WFMU: Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from February 2, 2021

Listener comments!
	🦇 3:00pm listener james from westwood: Afternoon, Julie and all! Still mining my car out from all this snow.
	🦇 3:00pm Handy Haversack: Hello, Julie and all the Dark Ones!
	🦇 3:01pm Handy Haversack: I exposed ours today, James. Hoping not to have to move it till the thaw!
	3:02pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I'm a lazy b*stard, plenty of snow to be shoveled on my veranda, but listening to this instead. Hey Handy, james, Julie!
	3:02pm TDK60: Hiya Julie, Mods. Everyone looking sharp.
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: hiya James! Hi Handy! heya Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: heya TDK!
	3:02pm coelacanth∅: greetings Julie and all
	3:03pm HyperDose: Julieeeeee!
	3:03pm ike p: greetings and good day from - yup still snowing - baltimore
	3:03pm Dean: Today is James Joyce's birthday, but I have an idea for a theme hour playlist more suitable as a tribute to Georges Perec. Play only groups whose names don't include the letter "e." So, no The Kinks, but Madonna? Sure. No Beatles or Bowie, but Oasis is a-OK.
	🦇 3:04pm Julie: heya coela & Hyper!
	🦇 3:04pm Handy Haversack: Since Kate can't run in all this mess, she's gonna dance to your show for exercise and release today, Julie! Hey, Cha Cha, TDK60, coela, everyone!
	🦇 3:04pm Julie: hiya Dean! Hiya dancing K8!
	3:05pm coelacanth∅: "the" is expendable, as it is in your alphabetization of records
	3:05pm Rick from SC: Hey Julie and all.
	🦇 3:06pm Julie: hiya Rick.I agree Coela...
	3:06pm Rick from SC: What about The The
	3:07pm coelacanth∅: howdy Handy the the is just the
	🦇 3:07pm Handy Haversack: Oulipian Fourth Hour, Dean. That tracks!
	3:07pm HyperDose: Don't you just love it when you put a water bottle in the freezer and actually remember to get it before it freezes? mmmm so cold
	3:07pm coelacanth∅: (or, in my computer, the,the)
	3:08pm Dean: DJ Michael Shelley goes to extremes in that regard. He routinely relegates the "The" to a position at the end, following a comma and space. So, The The would be The, The.
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: ooh that sounds good Hyperdose
	3:09pm coelacanth∅: that doesn't sound good to me. hot water sounds good to me. (preferably the flavor of tea or coffee)
	3:09pm Nick: Hot water tastes too much like water for me.
	3:10pm coelacanth∅: if you drink hot water it has to be good water
	3:11pm Mr. Nobody: Hey All!
	3:11pm Dean: Reminded of Steven Wrights, "I got this powdered water. Now I don't know what to add."
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: hey Mr Nobody Hi Nick!
	3:11pm Dean: ^Wright's
	3:12pm HyperDose: I run extremely hot. I'd live in a morgue if I could.
	🦇 3:12pm chris in the redwoods: hi, Julie and folks. this Hawley cut is great. don't think i've heard it until now.
	3:13pm coelacanth∅: Dean maybe he's just copying/pasting from his computer?
	🦇 3:14pm Julie: Hi Chris!
	3:14pm coelacanth∅: hey chris
	3:15pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:12 HyperDose: SAME! I think just how cold I keep my apartment is already damaging for it. But something like 55F is ideal bedroom temp for me...
	3:16pm Dean: Possibly, coelacanth∅ (speaking of which, your name was on my clipboard from the last show!), but I'd like to think he's making the effort to do it and, anyway, aren't databases these days smart enough to recognize non-filing characters, noise words, etc.?
	3:18pm Cronbat: Howdy, all!
	3:18pm KWilde: 5cc!
	🦇 3:20pm Julie: hi Cronbat! Hi KWilde!
	🦇 3:20pm chris in the redwoods: when i worked in an office, i had co-workers who only drank warm(ie body temp) H2O. some sort of health benefits were espoused by doing so. i remain unconvinced.
	3:20pm KWilde: Just tuned in - hi Julie and dark souls
	3:20pm coelacanth∅: my gut feeling is it's probably good for your apartment - just as being cool is better for your body than being warm. (unless of course you're trying to burn up bacteria or viruses; but that should be short-term) certainly better for your apartment than warmth, anyway.
	🦇 3:20pm Handy Haversack: Hey, Chris. Dean, I noticed that when using the basic Playlist Search function, it does seem smart enough to return, say, both "Cure, the" and "The Cure," no matter which I search for, but I don't think it corrects for it when the DJs enter the names or in terms of needing to clicky-star again for the variant. KRISTEEEEEEEENNNNN!
	🦇 3:21pm Handy Haversack: You know what I find disgusting: brushing my teeth with warm water. That's just not right.
	🦇 3:22pm chris in the redwoods: agreed, Handy. eww.
	3:22pm HyperDose: @coel Are you endorsing the hot tub as an effective way to combat the rona?
	3:23pm Dean: Oh, man, I love Jesus & Mary Chain, The!
	🦇 3:24pm Handy Haversack: Me hell, the, too, Dean!
	3:26pm coelacanth∅: i was prescribed warm water (with astragalus extract in it) by an acupuncturist. warmth is yang. many people's illnesses are yin, if not their whole condition. also cold water constricts the stomach and small intestines, inhibiting any digestive processes going on and possibly causing muscular cramps.
	3:26pm Rick from SC: Headcoats, Thee?
	3:27pm Dean: I've had to go to the doctor for an issue with my yin yang, but I'm not sure that's what you're talking about, coelacanth∅.
	🦇 3:28pm Julie: I think I have Thee Headcoatees under T for Thee
	3:29pm Dean: I'm checking WorldCat to see if I can find a MARC record to determine whether or not catalogers treat Thee as non-filing. I doubt it.
	3:29pm TDK60: Remember, if you ever groom a young hepcat, remind them: it's not Swans, The; nor Cream, The. Thanks.
	3:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: It was the first (and for a long time the only) time I saw JAMC when Munki was released. I was excited but still I was stupidly expecting at least some of the chaos their previous visit to Finland had (1988, William Reid so drunk he fell off the chair he was trying to sit on while playing, resulting in a gig with all of two songs)
	3:31pm coelacanth∅: HyperD i'm not; but if you raise your body temperature enough it will certainly destroy the flu (corona) virus. that's what a fever is for. people have cured aids that way, but aids is many times more serious than covid, and the method used is draining blood out, heating it to...106ºf -? and returning it to the body. this has to be done at least once/week for many months, if not years, because you can only drain so much at a time.
	🦇 3:31pm chris in the redwoods: that's the idea exactly, coel. thanks for memory jog.
	3:33pm northguineahills: I saw JAMC in '94, Jim Reid was just a dick, at least Mazzy Star opened...
	3:33pm Dean: The record for Headcoats Down at Monroe County Public Library includes this "main entry" tag: 110 2 $aThee Headcoats,$eperformer,$ecomposer. No non-filing indicator. You'll find this shelved in the Ts.
	3:34pm HyperDose: That's fascinating stuff, coel. I've recently been reading up on the effects of hyperbaric oxygen treatments for cognitive disorders, CTE, & reverse aging. Promising stuff!
	3:34pm Nick: Chris, did you see that study where the guy took two sets of plants, and gave one only water that had been heated in the microwave, and one that had been room temperature, and observed the results?
	3:35pm Sylvia (France-NYC): Hi Julie and listeners too tired to listen tonight, I’ll catch up tomorrow on the archives. Have fun!
	3:35pm coelacanth∅: HyperD that said, the hot tub or sauna surely would help...but if you have the virus and aren't sick then you've created the immunity; and if you are sick it's probably pneumonia and much more needs to be done than that.
	3:35pm Nick: I think the study's focus was on whether or not the microwave's agitation of the water had some effect, rather than warm vs cold water... but your description of your coworker liking body temperature water reminds me of it.
	3:36pm Dean: I've seen J&MC only once, Hollywood Palladium. They were not loud enough. Same venue, roughly same time, saw The Cramps. They were loud enough.
	🦇 3:37pm woj: i know julie said she's not paying attention but i seem to remember seeing emily bezar in the basement at the second iteration of the knotting factory too. the old office, i seem to remember it being called. also saw kristeen young there a few times too. ah the good old days!
	3:38pm Nick: the snow here keeps melting though =(
	3:38pm coelacanth∅: i've heard of hyperbaric oxygen HyperD now i'm curious. oxygenation of the blood is our best defense against viruses in general. green foods, aerobic exercise.
	🦇 3:39pm Julie: Yes Woj probably same show!
	3:41pm coelacanth∅: some people say boiling water then letting it cool creates "dead water" - which is probably why a packet of tea will usually tell you to use "freshly boiled water". maybe it's because you decrease the oxygen levels in the water by boiling it.
	🦇 3:42pm Handy Haversack: Well, K8 was indeed dancing through the mic break, so I think we can say we know how'd she'd feel about this song's title!
	3:43pm coelacanth∅: (i'm curious about the results of that microwave test)
	3:43pm HyperDose: Key word "expensive". Of course people are already looking to profit from it. Wouldn't be surprised to see oxygen bars popping up within the next decade. www.popsci.com...
	🦇 3:45pm Handy Haversack: We saw Kristeen there, too, back in the mists of time.
	🦇 3:45pm chris in the redwoods: hey, Nick. no, i haven't seen that study.
	🦇 3:46pm Julie: that was a great venue
	🦇 3:47pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy. Looks like y'all got started without me.
	3:48pm Linda Lee: beautiful! lovely sounds, Julie! hi everyone!
	🦇 3:48pm Julie: hiya Phillippe! Hi Linda!
	3:49pm Linda Lee: how are you Phillippe?
	🦇 3:49pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey Linda Lee! How are ya, hon!?
	🦇 3:49pm Phillippe Bastille: All good here. You still in TX?
	3:50pm coelacanth∅: i'm pretty sure oxygen bars have been around for a while already. it strikes me as sad and "Orwellian" but most of all ludicrous. ...basically let's fuck up our host planet to the point the air is not adequate then make pure oxygen available to those who can afford it.
	🦇 3:51pm Phillippe Bastille: @coel I think it's kinda weird to be able to get the same thing in a bar and the back of an ambulance
	3:52pm Dean: Well, alcohol.
	🦇 3:52pm Handy Haversack: Yo, Phillippe! Me, I'd stock ambulances with gin, too. Just in case.
	3:52pm coelacanth∅: haha yeah and hi
	3:53pm Dean: On Oulipian Fourth Hour, you could play Nico, but not Lou Reed.
	3:55pm HyperDose: Not surprising as "they" did the same with our water supply. @Handy speaking of experiments, remember Neil and the yams? He did it for love!
	3:55pm Dean: I'd stock Saint Bernards with brandy.
	3:55pm TDK60: Hi, Linda L.
	3:56pm coelacanth∅: i lived with my father for a year after he'd had a stroke and he screwed something up and smoke came from the basement. he freaked out and called 911, even though it was nothing we couldn't have handled. anyway the ems people asked if i needed oxygen so i said, is it free? they said it's covered by insurance so i said Sure!
	🦇 3:56pm chris in the redwoods: hey, Linda Lee!
	3:57pm Nick: coel, its not that hard to make oxygen from water, salt, and an aluminum can, a plastic or glass cup, along with a set of wires and a usb charger, and a pair of scissors though.
	🦇 3:58pm Phillippe Bastille: I wonder what kind of shelf life oxygen has, particularly leave it out
	🦇 3:58pm Handy Haversack: HyperDose, you have no idea how often one of us explains our knowledge of a topic by saying, "I seen /Milk/!"
	3:58pm northguineahills: @coel: insert Space Balls reference here
	3:58pm coelacanth∅: Dean don't saint bernards come with brandy by default?
	3:59pm Cronbat: Barkeep, a double of nitrous, and an oxygen chaser
	🦇 3:59pm Phillippe Bastille: I think "St. Bernard" literally translates to "Brandy Dog"
	3:59pm Nick: phillipe it depends on the sort of oxygen you want really. if you take a jar of hydrogen peroxide in an actinated (tinted) bottle or dark bottle, and keep it in the fridge you can store that a long time, then take it out, and let it de-pressurize and you get some oxygen, you can do it more rapidly if you take something that can rust like an iron nail and pour it over, same with steel wool.
	4:00pm still b/p: When studies showed younger mouse blood has some age-reversing effects in older mice, I though a black market for young human blood would be reported soon after, including straight transactions and horror-movie types of harvesting, acquisitions and deals involving non-volunteer souces.
	4:00pm coelacanth∅: Nick i didn't know that. presumably you'd need a source of electricity too?
	4:00pm Dean: Perhaps they do, but once I've, uhm, self-medicated I need to replenish, don't I?
	🦇 4:00pm Julie: hiya still! Isn't that what part of the QAnon conspiracy is about?
	4:00pm Nick: still b/p, there are youth clinics that buy blood packs to insert into old people... my local red cross didn't opt out of selling to them so i stopped donating.
	🦇 4:01pm Phillippe Bastille: @nick well put. Probably I should not be wearing the N95 at the moment to get the full effect
	🦇 4:02pm Julie: Nick here in the US?
	🦇 4:02pm Phillippe Bastille: @Julie if it isn't we could start that rumor and see how far it goes
	4:02pm Nick: Julie, yes, here in the US, they started in California then branched out when it became popular.
	4:02pm Cronbat: Air is also a bountiful source of oxygen, ~21%
	🦇 4:03pm Handy Haversack: Oh, hello, Faces. The HairLympics have been postponed, but we will certainly keep your application on file.
	4:03pm Nick: Cronbat the thing is, air also contains other stuff =) if you can scrub that stuff out of your air with some silver oxide or some ozone or some energized aluminum plates... yay ^_^
	🦇 4:03pm Phillippe Bastille: @cronbat that's just the regular oxygen. we like the designer stuff
	4:04pm HyperDose: @still b/p my thoughts exactly. PopSci must be owned by Bezos or Gates. The plot thickens...like blood? There we go, brought it home. @Handy I hope you know how lucky you are. I quote TV show lines to my cat and he shows me his butt.
	4:04pm TDK60: Love this ol' Faces stuff.
	🦇 4:04pm Phillippe Bastille: This is a great board today. I feel very science-y at the moment
	4:05pm Nick: Juli, here's one of the ones that shut down, but that basically led to just re-packaging it with different claims. https://www.businessinsider.com/young-blood-transfusions-ambrosia-shut-down-2019-6
	4:05pm coelacanth∅: certainly no round-earthers here today
	🦇 4:05pm Julie: I remember stories about Keith Richards getting his blood cleaned and put back in him? Was that a real thing?
	4:05pm Nick: coel, even the door to door missionaries that come by agree that it's more of a square... 4 corners and all ^_^
	4:06pm Dean: Just now listening in to a presentation about quantum technologies and the law.
	4:06pm Nick: Julie, thats what Dialysis does. Usually they wait until your kidneys are weak or failing before they give it to you. but if you know, live a hard life stye like he did, maybe its worth investing in?
	4:06pm Cronbat: PB : I'm looking forward to the Gwynneth Paltrow oxygen
	4:07pm coelacanth∅: haha...square, or cubical, like wombat poop?
	4:07pm northguineahills: My father had a stroke checks my age exactly at my current age. But he ate a traditional american diet. I didn't inherit his vascular proclivities, and when given a choice, I'm 90% veggie...., so I should be fine....
	4:07pm Nick: coel, i don't have wombats in my fridge, so i guess i can't say?
	4:08pm still b/p: Someone has to ask. The blood from Paltrow's enterprise -- what does...it...smell...like....?
	4:08pm coelacanth∅: i'll have the Betty White blood please.
	🦇 4:08pm Julie: hey there NGH!
	4:09pm HyperDose: @ngh those daily walks help too!
	4:09pm Nick: Not sure, she was never as pretty as that canadian actress I liked.
	🦇 4:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Speaking of science-y, I'm attempting to rewrite a sentence that uses the term "isotropic curriculum". Anyone have a clue about what in the hell that means?
	🦇 4:09pm Julie: is it a prog rock album?
	🦇 4:10pm Phillippe Bastille: This Eliza Rickman is great!
	4:10pm Nick: Phillipe, nope, no clue, but if you take the words on their own meaning, it sounds like the curriculum doesn't change in temperature or pressure throughout and keeps a steady boring pace?
	4:11pm coelacanth∅: speaking of having a stroke, i need to shovel my car out at some point. if i can find it.
	4:11pm Nick: coel, just buy a new car.
	4:11pm northguineahills: yeah, Hyperdose. The last time my cholesteral was checked it was on the lower side.
