dismantle or burn down the M/S Stubnitz or something.
	3:45pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:44 Julie: also Incredible String Band had a Scientology phase from 1969 onwards.
	🦇 3:46pm Julie: and apparently whoever famous blue raincoat was written about
	🦇 3:46pm Julie: I would buy an album by someone called Metal Dust
	🦇 3:47pm Handy Haversack: We're sure "Famous Blue Raincoat" isn't about Beck?
	3:47pm HyperDose: There's a guy named Fred Durst who sings on a few albums. He's pretty mellow for a dude from Florida.
	🦇 3:47pm Julie: hiya Hyper!
	🦇 3:47pm Rich in Bay Ridge: L. Ron Hubbard was a Mellotron enthusiast, i believe
	🦇 3:48pm Julie: well he can't be ALL bad I guess
	3:48pm Stanley: Hi Julie Photo2000: some friends of mine were caught up with that ISB Scientology business back then. They got out a few years later.
	3:48pm Rich in Washington: Fred Durst wrote and directed a terrible movie called The Fanatic and it's got John Travolta's best/worst performance.
	3:49pm spodiodi: was reading about that, Rich. too much
	🦇 3:49pm Bas NL: @PCC2000: Ha! Would have loved to have been there! :) The Stubnitz is no longer allowed in Amsterdam.. fire hazard! One is pretty much tinned up in the hold, with a single staircase through a top cover. I thought it just made for a very intimate feel. (Like sardines in a can..)
	🦇 3:49pm Rich in Bay Ridge: www.planetmellotron.com...
	🦇 3:49pm Julie: hiya Stanley! my old BF worked around them for years, would not give into their appeals to "join" and eventually left
	3:50pm David (in London): When I saw Faust in the mid 1990s, they started the gig in complete darkness, before turning on some massive air-blowing fans and emptying bags of wet leaves in front of them, turning the place into a maelstrom of madness. I got a massive wet horse-chestnut leaf in the face and it was like being attacked by the face-hugger in Alien. By the time the lights came up, the audience were in absolute disarray.
	3:50pm HyperDose: Hey Julie! @Rich Must have been after he directed that Puddle of Mudd video at that dive bar and thought he was Scorsese
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: I hear so much about Faust, which album do I need to check out?
	3:50pm spodiodi: i recently read an interview with Beck where he clarified the whole scientology thing (he's not one)
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: in my brain, they are a Fabio band
	🦇 3:51pm Julie: good to know, spodi
	3:51pm Stanley: Julie - dive into with The Faust Tapes. Did it for me.
	3:51pm Rich in Washington: The lowest point of The Fanatic is when the main antagonist of the film says to another character - while turning on his car radio "Limp Bizkit! I LOVE these guys!" and we have to hear a bunch of it.
	🦇 3:52pm Julie: two sides with no title?
	3:52pm spodiodi: www.smh.com.au... i was relieved (i've been a fan, but never liked that (i thought) he was one of Them)
	3:52pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:50 Julie: what Stanley said - if it still was the 1970s, Faust Tapes would be a cheap option, costing you all of £0.49. Plus it is a good collage of their madness and music.
	🦇 3:53pm Bas NL: Yeah, they are psychedelic/experimental. Very much Fabio's taste i think. Faust So Far and indeed The Faust Tapes..
	🦇 3:53pm Julie: yeah So Far is where I'm leaning, it's got titles LOL
	3:54pm Stanley: Haha - yep!
	3:54pm Andres: “Misleading Colors”. So, colour blind?
	🦇 3:54pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Faust played Monty in 2016? Anybody go to that?
	3:55pm David (in London): Bas, yeah, I'd probably recommend So Far as the place to start, too. But all Faust is good Faust.
	🦇 3:56pm Bas NL: I'm a bit biased though.. I got a copy of So Far signed with a personal message by Jean-Hervé Péron.
	3:57pm northguineahills: Thought I heard Belly in there! Remember when Tanya Donelly was a Gap model? (then again, so was Dj Spooky (Paul Miller)).
	🦇 3:57pm Julie: hiys NGH!
	3:58pm northguineahills: I used to get the Gods and the Godz mixed up in the record stores.....
	🦇 3:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: I was just looking up Faust on FMA. There are also recordings from a 2009 show (not in Monty per se). - www.freemusicarchive.org...
	3:59pm northguineahills: Then there was the time I bought Spring Heeled Jack (the ska band), instead of Sping Heel Jack (the drum & bass group).
	3:59pm spodiodi: love this Wendy James, Julie! (new to me. wish i'd heard it sooner)
	🦇 3:59pm Julie: I once bought a CD of some band called The Wicker Man
	🦇 4:00pm Bas NL: Ooww nice! Thanks for that, KenfHP.
	🦇 4:00pm Julie: oh spodi this whole album is good!
	4:02pm Mark R: Interesting spelling of "psych." Chick Corea was a scientologist but somehow I don't see you playing 70s fusion jazz.
	🦇 4:03pm Julie: haha you never know! Hiya Mark!
	🦇 4:03pm Julie: Isaac Hayes too, yeah?
	4:03pm spodiodi: thanks, Julie! i'll have to poke around later and give it a listen
	🦇 4:04pm Julie: I know so many people who write "Sike!" when they mean "Psych!" and it drives me nuts
	4:05pm Stanley: Drives me knuts!
	4:05pm David (in London): The legendary Bam Caruso label pretty much started it with the Pop Sike Pipe Dreams album in '87. They (well Phil Smee anyway) coined the term Freakbeat, too.
	🦇 4:08pm Handy Haversack: The force that through the green knuts sikes the flour ...
	4:08pm spodiodi: i'm lucky i don't Julie (would drive me nuts as well)
	4:13pm spodiodi: GBV/Pollard
	🦇 4:13pm listener james from westwood: Jandek Pinkett-Smith?
	🦇 4:14pm Julie: now THAT sounds like a good project, James! I like her too, I wanted to like her band but nah
	4:14pm spodiodi: late greetings to Stanley, ngh, Rich from Washington, Rich from Bay Ridge, HyperDose, Mark R, and anyone else lucky enough to have sneaked by me
	4:14pm spodiodi: DM FTW
	🦇 4:15pm listener james from westwood: As they say in Chicago: "Da Peche!"
	4:15pm northguineahills: Well, considering, Merzbow, has put out 513 albums since 1981....
	🦇 4:15pm Bas NL: First name i had in mind too @ngh!
	4:16pm David (in London): Ah, Basildon's finest. Love this.
	🦇 4:16pm Julie: yikes! And I don't have a single one of them. LPD has a ton of stuff
	4:17pm Richy4619: whole lotta Riches up in here. maybe i should change the handle. hmm...
	🦇 4:17pm Julie: hiya Richy!
	4:17pm HyperDose: Thanks for giving me a new movie to hate watch, Rich! A late hello to you too spodiodi!
	4:17pm spodiodi: all the philly girls i knew too, james hi Richy!
	4:17pm Stanley: Hi Spodi
	🦇 4:18pm listener james from westwood: Alternate future in which DM went a Nitzer Ebb or Ministry direction from this point.
	4:18pm David (in London): Hey HyperDose.
	4:19pm Richy4619: heya Julie, hiya Spod! \\ //
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: is that the spock hand or devil horns?
	4:21pm spodiodi: Julie, your most excellent radio programme makes it very difficult to get anything (unimportant) done! \\// Vulcan all the way, Julie (per Handy, TDK60 and chresti)
	4:21pm spodiodi: \m/ <--- horns
	4:21pm Richy4619: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
	4:22pm spodiodi: ~( 8^ ( \|)
	🦇 4:22pm Julie: last week I cleaned during my show LOL. Glad that's over.
	🦇 4:22pm Handy Haversack: Ha, I thought (because I know nothing) that \m/ was throwing hands in the air (with the implication of just not caring)!
	4:23pm spodiodi: lol, Handy
	🦇 4:23pm listener james from westwood: In the mid-90s my friend group used (/\) for Mister Burns steepling his fingers and saying, "Eeeeexcellent."
	4:23pm spodiodi: \m/ >< \m/
	🦇 4:23pm Julie: oh nice
	🦇 4:24pm Julie: spodi is there a cat in there?
	4:24pm Richy4619: $‾▿‾$ (/‾▿‾)/
	🦇 4:24pm Handy Haversack: Do you do it in italics for "hang loose"?
	🦇 4:25pm Julie: I love how ascii art lives on
	4:25pm spodiodi: cleaning sounds almost as fun as shaving ( i wouldn't know too much about the cleaning thing, but i did shave yesterday(!)) -- i'm accepting achievement awards and large US bills
	🦇 4:26pm chris in the redwoods: spodi @ 4:22 - Bender? nice!
	🦇 4:26pm Julie: is that Bender? Bender is the best
	4:27pm spodiodi: Julie, a cat? not sure if you're referring to Homer ~( 8^ ( \|) or the squinty tho-handed horns guy \m/ >< \m/
	🦇 4:27pm Handy Haversack: Oooo, Christian Death, nice. /\m//. Hmm, indicating italics with slashes doesn't really work here.
	4:27pm northguineahills: @spodi: Bite my shiny metal ass! (Bender).
	🦇 4:27pm Julie: oh Homer...yeah the handed horns the >< is like whiskers
	🦇 4:28pm Julie: homer and bender do have the same basic head shape
	4:28pm spodiodi: bite my shiny metal ass. it's homer. i love bender too. hav a nice die-cast bender mzSpodi bought me 1k years ago
	4:28pm David (in London): Bender is role model for us all.
	🦇 4:29pm Handy Haversack: Or 1k years from now!
	4:29pm spodiodi: >< <-- i see that, Julie X<8 )~~~ rat
	🦇 4:29pm chris in the redwoods: i can see Homer, but my brain wants to keep seeing Bender.
	4:30pm northguineahills: considering the original animator of both....
	4:30pm spodiodi: @@@ 8^ ) Marge is never far away
	🦇 4:30pm Julie: the little curl at the top makes it homer
	4:30pm Stanley: France meets Brazil in this nice little piece
	🦇 4:30pm Bas NL: Homer + Bender = Matt Groening
	4:32pm spodiodi: fish + lightbulb = Fishbulb = Homer
	4:33pm northguineahills: 0--( 8 ( \|) would be Bender
	🦇 4:33pm Bas NL: It all adds up... conspiracy!
	4:34pm spodiodi: Handy, your italics to achieve hang loose has had me chuckling :)
	4:34pm northguineahills: My partner got Wendel figurine (Simpsons) for herself one year (and I thought I was weird).
	🦇 4:37pm chris in the redwoods: thanks, ngh @ 4:33, i can stop obsessing now. :)
	🦇 4:37pm Julie: oh that's good
	4:37pm spodiodi: i had to use the interknut to determine who he is, ngh shrugs i like some weird stuff myself. can't say anything
	4:38pm WR: NGH! Bender! 0--( 8 ( \|) Homer Simpson? ~( 8 ( \|)
	🦇 4:39pm Handy Haversack: We'll let the typesetter work it out, spodi! Also: welp, there's your answer, fishbulb.
	4:39pm spodiodi: ¦̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱(̢ ̡͇̅└͇̅┘͇̅ (▤8כ−◦
	4:40pm Richy4619: Ascii roolz. Emojis drool.
	🦇 4:42pm Handy Haversack: There is no emoticon for what I'm feeling! But is there a word in Klingon for loneliness?
	🦇 4:42pm Julie: a warrior doesn't get lonely
	🦇 4:43pm ~( 8 ( \|): D'oh!
	🦇 4:43pm Julie: HAHA
	4:43pm Richy4619: Although, apparently there's an open form to submit emoji proposals via Unicode's website home.unicode.org...
	🦇 4:43pm Handy Haversack: Sigh ... GAR-DOCH ... sigh ...
	4:44pm northguineahills: I don't have the ascii tableu for that w/o digging....
	4:46pm northguineahills: I have so many albums w/ tarot cards on the cover, but not that one.....
