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eleh  over woven   Favoriting Touch:30 years and counting  touch    *   0:00:00 (Pop-up)
les momies de palerme  le cerf invisble   Favoriting brulez ce coeur        0:06:16 (Pop-up)
telebossa  feltro no ferro   Favoriting telebossa        0:12:22 (Pop-up)
a girl called eddy  heartache   Favoriting tears all over town        0:17:18 (Pop-up)
ammasu akapoma group  you are so brave   Favoriting The Music of Ammasu  Country & Eastern    *   0:20:34 (Pop-up)
the miller sisters  got you on my mind   Favoriting sun's singing sweethearts sun country vol 3        0:23:58 (Pop-up)
Samantha Crain  taught to lie   Favoriting kid face  ramseur    *   0:26:15 (Pop-up)
midlake  young bride   Favoriting the trials of van occupanther        0:30:42 (Pop-up)
 
lee perry/ junior byles  army of love   Favoriting The Sound Doctor Black Ark Singles And Dub Plates 1972-78  pressure sounds    *   0:39:17 (Pop-up)
ichimaru  samisen boogie woogie   Favoriting Rocket Infinity: The Global Rise in Rocking Music 1942-62  Canary/Mississippi/Change  10"  *   0:41:56 (Pop-up)
the sharps  Have Love, Will Travel   Favoriting Califia: The Songs of Lee Hazlewood        0:45:37 (Pop-up)
Les Olivensteins  la nuit tragique   Favoriting Les Olivensteins        0:47:17 (Pop-up)
Reparata & The Delrons  the kind of trouble that i love   Favoriting the best of        0:50:05 (Pop-up)
jodesha and the star ride  the answer   Favoriting groove merchant turns 20        0:52:13 (Pop-up)
Alessandro Alessandroni  Galleria di Immagini   Favoriting Prisma Sonoro  roundtable    *   0:55:18 (Pop-up)
gen ken montgomery  what are you afraid of   Favoriting postcards  Vinyl-on-Demand    *   0:59:08 (Pop-up)
trop tard  maman   Favoriting Ils Etaient 9 Dans L'Obscurite  sacred bones    *   1:01:36 (Pop-up)
 
martin lopez y sus estrellas  mi razon de vivir   Favoriting Cocinando  Masstropicas    *   1:10:49 (Pop-up)
le tigre  fake french   Favoriting feminist sweepstakes        1:12:54 (Pop-up)
santogold  l.e.s artistes   Favoriting santogold        1:15:59 (Pop-up)
yo la tengo  i'll be around   Favoriting fade      *   1:35:49 (Pop-up)
Caetano Veloso  mora na filosofia   Favoriting transa        1:25:42 (Pop-up)
pep laguarda & tapineria  caseta del plater   Favoriting brossa d'ahir        1:30:30 (Pop-up)
 
solange  losing you   Favoriting true  terrible records    *   1:41:27 (Pop-up)
cheba wassila  hwa heda   Favoriting Music From Saharan Cellphones Vol. 2 (V/A)  Sahelsounds    *   1:45:42 (Pop-up)
wooden shjips  contact   Favoriting         1:49:00 (Pop-up)
Towa Tei  BMT   Favoriting sound museum        1:57:50 (Pop-up)
 
io  #2   Favoriting flamenco abstraction  elegua    *   2:04:03 (Pop-up)
marianne dissard  sans-facon   Favoriting L'Entredeux        2:07:49 (Pop-up)
johnny hawksworth  the beginning   Favoriting Tomorrow's Achievements- Parry Music Library 1976-86 (V/A)  public information    *   2:10:17 (Pop-up)
charley patton  a spoonful blues   Favoriting volume 1  Third Man    *   2:12:16 (Pop-up)
hong kong in the 60's  the ungrateful root   Favoriting collision/detection version 4        2:15:02 (Pop-up)
kesarbai kerkar  kukubh bilawal   Favoriting kesarbai kerkar  mississippi/canary/change    *   2:21:52 (Pop-up)
wanda jackson  to tell you the truth   Favoriting capitol rarities  omnivore recordings  10"  *   2:24:18 (Pop-up)
 
leila  don't fall asleep   Favoriting like weather        2:32:21 (Pop-up)
minimal  touch too much/ acdc cover   Favoriting         2:35:18 (Pop-up)
falty DL  for karme   Favoriting Hardcourage      *   2:39:27 (Pop-up)
desmond leslie  dawn, invocation   Favoriting music of the future  trunk      2:43:02 (Pop-up)
marianne dissard& jim waters  padam padam   Favoriting         2:45:50 (Pop-up)
anthony valadez  asleep feat anna wise   Favoriting just visiting      *   2:50:35 (Pop-up)
christof glowalla  technik   Favoriting erde 80  medical  10"  *   2:54:02 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Brian in UK:

A tune, a tune, my kingdom for a tune.
'ello trouble
Avatar 9:08am
listener mark:

Good morning.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Trouble:

good snowy morning all!
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duke:

Morning Trouble and troubled listners
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am
anarchivist:

Good morning!
Avatar 9:12am
listener mark:

Happy birthday, William S. Burroughs.
Avatar 9:13am
Cheri Pi:

greetings, it's dark in here. I like it.
  9:16am
dale:

good morning under a thin blanket of white. as an fyi, reg presley, singer of troggs passed away. love is all around.
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sugarwolf:

good morning!