	4:12pm northguineahills: @coel: better find it and dig it out before it ices over....
	🦇 4:12pm Handy Haversack: Changing shape, Phillippe?
	🦇 4:12pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick Yeah, I tried looking at them individually but I only got more confused. It's used in the context of the factory model of learning. Not sure what that refers to either.
	4:13pm Nick: Coel, go binge watch that ice-road truckers show first so you know what to expect if your engine stops!! :) :) :)
	🦇 4:14pm Phillippe Bastille: @Handy mebbe. I'm afraid to ask the writer...
	4:14pm Nick: phillipe, thefactory model of learning, again no clue, but the words suggest that it is divided into segments such as math, and history, similar to ford's assembly line where compartmentalization is present more than interdisciplinary studies?
	4:14pm Dean: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED608976.pdf
	🦇 4:16pm Phillippe Bastille: That's exactly the document that it was pulled from!
	4:16pm Nick: As long as we're all asking questions... Anyone know much about 3 speed manual transmissions from chevy/gm in 1955? I seem to have bought one recently and suspect it's a manual.
	4:16pm Cronbat: isotropic = applied in a consistent manner ?
	4:16pm Dean: So I figured.
	🦇 4:19pm Phillippe Bastille: I'm trying to change it into plain language to explain the next iteration of that particular system design. Failing miserably. But I'm having fun here.
	🦇 4:20pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Julie and Dark Side. Walked into town for a dental check-up. Not a sign of a single jay, cardinal, wren, sparrow, nuthatch, chickadee, titmouse, goose, hawk, eagle, etc. Must be hunkered down somewhere today, looking for groundhog prognostications.
	🦇 4:20pm Phillippe Bastille: Can't help you on the transmission. Did they have automatics in 1955?
	4:20pm Dean: Given the context of the paragraph in which the term occurs, I'm guessing it refers to a pedagogy and curriculum (a sequence of courses or phases of instruction) that is more or less identical for all students. But who are the students? People in a classroom? Or machines?
	4:21pm Nick: Automatics existed in 1955, yes.
	🦇 4:21pm Phillippe Bastille: @KFHP just about every single one of those is in our yard today
	🦇 4:21pm chris in the redwoods: i remember my friend having a old chevy pickup with "three on the tree" but that's as far as i can go.
	4:22pm northguineahills: if you run out of anti-freeze, vodka will do in a pinch (at least for Russians in Siberia, wouldn't recommend it for our cars).
	4:22pm still b/p: Ahh, been a long long time since I drove anything with three-on-the-tree shifting. Some were still made in the 70s.
	4:22pm Cronbat: Look for a filler tube on that transmission
	4:22pm Dean: So, teacher stands in front of class occupied by students, and provides datum or concept X, followed by Y, followed by Z. This is, perhaps, the traditional model of classroom pedagogy?
	4:25pm TDK60: Well, well.
	4:26pm Dean: Analogous to an assembly line in a factory, as Nick points out above. "Isotropic" because everybody (every unit) gets the same components, X, Y & Z.
	4:26pm northguineahills: Didn't think this was Sly and the Family Stone.
	4:26pm spodiodi: hi Julie! hi Souls! happy tuesday
	🦇 4:26pm Phillippe Bastille: Students in this context are people in any learning environment, whether classroom, on the web, in a simulator, using an eReader, etc. The project is to collect experience APIs from all learning events and be able to tie them back to competency achievement.
	🦇 4:26pm Julie: hiya spodi!
	🦇 4:27pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey spodi!
	🦇 4:27pm chris in the redwoods: ahoy hoy, spodi.
	4:29pm TDK60: ...somebody get me a notary public, that Sly song is still great. write that down, stamp it.
	4:29pm dreamyandseedy: i wish someone would reissue this album and the rest of the opal catalog!
	4:30pm northguineahills: what dreamyandseedy said....
	4:30pm coelacanth∅: i don't know about the timeframe but the electroglide used in some chevies was basically a 2-speed automatic with the 2nd speed sort of a sliding ratio. i've heard of that concept applied to a 3-speed, i think in mercedes, but maybe chevy/gm did it too. (or first, probably)
	🦇 4:31pm Julie: hi dreamy! I have the "early recordings" one as well but it is not as good as Happy nightmare
	🦇 4:31pm Handy Haversack: Yo, spodi!
	🦇 4:31pm Handy Haversack: (TDK60, that'll be two dollars.)
	4:32pm coelacanth∅: hey spodi!
	4:33pm Dean: "The Factory Models of the 1900's had a significant and lasting impact on the educational curriculum and testing frameworks developed in America's public schools. The child was viewed as a product, the school was designed as an educational factory, and standardized testing became the quality control mechanism for measuring educational progress. The effects of these structures can still be seen in today's public school organizations. Breaking free of the limiting effects of standardized testing requires changes in teacher education, school organization, curriculum frameworks, and especially, the methods of assessment currently used in public schools. Viewing assessment as 'reflective inquiry' rather than the measurement of accumulated facts, requires time, a new perspective, and dialogue among educators. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR]"--Serafini, F. W. (2002). Dismantling the Factory Model of Assessment. Reading & Writing Quarterly, 18(1), 67–85.
	4:33pm dreamyandseedy: wonder what is holding up that reissue, if i need to write a letter i will! I used to not love early recordings, it's so different to HNB, but it's grown on me and now i love it. there's also some possibly bootleg edition of early recordings vol 2 i think
	4:33pm spodiodi: I'm familiar with GM Powerglides, and turbo hydramatics.... just found the gear ratios for both: Power Glide 1st-1.76; 2nd-1.0 Turbo 350 1st-2.52; 2nd-1.52, 3rd-1.0 Turbo 400 1st-2.48; 2nd-1.48, 3rd-1.0
	4:34pm coelacanth∅: "chevy/gm" to me suggests a pick-up truck?
	🦇 4:34pm Julie: ooooh dreamy that I did not know
	🦇 4:34pm Phillippe Bastille: Thank you Dean! Cutting and pasting...
	4:34pm Dean: More where that came from, Phillippe.
	4:34pm spodiodi: hi hi, Phillippe, chris, Handy, coelacanth∅!
	4:35pm dreamyandseedy: i can send you the files if i want, i found them digging around the internet for other opal material. there is a great HNB-esque song called "Lisa's funeral" on there
	4:36pm coelacanth∅: is it "powerglide"? that sounds right. what's "electroglide" then?! something
	🦇 4:36pm Julie: yes please julie at wfmu org
	4:36pm spodiodi: electraglide is HD
	4:37pm spodiodi: duckduckgo.com...
	🦇 4:37pm Mx. Granny (e/em): this is where i meant to be! just called Kitten Sparkles Julie! heh
	🦇 4:37pm Julie: hiya mx granny!
	4:38pm coelacanth∅: okay. just confused. thanks spodi
	🦇 4:39pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Looking at this setlist...work has made me miss a heck of a show. Buke and Gass! I think they're Buke and Gase now?
	4:39pm coelacanth∅: interesting version. good, but not as good!
	🦇 4:39pm Julie: Heya Rich! I'm not sure.I know it's pronounced Gase but not sure they actually changed it
	🦇 4:40pm Julie: although why it wasn't Gase to start with I dunno
	🦇 4:40pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Dean. I'm pretty much having those issues on every page of that document. Trying to explain things in a simpler way when I don't understand them myself has been exyhausting
	🦇 4:41pm Rich in Bay Ridge: It's a guitar-bass hybrid so they were faithful to the spelling and not the pronunciation? I have a friend who is a good Ukelele player and he insists on calling his instrument an "OOkelele"
	4:42pm Dean: I hear you. I see 264 pages of fine print, very few citations to authority, lots of tabular and illustrative data.
	🦇 4:42pm Julie: but I think the guys NAME is Gase isn't it
	🦇 4:42pm Julie: you're right the more recent releases are Gase
	🦇 4:44pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I think his name is Sanchez. Both members first names...Aron and Arone. Almost as weird when Built to Spill had both Brett Nelson and Brett Netson in the band
	4:45pm Nick: Hmn. So Handy and Odi both know a bit about transmissions. How do I go about identifying just which sort of manual from 1955 i got? (do the numbers on the side help, so far i only found the date and day shift stamp)
	4:47pm northguineahills: That album cover for Pussy almost looks like the poster for Hausu....
	🦇 4:47pm Phillippe Bastille: Yep, that's pretty much my life at the moment. only 3 more years to retirement...
	4:48pm Dean: Phillippe, Looks like searching for "jerry gordon" "total learning architecture" ...will generate other work by one of the primary authors. Maybe some guidance there?
	4:48pm Nick: correction ( I've found lots of stamped numbers on the sides, only identified one of them)
	4:49pm Nick: Phil,won't retirement be sort of boring?
	🦇 4:52pm Handy Haversack: I think spodi and coela are the transmission experts (and Aamco). All I know is how to drive 'em and that replacing them is expensive. I have heard that Europe and the UK will soon all be automatics since there's no reason to have a manual transmission with an electric engine.
	4:52pm coelacanth∅: Julie Who has the dirty mind?! nobody mentioned astroglide!
	4:52pm doctorjazz: Hello!
	🦇 4:53pm Julie: coela, I don't think I did either did I? hi Dr jazz!
	4:53pm Nick: handy, oh okay =( i will try to say coel's name in front of a mirror until they help then ^_^ coel , coel, coel, ! coel, coel coel!
	🦇 4:54pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Dean, I'll have to look up Jerry Gordon. I have access to a number of folks who worked on that report but they tend to work and talk on a whole different level than this here boy.
	4:54pm spodiodi: i was trying to work it in, coel, but resisted
	🦇 4:54pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick I am willing to run that risk...
	4:55pm Nick: so this transmission 's to a car, and it weighs like maybe 60-70 pounds? but i dunno more than that... it's chevy or gm orange paint, and has the gm logo on the side. and it's dated for dayshift 1955
	4:56pm coelacanth∅: hello doctor! ...well Julie you said "...and other kinds of glide...you guys and your dirty talk"!
	4:56pm Nick: come to think of it, mary queen of scots never appears when you say her name in front of a mirror three times x.x maybe that's the wrong approach.
	🦇 4:57pm Julie: I was only teasing... but car oil can be very messy
	4:57pm Nick: not if you let it run out...
	4:58pm spodiodi: to the future, Handy i worked for my friend's father's torque converter warehouse/biz automatic transmission fluid is very very messy
	4:59pm coelacanth∅: no i'm sorry Nick but i'm not an expert either not by many miles... i know how to drive them, take care of them, and (in the case of my yamaha xj550) break them.
	4:59pm Nick: spodi, btw, the car i bought has a 3800 stall type torque convertor, i'm told. is there an easy way to tell from looking at it? a number somewhere?
	4:59pm spodiodi: especially in your hair :-B
	5:00pm Nick: coela, okay, thanks anyways... i'll just keep reading not-useful search results on google that talk about 4 speeds.
	5:00pm Nick: 4 speed results don't help at all wit my 3 speed... but google just isnt reliable =(
	5:00pm spodiodi: coel, i had an '81 xj550 (still have the shop manual for it) -- i feel like we must have talked about this before
	5:01pm coelacanth∅: i mean, i know something about what vehicles had what... something, but very minimal. i don't know how to fix them.
	🦇 5:01pm Phillippe Bastille: @spodi two of my sons are car guys. our old house had a garage and they liked to work in there. One of them decided to put a cracked battery right on the floor in a corner. that didn't turn out as well as you'd think it would.
	5:01pm Nick: ah brb, the guy delivering the furniture is due soon... i had best turn on some lights
	5:03pm doctorjazz: Hey, Coel, and all you other Princess and Princesses of Darkness.
	5:03pm spodiodi: Nick, no se -- i'd guess not/would depend on the manufacturer (all stall converters are aftermarket, afaik, eh?) -- and i don't remember what markings, if any were on the converters i was handling at that time
	5:03pm spodiodi: was like 35+ years ago :-B
	5:03pm coelacanth∅: we did spodi. same one i had
	🦇 5:04pm chris in the redwoods: shoot. must run an errand as quickly as possible to return to the musics...
	5:04pm ike p: ooh - i like this...toss depeche mode in a blender with cris cornell and get deadmau5 the remix
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: oooh furniture. I need to buy a bed myself. awww hurry back Chris!
	5:04pm spodiodi: Phillippe, hopefully you don't go barefoot in the garage too often
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: hiya Ike!
	🦇 5:05pm Phillippe Bastille: that's why we don't have a garage where we moved...
	5:05pm ike p: hiya julie! i've been boppin around doing household admin, thanks as always for an awesome soundtrack :)
	5:05pm Nick: spodi, well, it's an older model anyways, its a 75 nova i bought for parts (my 78 has fire damage) but it came from a race driver that was cutting down on projects and its got a stall converter, th 400, and a strange rear axle. allegedly. it'd be nice if i could look at parts and numbers and know for sure =)
	🦇 5:06pm Julie: You're welcome, Ike!
	5:06pm HyperDose: Oooh what is THIS? I dig I dig
	5:06pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Seefeel!
	5:06pm spodiodi: cool. coel. those engines were solid! (at least much more so than their suspensions :)
	5:07pm spodiodi: i like how you think, Phillippe
	🦇 5:07pm Julie: Cha Cha's recommendation!
	5:07pm Nick: phil, i specifically got a place with a garage because i was tired of 80 dollar oil changes that require an appointment ^^ and i want to be able to do "light maintenance" without my hoa or landlord complaining.... (to me light maintenance is anything one person can lift themself, and my hoa doesn't define it... so...)
	5:07pm spodiodi: sounds good, Cha Cha
	5:09pm HyperDose: Stay glorious, Cha Cha!
	5:09pm spodiodi: i applaud your taste, Nick... i've had 4 novas
	5:10pm Nick: Past tense though?
	5:10pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Soul Mates! 😎✌❤🌏
	5:10pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thanks! I'm glad people here like this, what a pity I can't remember who recommended them.
	🦇 5:10pm Julie: hey there Scott!
	5:10pm HyperDose: Good morning, Scott!
	🦇 5:10pm Julie: Cha Cha I thought it was you! You heard Insides and you thought of them
	5:11pm spodiodi: a '69 4dr, 2 '73 2dr, and a '76 3dr hatchback 2 of my friends had novas too -- one of which had a 75or 76 that was pretty well worked (aand was often catching fire)
	5:11pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:10 Julie: yes I guess so, but where I heard of them the first time escapes me.
	5:11pm spodiodi: </cartalk> g'day Scott67
	5:11pm Scott67: Hey HyperD! 😎
	5:12pm Scott67: G'day spodi mate! 😎✌
	5:12pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: what I meant @5:10 I can't remember who recommended them to me
	🦇 5:13pm Julie: ahhhhhh
	5:14pm spodiodi: liking this "The Love Language"
	🦇 5:16pm Phillippe Bastille: Nova -- sort of Spanish for "won't go"
	5:17pm spodiodi: indeed, PB 8^D
	🦇 5:17pm Handy Haversack: Some well-formed cartalk there, spodi. Yo, Scott, me cobber! I think I saw you with beer already. Now you're likely on the coffee, and I'm on the rye! Phillippe: ZING!
	5:17pm spodiodi: no va :-B
	5:17pm coelacanth∅: Phillippe @505 -because it dissolved?
	5:18pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: This reminds me, I gotta get that From Genesis to Revelation mono reissue immediately. The original mono is another story my wallet finds no words or cash for.
	🦇 5:18pm Julie: doesn't a star going nova mean it explodes?
	5:19pm Dean: Archive.org has a manual library where they host manuals. Here's one for 1946-55 Hydra-Matics, i.e., not manual. https://archive.org/details/kent-moore-hydra-matic-1946-55/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22general+motors%22
	5:19pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I hope the playlist won't explode as I have clicky-starred all songs
	5:20pm coelacanth∅: hey Scott! ... i had a 75 nova too. tough car.
	5:20pm HyperDose: Oh to be a fly on the wall during a Cocteau Twins recording session
	5:21pm northguineahills: I step out and missed Seefeel!!!!!
	🦇 5:21pm Phillippe Bastille: @coel wound up with some really weird cracks in the concrete and the cinder blocks in that corner started to degrade.
	5:21pm spodiodi: i forgot a 3rd friend (who had two). nice coel from wikpedia (i had to look when Julie asked): "A nova is a transient astronomical event that causes the sudden appearance of a bright, apparently "new" star, that slowly fades over several weeks or many months."
	5:22pm Scott67: Handy, you're not wrong just heating the espresso machine now. Enjoy your drop of choice cobber. 😎🍵🥃
	🦇 5:22pm Handy Haversack: Juliesong!