	🦇 4:46pm Handy Haversack: Oh, and David, I affixed a bunch of customs labels to swag packages bound for over the water, but yours wasn't among them. I would totally have added a note on the envelope.
	4:46pm spodiodi: best DM song = Blue Dress
	🦇 4:49pm listener james from westwood: Yay for more Julie and Charlie! Thanks also for the reminder on Charlie's last fill-in—I was FaceTiming during the bulk of it, so I want to have a good dedicated listen. (And I see he started that one with June Christy's "This Is My Theme," which I ADORE, so good lis'nin' ahead!)
	🦇 4:49pm Bas NL: Just count your clicky stars.. :)
	4:49pm northguineahills: @Julie: I'm going to miss the birds when you go back to the mothership.... (i actually know some of their names).
	4:50pm David (in London): Handy, oh well, never mind. You'll just have to send the Extreme Pringles separately.
	4:50pm bigplanetnoise: Hey Juuuuuulie!
	4:50pm spodiodi: what ngh said -- to Julie's birds!
	🦇 4:51pm Handy Haversack: No customs form could stop them!
	🦇 4:51pm Julie: hiya planet man! Well, there's no plans to go back to the mothership yet, only the main studio is cleared for use so far, so worry not.
	4:51pm David (in London): You could record the birds Julie, and use them as your bed sounds when back in the studio, a la Trouble.
	🦇 4:51pm Julie: extreme pringles??
	4:52pm miles of middle texas: Hey Julie and all. Tusk!!
	🦇 4:52pm Julie: howdy Miles! Hot down there yet?
	4:52pm northguineahills: Tusk (my favorite Fleetwood album, which says a lot)!
	4:54pm miles of middle texas: 90fing degrees yesterday
	4:54pm northguineahills: what David said, or you can leave a mic on in your pad and feed it to the studio during the mic breaks for the bed.
	4:55pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: The title track off my favorite BuckNicks-lineup Fleetwood Mac album only to be followed by my favorite Anita Lane track. Life is good.
	4:56pm northguineahills: @Miles: a nice humid 93F/33C right now here in Orlando.
	🦇 4:56pm Julie: We lost Anita last week : (
	4:57pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @4:56 Julie: yes, it was weird when people were wondering last tuesday what's Nick Cave up to, and the answer probably was: grieving.
	4:57pm northguineahills: I've never heard Anita Lane before, but am familiar w/ the album cover from crate digging.
	🦇 4:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oof AnitaLane - I'll always think of listening to her in a CD store I worked @ & just blushing somehow. I can't remember anyone else doing that. NickCave eulogized her as smarter & more talented than any of them.
	🦇 4:58pm Julie: The news came out after we talked about him I think
	4:59pm Marie: Hi Jule, hi everybody, really enjoying the show (super busy at work so I can't really add much to the board). I think a lot of us are still suffering the effects of a year of almost total shutdown and a lot of things are still shut. It's not like everything is hunky dory again
	🦇 4:59pm Julie: I had the cd of Dirty Pearl for years had no idea of the Cave connection. Hiya Marie!! yes, this is true.
	4:59pm Marie: I'm sick of my routine
	🦇 5:00pm Julie: hopefully you can change things up soon. Right now it feels a massive effort to put on clothes and leave the apartment! Like even more than usual.
	5:01pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @4:57 northguineahills: A CD of Dirty Pearl is where you should head to in case you are interested. It's got Dirty Sings in its entirety along with the original album Dirty Pearl, which is basically a compilation of music she was involved with 1993- 82 (yes, in reversed chronological order)
	5:01pm spodiodi: hear, hear, Marie!
	5:03pm Stanley: Oooh, liking this Abecedarians
	🦇 5:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pandemic has been various stages of bizarre & impactful obviously - but I'm also pissed off @ how much 'Normal' everyone wants to return to ! Fact is - I really don't !...
	5:03pm northguineahills: Well, after 5 months, I, got my unemployment extended, now I have to wait for a check (to my bro).
	🦇 5:03pm Julie: the Groovy Guru is a fun track on Dirty Pearl
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: Hiya Rev! Yeah same! I don't think I can handle a NYC size crowd again.
	5:04pm spodiodi: hear, hear, RRN63!
	5:04pm northguineahills: My records are strictly in abecedarian order (don't have the Abecedarians, thought).
	🦇 5:04pm Handy Haversack: I think someone played it over this past week, Julie? Unless I'm now just making up WFMU memories since it's my entire social life?
	5:04pm Marie: Hi Spodi. @)
	🦇 5:05pm Julie: @Handy it's quite likely.
	5:05pm Marie: I totally agree with you RR63
	5:07pm northguineahills: I have a friend who wants me to move back the Brooklyn, when she moves back after next month. To be fair, I haven't interacted w/ anyone here in the last 13.5 months, and the job situation is no better, and the hotel is more then what I paying in the Bushwick.
	🦇 5:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Already that Syd eccentricity & unmistakable Gittar...
	🦇 5:07pm Handy Haversack: Too nice to go inside. I think I'll make another drink and bring the cutting board out here to chop some things for dinner. I have been blanking out -- just listening and staring at the birds. Total brain shutdown. I think I've been trying to use it harder than the factory specs suggest.
	🦇 5:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...kind of a big deal to have unfamiliar Syd here !!
	🦇 5:09pm Julie: I'm so mad this was released in such a limited version. I'm happy I have digital but man I would love a copy.
	5:09pm northguineahills: Eureka (abecedarians) was originally released in 1986.
	5:11pm spodiodi: been in self-imposed quarantine since 2006. having extra company since the plague's onset has been nice (and it bums me out that it's disappearing) dumb it out, Handy!
	🦇 5:11pm Julie: that song is only on the reissue though
	5:13pm Marie: I hope you start feeling better soon, Julie. @) (and everyone else too)
	🦇 5:15pm Julie: back at ya, Marie.
	5:15pm coelacanth∅: greetings Julie and all
	🦇 5:16pm Julie: hey there coela!
	🦇 5:17pm Julie: which one of you guys is the editor?
	🦇 5:19pm listener james from westwood: <— Copy editor, if that counts.
	🦇 5:20pm Julie: yes it does... I may need your help with some radio-related content soon James
	5:21pm headcleaner: tingles up and down my spine, this song brings
	🦇 5:21pm listener james from westwood: Interesting . . . do let me know as details jell!
	5:22pm Richy4619: ya, this Forum track is a proper jammer
	🦇 5:22pm Handy Haversack: Here, too, Julie, if you have enough you need to share it out.
	5:23pm Andres: Soviet Wave!
	🦇 5:23pm Julie: thanks Handy! Just redoing my show description and could use some extra eyes
	🦇 5:30pm Handy Haversack: More eyes always good! I guess it's a good sign I've already cut myself twice with this new knife? I declare the meal still vegetarian since I gave consent.
	5:30pm sim: Oh! Abecedarians! I thought it was Amy Sedaris. NM
	🦇 5:31pm chris in the redwoods: hi, coel! employ the claw method, Handy!
	🦇 5:32pm Julie: funny, Sim! do I need to send an email about tomorrow's fill-in, Cha Cha?
	🦇 5:32pm Julie: OUCH handy
	🦇 5:33pm chris in the redwoods: primo Elton, this.
	5:33pm spodiodi: eating one's self is still considered vegan as far as i'm concerned
	5:34pm HyperDose: @Handy A few drops of blood add a nice umami flavor to the dish. A wise choice!
	🦇 5:34pm Julie: I just love nascent Elton
	5:34pm spodiodi: aloha, coelacanth∅
	5:35pm TDK60: Hi Julie.
	🦇 5:35pm Julie: hiya TDK!
	5:35pm David (in London): Just don't let those Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell find out about it Handy, or you won't get a moment's peace. Hey Coela, TDK.
	🦇 5:36pm Julie: nice callback, david!
	5:36pm TDK60: Hi David. \|\| Embarrassed to admit, as a Jefferson Airplane sympathizer, I never heard this Grace solo LP!
	5:37pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:32 Julie: no, it's OK, tomorrow's fill-in noted. Should I forget, nobody's fault but mine.
	5:38pm coelacanth∅: hey chris!
	🦇 5:39pm Julie: WFMU has definitely expanded my JA collection, including things like this and that one album she did with Kantner
	5:39pm coelacanth∅: hey spodi, David!
	🦇 5:39pm Handy Haversack: Yo, coela, TDK60!
	🦇 5:40pm Julie: \\// is that right?
	5:40pm coelacanth∅: howdy Handy!
	5:40pm TDK60: Handy. Holding forth, east of estuary?
	🦇 5:40pm Bas NL: Careful Handy.. You'll become a autophagitarian in no time.
	5:40pm spodiodi: Thee, TDK60 \\//
	5:41pm TDK60: \\ // Spodiodi. How is the lower peninsula?
	5:41pm coelacanth∅: - or a mishapitarian?
	🦇 5:43pm Handy Haversack: I'm sure the serrano and Dubonnet will sterilize it. Basking, TDK60!
	5:44pm TDK60: Julie, I thought of a group you might like, I don't think you've played. Do I tell you here in front of the teeming masses, or via the proper inside channels?
	🦇 5:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ah Gracie. Nothing like that ♏︎Scorpio gaze ! ...Yeah Handy you might wanna add garlic against vampires. Sharks I'm not sure about... Ah Julie. It's good to 'be hear'.
	5:45pm spodiodi: TDK60, good -- warm, sunny, with Julie's show keeping my head in place. how are things in NYC?
	🦇 5:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...damn I love Nico. Just do...
	🦇 5:46pm chris in the redwoods: as my dad delivered the sharpened knives to the kitchen, he would include a new supply of band-aids. :)
	🦇 5:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& Vitamin E...
	🦇 5:46pm Julie: TDK you can tell me here!
	5:47pm northguineahills: @Handy: I can't count how many times I got my blood into my food (literally have a bloody tissue here, and I have nothing sharp here, blood barely clots). but, since I like Mexican blood pudding, not much of a change.
	5:47pm TDK60: NYC, sunny, mild, a bit too hazy for my tastes. \|\| Oh Julie. it was the '80s-'90s UK band, Kitchens of Distinction. I think they'd fit in fine here.
	🦇 5:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hell - why not get as much back inside as you can...
	🦇 5:48pm Julie: oh yes I think I have one of theirs somewhere
	5:50pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Full support for playing something from Kitchens of Distinction.
	🦇 5:53pm Julie: inside is where it's at... apparently Handy is some kinda sun worshipper
	5:55pm spodiodi: i hear ya, Julie -- it's nice out, but my blinds are mostly all closed
	5:55pm headcleaner: they don't make 'em like this anymore
	🦇 5:55pm Julie: hiya headcleaner!
	🦇 5:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...one thing it screams is definitely 1983...
	5:57pm Tome: Great show Julie nice to be here !<>! and May the 4th be with you too always !<>!
	🦇 5:58pm Handy Haversack: Julie, I hope that Strange Stars, the book, proved useful in finding some Star Wars music?
	5:59pm northguineahills: The Bordens, not to be confused w/ The Boredoms.
	5:59pm northguineahills: wasn't Borden a milk brand in the South?
	🦇 6:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh yeah - distinctive cow head.
	6:01pm TDK60: Hola NGH. I recall the Borden milk brand but not if it was only in one region.
	🦇 6:01pm Julie: Man I didn't even think to use it, duh me! I thought Borden milk was all over
	🦇 6:01pm Julie: hi Tome!
	🦇 6:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I remember ...Borden dehydrated milk powder packets ?? Awful stuff...
	🦇 6:03pm Julie: there were also cans of condensed milk, whatever the hell that was
	6:03pm northguineahills: Well, I only drank milk when I was really little before moving to Japan, so, I only remember it from WV/VA/FL.
	🦇 6:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah I was never in the South !
	6:05pm David (in London): Gonna hit the hay now. Thanks for a great set, Julie. Later groovers.
	🦇 6:05pm Julie: nite David! Thanks for stopping in!
	6:05pm northguineahills: first guitar chord, I immediately recognized Dean Wareham's work.