Brian, I am strangely excited by the Richard III news
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pierre:

Bonjour Trouble !

@ CP : well done on the sticker ! ;)
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:16am
Trouble:

that's true cheri pi, music seems to match the tone...don't worry it will lighten up soon enough
  9:17am
Adrian in London:

Hello world! So who here wasn't born when the last My Bloody Valentine album came out?!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:19am
Trouble:

new MBV and finding king richard's remains under a parking lot have a lot in common as i see it....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19am
groucho:

it's snowing there too? same here in northern England.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:20am
Brian in UK:

@sugarwolf, next up Alfie the G.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:21am
Brian in UK:

@groucho have you got a daughter called Courtney?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
groucho:

@Brian why, what are your intentions with her?
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:28am
Adrian in London:

That A Girl Called Eddy album is really good. SHe seemed to disappear after it came out. There's been nothing from her since.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:31am
Brian in UK:

No intentions old bean, as soon as I saw that leather coat & snappy keyboard I thought you looked familiar, seem to remember mention of a daughter on one your unforgettable shows. By the same token I am not a bronze cast dog called Opera.
  9:31am
Christy (the JC version):

Sneaking a listen via the WFMU app, which I just discovered, and which is very awesome for me today! Happy Tuesday, Trouble!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:32am
Brian in UK:

Tough lyrics, trouble.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:33am
Trouble:

hello christy!
adrian i was thinking of you when i pulled that disc. once upon a time you told me about a woman from asbury park who was singing in london. it wasn't her was it?
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:35am
Trouble:

true brian in uk, true
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BSI:

'mornin, troops.
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Sem Chumbo:

Love to see a platoon in the army of love marching to this beat.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Adrian in London:

No that was the lovely Nicole Atkins, who's just about to go out on tour with Eels. Check out her track The Way It Is for a huge 60s-style romantic emotional kaboom!
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pierre:

'Mornin Captain BSI !
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BSI:

Magic Pierre!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 9:50am
βrian:

Greetings from the snow-covered isthmus.
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Lonious Monk:

bonjour bonjour wfmu - good afternoon
  9:54am
Titus in GA:

TROUBLE!!!!!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:54am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, all. It's snowing lightly here.
  9:55am
Titus in GA:

how the blazes are ya Mrs. T!? hello to all the fellow Modern World comrades:)
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BSI:

ISTHMUS!
  9:59am
Mae:

Is that an isthmus, or are you just happy to see me?
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Sem Chumbo:

My isthmus is snow covered too
  10:01am
stu:

hei all! about 4 wet inches today here in Turku today ( like New Jersey snow ) how do people have images next to their names me wonders ?? cheers! beautiful sounds.
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Cecile:

Good morning, all.
I just listened to a TED talk for my latest class, and have decided I have a girl crush on Paula Scher.
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Cecile:

Stu - we got about three. Messy stuff.

You just set up a listener profile on WFMU and you get to put in an avatar, and favorite songs and everything.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:05am
βrian:

Myself, I couldn't afford an avatar, so I just used a little image.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07am
G:

GNFAB? Avatar Inflation
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:08am
βrian:

J'écoute les oiseaux. Ils me donnent des conseils.
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pierre:

@ Brian : your avatar is très bien comme ça.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08am
Cubicle Carl:

We should have a listener meet-up at Sing Sing.
  10:09am
MD:

I Can't beleive you did the "10" Joke"!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am
G:

All the little birdies on Jailbird Street
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Jennique:

I did spend about 9 months in Nyack, just down river from Sing Sing. Always wondered if a stranger would wash up in a striped outfit.
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Cecile:

we've got chickens! Right here in Jersey City!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:11am
βrian:

Jersey City is most definitely not Madison.
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dale:

your chickens should be grandfathered in.
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glenn:

do the chickens have to go for a road test before they get their licenses, or is it just a written test?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
Stevel:

"Live, from the Chicken Bunker! Cockadoodle and the Do's"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
G:

Chickens can get extremely insulted when you call them grandpa.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
Brian C.:

Trouble is going to stick it to the Chickenman!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:13am
stephaniepc:

I'm really curious about this chicken license/permit. Does it cost much money? I'm happy to be the proud caretaker of 4 in a part of the country where we are allowed 6 ladies.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:13am
Cubicle Carl:

@G That's not the right lyric. Is that what you've been humming to yourself for the last 40 years?
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:13am
βrian:

While they're away you should play a tape loop of their clucks and chortles.
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listener mark:

My neighborhood is populated with chickens, cows, and horses. They are all a rather nice bunch. They don't say much and are very good listeners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:14am
G:

No that's the joke I was making up to myself five minutes or so ago. Autogenic mondegreen. It was a cutesy childlike song, not a remake of Jailhouse Rock. :)
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Cecile:

I kept getting them mixed up with L'Trimm and wondered why I couldn't find "Cars That Go Boom" on any of their albums.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am
MD:

Gotta Love NJ!!! My wife and I moved here about 1 1/2 years ago... From Queens...and are now realizing it is the most "kick back" oriented State in this country...JUST PAY SOMEONE OFF...AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR CHICKENS...THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE HERE...!!!!
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sugarwolf:

poor chickens
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18am
G:

Tell the city to cluck off.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18am
Cubicle Carl:

I thought maybe it was one of those "bathroom on the right, kiss this guy" situations.
  10:19am
~L:

Did a neighbor complain about your chickens?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am
G:

Not a problem. I can do footnotes. :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am
dale:

i would think the expense and stress of moving them would be more than any fine for that tiny window of illegality. also thought you could have up to 8 or 10 without a permit.
Avatar 10:21am
listener mark:

Chickens eat the ticks and other bothersome insects. That alone makes them valuable members of the community.
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Jennique:

Just tape pointy ears and whiskers on them and call them cats.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22am
G:

@dale: Never underestimate the vastness and level of detail laws and regs can extend to in some jurisdictions!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:24am
Trouble:

MD:i did NOT do a 10" joke....i heard it as it came out and feared it would be looked at like that ick
  10:24am
hoofs:

good call on the Trop Tard, Trouble. ;)
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:25am
Trouble:

yes someone complained about the noise my 4 chix made....i have no idea what they are talking about. there is an occasional chortle but otherwise they are super quiet. urg.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27am
G:

that is *cold*. they ratted out your chickens.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27am
Mike East:

Some folks are just waiting for something to complain about
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am
G:

"Lives in Philosophy" by C.V.
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sugarwolf:

I love neighbors who complain to the authorities rather than the person they are having a minor issue with.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:30am
Trouble:

obrigado G!
  10:30am
hoofs:

I missed some of the chicken monologue. Who is regulating this? The FDA?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am
Cubicle Carl:

Didn't we hear Yo La Tengo in there, or was that just a flashback from yesterday?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am
G:

That's female "obrigada" (obliged) to you, trouble! -- Don't worry, though, Brasilians are happy if people have made a point of learning enough Ports. to get by with :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am
G:

Jersey City animal regs
  10:34am
Kayt:

Bom Dia Trouble. Mo- Ha na filo-zo-fia.
Jorge is 'stuck' in Rio right now with US Immigration Visa issues even though we are actually married now. He might be 'stuck' through carnaval, lucky dog.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am
MD:

Sorry for inferrng that...I am a child of the 70's and that supid joke/record...always played!!!! :-(
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:35am
βrian:

My neighbors chickens are usually pretty quiet – just soft clucks and such. But now and again one in particular has a session of existential lament that can last quite a while and rouse the neighborhood.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35am
G:

@MD: You dirty, dirty man j/k
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:35am
Trouble:

hey kayt! thanks for the help!
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Cecile:

actually, that song is from the 50s. Done by Bull Moose Jackson.
I have to give props to 'smith for a good, if raunchy cover.
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Cecile:

neighbors complain about dogs, though, too.
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Cecile:

They don't want you to have chickens!
Trouble, you have to get that procedure re-written for the good of all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am
MD:

When I was a bachelor in NYC...I raised Roaches!!! High in protein!!!
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Cecile:

I really liked Beyonce's number at the super bowl.
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Cecile:

Solange is really cool, though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:42am
G:

A few neighbors just *like* to complain. It makes them feel alive, and even powerful sometimes, in kind of a pointless way they don't seem to discern.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43am
dale:

i was just trying to find j.c. housing and building code online. the city has a pretty public relations type homepage but no code anywhere. my township has EVERYTHING online, permits, code, tax roles...
  10:43am
ratbone:

talk to annoyed neighbor explaining that if they dont shut tf up you will get the required license and 10 more chickens..
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Cecile:

thank you, G. That is very true.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:43am
βrian:

So I just discovered the Baltimore football team is no longer called the Colts.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:44am
βrian:

Jersey City code:
library.municode.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45am
G:

@Brian: The Colts moved to Indianapolis in 84. Good morning, Rip v. W. :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am
dale:

@brian - well there ya go!
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Cecile:

I'm just happy Ray Lewis is going to retire so I can stop hissing when he comes on TV.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am
G:

The former Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore in 96 and rebranded as the Ravens (for Poe). (Yes, I have family in Balt. or I wouldn't know these trivia bits)
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Jennique:

I can get you some mechanical ones that are a LOT noisier!
2.bp.blogspot.com...
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Cecile:

I know those trivia bits. I have no excuse.
And the old Baltimore Colts marching band got to re-form!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 10:50am
βrian:

I also discovered that the players for a given city's team are not necessarily from that city. That's downright mercenary.
  10:50am
ratbone:

jennique.. those eggs be itty bitty, eh?
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Cecile:

hahahahhahahahaaaaaaa

Well, I can at least take heart that sweet guy Michael Oher, from The Blind Side, got a ring, too. as well as ...................hissssssss.
  10:52am
v k:

Wooden Shjips - kudos Trouble, kudos
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Cecile:

RIP Cecil Womack (womack and womack) and Reg Presley!
www.spinner.com...
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Trouble:

bonjour jennique!
brian, dale: i talked to city hall and they gave me the online citations for the laws. chickens are legal in JC you just have to do the communicating with the different authority groups yourself, we are so DIY here in jersey
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am
Faye:

just postin' to say I've been seriously enjoying this show since it started at 9~! xoxoxoxo
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am
G:

@trouble: Sounds like it keeps the city employees employed! :)
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:54am
Trouble:

ello faye! xo
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G:

Gotta go face the likely line for a USPS parcel pickup :( bbl...
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Jennique:

Nobody beats da BIZ. Gonna hafta star this one.
  11:02am
peter:

Good Morning Trouble, from the west coast, where I loves me some Marsden Hartley!
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PKNY:

I missed the Biz, damn meetings!
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Lewis:

Tuesday mornings are so peaceful and calm. Work gets done and radio get heard. Ahhh....
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Joe B:

Loved that Contact cover!
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sugarwolf:

oh no my radio just switched to the christian channel!!
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Lewis:

(and I don't even think that it should be thursday any more!)
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:07am
Trouble:

helllooo peter! next time you are in the metro area you must go to the newark museum where they have some fab marsdens...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10am
dale:

90.1 signal just went blooey - just loud static
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sugarwolf:

yup, same here, dale
  11:13am
listener mark:

The 90.1 FM signal is getting washed out by WAMC!!
  11:15am
listener mark:

Signal is back.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:16am
Trouble:

thanks guys for the heads up! i alerted liz and she is on the case of the missing mfu
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:17am
Liz Berg:

We've got an engineer up at 90.1 who is working on fixing a problem today, so 90.1 and 91.9 FM may go in and out as they root around. Sorry for the outages!
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Chris from DC:

HK in the 60's. Nice.
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sugarwolf:

thanks for the update, liz!
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DCE:

hey folks...been listening awhile but I got brass in the office across from me today...trying to keep it on the dl.
  11:29am
The Brass:

Get your ass to work, minion.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:32am
Trouble:

www.facebook.com...
  11:33am
Minion:

Get your brass to work, goldbrick.
  11:33am
?:

Spoonful blues?
  11:34am
?:

don't you mean Boweevil Blues?
  11:40am
Greg:

nice set Trouble - btw, yr voice is excellent... tuning in from north,north norway.
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Windy City:

Another wonderful Tuesday. Thanks Trouble!
  11:44am
The Brass:

Oh Yeah? welllll.... whatevs.
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pierre:

padam…padam…
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:48am
Trouble:

thanks greg in north north norway! hope you are wearing a lovely handknit sweater while listening from that far up!
  11:48am
Michael Llewellyn:

Hello Trouble, Is there a podcast available of the show that you hosted on the evening of the 28th with the fellow from Boing Boing?
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:49am
Trouble:

isn't this the best version pierre?
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Jennique:

Piaf would love this song with a slow gin fizzzz...
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:50am
Trouble:

michael i do not know about that but i can ask around. write me: troubleatwfmudotorg and i can answer that later
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pierre:

it is Trouble, thanks for making me discovering it !
  11:52am
listener mark:

Thank you for a peaceful musical morning, Trouble. Good luck with the chickens.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:54am
Vivian:

Enjoyed this morning's show. Hope you attain a permit without much hassle.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:56am
Trouble:

thanks for all the good wishes, looking forward to it being done and life back to normal
  11:57am
?:

Chickens normally only make a noise after laying, then briefly. It's the rooster that makes the racket. Bok Bok.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:59am
Brian in UK:

Oops. that was me. Have you considered offering some eggs to the complainant?
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 12:00pm
Trouble:

i would if i knew who they were!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:26pm
G:

ask around discreetly a little in the block/neighborhood. it'll come out.

but now that the local govt has a written record on it, there is that issue to consider going forward...
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