	5:23pm Scott67: Coel! 😎🖖
	5:23pm HyperDose: Clay plays The Payback by James Brown which clocks in at a whopping 7:38. Love those long jams.
	5:23pm coelacanth∅: i carried a spare battery in my '69 volvo for a while and of course it fell over and of course i didn't find out for a month or 2. lots of dissolved stuff.
	🦇 5:24pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick the oldest one has a four bay shop now and is buying a house that has a garage with room for two lifts. He's where I go to for oil changes and stuff, but I still cover his guys' labor. Once a dad, always a dad
	5:24pm northguineahills: I have everything from Seefeel and related projects like Scala and Disjecta...
	5:25pm HyperDose: My dad's MG had rust holes in the floor. It was fun seeing the road whizz by beneath your feet. Also the way the car shook was like getting a Thai massage.
	🦇 5:25pm Rich in Bay Ridge: @NGH I guess I have to go down that Seefeel hole now
	5:26pm Nick: yay... the furniture arrived... and its bigger than the photos for once.
	5:27pm Dean: Yeah, but not Ringo so much...? Keith on "Happy"? See upthread for my follow-up suggestion, way near the top (in my view) of the comments board.
	5:27pm spodiodi: i ruined a couple of shirts (and a bunch of other things with battery acid) "Little Johnny was a chemist. Little Johnny is no more... what he thought was H20 was H2S04"
	5:27pm Nick: Phil, nice... thats one thing i dislike about my old cars is if i find a shop to work on em, when i get it there it sits for a few months ( 3 of em have been at shops since sep, sep, and oct and not much work done yet . mostly because its real work to work on them ..so i've been buying other cheap cars when one breaks down, and waiting half a year on average for repairs.
	🦇 5:28pm Julie: do you mean the artists with no "e" in their names?
	🦇 5:28pm Phillippe Bastille: @coel transmission fluid spilled in the garage meant that we could never really get the paint to stick right on the floor. We weren't "paint the garage floor people" for the most part, but our realtor thought we would have more luck selling a place that didn't look like a Superfund site
	5:28pm spodiodi: and i once got in trouble for inappropriate application of H2O2
	5:28pm Nick: I kind of want to paint my garage floor too.but first i need to move everything out =P
	5:29pm northguineahills: It wouldn't be the Dark Night of the Soul w/o Sir Elton....
	5:29pm Nick: i've seen some nice garage conversions to gyms online recently... if i make it too nice i might not want my car in there anymore.
	5:29pm Scott67: I had just typed G'day to all on board individually, but scrolled too far & refreshed the whole lot to deletesville! I really need a COFFEE!!! 😁
	5:29pm Dean: Yes, no "e," but that's only because of the Perec book that pulled that off.
	5:30pm Nick: scott, don't worry, coffee isn't in shortage the way electronics and toilet paper tend to be. not yet...
	5:30pm spodiodi: that torque converter warehouse sent at least a couple of kids home each day covered in ATF. (like i said, in one's hair was the worst).
	5:30pm Dean: I mean, if you made it "x" you wouldn't exclude too many bands. Or maybe play only bands with "x" in their names!
	5:30pm northguineahills: @spodi, what would be the inappropriate application of hydrogen peroxide?
	5:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:29 Scott67: It's the thought that counts plus a cup of coffee :)
	🦇 5:30pm Handy Haversack: We ordered a shelf, hoping that it will allow us to set up the stereo again -- and still have the TV (a 27" CRT monster from the nineties[?]) set up as well. I think it will work. But then I got scared that it would suddenly be COVID delayed. But got a message today that it had shipped! (AND that I had earned 467 Audiolab points!)
	5:31pm Nick: northguinea, h2o2 can turn your hair orange, or give too much oxygen to a flame, etc.
	5:31pm Dean: Or bands with numerals in their names, but I feel like maybe that's been done...
	🦇 5:31pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick my oldest and youngest both race and are racing instructors. They get beater 3 series beemers and put their racing components on and run them till they kill 'em or wreck 'em. There was always a car leaking fluids, even when they were all in one piece
	5:31pm Nick: Dean oh that reminds me of a song i listened to recently. the guy's name didn't have a number, but because of the way arabic was transliterated it showed up as a 3 instead of an a`
	🦇 5:32pm Phillippe Bastille: Never heard this Lanterns -- sounds sweet
	5:32pm spodiodi: bleaching the tail i was rocking in ~1986 ngh (catholic school; against dress code)
	5:32pm coelacanth∅: haha Hyper my mom's vw had that feature
	5:32pm Nick: phil, i've got a spare 2.0 74 alfa romeo motor that leaks... the prior owners put puddy in to plug the leak long enough for each run
	🦇 5:32pm Handy Haversack: Phillippe, I live by, paddle on, and represent the people's struggle against polluters to the government for a Superfund site. Remember: you can't spell it without "superfun"!
	5:32pm spodiodi: ^ ngh (sorry)
	🦇 5:33pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Hi, Julie! Just in from a long snowy walk. This Lanterns on the Lake album got all the attention this last year but I actually think you might love their previous one - "Beings" - even more. We adore it and first heard it on Irene's show. For a bonus, it was released on Summer's B'day!
	5:33pm Nick: It'd be fun to take racing lessons, the local racing clubs require you to earn in a rental, and those have height and weight limits, and i was like, um, why do we have a heighth limit? but that's life...
	🦇 5:33pm Phillippe Bastille: @Handy good old Olin Corporation...
	5:34pm Nick: hmn brb, i need to move the laptop to the new furniture. gotta get my moneys worth lol.
	5:34pm Dean: Nick, I had no idea that Mojave 3 was Arabic!
	5:34pm HyperDose: @Handy I assume you've seen It's Always Sunny?
	5:35pm northguineahills: ahhh, 1986, when I would walk around Japanese parks w/ my boombox rocking music, such as, Genesis (the only cassette I had for 3 years).
	5:35pm Nick: Dean, it wasn't mojabe... it was a Lebanese song about a guy whose love is too big for his heart.
	5:35pm Dean: (I was joking, which is the case a good chunk of the time.)
	🦇 5:37pm Phillippe Bastille: Sounds familiar, Nick.
	5:38pm luka: i’m late!! the meetings were merciless today. but that Lanterns on the Lake is right on time for a bandcamp friday. i also just accidentally posted on the main show’s board. long day.
	5:39pm Nick: Phil, the song was something like 3ahbat or a3hbat. i forget which a is a 3 when it transliterated. sung by a lebanese guy named Gemal or Jemal
	5:39pm Scott67: @5:30. Cheers Photocopy!
	5:39pm coelacanth∅: Dean you're not comparing Ringo's singing to Keith's are you?! i Love Ringo and he's an excellent drummer but his singing is pretty terrible. Keith's singing is at least as good as the main singer in many bands. much better than some famous singers. (lookin' at J Mascis, Rundgren, J.Richman, Cat Power, etc etc)
	5:39pm Miles of Middle Texas: Hey.
	🦇 5:40pm Julie: hi Luka, Hi Miles!
	5:40pm ike p: greetings luka! bummer of a day, take a seat by the fire and we'll send ya something warm :)
	5:40pm Nick: hey miles. do you feel envy for all of our snow?
	5:40pm coelacanth∅: (actually i guess Ringo's is better than those examples also)
	🦇 5:41pm Handy Haversack: Only bits and bobs, HyperDose.
	🦇 5:42pm Julie: Hi S&M&S I missed ya popping in there
	🦇 5:43pm Rich in Bay Ridge: @coel I think at least one of those singers you derided is a better drummer than Ringo. And I like how he sings better too (JM)
	5:46pm Miles of Middle Texas: Snow problem Nick(it's like 75f here now.)If I was wearing a snow board I would be
	🦇 5:46pm Julie: oh Miles that sounds perfect
	5:47pm HyperDose: @Handy Ah ok. Any time there's a pause between tracks, I think of the episode where they started a podcast and bribed Cricket with a rotisserie chicken. There's a part where Frank goes "dead aiiiir!" kills me every time. p.s. not a knock against you Julie, I'm reminded of it during any sort of pause.
	5:47pm Mr. Nobody: A little PF makes the day better
	5:48pm TDK60: Mr. Leitch.
	🦇 5:48pm Julie: oh man poor Cricket
	5:49pm spodiodi: indeed, Julie
	5:49pm Miles of Middle Texas: Now it's very pleasant. It's the 9 months of summer that's the sucky part.
	🦇 5:50pm Julie: ooh spodi that's a nice fire you've got burning there
	🦇 5:51pm Phillippe Bastille: Gotta run. Thanks for a great show, Julie. Bye everyone! Dean, thank you again for your help. I had literally reached the throwing up my hands point on working through some that academic writing -- totally out of patience at the moment. Have had way too many conversations with that group where I knew less after asking questions than I did beforehand...
	🦇 5:51pm Julie: bye Phillippe take care!
	5:51pm coelacanth∅: Rich maybe, maybe not. Mascis' tempo is all over the place; but how to compare 2 very different styles of music? Ringo's tempo is always spot-on and almost never made a mistake. he was nearly flawless. but then, i wasn't comparing drummers.
	5:51pm spodiodi: we've been watching "Foyle's War" (PBS?) and i can't stop thinking about the McPoyles from sunny
	🦇 5:51pm Handy Haversack: Later on, Phillippe!
	5:51pm northguineahills: You know the actor that plays Cricket is the head writer of Always Sunny?
	5:52pm coelacanth∅: tchau Phillippe
	🦇 5:52pm Phillippe Bastille: keep them sparrows fed, Handy
	5:52pm spodiodi: ciao, Phillippe. thanks, Julie .. there are some peeps-smores makings on the cawfee table
	🦇 5:53pm Julie: everybody sing!
	5:53pm northguineahills: I'm off for a walk, and might as well pick up some grub.. Will be listening!
	🦇 5:53pm Julie: enjoy, ngh!
	5:53pm HyperDose: Take care Phillippe and ngh!
	🦇 5:54pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Georgie Girl!
	5:54pm spodiodi: watch out for the tourists, ngh
	5:54pm HyperDose: And yes, David Hornsby. His mind is fascinating. Also love Jimmi Simpson.
	5:56pm spodiodi: Les Hamsters made me giggle as well, Julie :D
	5:56pm coelacanth∅: time for me to move some snow. my goal is a path to my car and do the car tomorrow, but maybe i'll keep going.
	5:57pm coelacanth∅: (all i can see of the car is the top 9" or so of the driver door)
	🦇 5:57pm Handy Haversack: Pitter patter, coela! We'll send St. Bernards just in case!
	5:57pm spodiodi: good luck, stay warm, and don't overexert your bad self, coel \m/
	5:58pm spodiodi: new theme recs, eh? hmm
	5:58pm coelacanth∅: well - it's groundhog day, so if i kick the bucket out there i'll just start the day again tomorrow.
	5:58pm northguineahills: I get along better in the projects then w/ tourists
	5:59pm Nick: Juli you're short? I'm like 2 meters tall ^_^ (exactly.)
	5:59pm Scott67: The Rainbow Lorikeet are going for it this morning Julie! 😎
	5:59pm HyperDose: That's the spirit. Take care, coel!
	5:59pm Dean: Ran out to do shopping for the last twenty or so. No, coel, no comparison. Only suggesting that Ringo sang so rarely with the FF, just as Keith sang rarely with RS. That's the conceit for this hour: not the regular vocalist.
	5:59pm Nick: Yeah... your car died to that semi slightly after mine burned to that fire... 2020 is not a good year for cars i guess ^_^
	6:00pm Scott67: Coel, stay safe mate. 😎✌
	6:00pm spodiodi: i'll see if Bill Murray is available, c∅
	6:00pm TDK60: I feel funny.
	6:00pm Dean: Ha! But I'm not hearing "Happy"...?
	6:01pm Dean: An evolving playlist...
	6:03pm Scott67: Okay so things are burning down here, in Western Australia anyway. 😐
	🦇 6:03pm chris in the redwoods: back! who's snoring?
	6:03pm Nick: Oh! i forgot there was a movie i wanted to watch bill muray in where he plays some old grumpy russian neighbor and an annoying neighbor's kid won't leave him alone until he becomes his only friend or something? dennis the menance but with mr wilson being lonely i guess?
	🦇 6:04pm Julie: yeah I mixed up my stones songs there
	6:06pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:03 chris in the redwoods: not 100% sure but I think it was Brian Jones doing the ZZZZZZZZZ. A trickier question is, what Stones song is playing faintly behind that snoring bit? IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!
	6:06pm Dean: This FM tune was co-written by the late, great Peter Bardens, Camel's keyboard wizard.
	6:07pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: No, not Brian Jones , Bill Wyman was the maestro who we just heard not only singing but also snoring.
	6:08pm HyperDose: @Nick St. Vincent [2014]
	🦇 6:09pm Handy Haversack: Mike Mills usually did one song per album ... just in case you needed some R.E.M. (and who doesn't?!).
	🦇 6:09pm chris in the redwoods: haha! nice, Cha Cha! i was just joking, which is a mistake with DJs ;-) you lot never fail to impress.
	6:13pm Nick: Hyper Dose , Ah thanks!
	6:13pm luka: H A P P Y
	6:14pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:09 chris in the redwoods: even if no-one should include me in their pub quiz team, I love pointless trivia!
	6:14pm Nick: eh. the music stopped x.x i wonder if my internet died
	6:14pm spodiodi: annnnd we're back
	🦇 6:14pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Well that wasn't the usual lead singer
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: believe it or not I don't own a single REM record. couple songs on comps
	6:14pm Dean: Phillippe @5:51, You're welcome. Your plight reminds me of a post today on Brian Leiter's philosophy blog, a link to an account of the differences between the writing styles of political philosophers and political theorists. I'm guessing the document you're working with is most like the latter: https://200proofliberals.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-argument-in-pocket-move-bullying.html
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: how long was it down?
	6:15pm Nick: julie, i only have their cd... i still need to buy a record player but i haven't found one for sale that will deliver =)
	🦇 6:15pm Rich in Bay Ridge: 3 seconds?
	🦇 6:15pm Julie: oh that's not bad
	6:15pm spodiodi: maybe 20 seconds or less, Julie
	🦇 6:15pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I heard a woman singing
	🦇 6:15pm Handy Haversack: 5 seconds?
	6:15pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:14 Julie: 10 sec says I
	6:15pm Dean: I have zero REM, but Michael Stipe appears on a Golden Palominos album or two.
	6:16pm spodiodi: i'll revise that to 10 seconds or less, based on Rich's and Handy's (and Cha Cha's) reports
	🦇 6:16pm Julie: i think it may have been my net that dropped for a brief moment
	🦇 6:16pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I have way more Minus 5 and Baseball Project albums with Mike and Peter than I do REM
	6:17pm Danny in Poughkeepsie: Hi Julie. I haven’t heard your show since you did the overnight. I missed it. Great show!!
	🦇 6:17pm Julie: hi there Danny! Thank you!
	🦇 6:18pm Handy Haversack: I have the full R.E.M. discography. But I did grow up in Atlanta. First concert. Also third and fifth. And then never again? NO idea why. I guess "expense." But there is a LOT to love in that discography.
	🦇 6:18pm Julie: i need the stuff that sounds like radio free europe
	🦇 6:19pm chris in the redwoods: that's def the sweet spot, imo, Julie.
	6:20pm HyperDose: @Julie Coincidentally Eponymous was my first R.E.M. album (compilation) with Radio Free Europe. That song has such great energy.
	6:20pm Dean: I just acquired the complete works of Thomas Tallis. Renaissance choral, mostly.
	🦇 6:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: Haha, back inside earlier than planned. I was out shoveling and a dude with a plow on his pickup offered to give it a whack. Took him just a couple passes and five minutes to clean things right up. Good thing I had my wallet with me.
	6:22pm Dean: You could ask Dr. Brian May, astrophysicist, about the definition of nova and probably get a reasonably authoritative reply
	6:22pm HyperDose: One band I need to explore more is Steely Dan. Keep hearing good things, have no idea where to start.
	🦇 6:22pm Julie: hi Ken!
	🦇 6:22pm Julie: Ken can you stop by my house make sure the roof didn't collapse under the snow (YIKES) Hyper..AJA, you need AJA
	🦇 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie. I sent you some photos earlier today.
	🦇 6:23pm Julie: I saw, gorgeous!
	6:24pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:22 HyperDose: maybe in chronological order, that was not bad in my case actually.
	🦇 6:24pm chris in the redwoods: i'm no Dan expert, but why not begin with Aja, HyperDose?