	6:07pm northguineahills: I have a pic w/ Dean when I was 19 after seeing Luna at a small club....(I looked goofy).
	🦇 6:07pm chris in the redwoods: c-ya, David.
	🦇 6:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ah-ha ! Connection to Elmer's Glue : en.wikipedia.org... ...also the cow head...
	6:07pm spodiodi: adios, David (in London)!
	🦇 6:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Night DiL.
	🦇 6:08pm Julie: the voice of bart is a scientologist! www.billboard.com...
	6:09pm TDK60: G'night David.
	6:12pm headcleaner: maybe she can do the audiobook for _Battlefield Earth_
	🦇 6:13pm chris in the redwoods: Chaka too??? say it aint so, billboard!
	🦇 6:14pm chris in the redwoods: whew, at least she denies it. :D
	🦇 6:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Control Your Reactive Mind / Don't have a cow man...
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: hahaha
	🦇 6:14pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I have that Telescopes CD and haven't listened to it in years. Decades? It was in heavy rotation in my car CD player for a couple of years. Now I'm going to have to find it. I think it was a promo in a cardboard sleeve.
	6:14pm luka: a great Alice song
	6:15pm K-2SO: Alice <3
	🦇 6:15pm Julie: I can't get over his look there!
	6:15pm northguineahills: @Rev Rabbit: thought they had the same logo. (wait Elmer's is a food product?).
	🦇 6:15pm Julie: hi K-2S0 are you a clone?
	6:15pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: For an album that uses plenty of that 'funky drummer' beat (like so many UK bands at the time) that 1992 Telescopes album is rather QUIET.
	🦇 6:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Elsie the cow !
	6:16pm coelacanth∅: gnight David
	🦇 6:16pm chris in the redwoods: a clone with great taste in music...
	6:16pm coelacanth∅: borden cow head highly visible in nj and ny when i was little
	6:16pm K-2SO: Julie, "Did You Know That Wasn't Me?"
	🦇 6:18pm Handy Haversack: OK, I know this song is mentioned in Strange Stars!
	🦇 6:18pm Julie: sorry, no K-2SO I doubt I'd have played Brandi anyway even if Elton does love her
	🦇 6:19pm Julie: this is on a coldwave comp I have, how weird is that?
	6:19pm K-2SO: ngh, a couple of weeks back, i was checking to see if Elmer's glue was "still made" with animal parts, whne i was confronted with "Elmer's does not currently use animals or animal parts to make glue. Its glue adhesive products are made from synthetic materials and are not derived from processing horses, cows, or any other animals, or milk." from it's wikipedia entry
	🦇 6:20pm Julie: no hooves huh
	🦇 6:20pm Julie: vegan glue, drink or sniff away!
	6:20pm K-2SO: nope. not so for Jello, still, "sadly"
	6:21pm K-2SO: mucilage <-- yech
	🦇 6:21pm Julie: wow that is surprising still hooves in jello
	6:24pm Tome: Love it !<>! !<>! PeW !<>! PeW !<>!
	6:25pm K-2SO: yes Julie, there exists vegan marshmallows (traditionally also made using gelatin)... i wonder why whatever they've used to achieve the marshmallows hasn't been used to create animal-free Jello more silly Star Wars music ! :) (where do you find some of this stuff?)
	6:25pm headcleaner: silly yes, but how fun and bouncy tech-oriented music used to be back then (as technology itself was viewed, by and large) - today, not so much
	🦇 6:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Most likely pigskin says here : recipes.howstuffworks.com...
	6:25pm northguineahills: @K-250: So I can still keep sniffing glue? (not a vegan).
	6:26pm K-2SO: exist* yes, ngh. ii'll allow it. and recommend using Testors
	🦇 6:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo birdies !
	6:27pm Tome: the stuff they have now much of it they had some 35 40years ago, when you only have "8Bits" to work with still amazin what you can do it need be !
	6:27pm K-2SO: hi Cannibal! (do you ever let him listen to ARB's show?)
	🦇 6:28pm listener james from westwood: Aw yiss Ghost Cop
	🦇 6:28pm Julie: they might wanna make stew out of him!
	6:28pm northguineahills: Cannibal! I once let my partner eat a dish w/ a meat product at a restaurant (not apparent), b/c I was tired and just wanted to go home, and didn't want her to reorder.. I'm a horrible person.
	🦇 6:29pm Julie: awww
	🦇 6:29pm Rich in Bay Ridge: My first job out of college was at a sugar company, and I was surprised that cattle "bone char" was one of the biggest expenses in refining white sugar. Many refineries modernized to a vegan-friendly process that does not involve cattle bones, but it's still commonly used.
	🦇 6:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...relieved not so StarWars specific: I'm down w/ SciFi ! ngh - I'll pretend I didn't read that...
	6:30pm coelacanth∅: so if you hear of a horse being sent to the glue factory, and it's Elmer's factory, you may rest assured it's going there for an animal compassion awareness meeting.
	🦇 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Rich - so Jell-o might get an animal two-fer there !
	🦇 6:31pm Julie: wow Rich, had no idea!
	6:31pm northguineahills: @Rev Rabbit: I didn't realize it until she started eating it, and my brain was shot after working an 80 hour week, I was just happy to eat.
	🦇 6:32pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I was working there when the Williamsburg refinery converted to non-char carbonatation....well, they ain't making sugar there anymore.
	6:32pm northguineahills: (I knew the ingredients of the dish, even though she asked for a vegan option beforehand).
	🦇 6:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& some fish product used in processing Guinness ! I'm like AWW ! ...But I think they're trying to change... ngh I recognize your human weakness there... It's kind of on the veggie / vegan ...Ideally there would be a big flashing sign : Veggie Soup ...with CHICKIN STOCK - but I'm afraid not...
	6:34pm coelacanth∅: yup - all the pretend vegans out there (which is just about all those who call themselves vegan) are consuming animal ingredients daily...along with all the other things they do that make them not vegan
	🦇 6:36pm Julie: what about my vegetarian friends who eat chicken? I have far too many of those. Just say you don't eat red meat, it's okay!
	🦇 6:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& - I love leather... not like I'm some major purchaser of it - I've got a lot of stuff from 2nd hand shops (I werked @ one long time) - but I wear it...
	6:36pm coelacanth∅: soup with chicken stock is not vegetarian. there's no grey area.
	6:36pm coelacanth∅: Julie they are liars!
	6:37pm K-2SO: vegetarians do not eat animals or animal products, nor vegans.
	🦇 6:37pm Julie: I know that and you know that but someone needs to tell them that.
	🦇 6:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Chicken is not a vegetable. & they're raised most often hideously. Neither are the eggs & dairy I consume - but I'm explicit about that...
	6:38pm K-2SO: vegetarians don't eat vegans (ok, K-2SpO.)
	6:38pm HyperDose: Jabba is a total slut! Glad someone finally said it. :p
	6:38pm Marie: still diggin' the show--fun! loving the Star Wars hour! (working late, can't wait to sign off)
	🦇 6:39pm chris in the redwoods: goddamn i love this too much. Jabba you Slut!
	6:39pm coelacanth∅: i was a vegetarian before it was fashionable (an actual vegetarian - commonly and incorrectly called "vegan" now) and lots of people would say "but you can still eat chicken though"!
	6:39pm K-2SO: i bet Jabba wears Leia's slave girl getup when no one else is around
	6:39pm Marie: "she's a gastropod"
	🦇 6:39pm Julie: I'm glad you're enjoying it, this was my guilty novelty song purchase
	🦇 6:40pm Julie: oh lord thanks for that image, K
	6:41pm K-2SO: you're most welcome, Julie, and "The Captain Says You're A Friend. I Will Not Kill You."
	6:41pm HyperDose: Pretty sure it defies the laws of the universe for Julie to have a bad show. You know how to make 'em fun and keep us coming back for more!
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: awww thank you, HyperDose means a lot
	6:42pm northguineahills: She will eat honey, now (it's a far as she goes), but used to be a pescadorian when I first met her. There are veggie stocks available. (and boullion cubes that are veggie). I was a veggie for years until grad school, and it was too expensive at Hunter in the Upper East Side. Now, I cook veggie, if an option, but I eat crappy stuff when broke (like now), or I eat meat when it's some dish I've never tried before.
	🦇 6:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I used to say 'less killing still filling' - but the vegans made sure the world knows how awful the egg & dairy industries are... I gave up animals one by one some time ago now. First swine - then cows. I thot - chickens are healthy. Then they told about how they're raised - which is the absolute worst... Ate seafood a good while still - & they shamed me outta that. Started with cholesterol & additive concerns - my own health. Now I feel it's about humanitarianism & such - & was always about environmental impact. That matters...
	🦇 6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...So I do think it's good to have as little impact as possible - but the fact is you literally can't wipe yer butt without impact. So self-righteousness about it is misplaced - not especially helpful... & to intelligently weigh your impact - involves being informed about the facts of it - indeed...
	🦇 6:48pm Julie: I was surprised to find that neither of the three leads ever recorded a song. Kinda surprising Carrie didn't. I didn't mine the xmas special, but I did check discogs and it's all voiceover
	6:48pm K-2SO: hear, hear, RRN63. i have plenty to say about all of it (resisting for the obvious reasons), but yeah.
	6:49pm coelacanth∅: after 7 years of eating no animal flesh (3 of no animal ingredient) i started working a very small amount of fish into my diet for health reasons. i eat it maybe once/week now, and i rationalize it morally by remaining conscious of the fact the animals are not in a living hell their whole lives, awaiting to die, as mammals and birds are.
	🦇 6:49pm Julie: I am so glad you guys know how to use "hear hear" properly. Every time someone types Here Here, I say where? and no one gets the joke.
	🦇 6:49pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I admire anyone who has eliminated animal products from their diet or lifestyle, whatever the motivation. I am not there yet.
	6:49pm headcleaner: It took a few decades for vegan products to catch up with animal-based (especially when it comes to baking - remember how bad vegan desserts used to be?) - but by now you can easily find stuff at par or better than the usual milk/butter substrate, if you know where to look
	6:50pm northguineahills: If you ever driven past an industrial chicken "farm", you know how bad their conditions are. Same w/ industrial pork farms. Beef farms don't seem as bad (unless to go to the Plains), until you see the killing floors cue Troy McClure, "don't worry Billy, it's more of grating then a floor")
	🦇 6:50pm Julie: Me either, Rich, certainly not after becoming very anemic.
	6:51pm northguineahills: Meat products are cheaper then vegan ones. And where I'am at, I can maybe get a salad w/ a 5 km walk for $8.
	🦇 6:52pm Julie: yes, eating healthy is much costlier. Sucks.
	6:53pm northguineahills: Then there's the issue of processed vegan foods are still processed foods. Thanks, Julie!
	6:54pm K-2SO: hahaha the meowing was great XD
	🦇 6:54pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Great show, as freaking always. Loved the bonus hour. See you tomorrow. Thanks Julie.
	6:54pm coelacanth∅: my former housemate calls himself a vegan, despite me several times reminding him he is not! and he's a shithead in many ways but i'll give him this: he never gave anyone shit about eating animal products. he'd just say "well you do what you can do; as long as you're conscious of it"
	6:54pm TDK60: Good night Julie and dark soulful nighters.
	🦇 6:54pm chris in the redwoods: eating with compassion is also very pricey. i am ridiculously privileged to be near farmers who raise food. and i can buy direct from them. but damn its costly and not sustainable for a large population. so, yeah, need to hop on the plant-based band-wagon. :)
	🦇 6:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& frankly when I was starving in the pandemic year I took charity - & was offered some remade meals w/ meat - & there they were, dead already - & I took them. I wasn't paying for people to do that - in fact the opposite ! & I wasn't gonna make a habit of it. So - I was already hungry - but the rush of consuming meat was quite a thing! It's obviously the complete protein - but also blood iron & minerals & b-vitamins... But pretty quickly I got that 'clogged up' feeling that I'd like to avoid... Cost is one reason I still eat eggs & dairy, I'd say. I'm not sure beans & rice cost more than beef & bacon - but I'll concede that somewhat... ngh that's another thing: Just because it's not an animal doesn't make it the best thing to eat - simple enuff...