	🦇 6:24pm chris in the redwoods: oh, oops. yes, Julie is the expert! :)
	🦇 6:24pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Aja and the Royal Scam are as deep as I'm willing to go with SD
	🦇 6:24pm Handy Haversack: Nice, Ken! A guy offered to help me dig out the car, and I was basically all "you keep walking. Pally." Julie: Chronic Town, Murmur, Fables of the Reconstruction. Though I would argue there are many other great ones.
	6:24pm Cronbat: Dean: Tallis is really splendid. Spem in Alium is deservedly his best.
	6:24pm Dean: Oooooh, Steely Dan is one of those bands in my twisted world. I take them in very, very, extremely tiny doses. I'd start with the first album. Maybe Pretzel Logic, then, Katy Lied, or Royal Scam. But don't get near Aja.
	🦇 6:25pm Julie: I bought AJA one day because it was cheap and I was like, I already know HALF of these songs
	6:25pm Dean: Have to agree, Cronbat. Somebody should do a 12" dance mix of Spem in Alium.
	6:25pm HyperDose: Aja it is, then The Royal Scam, then I'll go chronologically. Thanks so much! :)
	6:28pm Cronbat: Hearing Spem in Alium the first time ( on the radio) literally made me stop, sit down, and concentrate on listening
	6:28pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Speaking of Brians, I find it odd that while Brian Jones did do (early) backing vocals on The Rolling Stones' records, never a lead vocal proper.
	6:29pm doctorjazz: I like Dan, particularly partial to the 1st 2 albums (when they were actually a band) Can't Buy a Thrill, and Pretzel Logic,.
	6:30pm Dean: I think that was the case for me, too. Probably Wulstan's with The Clerkes of Oxenford: https://www.discogs.com/Thomas-Tallis-The-Clerkes-Of-Oxenford-Directed-By-David-Wulstan-The-Glories-Of-Tudor-Church-Music/release/3557497
	6:31pm Edna: I really like those ideas Dean had elsewhere on the comment board. You should use one of those.
	🦇 6:32pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Hoping for some Wings action in this set and no U2
	6:32pm Dane: I agree with Edna.
	🦇 6:32pm Julie: Sorry Rich no Wings but also no U2
	6:32pm HyperDose: This really is the year of The Kinks!
	6:33pm Scott67: Well Julie, I totally lost audio here a while ago. And refresh, reload only gets a second of sound then gone. Yet I can write to you? Thought it was my device, but dunno? 🙄
	🦇 6:34pm Rich in Bay Ridge: First thing that came to mind when I heard the concept "Joe English sang at least one song for Wings"
	🦇 6:35pm Julie: Scott I think I'm up and running again so it might be you
	🦇 6:35pm Julie: is everyone hearing Andy and his blow up doll?
	6:36pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:35 Julie: yes
	🦇 6:36pm Handy Haversack: Holy crap, getting these animals fed! I've never seen Shark Tank. And I have only a vague idea of what it is. But I'm just gonna say it! It's like Shark Tank! Or at least what my emotions say Shark Tank ought to be like. My emotions!
	6:36pm Dean: Yes.
	🦇 6:36pm Handy Haversack: Yes, Julie.
	🦇 6:37pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Yes. The rest of the song is pretty good...but that spoken word stuff is worse than the little vignettes on the Giles Giles & Fripp record
	🦇 6:37pm Julie: haha I kinda like that part
	🦇 6:37pm chris in the redwoods: yes, Julie. and oooo yeah, this....
	6:38pm doctorjazz: Her Satanic Majesties Request is making a comeback (never actually got much in the way of props, immediately dismissed as a Sgt Pepper's wannabe). I always liked it.
	6:38pm chresti: Hi Julie, I like the snowflakes! I've been listening in the shower.
	🦇 6:38pm Julie: hiya chresti!
	🦇 6:39pm Julie: I now have exactly ONE white stripes song
	6:40pm spodiodi: you're one up on me, Julie
	🦇 6:40pm Julie: if she sang all the time I'm sure I'd have more
	🦇 6:40pm Julie: I still do not know if they are siblings or married
	6:41pm Nick: meh. someone's shouting at another driver outside and i can't hear the music
	🦇 6:41pm Handy Haversack: I'm mainly hopeful it's not a political statement, Julie. (Kidding! I assume it's the order of magic they belong to!)
	6:42pm Dean: Married to each other, you mean. They could be siblings, and they could be married.
	🦇 6:42pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Is this the first time Quarterflash has been played on WFMU?
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: Well, I have played them before, but I can't speak to others. I'm sure they have
	6:42pm Scott67: Just swapped devices, I can get Jungle Room fine on both. But Drummer stream just won't stay linked, even sayingi I was offline. Yet here I am, but in silence?
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: yes, Dean, correct
	6:43pm Nick: ah... my neighbor is getting a rooms to go delivered by a big ole truck and they're trying to move it into a little old alleyway as they shout and them at what not to hit x.x
	6:43pm Dean: One of the songs I thought might end up here, perhaps another WFMU first, I dunno, is the one James Iha sings on a Smashing Pumpkins album. I think it's the only one...not sure.
	🦇 6:43pm Julie: oh no Scott that's very odd
	🦇 6:43pm Julie: I don't do pumpkins
	🦇 6:44pm Julie: I think White Stripes is the only one I didn't have an album by
	6:44pm Nick: oh those are some loud ole air brakes too... i guess i need some sound proofing foam on my walls.
	🦇 6:44pm Julie: so the other idea was bands with numbers in their name?
	🦇 6:44pm Handy Haversack: What did you do with the real Scott67, you infernal device!
	6:45pm Ande: Well, that guy Dean up there thought either bands without an e, bands with an x, or bands with numbers. So, for instance, Channel 3, but please not Blink 182.
	🦇 6:46pm Julie: I don't even know who Channel 3 is
	6:46pm Nick: julie, i have a casette by sixes sevens and nines, but it's not really the style of music you usually have on the show.
	🦇 6:46pm Julie: what kind of music is it, Nick?
	6:46pm Scott67: Handy, I'm still here, but only in spirit. 😆 Whith Shangri-la show providing sound track.
	🦇 6:47pm Julie: this song is making me sad
	🦇 6:47pm Julie: Scott are you using an iphone by any chance?
	6:47pm Dean: I wonder how hard it would be to come up with a list of bands whose managers have been sued for tax evasion. Channel 3 was an OC punk band with a pretty dang fine first album.
	6:47pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:42 Scott67: last summer a radio app (as if you could call mine a smartphone...) did it the other way around, did play drummer but not sheena. uninstalled the app and installed VLC media player with which all of them work - though you need to have the .pls files
	6:48pm Nick: julie, hmn. i would have guessed rock when i bought it, but the singer's vocals remind me more of that stevie ray guy i don't like.
	6:49pm Scott67: Nooo, not an i anything in the house. 2 Samsung Tablets. May try my cheap phone
	6:49pm Dean: "You Make Me Feel Cheap" was something of a local hit. I worked with guitarist Kimm Gardener's sister for a time in a record store. https://www.discogs.com/CH3-Fear-Of-Life/master/171851
	🦇 6:49pm listener james from westwood: Ahh, Heart's bustier and Spandex phase. Fond HS memories. Plus this video is a hot slice of WTF.
	6:49pm Nick: scott, i also have 2 samsung tablets, and an ancient walmart tablet to boot ^_^
	🦇 6:49pm Julie: i just wondered I know they updated the app and there was some weirdness earlier but it was just the display
	🦇 6:50pm Handy Haversack: Oh, thoughts about the Fourth Hour I had while feeding the monsters, Julie: Bands/albums/tracks with countries in 'em. Six Degrees of the Dark Night: Put together an hour of "Plays in this band, but then went to this band, who had a person who played in this band, which became this band, etc." HEART! How I heart them. Even the eighties stuff!
	🦇 6:50pm Julie: @james there's an older Nancy song I love but I felt like going with the hit.
	🦇 6:50pm Handy Haversack: (Also, K8 called that this one ought to get played.)
	🦇 6:50pm listener james from westwood: Works for me!!
	🦇 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: My south-facing roof has deep snow sticking out over the eaves. On the east-facing panel, hardly anything. So your roof might be OK, depending on the situation, Julie. I've got a roof rake. If you think I should check it, send me the address and any special instructions I should know about.
	🦇 6:50pm Julie: thanks Handy! So numbers or countries..I'll see what works as I'm setting it up, then save the other one for later
	6:50pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:47 Dean: channel 3 were cover rather early (in 1983? though released later) in Finnish by Riistetyt. Track called "Haluun Kuolemaa", no idea what the original was called.
	6:51pm Nick: julie, i looked the band up on it.wikipedia.org and apparenty they still count as rock.
	🦇 6:51pm Julie: Ken it's just a fixer upper so I'm a bit worried. inspectors seemed to think the roof would be good a couple more years, hopefully that applies to snow
	6:51pm spodiodi: this one is for Ruby (cheers/rip)
	6:51pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: the cheesier 80s Heart rules!
	🦇 6:52pm Handy Haversack: Which is the other Nancy song, Julie? I also have wondered if there are enough "So and So Says" (Lisa, Cherry, etc.) songs to make up a whole hour? MOE! God, this song is so great.
	6:52pm Dean: I like the country idea. Or country/city/state, to make the universe of candidates wider.
	6:52pm Nick: julie, it seems the sixes sevens and nines is the album name. so it won't count anyways ^_^
	🦇 6:52pm Julie: Treat Me Well, I think it's on Little Queen
	6:53pm still b/p: Ha. "Lou Reed stated the song was 'so innocent and pure' that he could not possibly sing it himself."
	6:53pm Dean: That's amazing about Channel 3, Photocopy! Robbie Fields was on a roll at the time. He even brought F Word's Rik L Rik for an appearance at the store where I worked way over on the eastern edge of LA County.
	🦇 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Yet he sang "Andy's Chest," still b/p! Great show, Julie! So happy to have been here for it. All thanks from me, Kate, the monsters, all!
	6:54pm Scott67: Well my Microsoft phone won't play you either Julie??? You are forbidden fruit today it seems. Photocopy, cheers I will try that later when my head can deal with it. 😆👍
	6:55pm Nick: hmn... cleaning... i should clean too x.x
	🦇 6:55pm listener james from westwood: Whoa with "We Built This City." Thanks, Julie!!
	🦇 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Julie. Fun show today.
	🦇 6:56pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Fun show today. Great distraction from a crummy work day. See y'all next time.
	🦇 6:56pm chris in the redwoods: super fun. thanks, Julie. my suggestion for next week's 4th hour: improbably upbeat songs (horrible things happening lyrically, but major keys, upbeat music) :)
	6:56pm Dean: Bumped into Andy Summers at the Tower Records Classical Annex on Sunset Blvd. a billion years ago.
	6:56pm Cronbat: Thanks, Julie for yet another great show!
	6:56pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:53 Dean: here it is in finnish www.youtube.com...
	6:56pm HyperDose: Thanks Julie! Loved Seefeel, but that Darwin was outstanding! And Gaylord not knowing an obscure fact? I have a hard time accepting that reality.
	6:57pm wenzo llc.: I HATE we built this city. they played it every day on the stupid 80's entercom station my old boss played
	6:57pm spodiodi: thank you, Julie! see you next time! until then, all, cheerio and take care
	🦇 6:57pm listener james from westwood: Yay for the ABBA closer!
	6:57pm Scott67: Thanks for the show that I heard Julie. I was enjoying it, Archives here I come. ✌😎🌏❤
	🦇 6:57pm Julie: wenzo SAME it is a horrible horrible song but Im sure it made Bernie some nice cash
	6:57pm Dean: Thank you, Julie, for entertaining my idea...and me! Oh, thanks, PCC2000!
	🦇 6:57pm Handy Haversack: @chris: "I Don't Like Mondays"?
	🦇 6:58pm Julie: these dreams was definitely the superior choice
	🦇 6:58pm Julie: that's a good idea as well, will have to bank that
	6:58pm KWilde: Love your music choices - great pictures too!
	6:59pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I've seen a dive bar full of punks, goths, rednecks, whatever people explode in a singalong to this Abba tune - so catchy even sulking Finns have a blast.
	🦇 6:59pm Julie: thanks KW! Thanks for listening everyone!
	🦇 6:59pm chris in the redwoods: yes, Handy! :)
	🦇 6:59pm Julie: oh it is a great one
	6:59pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thanks Julie and souls in the snowy night
	7:00pm Scott67: 😎✌❤🌏 all!
	7:56pm coelacanth☯: Thanks Julie!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from February 2, 2021

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Familiar & forgotten gems from 50-plus years of music on the darker side, shoegaze, synthpop, goth, psychedelia, darkwave, with unapologetic detours into 70s pop. In a dark night of the soul, it's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Kinks	Where Have All the Good Times Gone? (mono version)	The Kink Kontroversy	Pye	1965		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Ordo Equitum Solis	Into This Funny Play	Planetes	Sinope	1999		0:03:38 (Pop-up)
Virginia Astley	Arctic Death "Arctic Death" by "Virginia Astley"	Promise Nothing	Sire	1983		0:07:19 (Pop-up)
Richard Hawley	Leave Your Body Behind You	Standing at the Sky's Edge	Mute	2012		0:10:22 (Pop-up)
Godley & Creme	Wind "Wind" by "Godley & Creme"	Consequences	Mercury	1977		0:15:34 (Pop-up)
Kristeen Young	Night Blindness "Night Blindness" by "Kristeen Young"	Enemy	TestTubeBaby	1999		0:19:24 (Pop-up)
The Jesus & Mary Chain	Virtually Unreal	Munki	Sub Pop	1998		0:23:22 (Pop-up)
Emily Bezar	Dream Gasoline "Dream Gasoline" by "Emily Bezar"	Moon In Grenadine	Demivox Records	1996		0:26:53 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Zephyr Quartet	Golden Brown (instrumental)					0:32:54 (Pop-up)
Darwin	Dance Alone "Dance Alone" by "Darwin"	Dance Alone	Darwin	2020		0:39:31 (Pop-up)
Lilies on Mars	From the Earth To Above	Ago	Lady Sometimes Records	2015		0:43:06 (Pop-up)
White Poppy	Orchid Child "Orchid Child" by "White Poppy"	Paradise Gardens	Not For Fun	2020		0:47:35 (Pop-up)
Nico	Facing the Wind "Facing the Wind" by "Nico"	The Frozen Borderline 1968-1970	Rhino	2007		0:52:46 (Pop-up)
Human Drama	Cynthia's Journal "Cynthia's Journal" by "Human Drama"	Cause and Effect	Projekt	2002		0:57:21 (Pop-up)
Faces	Nobody Knows "Nobody Knows" by "Faces"	The First Step	Warner Bros.	1970		1:02:35 (Pop-up)
Eliza Rickman	Bright Star "Bright Star" by "Eliza Rickman"	Footnotes for the Spring	Charmingly Befuddled Music	2015		1:06:37 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Lullabye Baby Ensemble	Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (instrumental)					1:10:40 (Pop-up)
Buke and Gass	Bring Your Knives "Bring Your Knives" by "Buke and Gass"	Buke and Gass	Buke and Gass	2008		1:15:24 (Pop-up)
Ask For Joy	Cherry Popsicle "Cherry Popsicle" by "Ask For Joy"	New Private Window	Infinitely Recursive Records	2016		1:19:18 (Pop-up)
Sly & The Family Stone	Stand! "Stand!" by "Sly & The Family Stone"	Stand!	Epic	1969		1:25:03 (Pop-up)
Opal	Happy Nightmare Baby "Happy Nightmare Baby" by "Opal"	Happy Nightmare Baby	SST Records	1987		1:28:05 (Pop-up)
Comet Gain	The Institute Debased "The Institute Debased" by "Comet Gain"	Fireraisers, Forever!	Tapete	2019		1:31:02 (Pop-up)
Cherie Currie	What Do All The People Know?	Blvds Of Splendor	Blackheart Records	2019		1:34:55 (Pop-up)
Chocolate Watch Band	Medication "Medication" by "Chocolate Watch Band"	The Inner Mystique	Tower	1968		1:38:25 (Pop-up)
Pussy	All Of My Life "All Of My Life" by "Pussy"	Pussy Plays	Morgan Blue Town	1969		1:40:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Monkees	The Girl I Left Behind Me (instrumental)					1:44:31 (Pop-up)
Ideal	Telepathie "Telepathie" by "Ideal"	Ideal	WEA	1980		1:49:36 (Pop-up)
Perpacity	In Never Mind "In Never Mind" by "Perpacity"	The Order of Now	Perpacity	2018		1:54:56 (Pop-up)
Void Vision	Black and White "Black and White" by "Void Vision"	In 20 Years (single)	Blind Prophet	2010		1:58:34 (Pop-up)
Nature of Wires	Time Is Come "Time Is Come" by "Nature of Wires"	Modus	Analogue Trash	2019		2:02:01 (Pop-up)
Seefeel	Polyfusion "Polyfusion" by "Seefeel"	Quique	Too Pure	1993		2:06:27 (Pop-up)
The Love Language	Pilot Light "Pilot Light" by "The Love Language"	Ruby Red	Merge Records	2013		2:12:45 (Pop-up)
Genesis	In Hiding "In Hiding" by "Genesis"	From Genesis to Revelation	London Records	1969		2:16:30 (Pop-up)
Cocteau Twins	Throughout the Dark Months of April and May	Victorialand	4AD	1986		2:19:19 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Music Box	Have You Never Been Mellow? (instrumental)					2:22:21 (Pop-up)
Elton John	This Song Has No Title	Goodbye Yellow Brick Road	MCA	1973		2:27:48 (Pop-up)
Lanterns on the Lake	Romans "Romans" by "Lanterns on the Lake"	The Realist	Bella Union	2020		2:30:11 (Pop-up)
The Hollies	Confessions of a Mind	Confessions Of The Mind	Epic	1970		2:35:02 (Pop-up)
The Mock Turtles	Baby and the Stars	Two Sides	Siren	1991		2:40:50 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Crying Song "Crying Song" by "Pink Floyd"	Soundtrack From The Film "More"	Tower	1969		2:44:32 (Pop-up)
Donovan	The Observation "The Observation" by "Donovan"	Mellow Yellow	Epic	1967		2:47:52 (Pop-up)
Honeybus	Girl of Independent Means	At Their Best	See For Miles	1989	single from 1968	2:50:14 (Pop-up)
Les Hamsters	Georgie Girl "Georgie Girl" by "Les Hamsters"	Georgy Girl EP	CBS	1966		2:52:51 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Neil Hefti	Lord Love A Duck (instrumental)					2:54:56 (Pop-up)
The Rolling Stones	In Another Land	Her Satanic Majesties Request	Decca	1967		3:00:23 (Pop-up)
Fleetwood Mac	Lizard People "Lizard People" by "Fleetwood Mac"	In the Back of My Mind (single)	Warner Bros.	1990		3:03:33 (Pop-up)
The Who	I Need You "I Need You" by "The Who"	A Quick One	Decca	1966		3:08:11 (Pop-up)
The Jimi Hendrix Experience	Little Miss Strange	Electric Ladyland	Reprise	1968		3:10:27 (Pop-up)
The Rolling Stones	Happy "Happy" by "The Rolling Stones"	Exile On Main St.	Rolling Stones Records	1972		3:13:20 (Pop-up)
The Beach Boys	Disney Girls (1957)	Surf's Up	Reprise	1971		3:16:27 (Pop-up)
Queen	'39 "'39" by "Queen"	A Night at the Opera	Elektra	1975		3:20:50 (Pop-up)
The Carpenters	I Kept On Loving You	Close to You	A&M Records	1970		3:23:48 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Deep Purple	Lalena (instrumental)					3:25:48 (Pop-up)
The Kinks	Willesden Green "Willesden Green" by "The Kinks"	Percy (OST)	Pye Records	1971		3:31:37 (Pop-up)
The Police	Be My Girl, Sally "Be My Girl, Sally" by "The Police"	Outlandos d'Amour	A&M Records	1978		3:33:55 (Pop-up)
The White Stripes	In the Cold, Cold Night	Elephant	V2	2003		3:37:19 (Pop-up)
Quarterflash	Critical Times "Critical Times" by "Quarterflash"	Quarterflash	Geffen	1981		3:40:10 (Pop-up)
The Moody Blues	And the Tide Rushes In	A Question Of Balance	Threshold	1970		3:45:16 (Pop-up)
Heart	These Dreams "These Dreams" by "Heart"	Heart	Capitol Records	1985		3:48:09 (Pop-up)
The Velvet Underground	After Hours	The Velvet Underground	MGM	1969		3:52:14 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Syd Barrett	Gigolo Aunt (loop) "Gigolo Aunt (loop)" by "Syd Barrett"					3:54:28 (Pop-up)
Abba	Does Your Mother Know? "Does Your Mother Know?" by "Abba"	Voulez-Vous	Altantic	1979		3:57:20 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦇 3:00pm listener james from westwood: Afternoon, Julie and all! Still mining my car out from all this snow.
	🦇 3:00pm Handy Haversack: Hello, Julie and all the Dark Ones!
	🦇 3:01pm Handy Haversack: I exposed ours today, James. Hoping not to have to move it till the thaw!
	3:02pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I'm a lazy b*stard, plenty of snow to be shoveled on my veranda, but listening to this instead. Hey Handy, james, Julie!
	3:02pm TDK60: Hiya Julie, Mods. Everyone looking sharp.
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: hiya James! Hi Handy! heya Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: heya TDK!
	3:02pm coelacanth∅: greetings Julie and all
	3:03pm HyperDose: Julieeeeee!
	3:03pm ike p: greetings and good day from - yup still snowing - baltimore
	3:03pm Dean: Today is James Joyce's birthday, but I have an idea for a theme hour playlist more suitable as a tribute to Georges Perec. Play only groups whose names don't include the letter "e." So, no The Kinks, but Madonna? Sure. No Beatles or Bowie, but Oasis is a-OK.
	🦇 3:04pm Julie: heya coela & Hyper!
	🦇 3:04pm Handy Haversack: Since Kate can't run in all this mess, she's gonna dance to your show for exercise and release today, Julie! Hey, Cha Cha, TDK60, coela, everyone!
	🦇 3:04pm Julie: hiya Dean! Hiya dancing K8!
	3:05pm coelacanth∅: "the" is expendable, as it is in your alphabetization of records
	3:05pm Rick from SC: Hey Julie and all.
	🦇 3:06pm Julie: hiya Rick.I agree Coela...
	3:06pm Rick from SC: What about The The
	3:07pm coelacanth∅: howdy Handy the the is just the
	🦇 3:07pm Handy Haversack: Oulipian Fourth Hour, Dean. That tracks!
	3:07pm HyperDose: Don't you just love it when you put a water bottle in the freezer and actually remember to get it before it freezes? mmmm so cold
	3:07pm coelacanth∅: (or, in my computer, the,the)
	3:08pm Dean: DJ Michael Shelley goes to extremes in that regard. He routinely relegates the "The" to a position at the end, following a comma and space. So, The The would be The, The.
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: ooh that sounds good Hyperdose
	3:09pm coelacanth∅: that doesn't sound good to me. hot water sounds good to me. (preferably the flavor of tea or coffee)
	3:09pm Nick: Hot water tastes too much like water for me.
	3:10pm coelacanth∅: if you drink hot water it has to be good water
	3:11pm Mr. Nobody: Hey All!
	3:11pm Dean: Reminded of Steven Wrights, "I got this powdered water. Now I don't know what to add."
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: hey Mr Nobody Hi Nick!
	3:11pm Dean: ^Wright's
	3:12pm HyperDose: I run extremely hot. I'd live in a morgue if I could.
	🦇 3:12pm chris in the redwoods: hi, Julie and folks. this Hawley cut is great. don't think i've heard it until now.
	3:13pm coelacanth∅: Dean maybe he's just copying/pasting from his computer?
	🦇 3:14pm Julie: Hi Chris!
	3:14pm coelacanth∅: hey chris
	3:15pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @3:12 HyperDose: SAME! I think just how cold I keep my apartment is already damaging for it. But something like 55F is ideal bedroom temp for me...
	3:16pm Dean: Possibly, coelacanth∅ (speaking of which, your name was on my clipboard from the last show!), but I'd like to think he's making the effort to do it and, anyway, aren't databases these days smart enough to recognize non-filing characters, noise words, etc.?
	3:18pm Cronbat: Howdy, all!
	3:18pm KWilde: 5cc!
	🦇 3:20pm Julie: hi Cronbat! Hi KWilde!
	🦇 3:20pm chris in the redwoods: when i worked in an office, i had co-workers who only drank warm(ie body temp) H2O. some sort of health benefits were espoused by doing so. i remain unconvinced.
	3:20pm KWilde: Just tuned in - hi Julie and dark souls
	3:20pm coelacanth∅: my gut feeling is it's probably good for your apartment - just as being cool is better for your body than being warm. (unless of course you're trying to burn up bacteria or viruses; but that should be short-term) certainly better for your apartment than warmth, anyway.
	🦇 3:20pm Handy Haversack: Hey, Chris. Dean, I noticed that when using the basic Playlist Search function, it does seem smart enough to return, say, both "Cure, the" and "The Cure," no matter which I search for, but I don't think it corrects for it when the DJs enter the names or in terms of needing to clicky-star again for the variant. KRISTEEEEEEEENNNNN!
	🦇 3:21pm Handy Haversack: You know what I find disgusting: brushing my teeth with warm water. That's just not right.
	🦇 3:22pm chris in the redwoods: agreed, Handy. eww.
	3:22pm HyperDose: @coel Are you endorsing the hot tub as an effective way to combat the rona?
	3:23pm Dean: Oh, man, I love Jesus & Mary Chain, The!
	🦇 3:24pm Handy Haversack: Me hell, the, too, Dean!
	3:26pm coelacanth∅: i was prescribed warm water (with astragalus extract in it) by an acupuncturist. warmth is yang. many people's illnesses are yin, if not their whole condition. also cold water constricts the stomach and small intestines, inhibiting any digestive processes going on and possibly causing muscular cramps.
	3:26pm Rick from SC: Headcoats, Thee?
	3:27pm Dean: I've had to go to the doctor for an issue with my yin yang, but I'm not sure that's what you're talking about, coelacanth∅.
	🦇 3:28pm Julie: I think I have Thee Headcoatees under T for Thee
	3:29pm Dean: I'm checking WorldCat to see if I can find a MARC record to determine whether or not catalogers treat Thee as non-filing. I doubt it.
	3:29pm TDK60: Remember, if you ever groom a young hepcat, remind them: it's not Swans, The; nor Cream, The. Thanks.
	3:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: It was the first (and for a long time the only) time I saw JAMC when Munki was released. I was excited but still I was stupidly expecting at least some of the chaos their previous visit to Finland had (1988, William Reid so drunk he fell off the chair he was trying to sit on while playing, resulting in a gig with all of two songs)
	3:31pm coelacanth∅: HyperD i'm not; but if you raise your body temperature enough it will certainly destroy the flu (corona) virus. that's what a fever is for. people have cured aids that way, but aids is many times more serious than covid, and the method used is draining blood out, heating it to...106ºf -? and returning it to the body. this has to be done at least once/week for many months, if not years, because you can only drain so much at a time.
	🦇 3:31pm chris in the redwoods: that's the idea exactly, coel. thanks for memory jog.
	3:33pm northguineahills: I saw JAMC in '94, Jim Reid was just a dick, at least Mazzy Star opened...
	3:33pm Dean: The record for Headcoats Down at Monroe County Public Library includes this "main entry" tag: 110 2 $aThee Headcoats,$eperformer,$ecomposer. No non-filing indicator. You'll find this shelved in the Ts.
	3:34pm HyperDose: That's fascinating stuff, coel. I've recently been reading up on the effects of hyperbaric oxygen treatments for cognitive disorders, CTE, & reverse aging. Promising stuff!
	3:34pm Nick: Chris, did you see that study where the guy took two sets of plants, and gave one only water that had been heated in the microwave, and one that had been room temperature, and observed the results?
	3:35pm Sylvia (France-NYC): Hi Julie and listeners too tired to listen tonight, I’ll catch up tomorrow on the archives. Have fun!
	3:35pm coelacanth∅: HyperD that said, the hot tub or sauna surely would help...but if you have the virus and aren't sick then you've created the immunity; and if you are sick it's probably pneumonia and much more needs to be done than that.
	3:35pm Nick: I think the study's focus was on whether or not the microwave's agitation of the water had some effect, rather than warm vs cold water... but your description of your coworker liking body temperature water reminds me of it.
	3:36pm Dean: I've seen J&MC only once, Hollywood Palladium. They were not loud enough. Same venue, roughly same time, saw The Cramps. They were loud enough.
	🦇 3:37pm woj: i know julie said she's not paying attention but i seem to remember seeing emily bezar in the basement at the second iteration of the knotting factory too. the old office, i seem to remember it being called. also saw kristeen young there a few times too. ah the good old days!
	3:38pm Nick: the snow here keeps melting though =(
	3:38pm coelacanth∅: i've heard of hyperbaric oxygen HyperD now i'm curious. oxygenation of the blood is our best defense against viruses in general. green foods, aerobic exercise.
	🦇 3:39pm Julie: Yes Woj probably same show!
	3:41pm coelacanth∅: some people say boiling water then letting it cool creates "dead water" - which is probably why a packet of tea will usually tell you to use "freshly boiled water". maybe it's because you decrease the oxygen levels in the water by boiling it.
	🦇 3:42pm Handy Haversack: Well, K8 was indeed dancing through the mic break, so I think we can say we know how'd she'd feel about this song's title!
	3:43pm coelacanth∅: (i'm curious about the results of that microwave test)
	3:43pm HyperDose: Key word "expensive". Of course people are already looking to profit from it. Wouldn't be surprised to see oxygen bars popping up within the next decade. www.popsci.com...
	🦇 3:45pm Handy Haversack: We saw Kristeen there, too, back in the mists of time.
	🦇 3:45pm chris in the redwoods: hey, Nick. no, i haven't seen that study.
	🦇 3:46pm Julie: that was a great venue
	🦇 3:47pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy. Looks like y'all got started without me.
	3:48pm Linda Lee: beautiful! lovely sounds, Julie! hi everyone!
	🦇 3:48pm Julie: hiya Phillippe! Hi Linda!
	3:49pm Linda Lee: how are you Phillippe?
	🦇 3:49pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey Linda Lee! How are ya, hon!?
	🦇 3:49pm Phillippe Bastille: All good here. You still in TX?
	3:50pm coelacanth∅: i'm pretty sure oxygen bars have been around for a while already. it strikes me as sad and "Orwellian" but most of all ludicrous. ...basically let's fuck up our host planet to the point the air is not adequate then make pure oxygen available to those who can afford it.
	🦇 3:51pm Phillippe Bastille: @coel I think it's kinda weird to be able to get the same thing in a bar and the back of an ambulance
	3:52pm Dean: Well, alcohol.
	🦇 3:52pm Handy Haversack: Yo, Phillippe! Me, I'd stock ambulances with gin, too. Just in case.
	3:52pm coelacanth∅: haha yeah and hi
	3:53pm Dean: On Oulipian Fourth Hour, you could play Nico, but not Lou Reed.
	3:55pm HyperDose: Not surprising as "they" did the same with our water supply. @Handy speaking of experiments, remember Neil and the yams? He did it for love!
	3:55pm Dean: I'd stock Saint Bernards with brandy.
	3:55pm TDK60: Hi, Linda L.
	3:56pm coelacanth∅: i lived with my father for a year after he'd had a stroke and he screwed something up and smoke came from the basement. he freaked out and called 911, even though it was nothing we couldn't have handled. anyway the ems people asked if i needed oxygen so i said, is it free? they said it's covered by insurance so i said Sure!
	🦇 3:56pm chris in the redwoods: hey, Linda Lee!
	3:57pm Nick: coel, its not that hard to make oxygen from water, salt, and an aluminum can, a plastic or glass cup, along with a set of wires and a usb charger, and a pair of scissors though.
	🦇 3:58pm Phillippe Bastille: I wonder what kind of shelf life oxygen has, particularly leave it out
	🦇 3:58pm Handy Haversack: HyperDose, you have no idea how often one of us explains our knowledge of a topic by saying, "I seen /Milk/!"
	3:58pm northguineahills: @coel: insert Space Balls reference here
	3:58pm coelacanth∅: Dean don't saint bernards come with brandy by default?
	3:59pm Cronbat: Barkeep, a double of nitrous, and an oxygen chaser
	🦇 3:59pm Phillippe Bastille: I think "St. Bernard" literally translates to "Brandy Dog"
	3:59pm Nick: phillipe it depends on the sort of oxygen you want really. if you take a jar of hydrogen peroxide in an actinated (tinted) bottle or dark bottle, and keep it in the fridge you can store that a long time, then take it out, and let it de-pressurize and you get some oxygen, you can do it more rapidly if you take something that can rust like an iron nail and pour it over, same with steel wool.
	4:00pm still b/p: When studies showed younger mouse blood has some age-reversing effects in older mice, I though a black market for young human blood would be reported soon after, including straight transactions and horror-movie types of harvesting, acquisitions and deals involving non-volunteer souces.