	🦇 6:55pm Handy Haversack: I truly wish this show and this hangout could go all night -- and not just because I have to go to yet ANOTHER meeting right now! Thanks so much, Julie. Later on, friends!
	6:55pm northguineahills: The nearest charity place is a good 35 km from where I'm at, and that's a bit of a hike for even me.
	6:56pm K-2SO: thanks Julie! great show! glad to have been here. pip, pip Souls
	🦇 6:56pm chris in the redwoods: thanks, Julie! thanks, everyone! see you all around.
	🦇 6:56pm listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Julie!
	6:56pm WR: With all this food chat I had to stop and eat some yoghurt and banana. Onward. Thank you Julie and Birds of a Feather!
	🦇 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Julie! Fantastic show!
	6:56pm Richy4619: \\// julie!
	6:56pm HyperDose: Thanks Julie! Love how today's show got progressively mellower. Nice way to shoehorn us into the evening. @Handy She needs her own stream. Just Julie spinning the synthy gothy hits 24/7!
	🦇 6:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I think that what's convenient is the largest factor ! It's who wants to chop carrots all day every day - not that they cost so very much... TY Always Julie !
	6:57pm headcleaner: It costs more (nominally) to buy better food. But over time, I find I just have to eat right - and pay much more (in terms of lost time / disrupted sleep / feeling sub-par) as the price of not doing so
	6:57pm K-2SO: Nerf Herder FTW!
	6:57pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thanks Julie - and hope to make it to tomorrow's fill-in (hopefully no tongue-biting pizza incident this time on my part)
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: well... i do think that, along with dairy products very likely being worse for your health than eating beef, it's probably a crueler industry.
	🦇 6:58pm Handy Haversack: Now I feel dumb for not suggesting Selby Tigers.
	6:58pm northguineahills: I love food prepping in my own kitchen, I listen to a podcast, and watch sports on mute. It's relaxing for me... (i miss it).
	6:59pm coelacanth∅: < hey is that the physical graffiti album cover?
	7:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Julie!
	🦇 7:00pm Julie: very similar! Thanks everyone!
	🦇 7:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: coela - crueler than amass abattoir ?? But of course the Vegan would put them together... Resisted NerfHerder maybe cause I was in SantaBarbara for a long time. But on Gaylord's Fake Beatles blog - the best thing is Wawa sandwich commercials bu one of them ! Genius ! :D

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from May 4, 2021

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Familiar & forgotten gems from 50-plus years of music on the darker side, shoegaze, synthpop, goth, psychedelia, darkwave, with unapologetic detours into 70s pop. In a dark night of the soul, it's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

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May 4, 2021: Star War Day

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
The Kinks	This Is Where I Belong (Mono)	Face to Face	Reprise	1966			0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Flowers of America	Be Nice To Me "Be Nice To Me" by "Flowers of America"	Videorama	Sound Is Crazy	2020			0:03:36 (Pop-up)
Thomas Dolby	Weightless "Weightless" by "Thomas Dolby"	The Golden Age of Wireless	Capitol Records	1982			0:06:54 (Pop-up)
Laura Groves	Searching For the Stars	A Private Road	Bella Union	2020			0:10:37 (Pop-up)
Youth Worship	Immunity "Immunity" by "Youth Worship"	EP 1	Self Harm Records	2014			0:14:39 (Pop-up)
Daevid Allen's University Of Errors	Ocean In The Distance	e²x10=Tenure	InnerSPACE Records	2000			0:20:20 (Pop-up)
Venus In Furs	Love Lies "Love Lies" by "Venus In Furs"	Real Moral Fibre	Backs Records	1986			0:25:25 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Beach Boys	God Only Knows (stereo backing track)						0:31:28 (Pop-up)
Inkubus Sukkubus	Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell	The Beast With Two Backs	Resurrection Records	2004			0:36:09 (Pop-up)
Juliette and The Licks	Mind Full of Daggers	Four On The Floor	The Militia Group	2006			0:40:38 (Pop-up)
Nilüfer Yanya	Paralysed "Paralysed" by "Nilüfer Yanya"	Miss Universe	ATO Records	2019			0:44:11 (Pop-up)
Belly	Are You Experienced? "Are You Experienced?" by "Belly"	Moon	Sire	1993			0:48:53 (Pop-up)
The Gods	Misleading Colors "Misleading Colors" by "The Gods"	Genesis	Columbia	1968			0:52:17 (Pop-up)
Wendy James	The Nameless One "The Nameless One" by "Wendy James"	Now Ain't the Time for Your Tears	DGC	1993			0:55:46 (Pop-up)
The Trolley	Toy Shop "Toy Shop" by "The Trolley"	Fading Yellow Vol 3 (22 Shiny Jewels Of US Pop-Sike & Other Delights 1965-69)	Flower Machine Records	2012			1:01:13 (Pop-up)
Ender Bender	Have A Good Time "Have A Good Time" by "Ender Bender"	New Era	Ender Bender	2021		*	1:03:49 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Monkees	I Wanna Be Free (instrumental)						1:08:21 (Pop-up)
Depeche Mode	Strangelove "Strangelove" by "Depeche Mode"	Music For The Masses	Mute	1987			1:14:31 (Pop-up)
Lights That Change	Blue Star "Blue Star" by "Lights That Change"	Byzantium	LTC	2016			1:19:32 (Pop-up)
Ultra Vivid Scene	How Sweet "How Sweet" by "Ultra Vivid Scene"	Rev	4AD	1992			1:22:57 (Pop-up)
Christian Death	This Glass House "This Glass House" by "Christian Death"	Catastrophe Ballet	L'Invitation Au Suicide	1984			1:27:12 (Pop-up)
Helena Noguerra	Cyber Baba "Cyber Baba" by "Helena Noguerra"	Project: Bikini	East West	1998			1:30:25 (Pop-up)
Modesty Blaise	Pink Champagne On Mars (Return Of The Uranium Girl)	The Modesty Blaise	From Lo-Fi To Disco!	2021		*	1:34:08 (Pop-up)
The Queen's Nectarine Machine	Mysterious Martha Garoo	The Mystical Powers of Roving Tarot Gamble	ABC Records	1969			1:39:07 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Deep Purple	Lalena (instrumental)						1:44:49 (Pop-up)
Fleetwood Mac	Tusk "Tusk" by "Fleetwood Mac"	Tusk	Warner Bros	1979			1:51:32 (Pop-up)
Anita Lane	I'm A Believer "I'm A Believer" by "Anita Lane"	Dirty Sings	Mute	1988			1:54:54 (Pop-up)
Barbara Keith	The Big Black Deep "The Big Black Deep" by "Barbara Keith"	Barbara Keith	Verve Forecast	1970			1:59:36 (Pop-up)
Abecedarians	Wildflower "Wildflower" by "Abecedarians"	Eureka (reissue)	Pylon Records	2012	from 1986		2:03:17 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Butterfly "Butterfly" by "Pink Floyd"	1965 (Their First Recordings)	Pink Floyd Music	2015			2:07:22 (Pop-up)
Richard Barone	Tangled In Your Web	Cool Blue Halo	Passport Records	1987			2:10:19 (Pop-up)
17 Pygmies	Sunflowers "Sunflowers" by "17 Pygmies"	Welcome	Great Jones	1988			2:14:23 (Pop-up)
Jennifer Warnes	Tree-House Of Gold	"... I Can Remember Everything"	Parrot	1968			2:17:46 (Pop-up)
Форум (Forum)	Улетели Листья... = Leaves Have Fallen...	Белая Ночь = White Night	Мелодия	1984			2:20:09 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gary Numan	Down in the Park (piano instrumental)						2:24:57 (Pop-up)
Elton John	Take Me To The Pilot (piano demo)	Elton John (Deluxe)	DJM Records	1970			2:32:02 (Pop-up)
Grace Slick	Jay "Jay" by "Grace Slick"	Manhole	Grunt	1973			2:34:32 (Pop-up)
Nico	Orly Fight "Orly Fight" by "Nico"	Drama of Exile	Aura	1981			2:37:14 (Pop-up)
Thompson Twins	Don't Go Away "Don't Go Away" by "Thompson Twins"	A Product Of...	T Records	1981			2:41:18 (Pop-up)
Marc Almond	Only The Moment "Only The Moment" by "Marc Almond"	The Stars We Are	Capitol Records	1988			2:44:11 (Pop-up)
Fawning	Too Late "Too Late" by "Fawning"	Too Late	Graveface Records	2019			2:48:51 (Pop-up)
SSQ	Screaming In My Pillow "Screaming In My Pillow" by "SSQ"	Playback	Enigma Records	1983			2:52:47 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Bordens	Theme From Star Wars "Theme From Star Wars" by "The Bordens"						2:57:30 (Pop-up)
Alan Burnham	Science Fiction "Science Fiction" by "Alan Burnham"	Music to Save the World By (single)	Cherry Red	1981			3:01:46 (Pop-up)
Galaxie 500	Leave The Planet "Leave The Planet" by "Galaxie 500"	On Fire	Rough Trade	1989			3:05:38 (Pop-up)
The Telescopes	Spaceships "Spaceships" by "The Telescopes"	The Telescopes	Creation Records	1992			3:08:05 (Pop-up)
Star Madman & Sign of Crows	Dark Side	Dark Side (single)	Star Madman	2020			3:11:52 (Pop-up)
Alice Cooper	Clones (We're All) "Clones (We're All)" by "Alice Cooper"	Flush The Fashion	Warner Bros	1980			3:15:27 (Pop-up)
The Droids	The Force (pt 1) "The Force (pt 1)" by "The Droids"	(Do You Have) The Force	Barclay	1977			3:18:25 (Pop-up)
Berlin	Mind Control "Mind Control" by "Berlin"	Information	Vinyl	1980			3:22:10 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Alala	Star Wars Main Theme -- Medieval Bardcore Version						3:24:49 (Pop-up)
Ghost Cop	Sci Fi Drive "Sci Fi Drive" by "Ghost Cop"	Ghost Cop	Ghost Cop	2015			3:28:39 (Pop-up)
Pure Bathing Culture	Twins "Twins" by "Pure Bathing Culture"	Moon Tides	Partisan Records	2013			3:32:58 (Pop-up)
Stinkmitt	Jabba The Slut "Jabba The Slut" by "Stinkmitt"	The Red Album	Cochon Records	2006			3:37:06 (Pop-up)
Bellatrix	Jediwannabe "Jediwannabe" by "Bellatrix"	It's All True	Fierce Panda	2000			3:41:10 (Pop-up)
The Chicks	The Rebel Kind "The Rebel Kind" by "The Chicks"	Greatest Hits	Festival Records	1968	b-side from 1966		3:43:48 (Pop-up)
Andy Bell	Skywalker "Skywalker" by "Andy Bell"	The View From Halfway Down	Sonic Cathedral	2020			3:46:14 (Pop-up)
Marc Bolan & T. Rex	Galaxy "Galaxy" by "Marc Bolan & T. Rex"	Zinc Alloy And The Hidden Riders Of Tomorrow - A Creamed Cage In August	EMI	1974			3:52:33 (Pop-up)
Kitty Plague	Star Cats "Star Cats" by "Kitty Plague"	Fuzzy or Die	Kitty Plague	2018			3:54:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Syd Barrett	Gigolo Aunt (loop) "Gigolo Aunt (loop)" by "Syd Barrett"						3:54:53 (Pop-up)
Nerf Herder	I'm The Droid (You're Looking For)	Rockingham	Golfshirt Records	2016			3:57:40 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦇 2:58pm listener james from westwood: How do, Julie and all! These aren't the droids you're looking for.
	🦇 2:59pm Julie: hiya James!
	3:01pm David (in London): Hey Julie and all groovers here assembled.
	🦇 3:01pm Handy Haversack: Hi, Julie and all those who know the true power of the Dark Side.