	4:00pm coelacanth∅: Nick i didn't know that. presumably you'd need a source of electricity too?
	4:00pm Dean: Perhaps they do, but once I've, uhm, self-medicated I need to replenish, don't I?
	🦇 4:00pm Julie: hiya still! Isn't that what part of the QAnon conspiracy is about?
	4:00pm Nick: still b/p, there are youth clinics that buy blood packs to insert into old people... my local red cross didn't opt out of selling to them so i stopped donating.
	🦇 4:01pm Phillippe Bastille: @nick well put. Probably I should not be wearing the N95 at the moment to get the full effect
	🦇 4:02pm Julie: Nick here in the US?
	🦇 4:02pm Phillippe Bastille: @Julie if it isn't we could start that rumor and see how far it goes
	4:02pm Nick: Julie, yes, here in the US, they started in California then branched out when it became popular.
	4:02pm Cronbat: Air is also a bountiful source of oxygen, ~21%
	🦇 4:03pm Handy Haversack: Oh, hello, Faces. The HairLympics have been postponed, but we will certainly keep your application on file.
	4:03pm Nick: Cronbat the thing is, air also contains other stuff =) if you can scrub that stuff out of your air with some silver oxide or some ozone or some energized aluminum plates... yay ^_^
	🦇 4:03pm Phillippe Bastille: @cronbat that's just the regular oxygen. we like the designer stuff
	4:04pm HyperDose: @still b/p my thoughts exactly. PopSci must be owned by Bezos or Gates. The plot thickens...like blood? There we go, brought it home. @Handy I hope you know how lucky you are. I quote TV show lines to my cat and he shows me his butt.
	4:04pm TDK60: Love this ol' Faces stuff.
	🦇 4:04pm Phillippe Bastille: This is a great board today. I feel very science-y at the moment
	4:05pm Nick: Juli, here's one of the ones that shut down, but that basically led to just re-packaging it with different claims. https://www.businessinsider.com/young-blood-transfusions-ambrosia-shut-down-2019-6
	4:05pm coelacanth∅: certainly no round-earthers here today
	🦇 4:05pm Julie: I remember stories about Keith Richards getting his blood cleaned and put back in him? Was that a real thing?
	4:05pm Nick: coel, even the door to door missionaries that come by agree that it's more of a square... 4 corners and all ^_^
	4:06pm Dean: Just now listening in to a presentation about quantum technologies and the law.
	4:06pm Nick: Julie, thats what Dialysis does. Usually they wait until your kidneys are weak or failing before they give it to you. but if you know, live a hard life stye like he did, maybe its worth investing in?
	4:06pm Cronbat: PB : I'm looking forward to the Gwynneth Paltrow oxygen
	4:07pm coelacanth∅: haha...square, or cubical, like wombat poop?
	4:07pm northguineahills: My father had a stroke checks my age exactly at my current age. But he ate a traditional american diet. I didn't inherit his vascular proclivities, and when given a choice, I'm 90% veggie...., so I should be fine....
	4:07pm Nick: coel, i don't have wombats in my fridge, so i guess i can't say?
	4:08pm still b/p: Someone has to ask. The blood from Paltrow's enterprise -- what does...it...smell...like....?
	4:08pm coelacanth∅: i'll have the Betty White blood please.
	🦇 4:08pm Julie: hey there NGH!
	4:09pm HyperDose: @ngh those daily walks help too!
	4:09pm Nick: Not sure, she was never as pretty as that canadian actress I liked.
	🦇 4:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Speaking of science-y, I'm attempting to rewrite a sentence that uses the term "isotropic curriculum". Anyone have a clue about what in the hell that means?
	🦇 4:09pm Julie: is it a prog rock album?
	🦇 4:10pm Phillippe Bastille: This Eliza Rickman is great!
	4:10pm Nick: Phillipe, nope, no clue, but if you take the words on their own meaning, it sounds like the curriculum doesn't change in temperature or pressure throughout and keeps a steady boring pace?
	4:11pm coelacanth∅: speaking of having a stroke, i need to shovel my car out at some point. if i can find it.
	4:11pm Nick: coel, just buy a new car.
	4:11pm northguineahills: yeah, Hyperdose. The last time my cholesteral was checked it was on the lower side.
	4:12pm northguineahills: @coel: better find it and dig it out before it ices over....
	🦇 4:12pm Handy Haversack: Changing shape, Phillippe?
	🦇 4:12pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick Yeah, I tried looking at them individually but I only got more confused. It's used in the context of the factory model of learning. Not sure what that refers to either.
	4:13pm Nick: Coel, go binge watch that ice-road truckers show first so you know what to expect if your engine stops!! :) :) :)
	🦇 4:14pm Phillippe Bastille: @Handy mebbe. I'm afraid to ask the writer...
	4:14pm Nick: phillipe, thefactory model of learning, again no clue, but the words suggest that it is divided into segments such as math, and history, similar to ford's assembly line where compartmentalization is present more than interdisciplinary studies?
	4:14pm Dean: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED608976.pdf
	🦇 4:16pm Phillippe Bastille: That's exactly the document that it was pulled from!
	4:16pm Nick: As long as we're all asking questions... Anyone know much about 3 speed manual transmissions from chevy/gm in 1955? I seem to have bought one recently and suspect it's a manual.
	4:16pm Cronbat: isotropic = applied in a consistent manner ?
	4:16pm Dean: So I figured.
	🦇 4:19pm Phillippe Bastille: I'm trying to change it into plain language to explain the next iteration of that particular system design. Failing miserably. But I'm having fun here.
	🦇 4:20pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Julie and Dark Side. Walked into town for a dental check-up. Not a sign of a single jay, cardinal, wren, sparrow, nuthatch, chickadee, titmouse, goose, hawk, eagle, etc. Must be hunkered down somewhere today, looking for groundhog prognostications.
	🦇 4:20pm Phillippe Bastille: Can't help you on the transmission. Did they have automatics in 1955?
	4:20pm Dean: Given the context of the paragraph in which the term occurs, I'm guessing it refers to a pedagogy and curriculum (a sequence of courses or phases of instruction) that is more or less identical for all students. But who are the students? People in a classroom? Or machines?
	4:21pm Nick: Automatics existed in 1955, yes.
	🦇 4:21pm Phillippe Bastille: @KFHP just about every single one of those is in our yard today
	🦇 4:21pm chris in the redwoods: i remember my friend having a old chevy pickup with "three on the tree" but that's as far as i can go.
	4:22pm northguineahills: if you run out of anti-freeze, vodka will do in a pinch (at least for Russians in Siberia, wouldn't recommend it for our cars).
	4:22pm still b/p: Ahh, been a long long time since I drove anything with three-on-the-tree shifting. Some were still made in the 70s.
	4:22pm Cronbat: Look for a filler tube on that transmission
	4:22pm Dean: So, teacher stands in front of class occupied by students, and provides datum or concept X, followed by Y, followed by Z. This is, perhaps, the traditional model of classroom pedagogy?
	4:25pm TDK60: Well, well.
	4:26pm Dean: Analogous to an assembly line in a factory, as Nick points out above. "Isotropic" because everybody (every unit) gets the same components, X, Y & Z.
	4:26pm northguineahills: Didn't think this was Sly and the Family Stone.
	4:26pm spodiodi: hi Julie! hi Souls! happy tuesday
	🦇 4:26pm Phillippe Bastille: Students in this context are people in any learning environment, whether classroom, on the web, in a simulator, using an eReader, etc. The project is to collect experience APIs from all learning events and be able to tie them back to competency achievement.
	🦇 4:26pm Julie: hiya spodi!
	🦇 4:27pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey spodi!
	🦇 4:27pm chris in the redwoods: ahoy hoy, spodi.
	4:29pm TDK60: ...somebody get me a notary public, that Sly song is still great. write that down, stamp it.
	4:29pm dreamyandseedy: i wish someone would reissue this album and the rest of the opal catalog!
	4:30pm northguineahills: what dreamyandseedy said....
	4:30pm coelacanth∅: i don't know about the timeframe but the electroglide used in some chevies was basically a 2-speed automatic with the 2nd speed sort of a sliding ratio. i've heard of that concept applied to a 3-speed, i think in mercedes, but maybe chevy/gm did it too. (or first, probably)
	🦇 4:31pm Julie: hi dreamy! I have the "early recordings" one as well but it is not as good as Happy nightmare
	🦇 4:31pm Handy Haversack: Yo, spodi!
	🦇 4:31pm Handy Haversack: (TDK60, that'll be two dollars.)
	4:32pm coelacanth∅: hey spodi!
	4:33pm Dean: "The Factory Models of the 1900's had a significant and lasting impact on the educational curriculum and testing frameworks developed in America's public schools. The child was viewed as a product, the school was designed as an educational factory, and standardized testing became the quality control mechanism for measuring educational progress. The effects of these structures can still be seen in today's public school organizations. Breaking free of the limiting effects of standardized testing requires changes in teacher education, school organization, curriculum frameworks, and especially, the methods of assessment currently used in public schools. Viewing assessment as 'reflective inquiry' rather than the measurement of accumulated facts, requires time, a new perspective, and dialogue among educators. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR]"--Serafini, F. W. (2002). Dismantling the Factory Model of Assessment. Reading & Writing Quarterly, 18(1), 67–85.
	4:33pm dreamyandseedy: wonder what is holding up that reissue, if i need to write a letter i will! I used to not love early recordings, it's so different to HNB, but it's grown on me and now i love it. there's also some possibly bootleg edition of early recordings vol 2 i think
	4:33pm spodiodi: I'm familiar with GM Powerglides, and turbo hydramatics.... just found the gear ratios for both: Power Glide 1st-1.76; 2nd-1.0 Turbo 350 1st-2.52; 2nd-1.52, 3rd-1.0 Turbo 400 1st-2.48; 2nd-1.48, 3rd-1.0
	4:34pm coelacanth∅: "chevy/gm" to me suggests a pick-up truck?
	🦇 4:34pm Julie: ooooh dreamy that I did not know
	🦇 4:34pm Phillippe Bastille: Thank you Dean! Cutting and pasting...
	4:34pm Dean: More where that came from, Phillippe.
	4:34pm spodiodi: hi hi, Phillippe, chris, Handy, coelacanth∅!
	4:35pm dreamyandseedy: i can send you the files if i want, i found them digging around the internet for other opal material. there is a great HNB-esque song called "Lisa's funeral" on there
	4:36pm coelacanth∅: is it "powerglide"? that sounds right. what's "electroglide" then?! something
	🦇 4:36pm Julie: yes please julie at wfmu org
	4:36pm spodiodi: electraglide is HD
	4:37pm spodiodi: duckduckgo.com...
	🦇 4:37pm Mx. Granny (e/em): this is where i meant to be! just called Kitten Sparkles Julie! heh
	🦇 4:37pm Julie: hiya mx granny!
	4:38pm coelacanth∅: okay. just confused. thanks spodi
	🦇 4:39pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Looking at this setlist...work has made me miss a heck of a show. Buke and Gass! I think they're Buke and Gase now?
	4:39pm coelacanth∅: interesting version. good, but not as good!
	🦇 4:39pm Julie: Heya Rich! I'm not sure.I know it's pronounced Gase but not sure they actually changed it
	🦇 4:40pm Julie: although why it wasn't Gase to start with I dunno
	🦇 4:40pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Dean. I'm pretty much having those issues on every page of that document. Trying to explain things in a simpler way when I don't understand them myself has been exyhausting
	🦇 4:41pm Rich in Bay Ridge: It's a guitar-bass hybrid so they were faithful to the spelling and not the pronunciation? I have a friend who is a good Ukelele player and he insists on calling his instrument an "OOkelele"
	4:42pm Dean: I hear you. I see 264 pages of fine print, very few citations to authority, lots of tabular and illustrative data.
	🦇 4:42pm Julie: but I think the guys NAME is Gase isn't it
	🦇 4:42pm Julie: you're right the more recent releases are Gase
	🦇 4:44pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I think his name is Sanchez. Both members first names...Aron and Arone. Almost as weird when Built to Spill had both Brett Nelson and Brett Netson in the band
	4:45pm Nick: Hmn. So Handy and Odi both know a bit about transmissions. How do I go about identifying just which sort of manual from 1955 i got? (do the numbers on the side help, so far i only found the date and day shift stamp)
	4:47pm northguineahills: That album cover for Pussy almost looks like the poster for Hausu....
	🦇 4:47pm Phillippe Bastille: Yep, that's pretty much my life at the moment. only 3 more years to retirement...
	4:48pm Dean: Phillippe, Looks like searching for "jerry gordon" "total learning architecture" ...will generate other work by one of the primary authors. Maybe some guidance there?
	4:48pm Nick: correction ( I've found lots of stamped numbers on the sides, only identified one of them)
	4:49pm Nick: Phil,won't retirement be sort of boring?
	🦇 4:52pm Handy Haversack: I think spodi and coela are the transmission experts (and Aamco). All I know is how to drive 'em and that replacing them is expensive. I have heard that Europe and the UK will soon all be automatics since there's no reason to have a manual transmission with an electric engine.
	4:52pm coelacanth∅: Julie Who has the dirty mind?! nobody mentioned astroglide!
	4:52pm doctorjazz: Hello!
	🦇 4:53pm Julie: coela, I don't think I did either did I? hi Dr jazz!
	4:53pm Nick: handy, oh okay =( i will try to say coel's name in front of a mirror until they help then ^_^ coel , coel, coel, ! coel, coel coel!
	🦇 4:54pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Dean, I'll have to look up Jerry Gordon. I have access to a number of folks who worked on that report but they tend to work and talk on a whole different level than this here boy.
	4:54pm spodiodi: i was trying to work it in, coel, but resisted
	🦇 4:54pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick I am willing to run that risk...
	4:55pm Nick: so this transmission 's to a car, and it weighs like maybe 60-70 pounds? but i dunno more than that... it's chevy or gm orange paint, and has the gm logo on the side. and it's dated for dayshift 1955
	4:56pm coelacanth∅: hello doctor! ...well Julie you said "...and other kinds of glide...you guys and your dirty talk"!
	4:56pm Nick: come to think of it, mary queen of scots never appears when you say her name in front of a mirror three times x.x maybe that's the wrong approach.
	🦇 4:57pm Julie: I was only teasing... but car oil can be very messy
	4:57pm Nick: not if you let it run out...
	4:58pm spodiodi: to the future, Handy i worked for my friend's father's torque converter warehouse/biz automatic transmission fluid is very very messy
	4:59pm coelacanth∅: no i'm sorry Nick but i'm not an expert either not by many miles... i know how to drive them, take care of them, and (in the case of my yamaha xj550) break them.
	4:59pm Nick: spodi, btw, the car i bought has a 3800 stall type torque convertor, i'm told. is there an easy way to tell from looking at it? a number somewhere?
	4:59pm spodiodi: especially in your hair :-B
	5:00pm Nick: coela, okay, thanks anyways... i'll just keep reading not-useful search results on google that talk about 4 speeds.
	5:00pm Nick: 4 speed results don't help at all wit my 3 speed... but google just isnt reliable =(
	5:00pm spodiodi: coel, i had an '81 xj550 (still have the shop manual for it) -- i feel like we must have talked about this before
	5:01pm coelacanth∅: i mean, i know something about what vehicles had what... something, but very minimal. i don't know how to fix them.
	🦇 5:01pm Phillippe Bastille: @spodi two of my sons are car guys. our old house had a garage and they liked to work in there. One of them decided to put a cracked battery right on the floor in a corner. that didn't turn out as well as you'd think it would.
	5:01pm Nick: ah brb, the guy delivering the furniture is due soon... i had best turn on some lights
	5:03pm doctorjazz: Hey, Coel, and all you other Princess and Princesses of Darkness.
	5:03pm spodiodi: Nick, no se -- i'd guess not/would depend on the manufacturer (all stall converters are aftermarket, afaik, eh?) -- and i don't remember what markings, if any were on the converters i was handling at that time
	5:03pm spodiodi: was like 35+ years ago :-B
	5:03pm coelacanth∅: we did spodi. same one i had
	🦇 5:04pm chris in the redwoods: shoot. must run an errand as quickly as possible to return to the musics...
	5:04pm ike p: ooh - i like this...toss depeche mode in a blender with cris cornell and get deadmau5 the remix
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: oooh furniture. I need to buy a bed myself. awww hurry back Chris!
	5:04pm spodiodi: Phillippe, hopefully you don't go barefoot in the garage too often
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: hiya Ike!
	🦇 5:05pm Phillippe Bastille: that's why we don't have a garage where we moved...