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: hi Handy! Hey David!
	3:04pm spodiodi: hi Julie! hi james, David, Handy, all!
	🦇 3:05pm Julie: hiya Spodi!
	🦇 3:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Julie! Goodbye, Alderaan!
	🦇 3:07pm Julie: hiya Ken!
	🦇 3:07pm chris in the redwoods: Carrie <3 Also, hi Julie, and Darkside Knights.
	🦇 3:07pm Julie: hiya Chris!
	🦇 3:08pm Phillippe: Hey all
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: Carrie's daughter's post today www.instagram.com...
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: hiya Phillippe!
	🦇 3:09pm chris in the redwoods: adorable and heartbreaking.
	3:10pm spodiodi: really cute
	3:10pm David (in London): Handy, Spod, Phillippe, Ken, chris, greetings all.
	🦇 3:11pm Handy Haversack: David, spodi, James, Chris, Phillippe, Ken! Important safety tip: Lando's not a system. He's a man.
	3:11pm spodiodi: hola, KenFHP, chris in the redwoods and Phillippe!
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: I want a whole Donald Glover Lando movie
	3:12pm spodiodi: if i had to choose between that and a Billy Dee movie, i'm afraid (sorry, Donald -- i love your lando, but Billy Dee!!!)
	🦇 3:13pm Julie: I'd enjoy that too but I was thinking about another prequel
	3:13pm spodiodi: ... afraid i'd choose the Billy Dee version
	🦇 3:13pm chris in the redwoods: cheers, David, Handy, and spodi. i'd watch that, Julie!
	3:14pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Hello Chris, David, Handy, James, Julie, Ken, spodiodi!
	🦇 3:14pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey there, David / Handy / spodi! / various clones & droids! 🖖🖖🖖🖖
	🦇 3:14pm Julie: hiya Cha Cha!
	3:14pm spodiodi: hadn't considered how aging actors would figure into my idea, Julie :-B you make a great point
	3:15pm spodiodi: hi Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:15pm Phillippe: hey spodi, handy, David, Chris, ken, et al
	🦇 3:15pm xtrakrispy: So this is where all the cool kids are...
	🦇 3:15pm Handy Haversack: Billy Dee forever. Never saw the Solo movie. I found the new SW movies so disjointed and insulting to my narrative sense that I bailed entirely a few movies back.
	🦇 3:15pm chris in the redwoods: hiya, Cha Cha, Ken, and Phillippe.
	🦇 3:15pm Julie: I hope so xtra! We're a small but lively group.. welcome!
	🦇 3:17pm Julie: The only thing I remember about Solo was Glover. Rogue One movie was fun though, love Felicity Jones
	3:17pm Andres: Good afternoon, Julie and humanoids! “If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will...” Also, Billy Dee Williams +1. Lastly, sounding great!
	🦇 3:17pm Julie: Hiya Andres! Thank you!
	3:18pm spodiodi: handy, if for no other reason, you need to watch it for the L3-37 (holy crap i love her) played by the Fleabag actress www.indiewire.com... (so funny)
	3:18pm David (in London): Handy, that's a charitable assessment in my book. They made me want to gouge my own eyes out. (Rogue One excepted, Julie). And hey, why not take an actor of the stature of Max von Sydow and use him for about three minutes? Grrrr. Cha Cha, xtrakrispy, salutations!
	3:20pm David (in London): Hurrah! Daevid Allen arrives to make the world instantly better!
	🦇 3:20pm Bas NL: Hi Julie! Hi crew!
	🦇 3:20pm Julie: I had no idea that was her! I didn't watch Fleabag till later.
	🦇 3:20pm Julie: hiya Bas! Just discovering Daevid this reminds me of Kevin Ayers
	3:21pm Andres: I think Rogue One is in the top three SW movies. I’ve upset a few people saying that. I stand by it.
	3:21pm spodiodi: and K-2SO makes Rogue One more than worth watching as well (imho)
	🦇 3:21pm Bas NL: Nice track!
	3:22pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Every now and then I have a Vinyl Warm-Up Hour, so a few hours before this show, with me playing vinyls from my personal collection by artists played here. Turns out I broke the rules today by playing The Associates! But, you can always make good my mistake by playing them someday Julie ;)
	3:22pm spodiodi: aloha, xtracrispy, Andres and Bas!
	🦇 3:23pm Julie: I will hunt them down, thanks Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:23pm Bas NL: Hi spodi!
	3:23pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Boohoo, never saw Gong while Daevid Allen was still alive but I did manage to catch University of Errors on a ship moored in Bremen (namely M/S Treue), ummm 2010?
	🦇 3:25pm Handy Haversack: Bas, xtrakrispy, Cha Cha, Andres: hello!
	3:25pm Andres: Hey, spodiodi! Yes, K-2SO among the great characters.
	🦇 3:25pm Julie: a concert on a ship that sounds so fun
	🦇 3:26pm Bas NL: Hi Handy!
	🦇 3:26pm chris in the redwoods: haha, movies v books time for a sec. my last experience was with the movie Savages. after reading the Don Winslow novel and hearing he would be involved with the making of the movie, i was stoked. went to see it as soon as it came out. became increasingly incensed that the characters were not portrayed well. and near the end of the movie, in the denement of the bloody story, they just went a completely different direction. i actually exclaimed loudly, "you've got to be fucking kidding me."... time passes, the movie is released to streaming. i decide to watch it again just to make sure. this is how good the book is. what a great story. same thing happens. long story, short... i try not to watch movies of books i love.
	3:26pm Andres: Hey, Handy! Currently pondering a walk with my Darth Vader mask.
	🦇 3:27pm Julie: I think it's rare I see the movie after, it's usually the other way around.
	🦇 3:28pm Julie: I tried to read the Game of Thrones books but barely made it through the first
	3:29pm David (in London): A friend of mine told me about the guy who promoted Daevid Allen in the UK years ago taking him to a rave in Liverpool in the early 1990s to give him a flavour of the 'modern psychedelic culture'. It was packed, and when he turned his back to talk to someone, he looked back and Allen was gone. Then he noticed the entire club turning to face the same direction, and Allen had clambered up on top of this podium thing and was 'conducting' the whole club, hundreds of MDMA-enhanced ravers. They didn't know who he was, but they recognised a psychedelic leader when they saw one.
	🦇 3:29pm Handy Haversack: I'm glad you bailed that early, Julie! I think I read three before I finally asked myself what the hell was wrong with me. I wish I'd bailed on the show after three years, too, once it came along.
	3:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:23 Julie: you might like them! Very theathrical stuff (Klaus Nomi & Sparks come to mind), that Associates' 1982 album 'Sulk' which I have. A very odd (ignoring the original chord changes quite a bit) of 'Gloomy Sunday'. Didn't remember one-time Cure bass player Michael Dempsey is on that album, and did not know John Murphy is there too (his CV was/is a bit of a who's who of "certain type of music" SPK, Whitehouse, Death In June etc.)
	🦇 3:30pm chris in the redwoods: that's the smart move, i think, Julie. and yeah, i couldn't get into GoT book 1, either. great story, David. wowza.
	🦇 3:31pm Bas NL: I used to visit concerts on the MS Stubnitz while moored in Amsterdam harbor. Fantastic place. And old East-German fishery vessel with a stage in the freezer. (That was basically everything below deck). Great 'dead' acoustics as no walls were straight. Seen there: Rapoon, Circle, Faust.. many more.
	🦇 3:31pm listener james from westwood: I thought that first bird peep was my smoke alarm battery!
	🦇 3:32pm B R M: Late! Sorry! Hi!
	🦇 3:32pm chris in the redwoods: ah man, Bas, what a venue!
	3:34pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:31 Bas NL: I know it is quite a legendary venue, wherever it has been, sadly I was there only once, also in Bremen.
	🦇 3:35pm Ken From Hyde Park: That sounds pretty good, Bas, assuming it didn't reek of fish!
	🦇 3:35pm Julie: wow that sounds fun Bas
	3:37pm spodiodi: haven't read the GoT books, but have seen it all more than once (or twice). i thought it was a whole lot of fun (for multiple reasons.) better half is more a fan than myself, and has read the books. she's also infromed me recently of new GoT work that's happening now (prequel-type things. sawr a production still) we got to see it's opening (US showing) of it's season premiere one year at the SF Opera House. also a lot of fun.
	🦇 3:38pm Julie: Spodi Meghan & I went to a season premiere it Lincoln Center. They had a dragon where the fountain is. Pretty fun
	🦇 3:38pm Bas NL: No fishy smell at all, luckily. Drowned out by smell of large bottles of strong East-German beer. When Faust was on stage Zappi Diermaier, the drummer, went nuts playing all the piping and steel of the ship. I'll never forget that night.
	3:39pm spodiodi: cool, Julie!
	3:39pm luka: "Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell"??? must be tuesday!
	🦇 3:39pm Julie: haha hiya luka!
	3:39pm luka: hi Julie ^_^
	🦇 3:41pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Hey, hej, hay!
	🦇 3:41pm Julie: hiya Rich!
	3:43pm sufferwords: Scientology goth?
	🦇 3:44pm Julie: She's more punk but yeah afraid so
	🦇 3:44pm Julie: I wonder if I could do a whole set of scientologists... the only other one I can think of is Beck
	3:44pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:38 Bas NL: The only time I saw Faust was in 2008 in London when they suddenly sawed an air conditioning pipe in half, so thanks to the sudden burst of ventilation there was metal dust everywhere. I mean, thank God they did not dismantle or burn down the M/S Stubnitz or something.
	3:45pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:44 Julie: also Incredible String Band had a Scientology phase from 1969 onwards.
	🦇 3:46pm Julie: and apparently whoever famous blue raincoat was written about
	🦇 3:46pm Julie: I would buy an album by someone called Metal Dust
	🦇 3:47pm Handy Haversack: We're sure "Famous Blue Raincoat" isn't about Beck?
	3:47pm HyperDose: There's a guy named Fred Durst who sings on a few albums. He's pretty mellow for a dude from Florida.
	🦇 3:47pm Julie: hiya Hyper!
	🦇 3:47pm Rich in Bay Ridge: L. Ron Hubbard was a Mellotron enthusiast, i believe
	🦇 3:48pm Julie: well he can't be ALL bad I guess
	3:48pm Stanley: Hi Julie Photo2000: some friends of mine were caught up with that ISB Scientology business back then. They got out a few years later.
	3:48pm Rich in Washington: Fred Durst wrote and directed a terrible movie called The Fanatic and it's got John Travolta's best/worst performance.
	3:49pm spodiodi: was reading about that, Rich. too much
	🦇 3:49pm Bas NL: @PCC2000: Ha! Would have loved to have been there! :) The Stubnitz is no longer allowed in Amsterdam.. fire hazard! One is pretty much tinned up in the hold, with a single staircase through a top cover. I thought it just made for a very intimate feel. (Like sardines in a can..)
	🦇 3:49pm Rich in Bay Ridge: www.planetmellotron.com...
	🦇 3:49pm Julie: hiya Stanley! my old BF worked around them for years, would not give into their appeals to "join" and eventually left
	3:50pm David (in London): When I saw Faust in the mid 1990s, they started the gig in complete darkness, before turning on some massive air-blowing fans and emptying bags of wet leaves in front of them, turning the place into a maelstrom of madness. I got a massive wet horse-chestnut leaf in the face and it was like being attacked by the face-hugger in Alien. By the time the lights came up, the audience were in absolute disarray.
	3:50pm HyperDose: Hey Julie! @Rich Must have been after he directed that Puddle of Mudd video at that dive bar and thought he was Scorsese
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: I hear so much about Faust, which album do I need to check out?
	3:50pm spodiodi: i recently read an interview with Beck where he clarified the whole scientology thing (he's not one)
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: in my brain, they are a Fabio band
	🦇 3:51pm Julie: good to know, spodi
	3:51pm Stanley: Julie - dive into with The Faust Tapes. Did it for me.
	3:51pm Rich in Washington: The lowest point of The Fanatic is when the main antagonist of the film says to another character - while turning on his car radio "Limp Bizkit! I LOVE these guys!" and we have to hear a bunch of it.
	🦇 3:52pm Julie: two sides with no title?
	3:52pm spodiodi: www.smh.com.au... i was relieved (i've been a fan, but never liked that (i thought) he was one of Them)
	3:52pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:50 Julie: what Stanley said - if it still was the 1970s, Faust Tapes would be a cheap option, costing you all of £0.49. Plus it is a good collage of their madness and music.
	🦇 3:53pm Bas NL: Yeah, they are psychedelic/experimental. Very much Fabio's taste i think. Faust So Far and indeed The Faust Tapes..
	🦇 3:53pm Julie: yeah So Far is where I'm leaning, it's got titles LOL
	3:54pm Stanley: Haha - yep!
	3:54pm Andres: “Misleading Colors”. So, colour blind?
	🦇 3:54pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Faust played Monty in 2016? Anybody go to that?
	3:55pm David (in London): Bas, yeah, I'd probably recommend So Far as the place to start, too. But all Faust is good Faust.
	🦇 3:56pm Bas NL: I'm a bit biased though.. I got a copy of So Far signed with a personal message by Jean-Hervé Péron.
	3:57pm northguineahills: Thought I heard Belly in there! Remember when Tanya Donelly was a Gap model? (then again, so was Dj Spooky (Paul Miller)).
	🦇 3:57pm Julie: hiys NGH!
	3:58pm northguineahills: I used to get the Gods and the Godz mixed up in the record stores.....
	🦇 3:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: I was just looking up Faust on FMA. There are also recordings from a 2009 show (not in Monty per se). - www.freemusicarchive.org...
	3:59pm northguineahills: Then there was the time I bought Spring Heeled Jack (the ska band), instead of Sping Heel Jack (the drum & bass group).
	3:59pm spodiodi: love this Wendy James, Julie! (new to me. wish i'd heard it sooner)
	🦇 3:59pm Julie: I once bought a CD of some band called The Wicker Man
	🦇 4:00pm Bas NL: Ooww nice! Thanks for that, KenfHP.
	🦇 4:00pm Julie: oh spodi this whole album is good!
	4:02pm Mark R: Interesting spelling of "psych." Chick Corea was a scientologist but somehow I don't see you playing 70s fusion jazz.
	🦇 4:03pm Julie: haha you never know! Hiya Mark!
	🦇 4:03pm Julie: Isaac Hayes too, yeah?
	4:03pm spodiodi: thanks, Julie! i'll have to poke around later and give it a listen
	🦇 4:04pm Julie: I know so many people who write "Sike!" when they mean "Psych!" and it drives me nuts
	4:05pm Stanley: Drives me knuts!
	4:05pm David (in London): The legendary Bam Caruso label pretty much started it with the Pop Sike Pipe Dreams album in '87. They (well Phil Smee anyway) coined the term Freakbeat, too.
	🦇 4:08pm Handy Haversack: The force that through the green knuts sikes the flour ...
	4:08pm spodiodi: i'm lucky i don't Julie (would drive me nuts as well)
	4:13pm spodiodi: GBV/Pollard
	🦇 4:13pm listener james from westwood: Jandek Pinkett-Smith?
	🦇 4:14pm Julie: now THAT sounds like a good project, James! I like her too, I wanted to like her band but nah
	4:14pm spodiodi: late greetings to Stanley, ngh, Rich from Washington, Rich from Bay Ridge, HyperDose, Mark R, and anyone else lucky enough to have sneaked by me
	4:14pm spodiodi: DM FTW
	🦇 4:15pm listener james from westwood: As they say in Chicago: "Da Peche!"
	4:15pm northguineahills: Well, considering, Merzbow, has put out 513 albums since 1981....
	🦇 4:15pm Bas NL: First name i had in mind too @ngh!
	4:16pm David (in London): Ah, Basildon's finest. Love this.
	🦇 4:16pm Julie: yikes! And I don't have a single one of them. LPD has a ton of stuff
	4:17pm Richy4619: whole lotta Riches up in here. maybe i should change the handle. hmm...
	🦇 4:17pm Julie: hiya Richy!
	4:17pm HyperDose: Thanks for giving me a new movie to hate watch, Rich! A late hello to you too spodiodi!
	4:17pm spodiodi: all the philly girls i knew too, james hi Richy!
	4:17pm Stanley: Hi Spodi
	🦇 4:18pm listener james from westwood: Alternate future in which DM went a Nitzer Ebb or Ministry direction from this point.
	4:18pm David (in London): Hey HyperDose.
	4:19pm Richy4619: heya Julie, hiya Spod! \\ //
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: is that the spock hand or devil horns?
	4:21pm spodiodi: Julie, your most excellent radio programme makes it very difficult to get anything (unimportant) done! \\// Vulcan all the way, Julie (per Handy, TDK60 and chresti)
	4:21pm spodiodi: \m/ <--- horns
	4:21pm Richy4619: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
	4:22pm spodiodi: ~( 8^ ( \|)
	🦇 4:22pm Julie: last week I cleaned during my show LOL. Glad that's over.
	🦇 4:22pm Handy Haversack: Ha, I thought (because I know nothing) that \m/ was throwing hands in the air (with the implication of just not caring)!
	4:23pm spodiodi: lol, Handy
	🦇 4:23pm listener james from westwood: In the mid-90s my friend group used (/\) for Mister Burns steepling his fingers and saying, "Eeeeexcellent."
	4:23pm spodiodi: \m/ >< \m/
	🦇 4:23pm Julie: oh nice
	🦇 4:24pm Julie: spodi is there a cat in there?
	4:24pm Richy4619: $‾▿‾$ (/‾▿‾)/
	🦇 4:24pm Handy Haversack: Do you do it in italics for "hang loose"?
	🦇 4:25pm Julie: I love how ascii art lives on
	4:25pm spodiodi: cleaning sounds almost as fun as shaving ( i wouldn't know too much about the cleaning thing, but i did shave yesterday(!)) -- i'm accepting achievement awards and large US bills
	🦇 4:26pm chris in the redwoods: spodi @ 4:22 - Bender? nice!
	🦇 4:26pm Julie: is that Bender? Bender is the best
	4:27pm spodiodi: Julie, a cat? not sure if you're referring to Homer ~( 8^ ( \|) or the squinty tho-handed horns guy \m/ >< \m/
	🦇 4:27pm Handy Haversack: Oooo, Christian Death, nice. /\m//. Hmm, indicating italics with slashes doesn't really work here.
	4:27pm northguineahills: @spodi: Bite my shiny metal ass! (Bender).
	🦇 4:27pm Julie: oh Homer...yeah the handed horns the >< is like whiskers
	🦇 4:28pm Julie: homer and bender do have the same basic head shape
	4:28pm spodiodi: bite my shiny metal ass. it's homer. i love bender too. hav a nice die-cast bender mzSpodi bought me 1k years ago
	4:28pm David (in London): Bender is role model for us all.
	🦇 4:29pm Handy Haversack: Or 1k years from now!
	4:29pm spodiodi: >< <-- i see that, Julie X<8 )~~~ rat
	🦇 4:29pm chris in the redwoods: i can see Homer, but my brain wants to keep seeing Bender.
	4:30pm northguineahills: considering the original animator of both....
	4:30pm spodiodi: @@@ 8^ ) Marge is never far away
	🦇 4:30pm Julie: the little curl at the top makes it homer
	4:30pm Stanley: France meets Brazil in this nice little piece
	🦇 4:30pm Bas NL: Homer + Bender = Matt Groening
	4:32pm spodiodi: fish + lightbulb = Fishbulb = Homer
	4:33pm northguineahills: 0--( 8 ( \|) would be Bender
	🦇 4:33pm Bas NL: It all adds up... conspiracy!
	4:34pm spodiodi: Handy, your italics to achieve hang loose has had me chuckling :)
	4:34pm northguineahills: My partner got Wendel figurine (Simpsons) for herself one year (and I thought I was weird).
	🦇 4:37pm chris in the redwoods: thanks, ngh @ 4:33, i can stop obsessing now. :)
	🦇 4:37pm Julie: oh that's good
	4:37pm spodiodi: i had to use the interknut to determine who he is, ngh shrugs i like some weird stuff myself. can't say anything
	4:38pm WR: NGH! Bender! 0--( 8 ( \|) Homer Simpson? ~( 8 ( \|)
	🦇 4:39pm Handy Haversack: We'll let the typesetter work it out, spodi! Also: welp, there's your answer, fishbulb.
	4:39pm spodiodi: ¦̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱ ̵̱(̢ ̡͇̅└͇̅┘͇̅ (▤8כ−◦
	4:40pm Richy4619: Ascii roolz. Emojis drool.
	🦇 4:42pm Handy Haversack: There is no emoticon for what I'm feeling! But is there a word in Klingon for loneliness?
	🦇 4:42pm Julie: a warrior doesn't get lonely
	🦇 4:43pm ~( 8 ( \|): D'oh!
	🦇 4:43pm Julie: HAHA
	4:43pm Richy4619: Although, apparently there's an open form to submit emoji proposals via Unicode's website home.unicode.org...
	🦇 4:43pm Handy Haversack: Sigh ... GAR-DOCH ... sigh ...
	4:44pm northguineahills: I don't have the ascii tableu for that w/o digging....
	4:46pm northguineahills: I have so many albums w/ tarot cards on the cover, but not that one.....
	🦇 4:46pm Handy Haversack: Oh, and David, I affixed a bunch of customs labels to swag packages bound for over the water, but yours wasn't among them. I would totally have added a note on the envelope.
	4:46pm spodiodi: best DM song = Blue Dress
	🦇 4:49pm listener james from westwood: Yay for more Julie and Charlie! Thanks also for the reminder on Charlie's last fill-in—I was FaceTiming during the bulk of it, so I want to have a good dedicated listen. (And I see he started that one with June Christy's "This Is My Theme," which I ADORE, so good lis'nin' ahead!)
	🦇 4:49pm Bas NL: Just count your clicky stars.. :)
	4:49pm northguineahills: @Julie: I'm going to miss the birds when you go back to the mothership.... (i actually know some of their names).
	4:50pm David (in London): Handy, oh well, never mind. You'll just have to send the Extreme Pringles separately.
	4:50pm bigplanetnoise: Hey Juuuuuulie!
	4:50pm spodiodi: what ngh said -- to Julie's birds!
	🦇 4:51pm Handy Haversack: No customs form could stop them!
	🦇 4:51pm Julie: hiya planet man! Well, there's no plans to go back to the mothership yet, only the main studio is cleared for use so far, so worry not.
	4:51pm David (in London): You could record the birds Julie, and use them as your bed sounds when back in the studio, a la Trouble.
	🦇 4:51pm Julie: extreme pringles??
	4:52pm miles of middle texas: Hey Julie and all. Tusk!!
	🦇 4:52pm Julie: howdy Miles! Hot down there yet?
	4:52pm northguineahills: Tusk (my favorite Fleetwood album, which says a lot)!
	4:54pm miles of middle texas: 90fing degrees yesterday
	4:54pm northguineahills: what David said, or you can leave a mic on in your pad and feed it to the studio during the mic breaks for the bed.
	4:55pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: The title track off my favorite BuckNicks-lineup Fleetwood Mac album only to be followed by my favorite Anita Lane track. Life is good.
	4:56pm northguineahills: @Miles: a nice humid 93F/33C right now here in Orlando.
	🦇 4:56pm Julie: We lost Anita last week : (
	4:57pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @4:56 Julie: yes, it was weird when people were wondering last tuesday what's Nick Cave up to, and the answer probably was: grieving.
	4:57pm northguineahills: I've never heard Anita Lane before, but am familiar w/ the album cover from crate digging.
	🦇 4:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oof AnitaLane - I'll always think of listening to her in a CD store I worked @ & just blushing somehow. I can't remember anyone else doing that. NickCave eulogized her as smarter & more talented than any of them.