	5:05pm ike p: hiya julie! i've been boppin around doing household admin, thanks as always for an awesome soundtrack :)
	5:05pm Nick: spodi, well, it's an older model anyways, its a 75 nova i bought for parts (my 78 has fire damage) but it came from a race driver that was cutting down on projects and its got a stall converter, th 400, and a strange rear axle. allegedly. it'd be nice if i could look at parts and numbers and know for sure =)
	🦇 5:06pm Julie: You're welcome, Ike!
	5:06pm HyperDose: Oooh what is THIS? I dig I dig
	5:06pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Seefeel!
	5:06pm spodiodi: cool. coel. those engines were solid! (at least much more so than their suspensions :)
	5:07pm spodiodi: i like how you think, Phillippe
	🦇 5:07pm Julie: Cha Cha's recommendation!
	5:07pm Nick: phil, i specifically got a place with a garage because i was tired of 80 dollar oil changes that require an appointment ^^ and i want to be able to do "light maintenance" without my hoa or landlord complaining.... (to me light maintenance is anything one person can lift themself, and my hoa doesn't define it... so...)
	5:07pm spodiodi: sounds good, Cha Cha
	5:09pm HyperDose: Stay glorious, Cha Cha!
	5:09pm spodiodi: i applaud your taste, Nick... i've had 4 novas
	5:10pm Nick: Past tense though?
	5:10pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Soul Mates! 😎✌❤🌏
	5:10pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thanks! I'm glad people here like this, what a pity I can't remember who recommended them.
	🦇 5:10pm Julie: hey there Scott!
	5:10pm HyperDose: Good morning, Scott!
	🦇 5:10pm Julie: Cha Cha I thought it was you! You heard Insides and you thought of them
	5:11pm spodiodi: a '69 4dr, 2 '73 2dr, and a '76 3dr hatchback 2 of my friends had novas too -- one of which had a 75or 76 that was pretty well worked (aand was often catching fire)
	5:11pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:10 Julie: yes I guess so, but where I heard of them the first time escapes me.
	5:11pm spodiodi: </cartalk> g'day Scott67
	5:11pm Scott67: Hey HyperD! 😎
	5:12pm Scott67: G'day spodi mate! 😎✌
	5:12pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: what I meant @5:10 I can't remember who recommended them to me
	🦇 5:13pm Julie: ahhhhhh
	5:14pm spodiodi: liking this "The Love Language"
	🦇 5:16pm Phillippe Bastille: Nova -- sort of Spanish for "won't go"
	5:17pm spodiodi: indeed, PB 8^D
	🦇 5:17pm Handy Haversack: Some well-formed cartalk there, spodi. Yo, Scott, me cobber! I think I saw you with beer already. Now you're likely on the coffee, and I'm on the rye! Phillippe: ZING!
	5:17pm spodiodi: no va :-B
	5:17pm coelacanth∅: Phillippe @505 -because it dissolved?
	5:18pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: This reminds me, I gotta get that From Genesis to Revelation mono reissue immediately. The original mono is another story my wallet finds no words or cash for.
	🦇 5:18pm Julie: doesn't a star going nova mean it explodes?
	5:19pm Dean: Archive.org has a manual library where they host manuals. Here's one for 1946-55 Hydra-Matics, i.e., not manual. https://archive.org/details/kent-moore-hydra-matic-1946-55/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22general+motors%22
	5:19pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I hope the playlist won't explode as I have clicky-starred all songs
	5:20pm coelacanth∅: hey Scott! ... i had a 75 nova too. tough car.
	5:20pm HyperDose: Oh to be a fly on the wall during a Cocteau Twins recording session
	5:21pm northguineahills: I step out and missed Seefeel!!!!!
	🦇 5:21pm Phillippe Bastille: @coel wound up with some really weird cracks in the concrete and the cinder blocks in that corner started to degrade.
	5:21pm spodiodi: i forgot a 3rd friend (who had two). nice coel from wikpedia (i had to look when Julie asked): "A nova is a transient astronomical event that causes the sudden appearance of a bright, apparently "new" star, that slowly fades over several weeks or many months."
	5:22pm Scott67: Handy, you're not wrong just heating the espresso machine now. Enjoy your drop of choice cobber. 😎🍵🥃
	🦇 5:22pm Handy Haversack: Juliesong!
	5:23pm Scott67: Coel! 😎🖖
	5:23pm HyperDose: Clay plays The Payback by James Brown which clocks in at a whopping 7:38. Love those long jams.
	5:23pm coelacanth∅: i carried a spare battery in my '69 volvo for a while and of course it fell over and of course i didn't find out for a month or 2. lots of dissolved stuff.
	🦇 5:24pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick the oldest one has a four bay shop now and is buying a house that has a garage with room for two lifts. He's where I go to for oil changes and stuff, but I still cover his guys' labor. Once a dad, always a dad
	5:24pm northguineahills: I have everything from Seefeel and related projects like Scala and Disjecta...
	5:25pm HyperDose: My dad's MG had rust holes in the floor. It was fun seeing the road whizz by beneath your feet. Also the way the car shook was like getting a Thai massage.
	🦇 5:25pm Rich in Bay Ridge: @NGH I guess I have to go down that Seefeel hole now
	5:26pm Nick: yay... the furniture arrived... and its bigger than the photos for once.
	5:27pm Dean: Yeah, but not Ringo so much...? Keith on "Happy"? See upthread for my follow-up suggestion, way near the top (in my view) of the comments board.
	5:27pm spodiodi: i ruined a couple of shirts (and a bunch of other things with battery acid) "Little Johnny was a chemist. Little Johnny is no more... what he thought was H20 was H2S04"
	5:27pm Nick: Phil, nice... thats one thing i dislike about my old cars is if i find a shop to work on em, when i get it there it sits for a few months ( 3 of em have been at shops since sep, sep, and oct and not much work done yet . mostly because its real work to work on them ..so i've been buying other cheap cars when one breaks down, and waiting half a year on average for repairs.
	🦇 5:28pm Julie: do you mean the artists with no "e" in their names?
	🦇 5:28pm Phillippe Bastille: @coel transmission fluid spilled in the garage meant that we could never really get the paint to stick right on the floor. We weren't "paint the garage floor people" for the most part, but our realtor thought we would have more luck selling a place that didn't look like a Superfund site
	5:28pm spodiodi: and i once got in trouble for inappropriate application of H2O2
	5:28pm Nick: I kind of want to paint my garage floor too.but first i need to move everything out =P
	5:29pm northguineahills: It wouldn't be the Dark Night of the Soul w/o Sir Elton....
	5:29pm Nick: i've seen some nice garage conversions to gyms online recently... if i make it too nice i might not want my car in there anymore.
	5:29pm Scott67: I had just typed G'day to all on board individually, but scrolled too far & refreshed the whole lot to deletesville! I really need a COFFEE!!! 😁
	5:29pm Dean: Yes, no "e," but that's only because of the Perec book that pulled that off.
	5:30pm Nick: scott, don't worry, coffee isn't in shortage the way electronics and toilet paper tend to be. not yet...
	5:30pm spodiodi: that torque converter warehouse sent at least a couple of kids home each day covered in ATF. (like i said, in one's hair was the worst).
	5:30pm Dean: I mean, if you made it "x" you wouldn't exclude too many bands. Or maybe play only bands with "x" in their names!
	5:30pm northguineahills: @spodi, what would be the inappropriate application of hydrogen peroxide?
	5:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:29 Scott67: It's the thought that counts plus a cup of coffee :)
	🦇 5:30pm Handy Haversack: We ordered a shelf, hoping that it will allow us to set up the stereo again -- and still have the TV (a 27" CRT monster from the nineties[?]) set up as well. I think it will work. But then I got scared that it would suddenly be COVID delayed. But got a message today that it had shipped! (AND that I had earned 467 Audiolab points!)
	5:31pm Nick: northguinea, h2o2 can turn your hair orange, or give too much oxygen to a flame, etc.
	5:31pm Dean: Or bands with numerals in their names, but I feel like maybe that's been done...
	🦇 5:31pm Phillippe Bastille: @Nick my oldest and youngest both race and are racing instructors. They get beater 3 series beemers and put their racing components on and run them till they kill 'em or wreck 'em. There was always a car leaking fluids, even when they were all in one piece
	5:31pm Nick: Dean oh that reminds me of a song i listened to recently. the guy's name didn't have a number, but because of the way arabic was transliterated it showed up as a 3 instead of an a`
	🦇 5:32pm Phillippe Bastille: Never heard this Lanterns -- sounds sweet
	5:32pm spodiodi: bleaching the tail i was rocking in ~1986 ngh (catholic school; against dress code)
	5:32pm coelacanth∅: haha Hyper my mom's vw had that feature
	5:32pm Nick: phil, i've got a spare 2.0 74 alfa romeo motor that leaks... the prior owners put puddy in to plug the leak long enough for each run
	🦇 5:32pm Handy Haversack: Phillippe, I live by, paddle on, and represent the people's struggle against polluters to the government for a Superfund site. Remember: you can't spell it without "superfun"!
	5:32pm spodiodi: ^ ngh (sorry)
	🦇 5:33pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Hi, Julie! Just in from a long snowy walk. This Lanterns on the Lake album got all the attention this last year but I actually think you might love their previous one - "Beings" - even more. We adore it and first heard it on Irene's show. For a bonus, it was released on Summer's B'day!
	5:33pm Nick: It'd be fun to take racing lessons, the local racing clubs require you to earn in a rental, and those have height and weight limits, and i was like, um, why do we have a heighth limit? but that's life...
	🦇 5:33pm Phillippe Bastille: @Handy good old Olin Corporation...
	5:34pm Nick: hmn brb, i need to move the laptop to the new furniture. gotta get my moneys worth lol.
	5:34pm Dean: Nick, I had no idea that Mojave 3 was Arabic!
	5:34pm HyperDose: @Handy I assume you've seen It's Always Sunny?
	5:35pm northguineahills: ahhh, 1986, when I would walk around Japanese parks w/ my boombox rocking music, such as, Genesis (the only cassette I had for 3 years).
	5:35pm Nick: Dean, it wasn't mojabe... it was a Lebanese song about a guy whose love is too big for his heart.
	5:35pm Dean: (I was joking, which is the case a good chunk of the time.)
	🦇 5:37pm Phillippe Bastille: Sounds familiar, Nick.
	5:38pm luka: i’m late!! the meetings were merciless today. but that Lanterns on the Lake is right on time for a bandcamp friday. i also just accidentally posted on the main show’s board. long day.
	5:39pm Nick: Phil, the song was something like 3ahbat or a3hbat. i forget which a is a 3 when it transliterated. sung by a lebanese guy named Gemal or Jemal
	5:39pm Scott67: @5:30. Cheers Photocopy!
	5:39pm coelacanth∅: Dean you're not comparing Ringo's singing to Keith's are you?! i Love Ringo and he's an excellent drummer but his singing is pretty terrible. Keith's singing is at least as good as the main singer in many bands. much better than some famous singers. (lookin' at J Mascis, Rundgren, J.Richman, Cat Power, etc etc)
	5:39pm Miles of Middle Texas: Hey.
	🦇 5:40pm Julie: hi Luka, Hi Miles!
	5:40pm ike p: greetings luka! bummer of a day, take a seat by the fire and we'll send ya something warm :)
	5:40pm Nick: hey miles. do you feel envy for all of our snow?
	5:40pm coelacanth∅: (actually i guess Ringo's is better than those examples also)
	🦇 5:41pm Handy Haversack: Only bits and bobs, HyperDose.
	🦇 5:42pm Julie: Hi S&M&S I missed ya popping in there
	🦇 5:43pm Rich in Bay Ridge: @coel I think at least one of those singers you derided is a better drummer than Ringo. And I like how he sings better too (JM)
	5:46pm Miles of Middle Texas: Snow problem Nick(it's like 75f here now.)If I was wearing a snow board I would be
	🦇 5:46pm Julie: oh Miles that sounds perfect
	5:47pm HyperDose: @Handy Ah ok. Any time there's a pause between tracks, I think of the episode where they started a podcast and bribed Cricket with a rotisserie chicken. There's a part where Frank goes "dead aiiiir!" kills me every time. p.s. not a knock against you Julie, I'm reminded of it during any sort of pause.
	5:47pm Mr. Nobody: A little PF makes the day better
	5:48pm TDK60: Mr. Leitch.
	🦇 5:48pm Julie: oh man poor Cricket
	5:49pm spodiodi: indeed, Julie
	5:49pm Miles of Middle Texas: Now it's very pleasant. It's the 9 months of summer that's the sucky part.
	🦇 5:50pm Julie: ooh spodi that's a nice fire you've got burning there
	🦇 5:51pm Phillippe Bastille: Gotta run. Thanks for a great show, Julie. Bye everyone! Dean, thank you again for your help. I had literally reached the throwing up my hands point on working through some that academic writing -- totally out of patience at the moment. Have had way too many conversations with that group where I knew less after asking questions than I did beforehand...
	🦇 5:51pm Julie: bye Phillippe take care!
	5:51pm coelacanth∅: Rich maybe, maybe not. Mascis' tempo is all over the place; but how to compare 2 very different styles of music? Ringo's tempo is always spot-on and almost never made a mistake. he was nearly flawless. but then, i wasn't comparing drummers.
	5:51pm spodiodi: we've been watching "Foyle's War" (PBS?) and i can't stop thinking about the McPoyles from sunny
	🦇 5:51pm Handy Haversack: Later on, Phillippe!
	5:51pm northguineahills: You know the actor that plays Cricket is the head writer of Always Sunny?
	5:52pm coelacanth∅: tchau Phillippe
	🦇 5:52pm Phillippe Bastille: keep them sparrows fed, Handy
	5:52pm spodiodi: ciao, Phillippe. thanks, Julie .. there are some peeps-smores makings on the cawfee table
	🦇 5:53pm Julie: everybody sing!
	5:53pm northguineahills: I'm off for a walk, and might as well pick up some grub.. Will be listening!
	🦇 5:53pm Julie: enjoy, ngh!
	5:53pm HyperDose: Take care Phillippe and ngh!
	🦇 5:54pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Georgie Girl!
	5:54pm spodiodi: watch out for the tourists, ngh
	5:54pm HyperDose: And yes, David Hornsby. His mind is fascinating. Also love Jimmi Simpson.
	5:56pm spodiodi: Les Hamsters made me giggle as well, Julie :D
	5:56pm coelacanth∅: time for me to move some snow. my goal is a path to my car and do the car tomorrow, but maybe i'll keep going.
	5:57pm coelacanth∅: (all i can see of the car is the top 9" or so of the driver door)
	🦇 5:57pm Handy Haversack: Pitter patter, coela! We'll send St. Bernards just in case!
	5:57pm spodiodi: good luck, stay warm, and don't overexert your bad self, coel \m/
	5:58pm spodiodi: new theme recs, eh? hmm
	5:58pm coelacanth∅: well - it's groundhog day, so if i kick the bucket out there i'll just start the day again tomorrow.
	5:58pm northguineahills: I get along better in the projects then w/ tourists
	5:59pm Nick: Juli you're short? I'm like 2 meters tall ^_^ (exactly.)
	5:59pm Scott67: The Rainbow Lorikeet are going for it this morning Julie! 😎
	5:59pm HyperDose: That's the spirit. Take care, coel!
	5:59pm Dean: Ran out to do shopping for the last twenty or so. No, coel, no comparison. Only suggesting that Ringo sang so rarely with the FF, just as Keith sang rarely with RS. That's the conceit for this hour: not the regular vocalist.
	5:59pm Nick: Yeah... your car died to that semi slightly after mine burned to that fire... 2020 is not a good year for cars i guess ^_^
	6:00pm Scott67: Coel, stay safe mate. 😎✌
	6:00pm spodiodi: i'll see if Bill Murray is available, c∅
	6:00pm TDK60: I feel funny.
	6:00pm Dean: Ha! But I'm not hearing "Happy"...?
	6:01pm Dean: An evolving playlist...
	6:03pm Scott67: Okay so things are burning down here, in Western Australia anyway. 😐
	🦇 6:03pm chris in the redwoods: back! who's snoring?
	6:03pm Nick: Oh! i forgot there was a movie i wanted to watch bill muray in where he plays some old grumpy russian neighbor and an annoying neighbor's kid won't leave him alone until he becomes his only friend or something? dennis the menance but with mr wilson being lonely i guess?
	🦇 6:04pm Julie: yeah I mixed up my stones songs there
	6:06pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:03 chris in the redwoods: not 100% sure but I think it was Brian Jones doing the ZZZZZZZZZ. A trickier question is, what Stones song is playing faintly behind that snoring bit? IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!