	🦇 4:58pm Julie: The news came out after we talked about him I think
	4:59pm Marie: Hi Jule, hi everybody, really enjoying the show (super busy at work so I can't really add much to the board). I think a lot of us are still suffering the effects of a year of almost total shutdown and a lot of things are still shut. It's not like everything is hunky dory again
	🦇 4:59pm Julie: I had the cd of Dirty Pearl for years had no idea of the Cave connection. Hiya Marie!! yes, this is true.
	4:59pm Marie: I'm sick of my routine
	🦇 5:00pm Julie: hopefully you can change things up soon. Right now it feels a massive effort to put on clothes and leave the apartment! Like even more than usual.
	5:01pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @4:57 northguineahills: A CD of Dirty Pearl is where you should head to in case you are interested. It's got Dirty Sings in its entirety along with the original album Dirty Pearl, which is basically a compilation of music she was involved with 1993- 82 (yes, in reversed chronological order)
	5:01pm spodiodi: hear, hear, Marie!
	5:03pm Stanley: Oooh, liking this Abecedarians
	🦇 5:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pandemic has been various stages of bizarre & impactful obviously - but I'm also pissed off @ how much 'Normal' everyone wants to return to ! Fact is - I really don't !...
	5:03pm northguineahills: Well, after 5 months, I, got my unemployment extended, now I have to wait for a check (to my bro).
	🦇 5:03pm Julie: the Groovy Guru is a fun track on Dirty Pearl
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: Hiya Rev! Yeah same! I don't think I can handle a NYC size crowd again.
	5:04pm spodiodi: hear, hear, RRN63!
	5:04pm northguineahills: My records are strictly in abecedarian order (don't have the Abecedarians, thought).
	🦇 5:04pm Handy Haversack: I think someone played it over this past week, Julie? Unless I'm now just making up WFMU memories since it's my entire social life?
	5:04pm Marie: Hi Spodi. @)
	🦇 5:05pm Julie: @Handy it's quite likely.
	5:05pm Marie: I totally agree with you RR63
	5:07pm northguineahills: I have a friend who wants me to move back the Brooklyn, when she moves back after next month. To be fair, I haven't interacted w/ anyone here in the last 13.5 months, and the job situation is no better, and the hotel is more then what I paying in the Bushwick.
	🦇 5:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Already that Syd eccentricity & unmistakable Gittar...
	🦇 5:07pm Handy Haversack: Too nice to go inside. I think I'll make another drink and bring the cutting board out here to chop some things for dinner. I have been blanking out -- just listening and staring at the birds. Total brain shutdown. I think I've been trying to use it harder than the factory specs suggest.
	🦇 5:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...kind of a big deal to have unfamiliar Syd here !!
	🦇 5:09pm Julie: I'm so mad this was released in such a limited version. I'm happy I have digital but man I would love a copy.
	5:09pm northguineahills: Eureka (abecedarians) was originally released in 1986.
	5:11pm spodiodi: been in self-imposed quarantine since 2006. having extra company since the plague's onset has been nice (and it bums me out that it's disappearing) dumb it out, Handy!
	🦇 5:11pm Julie: that song is only on the reissue though
	5:13pm Marie: I hope you start feeling better soon, Julie. @) (and everyone else too)
	🦇 5:15pm Julie: back at ya, Marie.
	5:15pm coelacanth∅: greetings Julie and all
	🦇 5:16pm Julie: hey there coela!
	🦇 5:17pm Julie: which one of you guys is the editor?
	🦇 5:19pm listener james from westwood: <— Copy editor, if that counts.
	🦇 5:20pm Julie: yes it does... I may need your help with some radio-related content soon James
	5:21pm headcleaner: tingles up and down my spine, this song brings
	🦇 5:21pm listener james from westwood: Interesting . . . do let me know as details jell!
	5:22pm Richy4619: ya, this Forum track is a proper jammer
	🦇 5:22pm Handy Haversack: Here, too, Julie, if you have enough you need to share it out.
	5:23pm Andres: Soviet Wave!
	🦇 5:23pm Julie: thanks Handy! Just redoing my show description and could use some extra eyes
	🦇 5:30pm Handy Haversack: More eyes always good! I guess it's a good sign I've already cut myself twice with this new knife? I declare the meal still vegetarian since I gave consent.
	5:30pm sim: Oh! Abecedarians! I thought it was Amy Sedaris. NM
	🦇 5:31pm chris in the redwoods: hi, coel! employ the claw method, Handy!
	🦇 5:32pm Julie: funny, Sim! do I need to send an email about tomorrow's fill-in, Cha Cha?
	🦇 5:32pm Julie: OUCH handy
	🦇 5:33pm chris in the redwoods: primo Elton, this.
	5:33pm spodiodi: eating one's self is still considered vegan as far as i'm concerned
	5:34pm HyperDose: @Handy A few drops of blood add a nice umami flavor to the dish. A wise choice!
	🦇 5:34pm Julie: I just love nascent Elton
	5:34pm spodiodi: aloha, coelacanth∅
	5:35pm TDK60: Hi Julie.
	🦇 5:35pm Julie: hiya TDK!
	5:35pm David (in London): Just don't let those Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell find out about it Handy, or you won't get a moment's peace. Hey Coela, TDK.
	🦇 5:36pm Julie: nice callback, david!
	5:36pm TDK60: Hi David. \|\| Embarrassed to admit, as a Jefferson Airplane sympathizer, I never heard this Grace solo LP!
	5:37pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:32 Julie: no, it's OK, tomorrow's fill-in noted. Should I forget, nobody's fault but mine.
	5:38pm coelacanth∅: hey chris!
	🦇 5:39pm Julie: WFMU has definitely expanded my JA collection, including things like this and that one album she did with Kantner
	5:39pm coelacanth∅: hey spodi, David!
	🦇 5:39pm Handy Haversack: Yo, coela, TDK60!
	🦇 5:40pm Julie: \\// is that right?
	5:40pm coelacanth∅: howdy Handy!
	5:40pm TDK60: Handy. Holding forth, east of estuary?
	🦇 5:40pm Bas NL: Careful Handy.. You'll become a autophagitarian in no time.
	5:40pm spodiodi: Thee, TDK60 \\//
	5:41pm TDK60: \\ // Spodiodi. How is the lower peninsula?
	5:41pm coelacanth∅: - or a mishapitarian?
	🦇 5:43pm Handy Haversack: I'm sure the serrano and Dubonnet will sterilize it. Basking, TDK60!
	5:44pm TDK60: Julie, I thought of a group you might like, I don't think you've played. Do I tell you here in front of the teeming masses, or via the proper inside channels?
	🦇 5:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ah Gracie. Nothing like that ♏︎Scorpio gaze ! ...Yeah Handy you might wanna add garlic against vampires. Sharks I'm not sure about... Ah Julie. It's good to 'be hear'.
	5:45pm spodiodi: TDK60, good -- warm, sunny, with Julie's show keeping my head in place. how are things in NYC?
	🦇 5:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...damn I love Nico. Just do...
	🦇 5:46pm chris in the redwoods: as my dad delivered the sharpened knives to the kitchen, he would include a new supply of band-aids. :)
	🦇 5:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& Vitamin E...
	🦇 5:46pm Julie: TDK you can tell me here!
	5:47pm northguineahills: @Handy: I can't count how many times I got my blood into my food (literally have a bloody tissue here, and I have nothing sharp here, blood barely clots). but, since I like Mexican blood pudding, not much of a change.
	5:47pm TDK60: NYC, sunny, mild, a bit too hazy for my tastes. \|\| Oh Julie. it was the '80s-'90s UK band, Kitchens of Distinction. I think they'd fit in fine here.
	🦇 5:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hell - why not get as much back inside as you can...
	🦇 5:48pm Julie: oh yes I think I have one of theirs somewhere
	5:50pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Full support for playing something from Kitchens of Distinction.
	🦇 5:53pm Julie: inside is where it's at... apparently Handy is some kinda sun worshipper
	5:55pm spodiodi: i hear ya, Julie -- it's nice out, but my blinds are mostly all closed
	5:55pm headcleaner: they don't make 'em like this anymore
	🦇 5:55pm Julie: hiya headcleaner!
	🦇 5:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...one thing it screams is definitely 1983...
	5:57pm Tome: Great show Julie nice to be here !<>! and May the 4th be with you too always !<>!
	🦇 5:58pm Handy Haversack: Julie, I hope that Strange Stars, the book, proved useful in finding some Star Wars music?
	5:59pm northguineahills: The Bordens, not to be confused w/ The Boredoms.
	5:59pm northguineahills: wasn't Borden a milk brand in the South?
	🦇 6:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh yeah - distinctive cow head.
	6:01pm TDK60: Hola NGH. I recall the Borden milk brand but not if it was only in one region.
	🦇 6:01pm Julie: Man I didn't even think to use it, duh me! I thought Borden milk was all over
	🦇 6:01pm Julie: hi Tome!
	🦇 6:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I remember ...Borden dehydrated milk powder packets ?? Awful stuff...
	🦇 6:03pm Julie: there were also cans of condensed milk, whatever the hell that was
	6:03pm northguineahills: Well, I only drank milk when I was really little before moving to Japan, so, I only remember it from WV/VA/FL.
	🦇 6:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah I was never in the South !
	6:05pm David (in London): Gonna hit the hay now. Thanks for a great set, Julie. Later groovers.
	🦇 6:05pm Julie: nite David! Thanks for stopping in!
	6:05pm northguineahills: first guitar chord, I immediately recognized Dean Wareham's work.
	6:07pm northguineahills: I have a pic w/ Dean when I was 19 after seeing Luna at a small club....(I looked goofy).
	🦇 6:07pm chris in the redwoods: c-ya, David.
	🦇 6:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ah-ha ! Connection to Elmer's Glue : en.wikipedia.org... ...also the cow head...
	6:07pm spodiodi: adios, David (in London)!
	🦇 6:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Night DiL.
	🦇 6:08pm Julie: the voice of bart is a scientologist! www.billboard.com...
	6:09pm TDK60: G'night David.
	6:12pm headcleaner: maybe she can do the audiobook for _Battlefield Earth_
	🦇 6:13pm chris in the redwoods: Chaka too??? say it aint so, billboard!
	🦇 6:14pm chris in the redwoods: whew, at least she denies it. :D
	🦇 6:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Control Your Reactive Mind / Don't have a cow man...
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: hahaha
	🦇 6:14pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I have that Telescopes CD and haven't listened to it in years. Decades? It was in heavy rotation in my car CD player for a couple of years. Now I'm going to have to find it. I think it was a promo in a cardboard sleeve.
	6:14pm luka: a great Alice song
	6:15pm K-2SO: Alice <3
	🦇 6:15pm Julie: I can't get over his look there!
	6:15pm northguineahills: @Rev Rabbit: thought they had the same logo. (wait Elmer's is a food product?).
	🦇 6:15pm Julie: hi K-2S0 are you a clone?
	6:15pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: For an album that uses plenty of that 'funky drummer' beat (like so many UK bands at the time) that 1992 Telescopes album is rather QUIET.
	🦇 6:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Elsie the cow !
	6:16pm coelacanth∅: gnight David
	🦇 6:16pm chris in the redwoods: a clone with great taste in music...
	6:16pm coelacanth∅: borden cow head highly visible in nj and ny when i was little
	6:16pm K-2SO: Julie, "Did You Know That Wasn't Me?"
	🦇 6:18pm Handy Haversack: OK, I know this song is mentioned in Strange Stars!
	🦇 6:18pm Julie: sorry, no K-2SO I doubt I'd have played Brandi anyway even if Elton does love her
	🦇 6:19pm Julie: this is on a coldwave comp I have, how weird is that?
	6:19pm K-2SO: ngh, a couple of weeks back, i was checking to see if Elmer's glue was "still made" with animal parts, whne i was confronted with "Elmer's does not currently use animals or animal parts to make glue. Its glue adhesive products are made from synthetic materials and are not derived from processing horses, cows, or any other animals, or milk." from it's wikipedia entry
	🦇 6:20pm Julie: no hooves huh
	🦇 6:20pm Julie: vegan glue, drink or sniff away!