	6:06pm Dean: This FM tune was co-written by the late, great Peter Bardens, Camel's keyboard wizard.
	6:07pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: No, not Brian Jones , Bill Wyman was the maestro who we just heard not only singing but also snoring.
	6:08pm HyperDose: @Nick St. Vincent [2014]
	🦇 6:09pm Handy Haversack: Mike Mills usually did one song per album ... just in case you needed some R.E.M. (and who doesn't?!).
	🦇 6:09pm chris in the redwoods: haha! nice, Cha Cha! i was just joking, which is a mistake with DJs ;-) you lot never fail to impress.
	6:13pm Nick: Hyper Dose , Ah thanks!
	6:13pm luka: H A P P Y
	6:14pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:09 chris in the redwoods: even if no-one should include me in their pub quiz team, I love pointless trivia!
	6:14pm Nick: eh. the music stopped x.x i wonder if my internet died
	6:14pm spodiodi: annnnd we're back
	🦇 6:14pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Well that wasn't the usual lead singer
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: believe it or not I don't own a single REM record. couple songs on comps
	6:14pm Dean: Phillippe @5:51, You're welcome. Your plight reminds me of a post today on Brian Leiter's philosophy blog, a link to an account of the differences between the writing styles of political philosophers and political theorists. I'm guessing the document you're working with is most like the latter: https://200proofliberals.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-argument-in-pocket-move-bullying.html
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: how long was it down?
	6:15pm Nick: julie, i only have their cd... i still need to buy a record player but i haven't found one for sale that will deliver =)
	🦇 6:15pm Rich in Bay Ridge: 3 seconds?
	🦇 6:15pm Julie: oh that's not bad
	6:15pm spodiodi: maybe 20 seconds or less, Julie
	🦇 6:15pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I heard a woman singing
	🦇 6:15pm Handy Haversack: 5 seconds?
	6:15pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:14 Julie: 10 sec says I
	6:15pm Dean: I have zero REM, but Michael Stipe appears on a Golden Palominos album or two.
	6:16pm spodiodi: i'll revise that to 10 seconds or less, based on Rich's and Handy's (and Cha Cha's) reports
	🦇 6:16pm Julie: i think it may have been my net that dropped for a brief moment
	🦇 6:16pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I have way more Minus 5 and Baseball Project albums with Mike and Peter than I do REM
	6:17pm Danny in Poughkeepsie: Hi Julie. I haven’t heard your show since you did the overnight. I missed it. Great show!!
	🦇 6:17pm Julie: hi there Danny! Thank you!
	🦇 6:18pm Handy Haversack: I have the full R.E.M. discography. But I did grow up in Atlanta. First concert. Also third and fifth. And then never again? NO idea why. I guess "expense." But there is a LOT to love in that discography.
	🦇 6:18pm Julie: i need the stuff that sounds like radio free europe
	🦇 6:19pm chris in the redwoods: that's def the sweet spot, imo, Julie.
	6:20pm HyperDose: @Julie Coincidentally Eponymous was my first R.E.M. album (compilation) with Radio Free Europe. That song has such great energy.
	6:20pm Dean: I just acquired the complete works of Thomas Tallis. Renaissance choral, mostly.
	🦇 6:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: Haha, back inside earlier than planned. I was out shoveling and a dude with a plow on his pickup offered to give it a whack. Took him just a couple passes and five minutes to clean things right up. Good thing I had my wallet with me.
	6:22pm Dean: You could ask Dr. Brian May, astrophysicist, about the definition of nova and probably get a reasonably authoritative reply
	6:22pm HyperDose: One band I need to explore more is Steely Dan. Keep hearing good things, have no idea where to start.
	🦇 6:22pm Julie: hi Ken!
	🦇 6:22pm Julie: Ken can you stop by my house make sure the roof didn't collapse under the snow (YIKES) Hyper..AJA, you need AJA
	🦇 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie. I sent you some photos earlier today.
	🦇 6:23pm Julie: I saw, gorgeous!
	6:24pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:22 HyperDose: maybe in chronological order, that was not bad in my case actually.
	🦇 6:24pm chris in the redwoods: i'm no Dan expert, but why not begin with Aja, HyperDose?
	🦇 6:24pm chris in the redwoods: oh, oops. yes, Julie is the expert! :)
	🦇 6:24pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Aja and the Royal Scam are as deep as I'm willing to go with SD
	🦇 6:24pm Handy Haversack: Nice, Ken! A guy offered to help me dig out the car, and I was basically all "you keep walking. Pally." Julie: Chronic Town, Murmur, Fables of the Reconstruction. Though I would argue there are many other great ones.
	6:24pm Cronbat: Dean: Tallis is really splendid. Spem in Alium is deservedly his best.
	6:24pm Dean: Oooooh, Steely Dan is one of those bands in my twisted world. I take them in very, very, extremely tiny doses. I'd start with the first album. Maybe Pretzel Logic, then, Katy Lied, or Royal Scam. But don't get near Aja.
	🦇 6:25pm Julie: I bought AJA one day because it was cheap and I was like, I already know HALF of these songs
	6:25pm Dean: Have to agree, Cronbat. Somebody should do a 12" dance mix of Spem in Alium.
	6:25pm HyperDose: Aja it is, then The Royal Scam, then I'll go chronologically. Thanks so much! :)
	6:28pm Cronbat: Hearing Spem in Alium the first time ( on the radio) literally made me stop, sit down, and concentrate on listening
	6:28pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Speaking of Brians, I find it odd that while Brian Jones did do (early) backing vocals on The Rolling Stones' records, never a lead vocal proper.
	6:29pm doctorjazz: I like Dan, particularly partial to the 1st 2 albums (when they were actually a band) Can't Buy a Thrill, and Pretzel Logic,.
	6:30pm Dean: I think that was the case for me, too. Probably Wulstan's with The Clerkes of Oxenford: https://www.discogs.com/Thomas-Tallis-The-Clerkes-Of-Oxenford-Directed-By-David-Wulstan-The-Glories-Of-Tudor-Church-Music/release/3557497
	6:31pm Edna: I really like those ideas Dean had elsewhere on the comment board. You should use one of those.
	🦇 6:32pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Hoping for some Wings action in this set and no U2
	6:32pm Dane: I agree with Edna.
	🦇 6:32pm Julie: Sorry Rich no Wings but also no U2
	6:32pm HyperDose: This really is the year of The Kinks!
	6:33pm Scott67: Well Julie, I totally lost audio here a while ago. And refresh, reload only gets a second of sound then gone. Yet I can write to you? Thought it was my device, but dunno? 🙄
	🦇 6:34pm Rich in Bay Ridge: First thing that came to mind when I heard the concept "Joe English sang at least one song for Wings"
	🦇 6:35pm Julie: Scott I think I'm up and running again so it might be you
	🦇 6:35pm Julie: is everyone hearing Andy and his blow up doll?
	6:36pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:35 Julie: yes
	🦇 6:36pm Handy Haversack: Holy crap, getting these animals fed! I've never seen Shark Tank. And I have only a vague idea of what it is. But I'm just gonna say it! It's like Shark Tank! Or at least what my emotions say Shark Tank ought to be like. My emotions!
	6:36pm Dean: Yes.
	🦇 6:36pm Handy Haversack: Yes, Julie.
	🦇 6:37pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Yes. The rest of the song is pretty good...but that spoken word stuff is worse than the little vignettes on the Giles Giles & Fripp record
	🦇 6:37pm Julie: haha I kinda like that part
	🦇 6:37pm chris in the redwoods: yes, Julie. and oooo yeah, this....
	6:38pm doctorjazz: Her Satanic Majesties Request is making a comeback (never actually got much in the way of props, immediately dismissed as a Sgt Pepper's wannabe). I always liked it.
	6:38pm chresti: Hi Julie, I like the snowflakes! I've been listening in the shower.
	🦇 6:38pm Julie: hiya chresti!
	🦇 6:39pm Julie: I now have exactly ONE white stripes song
	6:40pm spodiodi: you're one up on me, Julie
	🦇 6:40pm Julie: if she sang all the time I'm sure I'd have more
	🦇 6:40pm Julie: I still do not know if they are siblings or married
	6:41pm Nick: meh. someone's shouting at another driver outside and i can't hear the music
	🦇 6:41pm Handy Haversack: I'm mainly hopeful it's not a political statement, Julie. (Kidding! I assume it's the order of magic they belong to!)
	6:42pm Dean: Married to each other, you mean. They could be siblings, and they could be married.
	🦇 6:42pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Is this the first time Quarterflash has been played on WFMU?
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: Well, I have played them before, but I can't speak to others. I'm sure they have
	6:42pm Scott67: Just swapped devices, I can get Jungle Room fine on both. But Drummer stream just won't stay linked, even sayingi I was offline. Yet here I am, but in silence?
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: yes, Dean, correct
	6:43pm Nick: ah... my neighbor is getting a rooms to go delivered by a big ole truck and they're trying to move it into a little old alleyway as they shout and them at what not to hit x.x
	6:43pm Dean: One of the songs I thought might end up here, perhaps another WFMU first, I dunno, is the one James Iha sings on a Smashing Pumpkins album. I think it's the only one...not sure.
	🦇 6:43pm Julie: oh no Scott that's very odd
	🦇 6:43pm Julie: I don't do pumpkins
	🦇 6:44pm Julie: I think White Stripes is the only one I didn't have an album by
	6:44pm Nick: oh those are some loud ole air brakes too... i guess i need some sound proofing foam on my walls.
	🦇 6:44pm Julie: so the other idea was bands with numbers in their name?
	🦇 6:44pm Handy Haversack: What did you do with the real Scott67, you infernal device!
	6:45pm Ande: Well, that guy Dean up there thought either bands without an e, bands with an x, or bands with numbers. So, for instance, Channel 3, but please not Blink 182.
	🦇 6:46pm Julie: I don't even know who Channel 3 is
	6:46pm Nick: julie, i have a casette by sixes sevens and nines, but it's not really the style of music you usually have on the show.
	🦇 6:46pm Julie: what kind of music is it, Nick?
	6:46pm Scott67: Handy, I'm still here, but only in spirit. 😆 Whith Shangri-la show providing sound track.
	🦇 6:47pm Julie: this song is making me sad
	🦇 6:47pm Julie: Scott are you using an iphone by any chance?
	6:47pm Dean: I wonder how hard it would be to come up with a list of bands whose managers have been sued for tax evasion. Channel 3 was an OC punk band with a pretty dang fine first album.
	6:47pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:42 Scott67: last summer a radio app (as if you could call mine a smartphone...) did it the other way around, did play drummer but not sheena. uninstalled the app and installed VLC media player with which all of them work - though you need to have the .pls files
	6:48pm Nick: julie, hmn. i would have guessed rock when i bought it, but the singer's vocals remind me more of that stevie ray guy i don't like.
	6:49pm Scott67: Nooo, not an i anything in the house. 2 Samsung Tablets. May try my cheap phone
	6:49pm Dean: "You Make Me Feel Cheap" was something of a local hit. I worked with guitarist Kimm Gardener's sister for a time in a record store. https://www.discogs.com/CH3-Fear-Of-Life/master/171851
	🦇 6:49pm listener james from westwood: Ahh, Heart's bustier and Spandex phase. Fond HS memories. Plus this video is a hot slice of WTF.
	6:49pm Nick: scott, i also have 2 samsung tablets, and an ancient walmart tablet to boot ^_^
	🦇 6:49pm Julie: i just wondered I know they updated the app and there was some weirdness earlier but it was just the display
	🦇 6:50pm Handy Haversack: Oh, thoughts about the Fourth Hour I had while feeding the monsters, Julie: Bands/albums/tracks with countries in 'em. Six Degrees of the Dark Night: Put together an hour of "Plays in this band, but then went to this band, who had a person who played in this band, which became this band, etc." HEART! How I heart them. Even the eighties stuff!
	🦇 6:50pm Julie: @james there's an older Nancy song I love but I felt like going with the hit.
	🦇 6:50pm Handy Haversack: (Also, K8 called that this one ought to get played.)
	🦇 6:50pm listener james from westwood: Works for me!!
	🦇 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: My south-facing roof has deep snow sticking out over the eaves. On the east-facing panel, hardly anything. So your roof might be OK, depending on the situation, Julie. I've got a roof rake. If you think I should check it, send me the address and any special instructions I should know about.
	🦇 6:50pm Julie: thanks Handy! So numbers or countries..I'll see what works as I'm setting it up, then save the other one for later
	6:50pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:47 Dean: channel 3 were cover rather early (in 1983? though released later) in Finnish by Riistetyt. Track called "Haluun Kuolemaa", no idea what the original was called.
	6:51pm Nick: julie, i looked the band up on it.wikipedia.org and apparenty they still count as rock.
	🦇 6:51pm Julie: Ken it's just a fixer upper so I'm a bit worried. inspectors seemed to think the roof would be good a couple more years, hopefully that applies to snow
	6:51pm spodiodi: this one is for Ruby (cheers/rip)
	6:51pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: the cheesier 80s Heart rules!
	🦇 6:52pm Handy Haversack: Which is the other Nancy song, Julie? I also have wondered if there are enough "So and So Says" (Lisa, Cherry, etc.) songs to make up a whole hour? MOE! God, this song is so great.
	6:52pm Dean: I like the country idea. Or country/city/state, to make the universe of candidates wider.
	6:52pm Nick: julie, it seems the sixes sevens and nines is the album name. so it won't count anyways ^_^
	🦇 6:52pm Julie: Treat Me Well, I think it's on Little Queen
	6:53pm still b/p: Ha. "Lou Reed stated the song was 'so innocent and pure' that he could not possibly sing it himself."
	6:53pm Dean: That's amazing about Channel 3, Photocopy! Robbie Fields was on a roll at the time. He even brought F Word's Rik L Rik for an appearance at the store where I worked way over on the eastern edge of LA County.
	🦇 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Yet he sang "Andy's Chest," still b/p! Great show, Julie! So happy to have been here for it. All thanks from me, Kate, the monsters, all!
	6:54pm Scott67: Well my Microsoft phone won't play you either Julie??? You are forbidden fruit today it seems. Photocopy, cheers I will try that later when my head can deal with it. 😆👍
	6:55pm Nick: hmn... cleaning... i should clean too x.x
	🦇 6:55pm listener james from westwood: Whoa with "We Built This City." Thanks, Julie!!
	🦇 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Julie. Fun show today.
	🦇 6:56pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Fun show today. Great distraction from a crummy work day. See y'all next time.
	🦇 6:56pm chris in the redwoods: super fun. thanks, Julie. my suggestion for next week's 4th hour: improbably upbeat songs (horrible things happening lyrically, but major keys, upbeat music) :)
	6:56pm Dean: Bumped into Andy Summers at the Tower Records Classical Annex on Sunset Blvd. a billion years ago.
	6:56pm Cronbat: Thanks, Julie for yet another great show!
	6:56pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:53 Dean: here it is in finnish www.youtube.com...
	6:56pm HyperDose: Thanks Julie! Loved Seefeel, but that Darwin was outstanding! And Gaylord not knowing an obscure fact? I have a hard time accepting that reality.
	6:57pm wenzo llc.: I HATE we built this city. they played it every day on the stupid 80's entercom station my old boss played
	6:57pm spodiodi: thank you, Julie! see you next time! until then, all, cheerio and take care
	🦇 6:57pm listener james from westwood: Yay for the ABBA closer!
	6:57pm Scott67: Thanks for the show that I heard Julie. I was enjoying it, Archives here I come. ✌😎🌏❤
	🦇 6:57pm Julie: wenzo SAME it is a horrible horrible song but Im sure it made Bernie some nice cash
	6:57pm Dean: Thank you, Julie, for entertaining my idea...and me! Oh, thanks, PCC2000!
	🦇 6:57pm Handy Haversack: @chris: "I Don't Like Mondays"?
	🦇 6:58pm Julie: these dreams was definitely the superior choice
	🦇 6:58pm Julie: that's a good idea as well, will have to bank that
	6:58pm KWilde: Love your music choices - great pictures too!
	6:59pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I've seen a dive bar full of punks, goths, rednecks, whatever people explode in a singalong to this Abba tune - so catchy even sulking Finns have a blast.
	🦇 6:59pm Julie: thanks KW! Thanks for listening everyone!
	🦇 6:59pm chris in the redwoods: yes, Handy! :)
	🦇 6:59pm Julie: oh it is a great one
	6:59pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thanks Julie and souls in the snowy night
	7:00pm Scott67: 😎✌❤🌏 all!
	7:56pm coelacanth☯: Thanks Julie!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from February 2, 2021

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