	6:20pm K-2SO: nope. not so for Jello, still, "sadly"
	6:21pm K-2SO: mucilage <-- yech
	🦇 6:21pm Julie: wow that is surprising still hooves in jello
	6:24pm Tome: Love it !<>! !<>! PeW !<>! PeW !<>!
	6:25pm K-2SO: yes Julie, there exists vegan marshmallows (traditionally also made using gelatin)... i wonder why whatever they've used to achieve the marshmallows hasn't been used to create animal-free Jello more silly Star Wars music ! :) (where do you find some of this stuff?)
	6:25pm headcleaner: silly yes, but how fun and bouncy tech-oriented music used to be back then (as technology itself was viewed, by and large) - today, not so much
	🦇 6:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Most likely pigskin says here : recipes.howstuffworks.com...
	6:25pm northguineahills: @K-250: So I can still keep sniffing glue? (not a vegan).
	6:26pm K-2SO: exist* yes, ngh. ii'll allow it. and recommend using Testors
	🦇 6:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo birdies !
	6:27pm Tome: the stuff they have now much of it they had some 35 40years ago, when you only have "8Bits" to work with still amazin what you can do it need be !
	6:27pm K-2SO: hi Cannibal! (do you ever let him listen to ARB's show?)
	🦇 6:28pm listener james from westwood: Aw yiss Ghost Cop
	🦇 6:28pm Julie: they might wanna make stew out of him!
	6:28pm northguineahills: Cannibal! I once let my partner eat a dish w/ a meat product at a restaurant (not apparent), b/c I was tired and just wanted to go home, and didn't want her to reorder.. I'm a horrible person.
	🦇 6:29pm Julie: awww
	🦇 6:29pm Rich in Bay Ridge: My first job out of college was at a sugar company, and I was surprised that cattle "bone char" was one of the biggest expenses in refining white sugar. Many refineries modernized to a vegan-friendly process that does not involve cattle bones, but it's still commonly used.
	🦇 6:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...relieved not so StarWars specific: I'm down w/ SciFi ! ngh - I'll pretend I didn't read that...
	6:30pm coelacanth∅: so if you hear of a horse being sent to the glue factory, and it's Elmer's factory, you may rest assured it's going there for an animal compassion awareness meeting.
	🦇 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Rich - so Jell-o might get an animal two-fer there !
	🦇 6:31pm Julie: wow Rich, had no idea!
	6:31pm northguineahills: @Rev Rabbit: I didn't realize it until she started eating it, and my brain was shot after working an 80 hour week, I was just happy to eat.
	🦇 6:32pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I was working there when the Williamsburg refinery converted to non-char carbonatation....well, they ain't making sugar there anymore.
	6:32pm northguineahills: (I knew the ingredients of the dish, even though she asked for a vegan option beforehand).
	🦇 6:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& some fish product used in processing Guinness ! I'm like AWW ! ...But I think they're trying to change... ngh I recognize your human weakness there... It's kind of on the veggie / vegan ...Ideally there would be a big flashing sign : Veggie Soup ...with CHICKIN STOCK - but I'm afraid not...
	6:34pm coelacanth∅: yup - all the pretend vegans out there (which is just about all those who call themselves vegan) are consuming animal ingredients daily...along with all the other things they do that make them not vegan
	🦇 6:36pm Julie: what about my vegetarian friends who eat chicken? I have far too many of those. Just say you don't eat red meat, it's okay!
	🦇 6:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& - I love leather... not like I'm some major purchaser of it - I've got a lot of stuff from 2nd hand shops (I werked @ one long time) - but I wear it...
	6:36pm coelacanth∅: soup with chicken stock is not vegetarian. there's no grey area.
	6:36pm coelacanth∅: Julie they are liars!
	6:37pm K-2SO: vegetarians do not eat animals or animal products, nor vegans.
	🦇 6:37pm Julie: I know that and you know that but someone needs to tell them that.
	🦇 6:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Chicken is not a vegetable. & they're raised most often hideously. Neither are the eggs & dairy I consume - but I'm explicit about that...
	6:38pm K-2SO: vegetarians don't eat vegans (ok, K-2SpO.)
	6:38pm HyperDose: Jabba is a total slut! Glad someone finally said it. :p
	6:38pm Marie: still diggin' the show--fun! loving the Star Wars hour! (working late, can't wait to sign off)
	🦇 6:39pm chris in the redwoods: goddamn i love this too much. Jabba you Slut!
	6:39pm coelacanth∅: i was a vegetarian before it was fashionable (an actual vegetarian - commonly and incorrectly called "vegan" now) and lots of people would say "but you can still eat chicken though"!
	6:39pm K-2SO: i bet Jabba wears Leia's slave girl getup when no one else is around
	6:39pm Marie: "she's a gastropod"
	🦇 6:39pm Julie: I'm glad you're enjoying it, this was my guilty novelty song purchase
	🦇 6:40pm Julie: oh lord thanks for that image, K
	6:41pm K-2SO: you're most welcome, Julie, and "The Captain Says You're A Friend. I Will Not Kill You."
	6:41pm HyperDose: Pretty sure it defies the laws of the universe for Julie to have a bad show. You know how to make 'em fun and keep us coming back for more!
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: awww thank you, HyperDose means a lot
	6:42pm northguineahills: She will eat honey, now (it's a far as she goes), but used to be a pescadorian when I first met her. There are veggie stocks available. (and boullion cubes that are veggie). I was a veggie for years until grad school, and it was too expensive at Hunter in the Upper East Side. Now, I cook veggie, if an option, but I eat crappy stuff when broke (like now), or I eat meat when it's some dish I've never tried before.
	🦇 6:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I used to say 'less killing still filling' - but the vegans made sure the world knows how awful the egg & dairy industries are... I gave up animals one by one some time ago now. First swine - then cows. I thot - chickens are healthy. Then they told about how they're raised - which is the absolute worst... Ate seafood a good while still - & they shamed me outta that. Started with cholesterol & additive concerns - my own health. Now I feel it's about humanitarianism & such - & was always about environmental impact. That matters...
	🦇 6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...So I do think it's good to have as little impact as possible - but the fact is you literally can't wipe yer butt without impact. So self-righteousness about it is misplaced - not especially helpful... & to intelligently weigh your impact - involves being informed about the facts of it - indeed...
	🦇 6:48pm Julie: I was surprised to find that neither of the three leads ever recorded a song. Kinda surprising Carrie didn't. I didn't mine the xmas special, but I did check discogs and it's all voiceover
	6:48pm K-2SO: hear, hear, RRN63. i have plenty to say about all of it (resisting for the obvious reasons), but yeah.
	6:49pm coelacanth∅: after 7 years of eating no animal flesh (3 of no animal ingredient) i started working a very small amount of fish into my diet for health reasons. i eat it maybe once/week now, and i rationalize it morally by remaining conscious of the fact the animals are not in a living hell their whole lives, awaiting to die, as mammals and birds are.
	🦇 6:49pm Julie: I am so glad you guys know how to use "hear hear" properly. Every time someone types Here Here, I say where? and no one gets the joke.
	🦇 6:49pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I admire anyone who has eliminated animal products from their diet or lifestyle, whatever the motivation. I am not there yet.
	6:49pm headcleaner: It took a few decades for vegan products to catch up with animal-based (especially when it comes to baking - remember how bad vegan desserts used to be?) - but by now you can easily find stuff at par or better than the usual milk/butter substrate, if you know where to look
	6:50pm northguineahills: If you ever driven past an industrial chicken "farm", you know how bad their conditions are. Same w/ industrial pork farms. Beef farms don't seem as bad (unless to go to the Plains), until you see the killing floors cue Troy McClure, "don't worry Billy, it's more of grating then a floor")
	🦇 6:50pm Julie: Me either, Rich, certainly not after becoming very anemic.
	6:51pm northguineahills: Meat products are cheaper then vegan ones. And where I'am at, I can maybe get a salad w/ a 5 km walk for $8.
	🦇 6:52pm Julie: yes, eating healthy is much costlier. Sucks.
	6:53pm northguineahills: Then there's the issue of processed vegan foods are still processed foods. Thanks, Julie!
	6:54pm K-2SO: hahaha the meowing was great XD
	🦇 6:54pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Great show, as freaking always. Loved the bonus hour. See you tomorrow. Thanks Julie.
	6:54pm coelacanth∅: my former housemate calls himself a vegan, despite me several times reminding him he is not! and he's a shithead in many ways but i'll give him this: he never gave anyone shit about eating animal products. he'd just say "well you do what you can do; as long as you're conscious of it"
	6:54pm TDK60: Good night Julie and dark soulful nighters.
	🦇 6:54pm chris in the redwoods: eating with compassion is also very pricey. i am ridiculously privileged to be near farmers who raise food. and i can buy direct from them. but damn its costly and not sustainable for a large population. so, yeah, need to hop on the plant-based band-wagon. :)
	🦇 6:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& frankly when I was starving in the pandemic year I took charity - & was offered some remade meals w/ meat - & there they were, dead already - & I took them. I wasn't paying for people to do that - in fact the opposite ! & I wasn't gonna make a habit of it. So - I was already hungry - but the rush of consuming meat was quite a thing! It's obviously the complete protein - but also blood iron & minerals & b-vitamins... But pretty quickly I got that 'clogged up' feeling that I'd like to avoid... Cost is one reason I still eat eggs & dairy, I'd say. I'm not sure beans & rice cost more than beef & bacon - but I'll concede that somewhat... ngh that's another thing: Just because it's not an animal doesn't make it the best thing to eat - simple enuff...
	🦇 6:55pm Handy Haversack: I truly wish this show and this hangout could go all night -- and not just because I have to go to yet ANOTHER meeting right now! Thanks so much, Julie. Later on, friends!
	6:55pm northguineahills: The nearest charity place is a good 35 km from where I'm at, and that's a bit of a hike for even me.
	6:56pm K-2SO: thanks Julie! great show! glad to have been here. pip, pip Souls
	🦇 6:56pm chris in the redwoods: thanks, Julie! thanks, everyone! see you all around.
	🦇 6:56pm listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Julie!
	6:56pm WR: With all this food chat I had to stop and eat some yoghurt and banana. Onward. Thank you Julie and Birds of a Feather!
	🦇 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Julie! Fantastic show!
	6:56pm Richy4619: \\// julie!
	6:56pm HyperDose: Thanks Julie! Love how today's show got progressively mellower. Nice way to shoehorn us into the evening. @Handy She needs her own stream. Just Julie spinning the synthy gothy hits 24/7!
	🦇 6:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I think that what's convenient is the largest factor ! It's who wants to chop carrots all day every day - not that they cost so very much... TY Always Julie !
	6:57pm headcleaner: It costs more (nominally) to buy better food. But over time, I find I just have to eat right - and pay much more (in terms of lost time / disrupted sleep / feeling sub-par) as the price of not doing so
	6:57pm K-2SO: Nerf Herder FTW!
	6:57pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thanks Julie - and hope to make it to tomorrow's fill-in (hopefully no tongue-biting pizza incident this time on my part)
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: well... i do think that, along with dairy products very likely being worse for your health than eating beef, it's probably a crueler industry.
	🦇 6:58pm Handy Haversack: Now I feel dumb for not suggesting Selby Tigers.
	6:58pm northguineahills: I love food prepping in my own kitchen, I listen to a podcast, and watch sports on mute. It's relaxing for me... (i miss it).
	6:59pm coelacanth∅: < hey is that the physical graffiti album cover?
	7:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Julie!
	🦇 7:00pm Julie: very similar! Thanks everyone!
	🦇 7:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: coela - crueler than amass abattoir ?? But of course the Vegan would put them together... Resisted NerfHerder maybe cause I was in SantaBarbara for a long time. But on Gaylord's Fake Beatles blog - the best thing is Wawa sandwich commercials bu one of them ! Genius ! :D

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from May 4, 2021

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